The Oprah Winfrey Show (March 8, 2000)

[Music] [Laughter] their personal moments shaped how we look at the world now the people in some of the most famous photographs share the real stories behind those shots i saw the four bombs and instantly it's fire around me for so many people i think we thought you died what was going through your mind at that moment what was it like being in that wedding that day do you remember that the next thing we knew we were on the cover of every movie magazine the stories behind some of the most celebrated photos of our time coming up here we go [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] thanks for all that energy thank you it's like coming through the finish line every day walking through that door remember this heart-wrenching photograph remember this there's not a person in this room who doesn't know what that is right you've all seen that photograph okay doesn't it make you wonder what happened next to the little girl in the picture i know a lot a lot of people i'm sure thought that she died well she's here to tell us the incredible story behind that famous image and there is a touching story behind also this candid picture remember this yes it's one of the few unstaged moments from the wedding of the century two of princess diana's bridesmaids are here to share that story we have also tracked down some of the people featured in the most celebrated photographs of our time and we're going to hear the incredible stories behind the powerful images that have made us laugh and cry a lot here's a look at some of the greatest pictures that have inspired us to see the world in a different way photographs we loved pictures that made us cry images that inspired us to reach even greater hypes faces that forced the world to change [Music] so [Music] this girl was the envy of millions of teenagers when she was in a picture with the beatles that ended up on magazine covers everywhere take a look nobody had ever seen anything like them ever the beatles on their first u.s tour everywhere they went they were met by crowds of screaming creeping fading teenage girls while the rest of the country was dying to get close to john george ringo and paul a 17 year old high school student got the picture of a lifetime carol oleski and her friend barbara posed for this photo with ringo on a miami beach this picture became famous and made the cover of movie magazines everywhere and was printed in life magazine [Music] so carol is here today to tell us that fun story behind her photos with the beatles carol come on out here how'd that happen [Applause] well my best friends and i were doing a modeling for a car show and the photographer said you know those guys the beatles are coming and would you like to have your pictures taken with them where were you we were in miami beach where we lived and they said meet us at 85th street beach and they'll be there because we need some young girls to share pictures with you know so do you believe it even like well we didn't but we went anyway we waited about an hour and a half and figured they're not coming and just as we were about to leave they showed up the beatles the photographers everything and they said come on you girls and push this in the water shot pictures like crazy and the next thing we knew we were on the cover of every movie magazine so the big deal is everybody wants to know did you get to date one of them well we hung out with them um we spent uh what was your favorite my favorite was george was it really i was a paul girl myself okay so what happened what happened didn't he didn't you go out with him or something well i was supposed to um and my mom said if anybody wants to come to the house to take you out they or they have to come to the house if they're going to go out with you so um sounds like my dad it was very difficult to explain to her that that wouldn't be george couldn't come knocking on the door so my girlfriends and i devised the way that we could all be together and hang out and they traveled around they rented a movie moving van uh-huh and um that's how they went around miami beach and so weren't you in the front row the ed sullivan show they insisted you know that we'd come and be in the ed sullivan you know shall be with them before the show and then during the show we were right like front row center and all these girls were screaming and yelling and we were right there i know it's a member you'll never forget never okay carol thank you so much thanks carol all right some of the most memorable pictures of the baby booms generation were taken at woodstock in 1969. this couple was captured on film embracing and the picture became the most well-known image from the festival it's been 30 years and we were curious to see what happened to these flower children we tracked them down in middleton new york and wait until you see how much they've changed coming up nicholas and bobby wow so what was going on there a little lightheartedness a little tiredness a little dampness little mud but you have you been together ever since yeah since 1969 um it's been 28 marvel's years of marriage that's wonderful do you now do you have do you have this photograph yeah yeah you do yes we have a couple of them actually yeah we have one that hangs in our kitchen uh over our kitchen table yeah and uh our son has another one in his room yeah um well this was photo this was shown all over the world so what was that like for you well actually the further we get away from the actual event the bigger it gets yeah um our 15 minutes of fame has stretched on now for 30 years it's been a lot of fun i hear you that you still hug her like that every day every day yes every day you're my best friend thank you bobby and nick thank you now my next guests were part of the magical royal wedding that was watched by millions worldwide but it was an unstaged photograph with her young bridesmaids that captured the unique kindness of the new princess take a look five young girls were hand chosen by prince charles and lady diana spencer as her bridesmaids for the wedding of the century it was 18 years ago that these pretty little maids all in a row walked down the aisle with a princess on the happiest day of her life five-year-old clementine one of lady diana's favorite kindergarten pupils was the youngest in the wedding party just before diana joined her groom on the balcony for their famous kiss clementine slipped and hurt herself and that's when the new princess took time out to comfort her young bridesmaid it was a spontaneous moment one of the few unstaged shots captured on camera that day clementine is here today she is now 23 years old we found her in london where she's a drama student also here is india hicks who is prince god daughter who was just 13 when she was one of princess diana's bridesmaids [Music] welcome so what happened with that day well i think we just had our photographs taken for the sort of the main shot we were walking down a corridor and i slipped and i bumped my head and she said to me did you bump your bottom anyway so um and i said no no i bought my head i was very embarrassed that i thought that she could have possibly thought that it was my what was it like being in that wedding that day do you remember that it was i think for me i was so young but it was all about just being part of this sort of about the dresses about the the occasion it wasn't about being a royal wedding or it wasn't yeah yeah was it what was it like for you for me it was certainly like being in a royal wedding because i was just that much older that i understood how old were you i was 13. yeah you got it yes um but it was um it was a sort of occasion that was beyond our wildest dreams in terms of press and organization and the amount of rehearsals that we had and uh what was it like before the wedding it was it was fun because diana was young enough that uh the age gap wasn't so enormous yeah she was just six years older than you exactly and uh when she was having her hair done just before she had the tiara on and her jeans which is an extraordinary look and the television was playing and they were showing all all of diana's background and things and she kept saying move moved whoever would stand in front because for her first time she'd seen her life on television and she'd seen any kind of publicity like that to that extent you both have been around royalty all of your lives right who's the granddaughter great-granddaughter of sir winston no i am you are churchill yes my goodness i understand she left you a memento did she she did i think she left all of us in memento this is this is a rose from the bouquet that she carried down the aisle but she then had set in glass and we all use his paperweights really yeah mister i'm sure it's it's a strange turn of events yes it's it's still hard to believe it she's really gone extraordinary well clementine's story is one of the many featured in life magazine's special issue greatest pictures of the century there are lots of great pictures in there thank you both for traveling that way to see us coming up we'll meet the girl in this disturbing photograph who ran naked and screaming in pain after her village was bombed we'll find out what happened to her next [Music] a perfect example of a photograph that changes the way you feel about a certain situation was the john philo photograph of the uh murdered student at kent state happened may 4th 1970. the students at kent state were doing what they thought they had the american right to do which was to protest governmental action and they were slaughtered for it by the national guard neil young saw the image had his guitar walked off into the woods and came back an hour later with a song called ohio written from absolute anger that we would do this to our students so that was a great image that reached deeply into your emotional soul and showed you what had happened it's hard to believe that happened in the united states you can see more of graham nash's interview on the pbs series american photography a century of images so we're looking today at pictures powerful enough to change the way we see the world that's the beauty of a still photograph this pulitzer prize-winning photograph touched hearts worldwide and ultimately led to a change in public opinion literally about the war in vietnam take a look at the tragic story behind the young girl whose image is burned in our memory kim fuke was the cherished daughter of well-off south vietnamese parents in 1972 when kim was just nine her life took a tragic turn when her village was mistakenly hit by south vietnamese bombers in a u.s ordered strike out of the fire emerged kim's aunt carrying her three-year-old baby whose skin was hanging from him like torn clothes the child kim's cousin would later die and then kim was seen running naked screaming in pain from napalm burns that covered her body she had just ripped off her burning clothes with a single click of ap photographer nick hoot's camera her anguished image was captured forever kim's photograph touched hearts worldwide and is credited with changing public opinion about that war come on out kim great to see you i i hear that you say god used you that day to help end the war yes i know that the picture is uh it's a impart that was very dramatic very powerful it's changed the way the people look at the vietnam war and at all wars around the world and they can see how horrible war can be and they can see why the children have to suffer like that right what had just happened before that photograph was taken with refuse in the pagoda yeah and we have lunch and the soldier they recognize that uh you know uh the signal that indicates the pagoda was going to be bombed and then they asked the children running out and then i remember when i saw the plane uh you know getting down getting lower and i saw the four bombs landing down and instantly it's fire around me and my clothes suddenly is gone by fire and i saw the fire over me and i did like that and stick here and it got burned and i thank god if my feet were and burned so i could run in out of the fire so your feet were the only thing that weren't burned so you were able to run yes because if i die over there who knows it's amazing grace that your feet were not burned yes and so now you're married and living in canada i'm yes i'm thank god i have a wonderful family a lovely husband and two lovely sons um thomas is five years old and stephen to two years old and i living with my family um my parents in canada do you have this photograph do you keep this photograph i have it but i don't i want i don't want to see it by myself because it's really remind me that it's happened so it's still hard for you to see that photograph yes but i thank god that i can share with you i can see and i can talk about that about forgiveness and um that's the people you can forgive the war i i uh you know i learned how to forgive the people who caused my suffering you did yes i did i thank god for that i i tell you that it was the the you know the fire of bomb that burned my body it was skill of doctor that mendes my skin but it took the power of god love healed my heart that's why i'm here okay uh kim still has scars from the bombing 27 years ago that were visible in recent photographs shot for life magazine amazing 27 years ago i was 17 operation and 14 months in the hospital the people were there helped me that's why i am alive kim is the subject of a new book called the girl in the picture which is available now in canada and will soon be in stores in the united states it's an honor to have you here thank you you are a blessing to us all thank you when we come back how this shocking image of racism sparked a friendship if you can believe it 40 years later but first a photograph of a violent execution that left tears in the eyes of general general norman schwarzkopf take a look at how it changed his life i was 10 years old when i saw this picture my dad was overseas in the military i knew i was destined to go to west point and the picture frightened me i projected myself into the mind of this poor man kneeling there knowing what was going to happen to him and i thought what terror must be in his mind and it's a look on the face of the man who is wielding the sword and really really terrifying the look on the face of some of the spectators it's frightening they're actually enjoying this terrible moment and having seen that picture i determined that no matter how terrible war became neither i nor anybody under my command would ever ever commit such an atrocity [Music] okay now take a look at this photograph that uh captured deep-seated racism in 1957 this is elizabeth eckford she is the lone or was the lone black student in the hateful mob outside central high school in little rock arkansas she didn't get the message to stay home from school that day as other students had and this is hazel bryan the enraged white student you see behind her who tormented elizabeth as she walked in front of her high school where a national guardsman had blocked her from entering elizabeth met hazel for the first time two years ago in little rock and now they are friends they are friends would you have ever imagined that could happen no no what was going through your mind at that moment when she passed i just knew that um integration was supposed to happen in a high school and my parents and everybody i knew were against it elizabeth what was going through your mind i was trying to get to safety um i knew i couldn't go back in the direction when i had come because they were on my heels and safety looked forward in at the next corner where there was a bus stop and a drug store where i hoped to call a cab i do you still find it difficult to look at that photograph yes obviously you do it still causes a great deal of emotion why because i am in that moment some photographs tell the story of what is happening at the time in that photograph tells the story of what was happening at that moment on that day and it shows strong emotion i suppose there's contrast because you don't see what i'm feeling but you see what the people behind me are feeling yeah had you been dropped off there you've been i had i had ridden a bus to within two blocks of the school and as i walked those two blocks i noticed that there were more cars than usual i could hear the member of the crowd but the crowd was across the street the soldiers were ringing the perimeter of the school and i thought that soldiers were there to protect everybody to keep order as the governor had said hazel you feel what when you look at that picture remorse regret embarrassed yeah embarrassed so what we want to know is how you all got to be friends [Music] well after a photograph like that i had only talked to hazel back in 1963 when i when she called and i called to apologize in 1963 but i had never met her and all those years i wasn't sure which of the girls behind me hazel was so then in september 97 uh when i was offered a chance to meet her i wanted to and i'd always been curious um really about who those people were well i knew who some of them worked with some of some of them one of them was a ringleader of the people who tormented us in school but i wasn't sure which one hazel was you called in 63 which was uh six years six years afterwards so by 63 you knew how bad it was oh i knew how bad it was i think right away and you called her because you wanted to say what i'm sorry yeah i'm sorry thank you both now meet carolyn she says she still cries when she sees this photograph of herself at age 14 being penned against a brick wall by police who aimed high-pressure fire hoses at civil rights demonstrators what were you all demonstrating that day we were uh demonstrating to have uh various public facilities uh desegregated in brooklyn was that this was in birmingham alabama and uh this particular march was after we had had a very motivational meeting over at the church in the meeting they told us a lot of things to watch for or a lot of things that the police might possibly do this was not one of the things that they had mentioned so i was in that photo uh uh i think a lot of words describe what i was thinking uh disillusioned uh bewildered i was definitely frightened and the water pressure from the hoses is 100 pounds of pressure per minute it's a very painful hose so in addition to thinking all of these things you have the pain of the water uh and and also being cold and wet well thank you carolyn coming up president kennedy gave one photographer unprecedented access to his family and his private life during the white house years next that photographer shares some rarely seen photographs in home movies home movies but first annie leibowitz is renowned for getting famous people to do the darndest things who could forget the pregnant demi moore on the cover of vanity fair and she took this photo of john lennon and yoko ono just hours before he was shot lauren hutton also agreed to undress for annie take a and look like a great big kid i had worked with hundreds of photographers and uh she was the very first one that said to me what are you about you know she comes and shoots your world instead of trying to put you into her world and that's how she takes these extraordinary pictures i have to love mud i grew up in you know nearby halls and i love them i grew up in swamp so i laid down this mud and he said oh that's great let me take that picture and then i put mud all over me and i laid them but i was just about to put over my face and i said stop it's one of my very favorite pictures today we're hearing stories behind some of the most celebrated pictures of our time some of the nation's most treasured images were taken 40 years ago when john and jacqueline kennedy were in the white house i was in a bookstore the other day every time you see a book of these photographs you still are drawn to them photographer cecil stouten uh sometimes spent nearly 24 hours a day with the kennedys take a look they are part of our warmest memories portraits a charming father cuddling his little girl of a stylish young mother and her curious son everything about them is relaxed carefree so seemingly normal except for one thing the father was president john f kennedy and the world had never seen anything like this there were many occasions when it was just them and me i just was allowed to come in and hang around in a corner like a mouse and shoot off these little cans of pictures they were just living their normal life but i was stealing it for you cecil stoughton then a captain in the army was the white house photographer for jfk's entire presidency he says that jackie kennedy loved making family scrapbooks and so granted him unprecedented access to the energetic first family they both love the pictures of the children you recall a picture of john playing with jackie's beads around her neck that was just a night that she had called and said come over and to make a series of pictures of me putting the children to bed the president came by and sat down on the floor and played with the boys drum they were the epitome of youth and their exuberance was just natural for them the captivating pictures he took humanized the presidency and helped immortalize the kennedy white house as camelot my favorite picture would have to be the one of the children dancing in the president's office he'd go to the door and clap his hands and then come running just like puppies captain stoughton also took home movies ones the family watched almost every weekend well they had a lot of caroline riding her pony and having races with her cousins and things like that little john was only two going on three during the summer of 1963. one time he saw me with my camera he said captain toad take my picture as for john junior's passing i felt that i lost a son stoughton says that some of his most poignant footage is of little john like these rarely seen images of a playful jackie teaching her son how to salute just two weeks later another photographer stanley stearns would capture the small boy delivering the same salute and the picture that broke our hearts although cecil left the white house soon after kennedy's assassination he says he knows the images he took will endure i think my part of camelot will live after me i think how great it was that i was there to record that amazing this is david friend he spent 19 years at life magazine as director of photography there and is now the editor of creative development at vanity fair and david says that some pictures are so memorable because they just capture the moments of honesty that's why the photograph i think of princess diana bending down to clementine you know that wasn't a stage thing yeah it was candid it touched us because of its immediacy an iconic picture is usually a picture that is full of emotion it's a picture that evokes emotion and it's graphically simple you think of greta garbo with her hands through her hair shot for vanity fair or you think of a photograph like harry truman holding up a newspaper it's very graphically simple what makes a great photograph a great photograph is a picture that that touches our hearts i think we we sort of live in a society where we see things very quickly on television photographs slow things down a still photograph forces us to be still and helps us reflect and so pictures have that a power through that well these exclusive photographs of carolyn bessette kennedy appeared in vanity fair uh recently shortly after her death these are the only pictures that uh reveal a more personal side of carolyn that the public uh never saw we got to know her for so short of time when bruce weber brought these pictures graydon carter our editor ripped up the magazine and put it on the cover and i think these intimate moments in glen cove long island photograph for just a small art magazine i think only two of them had ever run before we ran it for pages and pages in the magazine and you got this feeling i think this is how carolyn bessette will be remembered is this intimacy with her with her dog friday whom she loved now was vanity fair planning on doing a big big shoot with her pictures had been done for a very small art magazine and only two of them had run for a mutual friend joe mckenna a mutual friend of bruce's and carolyn bessettes had just taken these on an afternoon in glen cove wow and uh have not been seen since this and now this is the second time they've been seen is on the over show well thank you thank great and carter for letting us show them well david says madonna is someone who understands the power of pictures and has reinvented herself many times for the camera we know that miss madonna can do that but the photos that got the most attention show to relax madonna at home with her daughter that's true because you're looking for the real thing absolutely she's been on five covers the record number of covers for vanity fair and mario when he's mario tostino grant great photographer fabulous took these pictures and he madonna was calling lourdes lola throughout the session and he said she felt very relaxed that having her daughter with her has brought a new focus to her life and made her appear more relaxed oh they look very much alike there too let's see that thank you so much all right now let's take a look at one of us elizabeth taylor's favorite photographs the picture captures a precious moment with elizabeth taylor her six-month-old daughter and her husband michael todd who was killed three months later in a plane crash now here's what liz taylor told life magazine about that photograph she said it's got a feeling to me of eternal love liza was so loved by her father but never knew him i hope that when she looks at this photograph she can see it i was so lucky to have had that moment in my life six months after this picture was taken uh michael todd died in a plane crash and so this image has so many other poignant emotions as well thank you okay now some of the most infamous pictures of the legendary marilyn monroe were taken the night of president kennedy's 45th birthday the press was barred from that party but the president allowed one photographer cecil stoughton we saw earlier inside and there's a story behind those pictures and diane carroll who was at the party shared some of that with us take a look there was great tension in the city we all knew what was about to take place the president's birthday this was going to be an exciting night and possibly a piece of history the rumor was that marilyn monroe could possibly sing happy birthday to the president of the united states [Music] i looked up and here was robert and john and marilyn monroe in my frame in one frame and i just squeezed off one picture and of course the picture shows the president appearing to would be moving away from the camera which he was in fact i was lucky to get him in it i remember standing in front of this very charismatic man and he also had the charm that allowed you to believe that he was only speaking with you when i look at that photograph it reminds me that i have had a wonderful life wonderful experiences coming up this picture of the space shuttle challenger exploding horrified the nation we'll find out how the family of teacher christa mcauliffe is doing 13 years later we'll be right back okay now a heartwarming photograph of an emotional homecoming for prisoner of war it's called burst of joy take a look at this in 1973 591 americans held captive by the north vietnamese were finally coming home colonel robert sturm was one of those prisoners of war held captive for years in a north vietnamese prison camp colonel stern had been shot down and captured during a mission over hanoi he took three bullets to his neck and shoulder their pilots are normally very optimistic they believe everything's going to be better tomorrow we'd ask one another when do you think we'll get out i'll be next month if somebody would have said five and a half or six years in one lump sum that would have been difficult at the time of his homecoming colonel sturm had not seen his children in almost six years the youngest of the four children cindy was just five when her dad left for vietnam we wrote letters every week even though we never knew if they got to my dad cindy's brothers and sisters also found the waiting painful not knowing if their father was dead or alive we didn't know what was happening i got the impression several times during his his absence that he was dead now we would not see him again i'm always optimistic and i i figured he would come back but we were always told he might not make it back during those years that he was gone i grew up and it was very difficult because he wasn't there for those many years keeping me in line and giving me some guidance after their release the pows landed at travis air force base in northern california photographer sal vieder was there to greet them to see them come home brought tears to a lot of people's eyes and some of the photographers were pretty well shaken up as i was too i mean it was it was hard to concentrate colonel stern was the last one off the plane there was motion the family had started to run toward him and that's what caught my eye wow that's right and here's the family it's great to see [Applause] you five years as a prisoner of war did the letters get to you uh very few did i think maybe four or four five even though you guys were writing every week cindy says the picture to her is about your dreams coming true really indeed yeah yeah it um i had faith that my dad would come home although for five and a half years not knowing if he would not having a father at your functions and being there um but but we always had faith or i always had faith and it was a dream come true and um it he's my hero he's yeah you're our hero so colonel bob were your thoughts of your children your family did that keep you going that was probably the strongest thing i i'm a christian i have a lot of faith in in the lord and i had faith in my family and i had faith in my country thank you so much thank you okay nearly 14 years ago we all watched shocked saddened as the space shuttle challenger exploded before our eyes teacher christopher mcauliffe lost her life along with six other crew members christa's mother grace corrigan says that she has only looked at a picture of the explosion one other time too hard to see too hard to watch but you you felt that something was wrong as it was going up i heard i think we were all a little nervous that morning because it was so very cold and they had never launched in such cold weather before you could look out at the shuttle you could see icicles on it and they had been told not to launch because of the cold and it was just it just didn't feel right and just before they started the countdown my husband had said he said if i could go out there and take her off of that thing i certainly wouldn't i said well she wouldn't come though it was we just didn't feel right about it so how are you keeping her spirit alive you know the um 51l challenger shuttle launch was an educational mission and of course chris was going to teach two lessons from space and her really purpose of being there was to elevate the role of teachers to where it should be and to make kids excited and make kids want to learn and make them feel good about themselves and so that has now since happened uh there are all kinds of wonderful wonderful programs going on not only in this country but internationally that is carrying on this mission and her husband steve remarried yes and how are the children they're wonderful thank you yeah that's great coming up how our photographer helps people who have lost their spirit find it again we'll be right back [Music] here's what's on tomorrow a popular children's game a trip to the grocery store or even just taking your child to a public bathroom the last things in the world that should harm a child that was the first time that he had ever been in a public restroom by himself has anybody ever spoken to his killer why did he do that everyday things you let your children do could be deadly i know that this was not my fault and that some things happened that are out of our control that's tomorrow still to come how one photographer uses that camera to heal other people's pain i feel that i'm being touched and blessed to be able to give that kind of joy to someone who's hurting stay right here we've seen the power of pictures today now take a look at how photographer peggy sue seahaper of saint charles illinois found her spirit by helping a little girl named kelly find hers my daughter kelly was six when she was diagnosed with cancer kelly was not fond of having her photograph taken because she had lost all of her hair from chemotherapy but peggy sue had convinced her they have her photograph taken for the school yearbook after kelly saw the pictures she really realized how good she looked i can still sense kelly's quick wit her laughter even the softness of her skin her spirit as a photographer it was very important for me to be able to give kelly the images that she would feel proud of listening to kelly's mother and knowing how the photos of kelly have touched her have touched a depth of me that is almost unspeakable it is a true spirit of giving in life that i wish i could do every day there is no amount of money that could pay me to be able to give that kind of joy to someone who is hurting joan is undergoing chemotherapy for cancer so i asked her if i could photograph her dogs i'd like to believe that the humor we have is a healing factor they remember the humor that they had when they had the picture taken and then the humor helps heal them when people share with me at a time that they're very vulnerable and in pain i try and hope that i can lift them up a little bit at that time and they have no idea how much they're lifting me up my spirit is always renewed when i'm in the dark room looking at the images after photographing someone photographing kelly has truly changed my life every time i meet someone else that's going through a challenge i feel that i'm being touched and blessed by having someone allow me in their life in essence they give me strength by showing me how beautiful they are [Music] we'll be right back [Music] a very special thank you to uh life magazine for opening up their archives to us for this show uh thank you so much to vanity fair and uh thank you to all of my guests for being here to share your stories with us and let us see your pictures come to life thank you all so much [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] coming up next on first news at five four people are dead two others wounded after a 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