The US M-1910 Canteen, Cover and Some Derivatives

[Music] hello everyone bringing you a video today talking about a very humble piece of military kit military equipment but nevertheless a very influential one which is the us m1910 canteen we're going to be looking at the m1910 canteen and it's various offspring this is not exhaustive i mean a video which covered every variation would be ridiculously long this is just drawing on my collection that i've amassed of various different countries takes on the m1910 canteen obviously the move to plastic in the 1960s so i think it will be of interest to have a look through these hopefully will be anyway just to show the number of different variations there were and to look at some of the countries which have adopted the design modified it or otherwise been influenced by it because the m1910 canteen is a very influential design it's not only been copied it's also influenced other countries own designs and we'll be talking a little bit about that in the video and we'll get in to have a looking at some of these in more detail now okay so i said this is not going to be comprehensive and we aren't starting at the very beginning here i don't have a great war period bottle and cup nor carrier so we're starting the americans involvement during the second world war the m1910 canteen cup and carrie had essentially been standardized at this point you've got the plastic capper though earlier examples where the metal cap would still be in use the carrier as seen here is essentially that standardized upon during the great war so we have the m191 cover here in khaki and then in od7 the transition was made during the war there are also some detailed differences to construction as well looking at the car key example first this particular example is 1942 as you can see foley manufacturing company the reason for not having great war stuff essentially is because i've collected these relevant to those used by british commonwealth forces primarily as opposed to us use and so it starts really with the second world war and it's quite appropriate because from this point is when you'd see most of the other countries that adopted this design start to adopt it and during the cold war that would progress so we'll obviously get into that during the rest of the video lift the dots on the shoulder of the bottle here felt line cover as you can see this particular example tough to get out of this get the bottle out separately and pull the cup out if i can this is quite a tight fit in the cover aluminium cup dated 1945 if i remember correctly you just see on there perhaps if it will focus 1940 five hopefully you can see that it's not very clear the bottle itself canteen itself is dated 1942 just to the base there if we can see there we go interesting graffiti on it here as well this has won a variety of different versions of m1910 canteen and cup this is essentially you could see as the pre-existing standard of the two made in aluminium during the war there would be trials items you'd have both made in an enameled mild steel which works fine for the old british water bottle just bring that in here and it's felt cover um this these are enameled but with having the felt cover and everything the enamel is actually quite well protected from knocks and scrapes and being damaged and so forth if you have this where it's not only removable from the cover but you also have the two metal components cranking against each other you've got the inside face of the snaps the uh lift the dot fasteners here which can also impact on the enamel it just didn't work with this design of canteen it's fine for something covered in felt that doesn't really leave the carrier but the minute you've got two pieces of metal banging up against each other the enamel is just going to chip away so that was not a successful design you of course have the trials plastic examples that were made during the war as well which it was a brittle form of early plastic it was not food safe as we'd say today it did tape the water with it with a nasty taste so that was not a success either one variation that was a great success is the stainless steel we have an example of that here both the cup and the canteen made of stainless steel these tend to be marked on the bottom 1943. so this would become the standard post-war with the stainless steel version it's a very good material for making canteens off much of it's heavier it's a smoother material it's better more hard wearing than aluminium so it would become the standard so that's in the later pattern well slightly modified pattern of carrier in od7 fasten these down again there we go look at the back here you can see this is made in 1945 manufacturing company has a modified attachment for the hanger hooks at the rear with this strengthening piece over the webbing there so that's just sort of second world war through career and then through to the introduction of m1956 rather than looking at this in order of u.s production and then other countries production i'm going to try and go through it roughly in chronological order so we'll have a look at a couple of different patterns now which were introduced during and immediately after the second world war which were influenced by the usm 1910 design okay so the first two designs we'll look at here both come from the commonwealth this is obviously the british 1944 pattern and the canadian 1951 pattern the british deviates somewhat from the m1910 design but it's clearly inspired by it you have obviously left the dot fasteners on each shoulder of the carrier and obviously m1910 hanger hooks on the rear but it does also have a belt loop as you can see there this will also fit on the on the belt on the belt loop the carrier deviates from the m1910 design it's not lined it's just webbing and it does also have a pouch in the rear for the middle bank bag which is a filter bag you can see in the rear there you can carry a milbank filter bag in the rear hold that out of the way just pop that up there for the moment the bottle itself in british terminology rather than canteen obviously have a nest together in the same way butterfly handles on the cup which is a difference then the bottle itself is a somewhat different shape it has a much larger cap and of course this is the first pattern with the the metal cap originally these had a chain similar to us practice running from the cap to the the neck of the bottle the wire around the neck of the bottle that was very rapidly changed uh because it rattled and that's not ideal the cap can be a little bit tricky on these sometimes cross threading there we go that's it we'll get back to that you'll notice the noise that makes screwing in and out that would lead to a change which came about a little bit later on we have the 1944 pattern with its cover or carry it there the 1951 pattern is a lot closer analog of the us m1910 canteen and carrier as used during the second world war you can see on the back here we have this has actually been repaired at some point but we have the hanger hooks not reinforced just on a piece of webbing much like the khaki example we looked at previously we do have the addition of buckles on the side which means this could be attached to the brace ends because the 1951 pattern was akin to 1937 pattern and so you have those fittings there much as you would have had on the preceding 90 37 pound water bottle you have buckles on the sides and you have canada's a strange enclosed version of the lift the dot fastener but they are lift the dot fastness as you can see there so that's essentially copied across as well and this is felt lined as you can see in there with the stitching and everything else it is very similar to the m1910 design the canteen itself is a canadian copy of the usm 1910 complete with the chain and everything the same design of cap you can see the markings on the rear there it's 1957. see that so the 1951 patent a much closer analog of the m1910 and the british copy whilst we're on the subject of the 1944 pattern one other pattern will consider here which was introduced later in the 1950s it was 1956 if i remember correctly is the rubber cap version of the bottle this just has a bottle in no no cup or anything that the cover is the same but you now have a rubber cap and a different design of neck on the bottle which means that it is a lot quieter when removing you don't need a gasket or anything there you don't need a rubber ring an o-ring in there because the cap itself if we look here it is a hard rubber so it will compress slightly and that means it's watertight it doesn't make it doesn't make the noise inherent in having a metal cap scraping on a metal bottle and it seals itself so advantageous from that point of view that's just a variation for 1944 pattern that was introduced later on obviously retaining the much wider neck and so forth compared to the 1910. okay so continuing at the 1950s and moving over to continental europe we have dutch copies of the m1910 canteen and cover or adaptions thereof they are slightly different the covers are essentially direct clones as we'll see of late second world war us practice looking at them there's not a huge amount to differentiate there's no us marking of course on the rear we have the the later feature of the reinforced attachment for the hanger hooks there to lift the dot fasteners you take this out here you can see this is a later cup that i have on here but the canteen itself if i can pull this out of here is a dutch aluminium canteen with a rubber cap as you can see there again it's this hard rubber material the very first pattern i understand were made with a bakelite cap but they were quite quickly replaced with this hard rubber example during the course of the 1950s and then of course we have that in od for the the army we have this in blue grey for the dutch air force which was something carried across from british equipment making it in the the raf blue grey and the dutch followed suit and had a blue grey set of equipment for their air force as well but it is the m1910 canteen carrier design again with the reinforcement piece for the m1910 hanger hooks on the rear there so a very very close copy produced by the dutch during the 1950s so jumping back to the us now the progenitor all this stuff we have the m1956 web equipment comes into service in the late 1950s it moves away from equipment being slung under the belt using m1910 hanger hooks they were still compatible the belt would still accept m1910 hanger hooks on the lower set of eyelets the carrier for the canteen was redesigned and we no longer have lift the dot we now have snaps or press studs in british terminology but snaps in in us terminology and to the rear we now have slide keepers later to become known as alice clips because these would remain a part of us load carrying equipment for quite some time see the markings at the bottom here i believe this is dated 1960. you can see there quite a nice example this is an early example with the cotton edging during the course of the 1960s this would be swapped out for nylon so you'd have a hybrid production with the cotton and then a nylon engine around the uh the edges of all the upper part of the the carrier here the opening at the top this just contains a late war dated steel canteen as you can see and inside it is still lined with felt as you can see there so we've seen one of canada's adaptions of this design already in the 1951 pattern we'll move on now to the 1964 pattern and obviously this was introduced or designed in the early 1960s and introduced through the 60s many men would still be using the 1951 pattern for many years but it's a very close adaption of the m1956 which we've just looked at obviously we've had the swap from lift the dot fasteners to prestons or snaps still have the stitching and everything down the front the main difference is the swapping of the belt attachment from the slide keepers used on the m9056 to the hook and pile closure trade name velcro of course which it formed part of the 1964 pattern equipment and i have made a video looking at this in detailing why this isn't a good idea when you're trying to attach relatively heavy bits and pieces to a belt but you have a velcro belt loop at the rear there not very effective these would end up being taped in service to stop them coming adrift the design is lined with felt again as you can see it's essentially a direct copy of the m1956 but with a different belt fixture on the rear in this instance the canteen is a plastic example this is dated 1972 and as you can see it's a canadian made example my understanding is that canada actually introduced these slightly before the us did certainly they were introduced into u.s service in the early 1960s and many countries followed suit and these would become standard through the course of the 1960s and into the 1970s certainly in u.s service which we've just looked at you'd see a mix of these and metal canteens right through into the mid-1960s when these begin to dominate and the design is essentially exactly the same as that of us manufacture which we'll see as we continue through this so we're moving on now to look at a pair of australian canteen covers and canteens australia had contracted for u.s manufactured m1956 in the early 1960s 1961 i believe as their new standard equipment moving away from the 1937 pattern in the 1944 pattern which they'd been provided with from british stores when fighting in malaya and in borneo the m1956 was a much more up-to-date design and they chose to go with the us design when introducing new kit very quickly it became apparent that certain features were not to their liking not to soldiers liking and various modifications were made and australian production began early during australia's involvement in vietnam we have two examples of australian made m1956 canteen covers here dating from the 1960s most likely i think one of them stated in 1970 but this is the 1960s design of for production very very similar as you can see here these actually have the nylon edging very similar to that used on later us manufacturer which i mentioned previously slightly different color we have one in a course of webbing material and this which is in a very fine webbing if i bring them up to the camera there you can probably see the difference different manufacturers and i just thought that was a detailed difference you see in manufacture that was worth mentioning we turn these over here you can see you not only have slide keepers i think this one's dated 1969 this one's dated 1970 as you can see there slide keepers at the rear akin to usm 1956 but we now have the addition of a hangar hook up on a strap very similar to that attached to the british 1944 pattern of course australian troops were familiar with and liked so you could hang the canteens low on the belt when carrying a rucksack or a pack that can be quite advantageous because it clears the hips this allows the hip pad of the rucksack to sit on the hips the bottles hanging down below the belt so that can be quite advantageous the canteens themselves are direct copy of what was by now the us standard of the plastic canteen this particular example is dated 1968 as you can see made in this uh more of a bronzy green color than the olive of us manufacture and then this one i think is slightly earlier if i remember correctly a little bit stiff is this a 1965 here this is the 1965 dated example as you can see so a direct copy of the us or the the us patent plastic canteen the same as that used by the us and obviously in the modified australian canteen covers during the course of the vietnam war the us began to experiment in a big way with nylon equipment which had various advantages for serving in a tropical environment sheds water a lot more easily doesn't rot in jungle conditions even rock proof cotton will eventually begin to deteriorate in jungle conditions and one of the parts of that experiment was the m1967 load carrying equipment which was never really issued as full sets it was issued as components late on during the vietnam war in some situations and part of that system was a new design of canteen carrier now there were quite a few different varieties of these under the m1967 and the linclo moniker produced through the period this is one example the number of different experimental canteen covers that were around at the time uh is quite mind-boggling but this is one example a fairly standard example of the m1967 design and it has various features it obviously still has the stitching down the front we have the additional feature which will become standardized which is a little pocket here to carry purifying tablets in a little bottle and that will become a standard feature of canteen covers in u.s service going forward we still have on the rear we have the slide keepers as you can see there you can see on the back here cover water canteen and we have just see here 68 which is the dsa number various other details the stock number and so forth on the back there these interestingly use plastic or this particular example use plastic snaps i understand some of these were manufactured with the small metal snaps which are found on the side loops of m1956 ammunition pouches and so forth there's a myriad different selection of these out there that were made during different years introducing new and different experimental features this particular example used plastic snaps these were found to be inadequate but they're very common to find on clothing and things these days plastic press studs or snaps so the technology must have moved on a little bit in terms of the plastics used we look inside as you can see it has a pile lining faux pile and the canteen itself in this instance is a u.s 1966 stated example as you can see so this is the standard us plastic canteen which would come to be standard for many many years i don't actually have an example of one of these with the cap designed to allow the drinking tube on the respirator to be used that would have been a nice thing to show in this video unfortunately i don't have one but an adapter would be designed uh which fitted into the cat well a new design of cap with a with a an adapter a valve in it that could take the drinking tube from the us respirator was designed i don't have one of those but that's another feature that would appear during the 1960s so that's the m1967 with a 1966 u.s canteen having looked at the late 60s we're now into the early 1970s and australia introduced a new design of canteen carrier around the end of australia's involvement of vietnam so it's pretty clear from photographs that these didn't appear in service in country but were around at that sort of time and the design has been further modified in having drainage eyelets in the base we look to the rear here we still have the layout with the extra set of hanger hooks up on a strap there we now have belt loops in addition to a fitting point here for the slide keepers so that's just a slight modification to the design obviously remove the stitching down the front as well i should have mentioned that's the most obvious initial visual change you no longer have the stitching still lined in felt and this has a this actually has a feature we'll talk about in just a minute this actually is still lined in felt as you can see there this has a again a 1969 dated australian canteen inside it and obviously the little stand for the mug and this could be used you could place a stove under here or light a little fire or just a hexamine tablet to heat the mug so this is something which would turn up i think initially as a private purchase item i think these were issued later on as well in the us service just came with this carrier so i've kept it in there so that's the australian 1970s adaption of the m1956 carrier and these would be in production into the 1980s when another small change would come and we'll talk about that a little bit later on so speaking of the 1970s we'll be leading into the 1980s with this as well the us decided to introduce nylon equipment for use in various theaters in all theaters m1967 before had been designed for use in the tropics intended for use in the tropics the new load carrying equipment alice would be introduced for use in all theaters and the move would be made from cotton web equipment to nylon and we have here a standard version of the alice canteen cover we have a band of reinforcement here for where the lip of the cup sits inside and we've lost the stitching down the front in this particular instance there were transitional versions of these which retained the stitching down the front so it's almost a gradual change in the design and then finally a standardized version and that's what we have here we start a little pocket we saw on the m1967 for the bottle containing the sterilizing tablets obviously press studs on the two little flaps there slide keepers now alice clips on the rear this is actually an lc2 example and it's got an 07 date on the dsa so this is quite a quite a a modern example quite a recent example it's a us printed on the front there as you can see and this contains a later version of the canteen cup which has butterfly handles and this is a again a 60s dated u.s canteen um there is a marking on the cup anywhere i don't think this is actually oh no there we go yep you can see so this is a us stamp on the uh the bracket for the two handles there so this is sort of set up for the 1980s um really which will lead us nicely into the other bits and pieces we're going to look at now there's a tight fit with this in there we'll snap down again so that's an alice canteen carrier so again looking at say the late 1970s into the 1980s here we have two more dutch examples on the left we have what is essentially still an m1910 canteen carrier just now made in this vinyl material and then we have a simplified version on the right here which appeared in the 80s i believe so this is late 70s this is 80s it would be used side by side this is as you can see has the same features on the back here we've still got the reinforced hanger hooks and everything there still have the lift the dots still have the stitching down the front it's made in this rubberized vinyl material the dutch canteen as you can see now with the dutch plastic canteen 1987 slightly different shape from the u.s production and this just has a butterfly handle cup with it as you can see there so that's the dutch canteen system the cover as i say still felt lined it's literally we jump all the way back to the ones made in 1942 for the us they're exactly the same design as this well not 942 sorry 1945 the late war production us m1910 canteen covers it's exactly the same design just made in this rubberized vinyl material as i say so a last gasp for the actual m1910 design in that regard much as the dutch equipment of this time period was also a last gasp for british 1937 patton you still see this very old pattern of u.s equipment being copied and used this is simplified version as you can see the construction is very simple i've actually got the the doubled over section at the base here is on the outside and sort of glued and stitched in place press studs on the edge it's just a raw edge there's no edging or anything press studs on the flaps here you can actually see the the details are molded into the rubberized finish there rather than being stamped on and again this has a dutch canteen and cup that's actually 81 dated but 87 data bottle again as you can see a slightly different shape to the us production of plastic bottles but still using the m1910 hangar hooks on the back in a very weary version of the uh of a hinge there i guess you could say i think it's doubled over inside this is sort of a double layer but it's glued and so forth in place there as you can see actually comes through a slit cut in the back of the material there hopefully you can see that so not very hard wearing but cheap to produce most definitely and you can actually see the wear that's being caused here by this just being a raw edge but i suppose they served long enough in service to do the job and that's all that mattered so an economy version i guess you could say definitely a cost cutting manufacturer in this way uh you you do cut down a lot of manufacturing there all the stitching and everything has been reduced to a minimum that's two dutch examples from the very late 1970s and the 1980s so that's a sort of swan song for the m1910 canteen cover in its original design in that you still have that here at least but made in more modern material so sticking with the 1980s we have something here which i in a way covers two countries i guess both new zealand and the republic of korea this is a republic of korea made new zealand issue canteen cover it's essentially the same as those used by the republic of career armed forces it just lacks their stamp which would be on the front here and it's essentially a copy of of alice as you can see from the design so we have prestons up on the the two flaps here made of nylon obviously we have the little pocket here which would be for obviously sterilizing tablets on the back you can see it uses alice clips so it's the same in that regard at this time new zealand will be using a real mix of different bits and pieces of kit this has a pile lining in it as you can see this is a relatively modern production example so it came with this this sticker on the outside this stores sticker through the barcode and everything um but yeah a relatively modern example of something that was introduced during the 1980s into new zealand service as i say made in the republic of korea so we have that and just inside we have an example of one of the types of canteens that were being used at the time this is an australian made 1969 dated canteen so vietnam era obviously new zealand shared stores with the australian army during the vietnam war and a lot of the kit used them will persist in new zealand stocks post-war and then this cup which slightly unusual it's a knock-off essentially it does have a stamp on it somewhere if i remember there we go made in taiwan as you can see there if it'll focus there we go so so yeah just a knockoff canteen cup aluminium canteen cup basically uh which as i say this this uh i think came with one of the covers or came in with a lot of new zealand stuff so i've just included it here whether it is new zealand issue or not i'm not entirely sure perhaps someone who knows could could clarify that but anyway bottle and cup there just fill out the pouch nicely so that is new zealand issue korean made canteen cover with obviously an australian bottle inside new zealand we're using a real mix of kit at this time in the 1980s you see some alice components older and 1956 components both u.s and australian made of its australian canteens u.s canteens all sorts of bits and pieces so that's one example of the canteen covers in use at the time and it obviously brings in the the korean design as well essentially a copy of alice the final two we're going to look at here are again australian these are both m 1988 one in green and one in the new dp camouflage so green one first this is essentially very similar to the 1970s example we saw previously drainage islets in the bottom loops beside the slide keepers there as you can see this actually has a stamp at the rear here can we see the date i think it's 91. so this much as the the dp version we're in production by this point this one's actually dated 91 and you have hanger hooks as well as you can see still have those the addition to the design is this piece of webbing on the front here and this allows items with one slide keeper to be attached to the front so the first aid dressing pouch for example which is essentially the same as that used by the us and an enlarged version was made in the dp material as well can be clipped onto the front of the canteen cover so nice little addition to the design there we open this up check this out we have here a late production aluminium cup 1989 australian manufactured as you can see and a 1981 dated plastic canteen and this is still felt lined as you can see so that's that's the modification to the design for the m1988 this is basically exactly the same just made in in this dp material you see a chaps name and number written on the front there you can see painted painted press studs obviously we have the the tan webbing the khaki webbing on the front there that's the change and that's a change as well as the bulk of the webbing is is made in this khaki color obviously the loops here are still in green the design as i say is exactly the same just made in dp cloth this is the bottle it came with which is not marked as you can see that has the usual warning molded into the front there but it's a slightly different color as you can see and if we look inside here we have cantus 91 january 1991 stock number and then the felt lining in there something to mention earlier on you'll see australian items mark 71 which is not their nsn for some reason some of the early australian kit has 71 they got the wrong nato national code as part of the nsn but 66 is correct that's australia's national code that's in there so that's where i'm going to draw a line under this because this is where this is about as modern as my collection gets as the early 90s a later version of this would have a pouch on the front to allow you to carry a hexy stove that's a further adaption of the design but otherwise very similar so that's a look at some of the m1910 canteen family from various different origins various different nations hopefully you found it interesting running through those so there we are i hope you found it interesting looking at that as i say it's not exhaustive it's not comprehensive that would be a massive undertaking to try and show every country's own take on the m1910 canteen and its derivatives but hopefully it's been interesting having a look at this there's some modified designs to some direct clones of u.s practice and so forth so as i say hopefully it's been of interest if it has and you'd like to see more from the channel please do consider subscribing if you haven't already and whether you're newly subscribing or you've previously subscribed please do make sure you hit the little bell little notification button down below this will of course alert you when i upload future videos if you really like my uploads and you'd like to support the channel you can there's patreon and paypal linked down below and as ever a huge thank you to everybody who supports the channel using those two methods it really is very much appreciated thank you all very much indeed if you'd like to follow the channel on social media you can there's facebook instagram 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Published: Tue Jan 05 2021