>> MY ALL-STAR PANEL IS BACK WITH ME. NEIL AND MAYA, I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO TRUMP'S ATTORNEY, JOHN LAURA, WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ON FOX ON THURSDAY. >> ULTIMATELY, WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID IS, LET'S GO WITH OPTION D. LET'S JUST HALT, LET'S PAUSE THE VOTING AND ALLOW THE STATE LEGISLATURES TO TAKE ONE LAST LOOK AND MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE ELECTIONS WERE HANDLED FAIRLY. THAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. THAT IS NOT AN ISSUE OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. >> NEIL, WAS THAT A DEFENSE? OR DID HE JUST ADMIT THAT TRUMP COMMITTED A CRIME? >> THEY ADMITTED THAT IT'S SOMETHING DONALD TRUMP ADMITTED HIMSELF EARLIER. SO, I DON'T THINK THAT ATTORNEY MADE ANY PARTICULAR NEWS IN THAT STATEMENT. BASICALLY, WHAT THEY'RE BOTH SAYING IS TRUMP EXERCISED HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS. WHAT JACK SMITH HAS DONE, IN THIS RELENTED TIGHT-KNIT ON PAGE TWO, IS HEAD THAT OFF RIGHT AWAY. TRUMP COULD BELIEVE WHATEVER THE HECK HE WANTS, BUT YOU CAN'T GO AND BE ORDERING PEOPLE TO BASICALLY HAVE FAKE ELECTORS IN SEVEN STATES, TRY TO DISRUPT THE MOST SOLEMN COUNTS OUR NATION HAS ON JANUARY SIX AND THE LIKE. THOSE ARE CRIMES. THIS IS AN ATTEMPTED COUP. IT'S ILLEGAL EVERY DAY OF EVERY WEEK. >> AND MAYA, THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS ADMISSION BY LAURO SO INCREDIBLE. HE'S SAYING YEAH, THE PRESIDENT HAS FREE SPEECH, BUT HERE IS THE ACTION THAT HE TOOK THAT MAKES THIS A CRIME. >> KNOWING THAT, JACK SMITH ADDRESSES THIS DIRECTLY IN THE INDICTMENT. HE SAYS NUMBER ONE, YEAH. THE PRESIDENT, FORMER PRESIDENT, IS FREE TO LIE. BUT HE IS NOT FREE TO TAKE AN ACT TO BLOCK THE VOTE COUNTING, AND IN THE INDICTMENT, THE INDICTMENT ASSERTS THE VERY OPPOSITE, ACTUALLY, OF WHAT MR. LAURO SAID, WHICH IS ALSO A CRIME. BOTH OF THEM ARE. IT'S AN ADMISSION. BUT IN THE INDICTMENT, HE SAYS DONALD TRUMP SAYS TO PENCE, YOU KNOW, DO YOU ONE OF THESE TWO THINGS, BUT COCONSPIRATOR TO, JOHN EASTMAN SAID. EITHER SET THEM BACK TO THE STATES OR JUST UNILATERALLY BLOCK THEM, PENCE SAYS YOUR OWN LAWYER IS TELLING YOU I DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO THIS. MEANING EASTMAN. AND TRUMP SAYS, THAT'S OKAY. BECAUSE I ACTUALLY LIKE THE OTHER OPTION BETTER. AND THE OTHER OPTION IS, JUST UNILATERALLY DECLARE THE PRESIDENT. >> AND SPEAKING OF THE COCONSPIRATORS, SIX COCONSPIRATORS ARE MENTIONED IN THIS INDICTMENT. THE FIRST FIVE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED. BUT MARK MEADOWS IS NOTICEABLY MISSING. I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE PARAGRAPH IF THE FIVE IN THE INDICTMENT CAUGHT MY EYE. IT ADDRESSES THE PLAN TO EXPAND THE FAKE ELECTORS SCHEME AND STATES QUOTE, THIS EXPANSION WAS FORECAST BY EMAILS THAT DEFENDANTS CHIEF OF STAFF SENT ON DECEMBER SIX, FORWARDING THE WISCONSIN MEMO TO CAMPAIGN STAFF AND WRITING, WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOMEONE COORDINATING THE ELECTORS FOR STATES. NEIL, AFTER READING THAT, HOW CAN MARK MEADOWS NOT BE CONSIDERED A COCONSPIRATOR? >> YEAH, I THINK MARK MEADOWS IS DEEP IN ITS. I THINK THE FINDINGS OF THE JANUARY SIX COMMITTEE, YEAH, HE IS NOT IN THE INDICTMENT. BUT WE ARE ALL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON. THERE ARE SIX OTHER PEOPLE, AS YOU SAY, WHO WERE NAMED OR IDENTIFIED AS COCONSPIRATORS. BUT NOT MARK MEADOWS. SOME SUGGESTION THAT HE'S COOPERATING WITH JACK SMITH. HE MAY NOT HAVE FLIPPED, BUT HE IS COOPERATING. HE IS FACING CRIMINAL EXPOSURE AND PROBABLY TRYING TO WORK OUT SOME SORT OF ARRANGEMENT. >> I WANT TO GET BOTH NEAL AND YOU ANTHONY ON THIS. BUT -- I'LL COME TO YOU FIRST. YOU BELIEVE THIS TRIAL SHOULD BE TELEVISED. WHY? >> I DO. I THINK THE BRIGHT LIGHT OF TRANSPARENCY, IT'S THE BEST DISINFECTANT AGAINST MISINFORMATION. AND THERE'S ONE OF TWO WAYS TO DO THIS. JONATHAN, I GUESS THAT THE JUDICIAL CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED STATES HAS THE POLICY MAKING BODY A FEDERAL JUDGES CAN CHANGE THE RULES. THEY MEET SEMI ANNUALLY. THE NEXT MEETING IS IN SEPTEMBER. IT SHOULD BE ON THE TOP OF THEIR LIST. BUT SECOND, SECOND WAY TO DO IT IS BE AN ACT OF CONGRESS. SO, IF THE JUDICIAL CONFERENCE DOESN'T TAKE THAT ACTION, MY HOPE IS CONGRESS DOES. AND NEIL WROTE AN AMAZING OP-ED ABOUT THIS. IN THE WASHINGTON POST ON THURSDAY. THE ONLY BONE I HAVE TO PICK WITH YOUR OP-ED'S I DIDN'T WRITE IT FIRST. [LAUGHTER] BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT WAS PRETTY PERFECT. >> NELSONS, YOUR NAME HAS BEEN INVOKED, I WAS GOING TO GO ON. THIS YOU DID WRITE AN OP-ED IN THE WASHINGTON POST, WHICH WENT ONLINE AND WAS WITNESS TODAY. THE, FOURTH, FIFTH BEAT WENT ONLINE ON THURSDAY. SO, WHAT WAS YOUR ARGUMENT? >> ANTHONY, FIRST OF ALL, YOU INSPIRED THE OP-ED. EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT,. >> THANK YOU, THANK, YOU THANK YOU. >> THE BASIC ARGUMENT IS THE CRIMINAL TRIAL IN THIS CASE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT TRIAL OF OUR LIFETIMES. ONE OF THE HANDFUL OF MOST IMPORTED CASES IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THIS TRIAL IS IN THE NAME OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. AND IT IS PAID FOR BY OUR TAX DOLLARS. THIS COURT IS PAID FOR BY OUR TAX DOLLARS. WE THE PEOPLE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO SEE IT. AND ONE IMPORTANT REASON IS BECAUSE TRUMP IS A MASTER OF DISINFORMATION, A MASTER OF WHIPPING UP RUMOR MONGERS AND CONSPIRACY THEORISTS, AND ALL OF THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN, UNLESS THIS TRIAL IS TELEVISED. IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY, BUT THE BEST ANTIDOTE TO THAT IS OUR GREAT JUSTICE, LOUIS BRANDEIS SAID, -- IT'S THE BEST DISINFECTANT. LET THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WATCHED THIS TRIAL FOR THEMSELVES. TRUMP ATTORNEY KNOWS THAT -- SAYS HE SUPPORTS CAMERAS IN THE COURTROOM FOR THIS TRIAL. I SUSPECT THAT DONALD TRUMP WILL WALK AWAY FROM THAT, BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID OF SUNLIGHT AWAY VAMPIRES ARE AFRAID OF SUNLIGHT AND GARLIC. BUT YOU KNOW, HE SAID IT FOR NOW. I THINK WE SHOULD TAKE
