The REAL truth about the Leyland Princess

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A few months ago I got to drive a Leyland Princess  for the first time and two things happened that   were entirely unexpected and made me very happy.  The first was that I discovered its secret weapon   that makes it one of the most fun drives I've had  all year and the second is that halfway through my   day with the Princess - and we had its Triumph TR7  stablemate along as well - by sheer coincidence   we bumped into the man who designed both cars. I  know right, what are the chances? Hre's the story  I've been curious to try a Princess for a long  time - no not like that - so when a friend offered   me the chance to drive this one I was very keen.  Our excuse came when there was a BL Day being   held in September of this year at Milton Keynes  which is a pleasant cross-country drive away from   where the Princess lives. This particular car  is a 2200 HL which means it's got medium posh   trim and the 2.2 litre straight six E-Series  engine. It looks fantastic in this coppery   metallic colour which is called Reynard and for  my money is one of the two best colours you can   get a Princess in, the other one being Jade Green. Somewhere along the line a previous owner of this   car, which is an HL, got a bad case of HLS envy  and screwed a load of lacquered veneer panels   all over the dashboard and the door cards. Even  the very short-lived Wolseley version didn't get   this level of wood applied to it and it sounds a  bit horrid but actually while I'd stop short of   recommending that everybody do this it doesn't  look too bad. It kind of gets away with it,   it's been quite neatly done even down  to this makeshift glove box where there   ought to just be an open shelf. It certainly  doesn't detract from the overall experience.  And the overall experience is one of gosh  what a lot of space. The transverse engine   means that the bulkhead is well forward so  there's bags of leg room front and rear.   Front wheel drive means the floor is nice and  flat too so the middle passenger on the back   seat isn't viewing the world from between her  knees, at least not if you fold up this rather   nice arm rest. The window line curves elegantly  downwards before it rises with the wedge-shaped   profile which adds to the feeling of airiness  along with the slim pillars - less useful for   rollover protection but it was a different age. Mounting the engine sideways means that the bonnet   line can be shorter and so it allows for a really  shallow rake to the windscreen. Look at it next to   this Volvo 240 for example, the Princess’s screen  is set at a much shallower angle. The boot is very   capacious too although the opening is a little bit  letterbox-like for bigger boxy bulky items which   begs a question: with that sloping back why on  earth didn't Harris Mann design it as a hatchback?   Well the answer of course is that  he did and here's how I know.  Arriving at the BL day we parked the Princess  up alongside her royal sisters – a 1975 so   very early Wolseley badged version and  a 1976 more basic Princess 1800. We were   just standing there admiring the styling  when a gentleman who was standing next to   us asked if we meant him and of course we  did for it was none other than Harris Mann   himself by the most wonderful of coincidences. Now although he was generous with his time and we   had a really good conversation, I didn't actually  record an interview with him. It just wouldn't   have been the right thing to do. He hadn't  come to do that, we hadn't arranged anything,   I didn't have microphones set up and there were  much more official BL Day people patiently waiting   to talk to him even though he was generous  with his time and we had a really good chat.   But I did ask him about the hatchback thing  and what he said was that of course he did   design it with a hatchback but the BL management  types felt that there was already one of those   in the range with the Maxi and one of these  newfangled tailgate things was quite enough.  As for Harris Mann's own taste in classic cars  he confessed to me that while he doesn't run a   classic at the moment he does have a bit of a  thing for old Citroens and used to run a GS,   so there you go, I didn't know that. Series one Princesses like this one run   either the 1.8 litre B series engine from the MGB  and Marina and stuff or this 2.2 litre E Series   six. Both were carried over from the ADO17  Landcrab series that the Princess replaced   in 1975. The six soldiered on in the Princess  2 from 1978 as well when the four-cylinder cars   got replaced by the 1.7 litre or 2 litre versions  of the O-Series engine instead of the B. It's fed   by two SU carburettors and sits sideways here in  the engine bay with epic amounts of space around   it so you can get at stuff. The impression  of space is further added to by the fact   that there are no strut towers on the front wheel  arches but more on the voodoo suspension later.  Actually this 2200 engine was originally developed  by Leyland Australia for its Kimberley and Tasman   cars. It's basically one and a half of the 1.5  litre E-Series engines used in the Maxi though   BMC Australia pulled it out of their Morris 1500  and Nomad cars. I get quite a lot of viewers from   Australia - well proportionally at least, I  don't get a lot of viewers from anywhere - so   hi if that's you, thank you for watching and  thank you also for having a car culture that   habitually added extra cylinders onto some quite  lacklustre four-cylinder BMC engines. Nice work.  Power output is 110 bhp at 5250 rpm. 50 bhp per  litre is quite modest really if I'm honest but   the long stroke means that it's actually more  focused on torque, which is a more respectable   125 lb ft at 3400 rpm, which is a little bit  higher than what you'd call lazy but still   pretty usable. It pulls away really nicely and you  don't need to go down to first really for decent   acceleration off the line, second will do in most  situations. I don't know what revs we were doing   because one thing you don't get in a Princess is  a rev counter. We've got a very big clock here   where a rev counter would naturally go but  certainly on this HL you get a clock rather   than the rev counter. Not sure if the HLS is the  same, I think it is, I don't think Princesses and   rev counters were ever found in the same space. It does beg a question though: what if the   2.2 litre engine had been based on the 1750  four-cylinder E-Series instead of the 1500?   Then it would have been a 2.6 and had much  stronger performance. In fact those heroes   at Leyland Australia did build such an engine and  put it in their P76 and even a Morris Marina of   all things for the local Australian market. It  generated about 10% more power but a thumping   165 lb ft of torque although they did put that  through the back wheels rather than the front in   both of those cars so perhaps there would have  been epic amounts of steering wheel fight which   is certainly absent on the 2.2 litre Princess. But I also wonder whether having a 2.6 litre   engine would have taken it too far into the  territory of the SD1. I asked Harris Mann about   this too: he downplayed it though. Rover was  a separate division at the time if there were   such discussions about the clash between the SD1  and the Princess then he wasn't party to them.  Besides its roominess and avant-garde styling  the Princess had another pearl to her string and   that's its Hydragas suspension. The way this works  is that instead of springs there's a pressurized   sphere of nitrogen gas mounted at each wheel and  they’re connected fore and aft but not side to   side, so that when the front wheels hit a bump  or go down a pothole there's a corresponding   increase or decrease in pressure in the rear  sphere so it evens out the suspension load and   smoothes the ride. And it works really well.  The suspension I think I'm really impressed by   it's very smooth this isn't the best  road surface but it feels like it is.   It corners beautifully flat there’s a fantastic  balance between ride comfort and road holding.   It's a little bit like Citroen’s famous  hydropneumatic system but it's a lot simpler   because there isn't a hydraulic pump that's  continuously maintaining the pressure - the   system's pressurized once and just stays there, at  least in theory. It just floats over these speed   bumps no problem at all you could fly over them  at full speed but obviously we won't because speed   bumps are there for a reason but the Princess  deals with them with great grace. Of course when I   say it's simple I speak as someone who doesn't own  one of these cars and doesn't have to worry about   finding replacement spheres and Schrader valves  and pipes and all of the stuff that goes into it   if you come out one morning and find that one side  of the car is a little bit lower than the other   and your Hydragas has turned into Hydrasag. The steering is delightful,   it's pretty light and it's a big wheel this  thin rimmed and a little bit plasticky which   is perhaps a bit of a shame but the actual feel  of the steering is really nice. It's very light   but it's quite precise which lends itself  nicely to a fastish A road like this one. It   turns in nicely no hint of understeer even  though it's front wheel drive just tracks around   in a way that almost belies its size  because it's a fair-sized car this.  So far so good but even I have to admit that there  are still a couple of peas under the Princess's   mattress. The thing is while Ford's ruthlessly  effective PR team elbowed British Leyland out   of The Professionals to give the Capri, the  Escort RS2000 and the Granada a macho image   that's still current even 40 years later, BL’s  people could only manage to displace a Granada   on that rather comfy slippers sitcom Terry  and June. This doesn't help. There is also the   reputation for reliability and build quality  from the somewhat strike prone Leyland era.   There's some validity to this for sure although  as ever the cars that survived today have had so   much maintenance or were just lucky in the first  place that any real lemons out there have long   since gone so you probably shouldn't be letting  that cloud your judgment of how desirable it is   as a classic 40 odd years later. But image is in  the eye of the beholder and one person's princess   maybe another person's ugly sister. The Princess's other shortcoming and   this is probably a bit more valid is the lack of a  fifth gear. It does sound a little bit revvy. I've   already once I've only been going a few miles  but I've already once found myself reaching   for a fifth gear that isn't there. It's not a  massive issue, the car will cruise comfortably   at 70 which is all you're allowed to do in the  UK, right? It's happier on an A road. In fact   I was very happy on an a road and that leads  me on to the second big surprise of the day.  And this came on the way home when I discovered  that the secret to getting the best performance   out of the Princess and finding the driver's  car that's hidden within is that the pedals   are perfectly set up for heel and toe gear  changing, and I mean perfectly - it's one of   the best cars for this that I've driven. Heel  and toe gear changing of course means that as   you approach a bend on a fast A or B road you  can blip the throttle with the heel of your   foot for a smooth downshift at the same time as  you're pressing the brake pedal with the ball   of your foot while your left foot has got the  clutch down to change gear. What this means is   that you can brake much later and harder and be  on the throttle much quicker to pull out of the   bend as you pass the apex and have a much smoother  gear shift and keep the engine revs in that sweet   spot around 3400 rpm for maximum torque. All of  which means that although the car isn't on paper   outright fast you actually need to spend very  little time going slowly which makes for a much   more rewarding drive. Because it's not a modern  car, I'm talking about it feeling fast and fun   rather than outright stupid hooligan speeds and  frankly I was in a lot more danger of getting   arrested for having a cheesy grin with intent than  I was for actually speeding or dangerous driving.  If you're interested by the way this car is  potentially for sale. If you think you might   want to make an offer then I'll put a link  in the description below, drop me a message   and I can put you in contact with the owner.  I'd be pretty tempted myself I really like it   but the usual reasons of not enough space and  too many cars mean it's not for me this time.  I’ve always thought the Princess was a  handsome car, a truly distinctive design,   and I like it all the more now that  I’ve not only driven one and driven   it properly but also met the man who  created it. And if you’re a fan of   1970s wedge-shaped car designs then  you really need to watch this next.
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Channel: Grand Thrift Auto
Views: 453,711
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Keywords: Leyland Princess, Austin Princess, Wolseley 18/22, Austin 2200, BL Princess
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Length: 13min 45sec (825 seconds)
Published: Mon Dec 19 2022
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