Voice Discussion, Music, and a Slovakian Mountain Flute

hey i think i'm live hello hello hello hello i think i'm here welcome everybody we are doing another live stream i did a private uh oh here's the link oh let me okay so i'm gonna post a link around real quick um everybody on the server gets pinged live stream now okay i think we're good hello are people here can people hear me let me know if anybody can hear me i've got a fan running because it's super hot right now um but it should be good so i got that and then i also i'm doing something different today i got a laptop with me today so i can actually read people's comments like without having to like hunch over because you all know i'm like really like blind uh like legitimately like close to super bad vision so i'm gonna get this laptop here set up so i can also watch the stream on my end too hi everyone welcome erin welcome uh cat welcome amara welcome dev welcome uh miss barry or mr berry whoever you are welcome bella hello hi avey hi av uh hello uh it's good to be here with you all today how's everybody doing just to get us started while i get this pulled up over here hi tom hello everybody so we're going to do lots of exciting stuff today we're going to do q a like always we're going to do some voice stuff like always and i've got some exciting instruments to show you and i'm gonna play some music today so just so you all know uh i have a seven foot long fuyara it is a slovakian harmonic mother flute and i'll play it for you here in a moment um but first let me get everything all settled away uh i promise you've never seen an instrument like it before i think the closest thing to it's a didgeridoo but it's it's much um it mastered the voice control period oh thank you very much i appreciate that uh i love sound and so i spend a lot of time learning how to control sound let's see here um i gotta find my youtube channel on this laptop though because if i can read your comments here then i don't have to hunch over and i save myself a bunch of back pain and stuff you know how long are your live streams typically my live streams well that's a good question um my workshops that i do privately so on my patreon in case you guys don't know i have a patreon and i usually do workshops or live streams on my patreon for my workshops i usually go about three hours for my live streams on youtube i usually go anywhere between two to seven hours um my i mean during christmas i went seven hours i think last live stream on youtube it was three hours and then the time before that was about two and a half so i'm going to stream at least two hours right now and we're just getting started with that so let's see here okay so i've got myself here on my laptop isn't that weird a little meta okay and so i can read your comments much easier here i'm gonna blow the chat window up make it really big if i can do that on this computer and then i'll be able to sit over here by the computer or by the piano and play music for you all while i also get to read your wonderful comments which is really exciting now i'm going to go ahead and test some sound stuff so let me know if you can hear certain things or not okay oops hold on let me get that there so let me know quality wise how this is [Music] can you guys hear that fun do you do online classes yes i uh offer private lessons oh my god you're amazing holy i am so happy to see you live oh well thank you it's great to have you here i usually do live streams every month um some of them are private some of them are public you can hear the keyboard okay so that's like a input from the microphone tell me if you all think this is better piano quality i can also give you the piano signal via my headphones like this let me know if you think this sounds better oh god i keep dragging my microphone does that sound better oh no sound that way well that's bizarre okay so we won't do it that way for sure that's weird you guys totally should have heard that oh well terrible quality oh my god wait somebody has the hold on who has the youtube username heat from fire reveal yourself okay no worries you're good you should be able to hear it now [Music] you guys can hear it there who's got that username i can hear passionate beautiful clicking on the piano oh thank you what a blessed compliment i appreciate that uh oh my gosh that's so funny someone's got the heat from fire youtube name okay that's the first one i gotta like oh i gotta collect myself after that one okay i wasn't expecting that okay uh so let's see here yay you caught a stream yes oh wait it's like this chat actually is not that good wait i think it from fire okay there we go caught a stream okay perfect so i've got this here now do you guys want to see the coolest instrument you guys have never seen before i can promise you i have an instrument in store that you all have never seen before and actually it can teach you a lot about the way voice works because you know i'm always talking about harmonics i'm always talking about the harmonic series and i worship the harmonic series well today i have brought to you all the most profound and wonderful harmonic instrument in our universe okay so just you wait it is one of the most beautiful acoustic harmonic producing machines ever oh thank you thank you dom i really appreciate that that's very sweet okay so i'm gonna go get that actually before i get that i'm gonna wipe off some lipstick because i'm not trying to get lipstick all over my elderberry uh my elderberry fipple okay hold on one second okay okay okay okay okay hold on hold on here we go hold up hold on okay hold up so look at this hold on it's literally bigger than me it's gigantic it is such a gigantic instrument it almost touches the ceiling isn't this cool [Music] uh let me get here we go oh it's so lovely oh hold on hold on there we go i have to get right position [Music] you're playing a tree yes yes this is actually a single piece of elder wood it was created by uh jakob soray in slovakia he built this for me uh it is and it is completely elderberry uh and it sounds incredible now i will say i'm supposed to have a cork pad in the top of this but i was playing one day and i blew the cork pad out and i'm legally blind and when the cork pad fell on my floor i'm not able to see it i don't have the vision required to find a small piece of brown cork on my floor so instead i'm using tape which means the sound isn't as good as it would be if i corked it but it is still very beautiful i'll try and play some scales for you so look at that okay hold on i'm hitting my ceiling so the finger holes the finger holes are huge look at how look how big a part these are so you have to like cover with one hand and then you have to have the other hand open so i've been practicing this instrument and it can do like some really amazing no it's not a proto bassoon um bassoon comes from a much different family a bassoon is a double reed instrument and this actually has no read this is much closer to like different flutes from bulgaria slovakia that area there this is actually a mountain hurting flute so old slovakian goat herders or whatever they would basically stand on mountains and like play this instrument so whenever i play it i feel that way [Music] [Music] um [Music] oh that was lovely so you can actually can you show the spectrum whoever asked to see the spectrogram you are welcome here yes hold on let me pull up the spectrogram of this instrument see that's why i love my supporters you're all so cool you guys are asking me to show you the spectrogram on a slovakian goat hurting mother flute where else in the world do we do that okay so let me just go ahead and step that up real fast hold on i will give you a spectrogram view of this oh my gosh this instrument's incredible ooh that's loud okay that's really loud so this instrument is profoundly amazing and super super incredible and wonderful oh oh oh oh oh oh i know what i gotta do hold on let me fix one thing real fast then you guys allow better audio quality i found i found the error of my ways okay now you've got good stuff so let me know if you guys can hear me hold on one second let me know if you guys can hear me trailing off into infinity [Music] [Music] yeah it's reaper okay so let me turn that off you guys want to see the spectrogram you'll hear double with me so let me mute that real fast now let me pull up the spectrum you know the amazing thing about this so i've been getting into different uh different flutes so i'll pull out a different flute in a second i've also been trying to learn the bulgarian cavall i am making a song with this actually the beautiful that's what i was about to say actually one of my favorite things about this entire instrument is the fact that you can play micro tonal with it since it's an acoustic wind instrument that depends on like column length if i have if i half block a hole like if i have key you actually go like up a quarter tone or like up a of an eighth tone you can actually get really really really nuanced micro tonal motion by like half plugging and like you can get amazing vibrato with like emission changes really really awesome stuff okay so i've got this spectrogram here for you and so you'll all get to see how it's just a beautiful harmonic nest let's see here let me get the 2d spectrogram because 2d 2d is easier to read i know that 3d spectrums are cool but the 2d spectrograms really actually show you it more here we go hold on okay uh so unfortunately the way i'm sharing it i won't be able to give you oops i won't be able to give you like i can't why can't i move that um weird anyways let's take a look [Music] so the actual fundamental the actual fundamental frequency of this instrument is really really low i can only play it for you if i play like this if i play super super calm like this it's actually hard to get the fundamental out so what you actually end up hearing i'm starting on like the fourth to fifth harmonic so like this right here that's the second harmonic to the third harmonic [Music] so there's two three [Music] there's the two three four that was like the 13th harmonic or the 17th harmonic one of those [Music] is this not the coolest instrument you've ever seen like like be real hello everyone hold on let me read i think that was the fourth harmonic yeah it can get all the way up to the thing is the higher up the harmonic because it is polyphonic singing [Music] it's polyphonic scene that starts on the second harmonic so you start on like oh i was gonna show my spectrogram my bad hold on here we go oops i had some diplophonia [Music] it is that basically that [Music] and you can get all sorts of micro tonal stuff that's one of my most fascinating things about it and remember for those of you who are just joining us this is a seven foot long flute look at this thing hold on wait oh this thing is huge it's called a fuyara okay let me take a look back over here at my computer screen oh gosh 110 people that's great it's great to have you all here with you how's everyone doing today uh somebody a demon no i'm summoning my goats i'm on the mountain is there any instrument you can't play no because music is uh music behaves the same regardless of what instrument you're playing so if you understand music and you understand like the way sound works you can really play any instrument in fact an example of that i'll i'll pull out a bulgarian flute i've been playing a bulgarian flute lately i've been practicing for three or four days it's called the cavall and it's notoriously a very hard instrument to make sound on some beginners can take up to a month oops some beginners can take up to a month to try and learn how to make sound on the cavall i figured out how to make sound in about 36 hours but that was just because i know how sound works right so like i'd sit there and i'd like try and figure out how am i actually supposed to make sound no what is not fujara fuyara what does fuyara mean angel i don't mind um i don't mind you telling us i would love to be educated let's see here throat seeing so cool i agree uh that's more flute than i am person yeah me too i'm five six five five so this thing towers over me by like nearly two feet it's like a foot and a half dollar to me uh doing good how to voice therapy session good i hope it went well fellow transform composer here thanks for being awesome welcome fellow composer i was just showing off this fuyara check it out [Music] uh [Music] oh it's really hard to continue so like okay so there's three finger holes so you basically get like three other fundamentals you know but it's so hard to like stay on the harmonic level you are like imagine so imagine you're on the third harmonic of your original fundamental you have to really change your breath pressure as you change the fundamentals so like if i press down a hole i have to change my pressure in order to stay on the third harmonic of that new fundamental and so that's like where a lot of the nuance of playing this instrument comes from i'm finding is that like in order to create linear motion or scale or motion or melodic stepwise motion you have to learn how to manipulate the pressure you're putting into the instrument manipulate your embouchure and the way that you're actually sealing up the holes because you can actually have like listen to this you can actually half fret or like half hole right that's like a quarter tone it's actually you can get less than a quarter tone on this like watch that's like a 15 cent difference it almost sounds like a syntonic comma so um oh very good do you know the leaf flute uh you mean like playing a leaf like a blade of grass or a leaf or whatever i've done that before yeah that's actually a great way to teach people how uh the voice creates pitch because it creates pitch in a rather similar way as a harmonic witch this is my harmonic staff you know this is my harmonic battle staff so i've got a i've got a cloak back there you know um and so you know sometimes i just walk around with my cloak and my harmonic staff and i feel like a harmonic witch a conduit of this universe uh let's see here fiara's had spelling polish for a certain slang word oh okay i think i know what it means angel that's what i guessed too when i first heard it see ya you've evolved so much i'm starting to work on my voice again your content is so helpful thank you alina it was so wonderful working with you on our lessons and you did such a great job yes i too feel i have progressed quite a lot and evolved quite a lot in the last uh gosh was last time i worked together about a year ago i mean i've constantly i'll never stop evolving a bard yes you're way too excited about this micro tonal stuff yes me too i've been doing uh i don't know if you know this carmen but i do lots and lots of micro tonal stuff i'm actually working on a micro tonal treatise right now particularly a music theory treatise of just intonation i have my own just intonation system and theory that started to catch on a lot around the micro tonal world and i'm codifying it and i'm currently working on my text and treatise for that right now it's taking me a bit longer than i'd like because i'm putting so much time into my voice content but then again you know um drutus isn't a female druid adrudus i'm pretty sure uh do you have a harmonic cauldron where you brew harmonic potions yes i do that's called my lyra8 it is a metal cauldron actually actually actually actually hold on one second one second hold on somebody asked about my harmonic cauldron this this is my harmonic cauldron okay so if that's my harmonic grand staff and i'm a harmonic witch that's my harmonic cauldron i'll show you why one second okay okay all right here we are here we are here we are here we are i need a baseball for this which i don't have on me right now let me also oh i just spilled water all over myself did you guys see that on camera i'm soaked my bad whoops it was worth it though that's why we did it hold on let me get uh this is my harmonic cauldron the beauty of acoustics basically as i pour water in there and move the water around it changes the way the sound this interacts with the the space [Music] so that's my hormone god damn how come you guys let me soak myself how did you how are you guys okay with me doing that am i just here for your amusement i swear ah okay ever thought about getting a hang drum yes that's on my plate eventually i'm gonna get the lumatone next that's my next instrument because i need that beautiful micro tonal interface i need the lumatone um i'm and then after that so i'm going to get the lumatone that's expensive i'm not going to buy instruments for a while but you guys ready for this i'm going gonna buy like a 1969 roads i'm gonna get a mark ii and it's gonna be so beautiful and so wonderful and i'm just gonna sit in my room and play acoustic roads all day long i've never actually played an acoustic well i played in acoustic roads once but the rhodes is like one of my favorite sounds ever and i would love to capture like actual acoustic rhodes sounds so isn't the water basically the modulator yeah now that machine the thing i was just tapping that's technically not harmonic that's a periodic so when i tap the metal like this there's no periodicity really going on that's stable so instead what you get is a chaotic sort of all the pieces are going to be moving independently i can generate harmonics by bowing though so when i bow the metal and i bring out i need a bigger bow this is not the right bow to use for this i have to go to a different room to grab my other bow but those would be harmonics if i bow those so oh oh how lovely okay oh gosh so let me read let me read these comments there's all kinds of lovely comments someone likes bt oh bt's cool yeah i had a big bt phase in like 2009 so i'm about i'm about 11 years late for bt fandom but i definitely was influenced by this binary universe definitely influenced by these hopeful machines definitely influenced by his original stuff too but this binary machines i think is still like the pinnacle work that i like from him uh and i was definitely influenced by the animations plus the music in fact i was making animations before that but that really made me like okay i want to combine animations with like all of my music you know so uh let's see here you're adorable thank you much appreciated please song something in this chord progression four five uh okay oh six uh six five four sure i can do that for you six five four [Music] so there you go there's a little bit of 654 for you yeah no worries i'm glad you all like that i'll play a little bit more piano for you so when i play piano obviously uh oh good to see you're putting our patron money to good use yes in fact i'm redirecting some of the patreon money to actual people of the community who are going to create community events my number one goal with everything that is given to me on patreon is to put it back into the community whether it's through what i'm doing with my videos that i'm making that's why the quality of my videos has increased so much lately uh whether it's with the community members that are in the community and building things and stuff like that you know um whatever it is i'm constantly focused on how can i produce better resources for all of you that's like my number one priority above uh all else well you know i have my private my private lessons and those are my number one priority but my youtube thing's like a side job if you will you know um what's your favorite chord progression um it can't really be expressed in 12 note equal temperament in terms of in terms of 12 tone functional harmony i really like chromatic mediants like this or like um or like this [Music] oh here's a good chord progression [Music] so [Music] i like all kinds of corporations that's like that like typical like j-pop you know like kawaii i don't uh poison samurai what mike what micro tonal temperament do you like best well i don't like temperament at all because temperament is non-harmonic inherently temperament implies that you're using irrational values to derive a tuning i actually mostly work in pure harmonic series tunings uh i have my own justin's nation theory that i use to create all my scales so i actually don't play in temperaments now if i had to talk about some of my favorite linear temperaments i would say that i like uh i like 34 equal to or 34 notes equal so 34 edo um i like i like 29 edo i like 31 honestly 29 31 and 34 are really good i like 41 those are the only linear temperaments i like and then i actually like to take those linear temperament models and then i like to actually tune them via harmonic series segments so like uh yeah i have um there's a lot of that about that on my server that i've been doing and stuff so i i like to take models of temperaments or models of structures and then just intonate them and keep them near equal so i've kind of created this thing called neji so instead of like you know like edo it's like near equal just intonation so i really love 34 notes in near equal just intonation so i find a segment of the harmonic series that's not too high up not too low down that basically allows you to approximate the behavior and distribution of notes that 34 edo has but instead it gives it to you in fully harmonic locked in tuning so that is actually what i prefer in terms of my tunings um but i've i've made music in all sorts of tunings i had a road and let it go another bad decision oh larry larson hello space member yes uh yes i hope you're doing good in the off world your comment on pandelia always makes me laugh by the way i love that comment uh why'd you let your roads go just kind of need to get rid of it um but yeah i'd never let mine go once i get it i've actually never let an instrument go so i'm like a instrument hoarder uh do you have any uh poison samurai yeah so um on my on my uh server patreon server there's a section on there about micro tonality and music theory you could find stuff there otherwise if you message me on a platform or something i can give you the tuning files for it i have the dot tunes available i'm not trying to pay all that information but that's just where i have it posted right now um but no i'm actually like i said i'm working on a treatise uh i've been working on it for a while and amazingly it's it's really starting to influence a lot of different micro tonalists i've already seen a lot of my contemporaries start to shift towards these nudgy tunings like harmonic series rooted scales and so i really really like it quite a lot um and it makes for me what it does it kind of makes the music glow more it lets you have the same ideas and the same near transposition ability that you so the beautiful thing about linear temperaments or i should say edo's is that you get basically uh you get basically transpositionality right you get genuine uh transpositionality and all your keys are the same and that's cool and everything but i kind of accept not being oh yeah hey while i'm doing that let me post my patreon if any of you guys want to support me or support what's happening on this channel all the awesome content that i've been putting out feel free to join my patreon my patreon um i have a private server that's pretty poppin uh and then also you know i think it's even for one dollar a month you get access to like all my workshops and stuff so you know i'm giving workshops three hour long workshops and all these different things and so i believe you can get all that uh just for a dollar could be wrong three dollars i forget what it's set as but um i'm gonna make it a dollar i think uh so let's see here so if you guys want to contribute to that um that just goes straight back into the community okay let's see here plus one to the synthesis question wait what is this in this question hold on let me see trans women are all the same they have this crazy thing that blows someone's mind that you'd never expect i know it actually blows my mind i totally agree with you i've worked with hundreds and hundreds of trans women at this point on voice feminization and it literally never ceases to amaze me um how brilliant trans women are or just trans people in general or just gender non-conforming people you don't have to be a woman or whatever just jitter non-conforming people have this like thing i don't know let's see um those are all lowercase should have a minor oh let me read oh should have been minor oh i see ha ha good one okay uh dude what's your favorite by the way contact is a mark one vst yeah i mean i've got a few mark one v i've got a few actually if i'm gonna do roads i use keyscape so i've got um that's what i run my let's see here here's an la custom suitcase roads [Music] a little bit too much wash on that i don't like that tone i usually use this one that one's a little too i don't get to hear it you know what i mean it's too covered i don't like that too much phase on that let me go here turn that off too much reverb hold on there we go this is the one i usually like [Music] [Music] oh i'll show you some of those micro tonal scales i've been playing in two or wait hold on hold on i need to get back to questions i don't need to get carried away with that yeah i'll play more music here in a second uh oh chromatic mediums are awesome yes i love chromatic mediums especially doubly chromatic mediums what's this micro total thing okay got that 34's great train women are awesome yes trans women are awesome we we are based okay let's see uh what is your favorite type of synthesis that's a good question i mean i'm gonna have to go with reductive synthesis right or uh because i mean our our voice is a reductive synthesizer so as a voice scientist and as a voice educator if i didn't say my favorite form of synthesis was reductive synthesis then i would probably be selling out my i'd be selling out my people no um i really like i mean if i'm if i'm being serious i really like wave table synthesis i reach for wave table synthesis more often than not just because it lets me i like to start with really complex convoluted wave tables and then i like to do fm synthesis with those and that allows me to get these really complex evolving bases and and evolving textures and stuff like that here i'll show you some so i'm making a new piece uh so you guys are going to get a sneak peek on this you guys are the first ones publicly to hear this i posted it on a few servers and stuff but i'm i'm currently 24 minutes in to a piece of music 24 minutes in um it's almost finished it is a micro tonal piece it's in 29 near equal just intonation a scale that i created in particular it is in um it's a 29 tone scale built out of the intersections between the 19th and 11th harmonic families so you end up with like some novum decimal colors you end up with some undecimal colors and then you end up with the sort of lovely sort of near equality that we get from 12 29 tone and you know the beautiful thing i find about 29 tone is that the the smallest step the deises it's like 41 cents or 42 cents in the negi it can go anywhere between 38 all the way up to 44. but in that little range there of cents like 38 to 44 not 38 but let's say 41 to 44 cents it has this very corrosive rusty quality that to me stands out like for like 31 when i put it d assist in 31 it like causes the whole sound to shimmer and then when i put like a dss in 29 it causes the whole thing to corrode i don't know how else to describe it um but check this out here's a sneak peek there's a piece i'm writing 29 nedgie uh it's 24 minutes long i'll give you guys oh hold on i'll give you guys some samples of this yeah i can talk about safe training i'll talk about that while i'm getting this set up and i'll play you guys my music here in a second safe training honestly it's hard to injure your voice unless you do like one of two things one you don't listen to what your body says and two you constrict a lot as you go higher up in pitch we want to release any constriction any irritation any scratchiness any rubbingness any friction feelings a voice summarization never has a feeling of friction ever it never has a feeling of chafing or irritating or inflaming so if you sense a burning sensation anything like that stop what you're doing you know it's just not worth it a lot of people what happens is when they try to raise their resonance they end up constricting their false folds or they end up constricting their actual true vocal folds and what this does it puts the voice under a lot more friction than it needs to be and if we're also going to higher pitches because we're trying to feminize the voice high pitches plus lots of friction is a wonderful recipe to damage your instrument right because what you're doing is you're just sitting there rubbing the mucosal structures imagine if you took your hands and you just rub them against each other over and over and over for two hours you'd eventually be raw your vocal folds are no different like that as well right so um yeah yeah well i put it on ultra low latency cosmo because i like to be as connected as possible with the audience while i'm streaming and stuff favorite anime let's get political um favorite anime i don't really watch anime i'm not a weeb but i don't i don't hate weebs i i respect the weave thing i've watched a lot of animes though um you know this is going to sound so bad i think one of my favorite animes is yuyu hakusho and and i don't want people to bully me i'm thinking i like tr i like tri-gun you know i like those classic ones that were like on adult swim and stuff i watched all those and then i did watch some other ones that weren't on adult swim and stuff uh guren logan um i've wanted to watch hunter x hunter like everybody tells me i need to watch hunter x hunter i just haven't watched it because the beginning is like really boring um but then yuyu hakusho was the last anime that i watched from start to finish again and i was like god it's so good the last saga or the last part of you hakusho the last arc the demon arc oh my god it's literally incredible and they just keep powering up and going further and further and further than you thought they could go i love that kind of stuff uh let's see here um what's my favorite video game my favorite video game of all time is starcraft brood war my second favorite video game of all time is probably diablo 2. my third favorite video game of all time is probably halo 2 and my fourth is probably super smash brothers melee do you guys want me to play uh you guys want me to play net play super smash brothers melee i can show you guys my skill later if you guys want to watch if you guys are into like a twitch stream i could turn it into that here in a little bit um but i've been grinding melee for a while um let's see here let's see um yeah that's my favorite type of synthesis that's where i was in the questions strongly to make my voice sound cis i'm doing what you're saying but it doesn't sound quite right well that's incredibly vague because the voice has so many parameters you could be doing tons of things wrong um you know i a lot of people get the idea that like the exercises i give on my youtubes you're just supposed to do them over and over and over and over and over and it's supposed to make you sound female but exercises actually aren't where you get skill from exercises are environments they are spaces they are conditional locations or conditional places that you enter and then the conditions of that exercise are supposed to evoke lower probability outputs from you and then you're supposed to reflect on those lower probability outputs and try to gain control over it okay so um it's totally possible that you do all my exercise over and over and you know you don't sound good because there's so many things that could happen that could stop you i'm just going to say that if you've done this stuff on my youtube channel and you don't sound very good probably falsehood constriction that's creeping up to be the most common issue that people have um or you drop your resonance um or also the um uh for me otto kite kutten um for me otto the reason why i like melee so much is because i love games that are extremely fast precise inputs i like piano i like jamming i like i like things that are mechanically extremely precise but also have a degree of cerebral battle to them that's actually why i like starcraft brood war so much because starcraft brood war is like you're playing chess and you're playing piano simultaneously you know and it's like one a two a three a four a five a i want to see one st one and c one and three you know like um so yeah i played i played terran for about 19 years and in the last two years or so i've switched to zerg so i'm trying to learn how to play zerg and brood war and zerg is super super demanding because of the way you have to hockey the hatcheries and the way you have to move around it's just a lot how do you remain consistent with voice lots of consistent practice i don't put any effort into what i'm talking right now i'm just simply speaking to you this is my behavioral normalized voice there was something else that someone asked um there's a question that was so good what was it oh about not sounding right let me get back to that so when you're doing a voice exercise i don't want you to think about the voice exercise as being the thing that's supposed to do the work for you you know exercises aren't these things that you just go through the motions of and then you automatically sound good like i said exercises are a conditional environment that you enter think of it this way imagine if you have to read a book or work on a paper for those of you who have had to write essays in college or high school or middle school or whatever at school for those of you who have to write essays would you agree that it's harder to write an essay in your like place so if i'm here right in front of my computer i've got my monitors it's harder to write the essay but if i go to the library it's easier to write the essay that's not the library making the essay like easier per se it's the library providing a conditional environment that evokes lower probability outputs of me because behavior is fundamentally about an interaction of an organism responding to stimuli so exercises are there to create conditional environments with certain stimuli to get you to do things that you don't know how to do otherwise right and then once you're doing the exercise and you're going and you're experiencing that conditional environment it's up to you to observe what's occurring and if you end up you know you first gain observation and awareness and then you try to build that awareness into control okay so exercises are spaces you enter these spaces they have conditions they make you do things you normally wouldn't do and then as you're doing things you normally wouldn't do you then try to process it and understand what you're doing and that's how you gain awareness and then that's ultimately how you gain control which is ultimately how you gain skill yes exactly khloe exercise are like a catalyst to train a new habit it is exactly like that um you know so i think a lot of people get in the wrong sense perspective if you just watch my videos on youtube and we haven't really talked privately or whatever uh you talk fast i'm sorry i'll slow it down a little bit uh so if you have watched my youtube videos um you know don't think don't think so linearly okay voice and the acquisition of any new skill is fundamentally non-linear right like you'll have moments where you gain this tiny piece of information that explodes your growth and you have a totally new thing occurring right those things are lovely those things are lovely but that's non-linearity you know you can in one second you could have a month of growth but you could also spend 30 minutes and basically get no growth you know you're reviving you normally watch my youtube videos at 1.75 i pretty much watch all youtube videos at 1.5 x unless they're like musical you know uh let's see here currently let me see what everyone says i love how technical knowledge is well let me see here thank you all so much there's so many questions definitely a starcraft type agree would you say it's not just mechanics it's also art yes voices mechanics voice is art and voice is internal okay um that's actually why my book is the art of voice feminization i don't think it's as mechanical like we can dissect it mechanically we can dissect it through a linear model the source filter model is a linear model but voice and the way the voice behaves internally is fundamentally non-linear so yeah it's mechanical and yes we can predict and model and i can go in with by hand i can create things that sound like voices through the linear models but those are simply models right they don't necessarily take on um they don't necessarily factor in all of the complex non-linear variables that come into it i'm really excited about sound of course i'm really excited about sound i worship sound it's my thing it's um it's everything to me i don't know uh it's fundamental backbone of my existence let's see here uh how do i get one-on-one lessons for you with voice training email transvoicelessons gmail.com look i'll just be frank with everybody i've got a waiting list of like 1300 people right now it's not like a waiting list it's a pool and when i book i ping it you know we we go through and we find people and stuff it's so i'm trying to hire a new t i'm hiring a new teacher i'm training someone right now um and we're about to start so that'll increase my availability but they're only going to be able to take on like 60 or 70 new students right and i've got like i've got like 1 300 people waiting oh did my stream go down stream down hello stream down oh no we're good we're back okay cool but yeah i mean i've got you know i've got over a thousand people wanting to work with me right now in a pool so if you want to work with me send me an email you won't be lost you won't be forgotten but just be aware that um just be aware i have a huge huge huge huge wait list okay um i'm trying to do as best as i can to try and cut that list down but it's just so massive it's impossible basically i could teach for the next five years straight teaching maximum capacity five to six students a day and i still wouldn't work through my wait list um you may have an excellent understand the human voice but you don't have the ability to communicate that knowledge to average person i actually completely disagree with you what i'm talking right now i'm not teaching i'm not your teacher right now you know i'm streaming i'm in a different environment when i'm teaching i'm a completely different person completely different environment i work with children i work with people all across the age spectrum all across nationalities all across different languages um i can adapt and commit and change how i'm speaking to my students in any situation that's a fundamental thing about being a teacher but right now i'm not trying to pretend i'm not trying to put on a show you know i'm i'm hanging out so i'm not going to alter my behavior in any way to fit other people here you know what i'm saying i'm just chatting about voice the way i see it let's see here um you shouldn't be telling people to do your exercise if they aren't going to work that's not how it works i'm not a f you're plus your tubes don't go far enough i think you want f wow okay concerned american like i already said the exercises do work but the thing is you can't rely on them linearly uh and i'm just gonna block you from my channel because you're a troll let's see here oh put user in time out okay so there's that uh let's see here okay there we go is it odd have problems with pitch or also if you can't practice one hour a day i would just start with the patreon content sure see uh concerned american who said i'm just trying to sell my stuff sell my stuff i've got 1300 people waiting this stream is not making me any more money i can't see any more students than i already have you know so get troll bashed okay let's see here um let's see okay okay okay free enterprise is funny uh let's see here um i'm gonna add one more to that list after my final example sound technology i'll start trying to project my voice oh you're a sound technician that's awesome i've noticed that my environment affects my voice a lot even non-physical ones exactly exactly exactly so what you're talking about there jp fanboy is what's called code switching okay so code switching is basically what we do all the time we talk to different people if you talk to somebody if you talk to a kitten you talk to that person much different than you would talk to like um you know your father you talk to someone different than you talk to a doctor etc etc so different environments essentially evoke different outputs from us and we can actually manipulate those code switching environments if you're finding that you have a code switched environment that actually makes it so that you can't use your voice right what that means is you need to practice in that environment or you need to imagine that environment when you practice so like if you have trouble talking to like your group of friends and your voice keeps going masculine then what you can do is you can just imagine your group of friends in your head when you're speaking and you will start to train that behavior in that environment behaviors never exist in a vacuum they are always at the sort of emergent influence of other behavioral factors or other environmental factors that cue in on that okay um i think she did mention wanting to do group lessons yes i'll be starting group lessons soon it's really hard see have you thought about cheaper sessions for multiple people yes exactly i want to do group lessons um and i have i'm going to be doing webinars eventually that'll be open population so up to 256 people it'll be the same thing i teach in lessons but it'll just be less personalized you know um oh thank you jacob i appreciate that i let's see here capitalist support free enterprise but well i i would say i'm sort of a hesitant capitalist you know i we live in a capitalist system so i have to behave in that system otherwise i'll die but otherwise you know i try to give everything away for free i've been giving my music away for free for over 12 years now you can literally get all of my music for free on my bandcamp and it will always be free let's see here is there a difference in training voice depending on the language yes there is um certain languages have behaviors that are more or less easier easy to masculinize or feminize uh it just depends uh that's super helpful device interesting visualization usually for different languages it requires me to go in their language so i was working with a student yesterday i forget what language it was um a language i'm not too familiar with it was pretty pretty remote language not a lot of speakers and so um what i was finding is that there was a fundamental behavior that they were missing in the way that i would give back to them you know the sound i would give them the sound and they would interpret it differently and so i started learning their language and i started learning their vowels and we started learning and doing it in their language um will you eventually think about making trans voice singing youtube video oh yeah i actually made a trans voice singing youtube video a year and a half ago but i removed it from my channel because i was really dysphoric about how or no two years ago two years ago three years ago two and a half years ago but i removed it from my channel because i really didn't like how i looked um so yeah here's the thing i have only made like five percent of the youtube comment content i plan to make you know um so when people are like oh you'll be awesome if you have this video i will take all those suggestions and i put them on a list and i'm planning on doing that but youtube videos take a really long time and i work full-time teaching voice um i basically wake up in the morning start teaching at 11 30 teach until like 6 45 at night then i do like patron feedback stuff then i make music and so uh it's hard for me to to really um you know do as much content as i want with with stuff so that's what the patreon helps for it and incentivize that she has a long waiting list yes i'm sorry about my long waiting list i can't do anything about it um i'm going to try and give webinars i'm going to try and give group lessons i just hired a new teacher that um we're going to start working together in september so you know um it's one of those things let's see here um wait she asked me last time to write her so where i needed to draw the cast so i asked what she i was saying i don't know what you mean by that uh kate if you were emailing me you weren't talking to me you were talking to kylie i don't do my emails unless they're about specific questions from me or whatever i have a full-time assistant who takes care of all my scheduling and takes care of all my emails stuff i i can't do my emails i did my emails for three and a half years and it got to the point where it was taking up hours of my day and i was already teaching hours a day and it was hurting my content production so turned that stuff off uh let's see uh let's see here um love the moody lighting thank you is there a difference between voice running i already got that question might be different question but you find it hard working with different accents different accents can pose challenges but sometimes it not really um the person sort of template as a thinker makes a much bigger role than the language that they're speaking i get no reply which is des moines because i'm trying to pay you money i understand that like i said i don't handle the payment stuff i have an assist that handles that i'm incredibly swamped i get i get about 50 messages a day from new people wanting to join my waiting list i already have a pool of about 1300 i'm really sorry i'm doing everything i can i have a full-time assistant she's doing everything she can i just hired a new teacher they're doing everything they can you know it's just one of those things um i can't help it there's just too many people that want to work with me so i'll do my best for everybody let's see here uh what do you think so is r1 the same as the example no r1 is not the same as adam's apple r1 is a meta variable that expresses the dimension it expresses the resonant frequency of your throat okay or i should say of your pharynx and essentially there are lots of things that change that things that change r1 are raising your larynx changing your inferior pharyngeal constrictors down here changing the oropharyngeal constriction changing your nasopharynx shape using the palato fair and gs to lower the nasopharynx even more after it's sealed also tongue dorsan behavior changes the r1 tongue root behavior changes the r1 epiglottal things changes the r1 at the laryngeal things changes the r1 r1 is a meta variable that expresses in a numerical value of resonance things that are going on back there there are numerous things that go on back there and when you mimic my exercises trying to learn r1 you're mimicking a certain sequence of behaviors okay and that sequence of behaviors um is what we're trying to teach people and so what often happens when people try to learn r1 if it's wrong or right or whatever essentially what happens is that uh if people are wrong with r1 that usually means they learn the sequence wrong or they're over relying on one part of the sequence or they're moving in the wrong direction with the sequence there are a tremendous amount of different things that you can do with r1 and we're trying to learn a very specific sequence of movements okay have you had facial feminization yes it did have facial feminization without disclosing anything how many of your clientele are looking for something other than voice feminization um well the ones that actually book lessons with me probably four percent three percent um just because i have so many voice feminization students here's the thing and tom winspear is in chat so tom winspear can tom winspear can post um all my theory students they got pushed out i actually had a pretty bustling music theory studio i had a lot of music theory students but they all got pushed out by the demand of my transvoice students because you know i'm in such demand with trans voice that raises my rates since i'm you know supply and demand i'm only one person and so my uh voice theory students or my music theory students they kind of got pushed out on accident which is really really sad um unfortunately so the science about voice foundation is easier to understand definitely don't get lost in the science though obviously application and action is the priority but science absolutely gives us a model and it allows us to think even deeper and go meta and invent new ideas that we can't do with our own body uh if she ain't off the addi she wild i don't take adderall i don't take stimulants if i take stimulants they make me sleepy so like i don't drink coffee i don't do caffeine this is just my vibe you know what i mean so i'm like always on this vibe let's see here um i'm gonna leave for work thank you for your videos thank you thank you so much it was great having you here who's your favorite musician or writer uh not sure favorite musician bill evans bill evans have you done anything with modular synthesis not as much as i want i really want to get the pulsar 23 from soma labs because that's like a semi-modular kind of like thing and i kind of want to use that and then then integrate it into modular stuff more outward let's see here you had no idea you're hustling so much oh yeah for sure this is my full-time career i'm working on a book i've got you know 515 patrons i've got 1300 people waiting i've got a new teacher coming on assistant yeah this is my job um and it works pretty good so far i'm getting better every day i've been teaching full-time for about four years now three and a half years or so would you say that you teach children do you mean children to enter puberty or is anything related yeah so i mean i teach children who have entered puberty um usually that usually the children that i teach are children who have been exposed to testosterone for about a year or two then they got on blockers and their voice already dropped but yet they're like you know basically blocking their testosterone already and in those cases they already have a masculinized voice and somewhat some ways um i have worked with pre-pubescent children but typically those are like um typically those are like f to m prepubescent people who want to like change their voice and sound more boyish because there's a very faint difference before puberty starts that we can get um but typically pre-pubescent students not so much usually right after puberty starts is where my children are at in terms of education um let's see here i had to quit the addies i've never ta i don't i not my thing this puts me to sleep if i drink coffee i get sick in fact all my patrons can account for this last year over a year ago i took i took a i drank coffee for like the first time and i was literally sick for a whole day i was in the bathtub gagging and puking and i literally had to just it put me out so i'll never ever ever ever ever drink caffeine again ever it's disgusting uh bill evans awesome he is incredible there's also free software that's modular that's great so stoked for your treatise thank you very much i'm really excited about the treatise too it's taking me longer than i would have liked i was originally trying to release it in march but then i started making a ton of trans voice content for my youtube so uh that's taking the precedence over it you're like so you're a jazz musician you like cool yes i'm a jazz musician um that's kind of where my roots are well my roots are in progressive metal and then i went from progressive metal into electronic music and then i went from electronic music into classical music and then i sort of surveyed the whole you know thousand-year history of western classical music then i got into ethnomusicology and studied music of different cultures i went over to thailand and i i stayed in thailand for a while and studied thai classical music and i learned to perform the thai classical style and then i came you know back over here and then i studied jazz um i've been studying jazz for that whole time though so no falsetto doesn't hurt the voice oh jillian i saw your question i'm gonna get back to you via dm so you have a very specific question i heard i listen to the file i'll give you some suggestions on that a little bit later i wanted to get to that yesterday but my stomach was hurting me really bad um so i'll get to that a little bit later and i'll save that for offstream because it's kind of a very specialized thing you're dealing with let's see have you tried outputs portals plugins no bill evans is amazing though uh let's see here jazz musician yes is this the name and they say razor vibration uh funny uh thank you and i appreciate the various feedback and you're wonderful i appreciate that um good you should look into the moog dfam semi-modular oh yeah yeah yeah uh is that like the not the grandmother or the what's steve isn't the d fam like the the grandmother above that or whatever it's like the matriarch is that i was talking about that sounds good an fm and singing modular that sounds really cool have you considered putting your music on spotify i put one song on spotify last week i put sola on there so you can check it um is falsetto hurting the voice no falsetto doesn't hurt the voice but constricting can hurt the voice and if you're constricting in falsetto then you can hurt the voice prog metal any particular favorites the contortionist um the contortionist let's see i've been wanting to make a voice focused mod uh make a voice focus modsense software by the way kinda like what you do in your lessons but with the dawn more streamlined oh definitely i'll definitely give you some suggestions for that what are your favorite programmatic bands uh it's been a while since i listened to prague what's the cost for voice lessons please email transvoicelessons.gmail.com for that my costs depend on how how many lessons you decide to work with me on and the demand so you're an angel thank you very much with you leading the way in voice feminization science how do you feel about other teachers teaching your theory i think that's wonderful i train other teachers i have a lot of teachers who subscribe to my patreon and they learn from me through that way i my goal is to increase the availability and accessibility for voice feminization resources for trans people you know so it doesn't have to be me teaching it i don't care if it's me that's why i don't like name my stuff you know like the the official technique of i don't do that stuff because we're talking about like a real objective things here anyone can teach them anyone should teach them and i hope that more people start teaching so that we can but i hope people start teaching really well because we need to raise the floor of voice feminization education across the world so that's what i'm doing and that's why i make all my resources completely for free well not all but all my videos completely for free let's see here now um oh by the way uh let's see i don't know how you see on top of the streams questions about coffee and or speed uh me either just going quick let's see do you have advice for someone who hates their normal voice uh yeah reverse it listen to it reversed yeah listen to it reversed if you don't like the sound of your voice when you listen to it back on recording but you want to know if it sounds male or female just flip the audio and it'll become an amorphous mass of things that you no longer identify with but you'll hear the overall spectral content will be masculine or feminine there's actually a new approach that a former student of mine and a really super close friend of mine came up with totally um she's not like a voice person either she's just like hey i reverse my stuff and it sounds way better i'm like that's genius everybody should do that to practice okay um let's see what do you think the ideal instrument is to get a sense of micro tonal stuff i don't think you use an instrument to get a sense of micro tonal stuff i think you use scala and you hear the harmonic series a bunch um i think micro tonal stuff is tough to do on real instruments not always not always but like it just depends i think that with microchannel stuff you should always start with the harmonic series what does that sound i hear like a low rumbling i think i'm stepping on a cable whoa what is that oh oh i've been playing a piece of music extremely slow okay there it is since when did you start speaking female see my video i just uploaded a video three days ago it's a five year voice timeline i've been practicing my voice for about five years singing voice acting fun but when i try and do it's harder to make bass voice more film voices accents can make with him is there a reason for this or am i more dumb yeah it's because when you do an accent you're putting on a voice you're putting on a character and when you try to feminize your voice you're staying in your default behavior and then trying to modify like the color of that behavior right so what that means is like you're like you're like behavioral you're like normal voice is like behaviorally normalized so it's more of an attractor state that wants you to like come back to that behavior right and we don't want you to come back that behavior whereas when you're doing an accent you're like doing the opposite don't work too hard take care of yourself whoever just said that jira jira can i just like take a moment and pause the stream for a second and say thank you for saying that i really do work too hard and i really don't take care of myself i ended up in the er two days ago with gastrointestinal issues i have some form of colitis it's either like crohn's or the ulcer colitis or whatever it is i i don't get yeah i work way too hard um i sacrifice my health for my students that's you know that's why i got so offended when that person was trying to accuse me of all kinds of negative stuff like no way i spent literally the vast majority of my waking life trying to think how i can make my students and supporters lives better you know so it's very personally insulting to me when someone tries to say like oh you're like grifting or playing a game like i'm not playing a game here you know i worship sound and nothing i do with sound is disingenuous or dishonest that isn't not only an assault to my personality and my personhood but it's an assault to my spirituality i literally am so profoundly connected to sound and i i don't want me to get the glory for anything i'm doing on this channel it's i'm a conduit for sound i did not you know all the things i'm talking about are observations of sound this is stupid i'm leaving we don't want you here then i'm sorry i don't i don't know why you have to be negative let's see here um so uh let me just um remove you bye bye okay so let's see here is it necessary to go through the grasp of traditional no i don't think you need traditional western theory to play microtonal tunings but i think it helps because microtonal tunings have um basically by learning western music you're really learning mean tone you're you're learning basically a pythagorean mean tone kind of thing where you're learning how to stack fifths you're basically learning through classical harmony you're basically learning like the mos of like 5l 2s which basically means you know you have like five large steps whole tones and then two half steps and so 12 tone theory basically teaches you all of that and nothing else uh let's see here oh gosh um dom um we've been over this before but here's dom i'll just show you watch watch the back of my throat here wait hold on hold on hold on i'll just show you dom since you're here and you want answers watch the back of my throat ah part part part i should do that you should see the oropharyngeal constrictors come in like that and you should see the the nasopharynx lower the nasopharynx lowerings from the palatopharyngeas which allows the al the larynx to go even higher than what it normally does let's see here gosh you know that's the first stream i've ever had negative commenters i don't know is it because my youtube's like bigger or something i swear i don't know the bad energy bad vibes that people brought here you guys if you have any bad vibes just get out i don't want you here you know what i mean like i'm supported enough by my supporters and bad vibes not in this stream you know what i'm saying so is there a voice at which to stop the voice stops dropping it's less of a number more of like a phase but yeah your voice changes all the way through your life though so for instance um the aging mat the aging male voice actually gets more feminine over time and the aging female voice gets more masculine over time so they end up sort of converging uh let's see here love you you're awesome thank you so much for the good vibes um i'm just having a nice job yeah let's see um work it's important are you on discord yes i'm on discord um i actually have a discord server through my patreon uh there's my patreon link if you'd like to support the content or whatever let's see here the work you're doing is too important much appreciated uh the discord has been useful for you that's so glad to hear um profound connection to sound yes and you know and you're not alone either one my favorite thing about this entire community is how incredibly connected it's it it's how it's connecting all these people who are incredibly passionate about sound i have met so many incredible incredible people who have the same kind of profound connection to sound and it's honestly a blessing because i i wasn't sure there were other people out there like me you know in terms of my love for sound uh 29 absolutely your lessons are extremely helpful i'm so glad to hear that thank you miss face do you suggest vocal reconstruction no i don't suggest surgery i recommend well i mean i wouldn't tell someone not to get vocal surgery because i'm very supportive of body autonomy you know so like if you want to get surgery do that with your body you know but in general i don't think it's really that good of an effect for what it does to the voice let's see as i see myself i find it so impressive that you do and you still and still struggle with those movements yes i'll keep practicing and following your lead thank you it's great to have you here um thank you christy good vibes good vibes z i always found that to be beautiful when i learned about it how male and female voices are so yes i know it's crazy they sort of just come together like that if you train your voice do you lose your bass voice that you used to have uh yes if you normalize the voice and completely atrophy the other one if you're using both you won't lose the voices though you'll just be able to gain the coordinations for both um sound is fascinating i love them learning about voice feminization as lot as well as sound acoustics thanks i sent an email about a week ago about becoming a student just curious if i'll get a response so i was talking about this earlier margot um for everybody who sends a reply or sends me an email it's not lost it's just i have a massive pool of people waiting um and we book in waves so your email if you send me an email it's not lost you're part of my pool you're part of my list and you'll get pinged and eventually will get to you like i said earlier just to be completely transparent there's like 1300 people in this pool waiting so um i'm trying to do as much as i can about i'm about to take on about 70 new students for the next two semesters or so so you know i'm not it's tough so we're gonna i'm hiring a new teacher that i'll be training um and then i'll also be um what's that video filter i don't have a video filter on at all i don't have any filter whatsoever um the brightness on my camera is up high that's about it um and my yellow it's a little tinted yellow with the white balance but no filters let's see um i do put filters on my youtube videos though to make them look nicer but in the stream i don't do that uh let's see here okay so i'm gonna play some music on my taking questions for a second and i'm just gonna play some music so this is something i've been working on uh new music [Music] so this is in 29 tone near equal just intonation i'll play a little bit of it [Music] hold on just setting this up for us so you can get visuals here too so this is in 29 and you'll see that since it's in a harmonic tuning [Music] it [Music] [Music] [Laughter] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] else [Music] i agree julian [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] yes this is my voice yes it is my voice [Music] i love this part [Music] okay so i'll pause it here for a second to answer some questions uh are these streams available on patreon uh this one will be available publicly on my youtube but i've got about eight or nine different youtube live streams that are private that are available my patrons i also have uh several workshops available that i've done for my patrons i'm actually after this stream i'm gonna upload a two and a half hour or about a two hour long voice workshop that we did last week or so on vocal skills building we talked a lot about falsehood constriction true full constriction we talked about proprioception we talked about a lot of things it's a very productive thing and of course as always i'll just go ahead and post my patreon if you'd like to support me there is the link to support me uh let's see here um i'm glad you guys like that song so that piece i work in fl studio i saw people asking questions about doll and stuff like that i work in fl studio jazz for mars yes it's definitely my voice um let's see you're a great writer thank you very much i'm glad you're vibing this is in 29 uh how long does it take you to create a new tuning uh not very long because i have a system and a theory and approach that i use and so it could take maybe takes me about 30 or 40 minutes to create a new tuning because i usually like to work with uh temperaments i like to take temperaments as the model or the loose blueprint and then i like to find different prime harmonic systems that actually just intonate those systems so that's what i was doing there what do you use an audio editor um so that's like a 29 tone edgy oh let's see here micro tunnel music it slaps really slops wait till you hear a little bit more i'm going to play more of it here in a second ears are not used to it very dreamy glad you like it how long does it take to feminize your voice if you also want to keep your bass singing voice i don't think keeping your singing voice will change the amount of time that you feminize your voice for um you should be able to keep your voice it might make it so it's harder for you to behaviorally normalize because avoidance is a nice way to get no feedback about lower voices so it kind of like skews your behavioral like loop to where you're like you're never doing one thing doing one thing a lot you'll like kind of get worse the one thing you don't do but if you practice both you'll be good that's awesome thanks for the insight this might be super specific but when i practice my voice too much i start hearing myself and muffled in my own ears it becomes difficult is that a common problem or a personal thing uh pretty common problem we don't sound how we do to other people i actually made a youtube video on this called um called uh how to hear yourself you could watch that you can also just flip your audio and reverse it and then you'll hear a different thing that's not really your voice but you'll hear the spectral profile of your voice i notice you have small hands how is your passing what do you mean by that question you mean do i pass um yeah i don't i pass uh i i don't know i never thought about that um i don't really try to stealth or anything because like i i did that i stealth for like a year not worth it it's trash being stealth is trash because then you lie to you like lying to everybody like you know you're like a gathering and someone's like oh like like oh you know they like start talking about like fertility and stuff and you have to be like yeah i have my first i have my first menstrual cycle when i was like 13. you know i'm not trying to like not trying to like put on a front so i i stealth the round for a little bit not worth it not interesting to me um so let's see here uh there isn't much micro tonal music theory on youtube yes absolutely i've actually made on my music channel i actually have a micro tonal stream that i put up where i go through different micro tunnel systems and i talk about different intervals and and we look at a few different things um singing timeline can sing voice be feminized in the same time frame as speaking voice well that's a little hard to say because there's a difference between just singing female and sounding female and passing with your singing voice and then singing good right good singing can take a lifetime we know that because cis singers you know take forever to practice yeah that's another thing too ellie i mean i don't think hands really have anything to do with my passibility i i don't know um so yeah yeah i yes i agree chloe but whatever you know people like that are are somewhat welcome here let's see uh how do you practice your trans when you're in a trans public household do voiceless exercises or um do exercises that don't make very much sound um you can practice with external noise like this if you're in a transphobic household you can at least at the very least you can learn how to find the right resonance by taking noise being very relaxed and try to filter the noise you only turn my specky on for this hold up okay [Music] [Music] so i'm just basically keeping that structure you know uh so if you're in a transphobic household you can probably practice that way because they won't be able to hear you and and you really want to be so relaxed you know what i mean like you're just like breathing uh can you see anybody uh there isn't much stuff on microphone yeah god i reread that probably where my trends probably were my trans swag if i could be someone's yeah you know aaron that's kind of how i feel right now like trans people rather than try to like make us all go stealth and pretend that we don't exist so the world accepts us i kind of like the idea of no you accept us you know regardless because there's gonna i don't know it that's just for every trans person not just for some you know and that's really important to me um let's see here okay only yeah let's see here can we collaborate sometime maybe sure i don't collaborate much just because i'm so busy all the time but i'm down to collaborate sometimes voice training tends makes me feel dysphoric which can make it really hard to be consistent do you have advice with that yeah there's actually a ton of discussion about that on my server in terms of advice for that i'll tell you the advice that helped for me this doesn't work for everybody in fact for some people it's actively harmful so for me i disassociated from my voice i just thought about it like sound no other no different than my synthesizer or my pianos i just looked at it like it was sound you know and i completely took myself out of the equation that worked for me might not work for other people there's a lot of discussion about that that's all the mental battle is one of the hardest things about this entire process for sure um yes have you ever seen anna marie jeffy yes i don't know how to pronounce her last name she's pretty good i love how she does what she does um let's see here any tips for resonance into phonation yeah so if you're having trouble phonating with your resonance it probably means that you're constricting so let me show you if you're doing voiceless exercises we don't want them to sound like this right a lot of people hear me demonstrate on youtube the sounds and you gotta remember i'm trying to show you what it sounds like so i'm really close to my microphone but when you're actually practicing voiceless exercises you should barely hear any sound because that aspirate quality of the voicelessness is actually created primarily through adduction and falsehood constriction so if you have a very turbulent airstream like this that's going to be hard to onset with so like it ends up doing that to my onset right so if you're going to go and practice your resonance and you're going to work with the onset you should like not even really be able to hear the quality of voicelessness as opposed to that's probably the issue that you're falling into if you have trouble phonating uh flex on transistor okay um let's see here yeah like when guys hit on me in public like i'm like uh i'm trans you know just to let you know you're hitting on trans girls so if you go out there and you try and spew transphobia and you say oh trans people blah blah blah blah blah blah blah no no no you just came up to me you're you're a nun tweeted with me you just hit on me you know so i make it known to like anybody who hits on me in public i'm like hey by the way i'm trans so it's like this cute thing right here that you're hitting on you know now protect trans women protect and defend trans women that's what i tell them i say you know go protect trans women let's see here um which i love like i love doing that because like guys kind of like get taken aback by that and then they're like okay maybe trans women are kind of cool you know it's funny i don't know because most people have never met someone in person that's trans you know like protect trans women and um yeah so let's see here i think it's wrong effective to be focused i agree it's the wrong perspective to be focused on passing um it's just hard to get past well i mean here's the thing it's not that it's like the wrong perspective it's unhealthy but then again like you know for me i'm trans because i didn't like my sexual dimorphism so i would have had dysphoria until i fixed my sexual dimorphism you know and for me it's like passing just means that my sexual dimorphism is is aligned with societies and expectations which to me is a helpful thing to remind my brain like hey like you you know you're doing you know you you are moving there for me though it's all about secondary sex characteristics you know like my physical features and um so that's why i felt like passing was so important when i first started but now that i pass like i'm able to say like it's not as important i think that's a privilege and i think that passing is important because it's going to help you get rid of your dysphoria but i also don't think that we should see passing as like the arbiter of validity you know like passing not passing that doesn't make you more or less valid you know what i'm saying and that's the that is where passing becomes toxic when people use passability as a gatekeeping device that is toxic so that's what we want to avoid i'm going to play some more music from this piece you guys were vibing so let's see here here we go [Music] [Applause] [Music] someday [Music] thank you [Music] cuz [Music] [Music] [Music] bye [Music] thank you tom it's hot [Music] i'm becoming [Music] peace me [Music] um [Music] how do you conceptualize all these different intervals and harmonies outside of 12 well if you understand like sound and harmony you realize it's all one thing you know it's like it's one thing of harmony and so it doesn't matter what how many notes you have or what system you're in they like are of the same thing they're just reductions of like a harmonic sound mass in some ways a tiny micro tunnel step yes definitely [Music] oh before you go before you go euphoria thank you so much for joining and i hope you have a great rest of your day thank you for the good vibes i was reading your comments but the music was playing thanks for coming and joining us live and everything like that okay now let's get back to our music i just wanted to thank them for joining because they've been really awesome and giving good vibes all day [Music] [Applause] [Music] z would you work on a video game soundtrack i already have and i used to do that a lot when i was younger i won't do that anymore very much simply because my voice stuff is much better but check this out if you search for scrap mechanic the video game i did the ost for that game and we actually just released the full version here is the uh the trailer so there's scrap mechanic i did the soundtrack for that game uh now someone else said is this 22 edo no this is not edo this is justin's nation it's a 29 note near equal just intonation definitely not edo i don't really like edo's very much i use them sometimes for ease but lately i've just been making pure harmonic sounds okay so you normally talk about the sun being a giant death laser why is it featuring in this track and of course sola oh because you heard sun yeah okay so sun fall yeah okay so the sun for me don't tell people this because i want my music to remain secret the sun to me is a metaphor for the harm like harmonic series the source you know it's like so when it's like wow that's why every time i like talk about the sun and my music i'm like at least in sola there's like a lot of those like harmonic 11 you know like um like basically like a four five six seven kind of nine eleven structure to me that's like sun it's just it gives all the energy for the music you know uh so sh don't tell people that though because i wanna keep it secret let's see here uh you're gonna drop this i can't wait for you to drop this track you know okay what do you guys think should i drop this track as a single or should i finish this track hold on to it finish the other track i'm working on and then release my fifth lp i'm gonna release the lp no matter what but should i release the tracks as i finish them or do you think i should hold on to this one as like a secret i don't really want to hold on to it i think it's beautiful i want to share it i want people to hear it so um it was 24 minutes 29 it might be 29 is there anything meaningful from seoul that can be played live all of that can be played live yeah definitely once i get a um once i get a loomatone i'll be able to play all this stuff live really i'll be able to map my own tunings how i want them but no there's not 22 it's 29 and it's harmonic it's not linear did you have any anxiety before starting hormones despite knowing uh not really no i had waited for like i was out for like seven months before i took hormones so i was like at that point i was like i need to start as soon as possible hello hypno dose hello valerie hello everyone uh let's see here uh dude let's see here it sounds like a bit of force was your quality without the sucks yeah and you know another thing too just so you all know i'm pretty sure you're only hearing this track in mono right now you should hear this in stereo because i have spent so long getting the stereo balance perfect like the spatiality of this tune is wild it literally sounds the whole time i'm working on it i'm trying to like put them in the space you know and uh i'll play some live music here in a second some micro tonal stuff and everything like that okay uh yeah lps are dead that's how i feel too but i release them as like pillars throughout my career so i've got three lps i released a fourth lp piano album from three years ago and then this will be my fifth lp and so i think i'm just gonna release them as singles basically and then i'll drop them as an album or whatever hold it for the album you'll buy it on vinyl i don't think it'll fit on vinyl because it's like going to be like an hour and 10 15 minutes of pure micro tonality stuff the 24 minute would be a cool vinyl release right like get like a like a 30 minute vinyl cut or whatever but then you'd have to interrupt it and turn it over imagine the song so long you have to like turn it over oh that's so funny okay um let's see uh sorry i'm not taking any questions right now i'm just trying to catch up the other thing okay blessing to find you because i feel like i've proven like well that's really really really really thankful to be able to heal others with music i love that i think sound is one of those beautiful incredible things in this whole universe and i think sound can heal all sorts of things and maybe not even physical healing but healing so much comes from internally it comes from spirituality it comes from your mental health and i think sound can provide that for everybody um so at least in small doses to help everyone else thanks so much for everything you do can't wait to see more from you thank you have a great night concrete sleep well uh i need to open back i need open back headphones for your music my old one's broke that sucks how do you approach writing longer songs like this one um well uh this piece started out in my opinion you are a lesbian you don't even know who i date though what how do you know i'm a lesbian what i mean i dated mostly men throughout throughout my transition so far as i don't know we'll see i i am yeah i like girls i like both i i don't preference i think gender is a meme and i think that you know if i meet someone who i really like and i think they're cute uh or they're cool or whatever then i'll probably date them but gender is a gigantic meme i don't really have a preference for body types okay let's see um let's see let's see um i the way i date men and women is very different though like when i date men i'm definitely like like a more feminine role and when i date women i definitely prefer to take like more of like a masculine role or delete roles altogether but that's really hard to do because we've been growing up in a culture that like programs us and kind of like brainwashes us with gender let's see will it be on band camp yeah here's my band camp if anybody wants to check out my music wait let's see here um here you go oh wait ah here's my band camp if you guys watch all my music's completely free and it always will be free if you want to support it feel free to but you don't have to how do you approach writing longer songs like this one well this piece started out first as a little experiment in 29 tone edgy so i made a 29 tone edgy tuning and then i made this it was just a tiny little thing i wasn't even thinking anything of it and then i ended up making this [Music] and then all of a sudden i accidentally had this banger like verse part and then i ended up accidentally making this and then i ended up accidentally transitioning it back into itself [Music] then i recapped it and then at this point here's where i really here's where the composition process really began for me so the first four minutes of this piece were completely free because i was just noodling and it all fell into place and it was like yeah this is great the rest of the composition though 20 the 20 other minutes that took me a lot of time i i really focused on the form in fact the form of this work i think is wonderful i think it's got one of the best forms of a piece that i've ever made where the apex of the piece is seated versus the rest of the album what it does with the original a and b material what it does with the c and d material and how it transforms them at the end and how it re-transitions everything back in on itself the developmental section in a way this is kind of like a ternary uh it's kind of like a compound ternary form but not really it's like a modified like ternary-esque sonata form where there's like a middle section that's like unique that doesn't really come back but the form i post i posted about the development on my server but the form of this piece took me a while and i really had to spend a lot of time thinking about the balance and proportions of everything so let's play some more of it here so i'll get to this good part here so we already heard the retransition sun fall now here's where we go [Music] good night it's me thanks for joining [Music] i love this part good night [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] i love this [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] welcome amanda thanks for joining us thank you i'm so glad you all like this i do release my music i have a music youtube channel i also release music on my bandcamp this will be on my album my micro tonal album i'll probably drop this as a single in the next three weeks too but i really saw that on a different channel than my transvoice one [Music] aim [Music] don't [Music] yeah for those of you who don't know i had a pretty long career in music and music production composition performance touring all that kind of stuff music theory education that was i had over like a 13-year career in that before i even came to voice so um my roots are music [Music] [Music] did you start by playing jazz what got you in a sound at the beginning no i started by playing progressive metal then i got into electronic music um oh oh hold on we missed this part yeah i got into metal music first progressive metal then i got into electronic music then i studied music at university i studied music composition and music theory and there i got into like classical music got really obsessed with like romantic music impressionist music uh 20th century kind of stuff um i also became really really fascinated with early music so i studied a lot of like organum and like older chant styles i got really obsessed with um ethnomusicology so i've studied a lot of different world music ethnic styles and various cultures and so forth um and then um yeah that's how i got into music definitely not through jazz but when i was like when i was like 18 or 19 i heard bill evans for the first time and i said wow i've got to be able to copy that person i need to be able to play like that before i die i was like 18 or 19 when i said that to myself and then i started transcribing bill evans a lot and i started reading and listening to a lot of elevens and i started practicing jazz piano and in fact my percussion my percussion instructor who uh i'm gonna call him later we i love him he's awesome i miss him very much uh he taught me so much about life i won't say his name here for the sake of privacy but um he taught me so much about the world he's an incredible percussion educator but he would always get on me z you're practicing you're practicing too much piano you need to practice more percussion or i'm going to fail you you know he would always try to like i'm gonna i would do okay with percussion still but he's like you gotta practice more percussion you know and i would just go in the piano rooms and i would just play piano hours a day you know and i was like i gotta learn how to get this jazz thing and so i ended up studying jazz and i got into jazz theory and then that uh post 20th century theory i got into all kinds of things and so for me yeah oh my god portrait in jazz is incredible incredible you know one of my favorite tracks by him is re person i knew off of uh what's the album the album that has re-person i knew what's it called let me like read person i knew it's got like a one word album name i think or two words wait um not time remembered um re person i knew here we go it's from the album moon beams yeah moon beams and polka dots oh my god every person i knew the way that that starts on the pedal it's so sweet when it finally moves off that pedal it just feels like animated by everything um contortionist a plus yeah contortionist is dope we were in the same home state so i've i've um played a few shows with them and stuff like that they're pretty cool dudes uh let's see here bill evans god yes greed z z steps is that what you guys are gonna start calling it i'm down with that i mean you guys i i don't i don't protest you guys do whatever uh you're so scared you need to get tested for covet that's something i can't help you with i'm not don't know much about doctoring things or medical advice maybe get tested if you're worried about it that's really all i can say uh is piano a percussion instrument yeah i know that's a okay yes yes yes following up on the sun question is that why so many of your songs on your other channel have a thumbnail with a round object in the middle well the circle is like infinity um the circle to me represents like the octave the duplicity to where all harmonic structures exist underneath you know so it's sort of like the circle is like i mean unless you're doing something that's like um you know unless you're doing uh like a uh um you know unless you're doing what's that what do they even call that uh where you're basing your period on the third harmonic instead i forgot what people even call that right now um i don't do that instead of an octave you know you have um the octave plus fifth uh what's that called there's micro tonals lurking in here come on somebody help me out i can't remember what it's called you know like bull and pierce is an example of this it's um it's a a third harmonic divided circle basically i can't remember what it's called right now um oh uh tri-tape yeah so like tri-tape tunings tri-tape tunings like they still have a circle too but their circle like doesn't represent the same thing but really if you have an octave at all in your music ever uh or a repeating point where the system repeats you can think of it as a circle so uh do you prefer longer pieces or shorter pieces i prefer longer pieces that i make but i prefer shorter pieces that other people make um you know lately i've been listening to a lot of just different hip hop and a lot of that stuff it's very short um okay wow okay uh yeah okay we're go wow okay so there's that um and so here we go so uh what was i gonna do oh i was clicking back over here on comments um well it's not really the sun it's like it's the space it's it's the option it's a pool of options that you can then notch out and create what you want inside of um like for instance if you have five edo that's just five equally spaced notches on a circle basically right 31 edo is 31 equally spaced notches on a circle so to me it represents like cycle periodicity returning to the point um that's why i'm drawn to it so much um let's see here and that's not even really a conscious drawn to that's just like you know i that's just what draws me uh let's see start on drums um okay now we'll continue on with this tune i think i got the question i was gonna ask oh here we go [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] thank you for joining uh elena have a great your day okay i like this part a lot [Music] i write music not genres that's why i'm just teasing amanda no uh i know you okay interesting there's so much spectral activity up high that's because i'm using an fm bass and fm bass always creates a lot of that stuff i sometimes filter my bases but not always it depends on what i'm looking for this section i wanted a really sh wall of noise and i wanted the mids to be clear for all these like bells and like little instruments like that but i wanted everything else to be based bodhi i've enjoyed your youtube comments thank you yeah yeah thank you it's great to have you here i hope you're well [Music] tonight sevish and i i would say are acquaintances i'd say we're both fond with each other they comment on my music and i comment on theirs look under my music view videos you'll see that sevis post like good stuff about it [Music] thank you poison samurai it was so great having you here thanks for contributing yourself to this uh stream you had such a nice energy and good vibe so i hope to see you again [Music] retransition thank you isabel have a great night and be safe okay how do i do super chat i don't know what that is [Music] [Applause] sleep [Music] [Music] my [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] okay that's all you guys get for now and then i'll play this part [Music] [Music] i'm so sorry i'm stuck here like this [Music] okay there you go there's a taste of my new piece it's called sandra um it's like uh it's 24 minutes it's a gigantic micro tonal epic odyssey length kind of piece it'll be like the backbone kind of core to my fifth full length album which will be a micro tonal full length uh is it weird that my favorite part is the dens no it's not tom because my favorite part of the entire piece is that right there at the end where i'm like i'm sorry i'm stuck here like this forever it just sounds so i know it and you know what it actually connects tom it connects to prayer room connects to pandelia it connects to all these other pieces that i've made um specifically prayer room because i mean think about prayer room hello hello you know it's like it's ah it's a concept album so i'm not trying to spoil it all i'm not trying to give too many leaks about it or anything um but yeah i agree completely with you tom i made that part at the end and every time i listen to it it's like whoa that's like too effective it's like it just feels like a huge like god after that huge piece after all that stuff after all that noise after everything it's just like a gigantic sigh of relief that like let's go you know so uh that's why i like that i'll play a little bit of piano here while um well i'm going um oh here let me get piano i'm gonna play some piano piano i'll probably play a micro tonal tuning too i'm gonna play it in a 12 note vice oh you guys can't hear that hold on oh oopsie i think i just crashed my whole thing one second i really like those heavy z step parts i love that z step uh oh a new meme okay let's see here keyscape yes i use fl studio i've used fl studio for god i think since like 2005 2004 about 14 15 16 years-ish around that area um let's see here i probably will never change i really like fl quite a lot i've never felt limited gotta go but i'm so glad you caught the stream it's been really fun and informative plus you're loving your music thanks so much rapid it's great to have you here um now you really want to make micro tonal music do it a lot of people think that micro oh oh sorry alias no no no uh sorry one of my friends is here tom uh tom's a great microtonalist as well um but no uh one of the things that i find um you know people often think it's harder to write in microtonal microtonality for me personally it's easier to write in microtonality because it's like it it's just like you know i feel like with 12 notes there's like things i hear or things i want to do that i can't do you know and that's not the case when you're in micro tonality you can kind of do whatever you want so to me it's a lot more liberating um here's a tuning i made this is a 12 note a 12 note set that basically acts like 12 notes equal temperament but it's not equal temperament it's just [Music] intonation [Music] oh [Music] so [Music] oh [Music] so do [Music] hello everyone let me read some comments let me read some comments okay let's see i've never played an instrument but i want to okay hold on let me go all up to where i first started comments okay oh no one ever makes it work okay well okay i feel like mastering 12 tones yeah i mean i think that's good here's the thing though 12 tones is not inherently easier or inherently better or it doesn't offer you anything special it gives you more symmetry that's all 12 notes gives you is good symmetry it gives you three-way four-way two-way and six-way symmetry that's all it gives you but it doesn't actually give you anything that makes it easier to learn music in my opinion it would be easier for people to learn music on thirty-one notes honestly i think it would be easier to learn music and teach music to beginners on 31 notes because you can actually hear harmonic series chords much closer you can at least have a four five six seven like how are you gonna teach somebody the real fundamentals of music without a legitimate four five six seven like twelve to twelve no equal temperament it doesn't even have a four or five six seven so like how can you even you know like the fundamental building block of sound is like the harmonic behavior of our universe essentially um i hope my time gets better thank you i appreciate that and it's just like um like how can you teach that if you don't have a 456 what's your favorite instrument um probably the voice uh yeah probably the voice or there's also more out there teaching that 12 notes don't just give you symmetry yeah i mean there's more there's more skills that give you symmetry too but i mean i've spent years and years and years and 12 notes equal time i taught music theory i taught the traditional i went you know i've done the whole the traditional music theory thing and um it's great it's lovely but there's nothing special about 12 notes really uh it gives you it gives you a pyth seven basically it gives you a good fifth it sacrifices your third so that like beginners have trouble understanding how major thirds work have you ever noticed why it's hard how it's harder to make major chords sound good in your music than minor chords it's because the major third is so out of tune you know like imagine if you take like a like if i go to 12 20 equal temperament and i just play this listen ooh alert [Music] it's like so so so so noisy like that versus something more like this we need beginners to hear the harmonic series when they start making music we need beginners to understand the unison we need beginners to understand the second harmonic the third harmonic the fifth the sixth and the seventh and the eighth at the very minimum we we need well here's the thing even when you're composing in 12 tone though the behaviors of these harmonic systems are what make 12 tones work the way they do so like you're learning 12 tones you're really learning a generalized down projection an approximation of things that are actually more pure that out there out there in the world so if you learn the harmonic series and you learn the pure things first it means that you can apply it to any other tuning system so even if i'm in a different tuning system that has nothing to do with 12 notes or 35 notes or whatever you can pick any number of notes but if you start to become aware and acquainted with the way that the harmonic behavior works then you'll be able to navigate around all these different systems because they're all fundamentally basically quoting and approximating from that fundamental series you know let's see here no one ever makes it work i feel like i'm mastering 12 yeah that's a good idea it's awesome that freedom with yourself with voice vocals instruments totally agree i feel music kind i feel music as a nervous kind of energy i do a lot of energy work dubstep the cinema all the way to andromeda welcome to andromeda um good starting instrument valerie uh piano i can't i think that people should just start if they're if people are trying to pick up an instrument for the first time just start on piano it's going to make your life a lot easier because then you're going to play i'll be able to play all the other instruments and you're going to be able to linearly visualize harmony and pitch it makes it much easier just passing by thank you kuro kama uh um don't look like at that learn 12 to an interval theory and core construction yeah it's right i mean i'm not saying 12 tone theories trash like i taught 12 tone theory and learned top tone theory for years and it has a lot of amazing things and i still think in those kinds of models but those kinds of models are basically like a certain color you know and i can think the same way that i do in 12 tone but i can think it in different systems that give me more options or better ideas or different things you know it is much more about color i really like this piece i'm glad you liked it while i was from a while ago i must be pretty far behind on comments i'm really sorry drums are valid to start too yes i agree can't stay cuz i was i'd probably be but whatever i hear is beautiful thank you so much i'm glad you enjoyed my videos this song reminds me of my father i'm sorry to hear that my thoughts go out to you um other girls will call you musicians will call you b flat seven yeah that's right b flat b flat seven i got you [Music] don't worry i got you on that b flat seven throw a little alt throw a little uh oh let's throw one of these in there too [Music] okay enough b-flat seven okay let's see here i hope your tummy gets better yeah me too me too have you what's your favorite instrument my favorite instrument is piano for sure i think or a voice one of the other it depends like my my voice is like my instrument so it's like my favorite but like um do i perform in a group i used to perform in a group and i used to tour i'm done performing live for the most part unless like you know i don't know unless it's right um it's just so much work for nothing i drag my equipment around you know and play and then tear my equipment down and go elsewhere so hi there eva welcome um so i don't really like performing live very much anymore other than from this comfort of my bedroom like right now this is the plight of the eternal tuning guitar yes i totally agree but there are guitar solutions for micro tonality tom and chat the person that's been posting some of the micro channel stuff i've been referencing um they're actually about to build like a crazy crazy micro tonal guitar that's like a what is it tom it's like every other subset it's like a 19 you're doing a 19 note subset of 43 or no of what is it 52 what are you what are you subsetting out of i can't even remember so it's like a 19-tone guitar that's actually tuned in uh subset 19 subset of 31. okay so you ended up going to 31 edo subset i got you 19 tons of f31 that's cool uh let's see here um i always start with the violin always had a hard time reading music on piano for that yeah isn't that awful alyssa tell me if this tell me if you think this has why alyssa um do you think that you're learning violin made it so you're more nuanced with intonation and then when you would go to try to play the piano and you'd read the music you'd think like oh the major third and it ends up being like way sharper on the piano so you feel like you're like playing the wrong notes that's how it is when i play 12 notes now like when i play 12 notes sometimes i like get a melody in my head and then i like try to like improvise it and it's like what that's not it at all you know it's only like 10 cents off or 20 cents off but it's like the colors shift on me um let's see i get mystery a lot more in vietnamese than english is there a matter of speaking isn't viennese more of an intonated language i would wager that if you feel like you pass quite well in english but you get misgendered in vietnamese there are things about your tonality that you need to improve you know that's something that i wouldn't be able to help you with because that's like a culturally sensitive thing that requires an in-group focus and an in-group perspective on what we call an um an emic perspective so there's an edic when you're whenever you're studying musicology or whenever you're studying cultures or whatever sociology or not sociology what's it called where you study humans i can't remember but i ethnomusicology so in ethnomusicology you basically have like two branches of thinking an edict perspective and an emic perspective edick is the outsider's perspective so like when i try anthropology oh yeah there we go musicology anthropology thank you very much yeah so like anthropology if you study the culture from the outside you're an edict observer and there is a 100 limitation on what edict perspectives can offer and you make perspectives offer so what what that's uh probably comes to me as alyssa if you pass really well in english but you're not passing very well in vietnamese there's something in the emic culture there that i wouldn't be able i mean i could probably listen to it and tell you what it is but like in terms of i and i could probably help you feminize it still but i'm sure there's like nuance there that's like you know i wouldn't be like super aware of but i could probably hear it still uh edict emic e t i c e m i c uh pretty pretty basic concept for studying anthropology let's see here uh is it a burden to be able to notice the imperfection of 12 edo yes and no at first it wasn't but now that i'm becoming way more aware of it it kind of is yeah actually um there's just when i play in 12 edo do you use vst plugins or hardware sense both mostly vsts because they can be micro tuned this can be micro tuned too uh but it's a lot trickier and it takes a bit of effort um also the mini this can be micro tuned too but it's um a bit more work so uh yeah what was that question is it a burn to be able to notice and protection of televidio it wasn't at first but then it became a big burden um my thing is now whenever i want to play in 12 sunny cool temperament like right now i've got this played this isn't 12 vdo i just i can't even get into it i don't know it just doesn't um it doesn't become transcendent it's like it doesn't emerge from the paper you know like 12 edo to me reminds me of a flat screen where like i'm looking at the thing you know it's like a difference of watching a video of a house tour or going and touring a house yourself you know if you're looking for places or whatever like the video tour like you can see it you understand what it is you can get an idea of it but like there's like this emergent thing that happens when you actually go in person and you visit the space or whatever um and that is kind of what i um how i feel about microtonality versus 12 notes 12 notes feels very like flat not flat isn't sharp or flat but it feels like it's just i don't know it just doesn't come off the page it's like there's no depth to it it's just there you know it almost sounds like a facsimile um we speak lower i'm not sure about that how do you spell that word okay got that got that uh got that thank you dom i really appreciate that um it also might be more confident with yeah that could be two hmm i'm trying to do the exercise the slider channel but i still can't get the thin voice even in a high pitch try to let go when you go up so a lot of people what happens is when they go up and pitch they try to grab more they try to squeeze more there's something called the thyrovocalis muscle that runs through the inner core of your vocal folds and if you squeeze it it's like a bicep that gets thicker right and so probably if you're having trouble finding a thin voice as you're going up in pitch you're like gripping the thyroid will count you have to let go of it purr pull right i'm like getting rid of it it's so don't think about dragging your voice higher and getting thinner try to actually like let it flow up that's the best way i could say it because if you get rid of that like vocal squeeze your thing will go a lot better and that that is my guess based on text you know it's hard to say which is text let's see you should listen to your mother or someone talk and copy oh yeah i think that's a good idea too my mother passed away and i have no recordings of her voice unfortunately so rest in peace mom uh what's your favorite bjork album i haven't actually listened to a full bjork album i like bjork i've just never sat down and listened to her albums i should though good nights uh magog it's a flat image yeah exactly it's like a down projection basically um melee win are you guys wanting melee now or what um flattening of photoshop since compressing all the layers down to one sheet yeah exactly that's how it feels when i play 12 edo it's just it's so it's there it's not it's giving you nothing else you know like when i play even even in something that's like 12 edo that basically sounds the same like this listen this basically sounds like a 12 video even that's already starting to get emergent stuff did you hear the harmonics like even the chromatic scale sounds like kind of like that you know and and this is just a few cents away from 12 notes i took 12 notes and then i snapped them based on the the 46 to 92 lineal segment of the harmonic series and it's very very close to 12 edo but it's not exactly 12 video and the small changes of it cause it to like that's actually sharper than the 12 tone edo major third but it's actually cleaner and purer [Music] let's compare it to 12 video so here's here's the vice the vice 23 major chord now here's here's the 12 tone did you hear right when it hit it was like there was all that phasing that occurred because of like the sort of not locked in harmonics and in fact if i play chords like this these chords sound like 12 tone equal temperament chords like this kinda kind of it just glows [Music] oh see like that was a chord that i just played that chord doesn't sound near as good in twelve tone equal temperament that chord and twelfth an equal temperament i hate when my fingers play it like in fact right when i played that chord i was like oh no it's gonna sound like crap and it actually sounded really good because it's like just a better tuning and by better i don't mean better i mean more harmonic you know not better i don't think there's like better worse tunings or whatever it's all what you're looking for musically you know let's see here uh yeah yeah so there's that vespertine vest routine is one of my favorite words ever there's actually this marimba piece it's a really really good marimba piece um a marimba piece called vespertine formations it was one of the most interesting marimba pieces i've ever seen performed live i think it was for four marimbas and all the marimba players they're fi it's four five octave marimbas and all the marimbas stay in a square and they like play with these like all these little rods and does more harmonic mean closer to the harmonic series yes exactly the fest routine formations was so incredible wait christopher dean's your dad and he composed that wait i'm talking about your dad's piece that i saw performed in concert that i like a lot and i remember it wait are you serious oceanity weirdest smallest world ever i i've only seen that piece performed live once i've never heard a recording of that piece i saw it performed at a at a percussion conference in indiana i forget where i was in the middle of the state at this big percussion lots of things oh my god oceanity that is literally the weirdest okay okay check this out one time i had someone on my stream during my christmas stream somebody was here that i went to college with and they didn't know it was me and then when i like showed my like self on cam i showed an old picture of myself they're like holy crap i know you from college so i've had that crazy small experience and then this is even crazy this is even cra i think this is crazier because it's you know college is a lot of people but there's like only one person who made that piece that i just randomly quoted dude that is so weird such a small world i love that piece have you heard it played i love that i just love it it got me thinking about actually it was a big inspiration for my um you've never heard someone talk about his music like that how do people normally talk about it yeah so it was very animated to me and it was um great performers who brought it to life um but it inspired me actually there's a piece on my album my my third full-length album icosahedron from 2016. there's a piece on there called matryoshka which is just basically these long swells there's three long swells in the whole piece they're like two minute long swells and stuff like that and that piece is what inspired me because i realized i was like well dang if there can be a maroon piece where they just basically you know swell with those things and stuff why can't i just make a piece where i swell so it kind of gave me the courage to make a piece like that that is that is so weird i need a good recording of that if he's got a good recording of it i'd love to hear it again it's been years anyways that is just wild wild wild wild um poggers yes agreed super hyper mega turbo poggies is there a rip of this song um i'm not sure i don't have it i've never seen a recording of it i've tried looking for it on youtube and the versions i've seen are like kids that are kind of playing it that aren't that good but the first time i heard it it was like a really professional like top level ensemble they destroyed it it sounded incredibly good so uh there we go yeah they sounded amazing when they played it it was so good um did you come out after college yes i did come out after college i basically graduated and then two or three months after i graduated i came out so it was one of those things i was kind of holding on to in college i sort of knew but kind of wasn't sure and then like when i got out of college i was like okay well for the rest of my life it's just me so how do i how do i be comfortable with myself and that's kind of why i transitioned um gosh i started practicing there was a question that was really good that i missed there was a voice question that was super good that i missed that i wanted to get to but that question that that um amazing happenstance just stood out and i can't find the questions so you're cool uh ziazia it's whatever it's not my real name it's my like you know online like handle uh it's like my you always say essential stuff about changing your voice but you never understand it anyway all right sam i'll try to make it as simple as possible for you when you try to change your voice you're trying to do two things soften up your voice and make it sound brighter you soften up your voice by changing how much vocal fold activity you have so if i go ah that's not a very soft voice because i was using a lot of my vocal folds to make that sound right so i'm trying to make ha ha ha that's a thinner sound i'm using less of my vocal folds okay and then after we have a thinner sound we have to learn how to shrink our space in there and we do that simply through mimicry or different exercises with proprioception there's a lot of different models and here's the thing it's hard to teach people through this platform because i like to teach people based on their unique challenges or their unique strengths and skills so the approach that's going to work for you is going to be different than an approach that works for somebody else basically though we need to thin out our voice apart okay so now my voice is thinner but i haven't done the resonance part right part and so what i'm going to try and do is i'm just going to try and change the resonance and now i'm thin and i've got a brighter voice right so that's probably the simplest way to describe it you're looking for a very soft and comfortable light voice and then you're simply trying to change the size of your throat so that it sounds um like so this is a big throat this is a very thin voice and a very big throat um and then i'm just going to uh i just changed the size of my throat back there and the size of my space back there and i kept the thinness the same okay those are the two fundamental things that you're trying to change about voice feminization um is it yeah of course it's possible yeah actually uh gino you can just check out i made a video like two like a week ago uh 25 different voices there's raspy voices in there there's butch voices there's yeah i actually do a smoker voice in there a female smoker voice did you know as a kid i knew that i wanted to be a girl as a kid um i just didn't know that was like a thing you could like do you know what i mean it was like one of those things that was like i knew but i didn't know you could do it it was like one of those things that i was like yeah i would do this if it were possible i would like pray to god like hey god can you turn me into a girl blah blah blah but of course nothing happened and then i was very frustrated then i just kind of lived with it and then um yeah so i knew as a kid but i didn't like fully no no you know because it was a no no that's why i didn't no no let's see here i want to say that i want to say thanks thank you i want to say thank you i'm 16 on hormones for nearly a year and your vids have helped so much may that honestly means so much i'm so thankful to be able to help everybody in this process specifically it's really really touching to be able to help minors because i know like you know you guys are in the thick of the like socialized learning where you're like surrounded by like classmates it will not name workers covet but like it really means a lot and i'm really glad that i can affect your life in such a positive way so early um it's your hacker name my hacker name is glitch well i don't have a hacker name so i'm not a hacker but it would be glitch okay let's see here um uh i'm i'm vb trans and my youtube name is zara should i wait until i go on t blockers no you should start voice right away really it's hormones don't change much i will say that when i started hormones it was much easier for me to change my voice simply because it was like i was more comfortable with my body i didn't feel like every day i was masculinizing more so the moment i got on hormones it made it a lot easier to practice more often more frequently i've started practice to feminize my voice even at a low starting point is it is the truth i would lose the tonality if i get to higher tones in the range no zen you don't have to lose the the sort of contour the pitch behaviors or the sort of dynamic quality that your voice has when you raise your larynx that doesn't have to happen um and it's also true that we don't need to go higher like a lot of people get really lost in the pitch thing you don't really have um you don't really have to like be that higher like this is um okay wait uh so this is like a 130 hertz or 145 ish or 150ish or whatever like you don't really need to have like a lot of that like girly tonality in order to sound female you know there's a there's a huge variety of different voices out there that exist in the world there are so many different voices uh and whatever one is most comfortable for you um then you you know that's what's most comfortable for you let's see i started practicing okay is it possible to raspy voice yeah i just did one uh let's see here guys try that but instead anyway oh my god i prayed when i was younger as well yeah actually that's kind of why i like straight away from organized religion because i would like spend all this time trying to pray to god to like turn me into a girl and then nothing happened and i was like well clearly there is no god that's kind of what i deduced as a child uh and now i see that i was wrong a sound is sort of sound is not my god you know because i i but it's this natural force that i'm compelled to to come closer to and to be a conduit for and connect deeper to so um sound is kind of my spirituality and you know i will say it has helped me a lot in my life having a real true sense of spirituality i totally understand why people love religion because it actually makes things so much easier it makes the day-to-day existence so much easier and painless to have something that you're like putting more of yourself into um and yeah the um voice voice and sound and stuff is is that for me so let's see here um i knew it puberty it just hit me all of a sudden i knew before puberty and then after puberty i kind of didn't i ignored it because i didn't really have the strongest puberty when i first had my testosterone checked by my endocrinologist in 2015 it came back at uh 230 ngdl of testosterone so like i barely had any testosterone like legitimately um so i didn't really masculinize as much as i would have as a teenager and that's one of the reasons why like i delayed my transition as long as i did i think because i was like a femme boy you know i was like a fin boy for most of my life it wasn't until i hit 19 and 20 that i really start to masculinize and i was like holy crap this is the nastiest worst thing and when i say nasty i don't that's not a hate to masculine men out here you know i love masculinity masculinity is really nice but just for me and my body uh masculinity on my body was gross to me but yeah so no no no shame to those trans masks out there or the gnc people who want masculinity i think there's a weird culture of trans femmes like hating on testosterone and hating on masculinity and i think that comes sometimes it's kind of toxic i think that we can hate what masculinity and testosterone did to us without necessarily like implying or like shaming others who might enjoy that for themselves you know and that's something i'm trying to be more sensitive of because i really wasn't sensitive to that for a long time like when i first started my transition but now that you know i've just kind of experienced more it's kind of like yeah there's that negativity that comes from that implication so i try to avoid that let's see there's so many questions i'm trying to get to everything um uh par um so like uh uh okay i'm 16 and you're helping a lot it's really hard to find good content like yours for free thank you amanda um you can you can thank everybody that supports me on patreon you know that's why i'm able to make the content at the quality level that i do because i'm backed by an incredible community of people who support me day in and day out and i don't just mean financially support i mean emotionally support me like those my supporters have my back if i'm you know if i'm injured if i'm sick if i've got a disease you know if i'm depressed like i have a big group of people in my corner and so it's not just me that's doing this content it's the community this is a community channel for the community powered and and supported by the community for our community um and yes i'm sort of the the mouthpiece and the spokesperson but um it's definitely it's definitely more of a it's definitely more of that let me go ahead here and also just plug my patreon that's what i have to do right just like if i was on twitch i'd be mentioning subs or whatever so i'll just go ahead and share my patreon here if you'd like to support my content in any way i think even a dollar um gets you access to like voice stuff on their videos and and education previous workshops and and streams and stuff um so anything helps anything uh supports let's see now i'll quit i'll quit uh selling out let me get back to questions um no i'm just kidding i hope to get your question answered what's your question hold on i'll answer the question i don't see it though what was the question that you want to answer me to answer okay if you asked the question in the last five minutes and i missed it and ask it again i'll answer it now because i can't scroll up anymore there's too many comments um yeah i see that a lot it's sad to see so much testosterone toxic yeah i agree i've always thought i had low testosterone levels and start estrogen and i can already see the progress i can i can already see this good excellent i wish oh wait i can't i haven't started i can already see the progress with the changes i'm making good stuff sarah i love that um injectable e monotherapy i just switched to dr powers as my doctor i taught dr powers voice feminization and as an exchange a service exchange dr powers is going to take care of my hormones so i'm going to switch the powers stuff and we're going to we're going to body hack me and make me as hyper feminine as humanly possible which is what i'm after let's see i'll pop a dollar later thanks you mutsu no problem um i've i was kind of a fanboy too but i just wasn't but it wasn't accepted yeah same here like i was like really fanboy but i like got as close as i could to film boyism without getting bullied because like you know when i even just a decade ago the culture was so much more toxic for gender non-conforming males you know it was so so so toxic and it's becoming a lot less toxic like that can we shout out nick wellington um shout out to nick wellington kelly and savvy yes absolutely i give shout outs to them all the time actually i'mma leak it nick and i are gonna start working together so um that hasn't happened yet we're still in the process of things but um yeah i love i love all those people they're all my homies savvy and kelly are former students of mine and now they're teaching voice feminization and they're doing a great service for the trans community nick and wellington um i've known them both for three years or so they are incredible people um nick is awesome because they have such an incredible perspective on voice in a very holistic and applicable way they have a certain knack for patience i would say and i would say that they are very good at helping people build their basic skills up wellington they also have their strengths and they're they're incredibly incredibly sensitive and patient with their students i think they're awesome i think both of those individuals are wonderful kelly and savvy are both doing wonderful things as well and have their own servers and spaces to help people with voice so yep shout outs to the squad i've been rolling with that squad and talking about voice feminization for a really really long time um let's see i found your channel recently after one of my worst experiences with dysphoria recently i look forward to using your videos to help myself sound more like a girl i look forward to it too and i hope you the absolute best in that a dollar for so much value my goal i would love to make it all free the only reason i pay while my discord honestly is because i get a lot of like creeps and like you know stalkers and i don't think those people want to pay me money you know so it's kind of like a a barrier of entry so that haters can't just join because it was just like free you know if somebody wanted to if some transphobe or bigot wanted to just join my server and just post a bunch of transphobic stuff they could but with like a paywall like five it's kind of like hey like you know you have to really want to be here if you want to be here so um i would eventually like to maybe knock that down to three dollars with time or something like that but it's done a really good job we don't get really trolls we don't get a lot of bigots even though like people have posted my videos on like 4chan and pull and stuff like that so i don't get many bigots coming into my server it's a very safe space for people does your voice go to female by default yeah i'm not thinking at all when i'm talking right now that's the only reason i'm able to talk so fast and talk to everybody uh let's see here um i think someone said they were a crossover and asked about switching back and forth oh yeah you can do that that's definitely doable um we're losing a bunch of weight thinned my voice no has nothing to do with your body weight has to do with your vocal fold mass and even losing weight is not going to change that very much if any if at all actually because it's not fat tissue it's mucosal tissue have you ever used the fretless guitar base no but i play cello i've got a cello back there and no i won't play it for you because it's an instrument i'm still learning and it's a brutal instrument so i'm gonna would shed that for another year and then i'll gladly give you all cello concerts i would like to think i'm okay at it for a beginner um but you know it's pretty screechy if you have a bowing technique bad and my bowing technique is not great yet my friend my left hand technique's pretty good i've got the spacing i'm able to i actually actually play microtona i can actually play micro tonally on my cello it's more so the right hand technique that's hard the right hand technique is is a nightmare on cello let's see here um who'd you go to for your surgeries dr keojampa did my surgery oh there's a question someone asked did hrt help my hairline yes hrt did help my hairline i also took finasteride for three years but then i actually just got a hair transplant so i've got a good hairline now um i got my hair transplant back in march it's actually still growing um and it's it's great so far so i feel much more comfortable that's actually kind of coincides with kind of when i started posting more content and stuff like that uh let's see here oh my hair's all messed up now oh well let's see here um progesterone goes where shh let's see here uh i was an uber fanboy based uber finn boyfriend uh let's see here i felt that the best time so i'm transitioning now for sure uh i wish you the best of luck do you ever plan on doing a video how to get a more feminine singing voice yes absolutely like i said before i've only made like five percent of the content i plan to make like that's why when people are like well how do i okay one of my biggest pet peeves is when people comment on my videos and like see i've used your videos and i don't i don't pass what's wrong like i have made a fraction of what i plan to make you know what i mean i've literally only made as far as i'm concerned i've only made like three four good videos i've only made four good or five good videos you know i've the the art the acoustic video is really good although that's not gonna help people feminize their voice when they first get started that's for more background information the overview video is probably my best video yet it's probably the least watched video i've got out of my big ones the overview video is amazing in terms of information it's not application though the glottal thinness and thickness video that's a really good video and the r1 video is really good all my other videos um my older ones and stuff they have helpful they're more like documentation you know i'm showing that i'm doing this thing um but no um yeah so i'm only just getting started with my content production i have so much other content that i'm about to produce and and in terms of the question you asked about singing voice and feminizing a singing voice video i actually made one in 2018 it's deleted from my channel because i oh oh yeah hear yourself better that's a good one too i forgot about that one honestly my trans voice tech videos are good but i mean like the kind of videos that like i'd knock someone into to try and learn from the ground up you know like a lot of people um yeah the r1 was the that's that video um but yeah i think that also the xy graph for resonance and pitch i think that's a great video too my transvoice tech videos are pretty good the overview video is incredibly good the glottal thinnest thickness is good the r1 video is good how to hear yourself is good the timeline video is good those are my best videos because those are the videos that i feel most proud of uh the lyrics raising video last year i think it's pretty good too but i was i was one month post facial surgery or two months post facial surgery and i look like i have like i don't even know i'm like i have like all this stuff all over my face because it broke my psoria my uh cyborg dermatitis psoriasis out so i've got all this like crust all over my face and i just so i can't even click on that video in fact i just changed the thumbnail to it last night i'm gonna see how that thumbnail performs in an a b test and we'll see if that thumbnail is better or worse i could not look at that thumbnail any longer every time i looked at it it made me want to gag okay uh update called called my dad and he recommends the recording by third coast percussion is gonna set me off the recording you can forward oh my god oceanity that's so cool i literally can't believe that that is literally one of the coolest coolest coolest things ever uh these streams are always fascinating um yes my voice goes feminine by default i already answered that um no double bass there's so many things there's just so many questions and it's hard to scroll down and catch it maybe we can reach hell and we can get through after you collaborate after getting fun way to demonstrate residence oh yeah yeah yeah um resonance isn't my favorite or cello's not my favorite way to demonstrate resonance but cello is a great way to demonstrate the harmonic series because i can get all the way up to like the 21st harmonic on a cello if i'm if i'm bowing really close by the bridge and i'm really really being subtle so that's a great instrument to teach harmonics on um any idea how to fluctuate your voice better for mts mtf trans women sorry my gastro issues okay i assume when you say fluctuate you mean um like pitch if you're trying to learn how to do more feminine pitch mannerisms i recommend making a playlist on youtube of female voices that you like and letting it run in the background not to pay attention to it but so it like starts to bleed into your ears it's kind of like jazz where you kind of want to learn a few common licks or riffs you know like you kind of want to learn like that's like that's like a fundamental lick right so then it's like when you go to then speak it's you kind of riff around it you kind of improvise with it and so you want to like put in a bunch of that into your ears so that you can hear those things and start to like think of them as little gestures and those will start to come out in your voice a lot easier um the fluctuation thing is kind of a difficult thing though it's not difficult um but it's a difficult uh question to answer simply because you know you could be talking about fluctuating something else you could be talking about fluctuating volume you could be talking about fluctuating frequency whatever you know so you can be talking about fluctuating your resonance getting a darker female voice and a bright female voice and learning how to move between them there's a lot of fluctuation that can occur uh how old were you when you started transition i started my transition when i was 24. i started hrt at 24 i came out at 23. when i changed doctors switched that um yeah i love it that's uh good stuff progesterone is pretty awesome oh depot provera that sounds good i've never done an injection but i'm going to switch to injections soon cello's pretty hard and expensive i agree agreed it's the most expensive instrument i own um and it's the instrument i've wanted to learn since i was a child and unfortunately it's also the hardest instrument i've ever tried to learn um i managed to do pretty okay stuff with it i'll probably some of my pieces on my album will have live cello that i've performed but gosh is it not a brutal instrument to play um honestly for me it's just the right hand technique if i pluck it oh my god my intonation my friend it's so good right it's so free but the bowing technique is such a nuanced thing i i still i've been playing cello for about six months and i'm still not comfortable with my bow hold it still feels weird um and i guess that's just how it be you just gotta practice more um i'm gonna i would get a cello teacher if the covid wasn't a thing i don't want to get an online cello teacher because i think i need to be in the same room so i can like look you know so they can like take my hand and like no you know z you gotta do this or whatever right so it's a tough instrument though oh i play double bass double bass i actually found it easier than cello oh i guess that's yeah you've ranked him in like that yeah i i first started on violin not my instrument too shrill too thin too tiny too too squeaky i don't like that instrument um especially violins to me don't sound very good by themselves they really only sound good if there's lots of violins playing in unison so that they get that like phasing effect that's when violence on gorgeous you know i could hear like a first and second violin group in an orchestra just play these beautiful melodies forever and i gladly would um viola that's the other instrument i'll probably learn eventually i've played double bass and cello and violin double bass is so fun i have a double bass back home but i have no idea how to bring it to where i live now you know it's like how do you move a double bass across the country probably just buy a new one okay let's see um but i'm not going to do that for a while let's see when i was close that looks like a payment payment even sebastian are on video so helpful gosh yes lovely younger sister i'm so far behind on questions did ht have a big impact on your productivity yeah i think my productivity went down initially on hrt and then way up uh i feel like when i first transitioned and started hrt i was kind of lost in the oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh it's happening i'm transitioning you know and now it's like yeah yeah whatever you know uh let's see here can't wait to check out your patreon videos because i binge all the ones on here i'm about to upload a new patreon video tonight it's like an hour and a half two hour long uh vocal skills building workshop that goes over a lot of more nuanced quality behavior like the falsehood stuff that everybody i struggle with that's going to be a video i'm coming up about coming out with publicly soon um but there's a good there'll be a good thing there for you on the patron um patreon let's see uh i overwatched i rewatched the overview and got a whole lot out of it yeah i mean i think the overwatch is i think the overview is like the unsung hero of my channel uh it's got like less used in my last like four or five videos or no no it's got less views in like my last three but it's like really good hi do you have any advice okay i read that um and i i talked about that before gosh can i could you get the filters in the lyrics to make the space smaller you mean like physiologically you mean physiologically change the geometry of the vocal tract yeah they do that i believe there's a doctor james thomas in oregon who does pharyngeal placation which is basically where you take a sort of uh where you squeeze the pharynx with an external device basically and that can change resonance a little bit but the thing is we want a proportional shrink down of space so we're looking for a unified shrink down of space it's we're not just trying to go like that and shrink the throat we're really trying to shrink everything and just create a uniformly smaller container um and so that three-dimensional reduction of space is what we're ultimately after and that can be really difficult for people um to do phys like with like physical surgeries that's why the physical surgeries are kind of not that good it takes about six to eight months to really start developing a passing voice sorry you're asking questions i probably got plenty covered plenty of other times i'm relatively new uh it's not like that it's linear i've had students come into my lessons and get a passing voice within the first 30 minutes i've also had students you know that take multiple months to get a passing voice so it just depends i think that most people can develop a passing voice rather in an okay time frame generally speaking i'd say 70 of people there's always going to be a pop a group of the population that struggles more than everyone else though that's just inherent in the way the normalized distribution works we should view voice practice as a normalized distribution of how long it will take us to learn that said though um that said though it's like it's not like that it's non-linear you could okay so here's the thing i could give you a piece of information right now not saying i know what piece of information to give you but say that your stars aligned i could give you a piece of information right now that gets you exactly where you want to be and then from there it's a matter of running with the process and trying to stay on the process you know but then again there could also be something where i give you information and it doesn't it doesn't really get the right thing so it's not really like it's just non-linear there can be a piece that i give you that completes the whole puzzle you could also have several pieces missing and i'd give you the piece and you don't figure out where it fits in the puzzle right and you're having trouble putting it all kind of making a cohesive emergent thing so it's very hard to give just a um do you think there's a voice a difference between voices that get mammed or missed on the phone yeah definitely just the brightness lip spreading will get you missed by the way lip darkening will get you mammed most the time unless your r1 is really bright then you'll get miss there's a lot of things most of us age based uh let's see here or hbase or um or that's what i'm looking for oh gregariousness more gregarious chirpy voices get you miss um kind of more laid-back voices get you ma'am let's see um but yeah so in terms of how long it takes to get a passing voice it's non-linear you know it's not like a mechanical blueprint that you follow to a t and then all of a sudden you get the thing it you can do that but in order to follow the mechanical blueprint really well you have to have control of those things and so actually in voice summarization we're learning how to gain control of some basic things you know we're trying to learn we're trying to learn how to gain control of some basic parameters and then we can do a more like linear okay i do this thing and then i do this thing and i do this thing and stuff um but it's non-linear i've seen people progress super fast and people progress super slow and i progressed fast and slow i had really slow progress and then i had really fast progress and really slow progress and then really fast progress so okay that i spent a while on that question i had a fairly famous voice okay i should start at my dad i should try i probably have my dad i should probably have my dazzle wonderful since i came out that's awesome i'm really glad you hear that uh have you heard of the bazentar no i haven't what synthesizers do you have i've got the mini log i've got the sub 37 this is the um yamaha mx88 i've got the uh um soma labs uh lira 8. i've got a behringer mind six or something four i don't even know what it is six four i barely ever use it um it was actually given to me so i was like sure i'll take it um and then uh i have a mini log and then that's it as far as synthesizers go um my thing is i kind of want other synthesizers but i want them to be micro tonal i think i'm done buying synthesizers that are native to 12 notes because i just don't get as much use out of them since i started getting micro tonal i don't use this as much i still use this like when i'm doing a 12 note equal jam this is my polyphonic synth this is my mono synth and then this is like my like main you know piano synth so i do get a lot of use out of all of them still but i get a lot less use than i would if it was like a luma tone that's micro tonal get yourself a bazantar on google it's like a sitar with a double neck double bass neck i think i will get that uh thoughts on adam neely good content creator i don't have a lot of thoughts on his content because for the most part it's like pretty you know entry-level kind of stuff um to music so i don't really watch his videos often but i think he's a great content creator and i'm really thankful that he's kind of upped the bar for music education on youtube at least music education targeted towards beginners you know so that's like my opinion uh let's see let's what's your band camp here i'll send you my band camp my band camp is this and my patreon is this if you're just joining and you want to support you know anything that i do let's see here um overcoming hey do you think lip reading can change the way you enunciate things yes definitely you shouldn't try to incorporate lip spreading into your voice lip spreading is um kind of a meme there's a lot of like trans voice resource like oh just widen your lips or whatever like that going all the way back like 20 30 years the problem is that when you lip spread it ages you faster watch my cheeks see that crease that's your nasolabial fold and when you lip spread a lot it causes the nasolabial fold to deepen over time we are always going to lip spread a little bit like what for instance when you say the vowel e e e you always lip spread but you don't want to be lip spreading all the time hello there welcome harrogan no um yes i am live do you have time slots left for students um my assistant actually just started booking my next semester of students out of the pool uh so email transvoicelessons gmail.com if you'd like to be added into that pool like i said before the pool's really really large and so i doubt even not only not only not even 10 of the people who are in my pool are going to be able to work with me in this next semester but you won't be forgotten about or anything like that you know we just have so many people it's honestly shocking so i'm hiring a new teacher i'm going to start giving some group lessons i'm going to start doing webinars that are the same content i teach you my lessons but just less personal because you know it's a webinar um i'm trying to meet the demand that i have it's really really impossible though because i'm only one person so let's see here yeah so the lip spreading looks unnatural it doesn't actually give you what you're looking for it doesn't actually brighten your resonance it uncovers your resonance so you need to think about your lips like a global low pass right so say you set your resonance here and then you open up that low pass to you you might think it sounds bright i did that inverted here we go so like say your residence is here and you no i'm doing it backwards it's hard to do because i'm looking at a stream inverted okay but basically your lips act like a low-pass filter so when you widen your lips it's not really making your resonances brighter your resonances are basically staying the same but what you're doing is you're simply unfiltering more of that sound mass that's actually inside your body right like that spectral content so we don't want to spread our lips very much um in fact one of the things that i recommend to everybody here who's practicing resonance or practicing their film voice learn to do your fin voice and learn to do your resonance with your lips in all positions part so like um you really want to be able to do like dark lip shapes like this you can still hear that i sound female and i sound possible and stuff like that even with my lips out that's because your lips don't actually have anything to do with your possibility uh your lips have to do with more of a global filter that your voice occupies right so like if i start to change my global filter you'll hear i get brighter right but but that's not what we're looking for we're looking for the thing that's um coming from r1 rather than the thing that's coming from this global filter um good okay okay okay okay there's so many things i'm going to skip a bunch of questions because i want to catch back up to the live thank you everyone for joining thank you everyone for the support it really means so much and i'm really glad that i can help everybody let's see do you watch adam newly videos no i read that okay uh opinions on enslaving cat girls i don't think i'm supposed to give that opinion in public okay uh okay do you have time to sell those for students i already answered that hello everyone oh god uh that's a funny question um let's see here if you know me personally uh is that a personal um meme i think that was a personal meme right just like that that seems like a personal question uh let's see thank you god i always felt like whispering made me sound funky yeah because you shouldn't wanna you shouldn't want a lip spread the problem is that the lip spread wants to go when you change your residence because your body's trying to tune the whole system and so it makes sense like if i'm boosting resonance i'm creating all this more active spectral content in the middle up middle upper range why don't i also unleash that content more right it's like that but you should view it as a post filter let's see here um there's that time to crash thanks so much tom it's been great seeing you great seeing you and ellen thank you i really appreciate that thanks for our insightful inspiring conversations as always um and i can't wait to see what you do with your awesome new microtunnel instruments uh thank you answered that right probably should have stayed an hour longer than i should oh heat from fire thank you so much for being here have a great rest of your night and sleep well yeah it was my goal to start this stream earlier at like noon my time so my european friends could join us and everything um i got started a little later than i anticipated just because my gastro autoimmune issues sort of delayed my morning a little bit so but i'm glad to say that my stomach doesn't hurt i'm not i'm not in pain right now i feel really good so um luckily i think i'm healthy right now okay i think i'm all cut up in comments ah we did it folks folks we did it i'm all caught up in comments now let me refresh the page uh i bet when i refresh the page oh yeah okay so the comments were actually frozen okay there we go heat from fire hey france has nothing hrt okay now i'm gonna go get my fujara again so it's been about two and a half hours since i brought this out one second okay here we are [Music] so it's so interesting how you can [Music] for those of you who are new to the stream this is a gigantic seven foot long harmonic flute it basically is the size of my ceiling and in order to play it i have to uh i can't stand and play it at the same time in my room i have to be sitting to play this or i have to go outside to play it uh but it is an incredible incredible beauty you can't pog champion youtube thank you pogchamps in chat post the pogchamps in chat do it [Music] those are those beautiful harmonics poggers that's what i like to see i need to see the whole chat spam with pog champs i love the outfit i wish i had better clothes oh thanks this is just like you know it's like my uh it's summer okay let's see um i'll wish that you have better clothes too my support goes out to you and if you ever need fashion advice on the server we've got witches wardrobes which is robes on the server it's a fashion channel that we talk about stuff in sometimes um yo what an instrument thank you it's called the fuyara i really like your shorts where do you get yours these shorts are from h m holy holy pogers holy poggers oh look at the chat everybody my proudest moment so far as a content creator when i show oh nick welcome nick i talked about you earlier i i i was talking about your wonderful strengths and i talked about you welly saving kelly the squad and i talked about strengths and stuff because people were asking about you all [Music] ooh that's hard oh that's fun pog talking crap about you you betcha nick always always always always it's dom how do you spell fuyara it's spelled with a j you got it really close dom it's just this instead your community is the coolest i completely agree that's why i was surprised dude we had two trolls today trolls can get out you know what i'm saying like my community is so positive my community is full of incredibly awesome people it has nothing to do with me it's just there's amazing people in this chat right now and to bring that negative energy in here is just so you know get that out of here so let me see here yeah i'll bring the spectrogram up for you again hold on one second there's that let me get that there here we go [Music] [Applause] [Music] so [Music] one second let me bring this oh sorry i was muted so i dropped the mouthpiece and since i'm legally blind i actually can't see the floor so i have to get down on my hands and knees to like find my mouthpiece hold on one second i'll find this and play more ah i can't see anything i'll tell you what in case you guys didn't want to know in case you guys didn't know having terrible vision is awful like awful awful vision i can't see anything ugh i want to play more for yara hmm i'll have to wait until i can i guess i can't play anymore for yara i'd have to wait until someone can come and see for me i'd have to get a roommate to use their eyes for me because my eyes are too bad it's a mouthpiece this big i can't even find it on the floor that's how bad my eyes are god darn it i was having so much fun too [Music] yeah i've considered lasik let's see what this looks like on a spectrogram oh phone camera good idea nick let me try that i do that when i'm in when i'm ordering food in restaurants and stuff before covet at least let's see do you know how pathetic it is being a living organism that has to rely on their camera to see things [Music] yes this is called a water phone because you pour water in it to modulate [Music] you can also do like a lot of and you hit it with your phone you bet [Music] i wish i had a better bow gosh where did my mouthpiece go this is so bad i was genuinely having so much fun playing it for you all it was such a good thing oh i i just don't have the eyes to find it i'm sorry i don't have good enough eyes what a shame what a shame shame shame that is let's see i would do any huh it couldn't have gone far i just dropped it on the ground it's just gone you know sometimes i get in fits of rage when i can't see and so you know there's just many times where i want to see stuff and i just can't and it's just really frustrating can you drive not without vision correction i don't drive actually i don't own a car i have no interest in owning a car although i'm going to be buying one soon-ish because i'm moving soon-ish and in order to do that i kind of need a car so i hate driving um i can't see anything but maybe that's why my ears are so good let's see uh legally blind yeah i'm like right next to legal blindness uh technically the last time i went to a eye doctor they said i was legally blind but then i looked at my prescription against what they told me and it didn't look like i was i don't know it's weird i've gotten mixed information one eye doctor told me i was and another eye doctor told me i wasn't so i'm not really sure but i'm 20 to 40 or 20 to 60. so that means in order for me to see something how other people with 20 20 see it it has to be blown up like 13 times so what you can see at what you can see at basically 20 or what you can see at 260 feet i can only see it 20 feet that's what 2260 means so i basically am running on a negative 13 magnification with my life in my eyes let's see very motivated give me three years kill it why do you have so many amazing instruments do you have a jaw harp i don't have a jaw heart but i've got this hold on i have so many amazing unique instruments cause i worship sound and i collect sounds and that's why i do voice stuff because it's really a collection of sounds that i can create with my own body um do you know i have contacts or glasses not with me right now i lost my glasses i really want to play fuyara though that's what i want to do right now um okay so here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna go turn my fan on since i'm not playing music for a second i'm gonna go turn my fan on so i'm less sweaty and hot and then i'm gonna look for the fujara mouthpiece and then i i don't have i have a jaw harp somewhere in the house it's maybe downstairs i'd have to get it off the instrument bench but i do have something in my room i can show you which is called a cosmic bow one second okay so this is a this is an eight string instrument that you can tune however you want i don't have a tune right now but you resonate it with your mouth so you basically eat this part and you it's the same as a jaw heart but only it's eight strings i'm i would play it for you but i don't feel like tuning it right now because i like i don't know last time i was playing with this i had it in a i had it in a really really weird harmonic tuning and it's nowhere close to that right now so there's that um and then let me go and find let me find this mouthpiece hold on i'm moving my school okay i don't understand i found it yay i found it i got it i went to the like hardest place it went for me it went in the one place that i wouldn't be able to see even people with good eyes wouldn't be able to see that so let alone me now i was about to pull my spectrogram okay i was about to pull up the spectrogram i'm going to sit back ooh the fan's oh this is gonna be great i know i have to turn the fan back off oh let's see so there's that i've got the spectral glam on um 2d mode if i move it over there okay so that's good now let me go turn the fan off okay so there's that fan is back off so i'm sweating to death for you all look at the the the pain i go through to bring you all high quality sound experiences okay so there's that fuyara pop this in there what program is that with the 3d spec uh it's it's isotope ozone five i wish that were is really i'm totally off my right ear oh that's that's unfortunate a limited range of colors kate um i'm i think there's actually someone else i saw posting in here who also has hearing impairment and we've been able to do some voice feminization together i have a i have a perspective that we can sort of manipulate the input values or at least teach people how to meta process their limited input values in order to create more meaningful interpretations of something um so that that's definitely unfortunate and i think i think that you could probably find ways to adapt and find strengths and and maybe find actual benefits out of that um really um even though it is sort of an impairment let's see let's see so there's that you want to stop by oh hannah you want to stop mine thank you for helping me find your voice i'm so glad i'm so thankful that i was able to help you thank you so much for being here 37 keys can it gent ugh what kind of mic do you use i use a c214 akg it's really good really i love this mic um it sounds great up close but most the time when i film you know i get a video sometimes like oh your voice is so shrill well that's because when i'm talking in my videos i'm like this far away from my microphone yelling but like when it's actually like up close or whatever it sounds amazing okay so there's that and then here we go so there's that questions questions stop by thank you meta process your limited input yes exactly minnie absolutely um i think meta-processing and learning how to read because it's like if someone has vision impairment or someone has an impairment of some sorts they still get information the information is just filtered and so you can actually like work with someone to help like reverse that filter and learn to kind of understand it or how come you didn't come up in orange and it's like sensor so ship you can't miss it because you don't know what you're missing oh let's see here the only people i sense on this channel are trolls if you say anything negative you're getting censored unless it's like a legitimate like i did something on stream that was like negative and like people are like whoa see then i'm not censoring anybody but if someone comes in here and like says a bunch of like negative stuff you're just getting muted i don't even care i'm not trying to play that game let's see i just want to stop by uh when adjusting your r1 does your larynx cramp up no it doesn't does your muscle not contract at all uh well there's lots of muscles they're not just one there's not one muscle that raises your larynx there's a lot of muscles um and they contract sure but you shouldn't feel a cramping and you shouldn't really feel like you're working hard um okay zs csmr hello part per okay can you guys hear me um so like this is like my smart kind of voice is this like okay for you all or like do you think i like need to go up any louder so part one two three four five six seven hello so um this is like what you're seeking when you do like an asmr kind of thing okay there's my asmr for you [Music] now back to the fuyara with spectrogram [Music] searching for our two exercises uh the only place i've published are two exercises are on my patreon uh back in uh january i did a workshop where i talked a lot about different r2 behaviors and some consonant stuff i think last year i did workshops on r2 as well i'll be making a video on those topics eventually it's just i consider that to be a little bit more cosmetic so i'm trying to like lay the ground floor with my content first you know what i mean um uh what's the best retro feminization app dom it just depends i like the one i'm using now um there's a bunch of them they all kind of do the same thing uh let's see here i want to stop by i thank you okay i read that how do you come up with an orange oh it's like okay i already read that let's see what's wrong okay i already read that okay well sorry about that um oh yeah yeah when you get added it's it's uh it it highlights it uh that's ridiculously good you have a great asmr voice thank you you got asmr tingles wow you guys like that you guys like asmr do i need to make an asmr video would you guys watch that if i made like asmr voice something i don't even know what would you guys want me to give you a lesson i could give you a lesson and i'm just afraid that i don't want to make it i don't want to make a good voice lesson in asmr because i'm afraid that there are people who won't watch it because it's asmr you know whereas i want like the voice lessons to be as accessible as possible but if you guys are like all down into part so i'm like speaking okay so so if there's like this kind of voice like all over here per pop pool [Music] truck and of course you all what the is this instrument uh this instrument is called a fuyara i've demonstrated a few times but i'll just go ahead and show it for the newcomers this is um it's a seven foot long flute it's bigger than my ceiling uh it was about the size of my ceiling got me kicking my chair back to groove hell yeah i love this thing it's a purely harmonic instrument and you know i'm all about hormone series so uh it works for me quite well how do i raise my asmr one to feminize my voice well nick you've came to the right place i just want you to clinch as hard as you can like down there right down there and then get really quiet and try to sound cute congratulations you now have the angle okay i have to say that was parody just so like you know i don't have lurkers who are like oh my god what terrible it's a joke it's a meme okay let's see here uh look at how many how many lines are there ah well harmonics are theoretically infinite in physical systems they have a lot of limitations though so it depends i mean this instrument [Music] [Laughter] [Music] that sounds like the 21st harmonic to me could be wrong 20 21st or 23rd i bet if you counted it you could probably find it but remember what you see on the spectrogram is actually starting on the second harmonic you don't hear the fundamental on the fuyara the fundamental is the tube length and then the first note i'm playing this note here that's half the length of this tube right so the actual fundamental frequency that the pipe creates is like the everything you don't get to hear that i can maybe bring it out for you you have to use very little air in fact it's almost impossible to hear and at that point look my room noise is actually louder this laptop here my laptop fan sorry you guys can hear that um this laptop's actually almost making more noise than the fjrs fundamentals so because when you play the fujiara you're playing an overtone instrument so you don't really play the fundamentals you play the harmonics of it and that's where you make the music with the instrument um and for the people who are supporting you and getting a little bit extra can't expect everything to be tailored for them yeah i know right i mean i do my best it's really hard because there's so many people but i i really do my absolute best every day that's all i can say let's see how many of those harmonics how many of those were all hormones yeah they're amazing do you do 30 minute classes uh i do i have consults my consults go anywhere like 25ish minutes and um they're not like lessons but you know if you're like a person who's been practicing their voice and you feel stuck with your voice and you're like i'm sure if i could just talk to z for a few minutes that she could point me in the right direction i'd recommend a consult consoles i have more availability than with lessons so people who book consoles like if you go and you email and you book a console you can probably get in like the next like three weeks because i sort of keep those i do a lot of consults on like console only days you know um and so those are easier to get me with than lessons um and i feel like my consults are super super valuable so i don't really think it's like a you know it's like a just a bad like a small lesson or anything it's like i i really do my best to assess where a person's at give them strategies to find their way out and often i'll give resources at the end of consults although i don't guarantee that it just depends on what comes up during the console uh let's see here oh the secrets clenching see can you demonstrate really higher one techniques uh yeah i can here in a second i wanna play a little bit more hard to get lessons with me very busy yeah i know it sucks i mean it doesn't suck that i'm busy because it's like cool for me and stuff but like it's like uh sucks for my students um i wish i had more availability luckily there's somebody in chat who can help you with that too uh let's see here so uh it's gonna be very hard can you sing opera using your female voice also on the server there's a lot of really smart people on my server with voice and so if you just need general feedback you can probably get it from my server honestly um let's see here uh let's see i think my voice passes should i get a voice coach just to strengthen it a little bit more uh if you think your voice passes come see me for a consult and i'll uh in 20 minutes i'll give you something else to go in a direction on that's what i'd recommend otherwise yeah you can go and get a voice coach if you think your voice already here's what i've learned though the majority of the voice feminization educators out there um if your voice already passes they don't really have much else for you you know what i mean like those most people teaching it like are teaching people how to pass basically because that's like the bare the bare minimum level um but like since i've been doing this for so long and i i'm i can teach you how to pass and aesthetically customize your voice however you want you do multiple different film voice qualities and stuff so it just depends i think that's kind of the limitation that a lot of the teachers are at right now is that you can learn how to teach the field and you can learn how to teach the stuff but there's a lived experiential experience that only comes with time that you literally just have to put hours in i mean i teach i teach about a thousand two hundred voice lessons a year and i've been doing that for about three years so at this point you know i've got like four thousand five thousand hours of teaching trans voice with live human beings and that's not to count the hundreds and thousands of hours i have in my own voice of practice like you can see from my timeline right so i think that there's that level of it that you can't teach and so i think that's where the teacher dilemma comes in because there's like you know i can teach people how to teach my method and stuff but like you know it's just one of those things where it's like if they want to go further they have to just do it kind of on their own yeah my patreon server is um is as a paywall i pay wallet so that creepy stalkers and doctors from youtube can't get me because there's a lot of transphobes and my videos get posted on like uh like alt-right places like like a poll and you know like storm front and stuff like that so uh i just want to make sure that my community is safe and it's a pay paywall for people don't come in and harass people honestly i would like to lower it but it's been a pretty effective paywall and you know it also makes me money which is okay because i'm trying to like live and stuff so but that's the main reason why the paywall is there honestly because i feel like if it were free you know like i see those twitch do i see those twitch discord servers that are like everywhere anyone can come in those places are like cesspools and in fact they end up disabling the chats so that you can't actually post it's just like you know an alert server so it's like [Music] it's so hard to fret this thing look at how oh yeah i know xavier just those people in general those people see my content all the time and they're like uh heresy uh it's against nature and then they post my content around it's free clicks i don't care the only reason i know that people come for my videos from there is because my uh if i look at my like my traffic data you know like my um what's that called uh where my links are posted or whatever there's like that i've been posting on some other places too that are kind of cancer so um that's why i have to have that let's see if there's a lot of vulnerable trans people in my space that i created um who are learning their voice yeah when i look at my analytics um there's a lot of vulnerable trans people in my community and i refuse to let trans folks like you know what i mean if anyone's even remotely transphobic you're done so you get out of my server you're not welcome you know um i'm not trying to like you know yeah i'm not trying to like be the woke centrist like everybody can express their opinions here you're welcome to express your hot takes and stuff on the server but if it has anything to do with transphobia you're just gone you know no hot takes i have a hard hard hard limit on that so transphobia is there a way i can donate for others to get free lessons yes actually we have a trans voice youth fund that um my assistant and i take care of you can email kylie at that and just put transvoice youth fund in the subject header and if anybody wants to donate money to transvoice these lessons it just gets stashed in a savings account and then when miners write to me we take on miners that are in need so if there's a minor in there like being oppressed by their family or oppressed by their system or whatever then we will take them on as students and i'll see them as best i can so uh so we do have a transvoice youth program obviously if there's youths who are like supported by their parents like we'll still take them but like you know it's for people who have no support and who are who are kids who are stuck and they really need to change their voice so that's what that that fund is for but yeah if you want to contribute to that just reach out to my assistant kylie since when uh we've had that for about six months there was somebody um there was somebody who donated a large sum and that's how the fun got started um there's there's like there's like probably five or six more lessons for miners in the fund right now which is really really awesome stuff it's actually one of my favorite things to do [Music] so that's interesting in harmonic thing because i like only plugged one hole so it's like how do you find the higher harmonics well on this you find the higher harmonics with greater breath pressure or different embouchure that gets higher harmonics so like to go to go like this all i'm going is and it changes the harmonics [Music] oh you see how i can like pitch bend that it's crazy uh let's see questions uh funny how even whoo i'm not crying you're crying oh that's sweet whenever i see reactor shut down scream uh i run an ak lgbt server i think that pay wong is definitely an effective system but also a gatekeeper system i agree active moderation team we didn't even have moderation until two months ago so it's been uh i'm actually anti-moderation i'm anti-censorship i'm anti-like centralization anti-authority i'm a bit of a you know i just want to kind of be left alone i hate authority so it's actually really hard for me to have a server where i'm supposed to be like the authority figure and only that but then i'm supposed to imbue authority on others it's just fundamentally against what i'm morally for so it's very difficult um yeah so let's see let's see i'm curious [Music] he's peeking as someone who runs a 30 uh is he's peeking and someone yeah um for sure someone who owns a it's just yeah i don't know it's scary i don't really want to open that door i mean my videos are free on youtube and i'll be making you know everything that i have is like premium content eventually will be made into free resources on my youtube so it's not like i'm like gating people from information or anything like that um in fact you know i i definitely have the highest production voice resources like on the internet period so um and i'll still continue to do that and make as much as i possibly can for free and that's that's really my goal with this and i'll probably release my book for free too whenever it's finished or at least i'll release it for free in our trans community but then i'll like sell it in like the slp communities and like sell it and like you know those communities uh what you doing don't know how i got here but i'm fine with it i'm playing uh i'm playing a fuyara and i'm taking questions a book yes i've been working on a transvoice book for like two years i've started it i've started it finished it started it finished it started it scrapped it scrapped it scrapped it scrapped it i did it a bunch um but now i'm i'm redrafting it so i has is it done will it have diagrams oh yeah it's kind of spectrogram my goal is i'm not going to publish the book until i get mri data of everything i'm talking about so my goal is to have like you know the instructions about the thing the text description the sound text description the spectrogram view and the mri view so like you know this particular posture creates this particular output i've been working on it for a really long time i'm not going to release it early i'm not going to like rush it i at this point i've already been spending so much i put so much time into it that like i've re i've redrafted it three or four times i just my whole model changes every couple months and so you know i end up with this big new change in the way i view everything and then all of a sudden i have to go back over and change everything and um it's just wild why are you such a nice interesting person thanks um i don't know i don't really see a point in hurting people that's kind of honestly that's why i get super snappy at the negative people in in these in these chats like i just don't have time for that you know what i mean like we're all we're all going to die there's no point to be negative let's just we have a very limited time on this earth let's just do all the fun things all the enjoyable things let's spread joy let's spread peace let's spread good vibes there's just no point in anything else than that i've been waiting to set a voice console since quarantine um are there any openings left yes for consoles there are like almost always openings we kind of booked them as like a separate thing than lessons on separate day so consults usually get in a lot sooner so lessons you kind of have to wait longer consults get in sooner let's see um just because i can do like eight consults in one day or nine consults in one day and that is not too bad for me to do in terms of work um that's a big sopt straw you have there oh my god that's such a good comment what wait is he remove that from my message above sure sure i will i remember i removed it nick there you go this is your first time catching a stream hello harriet welcome it's great to have you here uh don't know how i got here but you're fine with it well i'm fine with it too welcome it's great to have you here cyan welcome oh cyan is by the way cyan and chat is one of my biggest supporters ever you can basically give a direct thank you to cyan for my content because they support me uh she is amazing and she supports me in such a profound way that it allows me to create all this i so yeah definitely definitely shout outs to definitely shout outs to her um she's a divine patron uh let's see we'll have diagrams yes you can use the money yeah that's a good point sarah that's how i feel huh um you've loved being here thanks andrea i have a great rest of your night will it be a hardback i would like to get a printed hardback yeah my priority is to disseminate the information and a hardback kind of has a very strict process of getting published and everything so yeah i think eventually there'll be a hardback on my book but um for the trans community i'm just going to release it uh you digitally because i want people to just have the information you know what i think of jacob collier i think he's a very good musician i think he's a wonderful musician i think he's a little immature musically he's he's um you know he's maturing still and he's getting better all the time so that's my opinions on him i i will say another opinion on jacob collier people often cite him as like the micro tonal person or whatever like his micro tonality is very very tame you know modulating with syntonic commas is something that people have been doing for like 60 70 it's really not that crazy of a topic but then you see like all these youtube videos you're like whoa jacob caller does this crazy thing like you know drifting up two cents off your fifth each time until you add like 20 for a syntonic comma so you have a two major third that's like really not that wild of stuff you know quarter tones not that wild of stuff so i think he's a great musician i think some of his solo works are a little immature i think he's i think he's getting way better as time goes on and i think his micro tonal stuff's a bit tame i would love to see him experiment with some deeper micro tonality and really get into like more nuanced territory there um so i'll be looking forward to when he does that but i like his music generally speaking uh bass and transpiled yes definitely uh where is that instrument from this instrument is from slovakia uh this was created by a slovakian flute maker jacob sarai saray i don't know the prince's name uh this was a handmade instrument for me based on what i ordered i ordered um a six six foot nine inch uh fuyara it's in e it's an e2 and um the holes are spaced a little shorter so that uh my tiny little hands can play them so in order to play it that i have to do this to play it i have to like do that with my first two fingers and then this third finger down there and that's kind of why it's hard to like move around really agile on this instrument just because it's so gigantic [Music] foreign [Music] okay let's see here mris and magnetic resonance imaging yes exactly so my book will have mri slides for each of the resonance slides like when i'm talking about specific resonance positions i'm going to be talking about those specific resonance positions as one uh a description of how to find them for for voices um a pedagogical description of them a muscular description of them which describes the anatomy and how the anatomy is moving i'll have spectrogram expressions of that position being acquired from a certain neutral position and then i'll have an mri slide of that particular posture so we can be basically like oh so in this mri slide here posture this express it affects the um thing do you have a process for maintaining mental energy and avoiding burnout uh spirituality i'm i'm supercharged by music so i don't really get burnt out on sound i get burnt out on everything that's not sound so like anything other than sound i don't have the mental you know an infinite awareness for it's specifically sound for me what kind of exercise to reverse engineer muscles when coming from a heavy metal background that's a good question reverse engineering your proprioception which is what it feels like when you like do things reverse engineering proprioception is really fundamental for voice feminization it's really as simple as interrogate yourself you know really try to interrogate yourself and describe it in certain ways that make sense to you or don't make sense to you um and the whole the whole goal is to try and go through these i think jacob collier is playing with michael connell i don't think he's doing it i don't think he's playing with michael tonally that way to i don't think he limits his harmonic vocabulary to make his music more accessible i think that he wants to create accessible music and i want to create accessible music i just think that he hasn't really like dove like super deep into micro tonality you know he's got into like five limit harmony seven limit harmony um i've never heard him using eleventh harmonic in his music yet and i really would love love love to hear that do you believe that all reality can be expressed via sonic waves is that what reality is um no but i believe all reality can be expressed by some degree of relationships and systems moving and systems moving uh create certain relationships um and systems that move in periodicity create certain harmonic relationships and so i think that the harmonic series is sort of um it's kind of like a fundamental okay the harmonic series to me is not actually that cool it's what it really stands for that's cool so like it's almost like a shadow on a wall like to me the harmonic series is is basically um like a down projection so it's like if i take a 3d object and i down project it on a two-dimensional surface we see this flat object of a three-dimensional object you know and to me the harmonic series is like a down projection of some really really crazy stuff that our universe is built on you know like i don't think we can actually like directly observe like the fundamental like blueprint of our universe but i think that the way the harmonic series works is an expression of that fundamental blueprint showing itself to our limited sensory window you know yeah it's like some cosmic fractal stuff exactly and you know it's interesting too because you know there's people talk about the big bang and then heat death that itself is a cycle if we if we think of the big bang as the initial up for the wave and then the peak when when um total distribution of the energy and then the energy starts to then recompress through entropy we think of that as the peak of the wave then it comes all the way down to the trough where the universe re-collapses back down we end up in heat death where everything is this amorphous low entropy uh state where everything is just equal like sort of um well i mean the harmonic series interesting on its own i mean i worship it it's literally my deity so i i mean i just meant to try and drive the point home to people that it's interesting on its own like this instrument [Music] i agree the harmonic series is interesting on its own otherwise i wouldn't have this instrument but it's like to me it represents and reflects like a greater cosmic system that we can't really directly observe we get to like observe this little fractal snapshot of it and it's just like just a tiny little piece of the puzzle you know and yes that piece of the puzzle is incredibly beautiful and profound but it's just a small fragment of like this bigger system you know and that's what is so inspiring to me about it and so beautiful to me about it um let's see here um so is z a sound clerk yeah definitely um i'm just kind of like a conduit oh i was going to do this um let's see here so let me get this set up as a spiritual person you love this discussion i'm profoundly spiritual i know i say that a lot but it's just cause like i feel like sometimes when i say it people think i'm joking and then people like make them make memes about it and stuff like i i yeah you can't express what i've learned about spirituality is you can't express it in words so no matter how much you try to like talk about what it means to you you can't ever you know you can't ever describe what that means to you um so i can only try to express it and not even try i don't know it's a hard thing so let's see here let me get this for us so we do have a church it's on my server hold on okay hold on let me set this up right so [Music] hmm [Music] so [Music] so [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] hmm [Music] oh [Music] [Applause] [Music] oh wait what are you saying there's delay hello you can hear me now right okay i had to mute the other thing because there was like delay so it was hard for me to talk and do stuff um do i have a religion am i no i like to joke and say i'm a spectralist i'm a harmonist you know um i worship harmony i i genuinely do i i keep saying that but it's because like i'm serious you know um so i really love harmony and um that's why i worship spectralist you know there's actually a movement of spectralists which are like a music composition movement or whatever um a theory movement or whatever so um but yeah i'd say something like that or whatever uh let's see so your voice journeys got me but what the heck you're really interested in thank you kara um much appreciated um i'm just uh just a sound person you know just all i do let's see um call of the harmonic good vibes ooh i like that it sounds like a meticulously synthesized atmosphere it's nuts i agree it is such a beautiful beautiful instrument sorry if i came across as aggressive no worries kate i understand and i also understand when people ask voice organization questions sometimes they get have that aggressive vibe but it's just because it really impacts their life a lot you know so i totally understand um it's cool voice feminization is a very serious thing you know you can hear me right yeah we're good right we're good okay well i started muted i'm muted chat has their earpods in [Music] let me scroll down and find chat on my laptop again sandwich how do i book consults and lessons you email transvoiceless gmail.com like i already said before just i have to be really transparent about this i have like a 1300 person wait list right now it's not like a waitlist we're not doing it like a list you know it's like we have a pool and we're gonna ping it first come first serve we'll also go to we'll also go chronologically through the list and consider people that way too there's just no good way to start that list you know what i mean this is no good way so um there's a tremendous amount of people but consults you can get in with a lot quicker um just email transvoicelessons gmail.com i know sarah i get like 50 people a day emailing me 25 50 10 sometimes on the slow days when i release a video it's a swarm so it's a constantly building pool which is cool but i can see in order to teach all the people that are in my pool right now uh it would take me like it'd take me like five years to work through everybody want you know like every single person who's already sent me so um but it's worth sending an email because you never know you might just get an email back you might be able to reply earlier than other someone else or it's you know it's there's no good way to do it so instead i'm hiring a new teacher um i've actually been training someone or i should say i've started talking with someone and starting to work with someone on that so i've got a new teacher coming on and then i also i'm going to start giving webinars which will have the same and that's the other reason why you might want to still add into the pool even if you're not like good to wait for lessons you know because if you don't want to wait for lessons eventually i'm going to be giving webinars which are like open population 512 maximum capacity online like high quality webinars um and i'll be teaching the same stuff i teach in lessons you know it's not like it's different you'll just get less like personalized feedback you know um consults though are the best way for people to reach me in the shortest amount of time um i also do patreon feedback so if you want feedback on your voice i've got a patron tier available for that too um now i i'm also overwhelmed with patron feedback i try i say i try to get it done in a week but it usually takes me about two or three weeks to get through feedback just because there's so many people um and i do as much as i can um but just be aware of that when you go to do feedback that way if you choose to do it that way um it's crazy i can't believe the the thing so i don't know it turns out if you really love sound and you really like dedicate yourself to something completely pure the world thinks that's cool so that's cool for me you guys can think this is cool this is my normal day you know i'm trying to get higher than that that's why i keep going up there because i want to see if i can't get some like ultra high harmonic stuff you know it's been about 30 or 45 minutes since i posted my patreon server so let me just go ahead and post my patreon here this link is my patreon i've got lots of content on there i've got workshops available that are like three hours i've got different audio samples of working with different students during workshops i've got videos on there that aren't on youtube i've got other stuff on there i've got some articles that aren't on youtube i'm actually about to post a new article and a new video today i've got two and i've got an hour and a half two hour long uh skills workshop i'm about to upload to patreon i also have a article that i'm about to release on patreon that i published on my server first called the nature of r1 so for people who are confused about that stuff that would be a good place there i'm still going to um baby trans i need the most help practicing with feedback for sure what are the differences between the consults and lessons what are consults so here's the thing if your voice is already like okay i'll just use the consult like a mini lesson you know the way that my consults are priced they're priced like as they're like less in time so if someone comes in and they're like have a good voice and i start to do the consult and i'm like oh i can just give this person something and they'll do better we just do that you know what i mean um but typically speaking for people who are taking a lot of lessons with me or are booking lessons with me consults are a way for me to get a good assessment of the student that don't cut out of their first lesson time so the first lesson you know since i have a limited availability the consult can help make it so the first lesson is all about you know we're getting straight on the topic and instead the or the first lesson can be all about like getting on the topic whereas the console i can like sort of listen to someone's voice and do an assessment of their neuromuscular coordinations that they have um do an assessment of their understanding of the subject take notes on them kind of build up a blueprint consults also help me give a good uh suggestion for how many lessons i think someone might need so if someone's like you know i really want to work with you i don't know how much i'll need they'll take a console like you know based on this like i think i could get you to be self-sustainable after four lessons or two lessons or six lessons and then they'll typically go that path so um that's the difference between consults and lessons consults are lessons are an hour my consults are about they're technically billed for 20 minutes but i always go 25 30. i don't know i have trouble cutting off at the mark you know like all my like my students can say like my lessons are an hour but i'm sure there's someone lurking who's got who's who snuck an hour and 15 minute lesson out of me um and then put me late to my next lesson but um i really genuinely care so much about making sure the student understands the concept before i leave so if a student feel if i feel like a student doesn't understand what's happening before they go i won't let them leave you know what i mean i'll like say hey do you have anything after this do you mind if we sit and talk a little longer i want to make sure that you understand this and then i go over it which is terrible terrible business practice but i don't care it's the moral and ethical thing to do so that's why i do it uh let's see here my assistant gets on me about the whole time you got to cut your lessons you need to you need to be out you need to be more punctual yeah i know i know i do but it's so hard yes the stream so far has been long enough for the ss minnow to get lost that's true i haven't eaten a single bite of food all day it's about time to eat my gastro autoimmune issues are okay today so i think i'm going to do another soft day of food i think i'll probably eat some soft fruits some peanut and crackers that's about all i can eat oh my god your business is our anti-capitalism shaking my head yeah i mean it's true i mean i've got some anti-capitalist stuff in my business but at the same time you know a business is capitalist so i've got capitalist things and non-capitalist things as my practice i try to be an ethical and ethical money maker you know what i mean like that's like my number one goal to be ethical with all this i think there's a really weird line when you start to deal with trans voice where it can quickly become unethical like if the information you're giving is not amazing i think it's kind of unethical i think that if you are if you don't really know what you're doing and you know that it's unethical i think if you don't have a very decent or like a really i don't think if you have a strong voice to begin with it's kind of unethical to teach the concept maybe not ethical in that case um but yeah i agree uh there's so it's really weird to do this because in my opinion this is not like a a non-essential service i view i view trans voice like a very essential need for the trans community you know i think facial surgery should be covered by insurance for trans for trans care i think hrt should be covered by insurance and so i also think that voice counts is like a medical need you know and i'm not a medical person so don't don't view me i'm not i'm not qualified to give health advice i'm not a health person but um i do think that it's it crosses a weird line where it's not just like hey this is a cool thing that everybody wants to do it's like no this is a thing that our community really really needs and so i'm really sensitive to that and honestly it's it's been hard like you know i first started doing this for like ten dollars an hour or something like that um like i did like a pay what you want for a little bit ten and then like uh 15 and like 20 and i really try to keep it but at the point where you have 1300 people you have to raise your rates it's just that simple let's see um we need more people like this yeah i used to be working around i feel the same way it can be a burden to be as empathetic i agree and honestly it's not good for my health either because since i have these gastro autoimmune issues i have to like i have to make sure that i go to the bathroom between each lesson just to make sure that i'm not going to feel pain or anything like that at least that's been recently the new thing you know yeah listen i don't charge that anymore i charge a lot more than that my i'll tell you right now i'm probably the most expensive trans voice person but i also have the biggest wait list and i have no availability in terms of like you know just email me i'll get you on the calendar it's like you have to really kind of get in so um how would you recommend the latter be brought down to newer teachers see that's the thing it's such an experiential journey um i'm training new teachers and i'm always teaching and there's teachers on my server and um so hopefully that can help but it's just one of those things that you got to live you know like for instance i could teach a cis i could teach a cis or someone okay i could teach someone who has a good female voice right if someone has a great female voice but it's not normalized they have like good skills and they'll be a good teacher but they've lost a lot of what it is to normalize like the process of going through your life and going up to a cashier and feeling completely frozen and covered by anxiety and then working through that that's part of trans voice and that's the part that you just cannot teach people you know it doesn't matter what words or what language i say it just doesn't effectively teach people how to do that so um that's the kind of thing that like you know i could teach voice people all day and teach teachers but like until they live that experience it's really really hard any tips on sounding too nasal um grab a mirror grab a flashlight look at the back of your mouth and try to create this kind of thing gain awareness and control over this little thing hold on okay here we go watch i'm all sweaty okay watch this my this is what controls how nasal you are you see that thing that's twitching back there yeah that's my villain or my soft palate and when it's lower you'll be nasal and when it's up and closed you'll have no nasal so watch if i have nasality if i have no nasality okay so you should try to gain control of that it's not your uvula although your uvula is a good thing to look at to see what your what your velum is doing but your uv is attached to the soft palate but it's not what we're actually looking for but yeah it's a good landmark trans yes i am trans uh trans and proud thank you very much trans people are amazing so you know whatever let's see um let's see there's also being cashier and having to deal with that anxiety for sure i know actually when i was first practicing i got a job at a liquor store i don't even drink alcohol i got a job at a liquor store so that i could test my passability with midwestern like drinkers you know so i would go into this liquor store in rural indiana and i would spend several i'd spend the whole morning trying to get as thin as i possibly could and i'd go in and i'd use my whole voice for the entire shift and i would tweak my voice you know somebody would walk out and i'd be like i think i did good maybe i should try this instead for the next person and i basically got a job i only worked there once a week or one or once every five days i my manager was on board my manager was really cool and he was like um you know you could i was like i can't work every day or i can't work very often because i couldn't shave my face that much you know i had a beard at the time and shaving my whole face every day would leave me killed so i would have him book me like five or six days apart so i'd have enough time for the stubble to grow in and i'd shave it before work so i could present feminine and then that was really the place where i started experimenting with my presentation and passability in like genuine god the so anxiety i remember pulling up honestly going back over these memories is kind of like traumatizing uh the whole the whole transition earlier the earlier transition experience baby trans moments god those memories are painful that existence is painful um and i would pull up and um do you physically have to keep your voice modified over time does it stay that way i'm not modifying my voice at all right now this is what my voice sounds like um so it does stay that way through behavior the only reason why your voice stays the way it is currently or whatever your default is is because of behavioral default and we can do the same thing but with a feminized voice too uh let's see but yeah i would just go and i would try to be as certain as possible and then practice my voice as best i could for everybody and it usually worked and uh actually it pretty much always worked and it was mind-blowing to me because i thought i looked disgusting i thought i looked like a you know gross man that's what i was saying to myself inside right because of toxic internalized transphobia i had a lot of these toxic self-hating thoughts and i always thought those things and then like guys would come in they'd like flirt with me and like ask for my number or whatever and i'm just like sitting here like what is going on i think i look like a disgusting monster but yet these people don't huh that was so weird to me i hated that so much um and uh yeah so i'm glad to say that i passed to myself now so i i got the self passing thing so i don't really have that dysphoria as much anymore are you gonna upload this stream yeah this is a public stream i have all my public screens on youtube uploaded here's i have about nine or ten maybe not nine or two maybe seven or eight i have about seven or eight uh no i've got more than that i got about nine or ten i have nine or ten patron live streams that are all archived and indexed on my patreon those are private and then i have these streams that are public i do a public one maybe once every two or three months on my youtube channel so there's like a public stream um okay i think it's about time to wrap up actually i've been going for three hours and 45 minutes what time is it even i started it whoa it's nearly 6 30. okay i was trying to be done by four okay okay okay okay okay uh it's time for me to wrap up here everybody um i'm gonna get off here and do some editing i'm gonna upload a patreon video later tonight it's an hour and a half long workshop that goes over global behavior and all sorts of lovely stuff and also just like mindset on how to practice voice in the beginning and where to get started and everything like that um before everybody goes once again i'll do one last plug if you guys want to support what i stand for if you guys want to support the content that i'm making uh if you guys want to interact with me more on my server where i post and i chat and i ship post feel free to join my patreon um and even a dollar helps it's more so it's less about the money and more about how many people are backing me because it makes me just feel like i have this army of the community behind me that's like let's improve the quality of living for trans people that's kind of what it means to me so even a dollar is great thank you all so much um you've made quarantine much more bearable i'm really glad to hear that thank you so much everybody uh have a really really really wonderful rest of your night okay everyone be safe stay covered free um oh thank you sarah i appreciate that i'll see you around everybody bye cheers in stream

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Published: Mon Jul 27 2020