TK Kirkland on Lil Baby, Jay Z, OJ, Nas, Katt, AJ Johnson, Nicki Minaj, R Kelly (Full Interview)

all right here we go tk kirkland welcome back to vlad tv glad tv yes sir vlad out here changing the world as we know it yes sir this is how we're doing it man one of my favorite regular guests man back on here one one more time yes sir one more time i love it and um i'm glad to be as always yes sir yes sir well we really can't get started until we talk about aj johnson yes who recently passed who you know yes i remember we did a previous interview we just did a flashback on it where you talked about how you got to start heckling other comedians yes that's how he actually got his start right and from there he was so good that like i said people would come to the show to see him heckle people on the stage and that propelled him into doing stand-up comedy and what i've seen from the aj johnsons to the michael williams to all celebrities in this game and what i want to share with the world is no matter if you get that 15 minutes of fame um ladies and gentlemen the goal in life is to remember you're a man and you're a woman and what that means is don't let fame take you out the lane of being responsible being accountable for your life because it's all make-believe it doesn't exist all this new thinking people love you you thinking that you just you so popular you got pride you don't want to work a regular job at the end of the day you are a man and a woman you got to handle your responsibility and then we go deeper men who moving with women because you lied to her and told her she's you saw her to dream that she was going to be successful but you ain't paying no bills around you on lost homes and she on lost cars because she believed in you come on fellas i've been talking about aj haven't talked about life insurance i've been talking about very insurance for years today i'm talking to you about being a man step your game up and work and take care of yourself and then when we talk about the insurance listen for years i'm glad i tell you this i've been telling you guys about life insurance i'm gonna make it easy for y'all if you can't get life insurance get burial insurance do not put your loved one in a position to go for to do go funding to ask for a handout and the person who even asked for a handout that person should even be embarrassed asking to help as well because um it goes to show you well it goes to tell you this your bad planning should not be my emergency remember we did that years ago your bad plan it should not be my but i'm in a good mood today and to people all over the world what you don't know is that there's grants when you die in your city that you can reach out to these these this information i'm about to give you and get people to state to pay for your burial and your life insurance and i had my team barry still put this together and basically what it is it says um there's really no reason why anyone's just struggling right now cities have food rent and energy and surplus of jobs many programs are over the over the country in every state or for free trade certifications and everything i will attach um all this information so this is what you have kovic 19 funeral assistance fema.gov they pay for your stuff health for the entertainment community code coverig 19 emergency relief actors fund they pay for funeral and burial assistance okay in the la county as la county has a really um a relief support here is the link la lakovic 19 relief fund is lakovicfun.org they will pay for your stuff for free come on people i've been telling you about from the ppp loans sva loans there are opportunities out here for everybody to get things done that you don't have to put yourself in an embarrassing situation you just gotta do your research well yeah i mean when aj died his wife started to go fund me yes and then i remember she did a video complaining yes that the gofundme wasn't being supported yes after she did she did that we actually saw the gofundme jump up i think i said like 40 000 now yeah the goal was 20 000. okay you know uh little rel he he donated like four thousand right that was nice to him very nice right and other people donated as well but yeah i mean it was a little sad to see one of our heroes that we love to see on the screen from iselle to yeah you know on friday to the players club and i got the hookup uh his family having to go forward and ask for donations in order to bury him yes and what people need to understand you're going to die i'm tired of denial this denial [ __ ] you're going to [ __ ] die and i dealt with death at a young age ladies and gentlemen and this is what i came up with thinkology every time i want you to remember this every time after this interview every time somebody dies you're supposed to get your act in order it's a reminder to let you know one day this is going to be you and do you have your house in order and what i mean by have your house in order you have your life insurance your barrier insurance do you have a will do you have a state do you have all these things together because nobody cares ladies and gentlemen when you drive through la and different parts of the country people on the street on the highway in this is not a game and all you have to do is just dig deep down and and put your pride to the side go get a job you can if you're in love with a woman y'all work it out together or stay by yourself so you don't lose everything in a divorce or a girlfriend but i just want y'all to win i just and and this is gonna be my last thing saying on this aj i've always loved you as a brother um to the family friends i hope that um you guys got what you wanted but to the future deaths in this world there are programs just research it that will pay for your burial and funeral expenses well yeah i mean when you talk about life planning and being put in uncomfortable situations i just interviewed dj yellow yes which is close to your whole situation and so forth and until i read his book and we sat down and did the interview i didn't realize that after nwa folded he became homeless yeah you became homeless yeah and i guess you were sleeping on your sister's couch yeah at one point and then you had to sleep on someone else's cat well first it was someone else's couch it was my future wife but i didn't know it was my wife she had a house it was vacant the house was she lived in texas with my son and it was vacant but some she had renters the crazy part is the renters moved out without even telling her they just was gone and then she let me stay there i stayed here about a year and then with my sister for the rest of the two years and a couch that just when you had everything almost everything and yeah nothing but you know something i wasn't stressed out i wasn't in in the dumps mad i'm just it's all me i can't blame it on nobody it's just me and that that shocked me as well yeah you know see see like i tell my children you know you got to have it's something that my kids will tell you that hustling got to be in your dna see it's not something that you can teach hustlers in your dna are you a grinder do you go out and get it uh or do you sit back and feel entitled that somebody's gonna do something for you you have to keep that drive in you like i told you i'm 100 years old you wouldn't think it cause i i get up i go to bed at nine i'm up at two o'clock in the morning vlad yeah me too you know usually three yeah i'm on i'm doing the stock market i got the candles downstairs i'm smoking the cigar i'm stuck i'm thinking about my day and i don't normally talk to people from five to twelve from father twelve i tell people just to get them off my back because i don't really because people really have not negative information but dumb [ __ ] to be talking about between five and twelve so i said from father troy that's for the lord you know see when you get older you start saying [ __ ] about god because you want to mention the lord's name as much as possible just in case there's a point system when you get to heaven no cause everything is about the point sister right you go to walgreens and you purchase stuff you know what they say hey are you um are you registered here yes oh my god you have one million seven points and you say well how much is that cause you think it's a lot 11.97 and you're like yo give me all that because before i used to like put it away to save it for a rainy day but the numbers sound like it's amazing just like southwest i fly southwest all the time yeah and southwest you can have 800 900 000 points right that's 300 dollars right right or or you could use the american express card like i use yeah and every dollar you spend is a point for any airline yes and i use american express and american express is good when you go on amazon prime and then you see 975 000 points that you can use to purchase something so you bought four candles you got nine points left there you go there you go we're talking about dj yellow at one point he was in such bad shape right that he called dr dre [Music] and dre said hey man why don't you why don't you come down in the studio let's let's hang out and he said okay um i just have to borrow a car and at that point in his life he had owned over 50 brand new cars wow and here he was you know his former group mate the billionaire dr dre saying hey come on over let's hang out and he's he's telling this man i got to borrow a car and when he went to go meet with dre dre wrote him a check to buy a new car he said he said what what will it take to fix you he goes well right now a car he goes okay and he bought himself like a nissan cube you know nothing nothing extravagant or whatever else with a stick shift you know right but he was able to get around at that point awesome but it just shows you know this guy had owned 50 cars he had owned multiple homes he'd owned boats jewelry rolex watches he was paying for his family and here he was as a middle-aged man yes having to ask his his former groupmate you know and what people don't know what they say them tables shall turn and and i think we had this conversation before about michael jackson when when michael jackson went broke and i told everybody that michael jackson broke because he stopped working because see what people do and i teach this to my children again when you spend you got to replace if you can't replace it don't spend it you can't keep spinning and think and don't put nothing back oh yeah because you're going to be on e yeah right yeah michael never downgraded his lifestyle after he stopped putting out albums he's never still living laughing still was living lavish and that's why he ended up broke ended up broke i mean now the state is is very yes yeah they're doing better at the time yeah i mean yeah and you did the research on it you sent it to me saying tk was telling the truth yeah yeah he wasn't working he ended up in some problems right ladies and gentlemen you got to work people nobody old like or or just downgrade your lifestyle downgrade your life take a look at what you got ration it out over the next 10 20 years and it could potentially work for you if you have enough and then you don't have to work but if you think you're still balling although i get i'm just confused like i don't get it sir like i don't get it and a a gentleman told me years ago and the gentleman named david kliman he said no matter how big your home is the mattress is still going to be the same size no matter how people go ahead and spend all this money like people care and nobody cares at all i believe the richer you get the more you stay low-key oh this is true the richer you get the more you stay low-key because the goal is to have that money as long as you can well i should say uh it's not how well you live is how well you die died [Music] there you go there you go well we're nearing the end of the r kelly trial i believe that the the defense had their closing arguments [Music] didn't seem like a very strong set of closing arguments they had like a cop that was around him that claimed he never saw nothing right you know that only goes so far there was dozens of witnesses for the prosecution there's even a man who said he was sexually assaulted read that sheesh there's another guy that took the stand that wanted to play his demo in court so r kelly might hear it and discover him even though he's going to prison right possibly and he said he still worked he said he still will work with r kelly yeah if the opportunity i said what the [ __ ] is going on number one do you think that he'll be found guilty oh absolutely and [Music] from bill cosby to r kelly to people who don't understand crime see you live in such a world that you don't think that you're guilty that you really believe the hype but you really know that you're guilty the goal that bill cosby did even though he got out he got out a lot sooner if he took the plea deal yeah he'd been out because i guarantee he probably wouldn't did no time they probably just reversed as a sex offender and he living on the street right our kelly knew his situation and i love y'all kelly you toured with him put a lot of money in my pocket in the 90s and i'll never throw you on the bus i'm just here talking facts as a friend i'd have told him don't go to trial take the plea deal take the deal i mean did our kelly have a plea deal um no they always give you a deal not always no they always give you a deal yeah but sometimes that deal is like 40 crazy yeah this should have never went to trial this is embarrassment herpes the doctor come and the the doctor say yeah he hit her versus 2006 and he net and then you ain't paid your doctor the doctor who understands i'm like yeah he has hurt to the to the point that they call so much that i know the number to the um pharmacy that they want it by heart you don't go to trial on something like that then boys is coming out the the stuff with the boys coming out i don't i've never heard any gay anything about r kelly no i just never i just have it but not to say it's true or not true and listen this man can live how he wants to live i've just never heard anything about women right and archaic right right right now and whether it's men or boy let me explain something to you and we're not throwing nobody in the bus but my point is you don't go to trial when you got that much heat on you you supposed to take the deal stay low-key do the time and go why rehash all those memories especially when they did the um the thing on vh1 about his life that got him locked up yeah no it wasn't vh1 it was uh it was surviving r kelly survivor not kelly which was on some other network but yeah i know exactly i mean the that really buried him he was actually living his life he won his first trial he got him knocked out yeah i mean and here's the other thing about criminals in america no one never wants to leave like if you know they're coming for you was to go to a country that has no extradition but people are afraid to leave well not to say he's a criminal right i'm not going to say that right but for example you look at russell simmons yes russell got the [ __ ] he got out of here [ __ ] out of here i talked to russell yes you know i mean you know he is way out of the country just gone he sold his homes yep he sold all his paintings he had basquiats yes i remember going to his house there was a basquiat war hall wow you know what i'm saying yes biggest painting i've ever seen and wherever he is he's living like a king because i'm quite sure it's not that expensive he is chilling yes i'm not going to say what he's doing with his money right he's doing some interesting things with the the hundreds of millions that he has uh but he is living uh in a on an island i don't believe there's an extradition policy right and a documentary came out about him on hbo max okay where that girl accused him of whatever right you know and so forth he saw coming he said okay i'm out right that's what you call smart yes that's because god knows i would be anywhere in the world but a prison cell yes absolutely and what i talk about in my standup i explained to the world that um even they arrest bill cosby for what he did years ago the world changed over the last 30 years the mindset how they moved because back in his day in studio 54 they was doing the cocaine they were doing spanish fly that was their thing yeah but the world changed the way they think the way they move even the women that was in that situation then think about it now and say oh i got taken advantage of but any time i feel you come back more than one time something's not right yeah that's just me and it's not to say you ladies are lying i'm gonna make sure i'm clear yeah i'm just giving my perspective on that angle right and he's got new a new case now i saw that he's got a new case he canceled his uh comedy tour yes which he never should have done in the first place right you know yeah and this but this is this won't get them put in jail this is a civil matter oh is it yeah this is a civil matter it's not it's not about going to jail it's about money oh you're right it's a lawsuit it's a lawsuit it's a lawsuit it's a lawsuit which means that there's no jail time right no jail time people just trying to get some more dollars out right that's a shame man god bless uh that's like my move the way i move by myself yeah women scare me they should man women are scary they scare me he'll have no fury like a man they scare me i'll smile with you but [ __ ] i'm nervous [Laughter] nicki minaj's husband wow the woman who he allegedly raped just did an interview [Music] recently did you see that yes i saw that and uh he's actually facing serious charges for not registering as a sex offender so that's the reason why that came up with her because me and my son again was discussing this right and what i want to say is if he went to jail for that already why is because he the reason why he's trying to put him in jail because he didn't register as a sex offender yes that's a serious charge serious charge wow you're a sex offender for the rest of your life wherever you go the community has to know that you're there in order to protect their children okay you know i mean yes no family wants to live next to a sex offender i agree and if they do and there's no other choice they should at least know about it so they could be extra careful with their children yeah like you got to live with you you know you're a sex offender you're a sex offender the best thing in life when you do something wrong and something i faced years ago i face it head on i know i did it i'm not gonna lie about it it is what it is right and i'm gonna live my life it's not like he just found out he was a sex offender right he's been known right so when he moved listen he had the ultimate come up for you to to get nicki minaj pregnant and marry her coming from where you come from with no career to speak of that i've heard of yes this was not like a successful man this was not someone who had a a business and him and nikki were equals of any you know financially or whatever this is someone that used to date nikki back in the day and he's offering her some emotional stability and caring and and so forth that she she needs from a partner she got pregnant they got married you're you got the ultimate come up that's the ultimate come up you're married to this woman who's considered the greatest rapper of all time she's probably worth over 100 million dollars do what you need to do and register where you need to register because he might be going back to prison yep because they're not playing with that no no not playing with that nor should they and i see it in the news every day see and the more stays in the news the more that you get um heat on it now my opinion nikki should have never gotten involved and talking to the young lady like i believe you're my husband you handle that yeah i gotta stay back i was around when that happened and let me tell you man i saw some of that interview and it was like a brutal story it was like she got snatched up on her way to school yes gun to her back yeah raped in a building right and so forth like it was it was pretty serious yes uh yeah so so i don't know what's gonna happen he may end up going back to prison for a while yeah uh i can't imagine going back for a severely long time right because it's not like this is uh he was caught doing it again he just forgot to register so you see and when you when you are popular they always make an example always right because the feds cloud chase just like everyone else sure do no one wants to you know there's no points for getting chester the molester off the streets but nicki minaj's husband oh now that looks big and and they always and to the people who want to do crime when you say are they throwing us under the bus or they shouldn't give you that much time let me explain to how crime works to the people listening they lock you up so the friends that you have or the people who are reading don't go to jail they trying to discourage you and coming to jail that's why they give out the time that that when um the vice president ran for president i mean what's the name the vice president kamala harris kamal harris yeah i voted for her and i talked about it on stage so people were saying tk that that [ __ ] put a lot of people in jail in california yeah i said they got caught they're cut right the [ __ ] you don't you think you get caught you get a pass you get she got they got caught what i'm saying to the people once you get caught they're gonna play you yeah and the system ain't fair so don't get in the system because see we could prevent you from going to jail but once you get in there easy to get in hard to get out yeah i mean a lot of people i see this in the comments right on twitter and so forth they're like yo vlad how come all the black gangsters you interview you know end up doing 20 30 years probably white mafia guys got like three four murders and they don't do any jail time you know this is a racist system and i'm like no this is not well number one yes it is a racist system but in this particular case there's a very simple explanation for this the mafia guys i interviewed usually cooperate some of these guys would take the stand six seven ten times in different trials against mafia bosses and so forth this is why they get out doing 12 days in jail for two murders this is why and this and the guy over here you know who does 20 years kept his mouth shut but that's why he did it 20 years yes the system is designed for you to cooperate and get time removed if you want to do this treat code thing and keep your mouth shut and say well i stood tall go ahead and lose a quarter a third of your life in prison and that's what you get for that and what people don't understand vlad when you watch these documentaries about the the um the mobs in new york they all snitched on each other yeah even the one guy who was really known for never snitching uh carmine the snake persico yes one of the one of the you know mafia bosses recently came out that he was informed yes and years later and that's the myth in the community oh you got to be a stand-up guy everybody there's no honor amongst thieves yes and here's the thing if you got a co-defendant and they separate you and they put your boy in one room and you're gonna room i want you to say the detective first come to my room first because once they go in the other room and they offer the other person to deal first whoever get the deal first is the way now don't get me wrong i'm um as a street and um educated guy i wouldn't tell anybody to snitch from but where i sit now i wouldn't put myself in a position to go to prison that i would have to snitch on someone or someone to snitch on me because we we live in what we call a hypocritical world they'll say that you're snitched but if you caught a case you'll be the first person to snitch and walk out yeah and a lot of times man this whole no snitching code is really designed for the bosses to stay out of prison they tell all the guys underneath them don't snitch do jail time don't snitch do jail time you know and then when the bosses get caught they'll tell on everybody yep a lot of the time not every time but a lot of the time and and and let's just say you don't snitch right let's just say you hold firm these guys that i've interviewed that have done 20 25 30 years they come out and the story is always the same there's nothing waiting for them nothing all the money they put in other people's names have been spent by that time the properties they put in other people's names are going to stay in those other people's names and you're not getting those back and there's no and then there's nothing you could do about something you could do about it you have to start your life over as a 50 year old man with a felony a serious felony you know on their record with a small little skill set yes trying to figure out how to get through life you know with with a strained relationship with the family you don't really know your kids you are not around to raise them right so they're they're going to be upset to a certain degree absolutely you know your woman has probably moved on by that time you're sitting here 40 50 60 years old trying to figure out how to live out the rest of your life and we're saying this to people because when me and vladimir here i i y'all come up to me i'll talk about how me and blab really be dropping knowledge and gain and we would do this until the end of time this is about not going to jail you know i've always been the first to do a lot of things that's what they've known me before right so let me tell you a story um [Music] 1976. is when they started the scare straight program and it was in new jersey and in my school i was one of the people that they took to the scare straight program and it took us to raw way state prison we got off the bus the students we all walked in and i saw some of the toughest guys on the street with scarves on their heads booty shorts it was the most frightening thing i had ever seen in my life and when we were able to leave i was the first one back on that bus and that that that fear to this day still exists and when i see these young kids with the shootings with the robberies um the domestic violence the just beating people up and everybody's tough until they call your number in jail they take you they give you your outfit they give you your your thin mattress they walk you to your cell you don't know what time it is you don't know if it's dark or um sunny out and they shut that damn the cell on your ass and you know what you say damn i wish i could have did it differently let me tell you i interviewed eddie mathis he was a dc drug kingpin yes he said when he went to prison he was seeing young guys in prison getting gang raped by like 30 older dudes at a time yes was rape a thing during those times oh like man it was commonplace man honestly it was it i mean you could walk out your your dormitory and see somebody grabbing somebody two or three guys throwing a coat over their head you know and taking them into a dumb and you have 20 or 30 guys lined up to uh to rape them you know so it was commonplace you know if that does not make you not want to go to prison that that imagery right there and if that's not enough go watch the movie american me that's what got me to never go to prison i'm gonna tell you right now watching that movie in high school you know i didn't have family that was in prison i didn't hear prison stories i had no idea how prison culture works you know i had no idea that men are getting raped right until i watched that movie and i remember watching it saying yeah not for me no thanks you know my my scary movie but it wasn't really scary shawshank redemption that was a good one that i was catching cases during that time so i never wanted to watch it so now when i watch it i i have this relief thing like you know thank god i never really did no time right but when that came out it was it was one of those shows i didn't want to watch no prison movies or anything of that nature and i glad you we don't want the same page we don't see anybody go to jail no no you you think that you're tough let's say you are tough but the conditions in there are horrific yeah and and let me say this because i've had a lot of deep long conversations with guys that have done serious prison time yes on and off camera and the one thing this one guy told me which always stuck with me he said a lot of these so-called tough guys these shooters these gangsters they all do this type of violence from a distance right you're doing a drive-by shooting you're you're shooting up you know a spot whatever else in prison it doesn't work that way if you got a problem with that person you got to get right up on them you're going to have to use a knife or you're going to have to use your hands and 99 of the dudes don't want that type of situation absolutely all these so-called tough guys they get to prison and they and they play they play quiet they turn into a totally different human being they sure do you know they should now some of the dudes are are with that right right but most of most people it's not like shooting a gun at somebody i don't even think about it that way you're so right you're so right because you gotta get right in that person's you gotta feel that person's breath on your face you gotta you gotta physically be able to to take that person down yes and uh you see the and you don't know what they have on them and you don't know what they have or who they're with yes right you know it's a totally different game changes totally different game that you're playing in that in that person once you leave that outside world you're going there yep and there you go uh you know recently i was talking to uh you know to a gay person about this and we were talking about prison culture and they felt that like when you see guys that are always going back to prison there's a reasonable chance that they're actually gay and in the closet and they like that environment i agree of just being around men where it's more acceptable you don't have to really hide who you are you know you're around people who are thinking how you think my guys just got out for 30 years he said we went in that could have never happened that that gay thing they are running the jails now running it what do you expect exactly it's all men it's all men what do you expect he said tk back then when i first went in that was looked upon as taboo now it's the way of the world and one of my friends she works in cleveland she's um attorney and all that and we i did an interview on my podcast and um we talked about getting raped in jail she said no nobody gets raped you see the young boys come in they give it to you now nobody nobody's getting raped so listen some people are getting ready some some people are still getting raped not everyone's with it right but man not everyone's listen to me god bless y'all right that's that's it i'm done with it well right now little nas x has if not the number one out in the country damn near it they're fighting over it i mean he had the whole pregnancy photo photo shoot and everything else like that and let me tell you go back to the vlad tv catalog 10 years plus i've been saying it's like look at my interviews with like fat joe from like seven eight years ago i've said it there is going to be at some point i said there's going to be a mainstream gay out of the closet rapper with hit songs and everyone's going to accept it right right now i was thinking that it was going to be someone who's already established is going to come out the closet i don't think there's going to be a brand new artist that pulls this song but little nazix pulled it off he pulled it off he pulled it off and everyone showed up on his album and his number one album and he's trolling the [ __ ] out of people and he's doing gay performances with naked men on stage and uh you know i i really feel that if he didn't come out the closet his run probably would have ended with otel oldtown road and let me tell you what i think i think essex is not gay what's the guy that group milly finally how they were singing and did somebody else sing the song you think he's fake yeah x is a a a [ __ ] no karate um whoop [ __ ] says ufc fighter and he said you know what let me take advantage some manager said let's take advantage of this gay [ __ ] and go get this money and he doing everything he can in five years from now he's gonna say i tricked all you [ __ ] yo i've been straight the whole time street he got a family somewhere ain't kicking it he kicking it little nazix is not gay y'all little knight zack is playing everybody that would be the greatest troll ever because he has a serious troll yes i remember uh i interviewed uh pastor troy just recently okay right and he went on a little nas x and he was like man [ __ ] this little nazix [ __ ] you know because little knives explore like a hot pink cowboy on the ground he's like man that i guess that's why into the grammys because i ain't gonna dress like this [ __ ] and man just the other day i was at applebee's with my son i seen two dudes feeding mozzarella sticks to each other and my son said [ __ ] this [ __ ] i'm out of here [ __ ] applebee's so what little nazaks do he said he put up uh he put up a tweet and it said pastor troy when he sees dudes eating mozzarella sticks and it's like not on my book not on my [ __ ] i'm not on my watch like he's because when you watch nasa he has no feminine things about him he just talks about being gay he doesn't sing like a woman he might wear the outfits but i still see a man okay yeah hey man listen if you're right this is you are right listen i've been writing on this show ultimate flashback this will be the ultimate flashback i got you guys who raised you i remember uh last time we talked about the kid cuddy thing yes with the dress right and kid cudi was actually on uh you know lebron show on hbo uh the shop i believe right and i believe he was talking about our interview oh is that right because he's talking about the dress okay he's like yeah you know and uh you know you have these grown black men that are doing interviews talking about my dress and you know it's just i can't believe it's so surprising and so forth i'm like pretty sure he's talking because we're you know the most prominent out there they were talking about it you know and you know the the mech gala just happened he wore a dress again along with like eye shadow right and everything but then russell westbrook posted up a picture of him wearing a skirt that one surprised me that one surprised me i'm gonna say this vlad i don't give a [ __ ] vlad listen to me if i could have my way it'd be a different ball game right here i've worked hard to it's an honor to sit in this chair to talk to see a lot of people don't come from where i come from a lot of people don't understand privilege and great opportunities and how things can truly change your life see i i started this game in the 80s i seen the growth of the entertainment industry and the social media world that changed my career right because the last even though i've always made money when i did the breakfast club because of my son because hey i wasn't going to do the breakfast club my son asked me to do the breakfast he said dad you should do breakfast i said i'm not doing no goddamn breakfast i know those they were kids to me charlemagne was kids to me so i wound up doing it before i hit the ground floor you called me listen i left the breakfast club you guys called me before the elevator touched the floor can you come do our show and i was already in new york the rest is history the rest is history and when i was coming i couldn't get on david letterman yeah when i was coming i couldn't get on arsenio hall you understand i couldn't get on johnny carson you are the johnny carsons of social media i'll take that you see see this is how far i go back yeah see you we get millions of views yeah all that stuff together your whole show together is over 40 million probably a month these are numbers of johnny carson if not more yep so when i do this i understand where i'm at and where i came from and i'm blessed so i'm in the i'm i'm on the picture me rolling in my head i'm on the highway with the convertible back with my children because what i found down in life people get caught up in the fame get caught up it's about your family when it's all said and done when if you don't have no money or if you got a lot of money david klingman he passed away he's about one of my partners over 30 years he said tk the thing that you have best for you is that your kids love you and respect you and you have a relationship with your children a lot of men don't have a relationship with their kids it's a damn shame and that's a horrible feeling so to know that out of all the things i got in the world i got that plus i'm living amazingly russell westbrook little nasdaq you all can wear skirts yoko wear cups on your dicks y'all can wear stockings up to your [ __ ] knees this guy don't give a [ __ ] do your thing there you go well this is one of the things you actually want to talk about you texted me about it uh lil dirk was talking about how jewelers are ripping off yes rappers right with fake diamonds and stuff like that and shortly after that little baby talked about how he had a fake 400 000 watch well he got exposed he had posted up his watch and there's this big instagram page called fake watchbuster that basically showed how this limited edition patek philippe that he had was completely fake right it was a four hundred thousand dollar watch and i said when i saw that that's a nice [ __ ] house when i saw it i saw the price yeah i said people spread here's to the young kids in the world let me share to you that's why you listen to your og's and this reason i wanted to bring this up you ready in 1998 i caught a case with puffy combs uh it was a credit card stolen um a female was involved my of some federal agents bought cause my cousin's the federal agents i sent them to the jury store to pick up some items um i never snitched on the female who had put all this together not that i was gonna do any jail time but i never snitched everybody thought it was really about me but here's what happened in the conversation the feds told me in 1998 that they didn't understand why people spend so much money on diamonds because what the jewelry stores don't know they are being investigated for over the last 10 years about over charging fake diamonds and here's the percentage 600 percent 600 percent and again i know i'm talking about my son so much on this my son will say there shouldn't be a diamond in the world that costs that damn much it's insane when i saw the young six nine with the million dollar necklace and that it could spend he was pouring pouring water on it i said what is going on i could see ten thousand i could even say twenty thousand on something that you wanna look good on i believe in looking good i believe in state low key flex occasions but you wanna have a little little bling on you yeah well well let me tell i'm gonna share the story for the first time publicly okay right i kept my mouth shut all these years okay but what was interesting about this particular situation with this watch from rafaello and company is i actually had a bad experience with the same company yes yes and i'll go into details on it right okay and i have people that were involved in this that that could vouch for this particular situation okay so i had i known the guy you know at raphael for a while right you know i've done a little interview with him and so forth so i had actually traded in a rose gold hublot king power watch sounds like it rose gold rose gold you know y'all young kids don't know nothing about that rose gold okay i traded in you know we did a deal where i gave him that watch and he gave me a rolex presidential two uh in yellow gold okay everything look cool everything else like that when i went to go get it appraised and looked at you know for my insurance and so forth we come to find out that one of the links on the back of it was rose gold instead of yellow gold and then we come to find out that the actual you know glass on the watch wasn't even rolex glass so i had to spend a few thousand dollars to get this watch back into its original shape and this is what happens sometimes now for me it was like okay whatever i i didn't make a big deal out of it i texted him about it he never responded obviously you know i didn't make a big deal out of it because i'm like whatever i wanted this watch i got rid of it i spent a few extra thousand but but you know it's not like i was informed that this watch is this frankenstein watch right right right right and it wasn't enough money for me to make a big deal out of years ago that was years ago that means that's their mo i don't know if that's their emo for everybody but but look look what happens right no i'm telling you how many of these watches have you know have these guys sold to people that didn't catch it like me or a little baby little baby wouldn't have caught it if he didn't instagram it right because the the you know the fact that he was that his watch was fake the changes were so subtle yes it was so like it's like the the font was slightly different and the hand was a little bit off but we're talking about 400 000 if he never instagrammed it he'd be sitting there with his 40 watch thinking it's worth half a million isn't that something yeah i was impressed that he had four hundred thousand giveaways he got 4000. i was yeah so so you know when it comes you know shout out to my man uh david bling shout out to my my man will you know these are two jewelers in new york who i've dealt with a very long time it's always been legit and so forth right but just know who you're dealing with and know about their reputation and if you can buy your watches from the dealer try to do that absolutely try to do that it's not always easy easy to do right you know but now why now why well you know for example right you know i have a guy at audemars now because i've had many audemars watches over the years okay i now have a guy over there okay that approached me as a customer and said hey listen i know you probably buy some of our watches you know like i have a i have an audemars uh royal oak offshore okay it's called the brick so it's a big yellow solid gold big ass watch right and he's like you probably have had some of these watches you've had a lot of our watches over the years but you've always gotten them second hand we want to work with you directly awesome but the thing with these audemars watches is that when you go into the audemars store they will literally have nothing in stock you'll walk into this fifth avenue you know 100 000 a month rent store and there will be nothing on the walls at all because these watches are being sold for such a higher markup that anyone if someone walks in and bought like like an auto mars you know open worked face for 70 000 they can go across the street and sell for 170. man so and they know that so they don't sell to customers anymore unless you have a relationship with the actual brand which is why the first thing a little baby said was patek you need to put me on that list right so i can get the real [ __ ] that's what he's talking about right he's talking about the list that i'm on with audemars okay right right get on that list and then you could work directly with the company you could buy for retail and so forth but they but they monitor these watches meaning that if you buy the watch and it shows up for sale somewhere else they'll never work with you again man what a hustle and this is the hustle you know i mean but when you get into the diamond game that opens up a whole new candle which is why i never have diamond custom nothing right all my watches are plain jane if they have diamonds it's factory diamonds right right yeah and if you want to you know for everyone out there who's getting your money up who got a few dollars put aside you want to buy a nice watch you want to buy some jewelry you want to spend the money that you've worked so hard you know i mean you know for yourself to have something nice for yourself buy a watch and keep it exactly the way it is stick to certain brands like rolex automars patek philippe all those watches will maintain their value you could usually sell it for what you bought it for right it's not an investment but it's a place to park your money right and as you start to gain more money you can say well i can keep this you know 30 000 in my bank account and make a dollar a year in interest or i could buy this watch and keep it in good condition and it's almost the same thing as keeping the bank account right and it's a lot cooler than actually just having it in your bank account right i agree and that's how i approach okay i like that i like that yeah i got nothing but nice watches yeah from back in the day and every now and then i'll throw something on but right now it's just damn apple watch there you go there you go some so you know everyone got their thing some people are watching some people in the cars my thing is underwear my thing is underwear that's your thing listen to me okay all right and to the men out here i tell women all the time the next time you can have sex with a man ask look at his underwear if it's loose is the top the tank top supposed to hold your chest together if it's loose around there he's had it on three or four days if his underwear pants is real lucy he got [ __ ] stains in his underwear and ladies when the last time you asked a man right before he got in bed with you let me see the bottom of your socks cause most men's socks is dirty as hell and if you see how dirty socks is you'll never give them no [ __ ] there you go that's funny well i recently interviewed turk my man formerly cash money yeah and this sort of made some you know some fireworks along the way okay he talked about the whole kissing thing right which he's never denied right you know he said yeah you know birdman i've seen it too birdman has kissed him in the you know lips he's seen wayne do it he's seen bg do it right juvenile he didn't really you know like the younger dudes did it but the older dudes kind of right whatever right and what he said was which i remember the breakfast club even talked about this on there he said hey man listen whether you want to admit it or not every man plays gay games with their friends i read that every male every male dog have some type of um gang gay game that what they call it gay gang penitentiary game that they play with they homeboy you know what i'm saying [ __ ] not gonna mention it they're not gonna say it because of social media and they'll try to act like they gangsta whatever whatever you know i'm saying but every [ __ ] might be like damn [ __ ] you sexy today [ __ ] you you know i'm saying [ __ ] be doing [ __ ] like that but it to me it's not no you know what i'm saying when you know your sexual preference bruh it's like you know number one would you agree or disagree with that statement vlad i don't know what's going on [Laughter] i don't know what's going on vlad i've been here a long time to hear some of the things that come out of people's mouths they thought process literally scares the [ __ ] out of me that people really think or say the things that they're saying my answer to it no no don't believe that they also call it the penitentiary games yeah i don't i ain't got that kind of time yeah i started to think i'm like have i ever played gay games with my friends i don't i don't think i have i never did nothing i don't think i have i'm being honest right now and i i would admit it if i did like and i'm trying to figure out what's wrong like what's wrong i don't know what happened yeah i don't think i have blab what happened i mean i'm a lot older than you but what happened something happened i don't know and listen i feel these were kids so honestly i put it on birdman as opposed to them they didn't know listen they're they're on the ride of their lives cash money's blowing up i'm not even talking about the kissing i'm talking about playing the gay games the gay game yeah that's what i'm talking about i think what what baby did was like the mafia they kissed on the cheek baby kissed them in the mouth right see when i was hanging with them no a lot of people in new orleans i had to call my homies and say this what y'all do down here so my other street dudes down there is like no that's that's that [ __ ] baby them do is exactly what he said that's not new orleans yeah that's what babe gonna do um i never questions babies sexuality um never questioned turks and i i've been with them i hung with these brothers for years i just to me i come from new jersey jerry city new jersey up on the hill bit wall myrtle avenue but i grew up in the 60s i grew up the black panthers who they they offers right down the street from my home on myrtle avenue i move and think a different way and i told people one time i said this is why we have to die i'm gonna get deep on you now the reason why a lot of us have to die because the world changes and we can't accept some of the things that we see because there's a transformation there's an evolution i'm not gonna say there's growth i'm gonna say the way the world thinks differently the old ideas have to have to die yes and if our great-great-grandparents saw the stuff that we thought was just easy they will say what the hell does vomiting too let's go with bathing suits for a second for me one what people don't know about bathing suits back in the 60s and their 50s your bathing suit had to be an inch over your knee or they oh you got a ticket on the beach men are women for women women okay and you go to jail this with the um thong down the crack of your ass and your stomach and your ass out if you had this bad thing so imagine get arrested our grandparents if they saw what women were doing today yeah i mean i don't remember thongs being a thing when i was growing up no you couldn't dress like that no a thong was like something you'd wear in a porno or something right like you know i mean this was not something that you were just it was kind of taboo because my mother wouldn't allow her grandchildren or any family member that was a thongs at one time was embarrassing you you said you was getting a thunder girl telling her mom she was getting a thong you had some problems now it's the norm right and you know you have bbl's now you know which is also the norm right no you know brazilian buffalo we're changing it it's turning into i remember seeing something about how you now have something called bbl fashion right where basically fashion companies are now marketing towards women with bbls and and uh when you look at like fat look at fashion nova like who are fashion nova brand ambassadors they're not like natural girls most of the time it's usually girls with a bunch of plastic surgery right and so forth and it's like yeah so and so and they're fashion nova and they're pushing the history of surgery to me what's going to interest me i want to see what the women do when they bodies are old but the bodies are still young if that makes sense like the firm titties the the the the fake butts right when the rest of you gets old and you shrivel up how how does that work out it's going to be something you can usually tell by a woman's neck yeah because there are certain things you can't do with plastic surgery like your neck and your elbows yeah and the elbows look at a woman's neck and an elbow see i could tell people the time say i like women see i come from an era where i like to take a woman's bra off or titties go under armpits right because you don't need the titties anyway so you got your hand on the chest you're having fun now you when you want to [ __ ] until you take the titty from under the office you have fun you lick it and then you throw the titty back under and yeah and then they want to have fun sometime you take both the titties click clack and be like sprinkles birdman was just on uh on the big facts uh podcast okay my man dj scream and they asked about the kissing thing and he goes well he goes i consider wayne my son and he he says something the effect of you know being in the environment we're in i did not know whether that time i would see him would be the last time i ever see him and that's why i would kiss him you know he said i kiss my own son also you know in the lips and so forth um i don't quite get that i never kissed i remember one time i accidentally kissed my dad in the lips like you know it was like he was kissing me in the cheek and i accidentally moved my hand my you know my head and and we accidentally kissed the lips and was like oh both of us were like whoa right right it was weird that's right it was weird right like you know i never kissed my mom in the lips right never i just did it we just see the world that's just different it's just different for me yeah what i keep trying to tell you we we see the world different and [Music] long as it's not hurting our family long as our children are not being influenced by it because like i said everybody live your life i know what i'm doing with my children and i'm happy with my kids i can't tell i can't go into another man's home and explain to him that he's doing x y z well i remember in that same interview with turk i had mentioned that the u.s said that baby was someone who didn't respect money mm-hmm and we went to the story about how he bought like i forgot how many bentleys right there like six six seven six or seven that day and then turks said well baby actually had 50 cars at one point a lot of people might think that those cars that was in a video wasn't for us they wasn't for us it was for baby you know and at one time as i could remember he had 50 cars at one time literally there's not no number i didn't made up in my head you know what i'm saying he had like three houses and every house had at least 10 15 cars there and cars at the cash money office it was all baby cars at the time when he had 50 i probably had two or and i remember i hit you about it right and and you actually had a story about that yeah and the story was when we went to his house when we pulled up you could tell these are brand new cars they had been sitting so long that they were on flats you know how long a car got to sit for the tires to be flat and you don't put air in them and there was no cheap cars it was expensive cars and i was like wow we pulled up and this is wasn't even his main house it was another house that he bought everybody too but when cash money blew up it puts a smile on my face because it was one of the greatest experiences of my life because it got to a point that i used to say to people if i never opened up for you [Music] you didn't get famous because everybody opened up for went on to be successful ludacris nelly the cash money millionaires nwa the host of the hard knock life tour with jay-z um dmx um the deal all of them love t.k kirkland so when i see comedians who claiming that their whatever the top comic i tell people all the time you didn't start in 1985 and most of these kids that's doing coming down with babies don't say nothing to me because i started in 1985 and all i'm saying like baby will say put some respect on my name well speaking of comedy uh kat williams actually spoke about a hypothetical versus right against kevin hart right uh would you ever do a comedy verses i wouldn't do a comedy verses let me tell you why i'm i consider myself really not a comedian i consider myself a businessman comedy is my side hustle but when i do get on that stage i take it very seriously but i take everything seriously i get involved in i i put the work in i do what i'm supposed to do and some comedians don't write all the time they do the same material all the time for decades for decades for decades i've literally seen a comedian i'm not going to say who it is but i remember i saw a comedian in the 90s and i saw an hbo special 20 years later and the jokes were actually the same yeah see i don't do that i work on my act every day but the way i think i literally see material every day so my show is always evolving it's always current events i always say relevant to the business um but that's me but i'm a businessman so if i had to do a verse i i thought cat dealing with kevin hart was an easy layup he didn't really go out because cat kevin is the man right now high profile yeah but he he he don't know he he don't really want to go [ __ ] with the with the heat people like it you know and and cat knows this and i'll talk cat straight up we had a show once together oh really you're saying louis cat williams had a show yeah we had a show again let me tell you how this [ __ ] went down okay let's go when we used it we was at the embarcadero in st louis i was opening at that time i was not the third i was the third preacher on the show cat was the headliner when we got there the promoter came to me and said tk cat want to go on before you and the cat's in the dressing room right next to me i'll say i say what the [ __ ] i need to say you're gonna hear me i said no he's a [ __ ] headliner he gonna close out the [ __ ] show cause i already know what i'm capable doing all the comics know what the [ __ ] tk kirk are capable of doing so now the show starts coming to the thing i go out there i turn this [ __ ] out when cat comes on his axe not doing well he takes his mink coat off throws it into the audience gives about nine people um hundred dollars a piece and walks off the stage and this is a true [ __ ] fact so he gave up he gave up oh okay this is just some real [ __ ] now it's not to say cat is not good it's not to say kevin hart's not good because we live in a world that people take this conversation and twist it all i'm saying is if you know this comedy game they know about t to the [ __ ] k well you know recently we had a fat joe versus ja rule and then that started a lot of talk afterwards and one of the things that came out of it was uh memphis bleak i think did an interview and he was talking about uh he was asked about a jay-z naz battle and he said that nas just doesn't have the hits of a jay-z oh no to really compete and everyone's alright but you know i completely agree with that yeah no i've seen that with my own eyes with that that whole journey from when um jay-z came into the game in 1995 and and i i've some people only maybe one or two people said to me that um nas are still better than jay-z and let's say nas is better than j let's just say nas is better than jay-z but jay-z work ethic was amazing true and so that's what i'm talking about let's forget the songs his work ethic was on a whole another level and i rest my case yeah and listen i could say that i like illimatic mm-hmm better than any jay-z album oh yes representative absolutely i will say that as a body of work as one body of work i can't put any j album over illmatic illmatic unbelievable but in terms of a career with hit songs and and consistent products yes jay got him yes jay god and people think i hate on nas i've called him the worst bee picker of all time like i've said this in the third you know people talk about his new projects i think his new projects are cool i listened to his new project it's cool yeah it's not even cool i was disappointed it was cool nah i was disappointed i ordered that [ __ ] cause i listened to [ __ ] on the plane i was disappointed i was mad in the muffin like nobody's putting out that yeah i mean king's disease two was cool king's disease was cool but it wasn't like uh like jay's last album yeah you know was it 444 like right that jay shippy yeah yeah and then we talk about hits right nas is really you know nas doesn't usually have hit records on his albums you know what i'm saying he's had a few over the years but jay will give you a banger every project time hard knock likes right you know jackie said crazy love like what are you gonna play after crazy love right he got the hits but from beginning to end illmatic hands down totally agree perfect perfect project perfect price a perfect project well uh there was a whole back and forth with puffy and jermaine dupree that would be interesting that would be interesting that would be interesting that would be interesting one of the things that saigon who i just interviewed brought up though was that when you look at the majority of puffy's hits they're usually just samples of big 80s songs that's true not kinda all of them damn near yeah you know been around a long time i'll be missing you this was a sting police song uh you know nothing original no money more problems was i'm coming out by yeah and so forth and you know they're going back and forth and you know puffy's like oh the only person i'll battle with drake is whatever and it's like jermaine was like well i'm in the songwriting hall of fame that's something you'll never be in that's right because because really jermaine is like a real real producer yes and he has original music yes and i know puff said he wanted to go up against um dr dre but dre got original music yes now he got some samples in summer stuff but the majority yeah original now like cat going against kevin hart will it make sense for the hype uh puff feet against dre yes the numbers will be insane it would be insane and um i hope to see them all get to um to do their thing but the the verse i would like to see the most is my man from the lox and my boy that worked with um [Music] jay-z from philadelphia what's his name you know about jadakiss versus beanie siegel benny siegel okay listen to me beanie doesn't really have his voice jay in them didn't they didn't let benny segal get loose but listen i remember i even brought this up when i interviewed beanie sega last night years ago right before he he got locked up at one point jay said that beanie could go down as one of the greats like tupac man benny's good i just felt like he he got his life just sidetracked he got he kept getting in trouble he was going to prison he was doing drugs yes you know when i interviewed him he was really obese okay and drinking you know the lean and everything else like that from what i understand at the time like yeah man like you could be the nicest and you could be the most talented and you will not go down as that if you don't have that work ethic to go along with the work ethic you gotta and no matter what you have in life you still gotta have a little luck on your side i remember um that too yeah you gotta have a little luck you can have all the money in the world you can wear your seatbelt this to me you still gotta have a little luck one of the greatest moments of being a seagull to me we was on 125th street in harlem he had the rolls royce parked outside and i love looking at women i just like i like women i ain't got to [ __ ] with you but i like looking he had the baddest [ __ ] with him when i say she was so and she was in sweat suit she was in a sweatsuit with the hoodie on and this is like the early late 90s early 2000s whoo i still remember like that was yesterday and um that's that's the thing about benny siegel to me those two things he got he never got loose they never let him get loose just like baby never let turk get loose because turk was nice then they never got turk never got to shine and i wish that he'd had his opportunity to shine well i mean he left though right i don't know if he left but no no yeah you know he left that was the whole thing like like by the time like juvenile and all of them started leaving he left also okay and he said that was one of the worst decisions of his life right he should have stayed because his album had dropped he was doing well and you know he was part of the hot boys like that if he had stayed he could have seen the things that i said up there with wayne potentially and that's what i said to myself too even if they went on their own yeah you had your independence but staying with baby you still made a lot more money yeah i mean baby even addressed you know that big facts uh interview i mean he said like everyone who said that he owed the money he overpaid him you know whoever he said owed him a hundred million he paid him 150 like or something like that i mean he said that initially he just didn't know the business himself and so forth and i don't know i mean listen everyone's going to say it the way it is there's two two sides of the coin but baby was i mean if not the greatest definitely one of the greatest in terms of putting on other artists because you know i mean that to me is such a unbelievably difficult skill set to have it's you know you could be a great artist you could be a great rapper right like look at drake probably the greatest rapper of our generation absolutely he's got a run that i have not seen in my lifetime in my lifetime right you know people comparing him to michael jackson now and so forth i don't know if that's a fair comparison but whatever there is a conversation around it people are having it but if you look at ovo they have not made any stars on that label outside of drake right right partynextdoor has done pretty well for himself he's done some good writing and everything else like that but you can't put party next door and drake on a similar platform like you know i mean none of the artists that he's ever signed have ever done all that great you know but you look at like an acon t-pain lady gaga you know birdman wayne juvenile nikki drake tiger like listen blue face like the list goes on and on forever young thug came out of there really like everyone has done it like baby nobody nobody and it's hard but let me tell you as someone like everyone feels that they're music experts but you know vlad tv used to be in universal records at one point and we were part of src records and i was seeing the a and rs really do their job around me right to take an artist and no one has you know that's got 100 plays on soundcloud and say this is going to be the next big thing and a year later it is is like you have to be able to see the future in a way that that that's just unbelievable you know what i mean and and that's just one artist over and over again yeah this is why the clive davises right la reeds the the russell simmons like like these guys are going down in history because they could see the future before it happens right you know it's it's such a hard thing and i'm baby i got respect on your name cash money cash money records did they thing and i'm glad i was there at the beginning shout out to ball of blocking i remember i'm trying to think you know this was in my notes and i'm trying to remember where this was from it was might have been another interview that you did but you talked about how you robbed puffy sugg eddie and charlie murphy right and you said they all had it coming yeah they held camera and let me tell you i tell you about growth and i bring that up in life because um [Music] it's not to tell people i'm a gangster is to tell people how as a youngster i made horrible mistakes in my life and i bring it up to tell people is because um people bring it up and i'm glad even in my 60s that people still mention my name and reveling to this day because the next rally i also be just chilling somewhere and you probably wouldn't even know about a tk kirkland but to still be in great physical shape to still be able to travel the world to still have my name out there i learned let's use the eight mile um philosophy where eminem talked about himself in that last battle to win the rap contest see i believed in that first see i believe i'm going to talk about me before you talk about me to take the power away from you so you don't have to your [ __ ] is liking me because you see a smooth [ __ ] on stage right now you're in the car and you you know your [ __ ] feeling me and you saying oh you know that [ __ ] did this and did that cause well guess what i'ma beat you to the punch yeah about all that type of [ __ ] you know so that's what i do yeah i mean people don't remember this usually but before obama ran for president he wrote a book about himself where he admitted to sniffing cocaine i never knew that he said in college i took as much cocaine as i get my hands on right and that was never mentioned again yeah you see obviously no one was able to pull that out later on because he had already talked about it nobody talked about it oh of course yeah it's in my book right page 38 to 42 there we go and that's how you beat people see we all i tell people all the time it's not that you've done something bad in life it's what you've done after the badness right yeah because one of my closing points when i say maya angelou was a prostitute if she died in her 20s she'd die as a prostitute i never knew that you get a chance google i believe and yeah i believe um malcolm x was a drug dealer that i know they named dirty red yeah yeah and it turned out to be malcolm x yeah the reason why i tell the story about the puffy thing and the suga and the charlie murphy is that even though i was successful at that time i still was doing crazy things as a youngster but i want everybody to look at me now look i'm i'm healthy i'm still alive you're legal i'm legal yeah uh and god dropped all the charges god dropped charges god dropped all the charge i love it we lost michael k williams yes recently did you know him at all i i don't know him well we got pictures guys i didn't want to post it because what um has happened to me lately i know i post a video of me and aj a couple days ago um because i had just posted that um a week ago but i didn't know aj was deceased for two weeks before they found out that he was gone that hurt my feelings right i'm getting to a point now i'm just tired of posting pictures of people who pass just to say i knew that person it like it hurts right yeah and especially when you're dying of um a substance abuse or overdose or um things of that nature and again it goes back to the beginning of a conversation about fame and i don't know fame gets people that want to do drugs or fame gets you to want to do lean and start doing crack or whatever that you do i always say if you wasn't born doing it you got it you you had a choice you made a choice to start doing what you're doing 100 right and i just want people to take that's what we when you get on here our show is not the best nobody i'll show talk about facts and really to put men and women on game because they listen to us not to do drugs not to go to prison get a job try to do the right thing because my philosophy is at least you heard it you can't never say it to me or say to somebody no one never told me what me and you're doing is when they listen to our interviews you heard it so subconsciously now in your mind you know damn you know what vlad tk they did say don't do this and do this and that's what i want people to get out of our interviews that they actually heard when you say you didn't have a father and your dad wasn't around you know and i'm tired of people using that [ __ ] excuse at the end of the day you know right from wrong yeah i mean they found uh heroin i believe in his apartment yeah michael williams yeah yeah that hurt my feelings man and [Music] then i started saying what this was somebody putting something in the drug so everybody was going down well because uh you know recently another comedian named fuquan johnson yes do you know him i didn't know him him i didn't know either but it was like he was like a a little get-together of someone's house three people died yeah there was like four people and three of them died right from fentanyl yeah well listen like the drugs that are out on the street right now between the pills and the cocaine and the hair i wouldn't touch my belly that [ __ ] is not what it used to be right it will kill you it will kill you it will [ __ ] hey what's so crazy about let's talk about the government in the situation phenomenal is legal no it's not oh they passed something with friends now it's not legal yeah okay so didn't biden just pass a law that the charges on fentanyl is not it's not it's not as serious google that uh biden passed the law about fenenol oppose law okay uh here we go here we go biden harris administration provides recommendations to congress on reducing illicit fentanyl-related substances ain't that a [ __ ] that's crazy hold on hold on hold on wait yeah i think i think you're right i think i think there's something about that about reducing the charges isn't that something i think i think you're right and phenomenal is fda approved google that because it's gonna shock you 1998 fentanyl was approved i told you i've been knowing my [ __ ] boy well listen a lot of these things that turn into a list of drugs were right originally created for actual medical absolutely just like you know morphine morphine and sudafed and allegra you know you can't there's two types of allegra there's liquor in the on the shelf and then there's a lego behind yeah yeah yeah and you got to give your id right and that when that first happened to me i said why and they said [ __ ] use this for drugs right i mean listen if you if you have terminal cancer morphine is your best friend right but you don't just want to go hang out in the living room and take morphine you know i mean there's reasons for everything and what's it what about the crazy stuff about sniffing glue remember when that was built oh yeah sniffing glue the [ __ ] is wrong with people right man they put this [ __ ] in their body sir yeah man they put listen to me people push [ __ ] in their body and wonder why they end up the way they end up yeah they don't i told you this [ __ ] don't make sense o.j simpson recently went on social media said that uh he doesn't want to live in l.a because he might be sitting next to his wife's real killer have you ever met oj number one um no never met oj never met oj either i i will tell you something i'm gonna reveal this because it's probably not gonna happen but i've had discussions with oj's people about doing it right a vlad tv interview okay it's a discussion i'm not going to say that we finalized it or whatever else we haven't come to any remote deal at this point but i've i now have a direct line okay to oj simpson and we've had conversations about it unfortunately you know one of their stipulations about doing the interview is they basically want to exclude like the two years of the whole murder story okay essentially which to me would be somewhat pointless right to interview oj not talk about the murder is really not an o.j but you see with him say don't talk about it he will bring it up he might bring it up no ain't no might he wrote a book if i did it this is when i look at oj characteristics of a man is not his best suit so when you have a man of that nature who talks the way he talks don't think about what he says he could say one thing and then get right on air and bring up that whole thing knowing that somebody signed the contract saying we can't talk about that so i have a thing about real men i have a thing about men who are weak i have a i think about men who are sensitive and emotional and that's pretty much why i stated to myself because i don't really [ __ ] with them type of people so for what i do i stay out the way so i don't have to say nothing wrong to you i stay out the way because i know the consequences of my my decisions and my choices and it's normally costly when i was younger i did things and thought about the consequences afterwards i just avoid all that and um [Music] the o.j simpson thing and to anybody does crime and you get away with it the goal is once you be the case is you stay low the [ __ ] kid out the way and i always bring this example up my man um [Music] not colombo he didn't play colombo he played um was it manix no the guy who shot his wife in the in westwood took out the eat and um he took out the eat he shot her he said he left the gun in the car and when he went yeah yeah no yeah i interviewed uh i interviewed his lawyer yeah what's his name hold on a second robert blake robert blake robert blake coldest [ __ ] in the game and let me tell you why robin black i'm not saying he killed or didn't kill her but i'm gonna tell you what he did he got away with it he got away with it and robert blake when he beat his case you never heard nothing from him ever again that's the way you win when you beat a high-profile murder case you're supposed to disappear right you're not supposed to show up at a hotel room with a with a crew and and a gun trying to take back your old stuff even if you're on the right even if you're in the right you supposed to stay the [ __ ] right the way because they you know what he got sentenced for was really a get back for him getting away with absolutely you know with the nicole right because he wasn't supposed to get that much time for that situation no there's people who kill people got less time than o.j godfor for an attempted robbery essentially and again people the most um prize the the most biggest commodity of your life is time yeah can't get it back you know speaking of time i remember you said ppp stands for player player player right last time uh one of the uh one of the guys on love and hip hop atlanta mo fame recently got sentenced to 17 and a half years right for maybe a month's work of spending money yeah it's got to be the dumbest [ __ ] ever if that and you bought this stuff during lockdown we talked about it like where the [ __ ] was you going he was buying a bunch of [ __ ] that he uh that was taken back from him yes and now he needs to do nearly two decades in prison and now and ladies and gentlemen listen to what he said now see mo fame also made a deal with the prosecutor right he took the deal guess what the judge felt this so appalling he gave him and say eight nine ten six more years six and a half more years gave him 6.5 more years right now ladies and gentlemen i need you to listen to me very carefully there's a thing called hustling and being smart there's a thing called being hustling and being stupid that's why people got to use common sense so watch where i'm going with this vlad the government pulled the biggest heist in known to man history of man when they dropped the ppp though the coldest heist ever because out of all the money they gave everybody they came up with a forgiveness program and if you fill the paper out work right you ain't got to pay back a dime if you're legally doing it no that's what i'm saying i'm just talking about i'm not talking illegally the guy mo payne was a fool yeah he could have did this the right way let's say that he lied to get no he did lie but let's say you went out and got the the employees watch where i'm going now he got the employees and fired them later oh that's what he did no i'm saying if peter did that because you know who did that american airlines united airlines all the big companies in this country who got a ppp loan that the government gave you money to keep your employees working and what did they do they fired everybody yeah and kept the money he has been ordered to pay four and a half million dollars after 17 years to you know no he got to do the 17 yeah he's gotta pay that back and he just bought jewelry in cars right with that [ __ ] and here's the thing what people don't send see ladies here we go again when you on probation and you owe that kind of money they monitor you around the clock like it's still going to be like he's in jail yeah to the day he dies listen he is 38 years old he's going to get out if he's lucky at 55. man and that's still young if he takes cancer but listen well listen i'm going to say for everyone who's watching this i'm 48 years old i could clearly say my 40s have been the best time of my life absolutely my 40s these young kids gonna say oh before these your life is already over who cares no no my 40s were better than my 30s we're better than my twenties we're way better than my teens and what did i tell you this show long ago if your life's not getting better as you're getting older something you're doing wrong mo fein is gonna spend his 40s in a dirty prison cell yeah with a bunch of men who are all criminals now you see that's bedtime too right i believe so yeah so at least fed time he got a little break because the food is different they have gyms in there for you and if he has a good lawyer you can really pick the prison you want to go to i mean how's he even paying for this lawyer you probably got a public defender probably because if you got any kind of money imagine stealing four and a half million in getting a public defender imagine that man imagine that you you know you know the store and here's the lick girl girl right you get four and a half million let me tell you something if i got four and a half million off the ppp loan out of nickel and dime that thing for the rest of my life either got a job i had to pay i took a hundred here maybe 500 here and i'd rather know i got it then to have a car sitting outside is going to be deprecia that's going to depreciate have a watch that nobody don't really give a [ __ ] about yep don't know to all the material things ladies and gentlemen nobody cares it's not enough to do prison time over here it knows i like material [ __ ] as much as the next one right i'm not gonna say that i don't i don't but no but it's nice it's never it's never enough it's never enough to go to prison never gonna buy it i will tell you that and listen when i was broke i i presented myself like i was broke right when i got some money i slowly you know i mean like i remember the first time i was able to buy some gucci shoes right like [ __ ] i haven't for years i've been wanting a pair of gucci right right finally got enough money like you know i've been going to foot locker buying in the clearance section all these years struggling you know but i wasn't sitting there going like all right well in order to get these gucci's i gotta do some scams and some some crimes and whatever and they do all that [ __ ] for some gucci shoes the [ __ ] wrong way i got friends in jail now doing 18 years because uh they stole credit cards yeah and going to the stores just to buy belts and pants right and you know how much for 18 000 that's what the what they went to prison for and they got seven years for 18 000 yes think about how much income they lose during each of those seven years man let's just say they're making minimum wage right you're making 20 000 a year that's just one year of not being able to work right where you just lost that 18 000 that you just gained and mentally that has to do something to you to know you in jail for 18 000 like how can you have a conversation with somebody else right because if you have if you love yourself you know anything about life and i'm in here for 18 000 crazy that'll kill me yeah that would take my soul uh connie and drake both dropped albums and they've been beefing with each other in various ways what's your take on that um it's good for the it's good for the um entertainment industry to have that type of competition it gets people to pick size and i bo i bought both albums yeah um i bought the drake and i bought um um kanye um i didn't like none of them okay i'm being honest i didn't like drake i like both i didn't like them i i i i can't explain it i didn't like them but you got my money and um but competition-wise i love competition and i thought the marketing strategy was good i thought the um [Music] kanye west thing was strange with the stocking over his face and staying at mercedes-benz theater i thought that was weird that was weird all right um i like what dre did with all the billboards in each artist city that um that was on album he had a billboard i thought that was amazing so market strategies both were different both got the results but here's the bottom line both of them made a lot of money both have made a lot of money yeah they're both yeah they both broke records and anything else like that yeah i mean do you think it's fair to compare drake to michael jackson here's the thing same way they do lebron james and michael jordan okay what you have to do in life what and p and this is what's wrong with the the society you have to enjoy for what they're doing and their turn at bat this is lebron's turn that bad this is drake's turning back do not compare him to michael jackson michael jackson in his era from 1968 until he died was the man drake is the man and these mostly kids ain't never seen michael jackson yeah anything that wasn't around 1968 i remember sitting on the floor at my mother's house when the jackson 5 was introduced by ed sullivan i was there saw it and blew me away and to this day at least once a week i've watched that same episode of them singing i want you back on facebook to this day so we for some reason i don't know how we got into comparing people from if you didn't see this just that person grew up in your childhood is not fair to say this person is this person is not fair to say they are just as good as michael jackson drake is great now drake is great and and i think where some people are drawing the line between these comparisons is well everyone wanted to dance like michael jackson everyone wanted you know you know the glove the fashion everything else like that i feel in general people don't really want to be drake no you see what i'm saying that's not a dig at drake i just feel like you don't see people wanting to dress like drake get haircuts like drake michael jackson drake doesn't dance michael jackson had people wanting to be him to the point they got surgery right right they will get surgery uh who who hasn't tried a moonwalk exactly who has the moon walked out right now maybe a turn yeah you know i mean like like drake drake is not an entertainer right like that when michael jackson died and and um barry gordy said he called himself the king of pop but his real title is the greatest entertainer of all time i still think he holds that title i do i don't think that drake entertains on the level of a michael jackson i agree the thriller video right oh man you know the beat video like in the songs like i feel like when it's all said and done it's hard to put drake's best song against me so you just said that yeah it totally means that's what i'm saying like it's it's hard to to to put drake's best album whatever that may be you know i mean for me i think it's you know uh if you're reading this i think it's too late that's my favorite album other people think views is his favorite album or whatever else is nice too you know but he has a good word yeah put that next to thriller and it's a hard oh it's gonna go deeper it's not easy to balance those out compared to thriller or or off the wall off the wall that's what i'm saying songs like that yeah man yeah you want goosebumps on me on this one yeah and and the fact like you know how he just changed the visual game of it all like yeah when he made the thriller video he set off mtv yeah he took it to a whole nother level he made a movie michael i remember in times square when he dropped thriller this is in the 80s if i'm not mistaken right 80 81 michael jackson had about 20 000 people in times square this one had crazy eddie the stores in new york city when they had all the tvs facing times square they had everything on on the show eddie crazy eddie had thriller playing on the tv and the crackheads the people walking by was literally saying that [ __ ] bad michael jackson had the whole time square on lock in the 80s watching thriller you know when you look at you know me and charlemagne were arguing about this about who's the biggest artist internationally whether it's kanye or drake or whatever and there's a bit of a you know depending on how you look at it there's an argument for both but michael jackson was the biggest artist internationally appearing oh there's no and there was just no no argument there's no denying about it who's bigger internet a world tour who's going to outsell michael nobody to this day nobody you see micah was doing not arena what was the stuff bigger than arena coliseums coliseums yeah he was doing coliseums [ __ ] arenas yeah he was on a whole nother level and people passed out when they saw michael yeah literally like faint yeah i ain't never seen anybody fan of drake yeah chris brown people faint over that's what i heard that's what i heard okay but but chris brown i think is closer to michael jackson yeah you know what i'm saying i felt like if chris brown and i remember i i said this a long time ago you know to someone they're like oh you're ridiculous but i i felt like my soul when chris brown was starting off i said like if he really focuses and he really does what he's supposed to do and really looks at himself as one of the all-time greats he could end up on a michael jackson level but but but he was but you know but chris got caught up in whatever you got caught up with you know whatever whatever [ __ ] whatever it is he was not as laser focused as a michael right you got to be ladies of focus yeah and chris brown did have that talent the thing that i do like about drake and i gave it to him in this era and he reminds me of jay-z in this situation his work ethic is amazing like i tell people as i travel that every rapper that comes in this game should model their career after drake he was focused he handled his business and he does what he's supposed to do he parties a little bit and he gets the [ __ ] out the way yeah you ain't never hurt him on drugs he ain't getting tattoos he ain't winning the big diamonds he's got tattoos yeah but you know maybe one but i'm saying he's got tattoos all over his yeah he actually has a bunch of weird but you know what i mean like he's really to me a nice kid yeah and worked hard and i'm not saying other rappers can't do that i'm saying work hard get your money and get out the way don't get to become an artist to go to prison right don't do that yeah no he's had a run like nobody a run every time i turn around he gotta hit the greatest the greatest hip-hop run of any artist yeah period is what drake could claim for himself the greatest run you can't kanye's had a great run but but not a drake road not a drake run not a drake ride drake is really unbelievable drake is really ugly yeah man and and yeah i'm gonna listen to you when i get back on the plane yeah i'm gonna listen to you that's what it is tk kirkland always a pleasure man it's always a pleasure you know we got some possibly coming up also yeah we're gonna announce it right now listen to it you want to announce it yeah we're gonna announce it listen to me ladies and gentlemen february 14th you're gonna catch tk kirkland and vlad is gonna be my host in los angeles california stay tuned when these tickets go on sale it's gonna be unbelievable vlad tv vlad t.k kirkland stay tuned that's all i'ma say you know how we move demonstrations better than conversation there we go we putting this together so we get off the air yep peace love you my man

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