THIS IS "THE FIVE." ♪ ♪ >> LEAK THAT FOUR BLOCKS IN SEATTLE YOU JUST SAW PICTURES OF THAT ARE MORE LIKE A BLOCK PARTY ATMOSPHERE. >> HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT LOOKS LIKE THIS? >> I DON'T KNOW. WE COULD HAVE A SUMMER OF LOVE. >> Dana: RUNNING INTO A REALITY CHECK AFTER A VIOLENT WEEKEND IN SEATTLE THAT LEFT FIVE PEOPLE DEAD. YOU JUST SAW SEATTLE'S MAYOR, SHE WAS PRAISING LAWLESSNESS IN THE CHOP ZONE. THE FAST-FORWARD TO TODAY, NOW SHE'S DEMANDING THE CITY HIRE MORE COPS AFTER SLASHING POLICE BUDGET AND SHOOTINGS 40%. >> SEATTLE SAW ONE OF THE WORST LATE NIGHT, EARLY MORNING VIOLENCE IN RECENT MEMORY. MOTHERS LEFT THEIR CHILDREN, FAMILIES LOST THEIR FATHERS, PEOPLE LOST THEIR FRIENDS. AS A CITY, WE CANNOT CONTINUE ON THIS CURRENT TRAJECTORY OF LOSING POLICE OFFICERS LIKELY HAVE THIS YEAR INTO NEXT YEARS. WHEN CITY LEADERS TALKING ABOUT CUTTING A DEPARTMENT BY 50%, YOU WILL LOSE EMPLOYEES. FAMILIES NEED SECURITY. WE CANNOT JUST CUT. WE NEED A PLAN. >> Dana: SEATTLE'S MAYOR JENNY DURKAN IS NOT ALONE. OTHER CITIES ARE REGRETTING DEFUNDING THE POLICE AS CRIME RISES, AND MAYORAL CANDIDATE ERIC ADAMS IS CALLING OUT CONGRESSWOMAN ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ AND OTHER PROGRESSIVES WHO HAVE LED THE LAND CUTTING POLICE BUDGET. >> I'M RUNNING AGAINST A MOVEMENT. ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, SOCIALISTS ARE MOBILIZING. THEY REALIZE THAT IF I'M SUCCESSFUL WE ARE GOING TO START THE PROCESS OF REGAINING CONTROL OF OUR CITY. >> Dana: REMEMBER C.H.O.P.? NOW IT'S THE CENTER OF VIOLENCE. >> Greg: A CARNIVAL OF JOY. YEAH, SHE'S AN IDIOT. JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE. NOT EVEN GOING TO HAVE A CONDITION ON THAT, SHE DESERVES THE WRATH OF KHAN, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS. I KNOW GERALDO HAS STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT ERIC ADAMS. I WANT TO LOVE THIS GUY, I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT ERIC ADAMS ISRAEL, RIGHT? BECAUSE HE SANG ON THE RIGHT THINGS. HE IS SAYING IF THIS DOESN'T STOP THE WHOLE COUNTRY GOING DOWN. >> Geraldo: WHY DO YOU DOUBT IT? >> Greg: I'M GOING TO GET TO THAT. WE WERE SOLD JOE THE MODERATE. THAT HE IS BASICALLY LIKE TRUMP BUT WITHOUT THE TWEETS. AND HE'S GOING TO UNIFY THE COUNTRY. AND WHAT HAPPENS? HE IS JUST THE SQUAD IN AN OLD MAN SUIT. THEY JUMPED ON THE SHOULDERS AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE HEAD UP THERE. HE'S DOING THE OPPOSITE OF UNIFYING, HE IS SPLITTING THIS COUNTRY INTO GROUPS THAT ARE EITHER THIS OR THAT, SO I'M WORRIED THAT ONCE ERIC ADAMS BECOMES MAYOR OF NEW YORK HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE SAME PRESSURES FROM THE SAME ELITIST ACTIVIST CLASS THAT BIDEN HAS, AND WILL HE ROLL OVER OR WON'T HE? THAT IS SOMETHING I WORRY ABOUT. BUT IF HE DOESN'T, WE COULD SEE SOMETHING GREAT AND IT COULD SPREAD OTHER CITIES. >> Dana: WHAT DO YOU THINK, GERALDO? >> Geraldo: I THINK ERIC ADAMS HAS GREAT AMBITIONS BEYOND THE MAYORALTY IN THE GREATEST CITY ON EARTH. I BELIEVE HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT, BUT I TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD. I BELIEVE HE IS SINCERE, HE IS THE CAPTAIN OF THE POLICE FORCE. I KNEW HIM WHEN HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE 100 BLACK MEN IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. I TRUST HIM, THE CITY HAS GONE TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET, HE'S GOING TO RESCUE IT. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ANY GOVERNMENT CAN DO, WHATEVER THE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT, IS KEEP CITIZENS SAFE. ONCE PEOPLE START FREAKING OUT ABOUT DANGER TO THEM AND ESPECIALLY THEIR CHILDREN, THEY ACT. I THINK YOU ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW A REAL REJECTION, AND I BELIEVE THIS IS WHY THE DEMOCRATS DID SO POORLY IN THE MIDTERMS, AND IN THE CONGRESSIONAL RACES IN NOVEMBER 2020, AND I BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE THE PIVOTAL ISSUE IN THE MIDTERMS, AND EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET ON BOARD. THAT'S OKAY WITH ME, I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE SINCERE OR IF THEY REALLY MEAN IT, I DON'T CARE WHAT JENNY DURKAN SAID. I WAS IN THE SUMMER OF LOVE, I KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE. [LAUGHTER] THAT WAS NO SUMMER OF LOVE IN SEATTLE. >> Dana: JESSE, ACTIONS AND CONSEQUENCES. THESE CITIES ARE SEEING IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. >> Jesse: CRIMINALS WILL GET AWAY WITH WHATEVER WE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH, KIND OF LIKE MY DAUGHTERS. [LAUGHTER] NO OFFENSE, LADIES, BUT IT'S TRUE. WHEN THEY SAW IT OUT THERE COME THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SIGNAL, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT." SO THEY DEFUND THE POLICE IN SEATTLE, $46 MILLION, A WAVE OF RETIREMENTS, SHOOTINGS SPIKE, AND YOU KNOW WHO THE VICTIMS MOSTLY WEAR? BLACK AMERICANS. SO YOU HAVE A WHITE LIBERAL MAYOR TEAMING UP WITH A WHITE CITY COUNCIL UNDER THE BANNER OF ANTIRACISM, ENDS UP TRIGGERING A CRIME WAVE THAT DISPROPORTIONATELY AFFECT AFRICAN-AMERICANS. MALCOLM X SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. >> Greg: JESSE IS QUOTING MALCOLM X. >> Jesse: YOU NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD QUOTE MALCOLM X BUT HE WARNED AGAINST THE WHITE LIBERAL LIBERAL. THEY WILL PRETEND TO BE THE FRIEND OF BLACK AMERICANS, BUT THEY ONLY DO THAT TO USE THE BLACK AMERICANS AGAINST CONSERVATIVES. TO USE THEM AS PONDS, AND IT HURTS BLACK AMERICANS. AND THE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT IN SEATTLE, SHE'S ACTUALLY RUNNING FOR MAYOR. THIS IS WHAT SHE PROPOSED TO REDUCE THE GUN VIOLENCE. YOU READY? PROGRAMS, FROM HOSPITAL-BASED INTERVENTION STRATEGIES TO TRAUMA-HEALING PROGRAMS. DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THAT MEANS. AND NOBODY ELSE DOES. SO SEATTLE VOTED FOR THESE CLOWNS. AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU HAVE TO SAY, THESE ARE THE LEADERS THE SEATTLE PEOPLE CHOSE, AND NOW SEATTLE IS A SHOOTING GALLERY. ALL IT IS WAS RAIN AND COFFEE OUT THERE, NOW THEY SHOOT PEOPLE. WHAT IS THE POINT OF SEATTLE BUT HE CAN'T GET A CUP OF COFFEE SAFELY AND LISTEN TO GRUNGE AND WATCH "FRASIER?" IF YOU GO AND CHECK "DEMOCRAT," YOU GET CRIME. IT'S NOT LIKE THERE'S AN OPTION FOR A REPUBLICAN. NEXT TIME, VOTE FOR THE LESS CRAZY DEMOCRAT. [LAUGHTER] >> Dana: THAT THE STRATEGY, KATIE. >> Katie: I THINK THE CHOICE IS DEMOCRAT OR SOCIALIST. [LAUGHS] THOSE ARE THE CHOICES. YOU HEAR THEM TALK ABOUT THE SUMMER OF LOVE, SHORTLY AFTER SHE SAID THAT, 19-YEAR-OLD LORENZO ANDERSON WAS KILLED IN THE C.H.A.Z. WHEN THE POLICE WERE CALLED THEY WERE STOPPED AT THE BORDER WHERE THE AUTONOMOUS ZONE HAPPENED AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO HELP HIM GET MEDICAL AID AND HE DIED, AND HIS FAMILY SUED THE CITY. AND COMMON BEST WAS THE FIRST BLACK FEMALE POLICE CHIEF IN SEATTLE, WHO WASN'T JUST TAKE BECAUSE SHE WAS A POLITICAL PERSON, SHE WORKED IN THE DEPARTMENT FOR 30 YEARS AND HAD A TRACK RECORD OF WORKING ON THE STREET, SHE HAD THIS EXPERIENCE KNOWING HOW IT IS ON THE BEAT, SHE WAS A GREAT POLICE CHIEF WITH ALL THIS EXPERIENCE WHO UNDERSTOOD WHAT WAS NEEDED, THEY STARTED CUTTING THE POLICE BUDGET, THEY STARTED OUSTING HER BECAUSE SHE WANTED LAW AND ORDER, AND SHE DIDN'T INTERESTING EXIT INTERVIEW SAYING, LOOK, I FEEL LIKE THEY SET ME UP TO FAIL. AND THEY DID. THE IDEA THAT DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THIS MESS THEY MADE THAT WAS TOTALLY PREDICTABLE BECAUSE OF SOME LEFT-WING IDEOLOGY THAT THEY SAY IS BASED IN RACIAL JUSTICE, WHICH ACTUALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RACIAL JUSTICE AND IS ACTUALLY GETTING MINORITIES KILLED, THAT'S ONE THING. EVERYTHING NOW IS THE POLICE BEING UNAVAILABLE, BECAUSE THEY SKEWER THEM, WHICH MEANS MORE VICTIMS ON EVERY LEVEL OF CRIME. WHETHER IT'S CALLING 911 BECAUSE SOMEONE IS GETTING MUGGED OR THERE IS A HOME INVASION, THERE ARE SO MANY CITIZENS WHO ARE THEN LEFT WITH NO ABILITY -- HE SEE PEOPLE BUYING FIREARMS IN THE CITIES WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO SO. >> Dana: IF SOMEBODY COULD CALCULATE HOW MUCH IT HAS COST NOT JUST TO DEFUND THE POLICE, BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOSE THESE OFFICERS WITH SO MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU LOSE ALL THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, THEY WANT TO HIRE A NEW POLICE OFFICERS, BUT HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE FOR SOMEONE TO BE READY? >> Greg: AND YOU HAVE TO LOWER THE STANDARDS FOR NEW POLICE OFFICERS SO YOU MAY NOT GET THE ACTUAL QUALITY HAD BEFORE, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY THEM AS MUCH BECAUSE OF THE DEFUNDING. MY QUESTION IS WHERE IS ANTIFA AND BLM NOW? THEY'RE NOT IN THE NEWS ANYMORE. >> Greg: THAT'S WHY I'M PROUD OF JESSE FOR BRING UP THE VICTIMS. IT'S OVERWHELMINGLY A PROBLEM IN THE MINORITY COMMUNITY, LATINO AS WELL AS BLACK BUT OVERWHELMINGLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN. AND IT'S A GHETTO CIVIL WAR. WE HAVE HEARD OUR EYES. >> Katie: WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF. >> Geraldo: I MEAN WE-WE. [LAUGHTER] >> Jesse: GERALDO IS PROUD OF
