TikTok: Eating disorders, racism, censorship and distorted realities | Four Corners

tick tock is very much become a way for the young generation to express ourselves in every way you can be yourself you're at home you're filming and there's always going to be like millions of people watching you i like this one you never know when you could blow up [Music] i think every young kid's dream is to be successful online the chinese social media platform tick tock has changed the internet it's become the most popular app in the world it's fishing videos it's cooking can make skits singing dancing literally everything you could think of tik tok have [Music] it's not an app on their phone anymore it's their livelihood it's how they communicate with their friends it's how they see the world that's a part that i don't think everybody has adjusted to yet [Music] we're really at risk of having generations of young people that have formed identities in response to something that a technology platform prescribes to be the new normal behind the shiny dance videos the platform is leading people down dangerous paths i'd like to think that i wouldn't have struggled with an eating disorder if i hadn't downloaded tick tock my claim with tic-tock is that they are harvesting huge amounts of data illegally without the consent of children or their parents [Music] if you just look at tik-tok in isolation it seems innocuous but it's really takes place in this much larger context of data collection artificial intelligence and a real effort by the chinese to consolidate influence in the region and across the globe tonight on four corners tick-tock in a joint investigation with hack on triple j we're going down the rabbit hole to reveal the dark side of the app how the platform senses political content and harvests children's data and how the app's powerful algorithm exposes people to misinformation and dangerous content [Music] hi my name is rory eliza i am what and what do you do um i am a full-time tick tocker [Music] so in the morning i'll wake up maybe eight o'clock nine o'clock i'll check my phone check if my videos are done well or you know how my followers are reacting to the content that i've just posted tick tock honestly i get so much love on there it's so weird because that's my biggest platform is tick tock with 5 million followers it's crazy to think that 5 million people that's people it's not just a number and if you really think about it's five million people that tap that follow button they're all just so friendly and they're kind of like your family it's just weird like you don't know these people but they know so much about you that they treat you like a family member [Music] and on that night welcome to the news is one of millions of young australians recording virtually every moment of their lives to get famous on tick tock get ready with me for a date yo i chose an outfit let's go transition yeah so i think every young kid's dream is to you know be successful online so i think there's definitely um a group where they all just they all want to be influencers because it's kind of like the end thing now and i think that's a tick tock tick tock has been downloaded more than three billion times around the world it's become a cultural phenomenon you know i'm 21 and just learned how to do my own laundry some tomatoes and some cheese dude no you're gonna go like like oh okay okay everything is about going viral a dance started by someone in their living room and uploaded to tick-tock can turn into a stadium full of people performing it in unison i like how creative you can be on it like it's just so fun to go on that app and just express your real self rory started posting comedic skits on tik tok and her following snowballed no worries i'll scan that one right through for you right now this was her first viral video it got nearly 14 million views [Music] how about some peeking duck oh yeah but we we actually don't have the peeking duck but we've got the sneaking goose what an odd name it is it is pretty normal for a book in 2019 rory decided to leave school to become a full-time tick-tocker wait wait is is this a library uh school is just one of those things i just was not good at number one i decided to leave school when i was in year 11. um and i was never there you know i was always in sydney doing meetings or presentations for tick-tock and i just wasn't there and when i would come to school i would have no idea what we're doing because you know i've been away for heaps of days no worries at all thanks for coming to our library school you can go back and do it at tafe you can go back anytime and do it if you need it but you may never get this opportunity again so we just thought it was worth leaving school and pursuing all the business opportunities while they were there for her no worries at all thanks for coming to our library how do you feel about the fact that five million people are watching her content oh it's incredible it's even when she goes live there was a time she went live and she had 22 000 people watching her in her room and i just i sort of my mind goes back to elton john concert here and she had more people watching her than we had at that alton john concert and kind of wow that's happening in my daughter's bedroom at the moment it was a bit yeah different [Music] hey baby big fashion and cosmetic brands started noticing rory's success on tik tok and wanted to tap into a growing audience [Applause] companies sponsor influencers like rory and businesses pay tick tock to advertise on the platform this is central to the app's lucrative business model [Music] in this work industry being an influencer you have to present yourself as a brand you know we aren't really people anymore we're our brands we're selling products for brands so you kind of gotta look apart the money involved it's enough to live off so it's a pretty fair amount um i'm about in a medium to high range of incomes in australia so yeah very very decent it's hard not to even be jealous sometimes because you look at our life and you know we get up and we go to work and we come home and um and she can earn money that can take us days to earn in minutes i found myself driving and just crying having like a total breakdown and i found myself having some really quite nasty thoughts rory shares her life with five million people even her lowest moments why am i meant to be on this earth like why do why does no one like me why do i have no friends but most days she feels very alone okay being away from people is definitely lonely you know i film four videos a day that's a good three hours out of my day and then i've got another eight hours and i'm like what the heck am i gonna do for the rest of the day like i can't bring up my friends like yeah i want to hang out because they're at work so it definitely gets lonely at times and you know sometimes if you're reading the hate comments and the stress load it can be so much for your body and you're just overwhelmed and you're lonely so that can also creep into depression catherine hasn't had a question i'm happy to return to you but let's just keep it civil andrew [Music] catherine with people stuck at home during lockdown desperate for entertainment tick-tock became the world's most downloaded app in 2020 and it's continued to hold that title this year tiktok in australia has seen the same kind of bump in 2020 as elsewhere in the world [Music] in october of 2020 there was an estimated 2.5 million users on tick tock which was about a 50 growth from earlier on in the [Music] year [Music] of the popular social media apps tick tock is the most addictive late tick tock advertising data shows users spend an average of an hour and a half from the app each day you know it's like 8 p.m and i'm watching and watching and then i look up at my clock and it's 2 a.m and i'm like where the heck did those hours go it's because there's some 40 pages so addictive it's just so spot on [Music] tick tock's algorithm is its most valuable asset it's designed to determine your interests and send you personalized content to keep you on the app for as long as possible i went and saw my mama and i went got my hair done as well just tiktak works by recommending content to you through your activity on the app so the more that you scroll through the app the better the recommendations are tailored to your specific interests as well rather than selecting content that you want to watch like you would on youtube or on netflix you primarily access content through one main feed which is called the for you page on tiktok which is essentially just an endlessly scrolling algorithmically curated feed of videos that refreshes each time you open the app as soon as you sign up to tiktok the app starts collecting data about you your location gender and age and also your facial data to figure out who you are and what kind of videos you want to see your face is the form of biometric information and your face can be analyzed to distinguish a range of personality and demographic traits tiktok collects your facial data every time you make a video or use a filter on the app and can even access photos and videos saved on your phone that aren't being used on the platform to understand how an app like tick tock interprets that data scientists in melbourne have developed what's called a biometric mirror so biometric mirror for instance is trained by way of artificial intelligence to distinguish how intelligent you are how attractive how weird how responsible and how emotionally unstable you are the interesting thing there is of course that biometric mirror bases its assumptions on a single snapshot of your face so all of these assumptions are generated based on the exact appearance of your face at that exact micro second that the photo has been taken the tiktok algorithm might read your face and think that you are dealing with a significant mental health challenge you might be presented with videos that are created by users with going through a similar challenge at the time and it might really create a very colored world view for you where it's really hard to deal with your mental health challenge at that time lauren hemmings is studying to be a midwife she used to spend her uni breaks scrolling through tick-tock i think it was quarantined boredom that kind of motivated me to download it it was quite an innocent hope of just getting a good laugh really you know like getting funny videos and seeing what was on it i never had the intention of making tick-tocks or sharing them it was more just kind of from the the viewpoint of a viewer lauren started following a popular fitness influencer on the app [Music] there's one woman who had like quite a similar body type to me and she'd expressed that she was unhappy with that body type and she had started tracking calories over quarantine she had lost a really really significant amount of weight the algorithm then flooded her feed with content promoting unhealthy weight loss [Music] i was no longer seeing funny dance videos or anything it was just like this complete focus on that like fitness and healthy lifestyle goal [Music] tick tock pushed lauren toward the popular trend of meticulously tracking how many calories you eat in a day something researchers warn promotes disordered eating the hashtag what i eat in a day has more than 7 billion views on tick tock it turned into like this obsession and i felt that i could not eat anything without knowing how many calories it contained and without meeting you know my target number of calories throughout the day there was a few months where i didn't put anything into my mouth that i had not weighed i found a little young girl four months after downloading tick-tock lauren admitted to her friends and family she had an eating disorder i'd like to think that i wouldn't have struggled with an eating disorder if i hadn't downloaded tick tock i think you know tick tock was the main contributor to the development of that young users are increasingly turning to tick-tock to find and spread information on how to restrict food and hide their disordered eating from their families what they do is they actually share content of what they go through and what they've done for the day and the fascination to become thin so they would share recipes they would share diet plans they would share how you need to be disciplined for someone who is vulnerable and desperate they would follow anyone's advice none of this advice is actually good because some of this advice is oh lick a pumpkin for your lunch but don't eat drink a little water and you should be fine i was super hesitant to get on tiktok because i'd heard that it was a really bad space for people with eating disorders because the algorithm knows everything and then it would curate your feed to be interested in that kind of stuff claire benstead has been in and out of hospital for anorexia for more than five years she decided to download tiktok to find support and to promote her earrings business you want that support because it's such an isolating illness and there's so many people in my life that don't get it and don't understand it claire says the tick tock algorithm identified she had an eating disorder and she noticed an immediate change to the types of videos on her feed so it went from being you know my algorithm was you know australian humor and musical theater humor and all of that kind of stuff to just being eating disorder content all the time and as i got sicker and i got more obsessive all i could do was just flick through my phone and look at this footage i spent hours on it and just fixated on it i wasn't recovering at all i was actively relapsing claire was admitted to hospital as part of her treatment her psychologists worked with her to remove the toxic content from her tick tock feed by unfollowing accounts and reporting videos how long did it actually take you to get rid of that eating disorder content from your algorithm ages pretty much being in hospital so probably two months it took me to change the algorithm when you're kind of scrolling through like this even while claire was showing me her cleaned up tick-tock feed videos about eating disorders began reappearing hey there we go here's one right now just every five or six videos and so i'm in a good spot that this doesn't trigger me so even though you're saying not interested it's still it's still coming up if you report tick tock videos the company says its moderators then decide whether to ban them which in turn is supposed to teach the algorithm to stop featuring them i just say that i'm not interested tick tock's policies say the app bans content promoting normalizing or glorifying eating disorders you can say that it's offensive but when users like claire have reported those videos they were told they don't reach any guidelines you would think that you know something be serious and it's got the highest mortality rate of any mental illness you would think that that would be something that you could report because it is promoting those behaviors and it's making it worse tiktok also says it bans pro-eating disorder hashtags so users can't search for those videos and if they try to a number for eating disorder support service the butterfly foundation automatically pops up but users find ways around it but the issue is now that it's ever evolving like there's a hashtag now that people with eating disorders use and you would never guess that it was an eating disorder hashtag like it's after a famous singer [Music] they're just changing them to be completely irrelevant from what an eating disorder is and so it's so hard to escape now and i think it's really hard for tick tock to keep up with it all there are um mechanisms in place to screen some of that content but a lot of it is also reliant on human moderation and when you consider the amount of videos and the volume that is being uploaded to tic toc it's a very difficult task to imagine human moderators can catch everything last year tick tock established a council of outside experts to advise the company about content moderation david polgar is one of them as we know with great power comes great responsibility there's a lot of power in tick tock's algorithm therefore you have to constantly be aware of how it's impacting other individuals in other communities i think comparatively speaking tick tock has has done a a pretty decent job with being more reflective on uh rabbit holes and and how that can affect individuals but at the same time you're dealing with human behavior you're dealing with bad actors you're dealing with major differences of how people define appropriate versus inappropriate and we have this tricky kind of balancing act that's constantly happening tick tock's business model is built on creating a fun glossy and glamorous version of the world and the company's been found to strictly control content that doesn't fit with that image in march last year tick-tock policy documents were leaked showing content moderators were instructed to suppress posts by creators considered ugly poor or disabled the documents said videos including people who are chubby or obese with ugly facial looks like too many wrinkles or facial deformities and other disabilities should be excluded tick tock has said it no longer engages in these practices [Music] i don't want to admit it but looks have a lot to do with it and you know we're all secretly a bit vain as much you don't want to admit it you go for looks over non looks you know so i think looks definitely have a lot to do with it and if you look at all the really big time influences they're all beautiful like if you look at all these influence they're all stunning like nothing wrong with them so i think looks definitely have a lot to do with it [Music] much of tick tock's popularity is driven by dance trends choreographed by black creators and then copied by white influencers but black content makers say that the platform actively discriminates against them i think it's high time we let black women on this app also be famous for doing the bare minimum like i should be able to just sit here in silence and let y'all look at me and the next thing you know i have a million followers petitioned for black people for the rest of april to stop talking there have been instances of black creator-led mass walk-offs from the platform called blackouts where on a certain day black creators will stop using the platform or will urge other creators to leave the platform because of tick tock's inaction and failure to respond to or engage with some of the the criticisms and the discourse that uh that black creators have raised so if the country if the company continues to be reactive and responsive rather than proactive and really meaningfully engaged then these issues are going to continue to to occur [Music] often it makes me quite furious i guess because it's like these black creators they got talent out here dancing and showing what they're capable of so it's kind of very much disappointing and hard on us when we're out here expected to have all of these in order to get the views in order to get the likes and shares but no matter how much we try we're just not going to get that uniswani is an 18 year old tiktok creator from perth i feel like the more i go viral the more i can basically show the younger generation and show more colored girls i guess or people out there like i'm okay with my own skin i love myself the way i am i don't care what social media says about me what people on the other side of the screen says about me you can be yourself at the end of the day let me quickly address this as her following grew so did the hateful comments and she decided to confront the issue on the app so a majority of you guys still feel the need to comment about my skin color and about how dark i am and about how black black black black black i am well guess what i'm black and i'm so proud eunice says often her videos are hidden or muted from the tick tock feed meaning few people see them a practice known as shadow burning are you impressed are you mad are you upset are you sad sorry what i guess you tend to get a lot of shadow bands for speaking up about stuff such as racism stuff you couldn't mention one words black say all of this and your videos could get shadow banned when you post a video the video just it's on the app it's just you're not going to get any views for it so you can see it it's just other people can't see it when they go onto your account as well so it's up there it's just it's not going to get any views year tick-tock creators noticed the algorithm was suppressing posts with the hashtag black lives matter or george floyd so word on the street is that tick tock has banned the black lives matter hashtag [Music] one of those creators was sydney man paniora nukunuku who had created a video using a pool table to explain the black lives matter issue to australians this is a wide australia table and they pretty much had 200 years head start and they establish everything in the country so their break looks like this bro can you get home ownership in in business beautiful that was spicy that blew up bigger than i thought it would i just need to put this here don't worry it's a trauma injustice and discrimination but i said sorry so it should be fine just go for it bro it was the biggest video at the time that i've done i think you've just been lazy eh i don't know why oh i do know why because it was good i shouldn't look at the camera but i'm just really proud of it now using these two cue balls i'll explain to you that resulted in my account getting banned for like seven days i don't know why they claimed that my video breached community guidelines which is extremely vague because there is no swearing there is no explicit language there's no there's no um nudity or explicit like sexual stuff none of that and my account got banned the black lives matter is turning on tick tock which is ironic considering how much time tick tock spend silencing the voices of black creators tiktok apologized for suppressing hashtags referring to black lives matter blaming a glitch in the algorithm let's take a moment of silence for this meeting the company responded with a new initiative for black creators called the tick tock black creator program i've spoken to creators who had been approached for that program who felt that it was lip service it wasn't really a well-meaning effort to engage with black voices and engage with discourse that is important to black communities paniora has more than 180 000 followers on tick tock he often posts about living with a disability so growing up with a fake leg i always got in trouble every time i park in my disabled spot the first video i did was me going up to a pool and telling my friend to record me dip my fake leg in the water to test the water out it was a really dumb idea but for some reason people loved it and in the space of eight hours they hit about 780 000 views if you have this many followers and that many likes it's because you're pretty if you have this many followers and the same amount of likes you're just funny panora ran into trouble with the tick tock sensors when he posted a video of a confrontation with someone who was telling him he shouldn't have a disability permit so this old lady had the nerve to ask me if this is my disability card this i wonder if this is enough the video was taken down tick tock said it breached the app's community guidelines paniora appealed and it was put back up but he's had other videos about his disability removed as well the video got taken down and i didn't even know it until i look back at the hashtags and start to see which videos that i've done have like made it to the top and that wasn't there i appealed it i don't know why that was taken down don't ever do that again do i feel like tic tocs being races i don't know um has tick tock been hit up in the past around the moderators being told to limit the exposure of disabled people and ugly people yes they've been called out on that is this happening again i hope not but it definitely feels like it has we know that to decolonize palestine means also to the economy keep moving in may this year paniora posted a video from a pro-palestine rally but tick-tock's algorithm flagged it and it was instantly taken down other creators posting tick-tocks about palestine have said they've experienced the same thing when tick tock started removing my videos about the the protest in regards to the palestinian situation i was furious i was like why there is nothing in these videos that would um justify like a removal if there really isn't one of the big problems with tick-tock and the unique nature of its opaque algorithm is that it's very difficult to understand or to recognize when censorship is taking place people came together so it is possible for content on the app to be promoted or demoted without anyone knowing i'm so sick and tired of every social media platform silencing palestinian voices but we also see evidence of how content moderation that takes place in china how that type of thinking is still applied to tick tock outside of china tik tok is owned by chinese startup fight dance which is believed to be worth more than 250 billion dollars it's heavily regulated by the chinese government and there's a communist party internal committee in bite dance which ensures the party's political goals are pursued alongside the companies we have to be extra concerned about how apps like tick tock can be used as a vector for censorship and surveillance the australian strategic policy institute did the first academic investigation into censorship on tiktok concluding the company actively uses the algorithm to hide political speech it deems controversial the research was funded by the u.s state department and found anti-russian government videos as well as hashtags about lgbtqi issues and the mass detention of uyghurs were among those being suppressed [Music] the company has cooperated with public security bureaus all throughout china and including in xinjiang and that means that they work they coordinate with government agencies to ensure that the information space in china is pumped full of this propaganda that shows a very rosy picture of what's happening in xinjiang in 2018 then ceo of bite dance was forced to publicly apologize saying one of the company's platforms had gone against china's core socialist values we have a very clear public statement from the founder of bite dance that this is something that he's committed to doing and to ensuring that the company continues to push this type of propaganda certainly inside of china whether that is then extended out to the rest of the world via apps like tick tock is is another question and it's something worth watching in a statement tick tock said it does not moderate or remove content based on political sensitivities and has never removed content at the request of the chinese government it also said it embraces diversity and denied it discriminates against any creator or community on our platform we've known for a better part of a decade both here in the us and in australia about the concerns raised by the prevalence of chinese telecommunications companies and so then the next question became well what about all these apps that have that are of companies that are headquartered in china they're collecting tremendous amounts of user data they have access to the devices of individuals jamil jaffer is founder of the national security institute in washington and has advised the us government on cyber security in china it's all the central government the communist party there's no separation between the branches and so when these apps have all that data it's much easier for the chinese government to simply obtain access to that data my understanding is that about a quarter of the world's population is a member of tick tock if i'm not mistaken so that's obviously an enormous amount of data that's being generated that's being handed over for free to that single social network that has pretty much full control over what it does to the data it might analyze it to generate personalized content for you but it might also use that data to offer technology products and services to other companies moving forward in the future hello it's sydney how's it going hi anne longfield is england's former children's commissioner anne's interview take one she's representing millions of kids on tick-tock in the uk and europe in a class action against the company my claim with uh take talk at the moment is that they are harvesting huge amounts of data illegally without the consent of children or their parents and they aren't giving the right level of transparency about what happens to that data or actually what that data includes [Music] almost a third of tick tock's australian users are under 14. lawyers say tiktok takes personal information like phone numbers videos locations and facial data from kids without their consent as well as the photos and videos recorded using tick-tock but not uploaded or saved to the platform given the level of data and the lack of transparency around there it's difficult to imagine that this isn't just a kind of information gathering service which is thinly veiled as some kind of enjoyable platform which appeals to young children so the real incentive here when you look at it in really cold terms seem to be seems to be to gather as much data as possible to really be able to monetize that tick tock's already been fined millions of dollars in the us and south korea for harvesting children's data the company restricted app access for children and has taken down millions of underage users accounts there's been no legal action in australia i think that governments do have a responsibility to intervene to ensure that children are protected in whatever kind of environment they're in and you see those protections and measures in terms of the physical environment in terms of their safety um you know in the communities they live in in the environments they are but it hasn't always been the case online and and and some uh governments have struggled to see what that means if the case is successful ticktop could have to pay children from the uk and europe billions in compensation ticktock is fighting the case in a statement the company said privacy and safety are top priorities for tick tock and we have robust policies processes and technologies in place to help protect all users and our teenage users in particular we believe the claims lack merit and intend to vigorously defend the action the u.s government is reviewing tick-tock and hasn't ruled out a ban the real question you asked is what about the national security implications so okay yes a lot of people are using it right but why does that matter and it matters i think because of the acts it gives you to this large amount of data you never think about the chinese government in beijing having videos of you in your home outside your home at the park with your kids knowing who your kids play with i mean that's what they have now potentially with this data set we've seen now two consecutive presidents sign executive orders making clear that they are very concerned about the national security implications of tick tock's data collection as well as the impact it has on the privacy civilities of americans india has announced a ban on tick tock and in july last year prime minister scott morrison ordered a review by intelligence agencies into the app we are always very mindful of those risks and we are always monitoring them very very closely and if we consider there is a need to take further action than we are taking now then i can tell you we won't be shy about it it's certainly a security concern that the data of australian users is potentially going back to beijing tiktok maintained that this is not the case and our analysis showed that there's certainly not a fire hose of content that's being sent back to beijing but that doesn't mean that that content can't be accessed from beijing if that's required tiktok maintains australian users data is held on servers in the us and singapore and that it has never provided data to the chinese government staff in the home affairs and defence departments have been told not to have tick tock on their phones because of security risks but scott morrison said there wasn't enough evidence to ban tiktok in australia the scope of the investigation did seem to be quite limited and that scope is not really enough to be able to tell the rest of australia and regular australian citizens whether it's a good idea for them to be using the app there should definitely be another more rigorous and lengthy review into tick-tock to fully understand the risks that tick-tock presents and so if you just look at tick-tock in isolation say well this is this one app and it's just kids doing dancing videos it seems innocuous but it's really takes place in this much larger context of data collection artificial intelligence and a real effort by the chinese to consolidate influence in the region and across the globe in just two years tick tock has cemented itself as the apple of choice for millions of australians so you guys kept telling me to go on the voice 2021 so i did there are serious concerns that tick tock's fun and beautiful version of reality is distorting the way we see the world and questions about whether its users understand the risks we're really at risk of having generations of young people that haven't been able to form their own identity in natural ways and instead have formed identities in response to something that a technology or a technology platform prescribes to be the normal or the new normal last time this lady came up to me go you don't look disabled enough and i look disabled enough i understand that tiktok is trying its very best to make the platform palatable to everyone by just having fun dance videos and lip sync videos [Music] but i know that my content gives value to so many people who look like me who live the same life like me who are brown like me [Music] i ended up cutting off tick-tock like after a few months but even with that like it still left me with the eating disorder you know like tick-tock kind of led to the development and then it has taken a really really long time to to fix that tic toc isn't out here to help people i don't think it's coming to the world with this intention of helping people if they're going to make money off of something then they will make money off of something i think they maybe need to realize the impact that is having on people [Music] [Applause] [Music] if the material covered in this story has raised 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Length: 42min 46sec (2566 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 28 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/popzi]

TL;DR: TikTok is trash.

[u/Badboyofgaming]

Wait till they see the data mining of reddit and Facebook

[u/CHLLHC]

ABC is an Australian public broadcast service.

[u/xfinitysucks]

Has anyone read the google terms of service?

[u/DriftingMemes]

"You can express yourself in every single way!"

40 minutes of kids doing stupid dances

[u/KMAGS5]

I’ll admit I didn’t watch the whole thing but is what TikTok is doing any different than say Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc? I know a lot of people that hate on TikTok but fall into the same trap on Facebook. Seems like it’s easier for some people to hate TikTok because it’s Chinese when they are in fact doing the same thing as US companies

[u/marioquartz]

Im waiting "Reddit: Data mining, discrimination and dangerous content on the popular web"

Spoiler: there are very little diferences.

[u/jeeeeek]

• goes and deletes TikTok …for the second time *

[u/anotherwhinnybitch]

My complaint is that the app take so much battery hours (scrolling ig all day long only requires me twice charge for a day and much less for Reddit) also most of the content is no longer relatable for me.