after 2 stunningly subpar meetings with Mexico and Guatemala will discuss it. >> Number one, it's very dangers, check because a lot of which is seen as a tax on be quite frankly are attacks on science so if you are trying to get at me you really attacking not only doctor Anthony Fauci you're attacking science if you believe this starting to crack. >> The almighty Fauci makes it clear criticize me you're criticizing science really one of the doctors, scientists criticize you do they not like science their own profession with more on this taking doctor Anthony Fauci side is patchy apologies. Jesse He is a co-host of the 5 hostages waters world on Saturdays at 8 and author of the upcoming book comes out in July 6th. How I saved the world, so Jesse yes, I did not know when he said this I wasn't issued yesterday did you guys tackle this on the 5 we're going to tackle it tonight on the FOX came out after it did. So yeah, I mean your thoughts your is outrage and I was over in a guy I've seen in my life. >> So when you attack a liberal this is what they do. They say oh you're attacking women, you're attacking me because I'm black you're you're you're you're attacking the media, so they try to then assume this grand identity you're attacking science. No we're not even attacking science were were criticizing you doctor Fauci and he should be able to take the Heat. >> I don't know if Chuck Todd followed up and said well doctor fact, the critics would say that you did have it wrong and mask you did have it wrong on how much danger this pandemic would be you did have it wrong to marginalize the Wuhan lab leak. He did have it wrong saying services or a place you can catch the virus you did have it wrong when it said you can catch it outside so I don't know did he I it's more than likely if he had followed up like that. >> It would be in the news but I give him the benefit of the doubt. He is so defensive. He's also referring to himself in the 3rd person listened to the whole by them not going to a boy with the we got the gist of it. He actually first himself if you insult doctor Fauci excuse me are you doctor Fauci well as someone that likes to refer to himself in the 3rd person I'm not going that Brian but you're right he was your honor your World is low unified. That's right wrong on masks. He's criticize DeSantis was the hero Cuomo was the villain. He got it all wrong. So we're not really criticizing science we're just saying listen. You got it wrong. What a half dozen times. Let's let's let's get it together and get it right so it doesn't happen again since we are not scientists we could have a soul who you know in that doctor Peter mccullough is his cardiologist internist and epidemiologist and he it Laura last night. >> So your witness cut 13. >> Well or as a practicing doctor and as a manager of 2 major journals. I can tell you you know we hear from lawyers that no person is above the law and in medicine no doctor is above peer review and what Americans really deserve to see over the last year is a team of doctors prefer bleed doctors who actually knew how to treat patients with COVID-19 knew how to rapidly interpret the literature and come up with a cracked differences, you know the science changed over time, and every time there was a definitive statement within a few days or a few weeks. There are new data coming out as particularly with respect to treatment. >> We notice civilians. I think by the time though his book comes out November, 13 oh it's all about July 6th with as by the time his book comes out November, 3rd I think he's going to be totally disgraced. I did 2 before unlike Cuomo he got it right after he's going to get it before I did so and that advance whatever he got I hope it wasn't more than what I got for how I save the world because that's a disgraced is in a very similar book. >> And yet a woman's longer -300 pages he was only 18 his his 80 Arab doctor should monitor but you're right so it wasn't just. He was following the science and the science developed he was getting e-mails from scientific leadership saying it looks like the sequence never mutated it looks like this was a manipulator and then he got on a conference call with the scientists. They did a one 80 and put out a paper and says no no no it came from an animal, so he was actually it was a scientific conspiracy to then block scientific research into the truth. >> All right I got to breed to something else drive me not to have not been able to focus on and that is I do Joe Pa Joe Biden's foreign policy instincts and track record there's 2 things that worry about this climate change agenda. This destroying our energy our fossil fuel which has been literally the engine of our economy. This high dry. The fracking that has allowed us to the ship and use natural gas and of course the oiled the drilling that's been taking place he's getting rid of all that page 6 of the Wall Street Journal today, not only is China not doing that they say they're more can moving away from whatever they agreed to in the Paris climate change they said their focus is going to be on reviving their economy. That's what our focus should be this is president Biden same too an audience in England. What he's Joint Chiefs of Staff are telling him cut 3. >> I >> fire a mall. I would say listen is that true we do as well OK Rogan I don't believe have a uniform, I don't believe that doing toy that I think he made it up the better and I think he made it up they'll be actually the good side of the story. And I thought the biggest threat was white supremacy. Right you want various threat i-four last year was Russia right and then it was China so like every other week, it's a different threat so. He instead of after the first had this is the message. Vladimir putin sending us and he's representing us. >> After the first hack. They were so scared about of retribution they hit us again from the same country this time first they got or oil and gas. Then they eat right, then they said you know human rights is going to come up navalny's health matters to us no they said his organization is now illegal. There's no sign is ever going to get out deals arrested 2 more dissidents in the meantime these are messages sent to Joe Biden to make him uncomfortable. This is a quote from the far MR. on the doorstep of their meeting in Vienna in a few days, this is a disaster Joe Biden has to defend big beef and the United States big beef and big oil, it's barbecue season, Brian we need to be able to barbecue this beef. >> I would if I were the president right before I sat down with Vladimir putin I have the Defense Department launched a cyber attack on raw snapped the big oil company right there so he finds out during the meeting. The biggest oil company in Russia just got hacked and then afterwards, I'd say we're going to now re up on all the military package to Ukraine big satellite imagery shipment I I'd lock in with all the tactical armaments because they have snipers in the East that are crushing the Ukrainians and that's what I do I'd sandwich putin with those 2 deals and I would force him to say next attack from the Russian soil on America. I'm holding the Kremlin personally responsible I am I overstating what I say kamala Harris as disasters today trip I think that's about right. >> the is what were your expectations. The right, I mean did you really think she was going down there to solve problems, she's buying time just want to go to the border says what photographs of her with border agents at a wall praising Border Patrol agent she wants to run for president one day that will just be an ad against her by someone say they can say you know, she's tough an immigrant she is mean she's nasty she's pro Border. Patrol, just what those images out there so she's doing she's tap dancing and avoiding the problem all right 180,000. You know that number is that that's who have crossed into 173 the month before. The problem is though the the the problem getting worse in real time as I headed you handle that when you first kicked off and all those kids were coming across Well, it's actually still happening. >> What do we open up to with this week on Monday a 5 year-old walking around by herself in front of the wall. >> And then you see a border agent grabbed one of these images would have been the image we never forgot about Trump ingrained in our minds and our psyche for ever. So she's got an unfolding problem an agency Henrik y our today called on Biden and Harris to let the local people led the with the local residents understand that you care and come down to the border. Coy I don't need to tell you a Democrat I think that I think they could have a hard time out running this problem. Well, you know it gets really hot in the summer so this migration patterns naturally going to die down so they'll just Pat themselves on the back and claim that they fixed it, but it's just going to be just as bad next year because they're not changing any of the policies I think they're going to get rocked in the midterms immigration is a hot-button issue you read this. >> And I think it's a harbinger of things to come people are upset about it, especially people in Texas they're trying to turn Texas blue Brian Cup that's what they're trying to do right, but it's going the other way right now and here's the other thing that but politically right now it's going the other way but if you have hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants pouring into Texas. It's a lot of women, you know they have babies they're going to if they get in the state if they get asylum they're going to vote Democrat first year generation immigrants always vote Democrat that's the game. They're going to suffer early. Short term consequences, but