>>> LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, COULD I ASK YOU TO TAKE YOUR SEATS, PLEASE. WELCOME TO THE 2020 VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE HERE AT THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH. I'M JANET BROURNGS EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. WE'RE DELIGHTED THAT YOU'RE HERE. IN THE NEXT FEW MINUTES, YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR THANKS THAT ARE OWED A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR MAKING TONIGHT POSSIBLE. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO COVER SOME HOUSEKEEPING RULES FOR THIS EVENING'S DEBATES, WHICH START WITH PLEASE MAKE SURE YOUR CELL PHONES ARE TURNED OFF ON ALL FUNCTIONS, CAN'T MAKE ANY NOISE, AND PLEASE OPEN YOUR PROGRAMS AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE MANY, MANY PEOPLE THAT WE OWE A HUGE DEBTS OF GRATITUDE FOR THIS EVENING. I'D LIKE TO START WITH PENTAGRAM WHICH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NEW LOOK OF THE COMMISSION'S NAME AND COLOR, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE FLATS FOR STARTERS. WE ARE ALSO GRATEFUL TO CROW AND MOORING, WHICH HAS SUPPORTED OUR WORK SIGNIFICANTLY FOR YEARS AND STATE AND FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH HAS JUST COME ON BOARD THIS YEAR. WE THANK YOU AUTOMATIC. AS WE SPEAK, THERE IS A WASHINGTON FILING CENTER BEING HOSTED AT THE NATIONAL PRESS CLUB FOR MEMBERS OF THE PRESS THAT COULD NOT COME HERE AS THEY NORMALLY WOULD TO COVER THIS DEBATE. WE ARE EXCEEDINGLY GRATEFUL TO THEM FOR PROVIDING THIS ADDITIONAL PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO COVER THE DEBATE IN A PROFESSIONAL WAY. WE OWE SPECIAL THANKS TO THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE, THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION, THE DEPARTMENT OF CAN HOMELAND SECURITY, AND TO THE CLEMSON UNIVERSITY'S MEDIA FORENSICS HUB. I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE THE CO-CHAIRS OF THE COMMISSION. FRANK AND KEN FOR THEIR COMMENTS. >> GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. AND WELCOME TO SALT LAKE CITY, BEAUTIFUL SPLAIGS. I'M A NEVADAN, SO I'M NOT TOO FAR FROM HOME BUT I RECOGNIZE THE DESERT AND THE MOUNTAINS AND IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE. WE CERTAINLY OWE UNIVERSITY TO AND THE DEBATE SOCIETY THAT CO-SPONSORED THIS AND I THINK AS YOU WALK THROUGH THE CAMPUS AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THE TREMENDOUS JOB THEY'VE DONE AND WHAT A BEAUTIFUL JOB THEY'VE DONE IN HERE WITH ALL THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TO DO WITH OUR SPACING, AS YOU CAN SEE. NOW, WE ALSO HAVE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, OVER 60 REGULAR STAFF MEMBERS, THE COMMISSION, TO PUT THESE DEBATES ON. AND WE HAVE TO GO FROM CLEVELAND HERE TO SALT LAKE TO MIAMI AND THEN FINISH UP IN NASHVILLE. AND THANKS TO UNITED AIRLINES WHO IS GRATUITOUSLY FLYING OUR ENTIRE STAFF BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THESE CITIES. AND WE OWE THEM A REAL DEBT OF GRATITUDE. PROBABLY NO ONE DO WE OWE MORE THAN THE CLEVELAND CLINIC. THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE IN CLEVELAND WERE THERE WITH A DEBATE THAT WAS CO-SPONSORED BY THE CLINIC AND CASE WESTERN RESERVE. THE CLEVELAND CLINIC HAS BEEN OUR ADVISOR ON MEDICAL ISSUES, WHICH IS SO IMPORTANT AS WE LIVE THROUGH THIS CORONAVIRUS EPISODE. SO WE WANT TO THANK THEM AGAIN FOR THEIR TREMENDOUS WORK. AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, DON'T LAUGH, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A MAJOR CONTRIBUTION AND HAS A BUSHING COMPANY, FOR 28 YEARS, THEY HAVE PROVIDED FOR THE STAFF, THE MILLION REPORTERS THAT ARE OUT HERE, SOMETHING TO EAT SO THEY DON'T GO BACK AND FORTH AND THEY'VE BEEN WITH US FOR 28 YEARS AND WE'RE SO, SO HAPPY. NOW I HAVE TO BE SORT OF A SCOLD. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER IN THEIR HOMES WATCHING WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT ON TELEVISION, OR THEY'LL BE AT THEIR COMPUTERS OR THEY'LL BE ON THEIR iPADS WATCHING TO LISTEN TO THESE TWO INDIVIDUALS STATE THEIR POSITIONS ON ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SO WE WOULD ASK YOU TO NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT BY APPLAUDING, BY CHEERING, BY IN ANY WAY GETTING INVOLVED. YOU'RE FORTUNATE TO BE REALLY, TODAY, IN A PLACE OF HISTORY. YOU CAN SAY YOU WERE AT THIS DEBATE. AND IT'S A REMARKABLE ONE. VERY IMPORTANT ONE. SO PLEASE DO NOT GET INVOLVED. LET THOSE PEOPLE SEE IT IN PEACE. YOU WERE TOLD WHEN YOU ENTERED HERE THAT YOU HAD TO HAVE A MASK ON. AND THE RULES THAT YOU WILL KEEP YOUR MASKS ON. AND IF YOU TAKE YOUR MASKS OFF, SOMEONE WILL APPROACH YOU AND ASK YOU TO PLEASE PUT YOUR MASK BACK ON. IF YOU DO NOT PUT THE MASK BACK ON, YOU WILL BE ADVICED THAT YOUR TICKET IS CANCELED. ON THE BACK OF YOUR TICKET THAT GOT YOU IN HERE, YOU PLEDGED TO FOLLOW ALL THE PROTOCOLS OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, ETC., AND YOU WILL BE ESCORTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM THE PREMISE. IT WILL BE EMBARRASSING TO YOU, IT WILL INTERFERE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON UP HERE, SO WE BEG YOU, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE YOUR MASKS OFF. AS SOON AS I'M OFF THE STAGE HERE, MINE'S GOING BACK ON, TOO. IT'S NOT JUST FOR ANYONE. I ALSO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT AT 7:00, ON THE BUTTON, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR A WHOLE LOT OF NOISE, BECAUSE ALL OF THESE NETWORKS, THEIR BOXES ARE UP BEHIND YOU, WILL GO ON AIR TO COVER THE DEBATES. YOU'LL HEAR THEM GO ON AIR AND YOU'LL HEAR THE MODERATORS TALKING. DON'T GET UPSET, IT WILL EVENTUALLY CALM DOWN. SO WE HOPE YOU ENJOY. WE HOPE YOU LEARN. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A TREMENDOUS EVENING, AND WE'RE MISSING ONE OF OUR CO-CHAIRMAN, DORTHY RIDINGS, THE FORMER HEAD OF THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS. SHE'S NOT BE US TONIGHT BUT SHE'S IN OUR THOUGHTS. DOT, IF YOU'RE WATCHING, WE SAY HELLO. LET ME INTRODUCE TO YOU MY CO-CHAIRMAN, KEN ROY LLACK WHO WILL TELL YOU SOMETHING MORE. >> I JOINED FRANK, JANET, AND FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS IN WELCOMING YOU TO THE 10th VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES SPONSORED AND ORGANIZED BY THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES. AS THE NEWEST CO-CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION, I AM PROUD TO WORK ALONGSIDE FRANK FA RERVEGS, NCROFF, JANTS BRET BROWN AND A WHO DEAL WITH ENDLESS MOVING PARTS RANGING FROM POLITICAL PRESS AND PRODUCTION ISSUES TO CYBER SECURITY AND SET DESIGN, TO LIGHT AND LODGE ICHKS. OVER THE YEAR THEY HAVE CREATED AN INSTITUTION THAT HAS MADE DEBATES AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS. A VIEW SHARED BY THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE. ALSO, THE ADVENT OF THE COMMISSION-SPONSORED DEBATE WATCH ALLOWS PARTICIPANTS IN WATCH COMMITTEES IN ALL 50 STATES AND PUERTO RICO TO EXCHANGE VIEWS ON ISSUES RAISED IN DEBATES WITH THOSE WHO AGREE AND THOSE WHO DISAGREE. TO LISTEN RESPECTFULLY TO EACH OTHERS' OPINIONS. DEBATE WATCH 2020 WILL REACH MORE THAN A MILLION PARTICIPANTS AND HERE IN UTAH, THE UTAH DEBATE COMMISSION IS CARRYING OUT A BROAD CIVIC EDUCATION PROGRAM AROUND THESE DEBATES BY CONDUCTING AN ESSAY COMPETITION FOR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND ENCOURAGING NINE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN THE STATES TO ORGANIZE VIRTUAL DEBATE WATCHES. NOW, AS SIGNIFICANT AS DEBATES HAVE BECOME HERE, THEY CAN BECOME MORE CONSEQUENTIAL OVERSEAS WHERE THE COMMISSION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTE HAS HELPED ORGANIZE 450 DEBATES IN 45 NATIONS. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IN POST CONFLICT COUNTRIES AND IN NEW AND EMERGING DEMOCRACIES. THIS EFFORT HAS LED TO THE CREATION OF DEBATES INTERNATIONAL, A GLOBAL SUPPORT NETWORK OF SIMILAR DEBATE OKKERS FROM NEARLY 40 COUNTRIES. SO WHEN THE COMMISSION AND NDI SUPPORTED CANDIDATE DEBATES IN TUNISIA LAST YEAR WE WERE JOINED BY MEMBERS FROM CHILE, MEXICO TO SHARE THEIR EXPERTISE. I WANTED TO TERRORIZE COMMISSION'S LONGEST STANDING SUPPORTER. THE JUDY AND PETER BLOOM KOBLER FOUNDATION WHICH HAS GIVEN ITS TRUST TO THE NONPARTISAN MISSION OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE PAST 32 YEARS, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEIR EXTRAORDINARY CONTRIBUTION TO THE 2020 DEBATES. NOW, IT IS MY DISTINCT HONOR TO INTRODUCE DR. RUTH WATKINS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> GOOD EVENING. I'M RUTH WATT KINGS. OF THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH. IT IS MY GREAT PLEASURE TO WELCOME YOU TO UTAH'S FLAGSHIP UNIVERSITY. IS THANKS TO THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES FOR CELEBRITYING THE U TO HOST THE NATION'S ONLY 2020 VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT UTAH HAS BEEN THE SITE OF AN ELECTION DEBATE AND WE ARE THRILLED THAT SO MANY WILL GET TO KNOW OUR SAFETY AND OUR UNIVERSITY THROUGH THIS OCCASION. SALT LAKE CITY, UTAH'S CAPITAL, IS A THRIVING HUB OF INDUSTRY AND INNOVATION. >>> FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH IN SALT LAKE CITY, WELCOME TO THE FIRST AND ONLY VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE OF 20. SPONSORED BY THE NONPARTISAN COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTS AL DEEBLTS. I'M SUSAN PAGE OF "USA TODAY." THIS DEBATE IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR DEMOCRACY. IN KINGSBURY HALL WE HAVE A SMALL AND SOCIALLY DISTANT AUDIENCE. WE'VE TAKEN EXTRA PRECAUTIONS DURING THE PANDEMIC. EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE IS REQUIRED TO WEAR A FACEMASK AND THE CANDIDATES WILL BE SEATED 12 FEET APART. THE AUDIENCE'S ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THEIR CANDIDATES BUT THEY'VE AGREED TO EXPRESS THAT ENTHUSIASM ONLY TWICE, AT THE END OF THE DEBATE AND NOW, WHEN I INTRODUCE THE CANDIDATES. PLEASE WELCOME CALIFORNIA SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS AND VICE PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE. [ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU. >> SENATOR HARRIS AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE'RE MEETING AT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE FIRST LADY CONTINUE TO UNDERGO TREATMENT IN WASHINGTON AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR COVID-19. WE SEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO THEM FOR THEIR RAPID AND COMPLETE RECOVERY AND FOR THE RECOVERY OF EVERYONE AFFLICTED BY THE CORONAVIRUS. THE TWO CAMPAIGNS AND THE COMMISSION ON PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES HAVE AGREED ON THE GROWLS. I'M HERE TONE FORCE THEM ON BEHALF OF THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS WHO ARE WATCHING. ONE NOTE: NO ONE IN EITHER CAMPAIGN OR AT THE COMMISSION OR ANYWHERE ELSE HAS BEEN TOLD IN ADVANCE WHAT TOPICS I'LL RAISE OR WHAT QUESTIONS I'LL ASK. THIS 90-MINUTE DEBATE WILL BE DIVIDED INTO NINE SEG JMGTS OF ABOUT O 10 MINUTES EACH. I'LL POSE A QUESTION TO EACH OF YOU, SOMETIMES THE SAME QUESTION, SOMETIMES A DIFFERENT QUESTION ON THE SAME TOPIC. YOU WILL THEN HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER WITHOUT INTERRUPTION BY ME OR THE OTHER CANDIDATE. WE'LL TAKE SIX MINUTES OR SO TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE. AT THAT POINT ALTHOUGH THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MORE TO SAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC. WE WANT A DEBATE THAT IS LIVELY, BUT AMERICANS ALSO DESERVE A DISCUSSION THAT IS CIVIL. THESE ARE TUMULTUOUS TIMES BUT WE CAN AND WILL SKR HAVE A RESPECTFUL EXCHANGE ABOUT THE BIG ISSUES FACING OUR NATION. LET'S BEGIN WITH THE ONGOING PANDEMIC THAT HAS COST OUR COUNTRY SO MUCH. SENATOR HARRIS, THE CORONAVIRUS IS NOT UNDER CONTROL. OVER THE PAST WEEK, JOHNS HOPKINS REPORTS THAT 39 STATES HAVE HAD MORE COVID CASE OVER THE PAST SEVEN DAYS THAN IN THE WEEK BEFORE. NINE STATES HAVE SET NEW RECORDS. EVEN IF A VACCINE IS RELEASED SOON, THE NEXT ADMINISTRATION WILL FACE HARD CHOICES. WHAT WOULD A BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DO IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY THAT A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WOULDN'T DO? WOULD YOU IMPOSE NEW LOCKDOWNS FOR BUSINESSES, SCHOOLS AND HOT SPOTS, A FEDERAL MANDATE TO WEAR MASKS? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES WITHOUT INTERRUPTIONS. >> THANK YOU, SUSAN. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE WITNESSED THE GREATEST FAILURE OF ANY PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY. HERE ARE THE FACTS. 210,000 DEAD PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY IN JUST THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. OVER SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE WHO HAVE CONTRACTED THIS DISEASE. FOUR IN FIVE BUSINESSES CLOSED. WE'RE LOOKING AT FRONT LINE WORKERS WHO HAVE BEEN TREATED LIKE SACRIFICIAL WORKERS. WE ARE LOOKING AT OVER 30 MILLION PEOPLE WHO IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAD TO FILE FOR UNEMPLOYMENT, AND HERE'S THE THING: P: ON JANUARY 28th, THE VICE PRESIDENT AND THE PRESIDENT WERE INFORMED ABOUT THE NATURE OF THIS PANDEMIC. THEY WERE INFORMED THAT IT'S LETHAL IN CONSEQUENCE, THAT IT IS AIRBORNE, THAT IT WILL AFFECT YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THAT IT WOULD BE CONTRACTED BECAUSE IT IS AIRBORNE. AND THEY KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU. CAN YOU IMAGINE IF YOU KNEW ON JANUARY 28th AS OPPOSED TO MARCH 13th WHAT THEY KNEW WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE DONE TO PREPARE? THEY KNEW AND THEY COVERED IT UP. THE PRESIDENT SAID IT WAS A HOAX. THEY MINIMIZED THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT. THE PRESIDENT SAID YOU'RE ON ONE SIDE OF HIS LEDGER IF YOU WEAR A MASK, YOU'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HIS LEDGER IF YOU DON'T. AND IN SPITE OF ALL THAT, TODAY THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A PLAN. THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A PLAN. WELL, JOE BIDEN DOES. AND OUR PLAN IS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AROUND A NATIONAL STRATEGY FOR CONTACT TRACING, FOR TESTING, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE VACCINE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT WILL BE FREE FOR ALL. THAT IS THE PLAN THAT JOE BIDEN HAS AND THAT I HAVE, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TO GET AHOLD OF WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AND NEED TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY AND JOE BIDEN IS THE BEST MAN TO DO THAT. THEY'VE FORFEITED THEIR RIGHT TO RE-ELECTION. >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, MORE THAN 210,000 AMERICANS HAVE DIED OF COVID-19 SINCE FEBRUARY. THE U.S. DEATH TOLL IS HIGHER THAN THAT OF ALMOST EVERY OTHER WEALTHY NATION ON EARTH. OUR DEATH RATE IS TWO AND A HALF TIMES THAT OF CANADA NEXT DOOR. YOU HAD THE ADMINISTRATION'S TASK FORCE. WHY IS THE U.S. DEATH TOLL AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR POPULATION HIGHER THAN THAT OF ALMOST ANY OTHER WEALTHY COUNTRY? AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO RESPOND WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. >> THANK YOU. I WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSION AND UNIVERSITY TO O UTAH FOR HOSTING THIS EVENT AND SENATOR HARRIS, IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE ON THE STAGE WITH YOU. OUR NATION'S GONE THROUGH A VERY CHALLENGING TIME THIS YEAR. BUT I WANT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT FROM THE VERY FIRST DAY, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP HAS PUT THE HEALTH OF AMERICA FIRST. BEFORE THERE WERE MORE THAN FIVE CASES IN THE UNITED STATES, ALL PEOPLE WHO HAD RETURNED FROM CHINA, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP DID WHAT NO OTHER AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAD EVER DONE AND THAT WAS HE SUSPENDED ALL TRAVEL FROM CHINA, THE SECOND LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD. NOW, SENATOR JOE BIDEN OPPOSED THAT DECISION. HE SAID IT WAS XENOPHOBIC AND HYSTERICAL. I CAN TELL YOU, HAVING LED THE CORONAVIRUS WHITE HOUSE TASK FORCE THAT THAT DECISION ALONE BY PRESIDENT TRUMP BOUGHT US INVALUABLE TIME TO STAND UP THE GREATEST NATIONAL MOBILIZATION SINCE WORLD WAR II AND I BELIEVE IT SAVED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN LIVES. WITH THAT TIME WE WERE ABLE TO REINVENT TESTED. MORE THAN 350 MILLION TESTS HAVE BEEN DONE TO DATE. BILLIONS OF SPLICE SO OUR DOCTORS AND NURSES HAD THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT THEY NEEDED. WE BEGAN REALLY BEFORE THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY. IT WAS HARD TO DEVELOP A VACCINE AND THERAPEUTICS THAT HAVE BEEN SAVING LIVES ALONG THE WAY. UNDER WARP SPEED WE BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE 10s OF MILLIONS OF DOSES OF VACCINE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. THE REALITY IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BIDEN PLAN IT READS LIKE WHAT OUR TASK FORCE HAVE BEEN DOING EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. QUITE FRANKLY, WHEN I LOOK AT THEIR PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT ADVANCING TESTING, CREATING NEW P.P.E., DEVELOPING A NEW VACCINE, ITS LOOKS A LITTLE BIT LIKE PLAGIARISM, WHEN JOE BIDEN KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT. I KNOW THIS -- >> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT. >> I KNOW WITH MY HEART -- >> THANK YOU. >> THE SACRIFICES THEY'VE MADE -- >> THANK YOU. >> SENATORS HARRIS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? >> ABSOLUTELY. WHATEVER THE VICE PRESIDENT IS CLAIMING THE ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE, CLEARLY IT HASN'T WORKED. WHEN YOU LOOK AT OVER 210,000 DEAD BODIES IN OUR COUNTRY, AMERICAN LIVES THAT HAVE BEEN LOST, FAMILIES GRIEVING THAT LOSS, AND YOU KNOW, THE VICE PRESIDENT IS THE HEAD OF THE TASK FORCE AND KNEW ON JANUARY 28th HOW SERIOUS THIS WAS. AND THANKS TO BOB WOODWARD, WE LEARNED THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT IT AND THEN WHEN THAT WAS EXPOSED, THE VICE PRESIDENT SAID WHEN ASKED, WELL, WHY DIDN'T Y'ALL TELL ANYBODY, HE SAID BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT WANTED PEOPLE TO REMAIN CALM. WELL, LET'S GO -- >> SUSAN, I -- >> I WANT TO SKSH DID. >> I HAVE -- >> MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I'M SPEAKING. >> IDES LIKE TO WEIGH IN. >> SOMEONE ASK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN YOU'RE PANICKED ABOUT WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE NEXT ROLL OF TOILET PAPER. HOW -- >> THANK YOU. >> -- WHEN YOUR CHILDREN'S COULDN'T SEE YOUR PARENTS BECAUSE YOU WERE AFRAID THEY COULD KILL THEM. >> LET'S AGGRESSIVE VICE PRESIDENT A CHANCE TO RESPONSE. ONE MINUTE. >> THERE'S A NOT A DAY THAT'S GONE BY THAT I HAVEN'T THOUGHTS OF PEOPLE WHO LOST A LOVED ONE AND YOU'LL ALWAYS BE IN OUR HEARTS AND PRAYERS. BY WHEN YOU SAY WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE DONE OVER THESE LAST EIGHT MONTHS HASN'T WORKED, IT'S A GREAT DISSERVICE TO THE SACRIFICES THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE MADE -- DR. FAUCI SAID EVERYTHING HE TOLD PRESIDENT, THE PRESIDENT TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. NOW PRESIDENT TRUMP, I WILL TELL YOU HAS BOUNDLESS CONFIDENCE IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HE SPOKE WITH CONFIDENCE THAT WE'D GET THROUGH THIS TOGETHER. WHEN YOU SAY IT HASN'T WORKED, DR. FAUCI AND DR. BIRX AND OUR MEDICAL EXPERTS CAME TO US IN THE SECOND WEEK OF MARCH. THEY SAID IF THE PRESIDENT DIDN'T TAKE THE UNPRECEDENTED STEP OF SHUTTING DOWN NEARLY HALF THE AMERICAN DMAE WE COULD LOSE 2.2 MILLION AMERICANS. THAT'S THE REALITY. >> THANK YOU. >> THEY ALSO SAID -- IF WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT, SUSAN, WE COULD LOSE 200 MILLION AMERICANS. >> VICE PRESIDENT -- >> ONE LIFE IS TOOK, SUSAN. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE CREDIT FOR PUTTING THE HEALTH OF THEIR FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS FIRST, OUR DOCTORS -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> I'M GOING TO SPEAK UP ON BEHALF OF WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE DONE. >> YOU WERE IN THE FRONT ROW IN THE ROSE GARDEN AT WHAT SEEMS TO BE A SUPER SPREADER. NO SOCIAL DISTANCING. FEW MASKS AND NOW A CLUSTER OF CORONAVIRUS CASES AMONG THOSE WHO WERE THERE. HOW CAN YOU EXPECT AMERICANS TO FOLLOW THE ADMINISTRATION'S SAFETY GUIDELINES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM COVID WHEN YOU AT THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE NOT BEEN DOING SO? >> WELL, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE DEMONSTRATED OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS THAT WHEN GIVEN THE FACTS, THEY'RE WILLING TO PUT THE HEALTH OF THEIR FAMILIES AND NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW FIRST. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT INTO PRACTICE. IN THE HEIGHT OF THE EPIDEMIC, WHEN WE WERE LOSING A HEARTBREAKING NUMBER OF 2,500 AMERICANS A DAY, WE SENT RESOURCES FROM NEW JERSEY AND NEW ORLEANS AND DETROIT. WE TOLD THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHO NEEDED TO BE DONE AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MADE THE SACRIFICES WHEN THE OUTBREAK HAPPENED IN THE SUN BELT, AGAIN AMERICANS STEPPED FORWARD. THE REALITY IS THE WORK OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES GOES ON. THE VACANCY ON THE SUPREME COURTS OF THE UNITED STATES HAS COME UPON US AND THE PRESIDENT INTRODUCED JUDGE AMY CONEY BARRETT -- >> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> IF I MAY SAY, THE ROSE GARDEN EVENT, THERE'S BEEN A GREAT DEAL OF SPECULATION ACTS IT. MY WIFE KAREN AND I WERE THERE AND HONORED TO BE THERE. >> YES. >> MANY WERE TESTED FOR CORONAVIRUS. IT WAS AN OUTDOOR EVENT WHICH ERCHL ROUTINELY VIES. THE DIFFERENCE IS PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I TRUST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO MAKE THE BEST CHOINSS IN REGARD TO THEIR HELP. JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS CONSISTENTLY TALK ABOUT MANDATES, NOT JUST WITH THE CORONAVIRUS, BUT A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF HEALTH CARE -- >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU -- >> THE GREEN NEW DEAL. WE'RE ABOUT FREEDOM AND RESPECTING THE FREEDOM OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT RESPECTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU RESPECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN YOU TELL THEM THE TRUTH. YOU RESPECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN YOU HAVE THE COURAGE -- >> WHICH WE'VE -- >> SPEAKING OF THOSE THINGS YOU MAY NOT WANT PEOPLE TO HEAR BUT THEY NEED TO HEAR SO THEY CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES. THIS ADMINISTRATION STOOD ON INFORMATION THAT IF YOU HAD AS A PARENT, IF YOU HAD AS A WORKER KNOWING YOU DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY SAVED UP AND NOW YOU'RE STANDING IN A FOOD LINE BECAUSE OF THE INEPTITUDE OF AN ADMINISTRATION THAT WAS UNWILLING TO SPEAK THE TRUTH TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT CARING ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD A TO SACRIFICE FAR TOO MUCH BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPETENCE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. IT IS ASKING TOO MUCH OF THE PEOPLE -- >> SUSAN, WE'RE -- >> IT'S ASKING TOO MUCH OF THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE EQUIPPED WITH THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO HELP THEMSELVES -- >> SUSAN, THE PRESIDENT -- >> I'M SORRY. >> KAMALA HARRIS, SENATOR HARRIS, I MEAN. >> CALL ME KAMALA. >> YOU'RE SENATOR HARRIS TO ME. FOR LIFE TO GET BACK TO NORMAL, DR. ANTHONY FAUCI AND OTHER EXPERTS SAY MOST PEOPLE WHO CAN BE VACCINATED NEED TO BE VACCINATED. HALF OF AMERICANS NOW SAY THEY WOULDN'T TAKE A VACCINE IF IT WAS RELEASED NOW. IF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION APPROVES A VACCINE BEFORE OR AFTER THE ELECTION, WOULD AMERICANS TAKE IT AND WOULD YOU TAKE ITS IT? >> IF THE DOCTORS TELL US TO TAKE ITS I'LL BE THE FIRST IN LINE TO TAKE IT. IF DONALD TRUMP TELLS ME TO TAKE IT, I'M NOT TAKING IT. >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF REPERCUSSION FROM THIS PANDEMIC. THE PRESIDENT'S RECENT DIAGNOSIS OF COVID-19 HAS UNDERSCORED THE JOB THAT YOU HOLD AND ARE SEEKING. THAT'S OUR SECOND TOPIC TONIGHT. IT'S THE ROLE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT. ONE OF YOU WILL MAKE HISTORY ON JANUARY 20th. YOU'LL BE THE VICE PRESIDENT TO THE OLDEST PRESIDENT THE UNITED STATES HAS EVER HAD. DONALD TRUMP WILL BE 74 YEARS OLD ON INAUGURATION DAY. JOE BIDEN WILL BE 78 YEARS OLD. THAT ALREADY HAS RAISED CONCERNS AMONG SOME VOTERS, CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARPENED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP'S HOSPITALIZATION IN RECENT DAYS. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION OR REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT SAFEGUARDS OR PROCEDURES WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF PRESIDENTIAL DISABILITY, AND IF NOT, DO YOU THINK YOU? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES WITHOUT INTERRUPTION. >> WELL, SUSAN, THANK YOU. ALTHOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK -- >> I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ON -- >> THANK YOU BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK. THE REALITY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A VACCINE, SENATOR, IN RECORD TIME IN UNHEARD OF TIME, IN LESS THAN A YEAR. WE HAVE FIVE COMPANIES IN PHASE THREE CLINICAL TRIALS AND WE'RE RIGHT NOW PRODUCING 10s OF MILLIONS OF DOSES, SO THE FACT THAT YOU CONTINUE TO UNDERMINE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN A VACCINE BECAUSE THE VACCINE EMERGES DURING THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION I THINK IS UNCONSCIONABLE. STOP PLAYING POLITICS WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES. THE REALITY IS THAT WE WILL HAVE A VACCINE, WE BELIEVE BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR, AND IT WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY TO SAVE COUNTLESS AMERICAN LIVES AND YOUR CONTINUOUS UNDERMINING OF CONFIDENCE IN A VACCINE IS JUST -- IT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE. LET ME ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FAILURE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, WE ACTUALLY DO KNOW WHAT FAILURE LOOKS LIKE IN A PANDEMIC. IN 2009, THE SWINE FLU ARRIVED IN THE UNITED STATES. THANKFULLY, IT WAS -- ENDED UP NOT BEING AS LETHAL AS THE CORONAVIRUS. BUT BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, NOT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE CONTRACTED THE SWINE FLU. 60 MILLION AMERICANS CONTRACTED THE SWINE FLU. IF THE SWINE FLU HAS BEEN AS LETHAL AT THE CORONAVIRUS, IN 2009 WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS HAVEN'T WE WOULD HAVE LOST TWO MILLION AMERICAN LOOIFLS. RON CLAIM WOOL SAY LAST YEAR THAT IT WAS PURE LUCK THAT THEY DID, KWOERKTS EVERYTHING POSSIBLE WRONG, AND WE LEARNED FROM THAT. THE STRATEGIC NATIONAL STOCKPILE EMPTY. THEY LEFT AN EMPTY AND HOLLOW PLAN -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT -- >> OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND SENATOR PLEASE -- >> STOP, PLEASE. >> STOP UNDERMINING A VACCINE. >> SENATOR HARRIS LET ME ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION. >> YEAH. >> WHICH IS HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION OR REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN ABOUT SAFEGUARDS OR PROCEDURES WHEN IT COMES TO THE ISSUE OF PRESIDENTIAL ZAKT AND IF NOT, AND IF YOU WIN THE ELECTION NEXT MONTH, DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES UNSBRUPTED. >> LET ME TELL YOU FIRST OF ALL, THE DAY I GOT THE CALL FROM JOE BIDEN, IT WAS ACTUALLY A ZOOM CALL. ASKING ME TO SERVE WITH HIM ON THIS TICKET. IT WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST MEMORABLE DAYS OF MY LIFE I -- YOU KNOW I THOUGHT ABOUT MY MOTHER, WHO CAME TO THE UNITED STATES AT THE AGE OF 19 AND GAVE BIRTH TO ME AT THE AGE OF 25 AT KAISER HOSPITAL IN OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA, AND THE THOUGHT THAT I'D BE SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, I KNOW WOULD MAKE HER PROUD AND SHE MUST BE LOOKING DOWN ON HER. YOU KNOW, JOE AND I WERE RAISED IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY. WE WERE RAISED WITH VALUES THAT ARE ABOUT HARD WORK, ABOUT THE VALUE AND THE DIGNITY OF PUBLIC SERVICE AND ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF FIGHT FOR THE DIGNITY OF ALL PEOPLE, AND I THINK JOE ASKED ME TO SERVE WITH HIM BECAUSE I HAVE A CAREER THAT INCLUDED BEING ELECTED THE FIRST WOMAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY OF SAN FRANCISCO WHERE I CREATED MODELS OF INNOVATION FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN TERMS OF REFORMING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. I WAS ELECTED THE FIRST WOMAN OF COLOR AND BLACK WOMAN TO BE ELECTED ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WHERE I RAN THE SECOND LARGEST DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN THE UNITED STATES, SECOND ONLY TO THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THE DAY I TOOK ON EVERYTHING FROM TRANSNATIONAL CRIMINAL ORGANIZATIONS TO THE BIG BANKS THAT WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF HOMEOWNERS TO FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES THAT WERE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF VETERANS AND THEN OF COURSE NOW I SERVE IN THE UNITED STATES AS ONLY THE SECOND BLACK WOMAN EVER ELECTED TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE. I SERVE ON THE INTENTION COMMITTEE WHERE I'VE BEEN IN REGULAR RECEIPT OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION ABOUT THREATS TO OUR NATION. I'VE TRAVELED THE WORLD. I'VE MET WITH OUR SOLDIERS IN OUR -- IN WAR ZONES, AND I THINK JOE HAS ASKED KNOW SERVE WITH HIM BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT WE SHARE -- WE SHARE A PURPOSE, WHICH IS ABOUT LIFTING UP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND AFTER THE FOUR YEARS A THAT WE HAVE SEEN OF DONALD TRUMP UNIFYING OUR COUNTRY AROUND OUR COMMON VALUES AND PRINCIPLES. >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. NEITHER PRESIDENT TRUMP OR VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN HAS RELEASED DETAILED HEALTH INFORMATION THAT HAD BECOME THE NORM UNTIL THE 2016 ELECTION. IN RECENT DAYS PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DOCTORS HAVE GIVEN MISLEADING ANSWERS OR REFUSED TO ANSWER BASIC QUESTIONS ABOUT HIS HEALTH. MY QUESTION TO EACH OF YOU IN-TURN IS: IS THIS INFORMATION VOTERS DESERVE TO KNOW? VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? >> WELL, SUSAN, THANK YOU. LET ME SAY ON BEHALF OF THE PRESIDENT AND THE FIRST LADY HOW MOVED WE'VE ALL BEEN BY THE OUTPOURING OF PRAYERS AND CONCERN FOR THE. . AND I DO BELIEVE IT'S EMBLEMATIC OF THE PRAYERS AND CONCERN THAT HAVE USHERED FORTH FOR EVERY AMERAN IMPACTED BY THE CORONAVIRUS. BUT THE CARE THE PRESIDENT RECEIVED AT WALTER REED HOSPITAL, WHITE HOUSE DOCTORS WAS EXCEPTIONAL. IN THE TRANSPARENCY THAT THEY PRACTICED ALL ALONG THE WAY WILL CONTINUE AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW ABOUT THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF THEIR PRESIDENT AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. BUT I'M JUST EXTREMELY GRATEFUL AND WAS MORE THAN A LITTLE MOVED BY THE BROAD AND BIPARTISAN SUPPORT. SENATOR, I WANT TO THANK YOU AND JOE BIDEN FOR YOUR EXPRESSIONS OF GENUINE CONCERN. >> OK. >> I ALSO WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AS I DID ON THAT PHONE CALL. >> UH-HUH. >> ON THE HISTORIC NATURE OF YOUR NOMINATION. >> THANK YOU. >> I NEVER EXPECTED TO BE ON THIS STAGE FOUR YEARS AGO, SO I KNOW THE FEELING. >> UH-HUH. >> THE REALITY IS WE'VE GOT AN ELECTION BEFORE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. IN THE MIDST OF THIS CHALLENGING YEAR, AND THE STAKES HAVE NEVER BEEN HIGHER. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT. I WANT TO GIVE SENATOR HARRIS A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE SAME QUESTION WHICH IS DO AMERICANS HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW MORE DETAILED HEALTH INFORMATION ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE FACING SOME KIND OF CHALLENGE? >> ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN SO INCREDIBLY TRANSPARENT CERTAINLY BY CONTRAST, THE. HAS NOT. BOTH IN TERMS OF HEALTH RECORDS BUT ALSO WITH THE TAX. WE NOW KNOW BECAUSE OF GREAT INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM THAT DONALD TRUMP PAID $750 IN TAXES. WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT I LITERALLY SAID YOU MEAN $750,000? AND IT WAS LIKE NO $750. WE KNOW DONALD TRUMP OWES AND IS IN DEBT FOR $400 MILLION. JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, WHEN WE SAY IN DEBT, IT MEANS YOU OWE MONEY TO SOMEBODY. IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO KNOW WHO THE PRESIDENTS OF THE UNITED STATES, THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OWES MONEY TO, BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT IS INFLUENCING THE PRESIDENT'S DECISIONS, AND IF YOU'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF YOU OR SELF-INTEREST? I'M GLAD YOU ASKED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY. JOE HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY TRANSPARENT OVER MANY, MANY YEARS. THE ONE THING WE ALL KNOW ABOUT JOE, HE PUTS IT ALL OUT THERE. HE IS HONEST. HE IS FORTHRIGHT BUT TRUMP ON THE OTHER HAND -- >> SUSAN -- >> THANKS -- >> IS COVERING UP EVERYTHING. >> VICE PRESIDENT, A CHANCE TO RESPOND. >> I RESPECT THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN SPENT 47 YEARS IN LIFE. I RESPECT YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE AS WELL. >> THANK YOU. >> THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO WAS A BUSINESS MAN, A JOB CREATOR, WHOSE PAID 10s OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAXES, PAYROLL TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, HE'S CREATED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS. THE PRESIDENT SAID THOSE PUBLIC REPORTS ARE NOT ACCURATE AND PRESIDENT'S ALSO RELEASED LITERALLY STACKS OF FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN REVIEW, JUST AS THE LAW ALLOWS, BUT DISTINCTION HERE THAT JOE BIDEN, 47 YEARS IN PUBLIC SERVICE COMPARED TO PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, WHO BROUGHT ALL THAT EXPERIENCE FOUR YEARS AGO -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT. >> AND TURNED THIS ECONOMY AROUND BY CUTTING TAXES, ROLLING -- BACK -- >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENS. >> FIGHTING FOR FREE TRADE -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE INTO THE THIRD TOPIC, WHICH IS ABOUT THE ECONOMY. THIS HAS BEEN ANOTHER ASPECT OF LIFE FOR AMERICANS WHO HAVE BEEN SO AFFECTED BY THIS CORONAVIRUS. WE HAVE A JOBS CRISIS BREWING. ON FRIDAY WE TLAERNLD THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HAD DECLINED TO 7.9% IN SEPTEMBER BUT THAT JOB GROWTH HAD STALLED. THAT WAS BEFORE THE LATEST ROUND OF LAYOFFS AND FURLOUGHS IN THE AIRLINE INDUSTRY AND ELSEWHERE. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DISCOURAGED WORKERS HAVE STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK. NEARLY 11 MILLION JOBS THAT EXISTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR HAVEN'T BEEN REPLACED. THOSE HARDEST HIT INCLUDE LATINOS, BLACKS, AND WOMEN. SENATOR HARRIS, THE BIDEN HARRIS CAMPAIGN WOULD PAY FOR NEW SPENDING BY RAISING FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS ON TAXES ON WEALTHY INDIVIDUALS AND CORPORATIONS. SOME ECONOMISTS WARN THAT COULD CURB ENTREPRENEUR AL VENTURES. WOULD RAISING TAXES PUT THE RECOVERY AT RISK AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER UNINTERRUPTSED. >> THANK YOU. ON THE ISSUE OF THE ECONOMY, I THINK THERE COULDN'T BE OR MORE FFL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN. JOE BIDEN BELIEVES YOU MEASURE THE HEALTH AND STRENGTH OF AMERICA'S ECONOMY BASED ON THE HEALTH AND THE STRENGTH OF THE AMERICAN WORKER, AND THE AMERICAN FAMILY. ON THE OTHER HAND, DONALD TRUMP WHO MEASURES THE STRENGTH OF THE ECONOMY BASED ON HOW RICH PEOPLE ARE DOING. WHICH IS WHY HE PASSED A TAX BILL BENEFITTING THE TOP 1% AND THE BIGGEST CORPORATIONS OF AMERICA, LEADING TO A TWO TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR. ON DAY ONE, JOE BIDEN WILL REPEAL THAT TAX BILL. HE'LL GET RID OF IT AND WHAT HE'LL DO WITH THE MONEY IS INVEST IT IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND THROUGH A PLAN THAT IS ABOUT INVESTING IN STRUCTURE, SOMETHING DONALD TRUMP SAID HE WOULD DO. I REMEMBER HEARING SOMETHING ABOUT THAT THAT BUT IT NEVER HAPPENED. JOE BIDEN WILL DO THAT. IT'S ABOUT UPGRADING OUR ROADS AND BRIDGES AND INVESTING IN RENEWABLE ENERGY. JOE IS GOING TO INVEST THAT MONEY IN WHAT WE NEED TO DO AROUND INNOVATION. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN OUR COUNTRY BELIEVED IN SCIENCE AND INVESTED IN RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT SO THAT WE WERE IN A INNOVATION LEADER ON THE GLOBE. JOE BIDEN WILL USE THAT MONEY TO INVEST IN EDUCATION, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO GO TO A TWO-YEAR COMMUNITY COLLEGE, IT WILL BE FREE IF YOU COME FROM A FAMILY THAT MAKES LESS THAN $125,000 YOU'LL GO TO PUBLIC UNIVERSITY FOR FREE. WE'LL MAKE SURE IF YOU HAVE STUDENT LOAN DEBT IT'S CUT BY $10,000. THAT'S HOW JOE BIDEN THINKS ABOUT THE ECONOMY WHICH IS ABOUT INVESTING IN THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY OPPOSED TO PASSING A TAX BILL THAT LET AMERICAN COMPANIES GO OFF SHORE TO DO THEIR BUSINESS. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE YOUR ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN PREDICTING A RAPID AND ROBUST RECOVERY. SHOULD AMERICANS BE BRACED FOR AN ECONOMIC COMEBACK THAT IS GOING TO TAKE NOT MONTHS BUT A YEAR OR MORE? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ANSWER UNINTERRUPTED. >> WHEN I TOOK OFFICE AMERICA HAD GONE THROUGH DID BAD ECONOMY. TRIED TO TAX AND SPEND AND REGULATE AND BAIL OUR WAY BACK TO A GROWING ECONOMY. PRESIDENT TRUMP CUT TAXES ACROSS THE BOARD. DESPITE WHAT SENATOR HARRIS SAYS, THE AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY OF FOUR HAD $2,000 IN SAVINGS IN TAXES. THE RISE IN WAGES THAT OCCURRED, MOST PREDOMINANTLY FOR BLUE COLLAR HARD WORKING AMERICANS, THE AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD INCOME FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR INCREASED BY $4,000 FOLLOWING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TAX CUTS. IN AMERICA YOU HEARD SENATOR HARRIS TELL YOU, ON DAY ONE JOE BIDEN ACE GOING TO RAISE YOUR TAXES. IT'S REMARKABLE TO THINK, SUSAN -- RIGHT AFTER A TIME THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WE'VE ALREADY ADDED BACK 11.6 MILLION JOBS BECAUSE WE HAD A PRESIDENT WHO CUT TAXES, ROLLED BACK REGULATION, FOUGHT FOR FREE AND FAIR TRADE AND SECURITY FOUR TRILLION DOLLARS FROM THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES TO GIVE DIRECT PAYMENTS TO FAMILIES. SAVE 50 MILLION JOBS THROUGH THE PAY CZECH PROTECTION PROGRAM. WE LITERALLY HAVE SPARED NO EXPENSE. JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS, ARE GOING TO RAISE TAXES. THEY WANT TO BURY OUR ECONOMY UNDER A TWO TRILLION DOLLAR NEW GREEN DEAL WHICH YOU WERE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL SPONSORS OF IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. WE WANTS TO BAN TRACKING WHICH WAS COST HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN JOBS ACROSS THE HEARTLAND. JOE BIDEN WANTS TO GO BACK TO ECONOMIC SURRENDER TO CHINA. JOE BIDEN WANTS TO REPEAL ALL TO HAVE TARIFFS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP PUT INTO EFFECT TO FIGHT FOR AMERICAN JOBS AND AMERICAN WORK. JOE BIDEN SAYS DEMOCRACY'S ON THE BALLOT. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, SUSAN, THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, THE AMERICAN COMEBACK IS ON THE BALLOT WITH FOUR MORE YEARS OF GROWTH -- >> THANK YOU. >> FOUR MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT PRESIDENT TRUMP -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT. >> BIGGEST ECONOMIC YEAR IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. SENATOR HARRIS? >> WE SAW NOTHING IN LAST WEEK'S DEBATE BUT I THINK THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A DEESHLT BASED ON FACT AND TRUTH. THE TRUTH AND THE FACT IS JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN CLEAR HE WILL NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYBODY MAKE LESS THAN $400,000. >> THE TAX CUT -- >> I'M SPEAKING. >> THE IMPORTANCE IS TRUTH. JOE BIDEN HAS SAID IT TWICE IN THE DEBATE LAST WEEK THAT HE'S GOING TO REPEAL TAX CUTS THAT GAVE THE AVERAGE WORKING FAMILY $2,000 IN A TAX BREAK EVERY SINGLE YEAR. >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY -- >> SENATOR -- >> NOT TRUE -- >> IS HE ONLY GOING TO REPEAL PART OF THE TAX CUTS? >> IF YOU DON'T MIND LETTING ME FINISH, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION. OK? >> PLEASE. >> OK. JOE BIDEN WILL NOT RAISE TAXES ON ANYBODY WHO MAKES LESS THAN $400,000 A YEAR. AND FRACKING, HE HAS BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THAT. JOE BIDEN IS THE ONE WHO DURING THE GREAT RECESSION WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RECOVERY ACT THAT BROUGHT AMERICA BACK AND NOW THE TRUMP-PENCE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO TAKE CREDIT WHEN THEY RAN -- WHEN THEY RODE THE COAT TAILS OF JOE BIDEN'S SUCCESS FOR THE ECONOMY THAT THEY HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF THEIR TERM. OF COURSE, NOW THE ECONOMY IS A COMPLETE DISASTER. BUT JOE BIDEN ON THE ONE HAND DID THAT. ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP, WHO HAS REIGNED OVER A RECESSION THAT IS BEING COMPARED TO THE GREAT DEPRESSION. ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE JOE BIDEN WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE WITH PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA FOR THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WHICH BROUGHT HEALTH CARE TO OVER 20 MILLION AMERICANS AND PROTECTED PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, AND WHAT IT ALSO DID IS IT SAVED THOSE FAMILIES WHO OTHERWISE WERE GOING BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF HOSPITAL BILLS THEY COULD NOT AFFORD. OERNDS, YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP WHO'S IN COURT RIGHT NOW TRYING TO -- >> SUSAN, PLEASE -- >> TRYING TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WHICH MEANS YOU'LL LOSE PROTECTIONS IF YOU HAVE PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT, SUSAN -- >> WE NEED TO GIVE VICE PRESIDENT -- >> HE INTERRUPTED ME. I'D LIKE TO FINISH. PLEASE. IF YOU HAVE A PREEXISTING CONDITION, HEART DISEASE, DIABETES, BREAST CANCER, THEY'RE COMING FOR YOU. IF YOU LOVE SOMEONE WHO HAS A PREEXISTING -- >> THAT'S NOT -- >> THANK YOU. >> IF YOU ARE UNDER THE AGE OF 26 ON YOUR PARENTS' COVERAGE, THEY'RE COMING FOR YOU. >> SENATOR HARRIS, THANK YOU. LET ME GIVE AH CHANCE TO RESPONSE. >> OBAMA CARE WAS A DISASTER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REMEMBER IT WELL. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I HAVE A PLAN TO IMPROVE HEALTH CARE AND TO PROTECT PREEXISTING CONDITIONS FOR EVERY AMERICAN. BUT, LOOK, SENATOR HARRIS HERE, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION BUT YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN FACTS. YOU YOURSELF SAID -- >> THAT'S FINE. >> WHEN YOU WERE RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THAT YOU WOULD BAN TRACKING. JOE BIDEN LOOKED A SUPPORTER IN THE EYE AND POINTED AND SAID I GUARANTEE, I GUARANTEE THAT WE WILL ABOLISH FOSSIL FUELINGS. WE HAVE A TWO TRILLION DOLLAR VERSION OF THE GREEN NEW DEAL WHO "USA TODAY" SAID WASN'T DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL GREEN DEAL. MORE TAXES, MORE REGULATIONS, BANNING FRACKING, CRUSHING AMERICAN ENERGY AND ECONOMIC SU REYNOLDSER TO CHINA IS A PRESCRIPTION FOR ECONOMIC DECLINE. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I WILL KEEP AMERICA GROWING. THE V.-SHAPE RECOVERY THAT'S UNDER WAY RIGHT NOW WILL CONTINUE WITH FOUR MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. YOU'VE PROVIDED THE PERFECT SEGUE TO A NEW TOPIC, WHICH IS CLIMATE CHANGE. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE I'D LIKE TO POSE THE FIRST QUESTION TO YOU. THIS YEAR WE'VE SEEN RECORD SETTING HURRICANES IN THE SOUTH. ANOTHER ONE, HURRICANE DELTA IS NOW THREATENING THE GULF. WE'VE SEEN RECORD SETTING WILDFIRES IN THE WEST. DO YOU BELIEVE, AS THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY HAS CONCLUDED, THAT MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE HAS MADE WILDFIRES BIGGER, HOTTER, AND MORE DEADLY AND HAVE MADE HURRICANES, WETTER, SLOWER, AND MORE DAMAGING. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. >> THANK YOU, SAW SAN. FIRST I'M PROUD OF OUR RECORD ON THE ENVIRONMENT. ACCORDING TO THE BEST ESTIMATES, OUR AIR AND LAND ARE CLEANER THAN ANY TIME EVER RECORDED. OUR WATER'S AMONG THE CLEANEST IN THE WORLD. JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THE PRESIDENT STIEND OUTDOORS ACT. THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN OUR PUBLIC LANDS AND PUBLIC PARKS IN A HUNDRED YEARS. SO PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE A COMMITMENT TO CONSERVATIONENED TO THE ENVIRONMENT. WITH REGARD TO CLIMATE CHANGE, THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING. BUT THE ISSUE IS WHAT'S THE CAUSE AND WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS MADE IT CLEAR WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE SCIENCE. JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS WOULD PUT US BACK IN THERE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD. THOUGHT IMPOSE THE GREEN NEW DEAL WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE COST OF AMERICAN FAMILIES IN THEIR HOMES AND LITERALLY WOULD CRUSH AMERICAN JOBS. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PROGRESS THAT WE HAVE MADE IN A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT HAS BEEN HAPPENING PRECISELY BECAUSE WE HAVE A STRONG FREE MARKET ECONOMY. YOU KNOW, WHAT'S REMARKABLE IS THE UNITED STATES HAS REDUCED CO 2 MORE THAN THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE STILL IN THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD BUT WE'VE DAYTONA THIN OVATION AND WE'VE DONE IT THROUGH NATURAL GAS AND FRACKING, WHICH SENATOR, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN GO LOOK AT THE RECORD. I KNOW JOE BIDEN SAYS OTHERWISE NOW, AS YOU DO, BUT THE BOTH OF YOU REPEATEDLY COMMITTED TO ABOLISHING FOSSIL FUEL AND BANNING FRACKING. SO BY CREATING THE KIND OF AMERICAN INNOVATION WE'RE ACTUALLY STEERING TOWARD A STRONGER AND BETTER ENVIRONMENT. WITH REGARD TO WILDFIRES, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I BELIEVE THE FOREST MANAGEMENT HAS TO BE FRONT AND CENTER AND EVEN GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM FROM YOUR STATES AGREED WE HAVE TO WORK ON FOREST MANAGEMENT. WITH REGARDS TO HURRICANES, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> THERE ARE NO MORE HURRICANES THAN THERE WERE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO. >> THANK YOU. >> BUT MANY OF THE ALARM -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> OF A GREEN NEW DEAL AND PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I ARE -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> AMERICAN WORKERS FIRST. >> YOU CO-SPONSORED THE GREEN NEW DEAL IN CONGRESS. VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID LAST WEEK THAT HE DOES NOT SUPPORT THE GREEN NEW DEAL. IF YOU LOOK AT BIDEN-HARRIS PLATFORM ITS DESCRIBES THE NEW DEAL AS A FRAMEWORK. WHAT WOULD BE THE STANCE OF YOUR ADMINISTRATION TOWARD THE GREEN NEW DEAL? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. >> FIRST OF ALL, I WILL REPEAT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW, THAT JOE BIDEN WILL NOT BAN FRACKING. THAT IS A FACTS. THAT IS A FACT. I WILL REPEAT THAT JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT HE THINKS ABOUT GROWING JOBS, WHICH IS WHY HE WILLE NOT INCREASE TAXES FOR ANYONE MAKING LESS THAN $400,000 A YEAR. JOE BIDEN'S ECONOMIC PLAN MOODY'S, A REPUTABLE WALL STREET FIRM, HA SAID WILL CREATE SEVEN MILLION MORE AMERICAN JOBS THAN DONALD TRUMP'S. PART OF THE JOBS THAT WILL BE CREATED BY JOE BIDEN ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT CLEAN ENERGY AND RENEWABLE ENERGY, BECAUSE YOU SEE, JOE UNDERSTANDS THAT THE WEST COAST OF OUR COUNTRY IS BURNING, INCLUDING MY HOME STATE OF CALIFORNIA. JOE SEES WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GULF COAST STATES WHICH ARE BEING BATTERED BY STORMS. JOE HAS SEEN AND TALKED WITH THE FARMERS IN IOWA, WHOSE ENTIRE CROPS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED BECAUSE OF FLOODS. SO JOE BELIEVES IN SCIENCE. I TELL YOU SMRKS SUSAN. I SERVED ON THE COMMITTEE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. DO YOU KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION TOOK THE WORD "SCIENCE" OFF THE WEBSITE AND THEN TOOK THE PHRASE "CLIMATE CHANGE" OFF THE WEBSITES. THIS -- WE HAVE SEEN A PATTERN WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION, WHICH IS THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE. JOE'S PLAN IS ABOUT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH IT BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CREATE JOBS. DONALD TRUMP, WHEN ASKED ABOUT THE WILDFIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND THE QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, THE -- YOU KNOW WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID? SCIENCE DOESN'T KNOW. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHO IS PREPARED TO LEAD OUR COUNTRY OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FOUR YEARS ON WHAT IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO US AS HUMAN BEINGS. JOE IS ABOUT SAYING WE'RE GOING TO INVEST THAT IN RENEWABLE ENERGY, GIEGTSZ TO BE ABOUT THE CREATION OF MILLIONS OF JOBS, WE WILL ACHVE ZERO MISSIONS BY 2050, CARBON NEUTRAL BY 2035. JOE HAS A PLAN. THIS HAS BEEN A LOT OF TALK FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND REALLY IT HAS BEEN TO GO BACKWARD INSTEAD OF FOEMPLTD WE WILLE ENTER THE AGREEMENT WITH PRIDE. >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, DO YOU BELIEF THAT CLIMATE CHANGE POSES AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT? >> SUSAN, THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING. WE'LL FOLLOW THE SCIENCE. ONCE AGAIN, SENATOR HARRIS IS DENIES THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RAISE TAXES IN AMERICA. JOE BIDEN SAID DEVICE IN THE DEBATE LAST WEEK THAT ON DAY ONE HE WAS GOING TO REPEAL TRUMP TAX CUTS. THOSE TAX CUTS DELIVERED $2,000 IN TAX RELIEF TO THE AVERAGE FAMILY OF FOUR ACROSS AMERICA. WITH REGARD TO BANNING FRACKING, I RECOMMEND THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT THE RECORD. YOU YOURSELF SAID REPEATEDLY THAT YOU WOULD BAN FRACKING. YOU WERE THE FIRST SENATE CO-BORN OF THE GREEN NEW DEAL. WHILE JOE BIDEN DENIED THE GREEN NEW DEAL THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS ON THEIR WEBSITE AND AS U.S. TODAY TODAY SAYS IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PLAN YOU CO-SPONSORED 100% IN THE SENATE. YOU HEARD THE SENATOR SAY SHE'S GOING TO RESUBMIT AMERICA TO THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS CHERISHED OUR ENVIRONMENT. WE CONTINUE TO CHERISH IT. WE MADE GREAT PROGRESS REDUCING CO 2 EMISSIONS. WE DON'T NEED A MASSIVE $2 TRILLION GREEN NEW DEAL THAT WOULD IMPOSE ALL NEW MANDATES ON AMERICAN BUSINESSES AND AMERICAN FAMILIES. >> THANK YOU. >> JOE BIDEN WANTS TO -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> WANTS TO -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> IT MAKES NO SECHBLTS IT WILL COST JOBS. PRURCH -- >> THANK YOU, VICE PRESIDENT. >> WE'RE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF OUR ENVIRONMENT AND FOLLOW THE SIGNS. >> THANK YOU A. >> ON THE ISSUE OF JOBS -- >> SENATOR HARRIS. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. THE VICE PRESIDENT EARLIER REFERRED TO IT AS PART OF -- WHAT HE THINKS IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. BUT THE PRESIDENT'S TRADE WAR WITH CHINA. YOU LOST THAT TRADE WAR. YOU LOST IT. WHAT HAPPENED IS BECAUSE OF A SO-CALLED TRADE WAR WITH CHIERNGS AMERICA LOST 300,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS. FARMERS HAVE EXPERIENCED BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE OF IT. WE ARE IN A MANUFACTURING RECESSION BECAUSE OF IT. AND WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN, THERE ARE ESTIMATES THAT BY THE END OF THE TERM OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, THEY WILL HAVE LOST MORE JOBS THAN ALMOST ANY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATION. >> SUSAN -- >> AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. YOU KNOW -- I THINK ABOUT 20-YEAR-OLDS. WE HAVE A 20-YEAR-OLD. 20 SOMETHING-YEAR-OLD. >> SUSAN -- >> COMING OUT OF COLLEGE RIGHT NOW AND YOU'RE WONDERING WILL THERE BE A JOB FOR ME. WE'RE LOOKING AT YOUNG PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GOING TO PAY RENT BY HALF OF THE MONTH. ALMOST HALF OF AMERICAN RENTERS ARE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PAY RENTED BY THE END OF THE MONTH. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE IN THE AMERICAN ECONOMIC RIGHT HERE. IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CATASTROPHE OF FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. 15 SECONDS TO RESPOND, VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> I'D LOVE TO RESPOND. LOOK, LOST THE TRADE WAR WITH CHINA. JOE BIDEN NEVER FATE. JOE BIDEN'S BEEN A CHEERLEADER FOR COMMUNIST CHINA OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES AND AGAIN, SENATOR HARRIS, YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION. YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO YOUR OWN FACTS. WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS VICE PRESIDENT WE LOST 200,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID THEY'D NEVER COME BACK. WE NEEDED A MAGIC WAND -- >> THANK YOU. >> UNLEASHED AMERICAN ENERGY, THIS ADMINISTRATION SAW 500,000 -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> THAT'S EXACTLY THE KIND OF GROWTH WE'LL CONTINUE TO -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> THE GREEN NEW DEAL -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> GOING TO KILL JOBS THIS TIME JUST LIKE IT -- >> I NEED TO RESPOND BRIEFLY. >> 20 SECONDS AND WE'LL MOVE ON. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. JOE BIDEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SAVING AMERICA'S AUTO INDUSTRY AND YOU VOTED AGAINST IT, SO LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. THANK YOU. >> I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT CHINA. WE HAVE AS OUR NEXT TOPIC, WE HAVE NO MORE COMPLICATED OR CONSEQUENTIAL FOREIGN RELATIONSHIP THAN THE ONE WITH CHINA. IT IS A HUGE MARKET FOR AMERICAN AGRICULTURAL GOODS. IT'S A POTENTIAL PARTNER IN DEALING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE IN NORTH KOREA. IN A VIDEO TONIGHT PRESIDENT TRUMP BLAMED IT FOR THE CORONAVIRUS, SAYING CHINA WILL PAY. VICE PRESIDENT PENS, HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE OUR FUNDAMENTAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA, COMPETITORS, ADVERSARIES, ENEMIES? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> THANK YOU, SUSAN. WELL, LET ME -- BEFORE I LEAVE THAT, LET ME SPEAK TO VOTING RECORDS, IF I CAN. YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT NAFTA COST LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF AMERICAN FACTORIES TO CLOSE. WE SAW AUTOMOTIVE JOBS GO SOUTH OF THE BORDER. PRESIDENT TRUMP FOUGHT TO RENEGOTIATE NAFTA. AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW. SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS WAS ONE OF ONLY TEN MEMBERS OF THE SENATE TO VOTE AGAINST THE USNCA. IT WAS A HUGE WIN FOR AMERICAN AUTO WORKERS. IT WAS A HUGE WIN FOR AMERICAN FARMERS, ESPECIALLY DAIRY IN THE UPPER MIDWEST, BUT SENATOR, YOU SAID IT DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH ON CLIMATE CHANGE. >> UH-HUH. >> YOU PUT YOUR RADICAL ENVIRONMENTAL AGENDA AHEAD OF AMERICAN AUTO WORKERS AND AHEAD OF AMERICAN JOBS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW THAT. IT'S PROBABLY WHY NEWS WEEK MAGAZINE SAYS THAT KAMALA HARRIS WAS THE MOST LIBERAL MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE? 2019. MORE LIBERAL THAN BERNIE SANDERS, MORE LIBERAL THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE. WITH REGARD TO CHINA, LOOK, SUSAN, FIRST AND FOREMOST, CHINA IS TO BLAME FOR THE CORONAVIRUS. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. HE'S MADE THAT VERY CLEAR. MADE CLEAR AGAIN TODAY CHINA AND THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION DO NOT PLAY STRAIGHT WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THEY DID NOT LET OUR PERSONNEL INTO CHINA TO GET INFORMATION ON THE CORONAVIRUS UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF FEBRUARY. FORTUNATELY, PRESIDENT TRUMP IN DEALING WITH CHINA FROM THE OUTSET OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, STANDING UP TO CHINA THAT HAD BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF AMERICA FOR DECADES IN THE WAKE OF JOE BIDEN'S CHEERLEADING FOR CHINA, PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE THAT DECISION BEFORE THE END OF JANUARY TO SUSPEND ALL TRAVEL FROM CHINA. AGAIN, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW, JOE BIDEN OPPOSED PRESIDENT TRUMP'S DECISION TO SUSPEND ALL TRAVEL FROM CHINA. HE SAID IT WAS HYSTERICAL. HE SAID IT WAS -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> -- THE PRESIDENT -- CONTINUE TO STAND STRONG -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE RELATIONSHIP AND WE'RE GOING TO -- >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> HOLD CHINA ACCOUNTABLE. >> SENATOR HARRIS I WANT TO ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED THE VICE PRESIDENTS. HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE OUR FUNDAMENTAL RELATIONSHIP WITH CHINA? ARE WE COMPETITORS, ADVERSARIES, ENEMIES? YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES UNINTERRUPTSED. >> SUSAN, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE AND APPROACH TO CHINA HAS RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF AMERICAN LIVES, AMERICAN JOBS, AND AMERICA'S STANDING. THERE'S A WEIRD OBSESSION THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS HAD WITH GETTING RID OF WHATEVER ACCOMPLISHMENT WAS ACHIEVED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY CREATED WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE AN OFFICE THAT BASICALLY WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING PANDEMICS. THEY GOT AWAY -- THEY GOT RID OF. >> NOT TRUE. >> THERE WAS A TEAM OF DISEASE EXPERTS THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA AND VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN DISPATCHED TO CHINA. TO MONITOR WHAT IS NOW PREDICTABLE AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN. THEY PULLED THEM OUT. WE NOW ARE LOOKING AT 210,000 AMERICANS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES. LET'S LOOK AT THE JOB SITUATION. WE MENTIONED BEFORE, THE TRADE DEAL. THE TRADE WAR. THEY WANTED TO CALL IT WITH CHINA. IT RESULTED IN THE LOSS OF OVER 300 MANUFACTURING JOBS AND THE MANUFACTURING RECESSION AND THE AMERICAN CONSUMER PAYING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MORE FOR GOODS BECAUSE OF THAT FAILED WAR THAT THEY CALLED IT. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT STANDING. P PUGH HAS DONE AN ANALYSIS THAT SHOWS THAT LEADERS OF ALL OF OUR FORMERLY ALLIED COUNTRIES HAVE NOW DECIDED THAT THEY HOLD IN GREATER ESTEEM AND RESPECT XI JINPING, THE HEAD OF THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY THAN THEY DO DONALD TRUMP, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. BECAUSE OF A FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP BY THIS ADMINISTRATION. >> SENATOR HARRIS, WE'VE SEEN CHANGES IN THE ROLE OF THE UNITED STATES IN TERMS OF GLOBAL LEADERSHIP OVER THE PAST FOUR YEARS. AND OF COURSE TIMES DO CHANGE. WHAT'S YOUR DEFINITION? WE'VE SEEN STRAINS WITH CHINA, OF COURSE, AS THE VICE PRESIDENT MENTIONED. WE'VE SEEN STRAINS WITH OUR TRADITIONAL ALLIES IN NATO AND ELSE WHERE. WHAT IS YOUR DEFINITION OF THE ROLE OF AMERICAN LEADERSHIP IN 2020? >> SO, YOU KNOW, JOE IS -- I LOVE TALKING WITH JOE ABOUT A LOT OF THESE ISSUES. JOE, HE -- I THINK YOU SAID IT QUITE WELL. HE SAYS FOREIGN POLICY MIGHT SOUND COMPLICATED BUT REALLY IT'S RELATIONSHIPS. THINK ABLE TO AS RELATIONSHIPS, SO WE KNOW THIS IN OUR PERSONAL AND PROFESSIONAL RELATIONSHIPS. YOU GOT TO KEEP YOUR WORD TO YOUR FRIENDS, BE LOYAL TO YOUR FRIENDS. PEOPLE WHO STOOD WITH YOU, GOT TO STAND WITH THEM. YOU GOT TO KNOW WHO YOUR ADVERSARIES ARE AND KEEP THEM IN CHECK. BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN WITH DONALD TRUMP IS THAT HE HAS BETRAYED OUR FRIENDS AND BETRAYED -- AND EMBRACED DICTATORS AROUND THE WORLD. LET'S TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, RUSSIA. SO RUSSIA -- I SERVE ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE OF THE UNITED STATES SENATE. AMERICA'S INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY TOLD US RUSSIA INTERFERED IN THE ELECTION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 2016 AND IS PLAYING IN 2020. CHRISTIAN REA, THE DIRECTOR OF THE FBI SAID THE SAME. DONALD TRUMP, THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PREFERS TO TAKE THE WORD OF VLADIMIR PUTIN OVER THE WORD OF THE AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY. YOU LOOK AT OUR FRIENDS AT NATO. HE HAS WALKED AWAY FROM AGREEMENTS. YOU CAN -- LOOK AT THE IRE RAN NUCLEAR DEAL WHICH HAS PUTS US IN A POSITION WHERE WE ARE LESS SAFE BECAUSE THEY ARE BUILDING UP. WE WERE IN THAT DEAL, WE WERE IN THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL WITH FRIENDS, ALLIES AROUND THE COUNTRY BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP'S UNILATERAL APPROACH TO FOREIGN POLICY, CUP MD WITH HIS ISOLATIONISM, HE PULLED US OUT AND HAS MADE AMERICA LESS SAFE. SO SUSAN, IT'S ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS. THE THINGS THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THE STRENGTH OF OUR NATION, IN ADDITION TO OUR GREAT MILITARY HAS BEEN THAT WE KEEP OUR WORD. BUT DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. BECAUSE HE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HONEST. >> THANK YOU, THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, RESPOND. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP KEPT HIS WORD WHEN WE MOVED THE AMERICAN BAHAMAS IN EMBASSY TO ISRAEL. WE STROOD STWRONG OUR ALLIES BUT WE'VE BEEN DEMANDING. NATO IS CONTRIBUTING MORE TO OUR COMMON DEFENSE THAN EVER BEFORE THANKS TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LEADERSHIP. WE'VE STRENGTHENED OUR ALLIANCES ACROSS THE YASIA-PACIFIC. WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP CAME INTO OFFICE ISIS HAD CAPTURED AN AREA OF THE MIDDLE EAST THE SIZE OF PENNSYLVANIA. PRESIDENT TRUMP UNLEASHED THE AMERICAN MILITARY AND OUR ARMED FORCES DESTROYED ISIS CALIPHATE AND TOOK DOWN THEIR LEADER AL BAGHDADI WITHOUT ONE CASUALTY. EL AL BAGHDADI WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS. KAYLA MILLER, THE PARENTS OF WHOM ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT IN SALT LAKE CITY. TODAY TWO THE ISIS KILLERS RESPONSIBLE FOR KAYLA MILLER'S MURDER WERE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE IN THE UNITED STATES. JIHADI JOHN WAS KILLED ALONG THE OTHER BEATLE. THE UMBRELLA IS THAT WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS VICE PRESIDENT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE KAYLA MILLER. BREAKS MY HEART TO THE REFLECT ON IT BUT THE MILITARY CAME INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, PRESENTED A PLAN. THEY SAID THEY KNEW WHERE KAYLA WAS. BAGHDADI HELD HER AND TORTURED HER. WHEN ARMED FORCES FINALLY BENT IN, IT WAS CLEAR SHE'D BEEN MOVED TWO DAYS EARLIER HAERNLD FAMILY SAYS WITH -- IT BROKE THE HEART OF EVERY AMERICAN THAT IF PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP WOULD HAVE BEEN ALIVE THEY BELIEVE KAYLA WOULD BE ALIVE TODAY. >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT -- >> YOU TALK ABOUT REENTERING THE IRAN NUCLEAR DEAL. 1.8 BILLION DOLLARS WENT TO THE LEADING STATE SPONSOR -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> WHEN SAL MANNY WAS TRAVELING TO BAGHDAD -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> AMERICA IS SAFER, OUR ALLIES ARE SAFER. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> TAKE ACTION. >> I'D LIKE TO -- >> SENATOR HARRIS, A CHANCE TO RESPOND. NOT AT SUCH GREAT LENGTH. >> I WOULD LIKE EQUAL TIME. >> YES. >> THANK YOU. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> FIRST OF ALL, TO THE MILLER FAMILY, I KNOW ABOUT YOUR DAUGHTER'S CASE AND I AM SO SORRY. I AM SO SORRY. WHAT HAPPENED TO HER IS AWFUL AND IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED. AND I KNOW JOE FEELS THE SAME WAY, AND I KNOW THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA FEELS THE SAME WAY. YOU MENTIONED SULAIMANY. LET'S START THERE. AFTER THE STRIKE ON SULAIMANY, THERE WAS A COUNTERSTRIKE ON OUR TROOPS IN IRAQ. AND THEY SUFFERED SERIOUS BRAIN INJURIES. YOU KNOW MA DRAUMP DISMISSED THEM AS? HEADACHES. THIS IS ABOUT A PATTERN OF DONALD TRUMPS WHERE HE HAS REFERRED TO OUR MEN WHO ARE SERVING IN OUR MILITARY AS SUCKERS AND LOSERS. DONALD TRUMP, WHO WENT TO ARLINGTON CEMETERY AND STOOD ABOVE THE GRAVES OF OUR FALLEN HEROES AND SAID WHAT'S IN IT FOR THEM. BECAUSE, OF COURSE, YOU -- ALL HE THINKS ABOUT IS WHAT'S IN IT FOR HIM. LET'S TAKE WHAT HE SAID ABOUT JOHN McCAIN, A GREAT AMERICAN HERO, AND DONALD TRUMP SAYS HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE CALLED A HERO BECAUSE HE WAS A PRISONER OF WAR. TAKE -- AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHO IS THE CURRENT COMMANDER IN CHIEF AND WHAT THEY CARE ABOUT AND WHAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT. PUBLIC REPORTING THAT RUSSIA HAS KBROINT BOUNTIES ON THE HEADS OF AMERICAN SOLDIERS. YOU KNOW WHAT A BOUNTY IS? SOMEBODY PUTS A PRICE ON YOUR HEAD AND THEY WILL PAY IT IF YOU ARE KILLED. DONALD TRUMP HAD TALKED AT LEAST SIX TIMES TO VLADIMIR PUTIN AND NEVER BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT. JOE BIDEN WOULD NEVER DO THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> JOE BIDEN -- >> YEAH. >> JOE BIDEN WOULD HOLD RUSSIA TO ACCOUNT FOR ANY THREATS TO OUR NATION'S SECURITY OR TO OUR TROOPS WHO ARE SACRIFICING THEIR LIVES FOR THE SAKE OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND OUR SAFETY. >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT ISSUE BUT WE HAVE OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES AS WELL. >> SUSAN -- >> I WANT TO MAKE SURE -- >> I REALLY -- >> 15 SECONDS, BECAUSE -- >> I GOT TO HAVE MORE THAN THAT. LOOK. >> IERGES VICE PRESIDENT. YOU'VE HAD MORETIME THAN SHE'S HAD -- >> THE AGAINST DONALD TRUMP REGARDING MINIMUM OF OUR ARMED SOURCES ARE ABSURD. >> I'M SORRY. >> MY SON-IN-LAW'S DEPROVIDED IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY. I CAN ASSURE ALL OF YOU THE SONS AND DAUGHTERS SERVING IN OUR MILITARY, PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP NOT ONLY RESPECTS BUT REVERES ALL OF THOSE WHO SERVE IN OUR ARMED FORCES AND ANY SUGGESTION OTHERWISE IS RIDICULOUS. >> LET ME VICE PRESIDENT SPENCE -- >> YOU KNOW WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE -- >> I DIDN'T -- >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE -- >> I DID NOT. >> SUSAN -- >> I DID NOT CREATE FOR TONIGHT. >> JOE BIDEN -- >> YOUR KAM PAINS AGREED TO THE RULES. I'M HERE TO ENFORCE THEM, WHICH INVOLVES MOVING FROM ONE TOPIC TO ANOTHER, GIVING ROUGHLY EQUAL TIME TO BOTH OF YOU JOOGDS. >> I WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE NEXT TOPIC, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT ONE AS THE LAST TOPIC WAS. THAT IS THE SUPREME COURT. ON MONDAY, THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN HEARINGS ON AMY CONEY BARRETT'S NOMINATION TO THE SUPREME COURT. SENATOR HARRIS, YOU'LL BE THERE AS A MEMBER OF COMMITTEE. >> YEAH. >> HER NOMINATION WOULD CEMENT THE CONSERVATIVE MAJORITY AND MAKE IT LIKELY OPEN TO MORE ABORTION RESTRICTIONS, EVEN TO OVERTURNING THE LANDMARK ROE V WADE CASE. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE YOU'RE THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF INDIANA. IF ROE V. WADE WAS OVERDURNLD, WOO WANT YOUR HOME STATE TO BAN ALL ABORTIONS. >> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, BUT I'LL USE A LITTLE BIT OF MY TIME TO RESPOND TO THAT VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE BEFORE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW ACROSS SOLE MANNY, THE IRAN GENERAL WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HUNDREDS OF AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS. WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY CAME WE SAW HIM HEADED TO BAGHDAD TO KILL MORE AMERICANS. PRESIDENT TRUMP DIDN'T HESITATE AND SULAIMANY IS GONE. YOU DESERVE TO KNOW THAT JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS ACTUALLY CRITICIZED THE DECISION TO TAKE HIM OUT. IT'S INEXPLICABLE BUT WITH REGARD TO JOE BIDEN, IT'S EXPLAINABLE. HISTORY RECORDS THAT JOE BIDEN ACTUALLY OPPOSED THE RAID AGAINST OSAMA BIN LADEN. IT'S ESSENTIAL THAT WE HAVE A COMMANDER IN CHIEF WHO WILL NOT HESITATE TO ACT TO PROTECT AMERICAN LIVES AND TO PROTECT AMERICAN SERVICE MEMBERS AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. NOW, WITH REGARD TO THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, LET ME SAY PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I COULD NOT BE MORE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY SEE JUDGE AMY CONEY BARRETT BECOME JUSTICE AMY CONEY BARRETT. SHE'S A BRILLIANT WOMAN AND SHE'LL BRING A LIFETIME OF EXPERIENCE AND A SIZEABLE AMERICAN FAMILY TO THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES. OUR HOPE IS IN THE HEARING NEXT WEEK UNLIKE JUSTICE KAVANAGH RECEIVED WITH TREATMENT YOU AND OTHERS, WE HOPE SHE GETS A FAIR HEARING AND WE PARTICULARLY HOPE THAT WE DON'T SEE THE KIND OF ATTACKS ON HER CHRISTIAN FAITH THAT WE SAW BEFORE. DEMOCRAT CHAIRMAN OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE BEFORE -- WHEN JUDGE BARRETT WAS BEING CONFIRMED FOR THE COURT OF APPEALS, ITS FIRST CONCERN THAT THE DOGMA OF HER FAITH LIVED LOUD LID IN HER. DICK DURBIN OF ILLINOIS SAID IT WAS A CONCERN. SENATOR, I KNOW ONE OF OUR JUDICIAL NOMINAEES, YOU ACTUALL ATTACKED BECAUSE THEY WERE A MEMBER OF THE KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS JUST BECAUSE THEY HOLD PRO LIFE -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> JUDGE AMY CONEY BARRETT WILL BE -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> VOTED AND CONFIRMED TO THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> SENATOR HARRIS, YOU'RE THE SENATOR AND FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL OF CALIFORNIA. LET ME ASK YOU A PARALLEL QUESTION TO THE ONE I POSED TO THE VICE PRESIDENT. IF ROE VERSUS WADE IS OVERTURNED, WHAT WOULD YOU WANTS CALIFORNIA TO DO? WOULD YOU WANT TO ENACT NOTHING RESTRICTIONS ON ACCESS TO ABORTION AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES UNINTERRUPTED. >> THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, JOE BIDEN AND I ARE BOTH PEOPLE OF FAITH. IT'S INSULTING TO SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD KNOCK ANYONE FOR THEIR FAITH. AND IN FACT, JOE, IF ELECTED, WILL BE ONLY THE SECOND PRACTICING CATHOLIC AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. ON THE ISSUE OF THIS NOMINATION, JOE AND I ARE VERY CLEAR, AS ARE THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE ARE 27 DAYS BEFORE THE DECISION ABOUT WHO WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND YOU KNOW BEFORE THE WAY THIS CONVERSATION HAS COMING UP, IT'S ABOUT ELECTION YEAR OR ELECTION TIME. WE'RE LITERALLY IN AN ELECTION. OVER FOUR MILLION PEOPLE HAVE VOTED. PEOPLE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF VOTING RIGHT NOW. SO JOE HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR, AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE, LET THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FILL THAT SEAT IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEN WE'LL FILL THAT SEAT ON THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. TO YOUR POINT, SUSAN, THEISHES BEFORE US COULDN'T BE MORE SERIOUS, THERE'S THE ISSUE OF CHOICE AND I WILL ALWAYS FIGHT FOR A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT HER OWN BODY IT SHOULD BE HER OWN DECISION AND NOT THAT OF DONALD TRUMP AND VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. LET'S LOOK AT WHALES IS BEFORE THE COURT. TIGHTS AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. LITERALLY IN THE MIDST OF A PUBLIC HEALTH PANDEMIC, WHEN OVER 210,000 PEOPLE HAVE DIED AND SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE PROBABLY HAVE WHAT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE CONSIDERED A PREEXISTING CONDITION BECAUSE YOU CONTRACTED THE VIRUS. DONALD TRUMP IS IN COURT RIGHT NOW TRYING TO GET RID OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. AND I SAID IT BEFORE. IT BEARS REPEATING. THIS MEANS THAT THERE WILLE BE NO MORE PROTECTIONS IF THEY WIN FOR PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. >> NO. >> THIS MEANS THAT OVER 20 MILLION PEOPLE WILL LOSE YOUR COVERAGE. IT MEANS THAT IF YOU'RE UNDER THE AGE OF 26, YOU ARE CAN'T STAY ON YOUR PARENTS' COVERAGE ANYWHERE. HERE'S THE THING. THE CONTEST COULDN'T BE MORE CLEAR. THEY'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THE FANCHT JOESHD'S SAYING LET'S EXPAND COVERAGE, GIVE YOU CHOICE. >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. >> MEDICARE EL JACKET TO 60. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT'S TRUE LEADERSHIP. >> YOU MENTIONED EARLIER VICE PRESIDENT PENCE THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING PROTECTIONS FOR PEOPLE WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS. AND -- BUT YOU DO HAVE THIS COURT CHASE YOUR ADMINISTRATION'S SUPPORTING THAT WOULD STRIKE DOWN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. THE PRESIDENT SAYS -- PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS HE'S GOING TO PROTECT BEAM PREEXISTING CONDITIONS BUT HE HAS NOT EXPLAINED HOW HE WOULD DO THAT. THAT WAS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST NUTS TO CRACK WHEN THEY WERE PASSING THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT. TELL US SPECIFICALLY WHEW YOUR ADMINISTRATION PROTECT AMERICANS WITH PREEXISTING CONDITIONS TO HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE INSURANCE IF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT IS STRUCK DOWN? >> WELL, THANK YOU SUSAN. LET ME JUST SAY ADDRESSING YOUR VERY FIRST QUESTION. I COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD TO SERVE AS VICE PRESIDENT TO A PRESIDENT WHO STANDS WITHOUT APOLOGY FOR THE SANKTSITY OF HUMAN LIFE. I'M PRO LIFE. I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR ITS. AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE THERE'S SUCH A DRAMATIC CONTRAST. JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS SUPPORT TAXPAYER FUNDING OF ABORTION ALL THEUP TO THE MOMENT OF BIRTH. LATE TERM ABORTION. THEY WANTS TO INCREASE FUNDING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD OF AMERICA. I WOULD NEVER PRESUME NOW JUDGE AMY CONEY BARRETT WOULD RULE ON THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO STAND STRONG FOR THE RIGHT TO LIFE. WHEN YOU SPEAK ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT, THOUGH I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REALLY DESERVE AN ANSWER, SENATOR HARRIS. ARE YOU AND JOE BIDEN GOING TO PACK THE COURT IF JUDGE AMY CONEY BARRETT IS CONFIRMED? THERE HAVE BEEN 29 VA CANS SIS DURING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION YEARS. PRESIDENTS HAVE NOMINATED IN ALL 29 CASES. YOUR PARTY IS ACTUALLY OPENLY ADD KAGT ADDING SEATS TO THE SUPREME COURT WHICH HAS HAD NINE SEATS FOR 150 YEARS. YOU DON'T GET YOUR WAY. THIS IS A CLASSIC CASE OF THE YOU CAN'T WIN BY THE RULES, YOU'RE GOING TO CHANGE THE RULINGS. YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. JOE BIDEN HAS TROPHIED ANSWER THE QUESTION. I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IF JUDGE AMY CONEY BARRETT IS CONFIRMED BY THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, ARE YOU AND JOE BIDEN, IF SOMEHOW YOU WIN THIS ELECTION GOING TO PACK THE SUPREME COURT TO GET YOUR WAY? >> I'M SO GLAD WE WENT THROUGH A LITTLE HISTORY LESSON. LET'S DO THAT A LITTLE MORE. IN H 1864 -- >> WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION. >> MR. VICE PRESIDENT, I'M SPEAKING. I'M SPEAKING. OK. IN 1864 ONE OF THE I THINK POLITICAL HEROES CERTAINLY OF THE PRESIDENT. I ASSUME YOU ALSO MR. VICE PRESIDENT IS ABRAHAM LINCOLN. HE WAS UP FOR RE-ELECTION. AND IT WAS 27 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION. AND A SEAT BECAME OPEN ON THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT. ABRAHAM LINCOLN'S PARTY WAS IN CHARGE NOT ONLY OF THE WHITE HOUSE BUT OF THE SENATE. BUT HONEST ABE SAID, NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT WHO WILL BE THE NEXT MTS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THEN THAT PERSON CAN SELECT WHO WILL SERVE FOR A LIFETIME ON THE HIGHEST COURT OF OUR LAND. AND SO JOE AND I ARE VERY CLEAR, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE VOTING RIGHT NOW. AND IT SHOULD BE THEIR DECISION ABOUT WHO WILL SERVE ON THIS MOST IMPORTANT BODY FOR A LIFETIME. >> THANK YOU. >> SUSAN -- >> SENATOR HARRIS -- >> VOTING RIGHT NOW. THEY'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU AND JOE BIDEN ARE GOING TO PACK THE SKROFRT IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR WAY MANY THIS NOIPGS? >> LET'S TALK ABOUT PACKING, COME ON. >> AN ANSWER. JOE BIDEN GAVE A NONANSWER. THE PEOPLE DESERVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER. IF YOU HAVEN'T FIGURED I WOULD OUT T YET, THE STRAIGHT ANSWER IS THEY ARE GOING TO PACK THE SUPREME COURT. IF THEY SOMEHOW WIN THIS ELECTION. I -- >> NOW -- >> PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IF YOU CHERISH OUR SUPREME COURT, IF YOU CHER TISSUE SEPARATION OF POWERS YOU NEED TO REJECT THE BEHIND-HARRIS TICKET AND COME NOVEMBER 3rd ELECT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. >> TALK ABOUT PACKING THE COURT, THEN. LET'S TALK -- >> PLEASE. >> I'M ABOUT TO. SO THE TRUMP-PENCE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN -- BECAUSE I SIT ON THE SENATE JISHY COMMITTEE, SUSAN, AS YOU MENTIONED, AND I HAVE WITNESSED THE LIFETIME APPOINTMENTS TO THE FEDERAL COURTS, DISTRICT COURTS, COURTS OF APPEAL. PEOPLE WHO ARE PURELY IDEA LODGE KASHLGS PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY ORGANIZATION AND FOUND TO BE NOT COMPETENT OR SUBSTANDARD, AND DO YOU KNOW THAT OF THE 50 PEOPLE WHO PRESIDENT TRUMP APPOINTED TO THE COURT OF APPEALS FOR LIFETIME AAPPOINTMENTS, NOT ONE IS BLACK. THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT PACKING THE COURT. LET'S HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. >> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU SENATOR. LET'S GO ON AND TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF RACIAL JUSTICE. >> I JUST WANT THE RECORD TO HE FLEKT SHE NEVER ANSWERED THE QUESTION. MAYBE IN THE NEXT DEBATE JOE BIDEN WILL ANSWER THE QUESTION BUT I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW THE ANSWER. >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT. IN MARCH, BREONNA TAYLOR, A 26-YEAR-OLD EMERGENCY ROOM TECH DMIGS IN LOUISVILLE WAS SHOT AND KILLED AFTER A POLICE WARRANT BROKE INTO HER APARTMENT. THE POLICE SAID THEY IDENTIFIED THEMSELVES. TAYLOR'S BOYFRIEND SAID HE DIDN'T HEAR THEM DO THAT. HE USED A GUN STRERDS TO HIM TO FIRE A SHOT WHICH WOUNDED AN OFFICER. THE OFFICERS FIRED MORE THAN 20 ROUNDS INTO THE APARTMENT. THEY SAID THEY WERE ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN INDICTED IN CONNECTION WITH HER DEATH. SENATOR HARRIS, WAS JUSTICE DONE IN THE CASE OF BRIONNA TAYLOR? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I'VE TALKED TO BREONNA'S MOTHER TAMEKA PALMER AND HER FAMILY. SHE WAS A BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN. SHE HAD AS HER LIFE GOAL TO BECOME A NURSE AND SHE WANTED TO BECOME AN EMT TO LEARN WHAT'S GOING ON OUT ON THE STREET SO SHE COULD BECOME A NURSE AND SAY LIVES AND HER LIFE WAS TAKEN UNJUSTIFIABLY AND VIOLENTLY. IT BRINGS ME TO, YOU KNOW, THE 8:46 THAT AMERICA WITNESSED DURING WHICH AN AMERICAN MAN WAS TORTURED AND KILLED UNDER THE KNEE OF AN ARMED UMPLD POLICE OFFICER. AND PEOPLE AROUND OUR COUNTRY OF EVERY RACE, OF EVERY AGE, OF EVERY GENDER, PERFECT STRANGERS TO EACH OTHER, MARCHED SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, ARM IN ARM, FIGHTING FOR US TO FINALLY ACHIEVE THAT IDEAL OF EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW. AND I WAS A PART OF THOSE PEACEFUL PROTESTS. AND I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT FIRST OF ALL, WE ARE NEVER GOING TO CONDONE VIOLENCE, BUT WE ALWAYS MUST FIGHT FOR THE VALUATION THAT WE HOLD DEAR, INCLUDING THE FIGHT TO ACHIEVE OUR IDEAL. AND THAT'S WHY JOE BIDEN AND I HAVE SAID ON THIS SUBJECT, LOOK, AND I'M A FORMER CAREER PROSECUTOR. I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. BAD COPS ARE BAD FOR GOOD COPS. WE NEED REFORM OF OUR POLICING IN AMERICA AND OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, WHICH IS J JOE AND I WILL IMMEDIATELY BAN CHOKEHOLDS AND YOD AT THIS TIME HOLDS. GEORGE FLOYD WOULD BE ALIVE IF DWE THAT. WE WILLE REQUIRE A NATIONAL REGISTRY FOR POLICE OFFICERS WHO BREAK THE LAW. WE WILL HAVE CRYSTAL JUSTICE REFORM, GET RID OF PRIVATE PRISONS AND CASH BAIL AND -- >> THANK YOU. >> AND WE WILL DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA -- >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. >> AND EX PUN NG THE RECORD OF THOSE CONVICTED OF MARIJUANA -- >> THANK YOU. >> ON A TRAGIC, TRAGIC ISSUE -- >> SENATOR HARRIS -- >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE, SAME QUESTION TO YOU. IN THE CASE OF BREONNA TAYLOR, WAS JUSTICE DONE? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES UNSBRUPTED. >> WELL, OUR HEART BREAKS FOR THE LOSS OF ANY INNOCENT AMERICAN LIFE AND THE FAMILY OF BREONNA TAYLOR HAS OUR SYMPATHIES. I TRUST OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. A GRAND JURY THAT REVIEWS THE EVIDENCE. IT IS RASHLG THAT AS A FORUM PROSECUTOR YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT AN EMPANELED GRAND JURY LOOKING AT ALL THE EVIDENCE GOT IT WRONG. BUT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO YOUR OPINION, SENATOR. I THINK WHAT -- AND WITH REGARD TO GEORGE FLOYD, THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR WHAT HAPPENED TO GEORGE FLOYD. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED. BUT THERE'S ALSO NO EXCUSE FOR THE RIOTING AND LOOTING THAT FOLLOWED. I MEAN IT REALLY IS ASTONISHING. FLOYD WESTBROOK IS WITH US HERE IN SALT LAKE CITY. A FEW WEEKS AGO I STOOD AT WHAT USED YOU TO BE HER SALON. WAS BURNED TO THE GROUND BY RIOTERS AND LOOTERS, AND FLOYD IS STILL TRYING TO PUT HER LIFE BACK TOGETHER. I MUST TELL YOU, THIS PRESUMPTION THAT YOU HEAR CONSISTENTLY FROM JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS THAT AMERICA'S SYSTEMICALLY RACIST. AS JOE BIDEN SAID HE BELIEVES THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS AN IMPLICIT BIAS AGAINST MINORITIES. IT'S A GREAT INSULT TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW WHO PUTS ON THE UNIFORM OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EVERY DAY, THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I STWAND YOU. IT IS REMARKABLE THAT WHEN SENATOR TIM SCOTT TRIED TO PASS A POLICE REFORM BILL GOT TOGETHER A GROUP OF REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS, SENATOR HARRIS, YOU GOT UP AND WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM. AND THEN YOU FILIBUSTERED SENATOR TIM SCOTT'S BILL ON THE SENATE FLOOR THAT WOULD HAVE PROVIDED NEW ACCOUNTABILITY, NEW RESOURCES BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SUPPORTING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SUPPORTING OUR AFRICAN-AMERICAN NEIGHBORS -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> WE'LL ALWAYS STAND WITH -- >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THE LIVES OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE YOUR TIME IS UP. >> FIGHT FOR SCHOOL CHOICE FOR ALL OF AMERICANS -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> I'D LIKE TO RESPOND. >> SENATOR HARRIS. >> I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND BE LECTURED BY VICE PRESIDENT PENCE ON THE LAWS. I AM THE ONLY ONE ON STAGE WHO HAS PERSONALLY PROSECUTED EVERYTH EVERYTHING. I AM THE ONLY ONE ON THIS STAGE WHO PROSECUTED FOR TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR VETERANS. AND THE REALITY OF THIS IS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ELECTION IN 27 DAYS WHERE LAST WEEK, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TOOK A DEBATE TAKE? FRONT OF 70 MILLION AMERICANS AND REFUSED TO CONDEMN WHITE SCREAM CYSTS. >> NOT TRUE. >> AND IT WASN'T LIKE HE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE. HE DIDN'T DO IT. AND THEN HE DOUBLED DOWN. AND THEN HE SAID WHEN PRESSED, STAND BACK. STAND BY. AND THIS IS A PART OF A PATTERN OF DONALD TRUMP'S. HE CALLED MEXICANS RAPISE ISTS CRIMINALS. HE INSTITUTE ADD MUSLIM BAN. ON THE ISSUE OF CHARLOTTESVILLE WHERE PEOPLE WERE PEACEFULLY PROTESTING THE NEED FOR RACIAL JUSTICE WHERE A YOUNG WOMAN WAS KILLED AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THERE WERE NEO-NAZIS CARRYING TEKE TORCHES SHOUTING RACIAL EPITHETS, ANTI-SEMITIC SLURS, AND DONALD TRUMP WHEN ASKED ABOUT IT SAID THERE WERE FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES. THIS IS WHO AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. >> SUSAN, SUSAN JUNIOR. >> IN AMERICA WE SERVE BETTER. >> SENATOR HARRIS. >> AND RECOGNIZES THE BEAUTY AND OUR DIVERSITY AND THE FACT THAT -- >> SENATOR HARRIS THANK YOU. >> MORE IN COMMON THAN WHAT SEPARATES US. >> VICE PRESIDENT PENCE LET ME GIVE AH MINUTE TO RESPOND. >> I APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH. UP THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES PEOPLE DISLIKE THE MEDIA SO MUCH IN THIS COUNTRY, SUSAN, IS THAT YOU SELECTIVELY EDIT JUST LIKE SENATOR HARRIS DID. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND I AND OTHERS ON OUR SIDE OF THE AISLE. AFTER THE PRESIDENT MADE COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE DEBATE OVER MONUMENTS, HE CONDEMNED THE KKK, NEO-NAZIS AND WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND HAS DONE SO REPEATEDLY. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS JEWISH GRANDCHILDREN. HIS DAUGHTER AND SOON IN LAW ARE JEWISH. THIS PRESIDENT RESPECTS AND CHERISHES ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. TALK ABOUT HAVING PERSONALLY PROSECUTED. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP YOUR RECORD, SENATOR. >> THANK YOU. >> I NEED TO MAKE THIS POINT. WHEN YOU WERE DA IN SAN FRANCISCO, WHEN YOU LEFT OFFICE, AFRICAN-AMERICANS WERE 19 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE PROSECUTED FOR MINOR DRUG OFFENSES THAN WHITES AND HISPANICS. >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT. >> INCREASED THE DISPROPORTIONATE INCARCERATION -- >> THANK YOU. >> IN CALIFORNIA. YOU DID NOTHING ON CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM IN CALIFORNIA -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT. >> I MEAN, THE REALITY IS YOUR RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> WE'VE FOUGHT FOR -- >> THANK YOU VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> OPPORTUNITIES FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS ALL ALONG. >> THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, THERE IS NO MORE IMPORTANT ISSUE THAN THE FINAL ISSUE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT AND THAT IS THE ISSUE TO HAVE ELECTION. >> HE ATTACKED MY RECORD. I WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND. >> GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. >> I APPRECIATE THAT. FIRST OF ALL, HAVING SERVED AS THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE WORK THAT I DID IS A MODEL OF WHAT OUR NATION NEEDS TO DO, AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO UNDERA JOE BIDEN PRESIDENT PRESIDENCY. IT WILL BE ABOUT INSTITUTING A BAN ON CHOKE HOLDS AND -- >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. >> I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH -- >> THESE ARE POINTS YOU MADE EARLIER AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ELECTION ITSELF. >> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CONNECTION BETWEEN WHAT JOE AND I WILL DO AND MY RECORD, WHICH INCLUDES, I WAS THE FIRST STATEWIDE OFFICER TO INSTITUTE A REQUIREMENT THAT MY AGENTS WOULD WEAR BODY CAMERAS AND KEEP THEM ON FULL TIME. WE WERE THE FIRST TO INITIATE A REQUIREMENT THAT FWLLD A TRAINING FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ON IMPLICIT BIAS BECAUSE YES, JOE BIDEN AND I RECOGNIZE THAT IMPLICIT BIAS DOES EXIST, MR. VICE PRESIDENT, CONTRARY TO WHAT YOU MAY BELIEVE. WE INSTITUTED REFORMS THAT WERE ABOUT INVESTING IN RE-ENTRY. THIS IS THE WORK THAT WE HAVE DONE AND THE WORK WE WILL DO GOING FORWARD. AGAIN, I WILL NOT BE LECTURED BY THE PRESIDENT ON OUR RECORD OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND KEEPING OUR COMMUNITIES SAFE AND A COMMITMENT TO REFORMING THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM OF AMERICA. >> THANK YOU SENATOR HARRIS. I WOULD LIKE TO -- I'D LIKE YOU TO RESPOND FIRST TO THE QUESTION ON THE FINAL TOPIC, THE ELECTION YICHLTS PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SEVERAL TIMES REFUSED TO COMMIT HIMSELF TO A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER AFTER THE ELECTION. IF YOUR TICKET WINS AND PRESIDENT TRUMP REFUSES TO ACCEPT A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER, WHAT STEPS WOULD YOU AND HAVEN'T BIDEN THEN TAKE? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN NEXT? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> SO I'LL TELL YOU. JOE AND I ARE PARTICULARLY PROUD OF THE COALITION THAT WE'VE BUILT AROUND OUR CAMPAIGN. WE PROBABLY HAVE ONE OF THE BRAISD COALITIONS YOU'VE SEEN IN A PRESIDENTIAL RACHLTS YOU HAVE THE SUPPORT OF DEMOCRATS BUT ALSO INDEPENDENTS AND REPUBLICANS. IN FACT, SEVEN MEMBERS OF PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH'S CABINET ARE SUPPORTING OUR TICKET. WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF COLIN POWELL, CINDY McCAIN, JOHN KASICH, OVER 500 GENERALS, RETIRED GENERALS AND EXPERTS AND ADVISORS ARE SUPPORTING OUR CAMPAIGN AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE DOING THAT BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT JOE BIDEN HAS A DEEP DEEP-SEATED COMMITMENT TO FIGHT FOR OUR DEMOCRACY AND TO FIGHT FOR THE INTEGRITY OF OUR DEMOCRACY AND TO BRING INTEGRITY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE. AND SO WE BELIEVE IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. WE BELIEVE OUR DEMOCRACY AND HERE'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY TO EVERYBODY. VOTE. PLEASE VOTE. VOTE EARLY. COME UP WITH A PLAN TO VOTE. GO TO IWILLVOTE.COM. GO TO JOE BIDEN.COM. WE HAVE IT WITHIN OUR POWER IN THESE NEXT 27 DAYS TO MAKE THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT WILL BE THE COURSE OF OUR COUNTRY FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. AND IT IS WITHIN OUR POWER AND IF WE USE OUR VOTE AND WE USE OUR VOICE, WE WILL WIN AND WE WILL NOT LET ANYONE SUBVERT OUR DEMOCRACY WITH WHAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN DOING AS HE DID ON THE DEBATE STAGE LAST WEEK WHEN AGAIN IN FRONT OF 70 MILLION PEOPLE HE OPENLY ATTEMPTED TO SUPPRESS THE VOTE. JOE BIDEN ON THE OTHER HAND ON THAT SAME DEBATE STAGE BECAUSE CLEARLY DONALD TRUMP DOESN'T THINK HE CAN RUN ON A RECORD BECAUSE IT'S A FAILED RECORD. JOE BIDEN SAYS HEY, JUST PLEASE VOTE I'LL REPEAT WHAT JOE SAID. PLEASE VOTE. >> THANK YOU SENATOR. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SEVERAL TIMES REFUSED TO COMMIT HIMSELF TO A PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER. IF VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WINS, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ROLE AND RESPONSIBILITY AS VICE PRESIDENT? WHAT WOULD YOU PERSONALLY DO? YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. >> WELL, SUSAN, FIRST AND FOREMOST, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION, BECAUSE WE LET JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS RATTLE OFF A LONG LITANY OF AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN A PART OF FOR 47 YEARS. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS WATCHED THE MOVEMENT OF AMERICANS FROM EVERY WALK OF LIFE AND I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT THE SAME AMERICANS THAT DELIVERED THAT HISTORIC VICTORY IN 2016, THEY SEE THIS PRESIDENT'S RECORD WHERE WE REBUILD OUR MILITARY, WE'VE REVIVED OUR ECONOMY THROUGH TAX CUTS AND ROLLING BACK REGULATION, FIGHTING FOR FAIR TRADE, UNLEASHING AMERICAN ENERGY. WE PINTED DROIFTS OUR COURTS AT EVERY LEVEL AND WE STOOD WITH THE MEN AND WOMEN OF LAW ENFORCEMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY I THINK THAT MOVEMENT OF AMERICANS HAS ONLY GROWN STRONGER IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ACCEPTING THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION, I MUST TELL YOU, SENATOR, YOUR PARTY SPENT THE LAST THREE AND A HALF YEARS TRYING TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE LAST EL ELECTION. WHEN JOE BIDEN WAS VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, THE FBI ACTUALLY SPIED ON PRESIDENT TRUMP AND MY CAMPAIGN. THERE WERE DOCUMENTS RELEASED THIS WEEK THAT THE CIA ACTUALLY MADE A REFERRAL TO THE FBI DOCUMENTING THAT THOSE ALLEGATIONS WERE COMING FROM THE HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND OF COURSE WE'VE ALL SEEN THE AVALANCHE, WHAT YOU PUT THE COUNTRY THROUGH FOR THE BETTER PART OF THREE YEARS UNTIL IT WAS POUNDS THAT THERE WAS NO OBSTRUCTION, NO COLLUSION, CASE CLOSED. AND THEN SENATOR HARRIS, YOU AND YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE CONGRESS TRIED TO IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OVER A PHONE CALL. NOW HILLARY CLINTON HAS ACTUALLY SAID THAT ZBLOEBLGD HER WORDS UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD HE CONCEDE THE ELECTION. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION. PRESIDENT TRUMP RAGED FIGHTING EVERY DAY IN COURTHOUSES TO PREVENT JOE BIDEN AND CKAMALA HARRIS FROM CHANGING THE RULES AND CREATING A MASSIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR VOTER FRAUD. WE HAVE A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION. WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DMFD IT AND I BELIEVE ALL MY HEART PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO BE ELECTED FOR FOUR MORE YEARS. >> FOR THE FINAL QUESTION OF THE DEEKT, I'D LIKE TO READ A QUESTION THAT SOMEONE ELSE WROTE. THE UTAH DEBATE COMMISSION ASKED STUDENTS IN THE SITE WRITE ESSAYS ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU AND I WANT TO CLOSE TONIGHT'S DEBATE WITH A QUESTION POSED BY REKLIN BROWN FROM SPRINGFIELD, UTAH. HERE'S WHAT SHE WROTE: "WHEN I TORNADO WAT WATCH THE NEWS, ALL I SEE IS CITIZEN FIGHTING AGAINST CITIZEN. WHEN I WATCH THE NEWS ALL I SEE ARE TWO CANDIDATES FROM OPPOSING PARTIES TRYING TO TEAR EACH OTHER DOWN. IF OUR LEADERS CAN'T GET ALONG, HOW ARE THE CITIZENS SUPPOSED TO GET ALONG? SHE ADDED YOUR EXAMPLES COULD MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE TO BRING US TOGETHER, END QUOTE. SO TO EACH OF YOU IN-TURN, I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE ONE MINUTE AND RESPOND TO HER. VICE PRESIDENT PENCE. >> THAT'S A WONDERFUL QUESTION. AND LET ME JUST COMMEND YOU FOR TAKING AN INTEREST IN PUBLIC LIFE. I STARTED FOLLOWING THE NEWS WHEN I WAS VERY YOUNG AND IN AMERICA, WE BELIEVE IN A FREE AND OPEN EXCHANGE OF DEBATE AND WE CELEBRATE THAT. IT'S HOW WE'VE CREATED LITERALLY THE FREESE AND MOST PROSPEROUS NATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT -- DON'T ASSUME,000 WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON YOUR LOCAL NEWS NETWORKS IS SYNONYMOUS WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN JUSTICE RUTH BADER GINSBURG, THE LATE JUSTICE WHO WE JUST LOST FROM THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE LATE JUSTICE ANTONIN SCALIA, THEY WERE ON POLAR OPPOSITES ON THE SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES, ONE VERY LIBERAL, ONE VERY CONSERVATIVE. WHAT'S BEEN LEARNED SINCE HER PASSION IS THAT THE TWO OF THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES WERE THE CLOSEST OF FRIENDS. HERE IN AMERICA, WE CAN DEBATE VIGOROUSLY AS WE HAVE ON THE STAGE TOECHBLTS BUT WHEN THE DEBATE IS OVER, WE COME TOGETHER AS AMERICANS. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE DO IN BIG CITIES AND SMALL TOWNS ALL ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU. I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GOING TO WORK EVERY DAY TO HAVE GOVERNMENT AS GOOD AS OUR PEOPLE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE EACH AND EVERY DAY LOVE A GOOD DEBATE. WE LOVE A GOOD ARGUMENT BUT WE ALWAYS COME TOGETHER AND ARE ALWAYS THERE FOR ONE ANOTHER. >> THANK YOU. >> IN TIMES OF NEED. WE'VE ESPECIALLY LEARNED THAT -- >> THANK YOU. >> THROUGH THE DITS OF THIS YEAR. >> SENATOR HARRIS, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO BREKLIN? >> FIRST OF ALL, I LOVE HEARING FROM OUR YOUNG LEADERS. WHEN I HEAR HER WORDS, WHEN I HEAR YOUR WORDS, BREKLIN, I KNOW OUR FUTURE IS BRIGHT BECAUSE IT IS THAT PER SUSPECTSIVE ON WHO WE ARE AND WHO WE SHOULD BE THAT IS A SIGN OF LEADERSHIP AND IS SOMETHING WE ALL SHOULD ASPIRE TO BE. THAT BRINGS ME TO JOE. JOE BIDEN, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT JOE DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT IS AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, IT SO TROUBLED HIM AND UPSET LIKE IT DID ALL OF US THAT THERE WAS THAT KIND OF HATES AND DIVISION, WHAT PROPELLED JOE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT WAS TO SEE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FOUR YEARS WHAT BREKLIN HAS DESCRIBED. WORKING IN A BIPARTISAN WAY AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO AS PRESIDENT. JOE BIDEN HAS A HISTORY OF LIFTING PEOPLE UP AND FIGHTING FOR THEIR DIGNITY. YOU HAVE TO KNOW JOE'S STORY TO KNOW THAT JOE HAS KNOWN PAIN. HE HAS KNOWN SUFFERING ANGDS HE HAS KNOWN LOVE. COVID-19. THE SECOND PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE IS NEXT WEEK ON OCTOBER 15th A TOWN HALL STYLE DEBATE IN MIAMI. WE HOPE YOU'LL JOIN US THEN. GOOD EVENING. [ APPLAUSE ]
