Viper's sorry about that oh hey what's up man not much there are you sick as well I'm I'm probably not as sick as you yeah because it was the first thing you brought up but I'm doing alright you gave it to me so you're gonna recommend are you streaming this as well Viper yeah I'm streaming as well okay okay I just wanted to know do that way it's yours yeah yeah well the games started actually hi let me get cap fridge to work one second all to captures even using capture aged man I have it but I haven't really gotten around to use too much man I thought you were top 10 caster 25 all right top 25 is acceptable top 10 with catch raids yes exactly alright I need to get into the game here I have all these different scenes from at 24 I'm already in the game and I'm not that's not true top 10 confirmed alright sweet so I guess I'll do the introduction even though we're both streaming it makes a lot of sense welcome everyone to game number one in a best-of-seven show match for $1,000 between the max and Hera just for the sake of my YouTube audience I have Viper Co casting with me and sorry if you don't want to see my face I do that during 24 hour streams of Viper it's it's it's free pick of civilizations and Aztec word probably no surprise right but the can't can they repeat soups so free free pick no repeat game one it's a radius in the repeat ah and then game seven if we get there is also Rabia alright sounds cool sounds good alright well here we have in the blue the max uh whoo Viper and I had the pleasure of meeting and then also Hera and we met recently in Manchester which is why we're both sick but Aztec war pretty open maps for both players I personally I slightly favor a charismatic is what blinds are more secured but I don't know if you agree or disagree on that viper i heavily favored her this map but not because then yeah those are the cold pretty much look at the levels of the max they're all super exposed on kind of if you die out of control adept he'll then he's gonna be in big trouble yep both players played in hidden Cup - and max ended up facing you in the finals and then Hara lost to the fat dragon in round one I think Hera certainly had the skill to be many the players in hidden Cup - but Divis kind of kind of the worst player to face up against Hera yeah I think there's maybe has a number for some reason I'm not sure why yeah it has to be some playstyle wise but yeah I don't know it's a I think he's beaten he ran out two or three times in a row in the tournament so yeah I think players who are very good with Fords and towers give Harrison problems like tatto and vivvy those are the two that come to mind all right so do you remember in Manchester we talked about how you would guess the winner of each created through five minutes yes all right go ahead we can vote the next game okay perfect now it's gonna be really depressing if you get every single game right that's what I'm hoping for me yeah so my truant ruined my career is it best of seven or all seven games played its best of seven okay cool yeah well that one three our Oasis game in ECL I left the studio because I thought the game was over I got back to my hotel and then Swami had come back and then I went to bed thinking it was over then and that there was another comeback in that one so I actually I mean I went early because I was feeling nothing too great but I yeah close the stream after Game three because I saw The Sims for the fourth game which was step and I just yes exactly no chance for a for a swarm either but apparently they won't get a three hour final finale's so who six time I'm not jealous of the caster's or the players but um so a bit of Lamy wasn't paying attention to Max's base I think max just pushed three here so he'll be fine but Harris snags the sheep it will likely be a man and arm opening so let me ask you this Viper because obviously it's a it's a mirror matchup men-at-arms is the norm with opening yeah how if what determined how quickly you add that range because sometimes players will opt for farms some players will opt for a very early archery range yes so it depends yes of course that's my answer it depends on what well I can hear Debbie back there by the way well I mean it very much depends on how the like if you look at her right now his map is sort of very safe in a couple of like in 30 seconds this map is gonna be super safe max did take back the Sheep by the way so in his case a range isn't like super necessary to drop immediately like as a follow-up if he say he loses two minerals for a range isn't gonna be that crucial for him but if you look at the Max's map if he loses the mint Unsworth Oh what was that sorry the Hera was trying to get in the micro nerd yeah so if you try to if you like if max looses the minimus warlike loses all alarms and there's two or three left for Hera a follow-up range for him very quickly would be kind of not necessarily could also add some alarms to fend it off but it will be sweet I'm going to deal with if he actually like loses his whole and early my arms army because his map is too open and vulnerable from every angle yeah I think the big thing is as both eagles are fighting at the same time this would be very close I think the big thing is how the first engagement goes if you have more man-at-arms I think you can get away with maybe adding the farmers first yeah it depends a lot on how you want to follow up as well like if you want to have the better economy or if you want to get the unit's out on the map really fast yeah yeah makes sense well Harris coming forward he did kill Max's Eagle some max is unaware of where the units are max is running forward now this is where Max's map could really hurt him he also didn't Scout Hera much as well right so hair is fully walled max didn't scout that now he is he has his villagers walled in on the gold and building the archery range but but Hera could catch him out possibly to be fair Herod barely scouted max as well so yeah into darkness right now and about the e to town center he sees it immediately though but I like Harold's movement here he knew kind of I think he knew where Maxis really liked so we're going so he kind of yeah avoided them because he knows he's safe at home so it makes sense for him to just avoid and try to attack max where we can and it's gonna pay off because he's about the berries yes a max runs away I would expect a quick ball here yet there we go and he has to bring his men-at-arms back I did add the archery range nice and early so we'll have an archer and he added an additional man-at-arms so I mean this is Hera is sitting pretty behind all of this right because the the wall off and the fact that max didn't have any defensive military yeah Hera's looking like a super smooth now you can see it on this town Stern as well yes about six farms over here max is that his farms as well but I think Harris gonna like it's gonna be a super smooth game from him prayer on from here on because he's controlling actually he's choosing where to fight at the moment and that's not gonna change for the next couple minutes yeah exactly that what you'll see from pro players is when they realize they're outmatched on the front we'll just buy time yeah in fact in the recent ECL game sort of did a great job of that in the 2v2 just buying dealt time in the one game where they slum but here hair is doing the same thing so just run away and even even sacrifice that one man at arm and yeah this is good stuff very good stuff yeah this is all dealing to max as well next has to send his ostriches and use them at home now while Hera can just totally like he's making archers as well but he's doing a blacksmith before a second range so that's also an economy sort of focused yes he's not going heavy on military yet yeah I think he really likes man-at-arms into 1 1 range blacksmith and Castle I don't know if you have a preference on that I know it all depends but Hera does that an awful lot okay well I don't I mean look as I'm about to say I'm gonna send it depends a lot this series does yeah yeah yeah of course it always does so yeah like it depends on how your map is like in Max's situation I definitely would add a second range before my blacksmith because you know arm account to be able to control the game very much because it's never like let's be honest it's real bad especially that yeah yeah so he needs that armor to to be able to control the game well in her situation I really see why he added blacks me first I'm just playing it safe and calm at home this economy is looking very much better than like a lot better than Max's as well at the moment so yeah especially given how the minute arms opening played out as well it's a very smooth and the straightforward game from here at the moment do you think I'm just comparing the farming numbers and whatnot also with capture age I know you don't have it up there's a way to see the food amounts per minute so Harrah's is 270 and Max is at 200 um but Hera I might may be getting a little bit too aggressive right now but do you think that Eagles are possible for either player at this stage and makes sense to go into crossbow but that could be more dangerous as castle age goes on think with the opening here I don't think it makes sense to go Eagles for Herod doesn't for sure because next to us forms alive but it could be a transition forecast players but I don't see anyone doing it I think Neeson hair as well as being active with his archers right now is because he saw that the archers of Max didn't have fetching so he feels like he can okay I can just run around and do some cost my little time damage some units here and there yep he's doing a great job of that right now max is still just sitting at home he's making towers he's taking stone as well because he doesn't feel safe you can see how it's one of the bottom part of his map as well yeah yeah just a really a bit tricky game to play for the max because he's never gonna be able to feel comfortable or safe at his base well he what he really needed was just to scout earlier and to win that first engagement the fact that Hera had those that three or four minutes to himself at Max's base was huge granted max probably wouldn't have been able to do all that much damage at Harrah's base because of the wall off on this left side but I think that it hurt max so much that he didn't have any type of momentum and he gave her all that time yeah for sure and you can look at the food councillor and those well Harris to clicking up while the max is still I mean max has to cut some cut corners he has to not cut corners pretty much Hera could cut corners and Max is investor I'm not a mining camp on stone that's a hundred would have been farms could have been an archery range could have been more units so he's like I have to take his extra proportions to feel safe and although that's that also digs in on your calling me yeah and and for hair it's been the easiest game of his life so far thing is being right now yeah exactly this is exactly what you want and I I think the one criticism I've had of hair in the past is that he can almost be a little bit too active with his army at times and like there's initial three archers for example but he ran away from the tower he used them when max didn't have fletching and then he quickly ran back so he's not been wasteful at all pretty solid yeah I mean being too active I wouldn't ever say that's a negative thing but I guess I guess there's more yeah to two balls he may be two yeah yeah yeah yeah but he's playing very well so far Max is doing what it like this connects to be really snowballing already maxed only has seven arches there and Hera can really quite this even uphill yes as long as Hera doesn't make any big mistakes oh holy castle age faster mmm it's kind of felt like this is just a matter of time after the clean build that hair has had so Harris plays super safe now he doesn't want to dive in yet either because I think it gets to be up to casters faster as well so he's just playing super safe right now max still is only a 1 range so production-wise yeah hera is always gonna produce him here as well it's looking really really rough for max at the moment yeah and and O'Hara is out of the second barracks I guess he's in a position to to possibly mix in something else because he'll be so far ahead but I wasn't really expecting that I was expecting crossbow bot can maybe ballistics and then she sees kind of like the age of conquerors meta yeah the second barracks is strange to me as well I don't really see the reason for it right now because when you have these army numbers as well Eagles are gonna be effective until you have the 1015 of them yeah yeah it's very strange for me but it's diving in right now and left side will head straight towards Max's wood and this can already be my prediction coming true man yeah I mean max didn't back the map didn't do us any favors I don't think it was the boldest of predictions I think if the players would have been in different positions you probably would have had just gone with the map but I mean what else can i analyze or predicts from yeah exactly the sieve matchup but it's Aztecs and true there's not much else right it's time to be one heck of a comeback for max now I think because if your hair is playing so safe sniping bills and he's not diving in he's just taking damage wherever you can and this is absolutely the right approach right now that's good work this is a little bit too like he doesn't have to fight between tower town center against ours liveth calm confident here now yeah well the Eagles are here Eagles won't contribute all that much to the fights just yet I do have the first armor upgrade but once their Eagle warriors and get chainmail that's when they're really useful but Hera eras doing everything right he's not diving in he realizes he has a big lead will extend that lead the longer he stays here you're very good at this just just keeping it and army alive and and then Matt growing behind you know the one one of the first things I've heard I heard after I started watch this was dr. too was if they were heads like get further ABS that's pretty much look at what the statement Boston it makes so much sense right why I try to go for kill you can just get further ahead and be in any better position well I think I think that's probably I don't know how long ago you heard that or four really changed that you played but that's pretty much how you do it in Age of Empires 2 and you play like you'll take small advantages that add up to win yeah I mean it's very rarely like you very rarely go super all-in it's just just a bunch of small wins kind of what Hera's doing right now I'm not I don't agree with this decision you shouldn't have chased army there the town center was there up for grabs he could've just used two eagles to someone out to crossbows and they killed all the villagers building a counselor so play from Hera there but still I mean he's in a great spot 10 village elite instead of doing one TC though so seems like an all-english play in that regard the gnome that yes well against tatto even at the ecl finals it was a game where tatto and lower economy and full all in in max looked like he was super behind but somehow i was able to boom and just slowly climb his way back in the game this is oh sorry i guess that's what he's like a before right now as well yeah I mean and Hera's almost giving him more of a way back into it right if Hera would have gone for crossbows and ballistics and then T C's he would have a bigger eco lead he probably would have done a similar amount of damage he still at this teach workshop goes up its trouble for max but I think that Hera's decision to go for the two barracks has slowed down his eco and it's possibly max his way back into the game that was still very far behind yeah that's the thing Harris putting himself in a position now where he has to do damage yes like look behind this it doesn't an extra Townsend of course if it kills 15 villagers it's all fine all worth it but yeah pretty much putting himself in a spot where if he doesn't do the necessary damage now he might suddenly be like equal an economy and even behind yeah yep well that siege workshops gonna be tough for max to deal with I imagine he should probably make a few always making man-at-arms longswords okay well it makes sense cuz Harris possible numbers are very low now if he even managed to trade those off and suddenly know what she's doing yeah exactly then suddenly those long swords are gonna be very very effective run away with them Wow depends on the mango right with her good attack grounds and enough Eagles but still be very good hair is hair Zico is still so much stronger yeah for sure I mean hair are still in the Mesa stuff yeah no question about that it's almost one of those if you're in Max's shoes and he do end up losing this game you say okay well I was destined to lose that game after a feudal age but I did very well and Hera didn't kill me off as fast as he should up so maybe it it almost gives you some confidence going into Game two and three could be yeah I mean yeah of course you feel I mean but you're still gonna feel like okay I just there was no chance for here and it's not about feeling either way even if you die at all it's not a good feeling either I would say but I mean he's listening ass playing gold now he doesn't really have access to any gold anymore it's looking very close to the end yeah feels over now it's very easy for a caster to say oh just put a positive spin on losing you know yeah but then then when you're in the game it's it's very different yeah I think if you look at Harris economy as well of course it's spending all the gold but yes a lot of farms you can just idle yeah like stop Eagle production for two minutes and he's coming up to in this one yeah one TC play if some acts is continuing to try now but it's it's over thirty villagers for him he has more idols than Hera does and Hera has 56 villagers Game two will be one of the home Maps for max if the game actually ends he's he's on three T C's so he's trying to boom and hold somehow probably this loose constantly losing one militant heroin litter there so that the Dutch account isn't really growing he's trying to like make use of what he can with the crossbows that's kind of what he asked but yeah he's realizing it's over and calling it alright so Vipers prediction was correct the boldest prediction ever scores 1 0 for Hera now they chose home Maps and I believe it was a crop Alice and hideout for max so that will be one of those two maps will be the next game and now I imagine that you will probably be able to give us some insight on the civilizations more insight than I'd be able to provide because you've you're very good at saving sips not using your best saves in Game one and two and making sure that in the future games you'll be good yeah I think I tend to do that quite a lot but I would say like for example during NEC I kind of spent all my gooses immediately there so that yeah it's kind of a different formula there and it almost came back and bit me but because Ted was meeting making quite a comeback in NEC - yeah yeah um so hidden pick no repeat right so what yes which was the map max had again so I know his home maps right and hideout yeah so I guess we're going for hideout right now yes it should be hideout okay it should be hideout yeah and if that's the case I think sibs like Spanish Mayans I've even seen Celts sometimes you go man at arm forward with Celts well yeah but that's usually I mean Aztecs is a popular choice as well and yeah else can do well against a sticks I think though we're gonna see me so severe Mayans of course very likely I would see a sticks is possible as well I think harab most likely Aztec Mayans but I think max might throw in a curveball there and might pick something else especially maybe something like that I don't know but like safest choice is usually our Aztecs Mayans etc here yeah well mines would be a strong pick because necessarily one for the other maps that will come up Harrah's one home map is Cup which is the the special map from hidden cup two and then the other one is El Dorado can I expect El Dorado might be just a Chinese war - yeah - like me yeah if it's the Eldorado with its serve water outside yeah there's no water on the outside it's the one without that Chinese should definitely be the cool to soother okay yeah so I think I think either a Meza war or like you said max would be the type of player to maybe switch it up but thank Mayans Wars probably my guess and there's been some real classic games on this man I remember way back I'm curious if you remember this I think I was just watching youtube videos it was Aztecs vs. Mayans it was you against mister yo I think you were Aztecs mm-hmm yo was Mayans and I think at some point you ended up going for Jaguar warriors I remember that game I know I played see John I think I miss each other Eagles yes yep that was performed at that'll squirms as well yep check this out Incas god it's so strange well that's so mind gaming yeah it's really sick a Hara expected the Mayans oh I have to update the score on my stream sorry guys so he expected the Mayans and I guess I don't know if max was expecting the counter pick but this thing remind Amy that's the thing we have no idea my academics actually expected him to go counter Mayans and then count yet again I mean Incas is good to hear either way even if you run up against - or Aztecs you still have a fighting chance yeah but yeah I mean if this was intentional that he expected goth to counter mines then this is really clever by max yeah and then save mines for later on you know what's interesting I saw Hara doing practice matches first MBL last night he was playing MDL on Cup MBO chose Franks and Hara choose Mayans which I thought was kind of yeah because I didn't Oh blame mole max is stealing the boar how are we looking really starts in this game there's I mean there's one restart per best-of-seven I believe so this would be a you have you have Goths so you have no eco bonus and Incas should be favored both economically and and well pretty much until imp I'd say even him so you have slingers and exactly what else does both have yeah like that's that's still it's it's not ideal for Goths at that stage but it's probably their best opportunity best time but anyways back to my point it was weird how he chose Mayans because I don't recall anyone else choosing Mayans for that during the tournament yeah no - seems like a very strange pick from for random tips okay covers them up with the water in the middle right and like yes in there okay yeah yeah that's yeah mines there if that's a intentional pick that's super strange to me yeah it's just a thought because I know that his other home map is Cup and he didn't choose Mayans here but no sign Herot he has not called re you know what I think I realized okay this City matchup is kind of messy like screwed anyway so why waste to restart here if next match sure he might have a more extra but the saves won't change right so I think it makes sense to not call restart no matter what had opening is yeah that's a good point so we'll see man hideouts like it's like arena in the sense that there's walls except it's just palisade walls so the option to go forward in towers is there a player share a wood line paper we're gonna have to get to know each other still actually actually starts cuz I need to be a bird or something so it's five minutes in to predict the winner oh look at the hell yeah Hera's doing the what was that you get a farm outside of his base I think if he did a farm outside of his base he's scouting for his board he might yeah he know that his bore is lamed he probably doesn't know yeah I didn't realize yeah he's placing the farm there for scale Dan he doesn't know yeah I predict max to win this game okay we're just gonna see just how big like so far the city mismatches and the map mismatches have been pretty insane like Game one max had the better map or sorry worst map so you went with the hair choice and then here max he definitely has the better Civ Herot he could have looked brilliant you know tatto looks brilliant when he does he's counter picks he's done it times in the past but he kind of looked dumb when he picked Goths and you you end up not countering your opponent's Civ well no it was hidden cup one word and B I'll pick cough to counter my mind don't even don't even bring that up mad that still makes me so upset to this day like I don't know masterpiece or disaster piece right yeah exactly I was I remember because we knew it was we all thought it was you at MBL and I believe that was a best-of-seven right I think the final score was four - yeah and MBL had so many good saves available and he chose Goths on Arabia if it was hideout it would make a lot more sense because you have so much space between each other but you you chose Mayans one forward - lamed him and finished him off real early okay so both are going up to fuel is very fast like it's futile egde gameplay pretty much with weather up yes max descending foliage is forward so he's definitely looking to apply some pressure I expect hours made my norms you go yes and I think Harold with us as well that okay he knows he Alain de Boer he knows he's behind economy economically so yeah very likely that max will put on pressure so we did follow up with a faster fueling himself the question is just what can you will do he does have a safe map tow safe call safe stone safe food obviously yeah all he's going forward himself this one I did not expect he also did not see Max's villagers max did spot Harrah's barracks but he did not see a flag on the barracks he also is not seeing the villagers now so this this could get really interesting and this could be quite good for Hera because he's already creating the militia whereas max is going for the forward barracks yeah Harris making look I always like to golf to delay the middle arms until I'm foolish because they're cheaper than yeah Hera is going for the earlier ones door opening taking them all in darkish and for this situation is going to be very good because obviously is gonna have the numbers very fast but if max does a fast blacksmith here and a fast always going for range range okay yeah a lot of people lately have been playing the Inca with full upgrades on the militia and yes also using villagers to fight a lot then yeah yeah I've experimented a lot with the build actually because I have to face Noboru like I spoke to him a few days like right when I came back and he said he'll play me so I have actually been experimenting with the build order it's almost impossible to go for three men at arms and all the four villagers with blacksmith you tell top of it it's well it's tough right you can make three-minute arms but if you do four and send like more than four or five bills is rough for me anyways but this back to the actual game that this is quite good for hair I think that the forward barracks its I just don't really get it right it's better to make the barracks at home so you can start the the militia production and now Hera has the cheap man-at-arms so he's working on walling up the range and he's all over the max problem is the one Max has two arches out he's also doing my own stuff great I mean yeah I should send this off again but obviously the great yeah this start was great for Hera yeah I don't know if my rounds follow-up now is gonna be the way for her to go it probably needs to add a range and some squirms and but obviously we're looking really good from Hera for her compared to how the opening would you know what I find interesting about hideout is Max's position is extremely important because in the event that he can no longer attack Hera or that Herod is going to threaten him he can just wall this and then he has all the time a world and this is an important side as well right because of all those extra golds that are out there you can see now Max's he's not gonna apply more pressure yeah Hera is already made of money cameron stone so he's like preparing to defend the axe is just gonna fall back now probably economic follow up and just make some arches and i would say there's a good good choice but max over sits down for bills just now which is quite a lot for this stage of yeah but if you just transition Stratocasters now and makes this a pro long game then there should be a good spot as well yeah and hera could have possibly overreacted a bit going to the stone because he was expecting towers good on him to go off of stone and go to wooden other resources after realizing there will be no towers some surprised hair is making arches in its firm stone like his he's on a pressure massive open extends to be to get out to twist cams yeah fetching in them then switch into arches that you want to follow with arches it doesn't that way better food eco though looking at the farm count of course max has villages on tier but farming is the way to go at this station in game of course the deer feel good but farming is how you judge how good the economy is at the moment now he's Incas man they build their farms faster come on true true yeah yeah I'm not sure how max is planted fault is up sending three villagers just wall yeah it's going to storm well the whole thing so here tell yeah sorry we're not used to cast them together so Oh mom but to send three villagers forward after you just sent three villagers back is a bit weird ah definitely yeah those three boats could have just welded off themselves yeah or one villa could have stayed and placed a stone wall and it would have been up by now max still has a way bigger Armand and hair Hera's being kind of a mini a stretching max is doing it right now but still I think that arm is very easily lost at this stage is our position as well there's no way from this shape this should be read for for the mix yeah maybe back to the early forms for Hera he gained the economy but now he's losing military yeah that hair will lose all of us man-at-arms max will have quite a few archers I guess this is where it's good that Harrah's stone and gold is protected and not against the palisade walls yeah see max immediate as well after it took that engagement okay he's like okay maybe I'm not done making army and yeah gate immediately so he's now probably considering making more units and maybe apply more pressure as well and there's a villager on the other side and she will wall there so this is the the whole this is one of the biggest strategies on hideout I know with Mayans you tend to see like like sometimes rush fast castle in the plumes but man at arm tower civilizations are very good on this because you gain the position yeah this is like max against the dream situation now he's able to apply some pressure while being untouched at home yeah untouched so we can boom freely while trying to put on pressure and Hera will never know like what's gonna be enough to defend you'll always have to be thinking what doesn't need more army thus you need more Mangano's doesn't need more dis that so it's if not unlikely that Hera might take enough stone to get a castle up and do house calls obviously that's a huge investment and yeah that might suddenly force her into a situation where he has to go all-in Catholic so the decisions they make from now on is Condor interesting yeah and this this will be tough fight for max to take at the moment it does have the walls up but with the skirmishers in there can be difficult it might be like the archers yeah yeah just picking up the scary you need still to say and no I'm like those archers don't matter for max anyway he stonewalled Hera can't do anything to ya kills every single Archer loses his archers and both players are on the way to castle eight yeah Hera he almost the safe approaches to make military to get that castle up but then max could just you for tc4 3tc boom right and so either way it feels like hara is is damned if he does damned if he doesn't almost because of Max's safe position and even early HUS girls if they were to get through might not be all that successful because max is Incas and you can make the slingers that's exactly the point the second Maxie's a cast drop on the stone walls or something you can also just stone whoa quickly behind and add to three ranges and these should have enough evidence to the thing that could work though would be a full house call with Magna no support fingers are very weak against C Tunis Magnus corpse whatever so with the production time as slingers also their fire rate isn't that high so if Hera gets that snowball going and this thing this might not be as good of a camera so you might anticipate yeah especially with the range being forward you take out the range max has to build more at home maybe max will over invest into economy and not be prepared for them yeah exactly I like what max is doing here though he's like he's leaving a villager inside on purpose on the bottom side so he might do some stuff but he might be spotted here I'm not sure if he was watching that he was envisioned but yeah it looks like hey I was not paying attention so max has a successful he's a successful sneak yeah that's a novel isn't it yes so this kind of reminds me of max and hidden cup actually at the time I didn't know who he was but he did a similar thing walled up snuck villagers through he made a monastery and a siege workshop now he was Aztecs so it was easier to justify the monks but well see it's kind of weird like what did what does he get out of this it's not like a sneak building would accomplish that much unless he's to snag a relics yeah I don't know the thing he's making a monster and sees will show up on the top side okay I guess it's okay cuz they're safe behind the wall so you can use them to defend yeah what's the purpose of this outpost I guess he just wants vision yeah a little confused now but like I still find is still safe it's not like is he's taking damage for anything now would you have gone immediate 3t C's in Max's position instead of adding the the immediate monastery and siege workshop very very likely yeah that's kind of what I expect and and I think you would have done the exact same as Harry here balance out your eco so you have the castle and two new TCS I really like Harry's economy now this is pretty strong yeah Harris like economy voice is looking right now yeah I would even add probably a fourth TC before I added the castle as well but I mean the cast actually is gonna be perfect timing I think accustoming is about to come in I mean he sees the castle so he knows it's there but yeah max is kind of like student a little bit of everything right now it's yeah strange he's strange but I think like this can be the max sometimes you know he can play a bit out of the box oh he wants to wall here with this Vil interesting he really wants to map control yeah it's not a bad idea and he's grabbing the relics as well on the left side so potentially Max's been in the wood for at least four relics here we have was his great what a long game so I think max is very much thinking long term right now yeah has four Eagles with forging and Maggie Nell and we'll have a monk join in on the party soon now Hara is kind of blind to all of this he doesn't know what's going on he doesn't know the monasteries there he doesn't know the monks route doesn't know the sieges out does not know he's being walled in on the other side either so he might find out in a second I mean he said yeah he probably will find out now obviously but the Eagle is there yeah oh he sees the evil meeting room Neelu sister mom careless can be really unfortunate I think you should ohh okay okay saved yeah this villager is not gonna be able to warm up but this is also now terrible know that there's a village inside there yeah oh he's not gonna stop looking until he found it time time to uh to wall her in right there only wasn't the monk there and convert that's that's a good point but hair is conflicted now because he really wants the relic now i think i think that hustle are you serious ass girl line-of-sight is awful yeah i always ringing about this well he could I'm tracking this is on yet oh that's checking the game Wow but the monk is still coming down and he should see it now that's a straight dude this is such this just reminds me okay first all both monks from max just got picked off which is really bad and look at these buildings he's thinking about placing in the corner of of Harrah's base on the left and barracks yeah it's very strange it's yeah it's very random I mean he's sneaking the relic as well left side so it's still looking good on that part obviously here I got the bottom relic which potentially could be walled off earlier but max still looks like it's been out for relics oh he doctor I don't I wouldn't even show that relic at this point or show that monk I was just there I was gonna lose the monk there was a mistake penance instead just forget about all we didn't even get the conversion Wow I think well that makes sense I just try to stay out of range so the husk awesome gold straight home but you say that's a lot of money so I think this is its and it's so random I know and when most pros place buildings there's an order to it yeah it just feels like he doesn't care but he did this exact thing in a lot of the games he played verse you as well in the finals do you remember the the gold rush game it was Malians verse yes that's slabs right yeah so random I remember him building buildings everywhere Harris reaction is to cease workshops she also to really strange well he will click up now yeah but I don't know if he needs two of them unless he's considering like early bombard cannon or something I guess he just wants a lot of maintenance to counter the Spears max is looking like I wants to go all-in cast their share but Hera is all about Amir so I'm not sure how much success this is gonna have he's doing mods more Eagles players live it of everything it's a very very strange gameplay Mercedes towering Harris woodland as well from the middle so that's all yeah and a second layer of storm on the right side this is like it's doing everything it's so strange he even knows the mom cuz there's a hill place more stone walls on the side I mean at least he seems to recognize that Hera might be up but I really like I really feel like immediate 3tc boom would have would leave him even with Hera with economy and then he could get to imp and get to the slingers yeah but he's not thinking like that he's going for something different when I'm curious about now is how do actually sting is do against castle a shots cause I don't think I've ever seen them much so I'm not sure how you might be able to try it well enough that he's still gonna stay Ivan I mean he still has the stone walls on the side so only way for her to get through is to break them or cut pedometers so he does have Redemption so he can convert the mag Annelle yeah it's also a really good foresight by max he knows that a counter Chris thing is right now is the Magnum oh good one HP oh my god that's exactly what max needed Oh any micros away Oh No yeah you can see how fragile those things are so we see really slow as well yes your armor so they died - one shot maximum now though super strange game but I think it's O'Hara could have converted the veil on the right side if you got that I will show up there to drop barracks on that side that would have been so important for me yeah max cannot let that happen and there is a relic there for Mac so it will be for if he sees that I believe he knows it's there no he doesn't know it's there okay castle for Hera on the stone wall I'm curious what Terra's approach is gonna be to counter the Stingers is it gonna be on assure is he gonna be score bot Michaela maybe hand cannons all knowledge or yes that's really good as well because he can also cut through the forest in the middle man I like this choice remember you said max was gonna win yeah you play like this I can't blame for how he's playing yeah okay well Molly would be okay yeah Harrah's position is pretty decent your one relic isn't the worst all the skills are back at all the mega nose or is he let's see how my god dude oh my god that would be the the doubt of all doubt castles there yeah wow we actually didn't even kill us in windowless room mm-hmm Harrah's getting all the good trades here yeah now Andres completed so if he wants he can just cut around the walls elite Huss girls on the way and Max is scrambling up some archery ranges and his base but he'll have no mobility slingers are so slow and there's no choke point once hair gets past the walls so that HUS girls can do dances around them biggest issue from Max's Wella it doesn't have ballistic so we still haven't actually seen stingers connected yes great yeah doing a cast now it's quite a desperate castle oh my god a lot of damage in the house costs oh my god that scared me actually holy cow a really important thing as well now is Harris gonna get control of the monastery be relics yeah that's a good point they should get that castle up now I don't think Hera can push in past the the castle for max max still needs his upgrades as you said buddy sees castle very secure he's also rating here a little bit but that that won't bother God's scouts can spam the house girls to clean that up see Maxie still has he always has one villager lying around the corner somewhere behind there's one other just a little bit of parents though if this game carries on for 30 40 minutes then that feels you might sudden become super important [Music] yeah it's exciting but it's also not something you should necessarily have yeah that's kind of a max thing but that just stems from these other weird decisions from earlier like how all these slingers are just sitting in the corner like they're not contributing anything right now oh there's ballistics poster post about to break the pallasite old man look how fast it died Wow okay stingers are still pretty good but again colleges they die in one shot so you have to be really cover the question now is how does max count of the homages box race well I guess so do the nine range yeah yeah you got one printing already just got it so so with block printing I think he could do that but I think the issue is Goths have so much more mobility it's still not easy to use just lingers and because it's so slow Kelsey has that I'm still hopeful that's nice yeah population wise it's not looking too bad yes the villages needs yes to the attack he needs so but not just about can't do this out I'm not taking the terrible straits yeah but the max lose those relics that's huge that means hair will have four he really never expected hair to get through he figured the stone walls to be enough yeah but Harrah's boom was so much better that was also like a weird max didn't have to do that weird better to barracks to auction range monastery yeah right if he just went in that he's in three four minutes earlier and then he has to wall still yes the relic still he has to late game still right now he put himself in a position where I mean he still has a really good fighting chance to get me wrong still a lot of gold as well left in his face that he actually hasn't scouted yet so oh my god yeah the gold to two golds to the north and then Harrah's taking one which max also is unaware of and these slingers are in the left corner but they're kind of trapped here I expect to see a big shot soon with that Audigier I like this starting to add ramps as well now so oh it is Oh choice good shots micro so far okay I guess it doesn't have the upgrade Wehrman best thing is don't have minimum range anymore yeah that's true Andy and sling I think it's called yeah exactly so yeah what's nice let's get on top you can see how those thing is dying two shots they get to shot by the way Pascoe's look at Max's farms on the right man is he a bit rusty okay there we go he's filling in the gaps at a castle and the hill was really peculiar I feel like a castle more to the right of this I guess to the north of his main base no I guess if he knew the gold was there it'd be much better that is such a weird castle it doesn't you see anything yeah has been confusing both of us yeah that is so strange they're switching the Cavalier I guess I like it those he asked he can't afford it so he's making all the stables at home though I guess it wasn't closer to the base of the max but max well really have any counters ready for this well he's cutting through right so the Cavalier could run right in true max is just building tower after tower after tower on that wood line just can't push out the he realizes that anytime he tries to push Hera Hera will have the options to counter him max keeps doing mantra because as well so I guess they became micro perfectly like 40 months to recover there's not a problem yeah kind of unlikely got skid plate boarding right yes okay nothing are you yeah you're 80% sure that's pretty much more I check a check I think they don't give him that way they don't no they don't okay I mean the only thing that I know is it's very uncommon to ever transition into cavalier as Goths so yeah this is one of the few situations where that always to come to you max is actually prepared for this DC stables don't think you've seen any sign of stables or whatsoever so this is really good there yeah for starter prediction by minutes he's almost maxed out yeah yeah so yeah oh and still not like you know of course hair is looking at an amazing position he should not lose this game but yeah once Incas get full army up and running that arm is really hard to counter oh my god Hera has a TC in the North now where the gold is max does see there there's a gold for him and he might see that extra TC but this is going to be such a tough fight for him to take but with monks as you said you know monks could change a lot here oh nice move from Hera to delete that yeah courier season nears chain armor nice and all that prison needs this is a harem might be spending too much time here honestly yeah may be doing too much he's trying to cut at the same time oh my god max converted the Audigier that was cutting through and it turned into manga no that's cute yeah that bug hasn't been fixed yet really good I am max as well okay he has two months by the wood line and he has outpost and our towers and vision so he will always see that coming so you can always convert look at the score now it's just 1000 difference it was almost three thousand just two minutes ago yeah well these are some very strong options right these are the options where incas should beat Goths but I think max lost the position and he lost the relics those are huge things Hera had both the extra golds or has both the extra gold still and for relics that's not that wasn't in the game plan that's not what max wanted sure I mean her eyes put it like certainly like taking control in the positioning just another castle and he'll know but now Cavaliers coming in but max already has over 20 commutes so like have their switches also just like a few minutes too late if this was happening five minutes ago max we've been overrun right now yeah those come there don't really have too much to say here so so let me ask you this Viper obviously this is a kind of a complicated fight for Hera to justify taking but because of his position I I really feel like he should try and distract max use his mobility a bit more and he's doing that now this is good yeah he's doing a good job now likes putting out the hot spots but obviously with those gates a great case by max dosa hostas are actually trapped now there's suddenly four girls dead but again this does open the room for Cavaliers Ronin Max is heating up his own dresses they're all probably gonna die here on swingers are not that strong where's Cavalier there's a lot of them for Hera this is plenty of great apparel on the right side Harris fighting which become like commutes with his huh scoffs he doesn't find anything as this he's getting gave great trades everywhere not Wow that was perfect he's killed every single trebuchet he also could get a strong surround on the slingers that's not what max wanted that should have sent the slingers to chase the HUS girls Wow I know 180 pop four hero 154 Max and Max will lose his capital but it doesn't have the relics that was a great move by her obviously max should have split his army differently there I think he had the honour to defend this he just used a computer on in this actual moment so of course may have for the house was coming in the right side cavalier husband left side treads it's really hard to actually manage everything perfectly yeah you want something as quickly as possible I think since cameos were faster he probably sent them for that reason but now now Hera just can't make the mistake he made earlier and he needs to put his foot on the gas not wait push all these buildings this is the moment to end the game here right now and he's also still banking one resource that he can non-stop produced though is adding three more stables in the face of Maksim he's certainly going for it good right now yeah tons of gold tons of food for relics I just don't see it especially because Hera has that the civilization which can span faster than then Incas are any civilly yeah Hera has to be careful here though like now max has amassed an army that can actually defend this so if hair just keeps like sending in units non-stop like just batter point them into Max's face he's just gonna sudden start trading awfully and I mean already Max has almost the same military count yeah and he's what do you think about heavy scorpion years for a Hera yeah I mean I think it's hard for him to justify with his mob space but I think like 10 heavy scorpions would really help against slingers and cameos yeah heavy spoken so is good in that regard I mean he's not come here so yeah I think halogen was the right choice scorpions without you could maybe just of adding it now yeah that's what I meant yeah like maybe makes it a few but but I don't know if he has they calling me to just fit right now yeah I mean max is fighting back Wow crazy man the auditors have been focused down the bomb word cans are exposed if max is able to get a few months out he could convert them for himself although I didn't yeah my old heroines send out looking very good for Hera yeah he's sending in like one that one unit at a time and that's the a way to do this he needs to amass army and take effective trades but now he's sending in five Huskers at a time and that's just not a positive way from the trailer home I think his eco is off because he has 4,000 wood and he has no food and I know he's queuing up a lot of food units but I think if Hera were to build some more farms with those Lumberjacks then he could produce a bit more yeah yeah he has over 60 farmers yeah so maybe it's just goth problems yeah but he should I mean yeah it makes sense add maybe 10 20 more farms that occurs but now this is max Max's problem it is the gold and her ass full control and access data roses over there luckily those rooms just have a lot of armors they don't don't die that fast but he needs to take control at Max's yeah and not to mention on the other side hair is looking to spam from there so I'll all benefit of the map control they a max through way that map control the only reason hair is able to do this is because the map he gains it early in my hair is now maxed out again so it's looking really promising again is having on the right side max has no gold income and all of them X's units cost cold so yeah yeah it really feels like it's just a matter of time max is doing a great job holding on I think what max has shown us is just how strong incas can be in him against Goths yeah if it would have been 50/50 on the relics 50/50 on the extra cold it's 50/50 in the position Incas would be so much stronger but his castle age play is what put him behind and life has been awkward for him ever since it's really weird yeah yeah I don't understand the decision from max to do that heavy cast age the stray ash casters play like I'm sure he regrets now as well he knew that he could just brought this to me earlier she had the relics he had the map console he didn't have to do there that was an amazing fight for Maxie cameos already saying that there's a look at the KD oh man it will be tough for her to finish this off max shouldn't have gold to produce them no this thing he only has two castles as well only one nearby the fight yeah the thing is he's getting a little bit and look at the score again just hit him so close again setting pikemen as well no I mean Mexico has won in China voted against reducers yeah this is cent maybe could sell maybe maybe if pair is buying a little bit of food he could sell sell some of the excess food sell some of the excess wood Hera trying to ran the castle on the right side with you know cap grams yes worth it [Music] Wow Kimmie ups are nuts I very i I think I've only seen this type of a fight two or three times with cameos versus girls but they're pretty beastly but as you said it's always the lack of resources for max yeah he doesn't have the Reds and it doesn't have enough castles to produce the canoes yeah paradise needs to trade effectively enough Tommy can I mean mexican-american nothing much it could easily justify going champions I don't know how much more champions would would do against cameos I think has imagined had come near this would have been the way for shouting ray he has the ranges there so it doesn't have chemistry though that's the issue I guess you know what was interesting so recently at the land a lot of us would be in the back room we had a casters and players tent and so you know we're all watching the games and the players kept asking it what's the score difference yeah what's the score difference like how much is the team's score difference Hey all of a.m. in particular kept asking about the squirrel a I know that it's important I know people look to it I was surprised at just how much you guys look at it and you even brought that up in our commentary a few times like immediately after Max's good flight you're like old with the score but yeah I mean it's good in the end yeah well I would say in want in team games more so than one one yeah I'm game if there's a 500 difference in score when team game then it's looking rough already yeah that's the sports post-imperial yeah max also did keeps with arrow sticks I did Sierra slits earlier I just didn't think it would really be that important him he's raiding with chemi Oaks and Pikes he built one barracks and he's spamming infantry units like this reminds me so much of max Radhika I mean the decisions leading up to all this really really weak and unlike the max but the sneaked buildings man this is ridiculous yeah it's cute but right now it's looking very dire I mean yes zero gold I mean you can keep selling resources forever of course but he's never gonna get the his mission pretty much would be to dry hair completely of gold but Hera can still mine a lot of gold and he still has poor Alex right so yep max needs to survive god knows how long and then also be able to find a way to combat for relics whenever all the gold is gone man this is gonna be a rough stream for me cuz cuz I'm what are we three hours in and already I'm like max resigned like I'm getting tired resigned so we can get the next game and be re-energized he has he has the composition to stay alive for a long time I just don't eat he's in a position we're doing actually win me a most popular okay yeah you did for a second but thank when he kills Harrah's villagers it just gives Hera more pop space for military as well I mean half is Farmiga what's in that bottom right corner yeah if max can keep disturbing that I mean hairstyles eighty-five years of it if max can keep disturbing hair see cold and that's also one way to slowly make a comeback oh my god these cameos are chewing up the hussars this is crazy that one range is so good it's insane yeah yeah it's like this would be the one of the biggest throws for Hera but it's it's only possible for max because it Incas its can we you're still training on the top I mean a big tail as well or is that max cannot afford huh buddy really yeah it's really tight man it might be worth it for him to just actually stop making commutes and get that happy rapid yeah yeah he'll burn sperm even then no I think I think since the cami Oakes are much stronger then a pike they would hold their own against huskarla they have held their own against huskers but I think it was just help and sperm hair would either make an immediate switch into champions or HUS girls would do just fine here the Hara is yes Cyril Goldman is Bank he has big units queued up and what is going on here I think it's the farm problem yes so much wood still and he's making I think he's making way too many Hustler here I really understand that the hussar this amount of us or anyway yeah now like that that's fight yeah yeah like why this is look at the score man oh my god did you message them did you say throw this so my prediction will be correct I didn't love it but I predicted it when I view the map and analyze I thought this could happen yeah I'm sure I'm sure that you predicted everything even even the extra barracks in the South Viper yeah is Hara gonna throw this like I'm still very hesitant to say it's possible that Hara could lose this game but this these two villagers in the South could spam enough pikemen into this eco it could give hara problems how many times can you say that you watch the game where we've got us waiting inefficiently like unit quite like cost inefficiently wood is like they're cheap unic well I mean it's like every game well like oh you mean oh you mean what cost yeah yeah yeah I was just talking straight KD yeah you're right like he's like he's making a fuss start an eighty food purpose ER and the hussars are useless against this ah yeah max does nothing it's only there's maybe three skirmishers and then the rest is Pike and cameo Max has more score and population compare all right now oh my god the thing is can max push back all these castles though it seems impossible but what he could do is hold this area for a while and then fight in this cell max cell into that gold no man there's like a thousand gold there this is insane this could not be happening oh my god why is Hera he's playing this like he's Huns how bad air is up good is coming in I'm sure max as well we'll start thinking about siege ramp yeah once it's full trash war sea champ is a pretty good unit yeah well that's that's what you do at this stage of the game is use all of your gold for the seed ramps maybe if you cameo tier there oh my goodness this is insane know what I think Hera did a big mistake as well I think it was over Conference on the game and did you see his castle positioning all forecasts are in the same spot on website his website is completely exposed imagine there's a castle in the middle of those farms yeah damage is never happening Wow and and Max is making scurbs there to counter the hand cannons still I mean Hera has a lot of sperms now which actually complicate things for the max but I think max could just match that with his own sperms and keep sending some can be explored with couriers cameo beer summers not that at six pierce armor yeah stare is the thing though Harrah's for relics he could start mixing in Mebane Olinger here and there yeah Angier is gonna start getting more and more effective but we've said that like in five different ways yeah over the last 30 minutes oh yeah this would be better for her in this way this way this way but it's just not happening he's not winning the game he has the population lead again and he seems to at least be addressing that a raid is beginning in the south but he won't clean that up and but while he is pushing a little bit against max I'm just still waiting for Hera to finally find an answer to finally finish this guy off yeah I mean it's still looking right he's great for Hera yeah Mac has made a tower now on his goals and that keep the Baroness as well I mean that's also helping a lot but Harris yeah get more and better better in trades right now so he's doing a better job now with the usage of his units those discrim addition definitely is gonna help out a lot and he has a bomber cannon as well on the way so I don't see max holding on to this gold for their level yeah Hera is so far ahead at the 45th 50th minute that even though he's lacked with execution he's fine or should be sugar Island yes he should be fun I think that's we need to put the word shoot in there oh my god did you see max sent that one villager he tried to send it to the other corner and place the barracks yeah and it died too huh sorry he just collected there randomly in hopes that it would get there that so has someone Miller in the bottom corner that they could yeah and do something good now there's suddenly a lot of companies on the field again it's like 25 30 companies I'm feeling in and mixed are quite tanky to the instruments yeah now this is where masks which could use some siege right yeah max manages to get Steve gem out in the field as well let's hear Bobby what I see but this curves do one damage every shops who are coming you getting so camera yeah so because what they have seven attack rights actors yep so nice can keep getting some sort of gold incumbent ok great economy she has you can always mix yeah ten companies here twenty communes there in cycles right you'll have to wait ten minutes every time it does it but yeah every time it does it it gets like solar push going so Max's next step is now to figure out how to break buildings how to actually take a position and serum is the way to go they're all the gold is gone by the way except for the relics all those extra golds well no it's art not all the gold I guess Mac still has some but all those extra golds hair has already chewed through and he still hasn't been able to use that skill you know what we might be looking at her in the long run would might be an issue and I was thinking about that as well because max might cut through and start reading that area yeah and I mean next has more map control regarding wood at the moment so of course this is an hour away an hour and a half or two hours away but well it's not okay given how the game is playing up at the moment you're not using caps rage right no can you see how many farms Hera has queued up not cute up but I can flora has already ate a farmers 1989 farmers can he check his mail to see how many farms eight seven eight six hey so he has 800 wood and his its army on the Front's getting to dude that that would control could be coming sooner than you think because max has very close to the wood line and center he's rating in the South hair is only chopping wood in one area that's right next to this other raid max needs at siege I don't Lucy's room do you think it's just lack of gold though because it's the Kami Oaks that helped him win the fights and if you make he tries to make rams as well to be tough no I think it's just that he's like okay still just holding on he knows that he is waiting on the bottom side he's just trying to hold on top and wait on the bottom but I mean he needs to make progress at some point yes and RAM like he needs some things to be able to take back the position to get rid of buildings to get control of an area and see ground especially when there's just a skirt with so many skirts on matters yeah seizure are so amazingly good and have 2030 kameez running next to spicy shrimp that whole area gets wiped so fast yeah I think seed room in the South would be useful as well and just to clean up those buildings take the position kill the TC I really think max should focus his rates a little bit more towards to would Lana para yeah that would suddenly hurt her a lot I think this big thing comes on bottom set as well no and that's something doesn't answer to and more barracks now more barracks I see it in place I don't know where the villager is dude this is crazy it this is ridiculous one hour and twenty minutes in hair is still floating somebody still floating food both players are at 200 populations we thought this game was over well I thought the game balances I'll hair get in the position on the left exactly a long long time ago see mixing an eagle to the bottom side is max now and those seagulls as well they have 9 Pierce armors David I easily at all and he's on the wood line now and on the farms Kara is he's definitely falling apart and I believe that max has the mental edge because max should have been dead a long time ago the Hara he realizes that he's throwing from a very strong position on real Max's that be a little bit too far on top level is wasting a lot of commutes but yes they wasting buddies fighting undercast all downhill that's not how you want to spend your time oops two very precious gold units right move wow this production is insane maxes out producing Hera Hera has 60 hussars queued up 60 hussars queued up why isn't the unity needs just make your own holds at least right but even hounds just like just all that food has been producing huh Sarge you can sell half of it and you can make champions or huskar's or or whatnot max is no I'm sorry max just call me through the middle as well now he's chopped through in the he's making a trebuchet this helps there's Wayne just oh my god max has played this post-imperial game really really well yeah his castle age was quite honestly bad you know I just make it yeah but play it's been insane yeah it's been really really spot on decision-making wise positioning picking his battles rating up it's been really slow fun I think hair is dead the only thing he's making and villagers huh stars and he has to squirm Street up whereas max is making a few cameos here they're skirmishers and full help unless there are somehow changes this composition Hera's economy is like going that it's like about to fall be below 100 villagers yeah and he cannot produce units huh stars are really expensive with food too so it's not like he'll have food to go into husk Arles or champions yeah I don't like us are sure it's a nice food to have to do some raining here and there but yeah it's not supposed to be your main army composition specially all a player that has full helps of full commutes yeah nice boss Prime Minister Wow micro nerd move oh and the helps are in there as well you see no max as well he realizes ok the top spot not important anymore let's Hara have units there I'll push completely we're at the game matters right now this is insane the elves are going to the to the additional farm spots I think Hera after this wave of hussars his population will be 150 he doesn't have eco he can't produce yeah I only have supported four farms right now and SAT idle still trying exclusive casting now next is to oust a football right now being down four to one relics as well very look at these bills from max up against the edge of the map such a max move the thing is they have their income villages they don't die to a single storm they can get running and they'll keep filling the baricza's Wow yeah Hera he's adding more carbs VIPRE but I guess he has some safe farm space on the left but the fact that he doesn't have those farms right now is hurting him because max has the eco he's pushing his killing Lumberjacks era's na mele seen a few onerous again but i'm afraid it's a little bit too late just gonna die right away Wow I think Herod I had like so many possible compositions to go for I can do Hank Enders on Jersey to mix in some state or secret anything but her sir man is that won't be that don't make sense because Incas yet so I could intend to go for yeah I could have said VIPRE what's the worst thing Hera could do here how's the fight for would've been like but hussar skirm and then that's exactly what heretic but like I said it's not a bad unit here but just he's using it as his main army comes yeah that's not it can't be the main arming is Incas Hera is making like 20 husk us now on the topside I not sure it's gonna take out that university very crucial at this point of the game he's also sending all the scones back to talk coming back now yeah I don't know what Harris trying to do here with those he's trying to recover an owl right he's trying to stabilize his eco recover but I think max has gained so much momentum and he is such a better composition these TCS will eventually die and and eventually it will be all blue in the center in hair would just have that northern side era has to enjoy Jacques reform on the left side so his economy isn't all gone he has to in the population she's not he's not dead and out he just needs to really start like focusing and concentrating on the way he takes his fights yep make a job with the repairs and the auditors actually keep those alive and he's queuing up lots of units but I still feel as though while max now is not taking the best fight if you have all the students together would have been better max is kind of running a little bit out of speed you know really pushy and he's getting raided by Hutt's girls yeah Harris made some hot girls he's killing these buildings counter comm McMahon oh my god and you know what changed it HUS girls all of a sudden we see us girls and HUS girls are doing things of both sides but they're gonna run into twenty commutes now Wow oh boy oh boy just kind of good ugly oh is that okay okay there we go that's the address this is we're one hour and thirty minutes in and this is a best-of-seven thank god we're not doing all seven games played I would be wailed schedule might happen anyway yeah it's true okay max is now switching okay he's realizing okay I'm not trading a fishing through the middle anymore I had to clean the top side so he's sending his trebuchet today now is sending his Cubs yes over 40 commutes also might as well so so maybe that was the the long-term logic okay reaction is just insane make Hera address the center just so he could finally kill these castles and get the monastery by the way true monster is there with all three relics and yeah again he has full control of the bottom now Hera can't safely farm or take wood from that whole area yeah and I mean where's Hera taking wood right now yes a few wooden is in left side but that's not gonna last forever as long as all the wood in the middle is vulnerable as well oh okay yeah max realized yeah wouldn't long term that would get old sheds out of a hunter long term would just look like it can be a big big problem for her long-term gold as well if he loses those relics sure the Kami oaks are just mopping up everything Wow I think I think this is where Hera is really feeling it he only has 14 hussar stood up and he has 200 food and 200 wood yeah he's a con all the Eco training and has caught up to him yeah his economies Oh baby didn't I like using everything he has and at the moment nothing that gets enough Wow one castle goes down the ranges and start going down the next Castle will go down this feels over now this feels over I think if max takes the castles out we already said that this is where Hera has his few Lumberjacks they would die maybe the center there could be a bit of a push but her only has skirmishers he can't push the towers he also has like throw the villagers a little $25 on top side as well so that's the bad big part of this economy as well right now how hair is producing all their own things he's desperate to kill the traps and he can't do it because the Kami oaks and helps to protect you and the GPE he sticks with the hustler as well for salt I mean the hustler it's a fine addition to your inflect rating maybe attack some square meter but it can't be like 80% of your main army it can't be hussars that was a mix of a big throw from Hera and a sick comeback from Max for sure it was really really well played with max as well I mean look at her now the middle is open and he came of Stonewall either as cough right so he's no way to look actually secure an area he has 40 skirmishes just sitting in his base waiting because he cannot leave that space once he leaves yeah certainly that space could float again just really really really well played my max here yeah we we had a lot of time to talk about it but there are a few things I think first off Hera needed to push faster when he had his advantage before the Kami hooks mast before they were early the other thing is I think he was a bit overconfident maybe making the house ours was because of overconfidence also he built his castles all on the left-hand side had he castled the right-hand side though he can't wall that would have prevented max from raiding like he did yeah I'm a 1 hour and 34 minutes Viper that was unexpected I thought that game was over it right when Hera hit him honestly right when he had a lead huskarla I thought it was GG yeah it was looking really good for her then I think also Hera I mean cavalier switch it's so much gold investment right that could have been hand cleaners could managers could have been a unit that actually contributes the cavalier they did a good job because they did a good fight there at the start berlin cat in peril age but still cavalier probably not worth the investment yeah but you know the most important part here in this game oh god yeah yeah come on I forgot about that actually the game was so long that was the most important part but this game okay so 1400 kills for max go through the achievements Wow Hera had 20,000 more food I wonder what that was put into more stone and six thousand more gold really felt like Hera I think if he went huskar champion he would have won but I I could be wrong I mean house-call yes but in this add something ranged behind skirmishes not a terrible choice but with the Cameo so you need something that is a little bit more hard-hitting hangers imagine he has 40 hand killers max can never get on top of those he doesn't have any army that can actually get on top of those because with the production rate of golf he will always have meat shield in front of 40 hand canoes and those hand cleaners don't die either so they are like an investment once pretty much of course this might lose some here and there but it's like a one-time investment and then you just pump meat shield and I don't see how max from the position he was in in early Imperial Asia I don't see how he could have fended off a hand killing their auditor and then champion or husk all push do you remember the two Rams on the right hand side Hara just sent them in he broke through the walls then clicked your hams if he had stables on the right hand side at that time broke through the walls and set in 20 hussars as you said many times that would be the way to use the hussars just rate but to use sixty hustlers in the main fight against Cammy Oaks and helps is just I mean there's people my chat even know not to do that Wow there must be serous but either way I mean even we could see it so I think about the castle positions as well max did are completely random it's not completely random but it's like a castle it don't really make tumor sense at that play a game on the right side yeah but long-term it did protect the whole right area sort of and also like far-off section of his farming there was a woodland there so if castle actually contributes to some way Hera made four castles in the same spot where one castle or two castles does the same job it's so isn't it so much fun to be a caster because we're always right because we we already know what's happened right it he won the game this for castles wouldn't have even been a talking point I mean it's awesome to be captain yeah it's really cool to be captain hindsight then be able to yes exactly tell them everything is wrong obviously in the game you don't get the chance to view the whole map and think like this it's only possible from a caster perspective yep well game three is coming up this will be Harrah's home epic he has are we gonna seek up we are going to the are gonna seek up let's go Japanese were oh interesting I I wasn't expecting a Japanese war and I can talk through this and get into the game awesome yes here we are everyone so welcome Viper's currently streaming this as well so who loaded all Vipers viewers and then hello hello to to everyone who's here for my 24 hour stream today thanks again to ducks to legless Alex to Oracle for putting up the thousand dollars for the show match and thanks Viper for hangin out I know you're sick so it's we sound more sick than I am so I'm perfect my peak condition let's go alright so this was one of the new maps for hidden cup to I don't believe that this is a map that Hera played during the tournament because he lost in round one but you did play this you actually played this against the max didn't you in the finals yeah I mean this is map you said Hera and and be able to played this the other day right they might have just played my pack it might have no no I was talking about if I said Cup then I meant to say Bay oh okay sorry yeah okay then yeah I don't know they were probably just playing around with a map pack and of course this is a map if you practice it and play it it makes sense to pick it but like I don't know if this is a map I would see her of practicing or picking I know yeah his kind of changes approach a little bit lately I mean since I started streaming etc I think he's been the more of a hybrid player like of course it still primarily a LAN player but I think it's way better on hybrid Maps than it used to be so I'm not completely surprised to see him actually pick sort of a hybrid type map yeah I think that he he understood his weakness in a sense because everyone has always seen him as an Arabia player yeah funny enough I think before hidden Cup two he said to me I'm worse on Arabia than I am it at random Maps now and I was surprised he said that and then he he lost what was it 3-1 vivvy but yeah I agree I think that he's been he's been focusing more on preparation and strategy instead of just using his speed and agility for Arabia and whatnot yeah him streaming as well as made him like analyzed more and like self reflect more um possibly and everything so I think that also contributes to him sort of also like becoming a little bit of a more mature stache different yeah player I also think he has a lot more time at the moment as well because time is a big thing if you don't have time a lot of players just want to load up and play for a few hours and play Arabia yeah but he's been he's had some time recently so so this map is one of my favorite maps I still don't think there's a defined metaphor and I'm really really curious as to why they chose Japanese obviously there's fish in the center but there's also an fibia stew rain so if someone were to go for men at arms or Scouts or whatever they could kill the fishing ships and then also the fishing ships and the Navy cannot cross over to the other side of the pond so both players are docking the center now but Viper there's only I want to say there's only a thousand food now there's less than a thousand food in the center because the salmon only have 225 that's why I think Japanese is an interesting approach because it's not like fish doesn't matter near as much on this map as it does on on some other once yeah but the finger on this map is I think I mean from when I played at that thing sure I thought man arms opening is the way to go here so just make a lot of sense because you can afford a document for barracks you can afford everything in they pretty much yeah and of course your facial shape last longer as well yeah that's that's a good point right it's not so much just the fishing ships but it's the flexibility that you have with Japanese second point I mean you don't have to like no one is gonna go here three dock fire ship right it's not a water yeah I want to do like a little bit of water maybe just to try and see if we can get the work control and take the fish but you've gone amay cleanliness you're gonna try to fight on land you're not gonna win this water by winning this game by having control of mail water yeah so Japanese is perfect pick for sort of like a mixed playstyle a little bit of water a little bit of land and considering that everything is cheaper than McAdams mining camps mill and also you're fishin ships have more armor they are just a very logical pick for a snap especially considering that there's no it not really another water map on this this serious except for islands and islands most likely will seem like they're so you think Vikings I think Mike is just interesting is there a reason you think Vikings as opposed to like Italians is very best okay you are Norwegian so maybe a bit I yeah but I still think I mean Mikey's can like sure a lot of people think okay Vikings well long boats but long bows aren't that great against more galas they're good inspired yes but yeah Mikey's don't have to play long ball so you can play war guys just go fast watching with galleys yeah and you're yeah you're gonna have cheaper war guys you're gonna be in a better spot compared to most other seas so Vikings aren't that bad right I mean in a straight-up water map like Baltic or Buster calls and arena map for your board in the middle where it's all banned arena yeah pretty much make sense make sense okay well yeah on those types of maps Viking can't make fire ships though you were in a big weakness there but you can always find the way well that will come game for I think so might be the game after this actually so yeah so you always have to keep that in mind when you're picking sibs the Builder in Dark Age was almost identical for both players but now it's a bit different Mac's built the barracks nice and early and he's sending the militia around Soho commanded arms and era I think we'll go for a fast range maybe yeah fast range then I guess Hera is taking thinking about getting water control so he did three efficient shift max a little bit too but obviously now the fish isn't gonna be equated more I'm suppressed hair is not already making fire ship because I mean he's taken the extra gold so you can make arches and fire ships but right now the gold is can you click wall can Hera notice this in time how sad is that make all the arms man that's three dead villagers he has to delete them you can't honestly no number can know you're it's Japanese method orbs you can't do this okay I mean he trapped them Congrats masterpiece oh man you know the woman might do it real you might she might chop the tree free man okay good he saw it aside oh what a disaster though man and and now max has made a fire galley it was all because of the lack of scouting max max had a little bit more HP on his Scouts O'Hara was running away and he did not scout the barracks and he did not scalp the unit's coming in that's huge and max also got the fire ship out first and he's gonna have water lead as well now everything is hoping that's been really really good for max yeah I mean I'll try but I mean you get three villages and idle time and that's that's worth it yeah yeah three villagers keep your fishing ships alive while hair will lose his now what's interesting about this is arrows gone to range which in my opinion is is almost too aggressive because there's economies already behind yeah let's uh but anyways as he starts to send archers out across the map max has this section of water so you could use demos or fires to keep the archers away so that's why water is important not necessarily for a big fish boom but for the map control yeah look at all you mean we forgot to do a prediction man I think max will win no this doesn't Cal I think it's an ad I would have guessed max anyway because I think max is better on hybrid maps like this just like darkness of what I would have guessed max seemed easy to say easy to say now but yeah exactly I mean if you look at it as well now Harris economy he has two ranges right he's producing from one yeah now he started posting from second one so like his economy's gonna be stretched so thin while Max has more of a smooth development max this wallet completely walled soon he's gonna have the curtain walls but it's a weak Scout so oh it's a weak villager as well no good call good job by Max two moons dipped um yeah Harrell doesn't like inheres well he can't go straight to max he always has to circumvent the water now but Aris not giving up water he's heading for shape does any a demo ship so what is not definitely not over all it's not said and done on the water on the water yet yeah another thing you could do of course is is possibly dock the left side there's definitely more fish over there mmm that's a pretty big investment though to make the dock and efficient ships I think at this point it almost even makes sense to just make fish traps to like don't make a second or con artists I just add one or two fish traps if you have control of this water really interesting do you remember who won the game between you and Max and the hidden cup two finals on this that was nice yeah that was when I forget what game that was oh that was game number four because he wasn't a 2-1 he went up 3-1 and then he went up 3-1 I was freaking out there I was I was freaking out that game was I was so like frustrated after that game because I felt like I played so poorly yeah it was not definitely not after I gave two timeouts like yeah you took like five ten minutes to a breather by the way how's Debbie doing is she sick as well yeah what's wrong we're getting better still in it yeah well Hara is finding kind of tough time to do damage you can't do anything but I do like the fact that he seems to have quite a bit of farmers Max's farms are horse collar farms so they've been better and also here is he's pressuring about water but this is a risky game coming in if this most a mango shells Cup where water is nerves this move makes sense but he's kind of just waiting wasting that important unit speculum yeah yeah now now if he makes a demo it could be pretty sweet but that could be that could be for either of them yeah how about max wheelers as well there's no point in him to take the risk in like stay in the water got the counter units as well he's the economy's looking very good teaspoon the wheelbarrow then probably kicks to click straight to Castle age question dentist follow-up to that is it gonna make crossbow let's go Knights maybe even yeah I think for max it might make more sense to stick with skirm like Scott or whereas I think Hera if he clicks up Knights would definitely be helpful to pick off those skirmishers yeah yeah I mean is range though it's kind of taking back water control like this yeah I think max is gonna be too concerned with that he only has to fix a ship there so losing that it's not the end of the world for him it's not farm repair this but ashes are coming to admit as well I don't understand max doing a counter-attack with sperms scurbs don't do damage - yeah - villagers villagers they're not kind of it's weird yeah it's very strange where will Harrah's are true archers be when this demo comes out Viper this could be really interesting here is going the wrong way as well here comes a demo oh yeah what kind of trap there was right so we're gonna be having sort of similar castes shams I mean those scams are gonna cost my little time it's gonna be annoying yet they're not gonna kill any builders well there's so there's a weak one on the berries but you're right it's it's kind of weird how we didn't have those at home but he ends up judging it correctly and being okay cuz Hera has to come back is Hera missing why isn't he okay he's on his way up now I mean Hera Kent okay max doesn't harm right max that armor I'm just gonna get it in action perfect time you presumably kickin with that armor he can actually even probably win this fight if you guess correctly do you do you remember when we played and you're like yeah we had the armored discussion do you remember that yeah for some reason I never just thought about stuff I just like would watch games and think wow this is good looking yeah if you had so our Hera losses woman Archer yeah so the the scurbs have what is it three pierce armor without armor and then you get padded Archer armor it makes it for archers to five damage so it's just one damage a hit I mean I think as well now Hera only has a torches left right now and the axe is doing bloodlines he's about to do tonight's which if there was eight more crossbows there the Knights are gonna trade so much worse but not with the lowered Archer number suddenly that night squish can be super deadly you know I think another big reason to make nights is because they're more mobile it's risky to send archers across in this map because they're slow and demos and fires can snag them but Knights can be quite strong but you know what I like about this is how I obviously Hera had an awful start but he was able to hold control in the center and he's still in the game yeah it's definitely done a good job after that very shaky start yeah oh she's here oh that's really important those arches well Harris going bodkin arrow war galley not crossbo that's really strange current station for me there's no fish on the water anymore why does he need to prioritize water so much it might be just for that control now he doesn't have anything at home so we'll need quick walls possibly a modest area councilor mm I guess he saw the nice coming in yeah yeah yeah I think honestly this could be pretty good for Hera as long as his crossbows get to Max's base to do some damage but it's awkward what he sees go up he knows he can't get in on Max's face so he has to go back yeah there's idle time for Hera Oh another town center and Max is probably not gonna go there but yeah okay they are forging right now they don't have forging but Bill's dead this is what max wants with these Knights just cost chaos and while he's adding consonants at its own base yeah Max is completely fine even losing these Knights just as long as he picks off a couple of Ledger's yeah almost similar to Game one in feudal age where Hera made the man-at-arms and then ran around and bought himself time max is doing the same thing here in Castle age with Knights and while Hera might have 3t sees the efficiencies way off he had a dozen villagers inside that TCE I think this is where the one big risk for max now is if he'd can't press her hair anymore because of the tc's and Hera takes control of water so I think eventually once your eco said I think that's where the second and third dock could start coming up for both players yeah I mean what's good for her hair is he did war galley and he asked Balkan as well for his crossbow so they switched to actually add start adding some workouts that has range can suddenly be on the table right and then he can actually take out most of front buildings for max here and that's like it's not end of the world from X but still super annoying to lose say ten ten twelve houses there are yeah this table I'll change yeah another thing that that's interesting to bring up is how the compositions will look going towards the Imperial age I like Harrah's composition more an imp because he gets our blessing bracer whereas Max's nights are not going to be all that successful in the Imperial ages Japanese cavalier a quite week without that flying final armor upgrade yeah I mean max is not going to stay able to cover there this is just a castle age play a couple of nights yes gonna make a switch to regions in Imperial nature and I would not rule out the Istanbul towers either bye max that's definitely something he will do yep sounds like it and it'd be it'd be important to get some towers or castles on this gold area on the left hand side that players do have three golds there's always a neutral gold in the corner so you'll see that on the mini-map for both of them and then there's a ton of gold in the center so it could be a mistake to just boom and go to imp without some form of map control both players will need to make more military and be more aggressive look at Maxie I mean he knows as well that he's safe Hera's trying to do some damage him but he can't so his crossbows are just turning around and in the meantime max has one skirm on the top right who has been making sure that this is open and now there's nine nice from max coming in straight to the woman he's going to pick up a monk and it's gonna Oh Hera with the quick oh yeah oh wow really nice for her really nice Wow alright well here against conversion he will lose a villager and so many I thought it was just here as well still very good value for an for max and again Hera those crossbows they keep going back and forth and not doing anything yeah well that was that was some high level stuff for max there to use this skirmish sure to make sure that was open yeah I mean it was killing an animation yeah that helps guide his decisions and that spiritual scouting is meant to do yeah man and now he's getting elite skirm some nights and elites car very strong against history crossbow is now a good job though he's built account this is keeping up and staying at yeah I'm over to mix I really wonder if max will dock I don't know if you have a strong opinion on this because obviously we've haven't seen many Cup games to know what the meta is or if it's worth investing into more docks and fires and stuff but I really feel like now would be the time to play something on the left side yeah I got a dock for some fires just to keep Hera from doing that Max is going forward and dropping a range in between the goals yeah like I said I think if he wants the dock is going to be on the left side the right side doesn't really very much except some control on the front left side is where all the gold is so that is where it would make sense to actually do a dock now if he wants to do that Max is also looking closer to Imperial age so I guess he will just do a safe and purely shove time here and then start doing pressure from the top left side yeah makes sense it's such a match thing he has ranges no TC just ranges in the center I thought oh we might pick up with some nights on the water you miss O'Hare of course now it's running straight across close no that's good yeah but those nice aren't useful anymore he's not gonna make more nights those are just like kind of throwaway units to do down here again I'll gives her a bit of an opportunity right because he's getting ballistics and he has quite a few crossbows still very difficult for max to deal with that look at that yes yes seven lace comes now in the middle of Harris West and all those villages idle that's 30 I the villages just like that those hair is completely open you compare the basis there's no entry to Max's base whatsoever yeah Harris just fully open yeah an era has to send crossbows back his offensive option has to come home to deal with units that counter him that has been the story of this game as well those crossbows keep going forward to see if they can do damage but they always have to come back yeah and despite all this I've been really impressed with Harris boom though because he has not been in a good position and yet his Ville counts still close to max and he's on his way to amp as well so ago it really hasn't been bad but it's been really solid play for max and Zaire or the docks now docks in the center on the island that's huge yeah Mexican very safe well Harrah's thing odd is it weird I'm not weird he's playing risky he's recovering I would say yeah he's always on the back foot here trying to exactly ting what Max's things safe a pair is doing them without mining camp now on the left side oh man that's rough he can't take that whole sided stone yeah max will probably deny that anyway he's building an outpost there and might even send out some some Navy or I wouldn't surprise me to see towers as you said earlier Viper I'm very confident actually that max will do us on the towers that to call control the middle the water and the center that's like I really I don't see I mean I would probably myself as well so yeah I also think max is more likely to do it than me so I do expect to see that coming up you build the castle first so you can get conscription to make trebs and then build towers or do you just go towers now it seems like he's saving for the castle you probably want to castle at first though I don't like Harris move now he knows he doesn't know that Mexican Tim but imagine there would be a demo as well running yeah so risky men knows that Hera that Max has curves as well also being out here imagine there's tens firms now popping up from the right you're completely trapped you're gonna lose all your hair has enough units here to fight with max were to release now but yeah there's only a few squirming braiser so at least Harrah's getting out of here but that should not happen I think if max is able to make some some Navy it should not happen Harrah's lucky he's getting out of there no they pick up Max's monk on the relic on the topside that's all that yes that was cute and just saying some squirms to scouting bottles over see it those nights are still useful they're not a big part of the army anymore but they're gonna be annoying on that right side okay there's a guy there which max sees and Harrah's just feed so maybe he uses the nights there it's gonna be a sign with Howard later Jeff probably max is doing a castle on the gold area now so slow and steady slow and steady max is pretty much playing when you're ahead get further ahead yeah yeah extremely safe I was obviously hoping to snag the relics not making as many mistakes as he did in the previous game that's for sure he came back from behind in the previous game than a game where we thought he was dead but now he's he always it's always felt like he was in control even though Hera has the similar similar population numbers and even though hair is playing well his position is definitely worse it will be a very tough task for him to take down these towers there you go by per there's the first like you see Harrah's always adding to Townsend's now towards the bottom like that's too mean that's Building Council's towards the enemy which is a little bit strange to me like one tower and then a couple are blasts maybe Aram and suddenly that could be like 2030 builders that are dead too much yeah maybe the thought process is since he won't have the gold in the center he's trying to to get more bills and maybe sell wood and I don't know but you're right it's such a such an easy area to hit if you're max I mean Max is about like I mean look at the position now yes I'm told all those that extra gold man yeah it's gonna be so hard for her to actually take back ever now there is a gold more tour ok max has a villager in the north Viper oh he's gonna build a range or a stable or something that's amazing but there is a gold there for Hera there's also a gold on the left for max which which max is gonna have the defend actually because the are blessed for Hera finally arrived to do something mm-hmm about time always trying to save the monk run as good as well I mean max have the two nights like as well in the right set of Harris equal they're like the town center was to garrison for 1 minute so those nights yeah actually still male made use really good max like most players will build buildings at home and then raid with their military but max loves full rebuilding it's like every game and I had never picked up on this before hidden come cuz max doesn't play a lot of 1b ones as not he just doesn't play a lot unless 15 games yeah every time he plays one B once now he's doing this O'Hara's running into the talent that what is he doing with árboles what is this did he think was open I think you tried to click the town center just miss clicked oh god yeah and that's a disaster 20 30 I listen to his ways to make it Wow yeah he's gonna lose them all and now Hera has gone for fast fire ship but max has his own fast fire ships yeah it's horse or now guard towers we're gonna be keep they're gonna I was this is gonna happy Osama it's gonna be beautiful man he's already towering on our side Osama that man yeah that's he's got style I like this yeah well I think what Hara needs is some siege he needs some trebuchet because there's nothing from max I can kill trebs easily so maybe you start tripping back the center and defending on the right-hand side yes on that point as well you made with the four buildings something max does really well if you remember last game as well whenever max was starting to make a push somewhere there was like three four barracks two three orange popped on that in that area immediately just to me yes a sub he's really good and like the follow-up keep adding production to keep the pressure going yeah he's producing at all times man it was so much fun just talking to the max yeah last week it was such a good time it's so much more fun like casting people once you've met them in real life as well like once you have an idea of what the personalities like yeah so max well doing skalman arm roots like maybe a Japanese samurai switch is yeah the table Oh quite a few skirmishers out and about for Hara and not a lot else except for Navy so maybe samurai and Navy I don't like Max's population but it's it's because Hera has boomed up to 150 bills so it's kind of what I expected when he didn't have the goal in the center to just add more VLEs sell would sell food for gold he's doing all right in the center he's shopping back a few towers look at the top I hear you laughing not sure why keep upgrade isn't coming against can't afford it yet that's expensive stuff I'm not sure if he has the what's it called he did to Peter them arrow he did chopped he did shot he did shot he is really struggling against the fire ships Japanese actually don't have that upgrades that make sense yeah okay well I mean just in general it feels like he might have had the positioning with his buildings but he hasn't had the production yeah maybe overextending a little bit he does have military to the right side of Harris base he will probably to the IRAs there I think Hara is doing a big mistake now this happens when you're under pressure and not really sure what to do yeah look at the village account it's almost 160 that's too much going to be struggling an army like to produce and compete yeah every angle like max has perfect amount villagers 130 yeah room for 70 military someone left side on the right size in the middle all hair up pretty much will only have enough units for one yeah he has 40 idols he'd be better off just deleting some yeah max just through a treble way by accident and and so this might be Harry's opportunity in the center to I was this coming in we still making some samurai in the background I assume he will want to make elite samurai eventually but he only has one castle this and maybe the add-ins to know okay and hair is making his castle on the right side which will clean up some of the towers and stop max from pushing in but I think it he really needs a castle in the center like in the center kill the castle place your own he needs a big push back he is making a move now with but like so weirdest look there's no military is just for trips to ramps and this attack ships it's like no military there so this can either go terribly wrong or amazingly world and that's his range in the north is it's making stuff now is three skirmishers rating he'll make another range there I guess he doesn't see Harrah's on the gold I love it so much man it's really good shipwright okay thinking like that's the thing likes to pick a long-term yeah it's gonna make a lot of ways so ship ride makes a lot of sense Danny's ramming down a Harrah's castle on the right cat dreams will work unless hair uses his villagers and make some samurai which he's doing still he buy though I don't understand why is delaying keep how much does that cost 500 250 I think Oh demos come in Hera will loses trips well more than my steps are about to go down for her as well max is just the Stoli cementing his position like securing this position again I really like the castle on the max it's not like in the front line where chefs could trim it down easily it's all the exact site pretty much to get to that castle you have to like take complete control of the whole area there yeah the Hera has to go to to kind of an awkward position from Nvidia strain a Hera has created quite a few fire galleries in the center and they can't pass so these fire galleries are useless even even the war galleys he has a useless and Max is making towers one thing I need a job I must say who's that sorry Hera is doing a really good job I'm mistaken yeah considering the position is in yeah I agree with you I like the ranges on the left-hand side ranged on the left for a bit of rating and Oh a castle there could make things really interesting that would take the gold away from the max which is how fast Oh max reacted immediately he sees the castle go up yeah this castle might just be like a castle that will stay for a couple of minutes going in and he doesn't really get much out of it we could always send traps over right yeah roofs curbs and fires next to Harrah's trebs Harrah's outnumbered here he does have gold he just can't produce in the right spots those trebs will eventually die unless he packs them up right now it doesn't seem like yeah don't waste a debt on that and look at the cast on the left side there's enough squirms there by next now that castle might not even go up Wow and he's rating in the north with war skirmishers because Hera not know Hera knows there's one range there okay he doesn't know about the other one in the corner you know it sneak archery the max you know they're there you don't have to like think about it you know they're there you know I think the new meta when playing max is just build outposts in the corners at the start of the game is through it in Dark Age Wow well great reaction from max once Harris started building this castle he sent army here he denied it he's building his own castle to protect that area though I honestly feel like the castle should have been right next to Harrah's can foundation but the thing is he didn't know for sure that was going to deny it right so yeah my daughter the castle before that at this point obviously if he knew he would've dropped the castle there immediately yeah yeah it's a really tough map to finish off games on because there's so many points you can pressure yeah there there's a pause for me is it the same for you yes the same for me okay yes I mean you have armies on the right obviously Navy and some units in the center and then you have the left as well but Max's seems like he's in control even though the population doesn't say that I mean the main thing we can look at now is how called this hair of access to there's like 1,200 in the middle of where it's like on the middle on the right side and then yes like a 1500 on the top side which max is constantly raining so gold look at what max has access to just sending them out of 20 villages to the middle you know it's Andy has sorry by birth and he has and he has one relic and and should be able to get more then again I guess Hera has to you could snag the one underneath that castle but yeah but the relic difference it's gonna come to play it for another hour per half-hour yeah yeah no you guys would we don't want that to happen again do it max well yes three castles now he's making one more samurai I'm pretty sure he's gonna switch into full elite samurai soon yeah and the question then is I mean Hera who is out of gold what answer do have to lead samurai at that point yeah he doesn't really have an answer he doesn't have the defensive towers and Max has he he can't afford our blessed and there you go VIPRE alien samurai on the way to castles to produce from its is actually enough with Japanese because samurai produced so quickly yeah for sure I mean yes he has three castles one of the bottom that says the tub is never never Mara he's trying to out prepare samurai nope once max not like max again he's been playing the sort of what's called the long game late game long India but like when you just train the metal resources you just starve them starve them to death pretty much he's looking at Harold gold and now he's like starting to use his goal his he era is doing skeleton body armor I think really likes those huh sorry I'm not care I mean he needs something to raid with right now but to get past as many towers and castles Max's base is so so solid defensively everywhere you look he has towers or castles and was that as well when I play the gaming as maximum to like was always making towers in his base you know like preemptively like there will be a tower there for 30 minutes doing but it came into effect in late-game and rated yeah and suddenly those towers are super useful and super powerful kinda reminds me of that of last game where that that weird castle on the right-hand side man I'm going to play 20 minutes later it was still kind of weird because of the hill was up against the edge of the map but it was very weird yeah yeah this max gets his samurai in the right spot I think that I think this cave is probably over a hair is doing his best to trip down this castle on the right side but the samurai could easily snipe that TREB and then if max uses the samurai in the center now with his galleons with his wires he will probably kill these trebuchet as well and he's still trying to hook make skirmishers and raid where he can yeah max is now up to 35 samurai and Hera again like now it's gonna be this is the moment where Harrah's gonna be like oh what yeah do I actually do her because it doesn't have gold to make our bless he doesn't have a goal to make any counters in samurais yeah so I think this is more O'Hara's gonna realize that okay it's not really many when conditions from here and I don't think this game of last too much longer yeah it's either GG right now or he'll try a bit longer and then he'll have to tap out once max packs up these trebuchet and sends them forward against this castle is that that is one thing that is kept Harris safe in this area of is farming Eco is a castle but samurai will one right in because there's no way for Hera to stop the trebs there's buildings dying everywhere yeah max is gonna take the wind Piper and you know what Hera is a good Harrah's invested a lot of gold in the supply ship as well max doesn't care he has faulty to send the samurais to kill those as well and they die really fast a samurai - so like Mexico samurai pretty much encounter every single unit Hera has at the moment yeah they're also gonna counter the life cut he's about to make yeah really strong play from Max he lost the first game I didn't have the best map but he had an amazing comeback oldest mo into the game good yeah now there's two more relics up for grabs before max today the cool things have taken awesome max did deny the gold on top side completely from era so he doesn't even have those skipping on with gold moonstone system yeah Hera Hera has military but it's not the right military he does not have resources and he has his villagers that will all die dang he might be a bit tilted to be honest I I don't know I think Harrah's got better with it but here comes max with more towers era through game 2 and now in game 3 max has played really really well I would take cynical it's just played super solid and like taking it a risk he's just grabbed damn and I've taken to take taking whatever damage to finds and like that's all he needs this needs a little bit of damage to just let me see that everything right otherwise it puts himself in a position where you can win long-term yeah that's pretty much when people have asked me actually in my chat Li hey hat wise Leiper so good I'm like because he makes the right decisions cuz he's solid either he's always in the right area at the right time obviously like your micro is incredible which I think separates you from the other players which which can make those decisions well but like the reality is it's a strategy game and you have to execute and hit the right areas and that's exactly what max has done and the HERA taps out it calls the gg you can see also the way max used his samurai not not just now like he had gold other again making him earlier but barely a few because he knew okay yeah I don't need samurai yet I just need to keep draining he robbed gold and then my samurai switch is gonna come later I am pretty sure max already thought about the samurai as soon as he took controller all the five six calls in the middle he thought okay a long term I'm gonna make a samurai yeah you know you could you could think back to how Hera played with Goths in game number two there were a few instances where he was sending in just one or two husk girls at a time yeah and he wasn't using them at the right time in the right spot max used those same right perfectly here exactly so I need to take a quick break I'm just gonna run quickly bathroom and grab some water as well so I'll be I'll be right back yeah do your thing man no worries just mute me on your stream because otherwise that might be a bit sure bit weird all right all right so then all right guys I need I need to take a quick break I need to blow my nose and get some to drink and pick off a little bit it was really good game bye bye max for sure he's leading two-to-one now it's best of seven so we'll see I think next game is Islands which is not usually the most fun maps map to watch but it's actually more way more fun way more fun now with Volo kingdoms with a way more of a landing meta I'm just gonna make web cameras so dark I don't know not sure exactly why try to make it a little bit brighter yeah this should be better I'm gonna be a bad guys and then go pee grab something to drink let me sneak things over and Michael think about two and fifty embers I appreciate that wasn't a good game was a great game well played max indeed the big memory Network thank you for the 100 embers as well why is the panic crying maybe t90 bit chancy I thought I saw I was playing maybe earlier I don't know how the score was though Felix think of a gifting a sub to carry eight if I met we have enough to barley with a subscription and a redish nine one nine thank you guys I know I haven't don't shout you out at the moment but I'll shout you out when I get a moment's peace we also had bombastic s-- GDP my friend with the five dollar donation a long time they'll see how I've been doing I'm good I was in Manchester last weekend we won't you see also I'm happy about that I'm sick though slowly recovering it's been a while now I'm in sick for a week almost I'm pretty sure a week that's annoying but we'll see Posca fine thing about four months mountain goat think with this up as well guys I need to run a peak is the game starting this I'll be back you there's an elephant but I can I will make a donation poll and you guys can give numbers and whoever donates the most or which name gets the most amazing ass name hashtag sellout did I pass this tell me unmute Tristan here that's all your plans but I'm not you now here is in the North he's playing as the Italians all your back nice I am back hello and you were right max shows Vikings and Harris gone Italians alright interesting I'm actually using a scout to the Boer yes it's a big tell that Max is not planning to do a landing on any sort yeah could hurt him as well if Hara does end up on his eyelids yeah for sure Scout is real important don't think he was using a scout yeah hair is not okay well I was messaging both the players I was the one I didn't organize his per se but I was the one who was in contact with the players and Hera said something about islands I forget but I said don't worry Landing is the new meta that's what I said so he said yeah no he said he said facts that's a Hara thing to say max so he was always in the ecl errs oh yeah he's just chilling when he was like doing well yeah just chilling it's true facts he's a Viking this is chilling yeah I'm only eight years older than Hera and yet I feel so out of touch like yeah he's chillin facts you know it's I'm old man I'm even older man so you're why year old with me you're 27 I'm 27 yeah 91 yeah yeah okay not bad maximum for the back yeah yeah tell us about that Viper it's in the back oh that was such a doubt answer yes I know so Harris going for front oh my single for back dog it makes sense cuz Harris Italians he will most likely open with fire ships yeah fry galleys which is the dominant unit in low numbers but max is for the back dogs he's gonna probably do a competition ship there and then prediction max max okay and yeah he's gonna transition to galleys from the back the question here the problem here though rather is when you play like this you reel your front completely exposed and you're very vulnerable for a landing and the board [Music] so yeah the question is if Hara is gonna try to win straight up water with Italians which is not impossible it tells us great water save as well yeah or if you will try to do some sort of cheeky landing now during ECL if you remember that the islands map there the big difference there is why we kind of changed our play style there is that there was only one stone on the island so we want to always try and land and tower that stone because yeah and that's my honest really difficult to defend because you'd simply don't have access to stone this map however there are two stones so landing is not gonna be as dominant I would say us on the map who played an easy oh but yeah it's just gonna be how Hara so it decides to play this I'm guessing that obvious what it would be more comfortable with but we'll see yeah there's a lot of luck involved as well because you never know if you'll if you'll be controlling a resource it would be decent if he arrives on the front but the stones are certainly accessible for max and I think max will probably choose to take this gold which is nearest to his town center so like hare will deny that I also think because the island is so compact max will likely spot that rather early or at least he would hope so that's very important as long as he keeps his Scout acting towards the front he should be alright from the matter what yeah Viking is a such a good economy that if you like even if you get landed you should always be able to like sort of react in a proper way yeah you have to get really caught off guard if you want to actually like if you're gonna actually lose straight up from just a simple landing so do you think max goes for a second dock on the back then and and starts making like fletching galleys yeah he's already got a villager in the corner like he's he never sent a villager back he's always been sticking around to make the second and probably third dock as well I was expecting a third dog to come or even second dog to come to the bottom right though I'm not sure I mean this had to go towards the left which is fine as well but like a dock in the bottom right would have been really beautiful because there's so much fish there as well yeah might be slightly safer for your fish slightly further away here is actually scouting with his fishing ships now this is a strategy you'll see so he knows exactly where to go reaching futile edge nice and click with Italians and this smells like a transport to me viper because the Scout was hanging around there but nothing yet from Hera yeah I mean the fishing ship scouting is to me that seems like he wants to play water because he wants to find out where the fish is ASAP I think he's scared of now is max just fast casting into long boats that's why I think he is scouting with the fishing ship because he wants to find out where that fish is immediately but max is not going up see it's going to safe backdrops fuel age galleys and I honestly think that math strategy is gonna look at the moment it seems like a pure blind counter to what he was doing yeah there was it's really good three efficient ship as well so his economy is not gonna be great behind this either okay so finally Hera finds the dock but max he's pumping out those galleys and an early blacksmith could come up fast watching could come out demo ship was there as well yes one more fiction ship I mean he has two more fish because the fourth of Hera is not really working so yes yeah I would say at the moment it's looking like max has a very good approach this game compared to what her yeah oh my god did you see Harris fishing ship blocking it's something that you called as well in the previous game you mentioned that evening Vikings is still very good probably if they have a bit of time in futile age and that's exactly what max has had my mistake her though is queuing up two gals in one box and not in the other so live it up micro mistake so we're not huge I guess there's still so many pro players who play it like it's uh like it's single queue yeah you know let's accuse more so for late game for them yeah but multi queue as well it's not really their small to queue and there's smart multi cute like I don't yeah what you later to is too smart multi cue yet I don't think it recognizes where you have the most production because you see again he has two gals in one and the others are about to be empty so I think he's purely multi queuing here and now I see actually checking the docks I see I mean okay so like a docked with 90% cute I might get a second galley well the other one has a 10% cute right yeah I wasn't sure what you meant at first I thought that you were saying that max was was using multi cue at the wrong time or something I think I I think I think it is the the smart cue the Viper you sure about that I think I think so yeah and it doesn't make sense that it got queued up like that for him I mean unless it was single cue yeah like he was just toggling through I'm not sure I've never that's not a term I think head Viper just made it up like this more no no there's a term is that the actual is it is it I'm pretty sure that's the term I think it's called just smart cute gotcha well I'm not sure I'm sure someone in the chat will know I I always ask other people Harrah's landed Hara landed right next to makes his scout but it just escaped division there Mysorean walling in this come placed completely and Max had a really sick demo shot there as well there's a lot of weak fires for Hera and Max tell has fleshing and his fish have been safe I love the docks on the left hand side oh no way we found it okay can hear a wall the villain it doesn't matter doesn't matter doesn't matter just finding it is the big deal yeah exactly oh my god oh my god Warner I've had this happen to me so he needs to click oh no he need to click on the past I left all isn't tilted by now yeah that's a moment that might get you Oh max found the transfer ship if he's yeah he's going for transfer oh my god I just need to focus on ship and then get out of there again six kills zero deaths for max he kills the transport ship seven kills a is way more eco because he's had the fish he's walled up he denied the Sneed max is looking really good now game is looking at this is this is the dream you won't good Vikings he also has he added more efficient ship as well as he has six mr. chips yeah he's pretty much living the dream he's chilling with oh my god meanwhile Hera what would he say I don't know but yeah this is exactly what you would want you would expect that max will hate castle age faster yeah get to the war galley upgrade faster and it's almost so bad cuz Hera he's tried everything he tried to go for the water control quickly with the meijer that didn't work so he figured okay I need to land and then Max denied that as well now only just denied it but but stopped the range entirely killed the villager killed the transport it wasn't so everything has added up against Hera and so it's not not as if he can go forward now going forward now wouldn't help him think maybe building the market as he is doing and getting to Castle age to fight on water is probably the best approach yeah I mean a singer is like Hera can only play water now like he cannot try landing again it's not gonna work max is full of Walled everything like that he's losing his fish now Maxim cast lays like there's not a single point in from now on where Hera's gonna have an advantage on water either so yeah this is a really upper battle here we'll have to owe the forgers are there as well yeah I know honestly it's Angie again as well um honestly I think Hera maybes best choices just 3tc boom try to take it to him I don't think he can catch up any other way yeah cuz certainly old water he's not gonna have it he doesn't have the fishing ship numbers good micro from max that's right but he needs to get his fishing ships out of it well and like you best state they're kind of yeah they don't die that FASTA fires anymore yeah it's looking really well good for max I wonder if he will make a switch to long boats moving or if he's just gonna stick with war galley what would you do would you would you go long boats I'll probably just do war galley and then see what Harrah's making a pair of sticking with full fires I would like I wouldn't make more gals from this Madan yeah max is already adding fish he's having a fifth stalkers well with better fish I would add TCS maybe ballistics and war galley and yeah I mean herons adding some galas as well so it seems like he might making a switch but he doesn't even have fetching so yeah not really sure what his plan is yeah I think longboats is a reaction now to see more fires I think two PC's is the way to go now for max just economy approach yeah well and and as we've touched on a few times he always goes for that safe approach I kind of like his strengths definitely match to this build as well yeah just safe back dog play defensive and there's the second TC like you said getting all those upgrades he outnumbers Hera pretty heavily 19 or to make that 21 to 12 and she has free wheelbarrow and and the fish it's it's wild Spain cartoon oh yeah a handcart now and even like you can see as well he didn't you know he killed a Harris fish so no point for him to go for with his army he just stayed at home protecting his own fish yeah sure he lost a fishing ship but that's fine he's already he's chilling so it's fine and I really think that Harris struggles verse the really safe defensive like solid players that makes sense could be like he struggles versus MBL a lot as well but then again he'll tends to play baby and then baby who's the exact opposite you'll is gonna bring that yeah that's true vivy definitely would not have gone back doc fish boom into into galleys but it would be a lot of stone taking a lot of towers already yeah it's like hidden cup three we see someone pick Spanish vivvy yeah like Chinese it's like yo Tim vivvy pretty much is gonna try the TC approach as you said Viper that's what hair is doing max did add a few longboats already I think it's just like safe just to have two three in case some fire short but they're on the other side at the moment it's the right side is where the Michigan is getting hit actually yep so he notices this do you think it was intentional to have just a few fishing ships on the right cuz they're kind of spread out at the moment intentional I mean there was better fish to his keep he's adding in a fish I don't think he expected her to invest into all this fire yes I think that's the surprise here I mean how did make a lot of fire sheets actually come you can write- sniping some fish not not too bad he's kind of it means I hadn't village account as well yes yes farm eco well next to zero land economy maxed foodie who is completely on water so it's actually really good for Hera um yeah I think Harris gonna enter this game having better economy from now on max has to start farming else his food equals comes trouble he had to find balance rate you you obviously have the fish for the early game but as the game goes on fish become less and less strong I guess and he has eight of them oh and there's crossbow I like this fence Bishop on front as well archery range he also doesn't have gill nets at the moment so the fish is not that good honestly if you look at this game right now not like just from now on like the score obviously this huge difference but it's not yeah as bad as it seems I think it's the problem for Hera is that the the Navy that max has if he gets enough of it can raise a lot of this economy so Hera probably as you said VIPRE needs to make more fire ships and make more Navy and keep this area and if he defends from this if he gets us around in on these galleys he could also prevent the transport which would be really nice mmm surprised he'll didn't do the armor like careening yet training in Italian so he gets that period for free so that helps a lot here one extra pierce armor really surprising this is a really good surround still yeah great positioning it's so it's so awkward to cast water it really it's cuz that's a great fight for Hera but it's just so so boring I go another ship sank you know I mean if the game is close sir I guess is more exciting right now is this like too much in favor of max at the moment family house is still everyone complete the efficiency is now adding form the first farms he's been relying on fishin ship the whole game and I feel like Harrow should get to encourage before him if you get some fast fires out and then manage the transition from there this game is definitely over maybe maybe fast fires a quick transport to this little Peninsula where max has the outpost and then maybe some condos for a quick early land attack the center islands are always very important not in early him but in the middle of the game and we're sorry middle of em getting castles and docks they are always huge one of those middle legs islands are kind of bugged though there's only two Bolton's a stone stir this thing is supposed to be more tiles yeah I think that's good as well it means means it doesn't get that decisive yeah yeah it's right between them so will be important and now hair is getting bodkin for the war galleys he does have max has ballistics right yeah max has ballistics work alleys and he has the longboats I still understand if Hera has ship right there he wins this fight he was reading decorating whoo yeah and big mistake when he sent the Gorgons in front and fire ships came from behind so we lost three for war guys for nothing yeah and and now max will run away and regroup a bit as he sends the crossbows in Tijeras eco this will do so much damage it will force a lot of idle time could kill villagers if max stops that is I think that angle is coming in from it's not gonna do too much this hair just needs to send warm to war galas and wall off Oh is calling gg ok yep that's very surprising honestly yeah I felt like he still could he could have fallen back with his navy he could have flicked up but I guess he felt like he didn't have anything to defend from the crossbows already you know what the score possibly so of course it's very like the score can be very like you can look at this going be like okay well whatever I'm dead yeah but I mean here's almost 10 more villagers of course dissipation ships here as well so he's not had an economy so to say but he definitely has a fighting chance but I guess still Vikings post-imperial water map as well is not a very favorable match even for Italians so yeah well Hera is in hidden Cup two finals only this is just the show match yeah cuz I believe ya max what's up 3-1 vs. you I forget to order the games but Hera started off the day getting a win and Max is looking really solid now some I'm hoping for harris sake that he can maybe take a couple minutes take a deep breath and realize that he still has the skill to come back I think the next map is his next home map which I actually forget what that is but I'll let everyone know once I find out but there's a quick look at the achievements you I mean Arriba it's 50/50 maybe slightly favoring her even if he does if he managed to grab his whole map no and then we also pick up max his home up afterwards he's gonna enter Arabia feeling super confident and think it's gonna be in a very good position and of course that's still quite a ways away from here yeah yep you probably have to look at it like one game at a time though right you just just deal with each game as it comes let me be Frank's thing okay so 90 seconds so the next game starts mmm library hope I'm gonna answer a few questions to my chat real quick okay because I'm doing a 24 hour so I am giving away let me be frank signing up a sub-segment 777 thank you for that one numbers Gigi already it was a very quick name I don't think the game was over but Albus and Max was looking in a better spot so yeah are asking those questions sorry I haven't been able to get to answering them tip well I was on the fence two days ago about canceling this stream cuz I was probably about as sick as you are right now hyper but I thought okay sorry coming in I was just saying that I fortunately a healing up a bit mm-hmm because a few days ago I was thinking about canceling the stream because I was feeling pretty sick I think I might be okay oh it's Eldorado yeah this is the Eldorado version we had to fix after the qualifiers that drama window gal too when he ducked him a doc on cancel the fish right yeah yeah he was up he was up 3-1 in the qualifier and he felt like he needed to do that it still pisses me off alright so welcome everyone's it's game number four the score is oh sorry I have to update the scoreboard score is currently three to one Max's up a winner of this gets seven hundred and fifty dollars loser gets 250 s a pretty big payday for both of them regardless this map is El Dorado this is the remaining home map for Hera and they both have the same sieve because this civilization is is probably the one that reigned supreme on this map VIPRE you've played El Dorado before you you had an excellent game I think as Chinese verse Incas against in hidden Cup yeah that was that was a sick game could you briefly talk us through what the focus is on this map well obviously yeah get a super quick opening I mean you have instant access to food which I knees so you're always going to keep the free village lead over pretty much every other civilization so that's why Chinese is super favored in this map yeah the matter in general is to open men arms I know some people like open scout but I feel like my arms just give you away more presence in the early opening okay interesting question arrow is I mean you need to like this side where your focus is gonna be are you gonna go for economy are gonna go from that control considering that all the goal is in the center yeah it's like you have to make those decisions throughout the game which makes this game really interesting in many ways at this map so against maybe I when for economy approach I did give him very much too much control in the center yeah but I did pull head quite a lot in economy and it's against ego SIVs it's really dangerous because they don't need much food to produce Eagles they just yeah golden comb so here we have a Chinese war so going for that economy approach versus middle approach here I think economy is always gonna come out on top okay I mean you can always try to do like a mix sort of like some economy focus on military still try to raid try to control them in at the same time it's like you need to kind of already make up your mind early which kind of direction you want to go on this map because it's really difficult if you try to like do a little bit of everything that might also super backfire in the end well one thing that if you're seeing the map for the first time you might not pick up on is that you you can't farm around your TC so eventually you run out of that early food and then securing your base becomes a problem so we'll see players try and wall between the wood lines and find a safe area I kind of sucks for Hara that his berries are blocked off by the wood there well that's really not especially as ten yes you need that food but anyways like who do you predict is gonna win this MX ok I think it's probably a safe bet because it's not Arabia and Max is looking very good but you've been let's see we missed it once but I would have whatever got them that Brook right this well yeah I'm an honest guy I wouldn't lie about this yeah okay well Mac yeah Max is looking really good and he's warming up nice and early so this tells us he might go for more of the economic direction for sure instead of the aggressive approach the thing is as well what you can do with this is what is that completely up so you're not able to be damaged and then you go all in for a Centon control yeah so you're like you have safe safe fish economy in the back and then just full focus is on control in the middle another thing I like about Max's situation is it's more open in the back a players do get two tiles of stone and two tiles of gold at their base so he's gold safe and that's a great area for farming definitely looks really good like his map is quite a perfect other one of course it could have had a little bit easier walling but yesyes he's making making it work so that's a space for farming is super nice yeah I was surprised when you said that you think man-at-arms is better is that change with with even a Chinese work cuz I feel like mezzo saves are very popular on this map and you see man-at-arms with them obviously but I think if I recall most players in the hidden cup - like did you go Scouts or men-at-arms when you like Chinese arms okay well I just forgot that no I I would say most people go in my arms and this map even with Chinese okay yes okay okay especially if you are against the Mississip yeah and it makes sense women arms who Harris about to break into the wall or max is Maxwell this really close Scout as well a really good opening for max it looks like Max is going for a scout approach though oh my God he's getting some good hits here and harassment arms opening seems for now to do absolutely nothing unless there's a hole which sir isn't on the bright side for hair he will be in futile age faster so he will get the extra attack and speed so max will need to run back and stay back for Debbie he said poor Debbie in this case I guess my I mean since my Laurence is the meta yeah my super range okay think maxi predicts that men arms opening as well and therefore I decided okay I'm gonna wall up in minute three to make sure he's safe from the Menards and then he can play however whatever opening he wants a little bit surprised by the range open though because he's not on gold that means it's gonna go scams maybe one Archer and then the rest skirts I stayed the gold for Fletcher to me it looks like just economy approach right now oh this is okay this opening once the breaks through the house it's not walled there's an opening between the house tile this can be disastrous for max did he just read oh he doesn't know is there an older I created pretty sure there's an opening there if you're if you're using the main game you can I don't I'm there I think I'm a podcaster what topic I mind a little a little bit do he doesn't hair ensure hair doesn't realize either no so open man go ahead well I need to check for my stream let's see so you said to the left of the house yeah between the house and the tree um no I don't think so I'm pretty sure it isn't opening who's the bluff caster now right Oh chill it out there okay um this is good for Hera I think the walling is is very ambitious on the front for him but just the fact that he's gotten it now and and max wasn't expecting all this it's not max as a whole as well on this wood line nice as a whole as well what there's holes everywhere always spoiling it or is he no okay wait what are we talking about would Lane over here oh oh okay you said max has a hole as well as like what oh sorry so I hear that's all right Mexican hard to pick up on all on everything and talk about it at the same time struggles of a top 25 caster real nice tower by Max is gonna take a woman and that's switching wood lens on this map is really painful because you're already so stretched thin when it comes to wood when it comes to farming oh my god max just lost the bill yep Hera's doing some real damage here Hera has a three villager lead all because of the whole my Harris doing arches like I think max made a big mistake here so he invested into horse collar as well really early in the game he only has two farms I guess the whole kind of set everything apart but still yeah if you're investing better into the fourth quarter you probably should add farms as well more firms earlier yeah well I guess if he has horsepower than the build difference isn't that huge mmm the koalas quick was whoa okay this one it works yeah he's got it now there's another weak villager on the stone though a Harris spots him he's dead well hold it so much yeah O'Hare accidentally walked his two of his archers into the Tower of Max as well so he lost two arches for nothing that's so painful as well sloppy well I'll stop it but there's a lot of things going on in this game it's very it's understandable that things happen like this well keep in mind everyone that the middle is always visible so if max ends anything forward Harry should see it if it's in the center and that will be where Hera needs to be and where max needs to be in an early castle age because they only have two tiles of gold a good work for max oh Viper picked off another Archer and will just run right on through this be the good frame as well like those scones should serve now as Scouts he wants to find out how many farmers to sarah have what's his economy situation there's a Justin compared pretty much but he's decided to stay with arrange this was a tower on the range as well you didn't take it out he could Tower maybe to the north of the the villagers will take some time to kill that with the bills but he also has since he has the scrums on the other side it's not like Hera can hop out to stop that Hera was dropping his table no it was adding mining camel in stone okay I was just about to say I don't understand why hair is making more archers and he made it they canceled all she was making okay but that or she would not have made sense they would have just been waste pretty much I really feel like max should be using those terms as you said Viper as a scout yeah a green thing that's stale if you saw the stable then I think the correct approach would be to go to gold at home and start making some archers or at least send some spearmen forward para has a huge decision to make now if you look at his resources yeah he is almost ready to click a stage the guess is banking on making towers to defend and then okay I'm to Castle age I guess that would be as nice yeah nice sure but he again he doesn't have the greatest economy still he doesn't have enough farms he probably needs to market to buy some food and they and that point on he could start transitioning to Catholic yeah so he has more resources right now but if doesn't do enough to secure himself the resources will be very short-lived so that's the decision you're referring to it could go up but it's risky exactly yeah max also sending little just to the middle of the map to drop a tower so he's beginning that to focus on the middle to score a big map controllers I mean long term of course air only has 500 gold left on his on his playing balls again if you make a market to buy resources it doesn't have the big accessible to spend that way man if he had just built that market a little bit earlier yeah he would have been up faster and like like now max oh wait max is getting wheelbarrow now I thought he had it anyways so so max he'll have a little bit more time to secure the center the problem here for Hera is I mean if max just plays you can even play a big future he's still adding spearmen like you can do who make 4 5 towers in the base he's still safe at home for this fully world oh my god is he gonna ball the entire center yeah I mean Hera has to finish a way for her to regain math control here it's a castle yeah and that's still a long time away from here yeah Hera has one stable so he could make a few nights but as it stands the Knights will not kill anything that max has because max is stonewalling up the center and he has enough spearmint I think the whole at least against one night against 2 or 3 then it's more complicated I I think max is gonna do armor upgrades and such for him in response I don't think he's gonna think it's just gonna go fully investing on like map control he proposed long incision yes look at top right side the villagers trying to sneak in between the forest for some reason yes miss bad path you there yeah it's it's just just max things yeah his villagers do it without even being prompted they just try and spin to the corner yet max needs armor for sure he needs more Spears and heeds for longer on them yeah it just now started to take cold so he's thinking about Castle age as well I think once he see stuff from Hera I think it's gonna make sure I mean it's tell us a hole in his base there's a gap still between the house and the tree so that way sure that actually looked yeah he has to figure out how he's gonna deal with this I'm sure he's expecting that he took out the range someone wasn't sure he's expecting nights to come yeah he hasn't seen a table yet but that's the only thing that makes sense right now yeah well he also liked the way he has his units positioned skirmisher on the right-hand side tower outpost outposts Howard he should see any of the pressure as it's coming in but he needs to click up he needs to wall this up and he needs to be walled at home because of Walt if he doesn't plug that hole Hera could easily win the game with these Knights look at her Aaron needs a castle drop as well yeah look at his situation without the gold is about torn off the stone Ezra now he has 694 stone yes yeah 14 idle villages now that needs to do something they are they only have one mission right now and that is the Annika castle in the middle question is how is max gonna cope with this towers account a force in the castle will be a little bit away from the middle so max will always have resources sort of safe yeah and he can sort of deny the resources for Harris deal with towers but I just don't think max can stop the castle the castle is gonna be going up and all this is a ballsy castle so what we've blocked all nice by a nice by a max here to block it he's staying in the area exactly where heroines to build just blocking and buying time there oh and that's a good fight to arise we place in the cast list think about oh okay there we go foundations up that's casters max sure honey still open oh nice save in the middle there feel what the night was about to get in the middle to just play PAL sometime now much suddenly has a decision to make how does he want to cope with this to see I'm not stone for Kathleen self no he's not looks like guard tower defense right yeah I mean two of these towers but he could always shift to the left still has his base secured at home yeah could maybe make a few nights it'll be complicated though I think it would play pikemen probably pikemen siege monastery even but like he can still tower as well on the right side to the night at from hera and yes each workshop as well get some magnus out there yeah this this game is all about the middle now i don't think the economy is gonna be ready much at home this is all about the center control this is a really good el dorado game too often the game just ends when one person hits castle and and places a castle but this game is really good because max is still in it Hera has a slight advantage I would say just because of the castle position and the fact that he could make chu canoe which will help against the Pyke's but we'll see there we go viper pikemen and vodka narrow for max [Music] yeah where we go and I think that tower from match that max making now is gonna be in reach of the gold - of Hera and yes yeah so like max has all counted whose needs right now I Sarah Hera nice is Michelle I'm not sure why is nothing best in the city shop it's so important for him right now he's just gonna do it ECE or what week he doesn't have stolen this is a true shop there we go three minutes too late but it's there yeah garter but the thing is now now max this car tower the manga knows aren't as effective anymore yeah powerful max this is looking great for max again I think score the points behind yeah looking good you're right if the Macan ELLs would have been out now it would have maybe denied that tower or at least stop to this tower from going up this each workshop is just a couple minutes too late I think max will get this guard tower up and it will range the gold which Hera needs to stay alive in this game thank husband for RAM that's a big miss play in my opinion I mean as long as it keeps an army leave like this should be over right but that's a decent fight for Hera it is a definitely good fight for sure yeah okay Hera that's good he's killed all the Pikes ya think max needs ballistics around like this well we'll be super important for him do you think max could have I guess it's tough for max to justify his own siege workshop because because there's nights out but I think he almost needs its own Mac and L behind his walls another Ram I think the RAM will work out at least for now Piper and Hera has deleted maxi's calls the gg I didn't expect that yeah well I still popular difference was still pretty huge I just felt like max could have done a little bit more with his position there yeah I think I think honestly when they when max hit Castle age like if I look at this game I think I want to be max yeah so a little bit strange to me how like he also had zero up Chrisman's pikemen still so I guess upgrade investment was with it off he went bought canary I mean look at his resources yes a lot of Reese was a bank he could have done a lot I could have done up graze on the pikemen he could have made more Packman coulda made a manga no I still think if he just didn't okay talk us through it so I think the biggest issue there for max was he wanted to take her off gold way too soon what equip done was to upgrades make more pikemen it a suitable shop get a manga now and then continue the pitar push hell didn't have an answer to that he didn't have to answer to like ass creep of to three more towers yeah there's an angle out there if just more pikemen but max just wanted to take him off immediately and that ended up being the game losing decision pretty much it was almost the race to this each workshop in a sense they give Eddie if he had the siege and the towers to back it up I think Maggie Nell and pikemen would have killed Harris in early castle age or at least sorry just just killed the Knights and they took who knew that he had so we were talking about Harris each workshop but max really once well but you're right maybe not build the towers it's early maybe go up a glass like a stir until done later honestly I think everything max needed there he didn't need like he could have just stayed in the in the middle and then it won't you manga knows because Hera was going for RAM right as long as your guard tower Mangan is not gonna work out if you have Manganiello yourself Rams are not gonna work out either yeah so everything here max neither was one manga no and then keep making pikemen do some upgrades and then pretty much take it from there I really just started the next game and I'm not even out of this game yet so oh man you know what it's like to be a caster now man I can't tell you how many times it has happened to me you really you really got into like an analyzing groove there that was great because it's like to me like I get annoyed when or not annoyed frustrated when I see this yeah I mean in this spot is obviously okay I'm it's super tempting to get a tower up immediately to take him off goal right yeah if it would be such a cool move if he was able to be to stay calm and like think it through because if you manage to do that then it's a really impressive read of the situation pretty much do you manage to actually make the decision that okay yeah I know his lone Gold I have guard house in the middle if I just make one to Mangano's there's no way he's gonna break that yeah so like I love it when I see like thought-out decisions like that that's really cool to me yeah but it's crazy how it can switch cuz we thought Max's position was so good he had denied that wood line he'd done really good I really think I took a quick land to the achievements after that game I think his Makarova just because the whole because he was behind every resource except for gold and yeah so that that's a sign that his eco wasn't there but but anyways we have a crop list this is a slab war Max is in the blue again a hair is in the red they're playing for $1,000 the winner of this best-of-seven will get 750 bucks and the loser will get 250 so this is an aggressive map I would expect to see maybe some man-at-arms or towers or just some out-and-out Scouts with Slavs a viper what are your thoughts on Acropolis because I know that a lot of pros feel like it's a very hard map to balance obviously with like the wood line and the gold positions yeah so I mean all you need to do at the moment is Harris limbic am is great at wooden yes fantastic but look at the Maxis map he does have this corner wood line which is okay but if you look around his map otherwise there's like to get wood for him is so far away from his town center yeah well Harold just had to go straight down the hill and he was there it so that can obviously feel unfair player but usually that is not the game deciding factor in this game in this map okay yeah it's something you need to focus on because most of your resources are going to be off of your Hill so you do have a main goal in the main stone up there you do have someone to live with but as the game goes on it's all about expanding which is why it's an aggressive map um Hara Hara has one two maybe three solid wood line options max has one that's solid he's already walling himself off from that woodland so yeah yeah so yeah well we'll see what he ends up going for but this could be good for hair I think he has a slightly better map he won the previous game by the way you got it wrong okay yeah so you have to do you have to guess here as well but we could easily see Hera win this game and take it to game number seven on Arabia which hair would prefer yeah I think I was gonna win this game oh okay going with hair this time I want to see the seventh game there's no what I'm supposed to say yeah yeah we want more games yeah I'll be casting with five hours I'm dead tired one seven games yeah well that's that's why we get excited when we cast your games cuz it never goes to seven so sorry sorry I'm doing it for you guys have you ever you did like that what that you're doing it to save us time exactly yeah I know casting is hard it's hard work man yeah I mean if you think about hidden cup two numbers my stream would have never hit 17,000 if it didn't go to game seven well clean it so thank you for the comeback thank you for downloading yeah because I think at Game four in that series it was at thirteen thousand so it spiked up four thousand just because of your your comeback so thank you you're welcome yeah hold you know it is triggering for me as a caster though when someone's like all Viper was just trying to make it interesting yeah go for let let max win yeah the first four games or whatever or three games I understand that that's a very foolish thing to say oh no as a second number game right yeah it looks like it okay yeah I think this is just gonna be Scouts open from both Max's again he's taking this super safe approach but I feel like this approach on a map like this where you can have such better wood on the bottom yeah it might come back and bite you in the butt a little bit I mean of course it seems like three manages to do a lot of damage on Hera because jerez down on the floor so to say yeah of course it might be worth it but long-term you get away with it definitely better being in the low ground yeah so that's what will come down to a max is investing in so many walls which is protecting an area he won't want to be at for a long period of time at least when it comes to lumber of course well Hera he has his barracks up hill places stable max will most likely be doing the same he did scout Harrah's base he also sees where that lumber camp is now it's not easy to do when Scouts are out and about but if Scout numbers are low for Hera maybe max considers to send a few villagers forward in tower that's very common on this map to the die the excuse me the wood lines yeah mmm I'm sure I mean Hera you should know by now my sis what full of water Leone every single game yeah I'm not sure what Terra's I mean Harrah's in the position them to have to make the decision okay how much are me to actually make because I need enough to defend myself yeah and I can't I don't think I can do damage to him right especially with Scouts which can teleport past walls most of the time so question then is how does Hera approach this knowing that he's creamers just gonna defend this wouldn't for now I think that nice could be to like wall in his would line altogether like just in a little bit of circle and then have a gate in there that could work with a cycle never play maps like this I would just refuse I hate those little walls around I hate that yeah I mean if you look at this like he could walk from the house to stable a stable house and then like just yeah around it's a nice gonna circle them I mean if you look at max it's not as big as that circle so good point max has his starting scout outside of his walls it probably needs a Spearman yep there's a Spearman and another Scout will come out max also did learn all the deer before he went up so his economy is slightly better early on here okay yep some good hits from arrow though so the Scout Oath me so far is definitely in favor of Hera yeah and good micro I expect Oh fancy there yeah I know they're probably still in a nice spot but yeah he tried his best to distract his spear and pick off the scalp but that's that's a sign of confidence right yes I feel like if hair is doing that kind of stuff it's it's that it feels yes his mojo back yeah yeah feels like he's playing well so he's trying to do those things I mean flicker Harris base he's always a big farm setup if it was just needs like two bills on gold now and then he can go to cast rich this laughs yeah and if you look at Max's base he's just got like six seven farms up so I think really good for Hera honestly with the way the economies are set up yeah then again Hera didn't have the the 600 feet from the gear yeah but you know long-term right he has the better wood location he also has more farms so long-term they'll be much better off very good usage of the Scout stuff in Hera always keeping track of Max's cows he was staying oh that's not too good though i James death toll I think I told well say he was like patrolling their topside because he expected max to come in there which he was right yeah so yeah good luck James since I feel like a bit of walling there would be good from the edge of the map to the TC or to the house in DC that would be really useful because then all the pressure comes in towards the wood line it's so much easier to protect there's no point at all leaving that gold that Harrah's taking now so exposed Cyril recent to that okay so a lot of spearmen now for the max setting them forward and his Scouts are looping around now era is hoping to catch these are alt Oh Harris livid lucky here he has no skeleton spear let's say sending one now but Max's Scouts we're on the left side they could have jumped in at the verge of there it is what I mean like Hara knows he can't do damage to max so his whole game right now is just okay I need to defend with the minimum amount of investment pretty much yep dad so it's important that he tracks what max is doing at all times exactly it's gonna be better for Hera but good hit from max really needs more spearmen here but hair is trying to catch him off with his own two Spears so so far this has been perfect for Hera yeah I think it's looking really good for another hit there nicely and look at his resources yeah 600 food he's gonna pick up to cast a students wheelbarrow finishes and Max is at 175 huge difference it's crazy yeah Hara is averaging more wood and more food income right now a capture rate says 250 what a minute for Hera and 350 food it's just 190 would form ax + 3 now it's around 350 therefore max with food hello didn't have his blacksmith ready so unfortunately this guy first time was a little bit delayed but still we still have like a two-minute lead on the max there max just moved to cold as well so Kanna economically Harrah's death and in a way better job here compared to max I also think there's a keel barrel yet yeah he does max doesn't have wheel but max does have more Scouts so this would be the moment Hera didn't wall which I still don't understand yeah well how well and then he couldn't show up the quick balls yeah that's true this is this is a lot of scouts men he still has one more at home he's getting bloodlines max needs to make this count he needs to go in soon but not now oh so close sorry he's lucky man forging is on the way as well for her I love the forging addition because forging helps the Spears it also helps his Scouts and the Knights will be creating you already did it to Mexican as well my max is heavily committing delicious under 100 food in this Bank so just ball in your resources man when you see this blood lines you see forging you need to make sure you're safe oh my god if he if he loses these bills I think it should be a time series hey should we find her but it just makes life so much more difficult exactly sure he had to be a minute earlier he could have spent a couple seconds holding these guys in yeah all the scouts will now go to the right where there's some farmers but I think hair is done a really nice job he has more kills he might lose a villager or two but he's in castle age max is a response I mean that still is untouched right the rest untouched economy yep so my office is not the envelope for him and he's also moved to the woodland in the left corner now so Carol needs to try and find out a way to do damage of course he only lost one military Stein he didn't lose much at all yeah still in a very good position but he needs to like okay you're in Castle age earlier what are you gonna use for pcs need to come up the economy spike at the chicken yeah well there we go there's the TC for Hera on the wood line and a TC on the gold as well it's interesting there's a good decision also it means that less less economy is invested on top plateau so the same but if you have two pieces on the top suddenly you have twice the population their abilities and that's where the resources run out so I like the decision to me it feels like max might also play the pikemen areas adding more spearmen it's gonna play Knights but I think like a knight pikemen play can be really interesting within us network I think if he's just waiting for Knights Hera is so much more time to mask them so whereas you can make spearmen and upgrade them to pike once you hit Castle age yeah I think now is can hair I'll do any counter damage anywhere I don't think he will be able to get into anywhere max is super safe everywhere you can just run in quick the wall beetle yeah Knights come so Harrell needs to use just minutes to like pull ahead an economy I'm not available go down on the right side chiki chiki chiki move from max indeed now Harris Scouts that corner he could possibly micro down a few villagers there's quite a few spirits but he sees the lumber camp that's big great scouting from era I love that yeah there's also a thing and do you really want to run into 8 spearmen ever now no matter what you have yeah I also would upgrade so I don't think Hera can justify attacking this especially max does pikemen which I guess he will do because he has some roosters yes so max is gonna fall behind economically he he's not in cat well sorry he is in castle age but he's not on three T C's so do you think he almost needs to go forward with this each workshop like maybe Pike monk siege or do you think that he could just fall to a second and third TC himself think if it keeps making pikemen the key is right now yeah and I think it makes sense to like follow the villagers siege maybe monasteries okay I mean again his hair is already doing handcart he's gonna be have a super strong economy and max he like the thing here as well since max was late to Calais she doesn't have any map control he's kind of forced to make tea sees and places he doesn't really want to right yeah like this like you said earlier the good thing about building pcs in the center is that you have less on the hill max is gonna have that problem potentially but three TCS for him yeah a lot of pikemen a lot of nights should Hara go do you think you can just go Knights and monks to defend from pikes and knights or do you think you should consider work I think Knights I said oh this is so unnecessary why leave this gap open it's such an easy that decision I will never understand no matter what it's weird yeah I think for the time being of course I think Knight monk is fine for him but he will have to see if pike if the pikemen sees monk push comes in he might have to change the spin a little bit yeah he's still looking an amazing spot right now already lost two villagers he lost two villagers and had idle time that was totally avoidable no I also feel like his eco is very gold heavy he does not need that many villagers on gold is gold in the center and gold at home so perhaps if max's eco balance is better the max could could shift that into something really strong there are also picked up two relics over it which is a little oops oh yeah long-term he also sees two more relics does not see them final relic maybe he's already carrying it cuz I don't see it either oh yeah monks about to die I mean Harrah's he's been spot on here he's done a really good job or the game economically has been really good now it's a conversion now he's starting to wall off the top side which he should have done twenty minutes ago well he's also picking up all the relics so he's looking in prime position to bring this into post-imperial in like being an amazing positioning post in paradise well so do you go do you go faster to em put three CCS and not go to stone or do you start going to stone at this stage to like secure your map a bit with a castle if I was Hara and house shoes I would probably go to stone because I want to yeah do a defensive castle in case I got pushed yeah but Hara is now doing monk upgrades as well max is doing chainmail armor and his senate village is forward so the monk siege pikemen push is looking very likely to happen now yeah if you compare farm accounts most actually has more farmers so food-wise yeah definitely looking like Maxis balancing is equal slightly better at this point yeah that that TC on the goal that was the only reason it confused me was because I know from experience adding a second TC on goal and I already have a bunch of gold miners means that I won't have the wood in the food I might need you know if I practice one of the big takeaways I got from watching your tournament games is when you go to stone that you you would have gone to stone already in Harry's position because you know you have a lead yeah and right when it gets dicey right when max snowballs a push against you you build a castle and then you go in yeah oh now he's getting minute arms that's really interesting interesting the thing is mine ours as well if max sees micro at some point yeah an arms can suddenly prove to be like a super waste investment not to mention that max still has some nights here as well so with probable micro he'd be okay this is quite a few nights from Hara though good first shot yeah this is I mean village account as well as only five different max is doing a bigger job to come like into this game again it's making all the right moves to be able to like stay in the game and apply pressure good job eight by Hera here but Hara is gonna have ten idle villagers in that TCA the rest of the game now yeah well let's see if we can get it uphill shot will he delete this manga no he will not those opposed let's see what one what what oh the target fire me I mean he got it in the end anyway but parody target partner so sometimes actually my crane can't hurt you yeah the problem sometimes doubts out there like uh-huh rule 4 months though this can be huge mega no again not the barracks I mean the finger is max already has all the infantry upgrades he can just easily switch into one of them self yeah I mean once as soon as he sees the long source would not surprise me if max also immediately a quiz long source himself and look at that the left side for max 11 village is going to drop another counselor in the middle really unfortunate for max how far the woodlands are in the center with them yeah doing a really good job so far where's Herod going I feel like this okay so heroes plan is to defend with mumps and long swords and and counter-attack with Knights it's actually not a bad plan it's risky but I think it's it's possibly the game-winning move if he gets in and does damage yeah for sure I mean this that's 1679 state they can do so much damage oh well the TC will go off the maxis light just let him let him know the Knights are coming in yeah yeah that's really good if he sees this that's really important max anymore goes forward I think he wants to do a castle drop as well now he knows yeah the Knights are there no that's unfortunate for Hera Harrison with him though he did bounce is he come economy a lot he has over 40 farms now so economy wise hair is looking very sharp again when that castle it's not a very confident castle place yet is it it's a very strange that's a castle if you make if you were head it's not a panic if you were behind that's a good point nájera continues to go in despite max seeing him a nice walling for max I think this is okay just the fact that he got that TC up was good he's sending all of his pikes back if he wants to gate this off on uh never mind Terra will probably get away anyway that's that's a ridiculous little olds army is made and he's only got 27 and he's up to people it's insane how this farm yaks so scale mail now for Hera more barracks so he is going towards champion wouldn't at all surprise me to see him still go for Cavalier Cavalier in the dope on the front stereos okay I thought you were like pulling the the t90 move and making a big deal about a female villager dying no it was six monks in a line and menos handle would have been sexy yeah well Harris for relics for Hara and he probably won't stag the fifth but he's still in a great position he wins this we go to game seven yeah nice woven back so far really good not alone she's no no I mean I like charismatic control outside of the channel in like the tunnel in the center right yes Cub Scouts the Spearman on top keeping some sort of mission he just needs to find out what's his army compensation gonna be I don't know if her if max no she has it's going to be long sword I mean he sees barracks now suggests you might have been that annoy honest it's all all sorts at all yeah I saw making bogey ours if he's making Bowyer's he he's probably expecting it but Scalise corpse hmm few scorpions okay I like the move if you like if you while use a few and those siege workshops well I think I think how Hal band scorpions can be like straight two-handed swordsmen for sure yes agreed first max needs to agree with the threat of 28 nights on his door door yeah it's fine so far he does have enough fighting to do with it where did here a build his castle what do you think that castle spot his castle is kind of away from his army not a huge fan of that castle spot I would have liked to have seen him build it where his two-handed swords but are right now and then TREB from the same position but here he comes CJ I'm on the way to hand swordsman in the boyars are coming out I think that castle is reminds me of the cast of Maximo Asus game very much is a little bit strange but it might go somewhere kim inchul nice swimming is what i mean the park grab transitions are nice too coming into support as well this castle definitely should go down yeah question is now what max has to answer otherwise yes like 25 pikemen standing on the bottom side as well as wooden so yeah that's a lot of scorpions that has a lot of scorpion scorpion spikes C buggers aren't all that good against the Knights yeah and he was going he's doing the up quest doing the upgrade as well for horses which is he wanted to go more boyars they only had one Kasper macaws has gone up so we call this for bid just did work against the two-handed swordsman it is so sick Hera does have C dream in here but but where's Hera Garros corpse are doing somewhere Wow now Harrah's is going for some more monk upgrades so maybe he'll convert some of those but he kills the castle the Rams will go down the two hundred swordsmen have to back up good play for max I think but Harrah's position still is much stronger he has the relics I couldn't even grab the fifth Terra does not have mercy no was he right no he doesn't now remember there was a game in this series where Hera had the relics true and he had a really good position in kal position and he threw that game verse max so I know a game and does he actually have the composition right now well that's that's what I was gonna say like at the moment he needs to find that composition but we'll see I think I think auditor I think auditor champions fine but I think the worrying thing is it looks like Max is gonna start raiding yeah and it will put hair on the backfoot big time I love my system of adding those stables and just like he's playing the long game always he's like thinking okay yeah sure the it's a stalemate now in the middle not much it's gonna happen there so what what's the next step to just start raining spread your cavalry everywhere you have slabs farmers you can make 100 Tussar with ten farms so you're fine he's on the gold now doing a lot of damage the system still has to melt early obviously Islanders can help them to deal with I assume he will add on just himself oh my god this is I'm getting gauged I'll view at the moment I heard because because Hera has two castles in the same spot he could have used a castle where he's getting raided right now this is a big problem for him and and he has all these relics but we know how good max can be without gold and and in these late-game scenarios and Max is also dropping monasteries he's gonna start converting those honors as well yes Max is making like Hera puts himself in a great spot to couple these games but then he just like struggles to figure out how to end the game like what our mechanic what what exactly should he do that like sort of like he it's like it doesn't know right maybe he's like lighten the experience maybe it's just if you play this it's more these maps more and these things well do you think it's it's he wants to finish off the game in one fight whereas he should be looking at it for and like like it's a mini engagement every time like take small victories adds up towards the winter sort of one big fight with C dreams and champions yeah I don't know I mean the push she made in the middle was obviously just a clear castle in me game yeah that controller look again how he made his two castles both hammer in the same spot doing the same job pretty much that castle could have been on the hill with a Trevor standing right now for example it could have been a castle on the top like he said oh my God look at it look at his lumber eco look at his lumber disaster mm thanks one no I was just gonna say he's making house but max is just running all run max might control the wood to win this game yeah he's there was a colonies complete shambles right now that's the thing max he recognizes when he has time to do these other things right he recognized okay I'm not gonna thread through the center right now I can't hold like this so he spreads his focus elsewhere and max he thinks about it earlier yeah max has shown this game after game now whenever he goes to paralyse he's just ready for that transition way sooner or later paris is shooting the traps now traitors traitors that was his moment to try and push the center and max at another conversion another conversion the scorpion fish shoot I mean again max just has the tools to hold an assembler and is using the mobility to raid inside working population harris behind his villagers it has two rebloom constantly keeping up keep making more bills yeah and yeah I think Harris still struggling to actually figure out what are my company wants doesn't even have full of croissants in country yeah he hasn't like there was a period in time where he had the lead he had the relics but he didn't think ahead he just thought about like one big flight in the center aisle of how max has has been able to show us how to play the game despite being at a disadvantage at least like when I say disadvantage at least with the relics and mine the gold control and such because there's a lot more gold under Harris control at the moment I mean he was behind the economy as well early game so yeah yeah for sure I mean he's like it's he's making the right moves to slowly climb back in grabbing he's grabbing whatever he can wherever he can it's also waiting in the bottom now even top rating the backs is everywhere yeah this is crazy and now drew Xena's all the way from Max Wow drew Xena for pikemen are you kidding me mmm-hmm alright let's go crazy we just look at the farm max has 48 50 farmers Hera I mean it's a lot of idle Serra who needs to sort that out but again there's life cap coming in constantly so he's never made time to rely love max's post and play man stables in the south spamming now he's making stables or sorry barracks actually in the north look at the bottom corner yes three bills chillin there he's ready to remake buildings as soon as I think it's calm down oh my god well the scorpions have been protecting the center area they will continue to do so the HERA will have no luck rating he he's spending a lot of time cleaning up the rates in his own base I think that's why the military population is so deceiving at the moment Piper because Hera has twenty thirty units just protecting farms and wood lines nothing is pushing I like her like honestly if max just makes champion I will talk she makes twenty third champion there with arson you can just completely white yeah Harris based there as well I don't think it's gonna spend the golden that I think he'll keep the gold for other things but yeah I mean I like the liked Harris army comp or the cast led with a champion but he needs to like figure out not what's the follower what's next can stick with just helps in Champions yeah I feel like the second that Hera decides to push max in the center with with this with infantry and siege max will just send more population to raid again yeah a nexus house something stable is now in the bottom where's oh my god I would die if he chops that one tree and this wood line so we could run through it'd be amazing I mean look at the farm counter Max's have so many more of working farmers yeah as long as he's managed student [Music] well yes is 1300 food coming in every minute it's only 600 for Hera Sahara Zico balance is way off in comparison max just just sent like four champions walking slowly towards Harris tribes and he just took out a tribe and a half this fourth brought random champions I was one I was wondering why you're making noises that's ours this coughing I tried to mute we never have to cough but yeah I know it's I feel a bit bad because this has been such a long series I figured we'd be in and out and you could rest no this off right here yeah he's getting he's getting champion upgrades max Harris now getting through Xena but Hera hasn't been fighting with his infantry in crucial areas is just defending exactly I mean the score is very deceiving here Harrison won't kiss goalie but that's because he's the town who's the one who's killing all the unis yeah Max is completely picked at in the game at the moment Wow I think Maxwell he build a castle or did he run all the way over here with these villagers for would think it's just for woods honestly that bottom part is not that secure so it makes sense to move there for loot seas were shot from Hera though any champions the pair invests a lot of his champions melted topside he's taken a good fight in the middle as well The Hustler there anymore Terrence Foley I mean with four relics that should be five relax at this yet yeah like at some point nice is gonna be out of gold and champions are just gonna dominate everything yeah like is the Eco paying off now for hair because max couldn't push fast enough he is castling the north but hair will still have wood and he'll have the gold as you said maybe if that food eco stabilizes a bit he'll be in a better position like max is only getting two handed swordsman now I'm liking her us position more and more now that he managed to see Atlas it was looking very messy there for a second but he's actually stabilized today well now and as soon as like yeah the Gold's gold is completely out of the map I think max has zero golden come right now he shouldn't have any because he doesn't yeah zero yeah so like max he's on a timer now he has to kill heroin in the next couple of minutes really if an era has 70 military it's only 50 for the max and much of Max's military these scorpions which was really slow so you can't push with him easily if he tries to push with them a he'll get pushed cuz he won't have defense and he's getting he's losing a lot of buildings in the bottom side lots of town center there the scorpions are just moving through the center of the map and wicked being able to cast those different nights going down on the top so he's looking very good for Hera and honestly looks like we have him game 7 on him yeah and I think the frustration comes in for me anyway is because we could see where Hera became unraveled it's in a winning position and we could see so clearly how he almost threw the position but so good now 30 population lead 20 military leader also has the better composition at least for the moment yeah I think Hera as well I mean this is I think even just these two games is huge a huge learning experience for Hera like the Gulf Gaming I think I'm sure he's gonna think about that a lot yeah and realize what you did wrong and this game as well I'm sure is gonna think about it I wonder like why did this game end up being so close you need to play these types games even if you lose them like the golf Anita it's such a good learning experience yeah I feel like Hera is definitely like definitely one of the best when it comes to Dark Age fuel age even the early Castle age but it's the transition from castle age to imp that gets him yet sometimes is all by scorp numbers of max as well as Ben was shortened out to like just 11 sports yeah and he's getting cleaned on the bottom side and sneaky stable so gonna be gone Sasori is losing the top side this is just looking better and better for Hera with every passing second yeah he's producing more that the key and in these situations is having the Rams and Max's making Rams and oh man the auditor will flatten all the scorpions that we're gonna die anyway I think that's a good time mr. max - right yeah g-gee okay didn't work but yeah it won't be as dramatic now I tried that choice yeah well I mean considering how he won that Inc against golf game it's understandable it he doesn't give up that's that's a good point yep it's a good point he actually cooked through now with knowledge of the woods so he shouldn't sneak him to the top I mean it was open anyway but go cute yeah 150 puppy now funny enough he's making huh stars but he can't really get in I think if Hera would just build a castle maybe in the center or maybe more towards the north that would prevent some of those raids but max isn't in control now he's not in a position to send any of his population in the Hera's base he has to defend and you can't defend from champions and help switch ffs are it's looking I mean he's losing on every single front now yeah max is the top side is gonna be clean to his idol like all this farming when when the top of the plateau is idle he's trying to move down to the bottom side again now he's trying to make a lumber camp with the ramps are coming right away to shut that down again he's trying to raid but her did place a nice cast alone to talk so Herod did a good job securing his base after those early shenanigans oh you mean this the castle on his hill yeah I like the constant it's like where the person wants to run through yeah yeah now if we look at the food per minute Hera is at 1,400 feet per minute max is at 800 and I think what Hera needs to do is just clean up the north he's already cleaned up the south and then it will be one big fight in the center which you will always win yeah that's true why max isn't residing to be honest because he doesn't have a single relic it feels very much over but and he's struggling to pass on the pick the population offices and stay over 150 I think if you were to dip at least for me if I maybe he's an autopilot I'm not thinking about it but if I ever dip below like one 120-130 that's when I start to think is this for sure over I think it's gonna realize when he loses the top side stacks tables along the edge of the map at the bottom but either this is top second all the rhapsode and I've seen that all the biases on it's gonna be a lot of that villagers I think that yeah I realized education it's about to dip below and the villages as well yeah yeah the center yeah exactly this next has no answers here anymore so Arabia let's let's talk about Game seven because it's for sure coming at this point Arabia they can obviously play with any civilization they have not used in the best-of-seven [Music] there are terra Mayans and max cough my oh my god oh my god I was thinking Frank spot sleeper Hera the problem is right you later baby but it will fry yeah you're likely to run into Mayans either way here yeah 95% 95% of the players are gonna pick mines in that situation yeah question then is do you actually have a sieve that you can compete with mines with only one that comes to mind is Franks and even then it's iffy right yeah if players are really playing cutthroat with meso Civ it that could be better than Frank's for sure yeah I like I think - is a safe safe bet I think max is going to go - for sure Hera I'm I think he like loves mines as well I think yeah it has to be mines war I can't see any other since competing all right well 507 kills for Hera it was dicey for a second but man was his futile age good he didn't make life easy on himself with the lack of walls but he played really good so he'll go into Game seven feeling confident he was 3-1 down I think this is a big take away with hair recently he falls behind in sets and Hera two years ago might get tilted might get frustrated and then let that ruin the rest of the set for him but he came back impressive stuff yeah it's definitely matured a lot us player [Music] I don't think what all the steps we might see and think Huns could be an option but then again if you can choose between Huns against any sieve against Minds you would like to have mines yourself pretty much maybe ethics it's not real too many options there so yeah I think we're in for mines war but again I would never like Franks grates if they can always compete a little bit unsafe steel but mines should be there yeah I think I think as well I think the only saves that we'll see here would be Mayans or maybe Frank's like maybe but like slabs is gone Aztecs is gone yeah we'll see you later if it's cool with you if I could just motor cell phone discord for a few minutes I'll be right back on the game starts yeah I'm here pick a site yep all right if I can find them you're not muted hair man okay you're Michael thank you so much for 250 embers nice GG three three who will pull it off and take the money I think Mars was coming fifty Putin thank you for the four months as well I think mine is worse coming should be close game I think both players can win a gold stones append-only $25 please send me to jail okay let me check sorry for the coughing I don't know if that was actually your Goldstone's I'm not that was actually or not but I do appreciate that don't know anyway I'm gonna run a pee quickly guys and when we get back with him cast Game seven of the best-of-seven show match between her and max it's going on for a while then expected lasted long but good stuff has been good games both players are playing good Sawyer I'll take a few minutes guys quickly they might have a small break as well I think is a good moment for us as well have a short break you you all right so I imagine I'm you did only present but you know who come in when he gets the chance this is game number seven in this Big Show match here today a max is in the blue he's playing us Mayans and Harrah's also playing as the mayans expect a lot of laning expect a lot of emotion on qotsa and everyone still has a restart lane then they could always go for that it's been cuts yeah hashtag September indeed half off guys ha he's been on ha what tamami I have a feeling Vipers there and listening me all right now I don't I don't know but yet again I thought is it oh hey what's up yeah okay so hidden cup - Arabia Mayans war surprise surprise yes and Hera getting the better map yet again so look here I think so anyways I mean stone and a Mayans where I don't know if stone is as quite as important if it's like Aztecs versus Mayans but but certainly to have the stone in the back is nice and I think the wood line options are better what is max doing with these villagers look what's he looking for would the Republican fella reached I think this is a restart for sure yeah I went up to that smell terrible yep yeah the woman's are so far yeah I might still ready out in the game so I think we can just go back okay cool yeah so I think it's one restart for both of them wouldn't surprise me to see Hera call one if he has a rough map next time around but you know game seven all comes down to this you really should call restart yeah no point taking a risk at this point you come so far no point yeah poof he was three one up as well yep that's I'm saying hair should enter this map and feeling super confident no I mean although a last game think if I played a game like that I probably wouldn't care but like if you if you let your opponent's get into the game like that again after having yeah quite elite it doesn't do something to you I mean I think max could arguably be more confident even though he he led a 3-1 lead slip just because he no relics and almost came back but it depends on how the person views it every mind is different agreed yes sir this is essentially one game for 500 dollars right because the loser gets 250 when I get 750 but I think more than anything these guys just want like the prestige of it all pretty much if Viper and I could share some some news about Age of Empires two different in addition we would guys totally you sound so enthusiastic about good exam everything oh yeah I tried to explain like it's it's some of the Age of Empires pros like I tried to explain the way their personality works compared to mine like I've never seen you like roll on the floor laughing like full-on laugh for more than like five seconds but I could tell like when I get a giggle out of you that's like compared to myself it's very different yeah I really like burst out laughing yeah I'll more like I do it all the time laugh for myself a little bit like like small inside inside yeah yeah yeah I rarely like burst into laughter but when I do that in Christ a Norwegian thing I don't know I mean the reason is in general our very like we're not very outgoing people in general fair enough we're we don't like strangers no offense everyone that's right [Music] no I don't know I guess I think I think it's probably just just how you guys grew up you know sort of you know I've never had I've never had that I know a lot of people like look at Jordan for example if you laughs he would be like can't control himself but and it's very it's very aggressive too it's true so it can't be a German thing right it has nothing to do with you moving to Germany of interest mr. Jordan and John Jordan the next he had the ten-second I little time is TC before I started loom I said I had the same as weird I guess they did houses been scouting first and then yeah I'm sure you do loom and then house house scout well I guess is anyways maps look a little bit more balanced than he maximally happy to see the wood lines but the hill could be certainly be a problematic area for him I think max is not gonna be happy day he's got forward berries which is always tough against men at armed builds whereas Hera has like the back berries right I think just the this Hill in general is going to give him the problems because of the stone and the gold yeah would not surprise me to see Mexico forward here like his map is just too it's like if you don't have control of the front space you lose access to three of your main resources yeah of course he has to back old but that's that's about it right the second stone is even closer to her than himself pretty much it's also a bit unlucky because he's running forward the hair his base hair has found all of his sheep where am I find his boar he does never restart oh he sees it he sees it oh this could be huge always going for it is he he might not want to take that doesn't scouted his own board if I don't think Hera was a tick oh he's because he's thinking about okay it seems pretty far so he's gonna go for it okay what's your wait hold on a second back straight no they could just boar swap but ideally max could block that and kill the eagle No I want to see a repeat of what happened to you an MDL just passing oh that both biggest trading it was trading it's good I think it's good for the game at least that came seven that no one has extra board yeah well that was that was a funny moment max hadn't even scouted his board so this is almost easier for him yeah but what do you can I get your brief opinion on laymen cuz because what I hate for example is one person losing AB or having a slightly worse map and then they have then that's the end of the game you know I hate that do you think that because I know that the who is number two event had some restrictions on lay me do you think there should be restrictions on naming were like at least in one be ones possibly I think there shouldn't be a restriction still aiming but I think they need to do a better job at making things more fair in general yeah yeah like blaming I'm fine with layman's part of the game but again like it's just completely look placed yeah run exact word and run into four of your enemy sheep and aboard that's not skill that's you sent to Eagle right forward the right way good job yeah exactly yeah I'm kind of torn out as well yeah so like for example sorry to interrupt as these Eagles are fighting this is huge this is really close I think Oh heroin's I think max is in big trouble he barely has scouting a Paris base yeah yeah this is already looking very very good for era yeah and and Terra has the kind of the better map as well but anyways like it's so hard especially with arabia's to find a map that's gonna be balanced all the time I think hidden cup to Arabia is definitely the worst map and hidden cup because it can be very inconsistent at times even though I had like lots of players testing it and stuff prior to to the events so it's it's it's a hard thing it's like the beauty of Age of Empires is that it's so random and so different all the times but also that can kind of lead into some rough situations for players I mean I love the randomness of age there's always - or every map is different every game is different of course no one likes to lose a game state up just because of luck yes exactly I like that part to be in there but I wish it was a little bit less of a turn-off yeah yeah but it's it's tough to balance right like what do you do put boars and sheep closer to tc's prevent laning then it's it's like a fast castle all the time you know yeah it's like the old green Arabia so I think if they could just make it in a way where okay both players have exact same distance of divorce on the gold other stone it can be different angles different position different this different that everything was in the same distance of both players make sense I was just curious to hear your opinion on it because I didn't think you've ever been outspoken against removing blaming or or stopping people from doing that but I know that there's always going to be some imbalances which can can be rough at times yeah I like I mean I don't like Leeming I don't like claiming I don't prefer to play against without naming because I feel like those are more skillful but of course let me as a part of the game yeah okay and there's ways to stop and deal with lambing as well you just have to take precaution they take your boards earlier scout better there are always ways to deal with things with yep but yeah in the old like I don't like Lee I mean sure well speaking of scouting Harrah's is using that week scout and he's in the process of walling up his base pretty clean build for him everything looks normal I'm saying sometimes yeah the first person to go forward can oftentimes benefit because they have a little bit more time at home I think max needs that but he can't run past that wood line without being hit hair added up for oh great start for Hera Hera also added a fourth militia max is going on the foot of three max I feel is gonna add arranged very fast I think they should cancel my arms but these max should I did a good job picking off one doll good job in max for sure the range should go up now he needs to warn the village as well yeah I'm still committing with the min arms I guess it's alright since he did manage to pick off one of the mine arms yeah I like what he's done with the right side of this wood line not investing into too agressive walls yeah just the safe walls same on the gold he should with a gate keep hair out from the wood line it might even tempt her to run in so he can shoot him with the TC wow it always makes me feel so good when my opponent Garrison's RTC for that long and they don't get any shots yeah both them adding an ox to intermediate this well I wonder if Hera will go with the same range of expert approach so kudos and range now well yeah that's what Hera did in Game one me so good at it he does it with with non mezzo sips as well max - max added another minute arm they almost sent it into the into his death I guess so far so I mean close game so far of course but here has taken the initiative hair is safe at home era can take the deer right so I think this is exactly like Game one Max had a rougher start and it's up to Harun al to take small advantages from his position both of them are going blacksmith as well range blacksmith and Harris already got touching on the way max is dropping a blacksmith now it's on the way it's a time we know here we're hurricane micro with his fetching archers so that's probably up he has to be very careful oh no max what also attacking that villager do you think that old kill that you gonna kill this one shot oh man the villager goes down I think it's worth it for hair to have dope in there this trap door YAG now the archers are there right so so now it's all about larger numbers and Hera picks off the archer now old micro all day this is looking really bad for the max will lose a villager as well he doesn't have called question yet they add an eagle as well two eagles actually this yeah I like that choice actually we're now getting scale males to maybe a change of plans she's not gonna do flexing at all it's gonna go full Eagles okay I like it's interesting I don't think it's the best choice but considering the opening act don't ya just like it and maybe it's better because if he's trying to go straight archers will be behind in that you know and also he has four men arms alive still that will benefit from the upgrade as well yeah I missing a few screws to support me I like it they like it maybe affection would have been a better opening though yeah cuz if hereplease this correctly he'll never get hit yes exactly he's my crowing like a man with confidence at the moment isn't he is this really good work from here oh wow oh yeah like max missed elimination minute I should have been there as well evil again here as well this with a good addition for sure very very tricky for my I was doing flashing now okay will he have the skirm numbers is 3 there's like these are the toughest fights ninja vampires because it's just yeah three four units one mistake losses you the game yeah battles are really hard to play and I think a huge difference and Max lost so many scurbs just one people and he's four villages behind five villages behind right now it's looking really good for here oh yeah touched this that was really well played from Hera I got a whole transition everything about it was so clean yeah faster fleshing definitely caught my max completely off corner yeah and Harris economy at home is looking super nice as well it's about he's closing in on casters as well he's gonna do a wheelbarrow and and it's gonna be a pretty straight to pick up while Max is just scraping together whatever he has in or hit trying to survive so yeah I don't want to call it too soon it's yeah but it's not very good for me but how many times have we said that we've said that almost every game and then not it is bad music max in some of the games were max is one he's come back so Hera just needs to see this through man he's he's done everything right 16 kills 10 deaths Federico he just needs to see this through and win the best of seven it's little bit of shame though that last it comes down to the last game and then Max's map is just absolutely yeah I know so you have a shame yeah I'm with you there for sure hair is on the way because especially after calling the REE right yeah of course that's well he could have done better he could have done better with that or the push from here as well though O'Hare another who solve it X so he definitely cut some corner there yeah but I think I think there's a very clear difference between these two in those many micro engagements a era seems to be so much better in those situations so yeah I think obviously that the the hill on the front is going to hurt max but I think the micro-firm hair is always gonna give him a small lead especially if he gets the faster flat you like that yeah hair has definitely been that my comparison mess throughout the whole the whole series really yeah that's why it seems worse all Sousa voiding those types of fights he doesn't want to fight five hours against five arches you know was yeah tries to play safe and only fight when he feels like he can take a good engage no matter what move well I think max is gonna need a bit of help now Hera nice throw away numbers and and then some because Hera soon be in Castle age Max is just now researching wheelbarrow so clinical from Hera yep he also has those five arches in top six arches and they're gonna be crossbows as well and break through the pass that really fast and he I mean yes the leaves in every single aspects the game right now yep yeah max is Iike balanced this way off as well it's like he wanted to go Eagles so he sent more to Gold if I'm making one pair Eagles and I was on stolen winter storms he's feeling his powers to say I feel like the Eagle play honestly was a panic reaction to pressure yeah probably would make sense yeah if he was thinking about meeting these towers earlier would have been wise to go to stone it's just now he doesn't have the stone for a tower yeah and Hera will just micro all over and we have this honestly this looks like it might be GG right turn yeah cross was confusing sides everything is trapped honest he can even just run in on the tower there's nothing max can do except blue series yep yeah max still hasn't clipped up the castle age and Max a calls the hair comes back from three one down and wins the best-of-seven two very quick arabia games and this set and three very very long non arabia games but we finally got there viper it was it was really competitive really close I was definitely very close I mean very bad luck for max toe with the both away the game's his map was just sores both the ready games but of course era played those games with well as well and I mean max showed as well doing that and the inca goth were that's pretty much already a classic so they both have shown really high level of gameplay today well i don't know if you had anything else to say man but it was a pleasure having you cast with me for hours was it yeah there's been almost four hours yeah whoa well I I appreciate it man I know you're sick and there's every time having you here and everyone in the chat really loved your insight I'm never gonna become a casterman never okay my job is safe rough stuff oh well Hara outperformed economically every single way as Viper said he's had never category in both Arabia games and he wins 750 dollars max still gets 250 I think Max's late game is way better his late game his transition seems to be better than Harrah's hard to say because there are some other factors but Harrah's early game seems to be where he thrives and I think if both players can kind of solve those it's almost easier for Hera to solve the late-game problems and it is for max has suddenly become a micro nerd and futile age but yeah poor Hera for Max's life he's showing way better at long-term planning and Hera like IRA is very much playing in the moment and always reacting in the moment while max seems to be thinking more ahead obviously that's like the biggest issue I see between these players of course Hera also might bring better macro wise I think they're pretty similar so ok I think if they - if these two played the best of seven every day it would be like they would trade every other day the other person yeah there's some real moment on another day max has a slightly better map on game 1 or game 7 and it goes for 3 exactly well thanks for hanging out again man it was it was a blast I hope you rest up thank you yes joy rest your weekend best of luck for the rest of your how many hours you have left I'm not gonna look why I'm not as sick as you but I'm also sick so it's gonna be rough but probably like 18 hours left or something oh boy oh boy that's right well best of luck put that away man hope you either have a ghost quest room all right man we'll see it alright see you around bye bye you all right fat pigs in 14 what time is it I don't think I'm gonna play more as before hours I might throw up is already so dry and such we have a hook let my pants go we have a full patter to the zoo we are both cats visiting the doggy hello hp9 cats let's crush me yeah thanks for watching everyone I'm still recovering slow and steady trying hopefully I get better very soon tomorrow
