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meet the kids who won't eat won't sleep won't behave and the parents who take around we've been slated left right and center people say that boy needs a good smack even granny thinks mom just needs to get a grip she's a little bit lazy well she is lazy mom and dad are desperate for a label like ADHD or autism to explain their child's behavior I think Billy is autistic I suspect maybe ADHD if it's not autism what is this but could tough love be the solution is this just a naughty boy it can take years for parents to get a definitive answer this is what I'm up against so you know I'm just getting my way so family GP doctor dawn Harper and pediatrician dr. Ravi Jayram are tackling this controversy head-on fast tracking the process to see if medical help is needed do you think they're ready for this goodness with the kids are just out of control as a pediatrician in GP dr. Ravi and dr. dawn often turn detective tonight they need their sleuthing skills to tackle two kids with baffling behavior and we made you sandwich desperate parents have asked them to investigate if their child's problems could have a medical call first nine-year-old lego fiend Thomas [Music] Thomas is out there by area Thomas seems oblivious to pretty much everything these parents say it's like you don't stop Thomas allows too big for that to us therefore five year old Thomas is very intelligent he's very intelligently certain things he tries to make inventions with his neck oh I'm a Alden echo models if you wanna build Lego you need to do is be creative he does too hey you going into you come put wheels there these bits my favorite bits my family please me does it there's my wife Nicola Felicity my eldest daughter there's Thomas and there's Cody who's a younger one and then we've got a little baby or survivors but there's definitely something taste different about Thomas compared to the other children this is Thomas he's nine and he's from Essex he tends to fly off the handle and can get quite violent Joe and Nicola have been struggling to keep Thomas under control for the last four years not only does he not do what he's told sometimes the red mist descends when he can't get his own way he will go into one he'll flip out he started to lash out when he loses his temper he throws things at me physically pinch me or try to kick me I don't think he's being you know a naughty attention-seeking little boy I think he just won't cope not at all when it's a slightly chaotic environment he's in his mum's words he flips out Thomas isn't a sociable child assault he can't manage in a small bedroom with his brother you try and put him into an environment with other children he will climb up would like to have a room on my own so I can just do stuff what I would like to do which way I like he's not sociable around other children I wonder whether it's because he doesn't get other children and they don't get him his parents are also concerned that Thomas can't tell the difference between reality and a joke he just took that so literally so he's not reading any nonverbal cues he's not he's not at the age of 10 able to understand that somebody might be saying something a little bit lightly Thomas clings on to his childhood beliefs too despite his kid brother Cody's apparent wisdom on the subject Christmases well what time I think say is cold you don't believe me for Christmas but I do what I don't know is how when all your doors are not and well and when they have a wide chimney like last week we don't how does he get in he is the real Santa because a poor dude beat you so bad Nikola is frustrated despite Thomas's funny turns fits of Rage annan usual way of looking at life she feels no one will recognize her concerns I am worried bad so I've been wrong about Thomas for a long time as far as echoes and there's nothing wrong with him I sit all the time in general practice and when somebody says this isn't right they are nearly always correct doesn't necessarily mean it's a medical diagnosis but it's not right before tackling Thomas doctors dawn and Ravi have another case to get their teeth into a much younger child with a problem that's difficult to digest so this is Jensen he's a two-year-old boy who lives with his mum and dad in Clevedon near Bristol very suspense when it comes to most things in Jensen's two-year-old life the waters are pretty calm Ian's mum Jenna enjoy regular visits to the local beach in her home Jensen loves to play dragons Jensen what's in the bathroom dad he's pretends that they're hiding around corners and that he's got to hide from them find the dragon again he loves his costumes and his dressing up and he was quite happy to entertain himself you hear him chatting to his toys and involving them in the in the games trinova didn't our Jensen but when Jensen is put in his high chair this high drama please up just taste it why don't you have a teaspoon sandwich no gonna try some of this pasta please stop I that was not we don't throw food at mummy because Jensen buttons his lips and refuses to eat dr. dawn and dr. Ravi are trying to help exasperated parents like Joe and Nicola whose nine-year-old son Thomas is a proper puzzle on one hand he believes his teddy is real he might come alive on the other hand he's like a bear with a sore head but just Thomas need a medical diagnosis or have his parents simply lost control their next challenge is Jensen who's a happy 2 year old until Mel Torme's please eat some breakfast Jensen Jensen doesn't really eat a lot of food on a bad day he would become agitated who throw his food around Orange then you like orange but his mom doesn't think this is fussy eating she worries he has underlying medical problems with food triggered by a traumatic experience on his first birthday you have a lovely party and evening we gave him leftover party food including a peanut butter sandwich and he thought that eating it and we started noticing his face getting redder and redder we drove down to the A&E by that time he was projectile vomiting we've seen immediately and he was treated with steroids and antihistamines and he was diagnosed with a peanut allergy and hazelnut allergy and it seems to have led to Jensen having some sort of aversion to food come on just a little bit meals are becoming a real issue ant they interesting very interesting mum knows that he is allergic to peanuts and hazelnuts so that was obviously a fairly major around for them and I can understand that mom is now a little anxious about other foods gummy the cutter as a result Jensen is getting a lot of his calories from milk with two big bottles of bedtime because he gets small spots after eating sometimes mom believes he could have more allergies Jensen leaves happy dinner - I do think there's definitely a link with the allergies and the issues he's has around food okay let's see if they be on the samba can whether it's he's learnt that me food please nervous around the food as parents and that he can play us I don't know mum's already flagged up that there might be an issue almost learned from her and dad that mealtimes are mushy food is an issues actually so how much of his anxiety is a reflection of his parents anxiety I don't know and they will also know when they can play you off against each other or take a little bit of control so he's an interesting little boy and I think there is probably more than one thing going on here so I was sure there will be two very different dilemmas for the doctors Thomas who finds mixing with other kids difficult and sometimes hits out and Jensen a tough who turns terrible but only at tea time dr. Ravi starts with a home visit to Essex and nine-year-old Thomas normally pediatricians assess children in clinic but dr. Ravi can see Thomas on home turf which should be more revealing Thomas will be relaxed and find it harder to hide any unusual habits [Music] there's a lot to think about with Thomas his parents have clearly had a lot of concerns about his behavior for some years hi he Thomas is that nice and I think we owe it to him and to his parents to try to see if we can help Thomas how are you doing nice to meet you what do you like doing what hobbies do you have you like Lego is that your favorite thing at the moment yes do you prefer playing by yourself or do you prefer playing with other people why is that do you think people might take the ditch right really neat all right and if you've got lots of friends at school no friends not even one good friend why do you think that is okay did you know what I'd really like to do is have a look at your Lego collection is that okay you take me there brilliant walking through the house it's quite busy there's a lot going on there's various pets and animals it's a relatively small space for quite a lot of children having not much space and a lot of stimulation going on may just be enough to tip them over the edge on quite a lot of occasions mostly kept safe so which is your best model this one be good guess what I started off with them to bits yeah yeah and was that oh I'm not making joke on when he was talking to me about Lego he could have talked at me for hours about that now I could see how other children at school if he talks and interacts with them like that would have seemed miss being a little bit odd Lego Christmas tree like a hairbrush looks like a hairbrush it's a hairbrush it's a plan with it did you know I'm rubbish but he was having none of it when I was suggesting it could be used as a hairbrush even when I was brushing my hair with it and brushing his hair with it do you think you could use it as a hairbrush so he's very rigid in his thinking as well isn't he and it's now fairly typical if Thomas says no this is this that's it it's certainly he's wise yeah yeah Thomas has definitely got traits that might suggest autism around 1% of us have autistic spectrum disorder a condition where pathways in the brain are different affecting social skills communication and behavior patterns such as a fixation on particular interests up to 90% of people on the spectrum have sensory issues around smells sounds or textures [Music] dr. Ravi's next Haskell is tea-time newest country mum Jenna faces another food fight with toddler Jensen the first dr. Ravi gets to well the bottom of the problem does he pay regularly pretty reckon how often would you say he goes normally once or twice a day the only reason I'm mentioning all of this in some children who are funny around eating one of the things that can go on if you're bummed up lower down you fill up at the top end it makes the bottom n squeeze and they get tummy ache and then they develop a behavior where they associate eating with tummy pain and they start eating in it hurts they begin to refuse have enough feel just to make sure there's no big hard lumps to poo in there that can fail and certainly that's nice and soft he doesn't feel like he's got any big hardly at all will you be quite so tickled by his posture particularly nice it's gonna be interesting watching what happens around this mealtime I'm gonna say in the corner and just watch quietly you know we need to sit down absolutely [Music] different Joe something different ante you want toast yeah rather than persevere mum cook something else so it'd be interesting to see now when she brings it whether he's going to eat or whether he'll start off again meal number two goes down well see is it yum-yum yeah and on to meal number three he's gonna get something else which he's asked for and my suspicion is he's not gonna eat that my prediction was wrong he's actually eating that quite well good boy there's an element of him controlling the situation I think which is not an unusual thing you're not saying you're doing it badly but it's really hard sometimes to stand up to terror toddlers mum thinks allergies are putting Jensen off the other options oh what a clever way of eating peas or could it be that he's having fun throwing his weight and he's toast around Jensen that's naughty clearly there's a big behavioural element to what's going on whether that's related to what happened when he had his various allergic reactions I don't know but I think it needs to be looked into Jensen's not alone in refusing food as a third of under fives of fussy eaters and this continues as they get older because it's two yellow pages but we don't start out with food fads babies are not born fussy actually babies are born really ready to to accept pretty much anything that their parents are going to feed them if you think back in the early evolution it would not have made sense for a baby to have been born fussy little Amy is proving the point she's having her first ever taste of solid food and it's a bitter one spinach lovely reaction it's a classic reaction to a bitter taste what can happen though is that often parents can perhaps save a bit of a negative facial reaction perhaps to some bitter foods maybe and stop offering them a little bit of a grimace again and if you stop offering then children's diets can narrow me just a bit there I mean buddy so to get the kids eating a varied diet if at first you don't succeed try try try and try again [Music] Jenna fears as more to Jensen's food refusals than plain old fussiness he's had a severe reaction to peanut butter and she thinks he may have other allergies as well so they're meeting pediatrician dr. Ravi at the counties of Chester Hospital Jensen is having a full set of tests to check for food allergies which means taking a blood sample hey Jensen just in case Jensen doesn't like the sight of blood dr. Ravi distracts him good boy well done Jensen you were really good what a star so what we'll do we'll get those blots off to the labs and next time I see you we'll have the results and we'll be able to feedback and take things further from there all right thanks for coming [Music] Thomas and his family are getting away from the worries of his behavior with a weekend it's a holiday cottage in Dorset [Music] once inside Thomas starts a detailed inventory they will fiddle with try [Music] everything he finds anything at the old me you come racing in here becoming this tell us he will be the first to find out everything I don't know why it just does the last he finds the main attraction not mentioned in the brochure James why would anybody gay so ed about a new missus Thomas says I know Thomas thinks he's really great he's finally youth [Music] but by Monday morning back home and getting set for another day at school right you ready Thomas's Hoover happiness has faded he can't face the reality of school when he has no friends it's upsetting because you see the other two going to school and wanting to go to school first sentence on the school today I would have grief with him when he got home because he would have built it up and a jury in school day as soon as he came home it would kick off and I'll have to put up with aggravation of it or when we get home Thomas is being left behind not only with his education but in growing up time for the team to come to the rescue tell us more than 40% of children with autism are bullied at school a nine-year-old Thomas is refusing to go to school today because he believes he's bullied - Thomas see the thing is even if he thought I do gaming school today then we've got the problem of him coming I'm very upsetting no friends no everyone kicks me off games Sundays - Cody said you go sit on the Buddy bench so what happens then why do you think Tom all right why doesn't anybody doesn't want to play with you no just say no but why do I let you cry Thomas's unusual behavior could be while he's not popular in the playground but dr. Ravi wonders if it could be a sign of autism which is why is referring Thomas for an assessment with his colleague Libby Hill we're off to see a specialist in speech language to see what they think about Thomas speech and language therapy isn't just about looking at how you say your words it's actually looking at how you understand language as well which is a key problem in autism hello the boy is chasing the Sheep free with Thomas the first test was looking at his understanding of language can he follow everything that he needs in the right order to be able to answer correctly the man is chasing the dog Cho does he understand pictures of feelings have a look at his face how does he feel thank you could be thinking your children and people with autism find that very very difficult I think he's going more like bored yeah I think so too of them I was looking for you know what makes him feel happy sad or or whatever what makes you sad or lonely Thomas in order to play with nothing today Thomas needs more evaluation to find out if he has autism or just some of its traits in the future scientists hope to be able to diagnose autism without needing such complex assessments at the cerebral Center in Birmingham is visiting a team during early research which could ultimately lead to a brain scan for autism six-year-old control volunteer emily is having a brain activity measured with an EEG sensor Nate this is a hat made of electrodes that records her brainwaves so the idea is that we are going to play some sounds to her and see how her brain reacts electrically to those sounds emily is hearing both human and non-human sounds the researchers have compared the results from typically developing children like Emily to those with autism what we've found is that both children with autism and toddlers at risk for autism might show larger responses to those mechanical sounds and at the same time somewhat smaller responses to human action sounds so that is quite important because that shows a bit more about their differences in brain functioning every child with autism is different but on a group level this is what we have found so far then the longer term we might be able to develop a diagnostic measure to diagnose autism but not at the moment it's something that we're really working on and trying if this research is to develop into a simple diagnostic test scientists will have to settle a huge debate our children born with autism will does it develop professor david Amaral is a world-renowned expert in autism all of the data that we have so far would suggest that babies really are born with autism there are many genes that increase the risk and of course you're born with your genes we're finding that there are brain changes that you can detect as early as six months of life in children they go on to have a diagnosis of autism and the evidence that is increasing now is that if a child is diagnosed early and has the benefit of early intervention their quality of life will probably be better down the road diagnosis opens the door to understanding the anxieties and difficulties people with autism have it also means they can be taught things that others learn intuitively such as facial expressions until we can scan for autism the best way to diagnose it is watching her child behaves that's what the team are doing with Thomas [Music] and H of all the big days beginning for Jenna let's go have some dinner first and her dragon loving little boy Jensen who only breathes fire at mealtimes as they wait for the results of blood tests to see if he has food allergies and if this is leading to a food phobia dr. Ravi has suggested that they chat with child psychologist dr. Nikki Tepper she can wear whether Jensen is developing as a two-year-old should it was really important for you to me because I need to get an idea of you know is he functioning alright what she came in the room gave me a very good answer you know yes dr. Tepper suggests jenna fills in a food diary to see if any other issues indicate a medical problem it's pretty simple to fill out if you could just list the anything that he consumed that is not water and he juice any milk anything at all if you list that and then put his reaction so for example if he eats nicely just put you know ain't nicely if he starts throwing things like throwing things shouting screaming whatever it is just right exactly what his reaction is alight specific two weeks later all the professionals meet to discuss Jensen they must decide if food allergies are causing his mealtime meltdowns and if he's developed a food phobia because of this or can they give mum the green light to get tough with Tucker I've just picked up Jensen's blood resource and they're going to be really interesting to help us work out which way we need to go to sort out his eating problems so we're going to chat about Jensen today so his mum Jenna right to indulge Jensen possibly it's a different issue I can see why mums doing it because she's terribly worried he hasn't eaten his dinner he's going to starve and he's Jensen just wanted to use mom up when I watched him in action at a mealtime he was sitting in his high chair in the living room he asked for toast mom brought him toast he looked at it through on the floor now I'm sure everybody everybody has got an experience of a two-year-old who eat something throws on the floor mum picks it up they think it's hysterical so they throw it on the floor again mum picks it up and it can go on till the next day if you're at it despite the food on the floor genna's diary reveals surprising news this child is really eating quite a very diet pasta and rice and Apple there was curry on one occasion separate oh and any sandwiches as well and what exactly that's why I thought the diary also exposes an interesting evening ritual after dinner there are two bottles of milk okay so I think that's hugely relevant and I think that you know he's not eating his dinner because he knows he's having his milk Jostens join us I think has a good time yeah dr. Ravi is about to reveal the results of the blood tests okay and where the food allergies are behind Jensen's teton tantrums while Dad keeps an eye on the unhappy to himself the tests are really helpful it confirms what we knew about him having an allergy to peanuts but that doesn't appear to be evidence of any other allergy to any other food at all just wondering if he's not got these other energy why does he come up with pipes often that is a really good question because obviously if you're coming up in hives that suggests there's something allergic triggering things off interestingly away from food he's actually got a suggestion if possible allergy towards cats he's never come out in hives every time he's gone there and that's interesting he is going to be a little boy who will occasionally come out in an allergic time rush because you can't control his environment totally he has to go out into the real world whether it's grandma's muggy or not the only food likely to cause Jensen spots is peanuts so why does he play up and I'll pass you over to Nicky too many games of pick-up toast it is unacceptable he's throwing his food so certainly you know part of our work together will be about trying to manage that change that and make mealtimes about food rather than about playing how does that sound that sounds fine okay so you take you back to your little man lovely to see you bye-bye [Music] Jenson's case has been very typical of a lot of toddlers that I see parents worry a heck of a lot about how much their children are eating I think now we can move on with the behavioral side of things without the worry of there possibly being allergy behind it all not only does Jensen not have a medical condition he doesn't have a phobia over we do feel very assured not least um when he's playing up with his food I'm able to sort of crack down a little bit harder without feeling cruel that he might in in pain or discomfort meanwhile over in Essex Thomas's family has been hoping for a diagnosis for his behavior for the last four years without one they can't access any specialist NHS or school help dad Joe has been trying to improve his social communication skills by taking him to a sports club every Saturday for children with disabilities Thomas enjoyed it because all the children there he seems to be on their civil level and they seem to be on these levels how he gets along fine with them not everyone at school is okay because Thomas feels so happy here it's an ideal place for Libby our speech and language expert to do a second assessment to his ability to chat and socialize with others he's still very rigid in his thinking he's bossing the others around to hurry up or no you've done that right but he doesn't see that those same rules apply to him and mum Nicholas worried he's having trouble understanding rules at home - so she's filmed an incident to show Libby lots of kids hate going to beg but it's the way Thomas's reacting to the footage that really interests Libby it didn't seem to worry him or bother him at all that we were looking at something that showed him in not a good light which isn't a typical thing for someone of that age they would be mortified that you were showing someone else that because it you know isn't good what do you think about was looking at that video can you can you remember what you were thinking when you were lying there mum was asking to put your pajamas on so why did you film that was that because that's always an issue [Music] while Libby does her stuff dr. Ravi is watching more revealing footage of Thomas captured by CCTV cameras installed in his home this is footage of Thomas at home on Christmas Day and you can see that while the rest of the family are off celebrating Christmas he looks like he's needed to get away from it all it's has she quite difficult for him to do that he can't even get away from the dog quite clearly he's often putting his hands up to his face and moving them up and down this is what we call a self stimulating behavior or stimming and often children on the autistic spectrum will do this when they're a bit agitated or a bit nervous just to comfort them Thomas his nervous habits are only part of the evidence gathered everything rests on what Livi will report back to doctors dawn and Ravi its decision day the day for which his family has been fighting for four years to find out definitively if Thomas has a communication disorder or he's just a challenging child so Thomas there were few alarm bells going off for me I mean it was quite unusual behavior his behavior is having an impact now on the whole family isn't it so it's it's quite serious it is important for me to get some diagnosis for Thomas because it's been going on for so long it's getting too much for me to cope with I do seriously believe there is something not quite right and that's why I would prefer if there was any possibility yeah that we could try to get to the bottom we're scaling with Thomas you know on one level you wouldn't notice anything but when you look closely he liked things done a certain way he seems to take things very literally as this bit still built that very useful his mom showed me one of the videos of him having a temper tantrum and and that was really amazing because he couldn't see that I would think anything of him so no embarrassment for a reversal factor at all he doesn't know how to start a conversation he doesn't know how to maintain a conversation and his idea of anything to do with conversation is just to talk about his own interests which certainly still fits with him not being able to make friends at school this evidence amounts to an autism diagnosis Thomas's inability to understand jokes no he just might suggests rigid thought processes two-way chats are also difficult so he lectures on his special interests the social world is confusing to Thomas and when it all gets too much he blows up [Music] do you think they're ready for this diagnosis how is always difficult you got to know how to break this news I think she's ready for that you think dad's ready I don't know [Music] after four years of struggling with Thomas's behavior problems his family is finally going to hear if he has a medical condition that could open the door to specialists help sometimes as part of my job I have to tell parents and children things that they don't necessarily want to hear but Thomas is 10 years old and if there is an underlying problem I think it's important that we find out about it now you've had a chance to have a chance to Thomas the bad things move on okay Thomas how much do you know about what's been going on what do you think okay we want to do things to make life better for you one of the things is that the way you think about things is slightly different from how are the other children think about things which is a good thing because you can see things about things that nobody else will see but we need to make sure that you can learn to see how other people think about things as well does that make sense Rev I completely confused you it does make sense oh that's really good I'm all in agreement yeah that's Thomas is on the autistic spectrum mmm and he's what we would call high-functioning he's still Thomas he's exactly the same Thomas II was 10 minutes ago yeah the question is okay well now that we're saying that from what can we do about it and and I well I don't want you Thomas to have to go to school and not having any friends we need to let you kind of take this information in then what we need to do is help Thomas and help you understood all move forward to work away that will allow Thomas to get the most out of life that he killed it's nice to have things confirmed you know we've been going for so many years and I've noticed it from the age of five or six I knew there's something not quite right one of the things we know about young people who were on the autistic spectrum is they cope with a lot of over stimulation and you've got a pretty busy house having new with a lot of noisy children a lot of noisy animals as well now I think it would be really helpful for Thomas to have some kind of space of his own that he could go to when he's feeling stressed and nervous how does that sound but any parent who's never had to even consider the possibility of a diagnosis like autism you can understand that actually that might be a pretty catastrophic piece of news interestingly for Joe and Nicola there was almost a sense of relief it's quite certain in some ways but relief though to know now we can start to move forward and I guess for them today is the beginning of a brighter future for them and for Thomas Thomas and his family need only look at 46 year-old mark to realize the value of today's news mark was diagnosed with a form of autism called Asperger's syndrome when he was around Thomas's age and like Thomas the road to diagnosis was a rocky one my parents took me once to see this young and inexperienced junior doctor when I was about six years old and I'm afraid to say he promptly leaving me as mentally saying I'd never be any good at anything I'd felt terribly different to others I felt almost like an alien I used to love mathematics I could actually relate to that extremely well much better than socializing which was almost beyond me then almost had no interest in in the other kids and of course one of the things that youngsters will do is they will obviously pick on people that appear to be odd or unusual or by themselves which Murli expanded the problem and and made it far worse it was a crucial milestone to be diagnosed when I was about eleven only 15% of autistic adults are in full-time employment and over one-third still live with their parents but diagnosis meant Mark got help understanding how other people think feel communicate as a result he's flourished he has to math degrees has written two books and is fully independent it's just having that crucial grassroot level if you like support and understanding that makes all the difference over in the West Country Jenna is following our team's advice mealtimes are no longer a picnic for Jensen that's the point mum Jenna is laying down a few rules rule number one no filling up on milk Jensen's relying on the milk when he doesn't want to eat his meal he's aware that there's milk coming and he's gonna fill up on that certainly diluting it down they're making it less of a food and more of a drink will make it hopefully make him rely on it less here it is here's your milk kiss oh hey hey calm down [Music] and dr. tipper is helping Jenna stay strong would you like to address the food throwing definitely here when you give them something to eat put him at the table if it starts throwing things I want you to say to him Jensen we don't throw food and if you throw food again I'm taking it away the key to this is consistency yeah off the bowl into the world mealtime rule number two mums in charge and it seems to work okay you stop playing with his food and started scuffing it is it all gone well done things are changing for Thomas and his family to plan is to wait Thomas a spice modernize it fit you out and I think Thomas is looking forward to it spend time when he zone out here and do things that he wants to do if everyone around him Thomas's diagnosis if high-functioning autism has already begun to unlock support for him and his family yeah good news this morning just received a letter from the surgery assessment service he's going to receive an educational psychologist and a teacher from the autism people to get the help and support in school as well as working with Thomas's school they're going to work with us you know how to manage Thomas in a better way joe manchin so I can just pray for my trains and my Lego we're gonna put this the help and support has been the pose truth make life better for us as a family within the next couple of weeks it will fall into place for know when I get stressed and kind of come here [Music] you

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Published: Sat Apr 20 2019