There Can Be Only One Fake Natty: Mike O'Hearn Reacts To Liver King Steroids Reveal

hey let me uh take one second here to let you guys know that my products the Titan crew are available over at Walmart you got the pump product get that focus on the workout the test booster bump it naturally and then the joint support you gotta keep the joints healthy that way you can train for a lifetime I want to take that one minute let's get back into the podcast thanks again good morning guys this is the Mike O'Hearn show on generation iron and we're going to go over uh some I guess for you guys hot topics today um obviously the liver King some information about him has come awry and then I want to try to catch up with the generation iron team they're working on some projects and so they are seeing some of these competitors that are competing at the Mr Olympia this year and I want to hear about how good these guys are looking just with like two and a half weeks out from the Mr Olympia by the time you guys see this will be honestly two weeks so I'm excited to see what uh Chris Bumstead looks like and uh the the Mr open Mr Olympia bodybuilding this is what I'm really excited about seeing this year um I'm really excited about seeing these guys it's going to be a incredible lineup and I will be there so if anybody's coming out to Vegas to see the Mr Olympia make sure to come by and see me over at my booth um the Titan crew will be there and I'll be bringing the pups and the misses and the little Titan himself but let's get into this episode right now I have the president and the man the myth Vlad from Generation Iron actually sitting down with me today to discuss some of the stuff that's going on foreign let's get it right into it man I know we gotta talk about this liver King situation right so what is your initial take on this and what was the The Buzz around the office so first of all liver King right I mean in my opinion this guy came out of nowhere and he made the most progress when it comes to you know being a fitness influencer out there in a year that I've seen anybody ever ever you know I mean like he he went to like from from zero to being everywhere in a matter of like a year it seems like right I'm sure he was doing stuff year and a half less than two years from what my team says yeah exactly he made an incredible progress and as he rose to that Fame it seems like everybody's trying to expose that guy somehow especially on the blocks right it seems like people want to tear him down like he's an Entertainer you know what I mean like he's somebody who I feel like entertains people he's funny you know what I'm saying like he he's a he I don't understand what the hate is about so I feel like people have been trying to tear them down that's what I think personally I feel like he's you know he's a fun guy he I know he got his own business going on like supplementation or whatever he got going on but ultimately he's an entertainer right I mean he entertains people online so then this video came out uh by your friend the other day right um I'll play some more dates the guy that you like um and he basically is exposing him for using steroids now publicly right liver King is claiming to be natural he's denying use of any type of PEDs and then more more plates more dates Derek he's saying that he got emails exposing that liver King is basically using steroids he's been talking to some coach about all his cycles and he even reached out to Derek for help with that stuff as well so it's like an hour-long video right talking about he's going through every single email which it's kind of like if you know I don't know if those emails are real not really I have no clue there's no validation to it right but basically people trying to tear him down and saying he's a fake Maddie that's that's the gist of it right that's what's happening does it matter if they're fake or not fake I mean let's just go with the intake that it's possibly they're real let's just let's play that side of it does it does it weigh with you one way or another I don't care of him getting called out against what he was saying was he was doing compared to what he is doing well it looks like everybody's been calling him out right it looks like even Joe Rogan was saying that this guy is definitely not natural he's been like you know it's been like a campaign going against liver King for whatever reason right um I mean I don't care either way of what he is but it's part of his Persona is to be natural I'm assuming right so but I mean ultimately the question is is it going to damage because in the video in the beginning of the video right uh Derek is saying that liver King Rose to fame and he has a 100 million dollar a year of business I'm not sure what the business actually is I'm assuming it's selling some kind of supplementation right I don't know what his business is but so the question is the combination of supplements with programs and stuff is that basically supplements with programs so the question is they're going to now damage his bill are people going to stop buying us like what's gonna what's gonna be the the the ramification of this video that's the question right are people going to stop watching it are people going to stop watching liver King because I ask you a personal question yeah what's up before we go is it going to damage the business you personally do you care one way or another yeah he's he's outed I guess you would say do I care if he's out of him I personally don't care if I look at liver King as Entertainer whose binge is making this crazy viral videos it's how I look at him you know I mean I never I never really thought about what he's doing outside of that I look at him just purely entertainment you know I mean I think that's how I look at him social media uh celebrity you know what I mean so because I I think in the same way as you did I I never really followed him but my staff does and they and everybody I know that knows him says he's a nice guy um and I just I don't follow a lot of entertainers in the sense on social media you know I I even have friends that work out but they always do like stunts in the gym and stuff like that and I don't follow that because I sure you know it's if anything I'm following the Husky page or something like that or a Christmas page um so the entertainers I don't really I don't get into so it doesn't doesn't bug me one way or another and also you know who liver King reminded me of a little bit so I didn't interrupt him like you know who reminded me of a little bit of sort of like uh you're not a guy named Juju mufu or jiju mufu you know the guy who did the stunts who's actually great guys who I interviewed him before liver King reminded me slightly of him maybe visually uh but then obviously completely different like you know the whole being a caveman like it's different from him but it kind of reminded me of that type of entertainment you know what I mean like um yeah so someone similar of that but like listen I don't know what the hate is about really I mean but let's talk about I think the haters basically people are saying that it's selling them fake promise whatever that means and I guess people saying is he's using his supplements to like be like you know you can get like me if you take the supplements but in reality he's taking steroids I think that's the issue right that's the core of the problem here that's what people are saying I would say that that I think half the people or at least half of the people are upset that he was selling something and making it like if you take the vitamins you can be like me if you do my program you could be like me and uh I see why they would be upset but I got a question um is that where does the responsibility fall on so like back in the days what was it it was cigarettes you know they were selling cigarettes and they're nobody said they were bad for you so everybody smoked cigarettes and then you find out later that it causes cancer or some serious serious problems but I'm sorry I just see she didn't even get she didn't even get that but that might be a little extreme for this but it was a mislead so his was a mislead on doing something but when is it yours as the consumer just common sense that all right if you're going to take this pill it's going to be the trick I think it's the people that always look for the trick the one niche do you see what I'm saying it's like I always talk about like follow people like if you want to do Health and Fitness follow like what Arnold did or Robbie Robinson does or Frank Zane or these guys back in the day there's nothing new to the game you just eat healthy train and then keep going forward right and nobody wants that everybody wants the trick and so this guy comes out he goes hey you eat liver and Bulls balls you're golden you're gonna be a freak like me and it's like well I mean Common Sense would tell you that's not so right so you're saying it's really not uh not liver Kings fault in any way it's people that are just taking him as the Pinnacle of fitness and follow him right that's ultimately the issue here for me it's there's somewhat of a naive that you want the gimmick you want to be you can't be just blinded by that and so I always say that it's not the vitamins even I have a vitamin company I say it's not the vitamins it's it's nutrition it's consistency there's nothing new that I'm doing that Robbie hasn't taught me and I didn't pick up from Mendenhall or Lee Haney it's just pulling it forward to today's world and if you don't think it's just the basics to get you there and then you're kind of falling into this yourself and that kind of sucks but at what point does this lie on them believing the hype I guess Mariah no it's yeah I mean like from a common sense perspective right this guy's an Entertainer he's a social media Entertainer I mean it's a if if somebody can't understand that it's just weird but um ultimately if I don't know if I should believe that video if he's making 100 million I guess no actually you know what Liberty himself on some podcast said he's his business is generating 100 million dollars a year so ultimately somebody is buying his his products right so he has customer base all right so the question now is what do those people still going to care exactly and also you know like you know like for example if a pro bodybuilder right of any from any any IBB Pro bodybuilder for example is promoting a supplement company but he's also taking steroids I mean those supplements don't work like it's that like like what does that really mean like it's just because you also take in a conjunction with the supplements you take in steroids it doesn't mean that the supplements are not good you see what I'm saying so even if liver King is hypothetical in steroids listen I could I could take whatever uh Jay Cutler or Phil Heath's cycle was for the Mr Olympia I won't even look half as good as them just because somebody's doing something before there's other guys that are walking around playing pro football that look like absolute freaks that are 100 natural you know it's it keeps going back to the thing that they've always like you said trying to call them out okay so he's called out yeah and it's like what were you hoping for that he wasn't the liver pill and eating Bull's balls is gonna make you just like him I think the kind of thing is like you do there's entertainment and and cars do it car commercials do it entertainment the the Coca-Cola always do it it's a cool guy with a whole bunch of girls around them drinking Coke yeah it really doesn't do that for you but you know it's a sales pitch but I think you're right society's going to be mad exactly I don't know if they're going to hurt the business or not there was a response from liver King I think he did some he didn't really address the accusation he just said I don't know it was like a response basically it was on Rolling Stones I think this morning uh the response was kind of vague he didn't address anything in specific but do you think he should be the actually the question for you is do you think he should be addressing this video Ah that's a good question I didn't think about that probably for him as a businessman and that uh what he was doing I think there was something and I guess here's the question he admits that he did it solely to get a certain amount of followers I did this to get a million followers or I want to do this next step to get a million followers or I at least wanted to be governed by somebody that knows better than I do to get this million followers because if I stay in great shape and I talk this way it's going to give me a million followers and like you said he exploded people loved it people ate it up so um yeah it's like the memes that are already outgoing um what was the meme that you read to me today I made you you eat both yeah the whole time I was juicing yeah yeah it was just one of those kind of it's like you're gullible if you if you believe that in in a sense and and what I mean by that is that he should talk about it he should talk about hey this is my my goal was to kind of get out there entertain you guys and do stuff I think he did some good these guys think he's hilarious and fun I've never heard a bad thing about him uh he misled people business-wise I wouldn't have done that I I think that you comes to health and fitness it's just eating right for a period of time it's training right for a period of time for a long period of time and doing the best you can just because you take supplements isn't going to do even if you take steroids it ain't gonna make you like this guy's pretty jacked right he's not a big guy but he's you know he's he's a jacked guy even if you do probably what he's doing you're still not going to look that jacked Vice you know so people also accuse him of having um some kind of surgically implanted ABS or something I heard that before I forgot who said it have you heard that one I haven't heard that one but I can imagine there's somebody out there dumb enough to say that stuff it's like it's like Tom Cruise uh drinks baby blood or whatever those rumors kind of things are it's like that's why he looks the way he looks it's like wow you guys just want to believe anything and those are the same people that are probably pissed off right now I don't know if this be curious to see if it hurts the company that's a good question I mean ultimately speaking right um did he from what I understand from the videos and correct me if I'm wrong but from his videos he says he wasn't doing it and if you want to look like him all you got to do is take his vitamins and train the way or eats the way he does and you and you know me long enough and the world knows me long enough to know that it's basic it isn't a trick you can get on one of the fun funny things I saw was I think in the message my team read to me that his joints are pretty messed up and it's like these are things that I've always talked about it's like well if you're gonna go that route health and fitness is about staying healthy as long as you possibly can and the muscle will come and go so you think he's not so you you convince are you convinced that those emails are real then that liver king is not natural I don't care either way I really I but it's again he's laughing all the way to the bank sure he's a hundred million dollar listen I got a vitamin cup I know how hard it is to make 20 million dollars a year it's it's a tough wreck and he did it easily by a little uh wave of the hand as a magician would say and people just fell right in they got fish hooked well I'll be honest with you I I ca like the the video you know what I'm not saying Derek from the podcast made up the emails but whoever send them those emails could have easily forged them I'm just saying this we have to look into that as well I mean you don't know some guys some coach sent it to him I don't know there's no validity 100 you know yeah it's it being said I I think one of the things that you said to me earlier and this because this whole Kenny KO thing happened the other day is people are gonna keep calling you out and they're going to keep trying to get whatever if you got to start them try to break you down on that and so uh Kenny put out a video the other day that said to a couple guys a couple guys that were on um drugs and Kenny said well Mike says you don't have to do it at any age and there's no video of me saying that I think I think if your body is messed up yeah you never said that what you said was yeah go what did I say right yeah what you said was is that like it depends whether you do need it or don't need it you know I mean some don't some do and there's some 20 year old don't need it and that was the one thing that I said Kenny you can't don't even be a smartass when it comes to me about this stuff because I'm a believer that if your body's messed up 100 go do that but here's something that's interesting to me is that this guy had money and obviously had some good money because he was spending a crazy amount on on this stuff but from everybody I talked to the way he was taking this stuff wasn't bright it wasn't a good way to do it so my question then to you is this this guy had money and was still taking it incorrectly allegedly huh allegedly taken I'm like okay we if you want to play that game let's say I'm gonna go with that these are legit and he was taking that dose and he was taken in correct my point is and I've talked about this and I say this to all my people that I work with go get your blood work done if this doesn't show you anything else besides Derek getting tons of views on his video people who ever wanted to call him out call them out I think the great thing that I can take from this and everybody that's watching this today go get your blood work done and if you're gonna do this do this with a company that's going to help you do this correctly and I think that's what's going to come from this at least from my take and how I'll talk about this is this is a guy that was a bright guy you don't make that kind of money you don't become that big if you weren't calculated and smart Street Smart and still taking the stuff incorrectly to where he's a 40. he's a kid he's a kid he's got two decades to catch me and he's already broken his uh tenants his tenants are are in bad shape supposedly he's like in his early 40s really yeah it's like I did not know and that's my point my point was wow I always didn't care either way just because I would look at him and I know people were an awe I just I'm a skin guy when your skin looks like that destroyed for me for what I do I just I was like oh something's off here and that's just my take on it there's like the Skin's the most important thing so the unhealthiness that he was doing from what I see that's what I worry about kids doing I worry about these kids not going to do blood work they're listening to Joe Blow at the gym and the reason I'm saying that again is this guy was pretty bright and from what I see he was taking it incorrectly to the point where his body's not functioning the way it should function um for him to keep moving forward at 40 he has to do I don't know a a reconstruction of this whole thing do you see what I'm saying though because health and fitness is supposed to be again about being healthy looking healthy and definitely joints are a huge thing to me because I know that as soon as your joints hurt and your back hurts and your knees are gone you're done with health and fitness and you're done with living life to the fullest so anybody watching this today go over to somebody like transcend get your blood work done talk to those guys get a coach that will work with you get somebody that will tell you what you need to do and what you don't need to do because this is what I'm I'm freaked out now that I'm just thinking about this is that how many kids 20 year olds are going to go hey if he was taking this and he looked like that why don't I just do the same thing he was doing and get famous nobody's been talking about that right well I think that um man today you know in today's world right everybody just wants to find their Niche on social media and blow up right that's the goal so are you saying that allegedly a liver King was taking all that stuff and he's not functioning properly but he achieved this goal of you know becoming successful in social media right so maybe now he's gonna if he is not natural he's going to start thinking about health or whatever right but he achieved his ultimate immediate goal right so that's you know and I feel like a lot of kids or adults in these day and age look at it like that basically let's let's get to the let's get to what we need to get and then we'll worry about the other stuff so I feel like you know you know I think most people go forget it if I can jump onto stuff make a hundred million dollars I'd do the same thing he did and it's like you won't because the body's gonna ache and you're not gonna live that full life that's just an old man trying to talk to the kids out there don't go get somebody that's smart about this stuff and I didn't even think about that I would talk about this today is that I'm worried now that somebody sees this uh I guess what would you call it his protocol his cycle that they would say hey I'm just mimicking what he did and he could still go out and walk 12 miles a day or whatever he does you know it's like yeah that might be a scary thing and the day you and I agree he's an Entertainer and he entertained people enough to make 100 million dollars exactly so do you think liver King should sue Derek for uh making this type of video wow um no I it's two things it's it's two things here right it's defamation or character right um and then um that's one aspect that you can he'd have to prove those things are fake and then soar but then also even if they're not fake those are private you know emails that were leaked also you know what I mean think about that um I I don't know how it works in that sense if he received it in in a uh he's not a doctor on the person that sent it was not a doctor so there's no confidentiality in that and if somebody got in there and got your papers you know that happened to come across this table sure put it this way if you're making a if you're making a if you're making a type of money that his claim is making you you can make a case and and just drag him to the court you know what I'm saying if he gets really if that gets under his skin why can't everybody that he said do this can go sue him for their money back there's that is that 100 million dollars is gone really fast in lawsuits just fighting the lawsuits from all these people going I want my 40 bucks back I want my 150 bags I want enough people to send that in there yeah that's interesting I wonder if you can actually sue somebody for saying oh well you're on steroids and your products don't work now because I believed in you right I mean I guess you could make that case to it it's your case to make then the definition of character because all Derek did was just read emails that were given to him of this guy and the guy's gonna have to prove that well first of all those aren't mine that's going to be tough if you know mostly if they are um right yeah I don't know it's an ugly situation either way all right but I think I don't know man to the people out there don't don't don't when it comes to steroids don't do drugs don't do drugs or if you're gonna do it do it with somebody that actually does it for a living and they have doctors and they have people that will talk to you at least he got smart enough at one point that he goes hey you know what if I get a little bit more jacked and stay in shape I could make a million followers and he said his goal and he got it and he crushed it goal everybody wanted to talk to him sure no but you but Mike I guarantee you like let's say if you're if you're in a fitness and you're on a cycle of some sort right and then you switch coaches the next coach is going to criticize your previous coach all the cycle again put you in a new cycle right I'm assuming and then once you go to the next one they're gonna criticize that and it's just a ongoing cycle of go a coach don't don't have a coach that's the that's a bad thing don't have a coach do this because a coach just knows workouts and let's say he's really educated on the fact of what drugs to do to be Mr whatever or misses whatever I would still go through a medical clinic like transcend or somebody like that um when I talked to uh uh because for my people that I work with I say go get your blood work done I don't care who you are I don't care your age get your stuff done let's see what your cholesterol is at let's see all this stuff this doesn't just steroids but get your blood work done and when I was talking to uh Phil Heath he was telling me about transcend and how great they are with people and and and they have doctors on top of doctors and then they have coaches with inside there that talk to you about the stuff and teach you this stuff don't go with a an Instagram coach that is 27 years old that's got a couple people in the gym on drugs and goes oh no I know what to give you sure what's what's transcend Mike is that a facility of some sort transcend is like yeah they're they're a company out of Michigan um they're a great company and they work with a lot of the top pros and stuff but they what I like is that they work with Average Joe's and that's you know the the mom and pop that want to have a healthy life and they they work with people that I work with that are these 25 year olds and for some reason their testosterone is tanked um or you got the 45 year olds that you know want to be more active sex life you know that kind of stuff sure well guess what Mike I've heard I've heard it I've heard a story of this of this coach I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say his name um but he coached some of the top Notch Pros who we all know right from the from the from bodybuilding and I was told that this guy doesn't do any type of training or posing at all all he does is put together a cycle and that's all he does but he's but he's so good at it he's so good at it that obviously it's working for those who he gives it to but that's all he does he doesn't mind until you're training your diet none of that just just a cycle I don't know if it's true but that's what I heard about that I I'd go back I wouldn't that's the problem you and I know all these guys behind the curtain that just do that kind of like a lot of these guys aren't even trainers I consider them pharmacists or or chemists they're so good with how much carbs and protein that works with these kind of drugs it's like um but you're talking about the extreme the guys that really want to become something Mr Olympian stuff and again they're going back to I'm nothing if I don't get the trophy mm-hmm yeah I'm talking about the Olympia I'm talking about Olympia level competitors in Olympia level I know these coaches as well as you do and and that's I still I I wouldn't trust those guys I would still go to the doctor and get the breakdown and then also you just really take away from this the aspect of that these guys like the liver King just because you do his cycle doesn't mean you're going to look like him so don't assume that you know but Mike I mean uh legally speaking right you can't go to the doctor if you're a bodybuilder and uh get a get a cycle from I mean unless a doctor violates I mean let's be honest here right they can push you on trt to bring your levels to whatever they think is a norm but they can't push you on a bodybuilding cycle to like it's a grow muscle right I mean kid I I I'm assuming the world's pretty crooked I think there's somebody out there unfortunately I I live in the real world that that if you want something most likely you can get it and so all right well yeah okay yeah I'm sorry I'd go the other way with that it's yeah there's probably a couple doctors out there you know what happened to Michael Jackson's doctor you know it's like it's oh man sure but were you saying it but but were you saying it's still better to go that route through a crooked doctor then go into like some coach from out you know I I hear what you're saying it goes no it goes right back to what I said earlier about the people that watched uh the liver guy and said hey he's finally got it we're gonna eat this way and uh I'll be buffed so if they're gonna to a doctor and go I want to look like the most Greek god in the world and go go beat Chris Bumstead at the classic bodybuilding it's like I I can't help everybody I can only help people there's some kind of common sense if you thought the pill eating Bull's balls is gonna make you jacked I can't help that person no bull eating I get it it's like you kind of have to you've got to take responsibility for yourself at some point and go listen if I'm taking it from the the jacked guy at the gym and you think you're doing it right and then find out that your your balls shriveled up to nothing and you can't do anything and you're 25 years old and then you lose all the muscle in the next three months it's like that's on you all the people that are mad about this guy he's selling them a vitamin that's on you the world's not easy baby but you got to have some kind of common sense to where you freaking go it's the old school mentality just put the work in Eat Right everything else is a little bit of a percentage more and then if you're going to do something don't do it from the guy at the gym I agree with you 100 it's a tough industry though right it's a tough industry because now how crazy they come out of the Woodworks to try to do the gimmicks how many guys do do the gimmick so there's so many other guys not just this guy but I see I I what is it called like you get these um advertisements on Instagram and I gotta you know these coaches going hey do you want to eat hamburgers do you want to have pizza well I can still get you in shape and you can eat like this so what's the difference between those guys and this guy I don't know man because I know these guys I know they don't eat the the hamburgers every day but they're selling their programs the same way they're saying I'm the one that can get you to that level don't worry all right well listen people like easy right people like easy because it sounds good and maybe what if it works you know what I mean what if it's always a what if right so that's why somebody will buy those programs essentially you know what I mean somebody will will swipe that card or whatever you know what I mean and they'll buy it and they'll you know and that's how those people make money you know it's a cycle of things some people make money some people spend do you think the liver King helped people because I think he did help some people at least some people got out there started getting active he was entertaining they started eating a different variety of food I bet you he helped a lot of people putting anybody that can get you to do a regimen to where you're eating more frequently or healthier that can make you active I think is is a good thing I think also he's he probably motivated people mentally you know what I mean like he gave mental motivation to a lot of people like people see him always like doing things he's happy he's all over the place he's talking about positivity you know I mean I think that alone in my opinion what was his main contribution what's currently his main contribution to the fitness industry just him being a over the top Persona you know what I mean the main thing is he gave some funny entertainment it was fun to watch he was he he met well yeah he uh uh got people probably moving and grooving back outside in this world and uh entertained him so good for him good for him it sucks though I agree with you uh whoever did leak the emails what was the point of that I think because I think what if those emails are real I think the coach probably better at the lubricating because liver King maybe left him as being a client right and maybe he even threatened liver King that he will because there's a lot of [ __ ] going on behind the scenes probably right I'm sure he was like I'm gonna expose you or maybe he asked him for some money maybe I'm saying maybe and maybe that's why he sent it to Derek because liver King didn't want to deal with him anymore if the if they actually real because otherwise what's the point of like why would you do that I don't know it has to be something about Liberty leaving him well in in the scheme of life I think uh he was entertaining and it's going to tell everybody entertain social media they take it so um I don't know what the word would be literally like like this is factual these literally he's enjoying himself he's living his life he's doing his thing in in four in he he made himself famous in a year and a half two years and in another two years the world will forget about him but he'll still be sitting there with a 100 million dollar business you know enjoying life so I think so too man I don't think he's going away you know I think he's still going to be like popping up on everybody's feeds you know what I mean like because that's how people discovered him right they had viral videos you scroll you scroll through like Instagram or something in it but who's this guy you know what I mean and I think he's still going to continue doing it I don't think it's going to go away I have no clue I have no clue you think he's done oh you think it's done what you think it's done Mike I don't know I I've always said when you hit to the ceiling that fast even for the young superstars that's a that's a lot of it's a lot to happen in one time and to to get there that level and then to be fibbing on something like that and relying that that's that's one of your main reasons why you're you're the way you are is because of this way you eat because of the vitamins and stuff you take that's a tough thing to overcome um man he's a father so as a father man I hope he continues to kick ass and and provide and hope his marriage is great so for me I know what it's how tough life is I hope he's fine I hope so too man I think he will be let's how about this how about we talk in a couple of weeks and we'll see what happens I think it's all going to blow over you know let's let's see uh see what goes down yeah I think I do have one question for you because this is one of those yeah how much different is he than the guy with the genetic arms selling the arm workout saying if you do this workout or the girl that great 23 year old that has this genetic butt and she says buy my program because this is a good point here because somebody I know just got sued a girl from Texas got sued do you guys hear about that oh during the lockdown a girl said acclaims this is her program this is what she does she could be this way if you follow her program comes out it was a complete lie it wasn't how she did what she did long story short she actually got sued for for that kind of information so I'm curious if this is something bigger and I just remembered that case that was the first time I heard about somebody I think of a thing I've heard about that actually I don't know what I I don't know what transpired afterwards but I heard something about the lawsuit yeah yeah so she she was a huge influencer and she got hit with it so I'm curious if this is going to be actually hit back harder than what we assume and this isn't just going to be a tabloid thing where somebody's going to actually sue them for I don't know I can't wait to see what happens honestly you know I personally feel like you I don't know I think it's going to blow over but let's you think it's going to be something serious so let's see let's see what happens let's see what happens in a month time unlike you I don't care what happens I hope he's okay the kids are all right but I don't care I'm more excited about the Mr lippian a couple weeks and seeing this open class lineup that's what I'm excited about yeah yeah that's gonna be a good one yeah yeah you do you got your property you predicted uh my prediction doesn't matter yours matters you I think Aaron's gonna do great Andrew Jackson's gonna win Andrew Andrew yeah uh yeah I didn't think he's gonna win I said he's gonna do extremely well he sets up three come on you said top five what's the top five what's up you said something there you go Nick is gonna make some damage I mean you gotta it's a cool lineup that's what I think it's so like I don't watch football anymore since for the team I watch it because I have friends that play for teams you know what I mean so I watch Seattle because I got a couple friends I I watch um LA because they had a couple friends of mine are on there and this stage feels like I got a whole bunch of friends competing that I get to see and it's like I want them all to win so it's it's a cool Mr Olympia for me one last question to wrap this up with who do you think will do better at this year's Olympia Nick Walker or Hunter Labrada hmm wow I thought uh Hunter was not in it I thought he dropped out did he oh wait did he drop out wait did he drop out I'm not sure I thought I read something that he may not be doing it that's a tough one because they're too cheers they're big thick guys uh wow yeah [Music] Nick's Nick seems uh just from our discussions so freaking hungry that he's gonna wheel himself into a top position you know it's like that old school Arnold I was just with Frank Zane and I could we were talking about that and how Arnold at the 1980 kind of just wheeled himself into winning that show so I'd watch out for nothing he's gonna make it Nick's gonna be tough to beat for anybody everybody's gonna have to come in at their very very top and then so and then we'll get all their cycles and then we'll compare their Cycles to uh liver King and see who was on more growth hormone I'm gonna say the liver King was and then um oh my god oh too much too much man thanks for hanging out man and thanks for talking about this at end of the day absolutely brother end of the day you're thinking this will blow over he'll be fine I think so and you say not so let's let's see end of the day I'm saying kids work with somebody uh transcend is somebody that I recommend go get your blood work done do this smart don't watch this guy make that kind of money and think that you can just copy it don't don't don't do that don't copy what he's just done and if you do do it with somebody that's um smarter in the sense of uh if you're going to go down that route always always get the blood work done don't do the Kenny KO thing take the stuff and look bad don't do that [Music] you dropped Obama though all right go play brother next time we'll talk soon all right so yeah it's it's so much to take in with what this guy's doing but the outside stuff that I see when it comes to what has transpired with him if the emails are real or fake the thing I take away from this is uh he finally got to a point where if he was taking that stuff uh he wasn't doing it with somebody that understood more than him and again when it comes to health and fitness I said it before and I'll say it now working out is great and it can in it help your life and it can set you up to live a healthier life but if you train like an idiot it can shorten it and it's the same thing with nutrition you could eat really really healthy to where you're building your connective and the bone density and making sure your cholesterol is all good you have a healthy heart or you can eat like a slob and and again go down the other route I'm going to put transcend on here you get a hold of them talk to them talk to a doctor talk to a counselor get your blood work done um even if you're thinking about it down the road do this I will make sure that they have a special link that you can go through me to get it so you can talk to somebody that's a professional don't just go out there and copy this guy's um cycle and start doing it thinking you're going to get the same results we're all different and that's what I keep saying over and over again there's some 25 year olds out there that might need help and there's some 50 year olds that might need or might not and just because you get on something doesn't mean that you're going to look like a Greek god it doesn't work that way and don't think it's a magic ticket okay it's not your golden ticket to be Mr whatever Mr Ohio do not do that um this is about just creating a better you a healthier you a smarter you and work with somebody like transcend to get this done correctly all right all right that's it for this week we will see you guys next week and I will try to get actually transcend to do a sit down with me the uh two main cats at their organization to sit down with me and really explain to you guys um the pros and cons how this could help you and who needs the help and who doesn't need to do this route

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Published: Fri Dec 02 2022