Total Sailboat Refit (interior, electronics, B&G navigation system) Part 3 - Sailing Ep 201

well it's beautiful windy day here today perfect day for so but we have more important things to tend to and that of course is the third part of our refit this week we've got a bit of this and a bit of this yeah okay this is the icing on the cake the interior and the electrics [Music] when we began to put this miniseries together we thought it was gonna be in three parts but it's not is it no well we didn't realize until after we started recording how monumental this project was so this week we were supposed to be covering off not only the interior in the electrics but also the costs and what we did right and what we did wrong and some advice and so on but we felt that the interior was going to be something that a lot of you going to be interested in and also of course the electrics and the navigation system and they really do warrant their own amount of time as do discussion on the budget and we want to give all the details to in as much detail actually as we have and we want to talk about what went wrong and right I mean and that's in itself a huge discussion yes now in the past we were criticized for skirting costs but don't worry next week's final fourth episode is going to be dedicated to yes those costs so come along with a pencil and paper and make a good note of what it all cost us since the bulk of this episode is going to be about the interior I guess first we should discuss what we were looking for before we started the project yes well basically it had to be completely changed because I see you've already seen it was devastated below so we wanted first of all we wanted to lighten up the interior didn't we yeah Esper is quite dark down below she doesn't have too much light coming in she's not a deck saloon like most oysters so she lacks those big windows so we knew that she had to have a light interior we wanted it to be modern as well so because it was light it meant we weren't going to be putting teak everywhere so it had to be a light color and that more on a more sort of constructive point of view there were things like storage in the cabin first yeah we wanted to really sort out the storage issue it wasn't designed the way we would have liked it it was more for a weekend cruiser not performed livable cruiser and the other thing going back to the interior he wanted to make it look as wide as possible she is quite be me she's four meters so she is quite Vimy so we came up with this idea running the veneer horizontally yeah the other thing we wanted to look at was the rewiring of the boat since we had all the mast down and because we're putting in new navigation gear that meant a whole load of rewiring as well first up we have the nav area or the chart table Esper was built with a huge chart table and she originally had a pullout swing-out seat which wasn't particularly it never worked it was really difficult it's really stiff so we decided to chop that chart table in half and build in a seat this is the exciting bit of chart lately it's now starting to take shape so they've sliced it off here if you remember it came right out here before and opens up that way the idea now is that the table table this way and look I've got to say that was the first major change we made and of course as we saw in last week's episode the other change we made was to get rid of that port light as well so structurally those were the two biggest changes last week you saw us start to build those covers around that area and this was one of the major features of the chart table area was to accommodate all the new navigation equipment and of course all the rewiring as well in those cupboards so that was the first thing that pong worked on was to build up those cupboards under the chart table was quite a bit of space so we had the opportunity to put in about 12 drawers they had tiny little drawers like this and they're so useful but all our bits and pieces in there things that you need quickly like all screwdrivers things like that and Marlinspike skis to everything remotes they're so useful I mean we use that all the time and in fact when we were in town we found some nice chrome handles which we were able to put on as well which finish them off quite nicely once the three doors of the cupboards were complete the Carpenters then worked with the electrician's to start building the fascias for the breaker panel and of course all the display instruments as well you'll see a bit more about this when we deal with the electricians later on the new nav station is also Jamie's work area and I was bit jealous of that so I wanted my own and as we had decided to remodel the front it seemed appropriate to make an area there for me to sit and do whatever I need to do well plus the advantages is that you're far enough away that we I can't see you but I actually have to look at each other so on a small boat just two people you do need some time apart now and again and it works really well so we had to remove quite a few doors in fact we removed in total the door from the saloon into the front compartment the door from that front middle bit into the v-berth another door on the port side into the forward heads in fact a fourth door from the forward into the head it was it was ridiculous and the doors either remained always open always closed and once one door was open you couldn't get into the shower yet to close that up and so on it was a mess yes and we never used that shower it was just full of junk it was full of storage there was also a second heads there and to be honest with two people we really didn't need that second heads in fact what we had been using up until then it four was Millie's loo so she lost her own loo so we ripped all of that out ripped the shower out and we turned the whole area into one nice-sized little station for me my office affectionately known as the Baathists because that's where I boss you around isn't it yes at the Baathists ever since I think they're the most interesting bit of construction work that we did was to put in that curved wall and just it was done so beautifully and it was great to see the Carpenters that work there and the way they scored down the ply in order to create that curve if you saw it on the cockpit boxes or the deck boxes and they did the same thing inside as well just a beautiful finish yes it really is and also although we'd lost that shower area for storage with built shelves so as able to put a lot of things in there behind where I sit on the bench there's a whole load more storage and underneath and so beautiful look at the lighting there's my table that falls out obviously it's missing the upholstery but it's done that poster is finished currently being held in our flats so it doesn't get any dirt on it but we've got some great stripy fabric going on here and yeah with the backside be a little higher these shelves here and plenty of room here for storage we were talking about how to keep everything in and decided that we're just going to have Nets here for when we're sailing it's not get a lot here in here yeah what's underneath my business fabulous water maker which is going to need servicing it was just the right length for our water maker and of course because there's a cushion on top you can simply pull it off and you've got access to literally three sides of that water maker so it means servicing the water maker as well is that much easier and don't forget that beautiful fold-out table that Tom built me so basically it's flat against the wall when we round away and then as soon as we anchor as soon as we're somewhere like this bring it back up and I've got a perfectly fitting little table put my desktop on or whatever it is I need to use the other thing you put in was a false floor as well something to put your feet on when you're sitting at the desk so your your legs are at the right height in relation to your body and your laptop which is on that desk yeah right works really well and not only that allows Millie to have her own perfect little stowaway spot when they're underway Esper has a number of bunks I think originally she was marketed as having eight births or sign was ridiculous like that and and in the cabin there was a little sofa that was actually a third bunk you could take out a little side wall and it became a third but I never understood that very reason I can think of is that it's a young couple with a baby that sleeps there maybe or hot betting I don't know we never used it it just piled up with all your junk exactly well more importantly of course is that it took up vital storage space and that was one of the main things that we did in the cabin was to build up the cupboards specifically on my side on the port side so that I ended up with lovely deep cupboards where I could stow all my crap so you don't have to see it there's still a lot of its stowed on top which annoys me well that was the other thing because we built out those cupboards we got extra storage space on top so now we put lots of things in plastic boxes so when we're underway they're all pretty safe but that extra storage in the cabin was just up until then we just had a rail that you hung your nose on that didn't work now is always falling down in rough weather and it'll get dusty now your clothes are nice and clean in their lockers one of the interesting things that the carpenters had to tend to was the combing around the top of the bed it's actually curved like this so it's at an angle and a note on and Tori did struggle with it to start with they couldn't work out how to cut the veneer to follow that curve so it took their father pong the master carpenter to come in and show them how to do it properly and the finished product is very good one other thing that you'll see in our cabin is a saloon table when it's towed away way back in Turkey we met a couple who had completely done away with their saloon table went into their boat down the steps into the saloon and it was cavernous it seems so huge it was so much space in there and it took us a while to realize that was why all they had was one small fold away coffee table which they brought out when they had guests yes and we felt inspired by this since we were breaking a few minor rules like you know horizontal veneer and and so on we thought well how often do we actually use the table now we did have a huge table fold-out table we could you know seat 10 people round it easily but we rarely used it so we thought let's go with this same idea I think honest per our saloon table is one of the most beautiful examples of pongs work it is just amazing to look at he built it from scratch and one of the interesting things he did was to route out a gap underneath the main saloon table to accommodate a coffee table underneath yes so we have nested tables nested tables the coffee table is propped up by a huge stainless post and that is completely removable and the little gap that's left in the floor we have a plugin cap for and this was all made by our master stainless man young with the galley there was nothing structural to worry about we just had to think about the aesthetics because of course that whole load of Ania we had in there was totally we decided that we would do something very interesting with the wall between the galley and the cabin nice big space there so we chose a bright tomato red glossy veneer the idea of putting a lovely tomato orange on just one end of the wall just seemed like a bit of fun so we were going away from the real traditional okie timber II look inside and going for something much lighter and modern since we were modernizing Esper and turning it into a modern inner-city apartment we thought we'd go for a brushed stainless effect in the galley just again so just a ring the changes why not now with only said there were no structural changes there was one major change we made and that was to the fridge door originally it was had a hinge in the middle and it could open up from either side which sounds practical and paper but in reality it was a pain in the bum yeah particularly when we were under way and I'd be struggling to open one side and then open the other side you can never find the stuff you need it's like one of those old ice cream so no didn't like that at all so we set up on to the task of melding those two halves together to make one piece this involved a lot of fibreglass work of course but once he'd finished the shape we then set pong to the task of cutting our new work surface now this was a kind of very thick laminate is about 10 mil thick and he was cursing us because cutting this stuff was really difficult now we just had one lid that opened right up which was great but the thing was how are we going to keep it up and we all puzzled about this until Oh bless him came up with a beautiful spring that just propped the thing up perfectly yeah what you failed to mention was that that spring came from his own work tool box which was a huge box they had to cut around in a truck that contained all of his carpentry tools and this spring came from his box so that was little poems donations Esper's refit along of course with all the beautiful carpentry that he was involved in on the theme of brightly colored laminates there's our heads and for some reason we've decided to go with a lime-green laminate on one side and a deep purple other it's cerise actually just so you get Surrey styling yeah yeah green and some Ray's right pink opposite but the rest is white and it's lovely and light and bright now I think we did get a couple of comments saying isn't this going to induce seasickness when under way but we've got quite used to it and we love it it's just a bit of a bit of fun while you poo originally we had a slatted teak floor which was removable because there was a well underneath that's where our original shower was it was a bit of a pain walking on this and because we had Milly who would frequently use the toilet of course for poos and wheeze she found it a bit of a problem walking on this so we decided to put an overlay on top of a solid laminate the same laminate that we used in the galley the main thing I wanted to change was the taps because they were pretty old they were original and she was built in 1988 so you imagine what kind of state they were in and not only did I want to change these taps I wanted to change them to one mix a tap and on top of that I wanted to put a shower with in the mix attack run like the ones you see in in a hairdresser so they put it out and then they push it back so we were tasked with trying to find one of those and we did yes but we must emphasize that in Asia of course not many people have hot taps so to find a mixer tap with both a hot and a cold was really quite difficult yeah and we ended up having to import one from Germany what was France was it for us but anyway the main reason really for the mixer tap was not to shower it was so Liz had a bum wash yes because we prefer not to use paper if we can get away with it just like they all do in Southeast Asia and you've got your own little shower right there to use right next to the loop okay enough detail we don't need to know any more water on to the saloon and again like the galley there wasn't too much in the way of structural changes one thing we did do was to allow ourselves access to the chain plates so we built covers for those the main changes of course that we mentioned was the veneer we went prefer this light ash but what we did do was to get rid of all the old trimmed so all the cupboards used to have an extra trim around it which to my mind make made it look a bit oh it was dated yeah yeah so by getting rid of that we had much cleaner surfaces and we also got made little inserts for all the door captures so each and every one of those again was made by young in the stainless shop probably my most favorite thing on the whole of interior refit is the floor we had the original Seoul boards covered in the traditional Holly and ash but they had to go because they were knotted so we looked at options and we decided to go for teak yes it's dark but because the whole of the rest of the interior was really bright we could afford to go for the dark floor mmm well of course also PSS had to own its own timber yard so we were able to a source good to teak from there but we did look at other surfaces including like vinyl flooring we're looking one of those rubber floors or having factories there were lots of options there but we figured we treat ourselves to a nicety floor it was fascinating to watch pong at work here because he had a real eye for lines he laid the teak in long planks across the entire length of the floor so they ran from the saloon all the way through into the forepeak only after had he laid them he then cut them down to the size of each individual sole board this means that the grain runs all the way through the boat and matches every soul board perfect each plank was epoxy down in place and once it was laid to e the younger of the two brothers then sanded away the addition epoxy each soul board was then removed from the boat and individually varnished by our chief furniture mr. dang talking of varnishing we made a decision to use polyurethane in the inside of the boat as opposed to varnish and the main reason for this was because polyurethane is less likely to yellow than traditional varnish dang chief varnish sure was a company by Tung jammed a very quiet lady who I used to call Cat in the Hat because she always wore a stripy cap not that she would ever understand the reference but those two worked together for weeks and in back each soul board and painting it with the polyurethane sanding it back a little bit more and so on I actually lost count of how many layers of varnish we ended up with the varnishing off the rest of the interior throughout the boat was done at the end once everything else had finished and again they took as many bits off the boat as they could to do and where they had to they did it Institute despite removing all of the old veneer inside the boat we were actually stuck with some of the original ash because these were structural and of course there was a slight mismatch between that and the new veneer we were putting up so how best to deal with it this yeah I had to look online to try and get some inspiration I was looking at beachside houses and those kinds of places where they have quite a lot of distressed looking wood and I reckoned that if we sanded it back painted it and did all of that we could come up with something that would match our really like veneer so we ended up mixing up an emulsion of water-based emulsion in fact painted those bits of ash and then sanded the back to give that distressed look and then Dan came in and varnished them after the fact our new companion way steps are a great combination of carpentry and stainless work the idea was that they sat on top of the battery bank so the first thing we had to do was to make the stainless framework after that Paul was then tasked with making the steps now he started with teak that thick because the idea was to eventually put a curve in the teak and the only way he can do that of course was to take back the top bits for the curve and then underneath to follow that curve around it was to me it was it was work of art it was sculpture actually wasn't it it was more than carpentry was an absolute perfect sculpture and I think they are right up there is one of my favorite things on the boat the legs of the frameworks locked down into two pegs that are mounted on top of the battery box and the tops of the steps slot into two slots all of this of course custom-made at PSS with a beautiful modern saloon looking all pristine and lovely we had to get rid of that horrible old vinyl ceiling thought there are narrow strips from without know that from of that vinyl stuff is really difficult to clean especially in situ it's very difficult in yellow yeah it was it was really really awful the easiest thing to do would have been to just replace that final with another type of vinyl but no we didn't want to do it the easy way so we decided to do away with those go for a more streamlined look by widening the ceiling panels and just go for a very simple matte white laminate we painted the backs of the panel's with Joe domestic 87 which you saw on our hull that just gave it a bit of waterproofing if they're any damp were to end up behind the panels and then we velcroed the edges so that we could slot them into place and then the last thing we did was to make sure that there were channels between each panel so we could put the recessed LED lights in them as you've seen the carpentry work inside the boat and the little bit outside as well was a monumental task so Liz costs please yeah well we had between one and three carpenters on the boat at all times throughout the whole project we spent around about eleven and a half thousand pounds on them for their labor and around about five thousand for materials so we're looking at around about sixteen and a half thousand pounds we all go into the full budget properly at the end of this series on to the electrics this is another big project first of all we're just going to look at the basic charging system that was something that just needs to be rewired because over the years it had got more and more complicated so I went to the Y BW forums that's the yachting monthly and practical boat owner forums and there was a user they're called P VB and he had published a simple wiring schematic for the charging system so that was our basis for the charging system there was much rewiring to do aboard Esper but we were able to save quite a bit of the cables inside the boat the big project I think apart from of course the navigation system was the lighting circuit and this is something but I'm rather obsessed about you are obsessed with lighting a lot of time or choose yes in every capacity the lighting so I put together a lighting schematic which zombats our main electrician was able to follow we opted to go with LED strip lights and of course these were recessed into our new ceiling panels the lighting circuits were broken down into four main regions on the boat so the forepeak the saloon the chart table toilet galley area and then the cabin what this meant was that each circuit had a maximum of 10 amps and we actually put each regulators on each of those circuits in a saloon area we opted for three different light circuits so we have the uppers in the ceiling we were able to hide one strip of lights behind the pelmet along the side of the boat and as a special treat we've got mood lighting down on the floor as well it's really posh I mean if we lying on the sofas watching a film it's quite it's like being in a cinema I really like it we just need the usherettes come out with some ice cream but we also put a dimmer switch on the LEDs as well since LED strip lights come in all sorts of colors we were able to install separate and red LED lights both above the chart table and in the galley for night passages really useful except when they wired them they wired them round the wrong way to the switches in the galley so we now know where they are but you need them when you're night sailing we've got two spotlights in a saloon for reading we've got some nice little side lights in the cabin as well sort of reading lights and we're able to source light switches from a camping RV store back over to the chart table we extended our breaker panel and in fact what we did was we used our old breaker panel but because we had all these new circuits we managed to salvage a breaker panel from another boat in pß that had been thrown away this was quite a big cost savings because breaker panels are not too cheap the carpenters worked alongside the electrician's to build those new fascias on the chart tape and cupboard doors and in fact tom and tory are carpenters and son back the electrician are actually really good friends so there was a lot of banter going on when these guys were working together there was one other problem I'm not sure if you're aware of this when you were away but zombats assistant whose name escapes me right now if you remember his name anyway he needed to get some caving in the galley and in order to get to it he'd ripped out all the new veneer but to Ian pretty I couldn't believe it so what do you do just laugh as they all did with embarrassment and he put it in and then pour onto you had to redo all this in work idiot zombats work is as beautiful as the carpentry work I mean that the wiring behind those cupboard doors in the chart table is a thing of beauty at this point in time we hadn't changed our sound system perhaps the most important electrical item on the boat after the debt sounder depth sound the first sound system second but we had these cockpit speakers and the backs of the cockpit speakers protrude into both the heads and the galley so we got some little frames made to go over the back of these cockpit speakers and we used this beautifully hand-stitch cloth that wood picked up in India I knew he would come in handy at some stage where we had these little panels they're about the right size yeah hand-stitched in Gujarat we met the woman who did it beautiful they're still there and they're doing really well yeah and they just serve as a nice piece of artwork to cover up the electrics behind it it was time to renew our navigation system some of the displays were starting to go the hydraulic ram on the steering was no longer working but we decided to stick with bng because it's what we knew and also the new displays now are so bright and colorful you just found them good for your poor eyesight yeah they're really good they are great in fact I went over to the Southampton Boat Show and talked to B and G when we were there and looked at the other displays and it for us they were the best and I was really lucky while we were there to do a deal yes the deal basically was that we were going to be covering this off in our blog of course at the time neither bng nor us knew they were going to be featured in the video but that was worth mentioning that we got a little deal but we should make the point that the equipment that we got was the end of the line of their old series which has since been replaced but it's the Zeus system the first generation Zeus system and we have Triton displays in the cockpit and those the nice bright displays that you can see from standing at the helm so basically you ripped out the whole of the old system just to get this clear we didn't keep anything from the old days it was all new it was all new the biggest problem throughout the whole reinstallation of our brand new state of the art being G navigation system was getting it to Thailand mass amount of taxes put on anything you bring into the country and electronics are right top of the list they love them so in order to get around having to pay huge amount of money to tie government for bringing in our own equipment to put in our own boat and then sail away we were able to set up a bonded warehouse that pß secured for us basically they say everything that comes in will count and we'll make sure that it all goes out again this has to go through customs they have to get involved like and each year very friendly with a local customs man and when everything finally arrived which is another story he came down and went through everything he wanted to see absolutely everything in the boxes and typically you weren't there so I had to open the boxes in front of him we got him we got about halfway through no not even halfway through half an hour into it by which time he had no idea what he was looking at and he gave up me just ticked everything we slipped through a little and everything was cool so we had to do the same thing on the way out the idea was that he was supposed to come back and make sure that all the things he'd seen were on the boat and we're leaving Thailand which he sort of did he just again just signed it but getting everything from bng to Thailand was a mammoth headache for me I almost would have preferred not to have cards the discount just to get it there but anyway that's another story which I won't go into in terms of the equipment that we have installed we have a Zeus 12 inch touchscreen MFD multifunction display that sits down at the chart table we then have a second chart plotter at the cockpit binnacle and that's a Zeus 7-inch that isn't touchscreen and a little bit of advice there touch screens even ones designed for the marine environment can be a bit troublesome in wet weather so we opted to go for a plotter that had push buttons in the cockpit itself the 12 inch touchscreen acts as the master and the 7-inch acts as the slave we have the two triton displays which sit behind us in the cockpit box we have the wind instrument at the top of the mast of course and DST through how fitting that's depth speed and temperature the other thing we opted for was being G's 4G radar two reasons for this what three in fact the first is that it's much more efficient in terms of power usage second reason was that our previous radar had crapped out after getting struck by lightning in India and the third reason of course is that we can overlay that 4G radar data onto our chart plotters like most modern navigation systems this runs via ethernet so it has a backbone that runs throughout the boat and we also installed a gofree modem which allows us wireless access to the NEMA 2k data although we didn't install it in the refit we do now have a Vespa 6000 AIS which were also able to overlay on the chart plotter along with the 4G radar data and we installed a new autopilot with a new hydraulic ram all of this has made an incredible difference when you're at the helm in fact it's like being on a completely different boat up until this time with no radar and with no auto helm we were doing everything by hand and all of a sudden when we left didn't have to do anything to kind of set it you could see everything was all there in the cockpit it's amazing electrics electronics big project as we said we got a good deal from PNG but we also made a very big saving with zombats the electrician yeah he very kindly agreed to do the job in his off time because he was working on a really big boat and he would just come along and do the bits that he could for us when he could so he brought the price down a bit and he said he would do the entire job everything that we've just talked about 4,000 pounds but he would do it in his own time when he could we were very happy with that we knew we were going to be there for ages so it's a thousand to some bat and I think what yeah 9,000 pounds to be in G that's with a very good discount for everything that we got plus all the extra cabling and other things as well so about ten thousand pounds for all of that that I think bargain of the century yes Esper is now looking new with beautiful topsides a shiny new deck masts and an interior to die for there's just one last thing we've got to do put it all back together yep so this was quite a long process it was just tom one of the carpenters and myself who did this I've actually lost count of how many deck fittings Esper has but every single one that went through the deck had to be done up in the ceiling inside the boat had to be cut down because of course we had removed the deck and that meant the depth had changed so that in itself took a long time cutting each bolt to the right size pretty much most holes were refilled we've chopped up fiberglass and epoxy every hole was then read reeled countersunk and then from most of the deck fittings we used beautiful tape you know we spent quite a bit of time talking about this in the original refit series it's really really easy stuff to work with very cheap it's fairly non adhesive so it does mean that if you need to take out deck fittings again it's very easy to do that yeah so if you're interested in fitting your deck fittings with butyl tape go back to the original series because we did I think literally a whole episode on laying down our tracks if I can find it I'll put it in the description yeah talking of butyl we used a product called Arbor mast I think it's made in the UK this is a butyl based sealant which you get in the tube so you use a gun and we use that on all the port lights didn't require any kind of adhesion it was just the sealant that was required so I can recommend that if you can get hold of it since we're talking about deck fittings there is one deck fitting that's definitely worth to mention and those are our beautiful fairly stainless steel stunning really nice yeah made from scratch by mr. young are stainless guy at PSS we've given you a few costs in this video but what we need to do is a whole budget for the whole project and there isn't enough time to do that properly to do it justice right now so the next video will include the entire budget and we'll cover everything including things outside the project so we had to pay for living it costs cost of living is earn daily expenses we hired scooters to get us backwards and forwards we went home back to the UK there was flights there's a whole load of other things that go around the budget that you have to think about if you're going to do something like this yep so we'll cover that off and then we'll also cover off what worked and what didn't yeah that's quite a big one yeah what's happening right now and what we've done since since then and we'll answer some questions I think as well weren't we we've had quite a lot of questions from people on FTP mates and you can paint and from patreon and here we'll get through as many as we can if you've got a question put it in the comments if we have time if we're able to we'll try and answer it on camera so yeah big wrap up in the next video exciting good all right in the meantime peace and Fairwinds was at one end we put we then tossed teak floor because teak floor because this was that you could pull out rather like the ones you see what

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Published: Sun Jun 14 2020