Trump's election denialism is a 'dagger at the heart of American democracy'

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THEM TRYING IT AGAIN THIS NOVEMBER. AFTER ALL AS THE SAYING GOES, A FAILED COOP IS JUST PRACTICE. JOINING ME NOW OF CALIFORNIA IS A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE AND THE HOUSE OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE. CONGRESSMAN, WELCOME BACK. >> GREAT TO BE HERE. >> TO THE SUNDAY SHOW. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE A FORMER PRESIDENT AND PRESUMPTIVE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE? AND HIS ALLIES WOULD REFUSE TO COMMIT THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION? >> I REALLY THINK IT IS A DAGGER AT THE HEART OF THE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. AND THIS IS TRULY A CRITICAL MOMENT FOR AMERICANS WHO LOVE THEIR COUNTRY. WE HAVE AN ABSOLUTE LOOK AT WHO WILL STOP AT NOTHING TO TRY TO GET BACK IN THE WHITE HOUSE WITH A LOT OF ENABLERS AMONG THE REPUBLICAN RANKS IN COUNTRY. MANY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY REPRESENT. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY WORRY ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF ANOTHER JANUARY 6-STYLE INSURRECTION ON JANUARY 6, 2025? >> UNFORTUNATELY A NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS AFTER JANUARY 6 CHARACTERIZED IT AS TOURISTS WHO JUST GOT A LITTLE OVEREXCITED. MINIMIZING AND NORMALIZING VIOLENCE. TRUMP HAS NEVER MADE ANY SECRET IN HIS RALLIES AND STATEMENT THAT THERE IS A SUB TEXT OF VIOLENCE THAT IS PERMISSIBLE, AT LEAST UNDER HIS BANNER. SO THAT IS A PART OF THE DANGERS THAT WE FACE THAT HE IS CLEARLY SETTING THE GROUND FOR MORE VIOLENCE AND HE GETS TO DECIDE WHEN, WHERE, WHY. >> HE DOESN'T EXPECT TRUMP TO ACCEPT THE ELECTION RESULTS IN NOVEMBER. SO WHAT IS CONGRESS DOING TO PREPARE? I KNOW YOU'RE TECHNICALLY IN THE MINORITY AS A DEMOCRAT, BUT WHAT KIND OF DISCUSSIONS ARE MEMBERS HAVING ABOUT THIS IF ANY? >> WE PASSED ONE PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO CLARIFY THE ROLE OF THE CEREMONIAL EVENT AFTER THE ELECTION AND THE ROLE OF VICE PRESIDENT. BUT THAT ALONE IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY STOP PEOPLE FROM CHALLENGING THE RESULTS. WHEN HE SAYS IT HAS TO BE FAIR AND THEY SAY THAT AND OTHERS, WELL WHO GETS TO DECIDE IS FAIR? THEY CHALLENGED ELECTION RESULTS IN OVER 60 FEDERAL COURTS. THEY LOST EVERY SINGLE CHALLENGE. AND I WOULD CALL THAT A STRONG JUDGMENT THAT WAS RENDERED, WHERE THE ELECTION WAS FAIR AND WAS ELECTED PRESIDENT. THEY STILL DON'T ACCEPT IT. SO IT IS A REAL WARNING SIGN THAT NO MATTER WHAT, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS. AND ON THURSDAY, THEY WARNED THE FOREIGN ADVERSARIES WHO ARE INFLUENCING THE NOVEMBER ELECTION. ARE WE, AS A NATION, READY FOR WHAT COULD BE UNLEASHED ON THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE? >> I HOPE SO. I LOOK BACK AT ELECTION OF 2016. THIS WAS CLEAR RUSSIAN INFLUENCE DIRECTLY ON THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND THEY'VE ONLY GOTTEN BETTER AT IT. WE HAVE HAD REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS LIKE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE SAY THAT THEY HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO ARE
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 33,417
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Keywords: The Saturday Show, Jonathan Capeheart, msnbc
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Length: 4min 35sec (275 seconds)
Published: Mon May 13 2024
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