The RTX 4070... Overpriced or Just Right?

this is the RTX 4070 nvidia's newest graphics card with the target MSRP of 600 now whether or not there will actually be any 4070s going for that price when they hit the shelves on launch day I have no idea we're gonna have to wait and see but that's the price we've been told at least for more entry-level models like this one this is the PNY Berto the launch of the 4070 is pretty exciting because it marks the next most affordable option for current gen graphics cards part of this nvidia's cheapest 4000 series offering is the RTX 4070 TI which launched at 800 and amd's cheapest offering is the RX 7900 XT which launched at 900 so yeah pretty slim pickings when it comes to Affordable current generation cards right now but they are slowly trickling out we have this one right here and I'm sure AMD will soon have a response to this if we're being real here 600 is by no means cheap however it is a substantial difference in price compared to the two previously mentioned cards hopefully by the 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Edition RTX 2060 you know very standard size card uh from a few years ago ooh almost dropped that there and putting it next to this virtual 4070 it's nearly the same size like you can see it completely covering it there the length is the biggest difference like yeah the 4070 is maybe one centimeters longer but when you're looking at like the height and the thickness it's very similar making it a very compact card and I'm actually pretty glad that I got an entry level model to review because this represents like the Baseline 4070 performance and it should be very representative of what you'll get at around that 600 MSRP I have never been a fan of spanning a premium on nicer version of cards like some variants out there are already halfway to the cost of the next card yes I'm looking at you Asus strix as one of the worst culprits of this you'll see later on in the video that this card performs well with this cooler attempts under load were in the mid to high 60s with the fans running on the stock curve which had it mostly operating around 60 fan speed or about 1700 RPM this isn't a power hungry card at all it's got a target tgp of 200 Watts which Speaking of power this model and other entry level models like it will only require a single eight pin connector supposedly there's going to be some more premium models that's going to utilize the newer pcie 5.0 power connectors kind of like the 470 TI but not this one we've still got the old connectors here now for the testing later on I did use complete stock settings as a box until no manual overclocks greater than whatever this is Factory tuned to I did however take a look at the overclocking capabilities just because I was curious and I use pny's velocity X software which operates very similarly to afterburner in terms of convenient sliders to quickly apply an overclock as well as the ability to monitor crucial stats like temps and such I was easily able to push the card an additional 200 megahertz on the core in memory and that's before touching any voltage or power limits and it ran stable so while this card is on the more entry level side of things it can still be pushed a little further now to test this I put it head to head with other cards that are in direct competition with it in that 600-ish dollar price range on AMD side we have to go back to the last generation's RX 6900 XT or rx6950 XT while those did launch at a thousand dollars or more they can now consistently be found at around 650 making them direct competition on Nvidia side I think the most comparable card from last gen is the RTX 3080e somehow it has not moved in price at all these are still 700 new even two and a half years after launch and that's the 10 gigabyte version too if you want a 12 gigabyte card you're paying even more if you look in the used Market however on sites like eBay you can find 3080s for a little over 500 that's a much better price but then again it's a used card so it's not as Apples to Apples when comparing against a brand new release either way you look at it though from the previous generation the 3080 is the most likely competitor against the 4070 and because I had one available to test I also had added in the RTX 4070 TI to my benchmarks it's a completely different price tier coming in at around 800 but since the two cards are right next to each other in the product stack I thought it'd be worth showing here's a quick side by side of all the cards I tested and some other important specs feel free to pause the screen if you want to look closer at them but do note the pretty big difference in each card's tgp with the 4070 coming in at the lowest and this is all going to be reflected on the overlay that's shown during the benchmarks for my test bench I used a ryzen 5800 X 3D paired with 32 gigabytes of Team group Extreme ddr4 memory at 4000 cl18 which should be plenty capable of handling all these cards I tested at 1440p because I think that's definitely the target resolution for the best gaming experience with all these cards uh High refresh rate 1440p is where it's at I looked at some results at 4K and it's pretty evident that some of these cards without any upscaling like dlss or FSR involved kind of struggled to give a consistent 60 FPS experience the focus of this video is that RTX 4070 after all and based on some of the numbers I was seeing at 4K it is definitely better suited for 1440p at that resolution it also gives us a little bit higher FPS so there's more Fidelity when it comes to like calculating percentage differences based off average FPS and things like that uh but yeah let's take a look at the numbers we'll start off with some synthetic benchmarks that hopefully everyone is familiar with and can even run at home to compare in BioShock extreme a 1440p dx11 test scenario we're going to focus on the graphic score and we see the 40 70 pretty even with the 3080 just slightly edging it out the 6900 XT takes a pretty big lead with over 40 better performance and the 470 TI comes in with a score 25 higher than 470 and this is how I'm going to be formatting the results as we talk through them by the way all the percent differences will be in relation to the 4070 in Times by a 1440p dx12 test we again see the 4070 and 3080 pretty even with one another the 6900 XT doesn't have as big of a lead this time scoring similar to the 4070 TI both roughly 25 faster than the 4070 in unit in superposition a test that's very demanding on the graphics card I tested at 1440p using settings based on the extreme presets here the 4070 comes in last place even losing to the 3080 by a decent amount but not to worry though it is just a synthetic test after all now we're going to move on to the games we'll go in alphabetical order so that starts us off with Apex Legends here the 4070 performs almost identical to the RTX 3080 the 6900 XT which is not that much more expensive has a huge lead by almost 30 percent and the 470 TI being the most expensive card by quite a bit disappoints a little due to trailing behind that 6900 XT at all in Assassin's Creed Valhalla we see the 4070 pulling ahead of the 3080 which is pretty impressive considering the huge difference in power consumption between the two cards the 6900 XD takes the lead here once again by a decent margin in Borderlands 3 the trend doesn't change that much the 470 and the 3080 battle without this time with the 3080 slightly edging out the 4070 and the 6900 XD continue its dominance even over the much more expensive RTX 470 TI once again in Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 the pendulum swings back over to the 4070 in its head-to-head battery against the 3080. the 6900 XT continues to lead the charge followed by the 4070 TI in second place now if those frame rates aren't high enough in a fast-paced shooter for you then upscaling is an option that you can enable to give you some higher numbers with dlss and FSR enabled at quality settings for the respective cards we do see all the performance numbers get a pretty nice uplift well into the high refresh rate territory and here are the 4070 pools further away from the 3080 and it actually slightly closes the gap between it and the 4070 TI as we continue through the benchmarks we see this back and forth ongoing battle between the 40 70 and 3080 and it doesn't stop at cyberpunk here the 3080 takes the lead back by about 10 percent unsurprisingly the 6900 XT again gets the win I also tested this with upscale enabled so again the LSS for NVIDIA and FSR 2.1 for AMD set to Quality we do get uplifts across the board with the percent differences almost identical between all the cards to win dlss and FSR were disabled now cyberpunk does have dss3 frame generation which is one of the selling points of the RTX 4000 series cards frame generation is not available to AMD cards nor is it available to RTX 3000 Series with frame generation turned on both 4000 series cars completely Blow by the 3080 and 6900 XT which are left with only dlss2 and FSR respectively the last cyberpunk test I wanted to do was looking at pure Ray tracing performance with no resolution scaling crutches or frame generation or anything like that and here is where the rx6900xt really struggles while it dominates in rasterization performance in almost all the titles it comes in dead last in Ray tracing performance the other three cards though are pretty on Trend with what we've been seeing up to this point with regards to Performance differences alright enough with cyberpunk there's just way too many different ways that that game can be tested so now on into Far Cry 6. here we see a pretty narrow spread between all the cards again with the 4070 and 3080 within Arm's Reach of each other and the 4070 TI with a slight Edge over the 6900 XT over in fortnite the spread is much narrower with the 4070 3080 and 6900 XT all performing very close to one another and the 4070 TI taking the victory here this was at Epic settings with nanite disabled now running that back and testing with Nina enabled the FPS takes a pretty big drop with a similar spread in results between all the cards with the exception of the 6900 XT which makes a better showing here being right on the tail of the 4070 TI the 10 goes back to normal in Forza Horizon 5 with the 4070 beating out the 3080 not by any crazy amount you know they're still within 10 percent of each other the 6900 XT takes the W here and the 470 TI is improving to be much of value here with only a 15 lead over the 4070 despite again costing 33 percent more in Halo infinite the the 40 70 beats the 3080 in their ongoing battle by around 10 or so but it also gets beaten by the 6900 XT at around 10 as well and here the 40 70 TI wins with the best performance as a card that costs the most is expected to do next is Hogwarts Legacy and the Pendulum shifts back in favor of the RTX 3080 here which beats the 4070 by 11 the 6900 XT with its own ongoing battle against the 4070 TI does take the win here Rainbow Six Siege is always fun to test if you want to see really high numbers and here all cards get averages high enough that you could probably argue it doesn't really make much of a difference how much one card beats the other by they all average over 300 FPS with one percent lows above 200 and the 6900 XT just completely dominates averaging 400 FPS and last but not least Spider-Man Miles Morales here the 4070 gets its final victory over the 3080 and is almost on par with the 6900 XT this title from what I've seen from other results online definitely favorite Nvidia graphics cards and it clearly shows here the RTX 470 TI has a decent lead over the 4070 here but as with most of the results that we've been seeing it's not hitting that 33 performance increase to make it linear with the 33 price increase and one final look at Ray tracing performance we see a similar Trend to what we saw in cyberpunk 4070 and 3080 are neck and neck with each other 470 TI is a clear winner and of course the 6900 XT is the worst performer the message is pretty clear here if you care about race chasing at all and plan to use it do not get an AMD card especially at this price range right now so those are the gaming benchmarks but I did test some non-gaming applications as well for those who may be interested so I'll really quickly go through them right now here we've got blender which AMD has never really been competitive against Nvidia in all three Nvidia cards beat out the 6900 XT with the 4070 TI leading followed by the 4070 then the 3080. in the Puget Benchmark for Adobe Photoshop all four card score within a few percent of each other with regards to the graphic score so it really doesn't matter what you go with here and Adobe Premiere Pro however there's a bit more of a spread when it comes to the two different brands with the AMD card scoring the lowest by a noticeable amount and all three Nvidia cards are within a few percent of each other so yeah things like blender and Premiere Pro if those are a part of your workflow on top of gaming then Nvidia is kind of going to be the Clear Choice that was just a bunch of results that we just went over and to be honest my head kind of hurts after all that but I think there are some clear takeaways from it right first off the 4070 trades blows with the last gen 3080 in almost every test like they were within 10 or so uh performance of each other with either card leading depending on the title though for the games that I tested the 4070 did win more times than not the power consumption though is something that cannot be ignored the 3080 was operating over 300 watts across almost all the tests and the 4070 was pretty much always under 200 Watts taking all things into consideration there's really no reason to buy a 3080 once the 4070 is released the 3080 lacks newer Tech like the oss3 frame generation and the ability to ab1 in code and kind of the most important of all the price the 4070 will be cheaper than the 3080 unless we see like a price drop across the board due to this release but even then let's say if the 3080 is 600 I still don't think it's worth it when the 4070 is Superior in pretty much every other way you would have to get much lower in price to make it like a more compelling story and I just don't see that happening at least for new cards anyways maybe used 3080s will get even cheaper due to this releasing and at that point it could be worth giving up the benefits of a 4000 series car but that's going to depend on the individual now regarding the 60 90 XT as you saw AMD provides a ton of value when you're looking at Just Pure rasterization Performance I mean the 6900 XT one in the majority of the games tested for the price at around 650 as of recording this it is very attractive but if you care about Ray tracing performance at all if you care about dlss3 frame generation blender performance Premiere Pro power consumption the 6900 XT was hitting near 290 Watts for all those games if you care about all those things or some of those things then you kind of got to balance out what's more important to you and for the 470 TI there was not a single instance from my testing where it performed 33 better than the 4070 but that's the price increase you'd have to pay to get it I was seeing anywhere between 15 to 25 gains and while it's not as good of a value proposition like FPS for Dollar Wise that just comes with the territory and PC Hardware right you kind of to hit diminishing returns the higher end you go but yeah that's pretty much gonna wrap it up for this video let me know your thoughts overall on the RTX 4070 Down Below in the comments but now you've probably watched multiple reviews of this card on embargo day or sometime after embargo day and you might already have formed your opinion on it so I'd love to hear those also since I love to ask hypothetical questions here is the hypothetical for this video now let's assume that the release of the 4070 drives down the price of the 3080s and the 6900 xt's and 6950 xt's to 600 so they're all the same price across the board if you were in the market to buy a new graphics card and had 600 to spend which card are you going for the 4070 uh the 3080 or the 6900 6950 XT and why I kind of have a feeling what I think a majority of the people out there will pick but you never know sometimes people have surprising answers uh whatever it may be though let me know down in the comments below I'm really curious to hear your responses but yeah that would be it for me though I want to thank you all as always for watching and for continued support the channel uh thanks to the channel members as always for their above and beyond support be safe out there and I will see you all down in the comments as well as the next stream and or video bye

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Published: Wed Apr 12 2023