Vaccine injury, Adam

welcome to this talk and I'm delighted to welcome back Adam Roland Adam thank you for coming back oh hi John again it's uh it's my pleasure and not just on behalf of myself but on behalf of all the the people like myself who are struggling um it's a real privilege to be on here and we're really grateful that you give us a platform like this and you're prepared to listen to us because uh yeah it's been a long fight for the last three years to try and get anybody to listen to us yeah I think this is one of the fundamental problems Adam that people are just not listening to what individuals like yourself are saying you know if someone says they've got a pain then they've got a pain pain is defined by the reporting person and we simply have to believe our patience and this is the big thing that is not being done anything like as much as it should be but just give us a a me a lot of people are following you your progress or lack of progress or whatever we call it Adam and and it's it's it's no of you to share it and uh but for those that haven't met you before just give us a brief introduction about the uh the history of what happened yeah so obviously I was very fit and well before that for anybody who didn't know me had a great career fantastic job or it's in professional sport for many years um I used to exercise twice a day so a very quite a vigorous cardiovascular workout in the mornings I'd go about my job and lift weights in the afternoon and then I got the astroica vaccine the first one and I started to immediately experience side effects but I didn't attribute the side effects to the vaccine um because I've never had any why why should you the vaccine safe and effective why should you yeah I you know I had I had the immediate fevers and everything else what people got and I thought that's it and then I started with all these other crazy symptoms which you know I picked up the phone to the GP GP just went it sounds like stress panic attacks anxiety kind of stuff and you know it went down that road for about a month until it was clear that wasn't the case what were you experiencing initially Adam what was the first things you felt yeah the first things I felt were it was really bizarre I get like a neurological pain all down my left arm and my left leg and like restless legs like neurological stuff in my legs and my wife at the time was noticing I was flailing my arms and legs about trying to go to sleep and she'd be like what's up and I'd be doing it in my sleep and I'd be like I've got these horrendous pains I don't know what it is and then the next thing after that that started fairly immediately was I now know they like palpitations and ectopic heart beats things going on with my heart uh so I'd wake up in the middle of the night and I felt like I was dying it was really bizarre and it felt like my heart was stopping horrible though terrifying it was terrifying yeah and then it turned into insomnia where I couldn't sleep for like three and five nights and so I got on the phone to the GP and you know he said it was like oh it sounds like nocturnal panic attacks so I was like right okay s was this guy one trying to be a psychiatrist or something but the point is even a psychiatrist wouldn't do that because a psychiatrist is a doctor of psychiatric medicine right and he knows that above all you must eliminate medical biological causes of disease before you start calling someone a head case right soing you know I I didn't know any different because I never had any side effects to anything and I went along with it and then the the the disastrous mistake well I had the second vaccine a couple of months later and uh it became very obvious then because my heart immediately you know it let me know in uncertain terms ended up in hospital and you know from there I've just got sicker and sicker uh very very gradually but uh sicker and sicker yeah what what what caused you to go into hospital that first time Adam yeah so obviously I started to complain about my heart between the first and second vaccine and I was on a waiting list for a e CG but there was a huge waiting list uh so what I did was because of my position at the professional Club I was working at we actually had a club cardiologist so I just got you're a phys you're a professional physiotherapist professional I the club cardiologist and I said look I'm getting all these symtoms my doc said it's anxiety and he said well you know maybe probably might be he said but we'll we'll do an ECG and then basically he picked up on the ECG cuz it was a 24hour one you know you press the thing when you're having an epic episode and it turns out my heart was going into VT ventricular tacki cardio when I was having an episode um sent me those they sent me those tracings yeah I I recognized ventricular tacki cardio on those tracings because I used to work in Corry care and I have checked with a cardiologist and it is in fact ventricular Tachi cardia there's no question about that yeah I mean I do know that because I you know I paid privately to see a cardiologist um and to be fair to them um I had a couple of um like fainted episodes and the second time that happened after speaking to having had ECG proof of this I was told if it happened again to go straight to hospital I went straight to hospital I showed him the copy of the ECG and to be fair to him they put me on the acute coronary Care Unit like a high intensity unit and they did take it quite serious from there completely correct to do that yeah yeah uh but then that's where the story and my long journey started if you like John because it they they were completely Bamboozled essentially as to you know the cause of why my heart was was doing this and and whether I was indeed safe at the time um so that was where the journey started really and they they looked for you know I said this has all started immediately I said it happened after my first vaccine but it's got I've got chest pain now with it after the second uh and told them my symptoms were getting worse so they were looking for blood clots cuz my D di was raised uh they didn't find blood clots and because I was my resting heart rate at the time was in the 30s because I was very fit so they they were suspecting something called buard syndrome um initially they they said have a low heart rate yeah yeah they said it's unlikely to be the vaccine after they couldn't find clots um so yeah that's when my journey started and then essentially I started to develop more symptoms like a month or so later my vision was blurred face rashes tonius the pains I developed all these like neurological pains in my legs where instead of them going completely down the legs and being intermittent it was like somebody had amputated me below the knees and it was the same as what Brienne described on her interview with the other day um yeah Brienne dressing of course we interviewed just a few days ago and yeah you noticed similarities between your presentation and hers yeah so the pain that she describes in her legs and arms I would say is exactly the same so I feel like so I'm in constant neurological pain in my arms and my legs my legs particularly but at very best it's like a four out of 10 but I get flares every single day where it goes to 789 I want to chop my legs off I never know how long it's going to last for John so on a sometimes will start at 600 PM keep me up all night till 78 in the morning um and I literally exactly like Brienne said I'll be honest with you I've had lots of moments where you know I've considered you know it I'm like you know I feel like taking my own life at times because it's so painful cuz I just you just you just want it to go away you just want relief from that horrible pain yeah Brianne described it as like rolling in Cactus all the time I mean it's just unimaginable Adam it it's really hard to say other than when it's severe you can't I can't keep my legs still because it's impossible to sleep and ignore so the only way I cope with it John is I try and move so I put some of the neurological stimulus into my brain to try and override that but it it is pretty impossible because I try and walk through it and it makes it worse um and I would describe it as it's like being plugged into I imagine the mains the electricity Mains and it's going down all the backs of my legs and it's like also someone's dragging a knife down the backs of my legs constantly and I literally yeah I I grab my legs and I just want it to stop and at times I feel like should I just chopped my legs off that be less painful and I I feel if it's like it's like you're being tortured with electricity in a torture chamber somewhere yeah yeah yeah so I feel really guilty for saying that statement that I've just said because I am functional I can move my arms and legs but I yeah you're not paralyzed this is the sensation that's the problem yeah but I would there's times where I do consider quite frequent basis where you know I'd consider having them chopped off because it's so bad of course the irony is that although the pathology is probably in your legs there's probably peripheral vascular disease in your legs um neurological pain as you know can can be phantom um yeah I mean my case is very complex which is one of the reasons you know I like to talk to you today to explain that to people and one of the things they've said to me is they've they've called it like they they think have got like quite a severe they've called it thrombotic vasculitis and they're saying the pain is a schic pain andic not enough blood supply yeah yeah they're calling it a vascular neuropathy is what they think I I think that's there but a lot of these pains you're describing Adam are clearly neurological pains yeah clearly the the the the esic pain is crampy we have a condition it's called intermittent claudication uh the es schic pain is well described and well known but you while you have that you clearly have neurological pain as well yeah probably caused by inflammation of the peripheral nerves uh you've got both so you've described neurological features you've described cardiac features the chest pain and the rash you're also describing immunological features it seems to me you're getting a whole Spectrum well yeah I mean one of the things John that to be fair I don't want to come on here and criticize doctors individually or you know um because this is you know we're in new territory here but one of the things all the way through is nobody ever because I've had such a multi-stem complex presentation where you know I I'll go on to tell you it's in my heart my lungs Etc everywhere yeah um my compliments system uh so my compliments blood tests initially when I first got injured in hospital were very high so this is part of the natural defense against disease the compliment C designed to get rid of bacterial infections but but what's happened since then is um which I I didn't even know you know it's just it comes to my attention but my C4 compliments is now chronically low and has been that way since the accute nature of whatever happened to me and I didn't even know John because the first I heard was I got an email and a letter through the post from the NHS England and I got a letter through whoever's the chief medical officer a standard letter and it said you you're immune deficient and you know if you catch covid or any thingy to present to hospital with this email and show them straight away so I didn't realize that I was actually immune deficient so I've looked into my medical records and all I can find is on my they did an immune deficiency panel on me way back a year or so ago on my b cells uh particularly cd19 was extremely low um so I I don't know what bearing that has because again my presentation has been uh a lot of abnormal findings but none of them I from what I can gather fit and known disease process that's you know this cd19 it's it's a subdivision of the lymphocytes right which are normally used to fight viral infection right that they've become low for some reason it's a very strange immunological presentation right yeah so yeah so where am up to are you catching more infections Adam you getting coughs and colds and things all the time or yeah so one of the things that every I don't go out very often because you know it tends to be for a Hospital appointment or maybe if I'm lucky on a good day meet a friend for a coffee yeah um I do tend to pick up just colds and chest stuff all the time yeah yeah yeah yeah can you describe this chest pain you were getting because you know part of the reason we do these videos is other people recognize the symptoms so yeah what was the chest pain like that you were getting yeah so as I speak to you now on my best days M so you mean my chest pain at the beginning or now sorry yeah more more at the beginning yeah well both at the beginning when it was acute yeah so the chest pain no chest pain and it just felt like my heart was being something in my chest was being crushed with with very high intermittent stabbing pain so what I what I told myself John was because I was still trying to actually it was a bit silly but I was still trying to actually lift some very light weights to try to maintain what I had so I told you trying you you trying to cling to normality weren't you I mean that's that's all I knew yeah yeah yeah so I I I told myself it's just costocondritis which I knew it wasn't yeah which You' know about as a physiotherapist yeah yeah so I was just trying to minimize it in my head yeah yeah yeah yeah which of course is perfectly normal you try and minimize that you try denial because you don't want to have a cardiac condition I mean it's it's it's completely completely understandable um what about your your your renal function uh Adam I think that's gone down a bit has it your kidney function yeah so it's just on my estimated egfr so it's it's estimated GLA filtration yeah so it's just slowly crept down from where it was I think it was around about a 100 to begin with prior to being injured so uh and then I think it's it's you know into the 60s and stuff like that and a bit lower now so I don't know too much about it as in I don't get any pain but I got a letter from um a cardiologist who who' spotted that my you know on my Bloods my kidney function was decreasing so he's he suggested I go and see yet another specialist about that a kidney specialist you've been passed from Pillar To Post a bit haven't you as would say in English uh I could tell you how many different Specialties I can list them if you wish you know people would find it unbelievable yeah give us an illustration Adam here okay so let me count how many cardiologists I've seen I would probably say one two I've seen about five or six cardiologists I've seen one two three three neurologists two of them specialists in muscle disease I've seen two respiratory Consultants I've seen three different endocrinologists I've seen let me think who else I've been sent to I've seen vascular surgeon I've seen three different hematologists is there anyone actually in charge of your care um no so that that's the trouble where we stand at today John so essentially just to give everybody a brief update from last time because I know it's confusing after I spoke to you last time I actually had an invasive heart catheter so they basically diagnos with my heart that I've got microvascular disease in my heart which fits with everything else that they found um but they also said to me the cardiologist who was really good to be fair to him he said to me that I suspect looking at your biopsy results and everything all your over anomalies from your test that you've got an autoimmune condition with your heart and he said exactly what you're describing to me presents very much like a inflammatory myocarditis kind of thing and because of what's happening with Co and the vaccine he suspects that that's going on on like a almost like a subclinical level so he said to me that he feels that high dose steroids for me temporarily are the way forward and the planet has been discussed an MDT took place between the respiratory consultant the neurologist and a few others and they they felt like steroids and immune suppression is probably the only way forward foring on the NHS what they can provide um so the cardiologist felt he felt that that was the right way and feels like what's going on with my heart is with all my symptomatology he feels it's like a myocarditis pattern an inflammatory pattern on my heart so uh because he said the microvascular disease does not fit my presentation clinically um so yeah so he he he's left it to everybody else now the trouble that we've got from the MDT is um unfortunately the MDT wanted I was under a long Co clinic on the NHS this is a multidisciplinary team yeah and it was run by a very very excellent doctor there who was trying their utmost to help me um but unfortunately it was decided between the MDT that let's try him on steroids and immune drugs because we don't know what else to do for me so this is basically shotgun anti-inflammatory treatment isn't it yeah steroids would just prevent all the inflammation in the body I've had two two courses of steroids before Al L I was bedbound with pericarditis last year and was on high do steroids so that the heart stuff keeps coming back and I've had two lots of steroids for it before so yeah essentially it was decided that the long Co Clinic should oversee my care now I actually received a letter from the long Co Clinic um around about uh six weeks ago now and the long Co clinic at the hospital have actually said you shouldn't have actually been seen in the long Coy Clinic you're vaccine injured so you're not to be seen in the long Co clinic so the long Co CL long covid Clinic said you are not suitable for them yeah because you haven't got covid injury you've got vaccine injury yes I find that bizarre find that utterly bizarre yeah and then In fairness the consult who ran that clinic has said also they feel that because of the complexities of all my diagnosis um which again I can talk about them again if we need to with the biopsies they felt that they wasn't the best place person to supervise essentially what they're classing as experimental immunotherapy so they decided that they were going to refer me to the vasculitis service at the tertiary Center um but what has happened hased happed to me before John so they've referred me and I've received a letter to say the vasculitis service think I'm too complex and they can't help me and they don't want to take responsibility for me so they've passed me back now this happened a year ago John I was under a vascular surgeon who turned around to me and went I don't need to stent you anywhere he said but it's I think it's like you've smoked 60 cigarettes a day all your life I think you've got small blood vessel disease everywhere he said I'm going to refer you to Rheumatology which refused to see me a year ago so essentially my my kidneys have got worse my heart's got worse in this last year and I've still got no treatment um and that's where I find myself today um nobody knows what to do with me essentially which is a problem because you know it says in their letters that you know I've got an un you know I've got myopathy which they're saying is treatable the kind of myopathy I've got you know and they they're finding all these abnormal tests with me but it doesn't fit a known disease process so they they're saying you should have read the medical textbooks before you went to the doctor Adam shouldn't you nice neat box it's just unbelievable so yeah that's that's you think this would be stimulating their interest apart from anything else yeah well this is my annoyance John so I I actually Hot Potato I actually said at my last consultation to the consultant neurologist so I said to me so he said to me what we found in your biopsies is exactly the same as what we found in autopsy in the organs of people of the decease that died of covid this is the neurologist yes the neurologist told me that so so your biopsy was from where Adam the biopsy was actually from my gastrus in my Cal all right from your carf muscle right and that let them look at the small the muscle and the small nerves the the muscle and the capillar is yeah yeah and and what did the consultant say about this so it showed three things it showed the appearance of myotonic distrophy which is a genetic disease which I'm being tested for with Bloods and waiting the results because they did actually admit to me it's highly unlikely but they've said that they have it's been heard of before where vaccines and drugs have mutated somebody's genes it's possible um so they said that they had the impression of myotonic distrophy then they said it also showed the impression of somebody with myopathy a kind of muscle disease and then they also said it showed the complement c5b to C9 all over my muscles essentially in other words your immune system is beating up on your muscles yeah and my capillaries yeah so probably destroying your muscle cells if it's compliment yeah cuz what's happening is they've seen on the scans and stuff that my muscle is being replaced by FiOS tissue now right so you're losing muscle mass and it's becoming scarred yeah so this biopsy was done a whole year ago and nobody from that time knows what to do because it showed up you know all those things and they don't understand it it's three things that really shouldn't go together yeah yeah so this is the same as the seeing in postmortem specimens I believe that was the new neurologist's opinion just his opinion yeah he's actually documented that to be fair to him so people that died of what Co right and they're seeing these same features in you yeah yeah now the big question the big question in my mind Adam is are you still producing Spike protein now you do take Iva mechon don't you I do because it is one of the only things that has given me any small relief and benefit all the way through and does your doctor prescribe that for you uh the NHS doctors won't prescribe it but private doctors will yeah the pain relieving medication John I take the NHS won't prescribe but you know I have to pay for it privately as well yeah I mean just just tell us about when you first tried icin and you know this the stage of around and the and the effect what you perceived to be the effect of the ivme yeah so I didn't actually hear about Ivan meting or have access to a private doctor because I was trusting everything the NHS would telling me for the first year so it was June 2022 I think it was just after I came out of Hospital originally after sorry after the blood clops a year later and uh it was suggested that Ivan mein is working well for Co but also for people that are vaccine injured by a private doctor a private doctor yeah because I was suffering with pericarditis at the time so he suggested that um it was worth giving a trial and he said that there's generally people that respond very well to it and he suggested that I try it so I was you know pretty desperate at that time to get some relief and my health was pretty bad so this is June 2022 yeah yeah yeah so I I I tried it then and to be fair it's the only thing that with my heart what happens is I'm in constant pain of again three to four at best and then when I try and do activity on a good day it doesn't increase my pain too much but it's it's afterwards so in the evening time 3 hours later I get this horrendous pain and it can last for can last for the night or if I really inflame it for a number of days so I found that the icting really seems to help dampen the the pain and the inflammation down in my chest yeah and and what do do you take ixan every day at the moment or just when you need it yeah I I'm just taking it originally I took it every day but again because we're in unknown ter teritory here I I now take it two to three times a week because I believe that some people have a theory that if you take it every day the body gets accommodated to it and you get less results now ion has a very long halflife as well so once you've been taking it every day it will build up in the body potentially be storing the fat cells Etc in the body so I tried to weigh myself down to twice a week to see if it control my symptoms and it wasn't enough so just simply John because of the cost it it might not sound uh too much to a normal person but appreciate them on benefits um it cost me um2 for a dose of it so I try and take it sort of three to four times a week just to save money really more than anything else 12 milligram capsule I take higher I was originally on 32 um I I take about 16 um 16 Mig yeah yeah and how much does that cost per per dose it cost me2 per dose so it doesn't matter on the actual milligrams CU I get it compounded by a pharmacy so I just pay two pound per capsule yeah it's a pity you got to pay that much for it it's a very cheap drug yeah and and if you stop taking the icton what happens if I stop taking it my heart pain goes horrendous it it goes to the point where it starts at a six and a seven it means that I'm not able to engage with people like yourself because you know I'm I'm sort of starting to get a bit bent over too much pain yeah I can't participate at all with things um so yeah that's how it affects me just and my life is even more miserable than what it is at the m at the moment so things are bad now but if you stop your icting it gets way way worse yeah and then what happens is once the pain starts to get really bad once it's been there for a few days of many hours of severe pain that's when the arhythmia kicks in and everything else I start to get other symptoms with it at the moment thank goodness the actual aym of my heart is nowhere near as frequent as it was before it might only happen two or three times in a hour and then it might not happen for a week or so you know bad enough though and and when when you first took the Ivon did you notice the benefit straight away I did really yeah to be fair yeah I did yeah right so things are bad but they'd be way you believe they'd be way worse without the Ivon so you basically you can't get off it no because you know I was put on cugene from the you know from the cardiologists and that's sort of the standard treatment for pericarditis and it doesn't doesn't seem to do anything for for me for whatever reason yeah and for the pain do the standard things that we give for pain like Amat tripin for neurological pain or Gaba penting or preg gabbling do they do they help at all no so obviously Gaba penting and preg gabbling was what they initially offered me and doesn't even touch it whatsoever actually makes me feel worse cuz I feel like drunk and I feel like I feel like I'm sort of drugged is you know is basically the thing and then you know they've tried me on tramadol uh high dose of morphine with slow release oramorph and fast relief topup with with a a fast acting morphine I've literally had the lot um and no real benefit from morphine either no the morphine what it'll do John is it'll take the edge off so if I'm in like a an eight or a nine pain it'll take the edge off to like maybe a six or a seven but then it only lasts for about half an hour or an hour and then it's and then you're Zed with it yeah and I for me I don't want to you know I'm three years into this so is that the way that I'm supposed to live my life become I I don't correct me if I'm wrong John you know I'm a physi physiotherapist and the way that I was taught was that your your nerve endings actually become more sensitive to pain over time if you keep taking pain medication for a long time and then you either have to increase your dose or change your drug yeah after a certain amount of time opiates actually caused more pain than less pain yeah so that that is a big worry in M because I don't think I could mentally handle being in more pain yeah so what's um the immediate Way Forward do we know have we got is there anything um well one question you touched on it and correct me if I'm wrong and I've been asking this question and not getting an answer from any of these doctors I feel like I don't want to get focused on this Spike pro team but I asked the question to people when you know my body's attacking something I'm like what is my body attacking is it the spike protein and I I say is my body still producing Spike protein from the vaccine now I might be being stupid but I'd like that fundamental question crossed off the list and then if that's not a problem then so be it but I feel after three years that when I bring that up to people like to the Consultants they just go quiet and won't answer me so it's clear to me either they don't know or they don't want to tell me you know we know that your antibod to spike protein because you've shown as your blood results um you've got high levels of antibody to spike protein so the obvious tests two obvious tests that need done is the doctors need to test for the Your immunoglobulin Type M to spike protein and I believe that is still high so that's the immediate antibody that's produced straight away and of course the other test that we absolutely are crying out for and I believe this is available in some European Laboratories is a direct test to test for the presence of the spike protein itself what would call an antigen test have you ever had an antigen test to test see if you are still producing Spike protein no I haven't and it's something now that I'm going to do because you know I don't understand John why why the NHS aren't doing this because look I'm not trying to point blame at anybody here I just like to me it's like we're waiting you've got all these problems these disease processes in my body yeah they don't know how to treat them but like what's driving it so let's ask the question so if it is Spike protein for example this isn't potentially just happening to me so it's like should we not be trying to stop that and learn more about it you know it's the fundamental question are these symptoms caused by ongoing production of Spike protein yes okay let's think of what we can do about that no okay let's carry on and think of something else but get that question out of the way it's just just seems absurd we have the technology to test for the presence of the spike protein yeah why is that not being done if the Secretary of Health wants to let us no then she can give us a call um you know why is it not being done and you know I'm I'm coming on a because I'm you know I'm just a physical therapist so I'm probably an idiot right I've not got that medical training by any means Adam but yeah go on you know so so please you know if anyone's listening and can either you know shed some light on that please do for because I I don't get it after 3 years that can we just answer the basic yes no questions we can work down questions yeah yeah now uh if you're like I'm going to think out loud a little bit and you can ignore this if you want but I strongly suspect the answer to the question is yes you are still producing Spike protein and the reason I suspect that is the case is that but the itin is largely working by if that's the spike protein there that's doing damage then the itin is basically a cover of that right it forms a cap on the spike protein and stops the spike protein from doing its spiky damage and you have to keep on taking the icton because if you're still producing Spike protein new spikes are coming out all the time and if the I is there to cover the end of those Spike proteins then you're going to get less Spike protein and you know that taking repeat doses of icin is associated with lowering your symptoms so that is completely consistent the fact that the itin works for you to me means that you are still producing Spike protein now how long the itin is Bound for how long the icin binds the spike protein for I don't know could be quite some time but if you were still making Spike protein then there's new Spike protein and and that's uh yeah waiting to be banned by icin otherwise it causes severe symptoms I believe I mean I don't know but that's that my I believe see one of the treatments and therapies that have been turned down for over here is something called intravenous immunog goblins IVIG which is very expensive yeah Brienne had that didn't you yeah my doctors have asked for that but because I haven't got a licensed condition and this is new what's going on with me uh I'm not I'm not allowed to have it but I'm I don't know whether I'm wrong John but my understanding when I've asked the question the mechanism of action of that I'm told it actually does the similar thing it it binds and neutralizes the spike protein yeah could well it would make sense wouldn't it but um yeah I just I find it incredible that you know for me my concern is like why have somebody my big concern is is you know this technology is being rolled out for other things right and let's find out now what's going on and why bury our heads in the sand and let's let's some positives come out of it like the like you know there's enough people affected and yeah I just like some good to come out of it and and study us and and find out what's going on rather than it's like I must be an idiot like I don't understand why I'm being ignored you know and treated like this well you and me both Adam you and me both yeah yeah and the fact that you notice similarities with with Brienne um means that there's the potential here for putting together a cohort of people with similar clinical features and that is how you start a research project yeah this should be getting done yeah um you know it's just such an obvious way to do the research and yet it it doesn't seem to be happening I mean it's frustrating for me as an external obser it but for for you to be suffering on a daily basis I can't imagine what the frustration must be like it must just be appalling it it's you know John it's I'm sure you've had this before you know it's like you know I took the vaccine so it's my responsibility but when you were you know I never got informed consent unfortunately because no you took it because you thought it was the right thing to do and you were told the vaccine was safe and effective yeah we didn't I didn't as when I took it I didn't get told it was experiment mental that hadn't been authorized you know and you know I since find out that the vaccine manufacturers told the government that we don't know the longterm effects so I'm like fair enough okay that's happened this has happened to me now I did my buying but you guys won't even it's just like that it's like just leave him to it we don't and I don't blame the doctors here in in the NHS but someone in the government or someone high up in the NHS needs to turn and go you know what this is what's happened to these poor people and let's at least try and do our best it's not it might not bring everything back for us but at least I feel like people are being genuine people back and trying the best rather than leaving me like you know and leaving so many others you're An Inconvenient Truth Adam 100% 100% yeah yeah you're also a human being and I find the whole thing completely outrageous where are you with the compensation the government compensation scheme yeah I um I've applied for it but because my I've been under so many different doctors and so many hospitals have been sent up and down the country um I've been to two different hospitals in London Birmingham three hospitals in Manchester i' I've Been Everywhere You Name It um they're having to write for the notes everywhere so it's just ongoing my case is been investigated um I'd just like to say though I'd like to point out that it's £120,000 it's not about money for me at all however the reality of the situation is that money I was earning I was lucky I was earning above average income but even on the average UK income it's four years worth of income EXA it's not a fortune and the the blood Scandal the inflected blood Scandal I think they're looking at something like 2 million each yeah well again for me John I'm not looking for money if anyone give me any money tomorrow it would be pain to get treatment exactly you know because I'm not getting it off the NHS all you want is to get better I I I wanted to prolong my life for my children and and to you know and to be just like anybody else just be a good person um and you know obviously I can't provide for myself so I could be potentially homeless soon so what am I supposed to do yep we need a ownership we need a response and we need a way forward and at the moment we really haven't got one on a brighter note we're meeting this weekend I think on Sunday aren't we at uh Glasgow we are and uh it's something again we hugely grateful to yourself for coming I mean really excited about that and some other great speakers uh I can't back to the no is it is it bring on the noise yeah I think he's a chat that makes a bit of noise yeah John wat yeah yeah yeah yeah we have interviewed John and Alex of course yeah yeah and Alex is somebody who's um I've heard his story many times but when you interviewed him again it uh it's it's very humbling to listen to story Alex was one of the 68 people or so in the country I think that's had the compensation because he he had a leg amputated you know I mean you can kind of see that can't you if you have a leg amputated it's something fairly obvious yeah whereas you know um whereas with you it's kind of yeah easy to brush it's kind of harder to see so uh I I I've got so much um I owe Alex so much because Alex was the person that was there when I thought I was the only person this had happened to I wasn't someone for social media and and Alex found me on social media and he actually I was in the hospital John and he called me and it meant so much to me um so so yeah can I show you what um I've been really touched by this uh so Manchester United have actually give us a sign top to auction at the event so I'd like to just show you I'll just grabb it so I'm really pleased about this because obviously you know we're censored everywhere and just want to show everyone I don't know if you can see the signatures on there yeah so that that that was that was from the cut finals Squad who' actually signed it before the Cup Final really yeah yeah yeah so um man united have uh spoke to me and hugely supportive of us and I've just been like blown away that you know everybody else in mainstream media and you know people it's been a real battle to get anyone to listen to us and and yeah man united have donated that to the event so um signed by the whole team signed by the the Cup Final Squad yeah yeah wow is this going to be for the raffle or something that must be the main prize uh I think we're going to auction it because auction that sounds better yeah yeah if you're in the United States you won't know but we're just describing the crown jewels of British sport here um there are quite a few uh American Manu fans John there's quite worldwide uh fan base yeah no it's it's a huge deal I mean no I I think if it's an online auction that should because the whole point of this event all the speakers including myself uh taking no no fee at all i' I I think all the speakers have turned down expenses I've certainly refused expenses um it's purely to raise money for people with vaccine injuries that's yeah that's it that that's it that that's what it's for yeah I can confirm nobody's taking any money John yeah yeah that's good okay so we'll report back after that of course and uh it' be good to shake hands when I finally meet you Adam yeah yeah we've talked a few times but um for now thank you very much and of course you're welcome back anytime for further updates and people around the world will be relating to the symptoms that you've described and uh yeah and again I the main reason for doing this really you're not alone no and I'll be honest I didn't read all the comments because there was so many after last time um if people want to contact me the best way is probably via X or Twitter uh my handle is one ads o n a DS um the only reason I'm putting that out there is I just want to say like um I you know we're all trying to fight this thing together and it's only if we all have a collective voice that anything can change and any good can come out of this so I just like you know appeal to everyone to connect and stay strong together and there's times on this journey where you know I'm too sick to speak out and other people need to take the botom forward and yeah so I just want everyone to keep working together keep connecting in and and let's hope eventually some good can come out of of of what we're doing yeah absolutely Adam thank you looking forward to seeing you on Sunday you too John thank you

Channel: Dr. John Campbell

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Published: Wed May 29 2024