Tonight,
Donald Trump is mining for campaign gold in California
with a fundraiser in Beverly Hills. The former president
turned felon on a West Coast swing right now as he tries
to capitalize on his criminal conviction. Along the way, he's
defending his threat to seek revenge against opponents if voters
send them back to the White House. Listen to what Trump told TV's Dr. Phil. Retribution is going to be through
success. We're going to make it very successful. We have to bring the country together. The word revenge is a very strong word,
but maybe we have revenge through success. Well, revenge does take time. I will say that does. And sometimes revenge can be justified. But I have to be honest. Sometimes it can. All right. Let's talk about this
and more with former Trump White House communications
director Anthony Scaramucci. Anthony, thanks very much for joining us. I know you've written a new book entitled
From Wall Street to the White House and Back The Scaramucci Guide
to Unbreakable Resilience. There you see the cover right there. You heard Trump's
grievance politics amid President Biden's
defense of democracy on the world stage. What do you make of that split screen? Well, you know, the the problem,
if I could be so candid with you, Wolf, is that the president,
President Biden, presents old and President Trump, even though
he's a few years younger than him, presents more energetic and young. And so the campaign the Biden campaign
has to get their arms around that because the Biden messaging is fantastic. The Biden legislative agenda has work. He's done more for working class
people than Donald Trump did 2017 to 2021. But you've got an issue there. And unfortunately, in our society now, these elections are popularity contest
and not hiring decisions. And so they have to come up
with a strategy to expand the net of the Biden
independents. And so, you know, listen, Dr. Phil is a great guy. I don't know what he charged for that
therapy session with Donald Trump, but it was a therapy session
and laced underneath all of that double entendre because Donald Trump
will say two things at once and then his adversaries
will pick up on one thing and the people that are supporting
him will pick up on another. And so he's saying he doesn't want
revenge. Revenge is success. And the other side of his mouth is letting people know, hey,
I can't wait to get this job because I'm going to seek retribution
through the justice system. He's also told friends of mine
that have defended him in court, defense attorneys, that he wants to use
the FBI as the Gestapo. He doesn't know what that means. But he he has said that. And so we have to hold him accountable
for those things. And if we do all of that,
President Biden will win reelection. It's all very scary. The words that he utters,
Trump has a high dollar fund raisers, you know, in Beverly Hills tonight on the heels of his massive
May fundraising haul, it seems he's only raking in more
and more cash after his felony conviction. Explain that. Why is that? Well, I think some of that is his base
responding to his words about the unevenness
of the justice system. But I think there's a secondary
underlying thing there. And I hate to sound so cynical about it, but those people are doing a Venn diagram
analysis of the election and they're buying
a call option on Donald Trump. If he wins,
then they're not on his persecution list. Of course, if Joe Biden wins. Joe Biden doesn't have a persecution list
and the system stays status quo. So this is sort of one of those weird
things, this weird calculation. The money being thrown around for
those billionaires is not a lot of money for them. It's a lot of money
to the average American, but it's sort of a placeholder, if
you will, in the event of a Trump victory. Now, what I would say to those people is be careful
because you may get what you asked for. And this is a guy that could destabilize
our international alliances. This is a guy that can threaten
our democracy. See? This is a guy that 40 of his closest
working associates, including the vice president of the United States,
is telling you openly how dangerous he is. And so it's a real superficial analysis
on their part. But, Wolf, honestly, I have been there, and I did make that superficial analysis. And I made that mistake. And there's always a seams
there, always a rotisserie of people that are willing
to get on the Trump carousel, which starts out lovey dovey
and ends with betrayal and disassociation. You know, Anthony, let's quickly
talk about tick tock for a moment. After trying to ban or sell
the app, as President Trump is now saying,
he would never do that. Listen and watch this. We're going to
make our country greater than ever before. And I appreciate all your support. You and you'll never ban tick tock.
That's for sure. I will never ban. What do you think
is behind this about face? Is this a ploy to win over younger voters? What do you think? Yeah, it's all of that. But what I don't understand
is the free pass he gets, you know, because John Kerry was for the war
before he was against it. Hillary Clinton,
they called her a flip flopper. Donald Trump was negative on Bitcoin
and crypto tweeted about it as president. Now all of a sudden, he's
positive about it. Negative on. On tick tock was going to ban it. Now he's positive about it. I don't understand how he gets a free
pass. And I don't understand how these people
don't realize how transactional he is. And at the spur of the moment,
if it serves his personal interest, forget about the country. It's got to serve his personal interest. He'll flip on a dime. So right now,
the president has good political instincts and he sees those two things
as raising him money and potentially widening the birth
of a younger demographic of voters. But it's completely dishonest. And I don't understand
why he's not being called out on it the way other classical politicians have
been called out on switching their views.
