>> ANDERSON, BACK TO YOU. VAN, WHAT DID YOU THINK OF TIM SCOTT? >> HE'S SORT OF THE BIDEN OF HIS PARTY AND THAT HE COMES ACROSS WARM AND AUTHENTIC AND HE TELLS A STORY AND THAT KIND OF IS IT TRUE. THE PROBLEM IS NOT THE MESSENGER. THE MESSAGE IS NONSENSE. HE ACTS LIKE ALL THE DIVISIONS IN THE COUNTRY IS COMING FROM ONE SIDE. IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE. HE LOST A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS BY THE TENS OF MILLIONS WHEN YOU SAY MEASURING IS NOT A RACIST NATION. YOU CAN SAY WE ARE GETTING BETTER BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND STATISTICS, IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS COUNTRY IS STILL STRUGGLING WITH RACISM. WE STILL HAVE RACISM SHOWING UP IN EVERY INSTITUTION. I THOUGHT HE DID HIMSELF A DISSERVICE BY JUMPING THAT SHARK UNNECESSARILY. WITH THAT SAID, THERE IS A REASON THEY PUT HIM UP. HE'S THE BEST THEY GOT. HE CAN GIVE THAT MESSAGE, HE CAN TALK ABOUT AND POLISH UP ALL THE REPUBLICAN NONSENSE WITHOUT THE SHARP EDGES BETTER THAN THE REST OF THEM. >> WHAT'S AMAZING IS HOW DIFFERENT HE SOUNDS FROM ALL THE OTHER REPUBLICANS. AGAIN, IT IS ALMOST A TALE THAT THE REST OF THE PARTY IS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE THAT YOU GOT TO PUT HIM UP THERE. >> HE DID TOUCH A LOT OF THOSE BIG TOUCH STONE FOR CONSERVATIVES. I THOUGHT HE PROBABLY SCORED SOME POINTS FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE SCHOOL ISSUES. THERE ARE A LOT OF PARENTS WERE FRUSTRATED THAT SCHOOLS DID NOT OPEN QUICKLY. HE DID SAY AT THE END, ORIGINAL SIN IS NOT THE END OF OUR STORY. HE'S ACKNOWLEDGING HISTORY EVEN AS HE'S MAKING THIS PROCLAMATION THAT RACISM IS NOT AMERICA. THIS IS PART OF OUR STORY AND WHEN PEOPLE ARE SAYING WE NEED TO CONFRONT IT AND WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT. HE CONFLICTED WITH -- >> WHAT STRUCK ME WAS THIS WAS NOT A MESSAGE THAT WAS A DONALD TRUMP MESSAGE AT ALL. HE WAS NOT SPEAKING TO THE BASE OF THE PARTY EXCEPT ONE AREA WHERE HE WAS REFUSING TO GIVE JOE BIDEN ANY CREDIT ON COVID-19. HE SAID THE TIDE HAD ALREADY TURNED ON COVID-19 WHEN BIDEN BECAME PRESIDENT AND OF COURSE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT OPERATION WARP SPEED HAPPENS UNDER JOE BIDEN BUT GETTING VACCINES INTO ARMS WAS A BIDEN OPERATION. >> AS YOU SEE HIS EVOLUTION AS POLITICIAN, DID IT SURPRISE YOU OF HIS ABILITY BEING A BIG TARGET? >> THERE WAS A THREE-LINE HERE. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE THAT JOE BIDEN GAVE IN 1983, HE TALKED ABOUT TWO CORNER STONES AMERICAN RIGHTS, FAIRNESS AND OPPORTUNITY. WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT IN THE JOE BIDEN'S SPEECH WAS A LOT OF TALK OF FAIRNESS AND SOME TALK OF OPPORTUNITY. THERE IS A LOT OF TALK OF OPPORTUNITY AND NOT A LOT OF TALK OF FAIRNESS. IN SOME WAYS IT MISSES SOMETHING THAT IT IS CHANGING IN THE AMERICAN ELECTRIC PARTICULARLY AMONG THE YOUNG PEOPLE. >> YOU WENT BACK AND LISTEN TO A BIDEN RESPOND TO A SPEECH IN 1983. >> GOOD SATURDAY NIGHT. >> ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT HAVING A TIM SCOTT IN THE MIX IS THAT HE'S REACHING OUT AND HE'S WORKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON THE POLICING STUFF. IT DOES TAKE SOME COURAGE. I WANT TO GIVE HIM HIS CREDIT. HE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION SOON. HE CAN GET PRIMARY IF HE GOES TOO FAR IN A LIBERAL ELECTION. HE DOES HAVE THE INTEGRITY TO SAY THAT I KNOW POLICING IS A PROBLEM, I DEALT WITH IT AND I WANT TO WORK ON IT. DEMOCRATS SHOULD APPLAUD THAT. I JUST THINK THAT SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS HE'S TRYING TO POLISH UP IS CLEAR REPUBLICANS ARE ATTACKING VOTING RIGHTS. THEY'RE NOT PASSING A BUNCH OF BILLS TO TRY TO MAKE VOTING EASIER. HIS GENIUS IS WORTHY OF A BETTER CAUSE AND TRYING TO DEFEND SOME OF THE STUFF HE'S DOING. >> PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKED ABOUT BORDERS AND IMMIGRATIONS AND DID NOT TALK ABOUT A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN CRITICIZING HIM TONIGHT FOR NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BORDER CRISIS AND SO MANY PEOPLE COMING ACHRIS ACROSS THE PAST FEW MONTHS. FES HIM. HE HOPES THE DISCUSSION WOULD SIGNIFY -- HE DID TALK ABOUT ASSIGNING THE VICE PRESIDENT TO TRY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE LEADING TO THE CRISIS. HE DIDN'T COMPLETELY -- HE DIDN'T OFFER A SOLUTION PARTICULARLY TONIGHT BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST GETTING BACK TO HIS SPEECH. I REALLY, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAY I REGRET THAT HE HAD TO TOUCH ALL THOSE BASES. IF IT HAD JUST BEEN ABOUT ECONOMIC ISSUES HE'S PUSHING, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE POWERFUL, NOT THAT THOSE ISSUES, THE OTHER ISSUES ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE BUT THE ESSENCE OF HIS SPEECH WAS ECONOMIC SPEECH. IT WAS STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH ATTACHED TO AN ECONOMIC SPEECH. >> THESE THINGS TEND TO BE LAUNDRY LIST AND FROM BEING IN THE WHITE HOUSE KINDS OF GETTING PASSED AROUND. >> IT IS AWFUL. >> THE BEGINNING I THINK AND THE END WAS WHAT BIDEN WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHICH IS OUR DEMOCRACY IS AT STAKE. THE ISSUE I HAVE WITH SCOTT AND REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW IS YES, BIDEN IS PROPOSING ALL THESE SPENDING AND FIGURING OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR IT. REPUBLICANS HAVE NO CREDIBILITY PAYING FOR IF ONLY THEY'D PAY FOR THINGS IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS. THEY SAY BIGGEST TAX INCREASE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA. WELL, THEY HAD ONE. AND IT COST THE GOVERNMENT WHAT,
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