BRET? >> Bret: TREY YINGST IN KABUL, AFGHANISTAN. TREY, THANK YOU. LET'S BRING IN FORMER HAWAII DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSWOMAN, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND ARMY RESERVIST TULSI GABBARD JUST BACK FROM DEPLOYMENT IN AFRICA TO GO AFTER AL-QAEDA AFFILIATE JIHADI U.SS THERE. CONGRESSWOMAN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. >> HEY, BRET. >> Bret: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AFGHANISTAN FOREIGN POLICY AND COUNTER-TERRORISM. I WANT TO START ON THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION THAT'S PRESSING NOW IN THE NEWS. YOU TWEETED OUT THIS TODAY. YOU SAID THE BIDEN-HARRIS OPEN DOOR POLICY HAS BEEN A DISASTER. IT NEEDS TO END NOW. THE MAIN BENEFICIARIES OF OPEN BORDERS GANGS, CARTELS AND HUMAN TRAFFICKERS. THE TRUMP POLICY OF HAVING PEOPLE WAIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BORDER WORKED AND NEEDS TO BE REINSTATED. YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DEL RIO AND HOW THE ADMINISTRATION IS HANDLING IT. >> IT IS AN UTTER DISASTER AND FAILURE AND IT DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTED TO THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATION'S OPEN-BORDER POLICY. THIS IS NOT ONLY A HUMANITARIAN CRISIS. IT IS A NATIONAL SECURITY CRISIS AND IT'S SOMETHING I HAVE SAID ALL ALONG, WHICH IS THAT IF WE DO NOT SECURE OUR BORDERS, THEN WE CAN'T HAVE A SECURE NATION. THERE ARE SO MANY ISSUES THAT HAVE HAPPENED UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION THAT HAVE LED TO THIS POINT AND THEIR CONTINUED FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP IS EXACERBATING THE CRISIS THAT WE ARE SEEING PLAY OUT BEFORE OUR VERY EYES. >> Bret: DO YOU THINK, HAVING BEEN IN CONGRESS, THAT CONGRESS CAN DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE? >> CONGRESS HAS PROVEN, UNFORTUNATELY, TO PUT PARTISAN POLITICS AHEAD OF ACTUALLY PASSING REAL NECESSARY IMMIGRATION POLICY REFORM. BUT WHAT WE HAVE SEEN UNDER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION, UNFORTUNATELY AND JOE BIDEN IS A FRIEND, I HOLD NO MALICE TOWARDS HIM. BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE POLICIES AND DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE VIA EXECUTIVE ORDER BY THE WHITE HOUSE HAVE LED TO THIS OPEN BORDER POLICY WITH THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE COMING AND ATTEMPTING TO AND SOMETIMES SUCCESSFULLY STREAMING ACROSS THE BORDER. >> Bret: YOU THINK THAT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY THREAT AS WELL? >> IT ABSOLUTELY IS. HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT IT'S NOT WHEN WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO IS COMING ACROSS THE BORDER AND, ONCE AGAIN, HOW CAN WE ENSURE SAFETY AND SECURITY FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A SECURE BORDER? >> Bret: ALL RIGHT. THE COUNTER-TERRORISM FIGHT. THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT HOW IT'S EVOLVING, HOW IT'S GOING TO CHANGE. TAKE A LISTEN. >> WE WILL MEET TERRORIST THREATS THAT ARISE TODAY AND THE FUTURE IN A FULL RANGE OF TOOLS AVAILABLE TO US. WE ARE BETTER EQUIPPED TO DETECT AND PREVENT TERRORIST THREATS AND WE ARE MORE RESILIENT IN OUR ABILITY TO REPEL THEM AND TO RESPOND. >> Bret: A LOT OF PEOPLE, CONGRESSWOMAN, WHO SAY WHAT HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN, WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW, AND HOW WE HANDLED IT HAS REALLY OPENED THE DOOR FOR MORE TERRORISTS. YOU HAVE JUST COME BACK FROM AFRICA WHICH IS ALSO A HOT BED OF RADICAL JIHADISTS. YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHERE WE ARE. >> WELL, AS YOU KNOW, BRET, IN BOTH EAST AND WEST AFRICA, THERE IS A SURGE OF THESE JIHADISTS TERRORISTS AL-QAEDA, ISIS AND AFFILIATED GROUPS ARE INCREASING IN THEIR STRENGTH. THE WITHDRAWAL FROM AFGHANISTAN IS SOMETHING THAT I AGREED WITH YOU ABOUT, UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION EXECUTED THAT WITHDRAWAL HAS BEEN AN UTTER AND ABJECT DISASTER WHICH IS CONTINUING TO PLAY OUT AS WE SPEAK. FOR THOSE WHO SAY AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR AFGHANISTAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO AL-QAEDA AND ISIS STRONGHOLDS THAT ARE ALLOWED TO START TO TAKE ROOT. IF WE ARE SEEING THAT THAT IS STARTING TO HAPPEN, THEN WE NEED TO GO AND TAKE THEM OUT. BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE UNDER THE ALLUSION THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT'S ONLY LIMITED TO AFGHANISTAN AND THE PROOF OF THAT IS THAT AL-QAEDA FOR A VERY LONG TIME HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET REFUGE AND ACTUALLY HAVE TRAINING CAMPS AND SUPPORT IN PAKISTAN, WHICH IS A PROBLEM THAT NOT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED BUT WE HAVE SEEN THE UNITED STATES CONTINUE TO SUPPORT PAKISTAN IN SPITE OF THIS KNOWN FACT AND RELATE. SO THIS IS A BIGGER ISSUE HERE THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. ADDRESS >> Bret: ARE YOU STILL A DEMOCRAT. >> YES. >> AND CONTINUE TO BE DESPITE THE CRITICISM ON A NUMBER OF FRONTS. >> LOOK, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABOUT PARTY POLITICS, BRET. I THINK YOU KNOW THAT ABOUT ME. I'M ABOUT PUTTING COUNTRY FIRST. THE PROBLEMS THAT WE ARE SEEING ON A WHOLE HOST OF POLICY FRONTS IS THOSE IN POSITIONS OF POWER AND LEADERSHIP, PUTTING PARTISAN POLITICS, THEIR OWN SELFISH DESIRE FOR POWER AHEAD OF THE INTERESTS OF THE COUNTRY. AHEAD THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE. AND THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS TRY TO DO MY VERY BEST IN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT POLICIES IS WE HAVE TO PUT THE PEOPLE AND THE INTERESTS OF OUR COUNTRY FIRST. >> Bret: WELL, I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THIS. WE ARE JUST GETTING THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG ABOUT THIS JOHN DURHAM INVESTIGATION AND THERE'S BEEN AN INDICTMENT OF A HILLARY CLINTON CLINTON ATTORNEY, MR. SUSSMANN, ABOUT BASICALLY INFUSING THIS RUSSIA NARRATIVE WITH THE HELP OF VARIOUS MEDIA OUTLETS AND OTHERS. AND IT MAY GO OVER PLACES. WE DON'T KNOW. WE ARE FOLLOW IT BUT YOU HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE IN THAT HILLARY CLINTON ONCE CALLED YOU A RUSSIAN ASSET. JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE. TAKE A LISTEN. >> THERE ARE GOODS GOING TO DO THIRD PARTY. I'M NOT MAKING ANY PREDICTIONS. BUT I THINK THEY HAVE GOT THEIR EYE ON SOMEBODY WHO IS CURRENTLY IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY. AND THEY ARE GROOMING HER TO BE THE THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE. SHE IS A FAVORITE OF THE RUSSIANS. YEAH, SHE IS A RUSSIAN ASSET YOU I MEAN TOTALLY. THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T WIN WITHOUT A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE. >> Bret: THEY WENT ON TO CONFIRM THAT THAT WAS YOU THAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO. YOUR THOUGHTS AS WE ARE STARTING TO GET THIS DURHAM INVESTIGATION AND WHAT THAT MEANS. >> CONFIRMS WHAT I HAVE KNOWN TO BE TRUE, WHICH IS THAT YOU HAVE THE POWER ELITE, PEOPLE LIKE HILLARY CLINTON, THOSE AROUND HER WORKING WITH THE MEDIA, THE DEEP STATE IN ORDER TO BRING DOWN THE DESTRUCTION AND DOWNFALL OF ANYONE THAT THEY DEEM TO BE A THREAT TO THEIR POWER. OUTSIDERS, PEOPLE LIKE ME, PEOPLE LIKE DONALD TRUMP, IT DOESN'T MATTER, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, IF THEY IDENTIFY, HEY, THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IS NOT GOING TO TOE THE LINE. THIS IS NOT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT GOING TO FOLLOW KIND OF THE ESTABLISHMENT WAY OF THINGS THAT ARE ACCEPTED, THEY POSE A THREAT. AND WE WILL DO -- THEY WILL DO ALL THEY CAN TO SILENCE OR SENSOR OR CANCER WHAT THEY VIEW TO BE A THREAT. SO THIS IS BIGGER THAN ABOUT ME OR TRUMP OR ANYONE ELSE. THIS IS ACTUALLY A THREAT TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR DEMOCRACY. AND THE ARROGANCE THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN THINKING THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO MANIPULATE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT THEY VIEW, WHAT THEY HEAR, WHAT THEY SEE ALL TO PRESERVE THEIR OWN SELFISH INTERESTS, NOT CARING AT ALL ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE COUNTRY, THE IMPACT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OR WHO GETS HURT ALONG THE WAY.
