Trump closer to prison with coup charges: Melber on how this ‘changes everything’

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JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE. IT ADDS NEW EVIDENCE. AND IN YOUR SPECIAL REPORT NOW, ONE DAY OUT FROM THE INDICTMENT DROPPING, WE ARE GOING TO DIG INTO THE REVELATIONS WITH YOU, BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE BACKS UP THE CHARGES TRUMP CONSPIRED TO DEFRAUD THE U.S., OBSTRUCTION PROCEEDING AND. NOW, SOME OF THE THWARTED ATTEMPTS WERE STOPPED. SOME OF THE PLOTS WORKED UP TO A POINT. BUT REMEMBER -- AND SMITH USES THIS IN THE INDICTMENT -- TRUMP'S EFFORTS DID DELAY THE CERTIFICATION OF PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN'S WIN ON JANUARY 6th. IT DID NOT HAPPEN AT THE APPOINTED TIME. SMITH EXPOSES THAT TRUMP OFFICIALS WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING ONE YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN, WERE READY FOR VIOLENCE IN ADVANCE, INCLUDING A CHILLING EXCHANGE WITH JEFFREY CLARK, AN UNINDICTED COCONSPIRATOR. HE WORKED AT DOJ AND TRIED TO HIJACK THAT ENTIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH, AGAIN, INTERESTINGLY IS NOW CHARGING DONALD TRUMP AND LISTS HIM AS AN UNINDICTED COCONSPIRATOR. HE TRIED TO OVERTHROW HIS BOSSES, A WHITE HOUSE LAWYER TOLD CLARK THE LEGAL FACT THAT TRUMP WOULD VACATE FOR BIDEN AND ANY COUP WOULD BE MET WITH PROTESTS AND RIOTS. SMITH SAYS CLARK RESPONDED, THAT'S WHY THERE'S AN INSURRECTION ACT. THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS TONIGHT. THAT'S COMING FROM INSIDE THE GOVERNMENT. TRUMP'S DOJ HACK, ONE INDICTED COCONSPIRATOR, RAISING THE IDEA THAT THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP MIGHT USE MILITARY FORCE TO HOLD ON TO POWER, TO CRUSH PROTESTS. THAT'S INCRIMINATING. AND THERE WERE SIGNS THAT THE MILITARY NATIONAL GUARD WOULD NOT FOLLOW ANY ATTEMPTED ILLEGAL ORDERS BY THE OUTGOING PRESIDENT. INDEED, THERE WAS REPORTING ON THAT, YOU MIGHT RECALL. BY THE END OF JANUARY 6th, THOSE FORCES WERE CALLED IN TO HALT THE FANS OF DONALD TRUMP AND THEIR NOW CONVICTED CRIMES, NOT TO HELP TRUMP ILLEGALLY STAY IN OFFICE. THAT NEW EVIDENCE SUGGESTS SMITH HAS NOTES OR TESTIMONY FROM THE PERSON ON THE OTHER END OF THAT CONVERSATION, THE SAME PATH TO NEW DETAILS ON HOW TRUMP TRIED TO ISSUE A LEGAL DEMAND TO VICE PRESIDENT PENCE AS THE CHARGES CITE CONTEMPORANEOUS NOTES BY PENCE, WHICH MEANS LIKE COMBY, FIGURED OUT WHEN TRUMP MAKES SKETCHY DEMANDS YOU NEED RECEIPTS. THINK OF THE TANTALIZING DETAIL OF THE CONVERSATION. THIS WAS DAYS BEFORE THE RIOT, PENCE TELLING INVESTIGATORS HOW TRUMP WAS BERAING PENCE BY PHONE, AND WHEN PENCE STATED THE OBVIOUS FACT, TRUMP RESPONDED, QUOTE, YOU'RE TOO HONEST. EVERYONE SAW THE DANGER PENCE FACED FROM TRUMP FANS. SECURITY VIDEO SHOWED OPINIONS FLEEING FROM THE MOB. HIS BOSS UNLEASHED. NOW, THE INDICTMENT SHOWS LATE INTO THE NIGHT AFTER PENCE FLED, AFTER LAW ENFORCEMENT RESTORED ORDER, AFTER EVERYTHING WENT DOWN, TRUMP AND HIS AIDES CONTINUED THEIR PLOT TO HIJACK THE CERTIFICATION. THEY USED THAT VIOLENCE AND PRESSED ON. IT SHOWS TRUMP TRYING TO REACH TWO SENATORS AS LATE AS 6:00 P.M. THAT DAY. THAT'S AFTER EVERYTHING WENT DOWN. AND SMITH ENDS THE SPEAKING INDICTMENT WITH THAT AS THE DAMNING CLIMAX, SHOWING WHILE THE NATION SAW THE SENATE RECONVENE ON THE FLOOR RANSACKED BY TRUMP FANS, THE CONVICTED SEDITIONISTS, HORROR AT THE INSURRECTION THAT JUST UNFOLDED THAT SENT THEM FLEEING AND RUNNING AND SCARED, THAT WORD INSURRECTION WAS FIRST USED ON THE FLOOR THAT NIGHT BY REPUBLICAN MITCH McCONNELL. WHILE THAT WAS THE WIDESPREAD PUBLIC REACTION, THIS NEW INDICTMENT SHOWS HOW TRUMP AND SOME OF HIS AIDES WERE CONTINUING THE ALLEGED CONSPIRACY. NOW, WE PULLED THIS FOR YOU BECAUSE I GOT TELL YOU, AFTER EVERYTHING AND HOW MUCH THE REPUBLICANS BACK SLID, IT CAN BE EASY TO FORGET JUST HOW STRONGLY EVEN SOME OF TRUMP'S GOP ALLIES WERE REBUKING THE INSURRECTION THAT VERY NIGHT. >> WE WILL NOT BOW TO LAWLESSNESS OR INTIMIDATION. THIS FAILED INSURRECTION ONLY UNDERSCORES HOW CRUCIAL THE TASK BEFORE US IS FOR OUR REPUBLIC. >> ALL I CAN SAY IS COUNT ME OUT. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. >> Reporter: >> NOW, THOSE QUOTES ARE NOT OFFERED TONIGHT IN THE SERVICE OF JUDGMENT OR POLITICAL HYPOCRISY OR MANY OF THE OTHER WAYS WE HAVE HEARD THEM IN THE PAST. THEY'RE OFFERED IN THIS LEGAL SPECIAL REPORT FOR ONE EVIDENTIARY REASON ALONE -- TO REMIND EVERYONE AS JACK SMITH DOES IN THIS INDICTMENT, THAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM BOTH PARTIES. I COULD HAVE SHOWN YOU OTHER MEMBERS OF CONGRESS OF COURSE REBUKING THAT INSURRECTION. IT WAS TAKEN AS A KIND OF AUTOMATIC, OBVIOUS THING THAT THIS WAS TERRIBLE AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CERTIFY. INDEED, WHATEVER YOU THINK OF DONALD TRUMP'S VERY LATE TWEETS, EVEN THEY PUBLICLY CLAIMED THAT IT WAS TIME TO GO HOME AND BE PEACEFUL. JACK SMITH ISN'T JUST RELYING ON WHAT POLITICIANS SAY IN PUBLIC. SO LET ME SHOW YOU SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT A LOT MORE LIKELY DONALD TRUMP COULD END UP IN PRISON. IN SECRET, TRUMP AND HIS UNINDICTED COCONSPIRATORS CONTINUED ON, AS I SHOWED YOU THERE, ATTEMPTING TO REACH SENATORS AS LATE AS 6:00 P.M. THERE'S MORE. IT'S WORTH RECALLING AFTER ALL THAT, EIGHT REPUBLICANS STILL BACKED THE PLOT BY VOTING AGAINST CERTIFYING BIDEN'S WIN THAT NIGHT. NOW, WHAT WERE DONALD TRUMP'S UNINDICTED COCONSPIRATORS PUSHING FOR IN THEIR LAST DESPERATE PITCH? YOU ARE FORGIVEN IF YOU DON'T EXACTLY REMEMBER. SOME OF THIS IS PUBLIC, SOME WE'RE LEARNING FROM INDICTMENT AND DETAILS. BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT, AGAIN, FOR WHAT A JURY WILL HEAR AND DECIDE ABOUT WHETHER TO CONVICT TRUMP. WHETHER TRUMP WOULD SPEND FUTURE DAYS NOT IN AN OVAL OFFICE BUT IN A RECTANGULAR CAGE. JACK SMITH NOTES MINUTES BEFORE MIDNIGHT, LAWYER JOHN EASTMAN WAS BACK AT IT, PRESSING MIKE PENCE'S LAWYER IN WRITING, IN AN EMAIL, THAT THEY SHOULD STILL TRY TO FRAUDULENTLY CLAIM WHEN THEY RECONVENE THERE WAS A FAKE VIOLATION IN THE ELECTORAL COUNT ACT. FOR TEN DAYS THAT WAS THE PITCH. JUST GIVE US TEN MORE DAYS TO ALLOW THE LEGISLATURES TO FINISH THEIR INVESTIGATIONS. YOU SEE 11:44 P.M. AT THE TOP OF YOUR SCREEN. THAT'S FROM THE INDICTMENT. THIS WAS AFTER PENCE FLED FOR HIS LIFE. THE PLOTTERS WERE STILL TRYING TO DEMAND HE WOULD JOIN THEM IN THE PLOT HATCHED AGAINST HIM. THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED, THOSE TEN DAYS. LISTEN TO ONE OF THE REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED AGAINST CERTIFICATION THAT NIGHT, AFTER THE VIOLENCE, AFTER THE INSURRECTION, AFTER McCONNELL SAID THIS WAS A TERRIBLE INSURRECTION. LISTEN THE THIS TRUMP ALLY IN THE CONTEXT THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT ASKING FOR WHAT? A TEN-DAY DELAY. >> WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS UNPRECEDENTED ALLEGATIONS OF VOTER FRAUD. CONDUCT A TEN-DAY EMERGENCY AUDIT. CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE. >> THAT WAS THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE, JAN 6th, TEN-DAY AUDIT. THAT'S HOW THE NIGHT ENDED. WHAT'S VITAL IN THIS STORY, AND WE HAVE MORE LATER IN THE PROGRAM, IS HOW SMITH BROADENS THE CASE THAT YOU SEE HERE, NOT JUST ONE DAY, BUT A LONG RUNNING COUP CONSPIRACY. THE FRAUDULENT ELECTORS PLOT WHICH BEGINS ON THE UPPER LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN AS MARKED GREEN, BECAUSE INITIALLY THERE WAS NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT LINING UP THE POSSIBILITY OF OTHER ELECTORS. THAT WAS WEEKS PRIOR, AND IT CONTINUES, TURNING TO SOMETHING ELSE BY THE TIME YOU GET TO JANUARY. THIS BEGAN WITH THE RANGE OF SHAM PROCEEDINGS, AS SMITH CALLS THEM, ACROSS SEVEN STATES DESIGNED THE FRAUDULENTLY INSTILL SOME KIND OF DOUBT ABOUT LAWFUL BIDEN ELECTORS THERE. AND THEN GIULIANI GIVING LYING PRESENTATIONS. BY THE WAY, HE RECENTLY ADMITTED UNDER LEGAL PRESSURE THAT HE WAS LYING ON SOME OF THE MATTERS. TRUMP AIDES WERE SO DESPERATE THEY EVEN LIED TO THEIR OWN MOST HARD CORE REPUBLICAN FANS THAT HE RECRUITED TO JOIN THE PLOT. AGAIN FROM THE INDICTMENT, GIULIANI FALSELY ASSURED REPUBLICANS IN BIDEN WON STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA THAT THEY'D ONLY USE THE CERTIFICATES IF TRUMP PROCEEDED IN LITIGATION TO WIN BACK THAT STATE. THAT WAS A LIE. THEY DON'T JUST LIE TO, YOU KNOW, THE OPPONENTS OR THE REFEREES OR LIE ABOUT THE PRESS HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE. THEY'RE LYING TO THEIR HARD CORE FANS FOR THE LOING PRESIDENT, LOSING TO THE PRESIDENT-ELECT. IN ANOTHER STATE, THEY DIDN'T HAVE LITIGATION -- MAY SOUND LIKE WE'RE GETTING INTO THE DETAILS. THESE DETAILS ARE A DIFFERENCE IN WHETHER YOU'RE DEAD TO RIGHTS OR HAVE THE DEFENDANT OR NOT. EXPOSE THE NATURE OF THE FRAUD AND HOW BECAUSE THEY HAD BEEN ASSURING -- THE TRUMP FOCUS HAD BEEN ASSURES THEIR FANS, HEY, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO DO THIS IF THIS PEPPEDING LITIGATION WORKS OUT. IN SOME STATES THEY DIDN'T HAVE LITIGATION SO THEY GINNED UP A FAKE CASE, FILING A SUIT IN NEW MEXICO SIX MINUTES BEFORE THE NOON DEADLINE FOR THE ELECTORS' VOTES SO THERE WOULD BE PENDING LITIGATION AT THE TIME THE FRAUDULENT ELECTORS VOTED. IN REALITY, THE TRUMP TEAM, TEAM COUP KNEW THEY ALREADY LOST MOST CASES. KNEW THE FAKE CASE WAS DESIGNED AS A PRETEXT. THE REAL PLAN WAS TO PUSH THE FRAUDULENT ELECTORS NO MATTER WHAT, WHICH THEY DID, ALL THE WAY THROUGH JANUARY 6th. THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE SHOWN YOU BEFORE COURTESY OF THE JANUARY 6th COMMITTEE'S EVIDENCE, WHERE THEY HAD A SENATE AIDE TRYING TO GET A SENATOR, JOHNSON, TO HAND ELECTOR FRAUD TO PENCE. THAT WAS AS OF 12:30 P.M. YOU SEE ON THE LEFT, JUST MINUTES BEFORE PENCE WALKED IN. THAT'S HOW LONG RUNNING THIS WENT, ALL THE WAY UP TO THEN. YOU SEE THE RESPONSE, DO NOT GIVE THAT TO HIM. PENCE AIDES WERE FORMING A PHALANX TO PROTECT HIM. SMITH KNEW THIS WAS WILD. THE INDICTMENT CHOSE ONE UNINDICTED COCONSPIRATOR PLOTTING WITH A LAWYER TO DESCRIBES THIS PLOT I'M TELLING YOU ABOUT AS KIND OF WILD, CREATIVE. WE'LL BE SENDING IN FAKE ELECTORAL VOTES TO PENCE SO THAT, QUOTE, SOMEONE IN CONGRESS CAN MAKE AN OBJECTION WHEN THEY START COUNTING VOTES AND THEY, THE TRUMP SUPPORTERS WOULD START ARGUING THAT THE, QUOTE, FAKE VOTES SHOULD BE COUNTED. YEAH, SCARE QUOTES DO A LOT OF WORK THERE. NOW, WHY DOES SMITH INCLUDE THAT? SHOWS THAT EVEN ON THE INSIDE THEY KNEW THIS WAS NOT ABOUT HONESTLY DEBATING THE ELECTORS, IT WAS ABOUT LYING TO CREATE A FAKE DEBATE SO PENCE OR SOMEONE MIGHT EXPLOIT IT. WHICH HE REFUSED TO DO. AND WHY THE HE REFUSE TO DO THAT? IT'S NOT BECAUSE HE OPPOSES DONALD TRUMP. YOU'VE SEEN HIM CAMPAIGN LATELY. HE'S SOFT AND SUPPORTIVE OF TRUMP DESPITE TRUMP FANS TARGETING TO MURDER HIM. WHY DID MIKE PENCE DRAW THE LINE HERE AND NOT IN SO MANY OTHER PLACES? I CAN GIVE YOU THE ANSWER TONIGHT IN A WAY I COULDN'T HAVE YESTERDAY MORNING OR ANY OTHER POINT IN TIME. I CAN GIVE YOU THE ANSWER WITH A LEGAL CERTITUDE. MIKE PENCE SAID NO THEN AT THE END OF THE LINE TO JOINING AN ILLEGAL COUP FOR ONE REASON AND ONE REASON ONLY -- HE HAD HIS LAWYERS, HE LOOKED AROUND, AND HE DETERMINED HE DID NOT WANT TO BE TODAY
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Channel: MSNBC
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Length: 12min 38sec (758 seconds)
Published: Thu Aug 03 2023
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