The Millyz Interview: Being White, Selling Coke, Boston, Jadakiss Becoming his Manager & More

no jumper coolest podcast in the world and today we got a man from my neck of the woods new england soldiers millie's is in the building how you doing man what's up man excellent doing good 617. that's that's what cambridge is all of cambridge in boston excellent yeah 603 my my neck of the world i with the 603 i've been to manchester for plenty of ratchet shows really yeah that's like kind of where it's at right yeah yeah i used to get booked there because i've been doing this for a long time like so right i used to get booked in manchester for the most ratchet shows ever really yeah i remember like around the time i left new hampshire i realized like oh like hell rel is playing some clubs in nashua yeah i'm from and like they're a little yeah they're nashville all that they had some artists who would come through and play and stuff and i was kind of i think i was oblivious to it like my whole time living there because we didn't really have that interest where did you live at nashville new hampshire that's where you grew up at yeah i mean i'm not gonna go into more detail because i'm not gonna mean anything to anyone on earth shout out new hampshire for sure your name came up because we were sort of having the whole conversation about basically there not being that many white rappers that are taken seriously in a way and all of a sudden boom we're getting blown up you gotta with this guy millie he's a hard rapper he's from the streets he's from boston you should know more about him came but yeah right but um yeah no i saw that and my name i think that the i think what y'all were talking about was uh there's no successful white rapper that has street content which is a fact like there's never been a white rapper that has blown up mainstream with street content in the music the closest was probably paul wall but he wasn't rapping about like he was rapping about like houston street culture but he wasn't talking about like you know really selling drugs or violence and but he to me he was the closest thing and then there's a couple out there that exist but i was looking at i'm like i'm i'm out here man right you know i mean i'm here i'm getting i'm getting money for features i'm doing my thing i'm i'm outside so i'm like come on y'all got to bring me up in the conversation man let's go and here we are yeah it's a beautiful thing um all right so take me back to a little bit of your well actually no before you even do that though i do think it's an interesting topic the whole you know just like how white people are perceived in rap like it's clearly like just like a kind of different standard there's like a different way that people are comfortable viewing rappers because like there are a lot of popular white rappers at this point in time it's just they all kind of exist in like a different space you got like a g-eazy or a jack harlow or a i don't even like eminem or you know there's like a lot of different lanes but when you think about like a lot of the most popular rap is stuff that is you know if you're gonna like include all kinds of like street content all the way from like nba young boy to like griselda you still don't really see that many white rappers being accepted in terms of like talking about street type stuff although like now getting more acquainted to your stuff and seeing how well your content is doing i mean you're definitely an exception to that rule yeah i feel like it's harder i feel like it's harder to make it as a white rapper but once you make it through it's way easier really that's when like all the white privilege kicks in and like that and your target and you know the big corporations want to work with you really so you're looking forward to that i don't know if that's going to happen like you know what i mean i'm because i'm doing the type of music i'm doing but uh right i've seen it happen with people yeah hell yeah definitely so you started like you've been rapping for a long time because i was watching like interview clips of you from like over 10 years ago yeah yeah no i'm in my early 30s i've been rapping since 2000 and 2008 like going hard passing out cds doing shows i hit the ceiling in boston in probably like 2011. i did summer jam because i've been lit where i'm from i've been lit in my neighborhood i've been lit and in the whole mass like i've always been the name but uh yeah it just took a while and then um i moved to new york in 2014 that's when i really started like really pursuing rap purely because it was always kind of like the streets and wrapped the streets and wrapped the streets and rap but once i got to new york i was able to leave a little bit of baggage behind and just purely focus on the music and um yeah so to that i would say really 2016 just started picking up okay so what was your life like prior to getting into the music game like what part i don't know like when you were real young like what kind of family upbringing did you have and were you around a lot of music yeah hell yeah it's funny because um my father now he actually lives in new hampshire but um at the time like he had like a real like so i lived with my mother and then i would see my father on the weekends and my father's house was like real like it was like a hub for artists so people would be in there um like real artistic people a lot of a lot of was going on actually the singer wapoli lived there i don't know if you ever heard closer to my dreams she's like a bay area legend okay yeah but um yeah his house was was was crazy it was a hub for artists you know people being there playing guitar going crazy just loud parties all night type and um i kind of my mother kind of took me out of that environment at a certain point she didn't feel like that was like the safest thing for me or whatever it was just kind of loose over there and uh i started living with her full time in this neighborhood called the coast in cambridge which is off of central square and uh like i i was like a normal kid besides the fact that i was like the only white kid in my neighborhood you know just a normal kid playing basketball and like that and slowly um i was i was put into special education when i was young for like behavior disorder some more what were you doing you just fighting just yeah but i just couldn't concentrate on so i would i would have fights i would i just couldn't like i just couldn't do school unless i'm interested in it if i'm interested in the subject like english and i always would pay attention anything else i was just i was just bad so they took me out the the regular classes with 30 kids they walk me down the hall and put me in a class like way smaller than this room with like six other kids and no windows and like when i'm like in sixth grade so that's like telling me all right you're not normal and then i'm just around all bad kids so you know still sharp and still and we just got progressively worse types do you think that you were that you should have been in those classes at all like obviously some people need that special level of assistance but did you feel like it was just kind of like arbitrary that they put you in there i don't know because i don't know how i would have been if they just put me in regular classes because that's all i've known since i was 11 is behavior disorder that's all i've known is like adderall and like i got prescribed drugs young you know what i mean like hell yeah so i was bouncing so i i don't i really don't know because i know that most of of the insane that i did came from the people that i was around because all i'm around is bad kids like as soon as they sat me in that room i'm around bad kids you're bad you're bad you're bad you're bad i'm bad let's be bad together that's why i had a fast acceleration into the streets like i was really scamming at like 11. really i had we had a big scam where i was getting some money it's we were scamming a charity and it's up so i don't want to talk about it like that but um then i started selling weed at like at like 12 whatever seventh grade is how old you are in seventh grade i got it booming really but it's cause i'm all around all these bad kids that are putting you on like if you if you know a kid who's selling weed on the other side of town it's like what's gonna stop you from being like i want to make money in my neighborhood or around the people i'm around but you want to one-up the people you're around right so you know that's the cool when you're young oh you got a knife i got a gun oh you got a i got an m16 you know what i mean it's like it's that type of mentality oh you you said weed i said crack like it's like just seeing how far you could take it so i feel like just being around that sped environment but i take sped now and i that was a derogatory word i take that and i make it uh i've transformed that word into like yeah you could be a sped and and get money and be successful i know a lot of millionaires are in special education i had a friend who was in special education and he ended up going to an ivy league college right see i didn't know that was possible because i never felt it was possible for me to go to college because i was like if i can't be in these classes if i can't stay in a class with 30 kids how can i possibly go to college so i ruled college out when i was 12. college was gone school was a dub instantly they let me in the rings but i'm telling you so rinses the public school okay cambridge public school or whatever but by the time i get in range i'm already selling weed and i'm good at it like i'm really good at it this is like reggie like three blunts and a dime and like good at it as in like you you had your process down you weren't gonna gonna get caught you were yeah yeah i had a whole system yeah hell yeah i used to wear like tighty whities and under my drawers and just put all the butt fill me that was my genius plan right there i'm smart though yeah but um i went to wrench and uh they let me into the public school i was still in the uh in the special ed classes they had me like in the basement of the public school and wren's is a fringe is like a high school where all the the basketball players came out patrick ewing came out of there cambridge got more basketball players than boston they might be mad about that you know what i mean but that's a fact right so that that's like what we do you either play basketball in cambridge or you you know figure out other to do so i got kicked out out of wrench instantly like i came in there selling weed but then they said i punched the teacher and then i had to go um for the rest of my high school experience i went to charlestown so you're saying you didn't punch the teacher nah i didn't really i like um i kind of like brushed by him with like my elbow a little bit and my elbow hit their face a little bit but i didn't punch him though interesting and sebastian they're slightly into that song interesting their standard for punching the teacher is probably like pretty low well you just kind of you know what happened because i was i had i had this chick and it was like the next day she wrote me a note and and the note said i'm pregnant but i didn't know in my brain like it doesn't work like that so i'm like damn she got pregnant overnight this is crazy so i was running to go see my men down the hall and i'm like yo bro i can't believe i got this chick pregnant and the security like teaser person stopped running in the halls and i just you know like one of those so it was over and then i went to um then i went to charlestown seaport academy which is like it was way worse than a sped experience as i was having before because now i'm in school with like the top-notch beds i'm in there with two kids from roxbury two kids from dorchester two kids from like winchester in these like suburban towns and they were the craziest like these dudes would come to school with um like a like an iron burn like the kids from the suburbs were crazy one came in with a with an iron burn because he tried to iron his shirt while it was on in the morning so he had third degree burns in the shape of an iron i thought you were going to say that his mom like no no they're an into him or something maybe that happened because that's the most i've ever heard no this is what i'm saying this is what i grew up around like they would take us on like on field trips to the aquarium and i remember this kid i'm not gonna say his name from east boston he knows who he is but we came out of the aquarium and he was laying down on this like steel bench out there or whatever it is one of those rock benches and he had put popcorn all over himself and it was like 70 pigeons just pecking on him and he was laughing like it was a joke and i'm like what type of people am i around you're gonna get covered in doing that yeah so that was my high school experience and all of that just led into like street because i was like alright college is done that's a wrap so now what could i do what's the next logical steps but i always had rap i was new i could rap so that was kind of like the progression but was there a lot of street when in paris who are you influenced by locally because that's kind of like one of the main things with boston is that yeah obviously like tons of people in boston love rap there's plenty of rappers in boston but it's just not like in comparison to if you were born in brooklyn or atlanta or whatever it's like there's more of a hip-hop industry that's like looking for young talent whereas like in boston it just doesn't feel like there's as much of that since there haven't been as many popular rappers that come out of boston yeah i mean i was inspired by i was inspired by benzino to a degree like i saw him like i knew like we had a um we have a tournament every year in my neighborhood called hoops and health oh like a big basketball tournament and i remember like the maid men uh pulling pulling up with uh like wrapped trucks and like i never saw a wrapped truck i said made man like like that that's probably the the most rap that i ever saw and then i remember seeing um smoke bulger i don't know if you heard of him he signed he's been rapping for a long time he signed to rick ross right now really but uh he uh he was in a in the herald i remember being in my school in charlestown and like looking in the newspaper and seeing him with the boston bruins jersey on with his chains on and and he had got a big deal from sony so that like kind of let me know all right is possible you know but i didn't really have no like big aspirations to blow up right there like i was just rapping and it's not like you had anybody who was like trying to nurture your talent nah nah that didn't happen until i went to new york right okay so we're still on the part of your life where you're like getting out of high school or not going to college right yeah yeah and so at that point like you get into the streets like uh i know you'd probably only get super specific although it has been a long hard time like what can you say about that well like i came up under a different cloth of dudes i remember being like like 12 right and i would hang out in this park maybe 13. i would hang out in this park called columbia park and at the time i knew this older dude and he was from the south his name was yg now at the time i'm not knowing he's on the run for murder in mississippi but he got gold in his mouth this is before like you could just go on instagram how now they could tell exactly how someone's living in baton rouge and and you could emulate their whole style this is when it's just you're in the east coast and that's what you know like whatever you see in the source or whatever so i'm directly seeing a real dope boy killer from allegedly because that's what he's booked for right now you know what i mean but innocent who knows but um yeah so i'm like i'm coming up under kind of like his tutelage because he would hustle in that park that i was at columbia park because that that like cambridge and that era early 2000s is like a it's still a drug zone but it's gentrified now but it was like a million dollar block that just zombies marching up and down a lot of foot traffic so he would hang out there sellers whatever and i would kind of just you know i would run to the store for him if i had to whatever but uh you know he was just ill he was super charismatic he had gold teeth money busting out his pockets he would go to that to the liquor store and buy like moet instead of like dudes was buying like enj and hennessy he would buy like a bottle of mo where i was like oh he's rich and um i came up like you know under people like him and then i remember like a year or two later i guess he had to go on the run again and he got caught in california but he was on america's most wanted and they showed like the park where we would chill at like that so these are like the type of people i came up under so then i'm like 14 15 figuring out for myself and i bump into another older guy from my neighborhood called beast and um beast had just came home he had actually did two years for for there was 32 dime bags of weed on the floor and he did two years for that really in a crowd of 12 people 32 dime bags so whatever that equivalates to but that you know when the marijuana laws was yeah terrible like i can't believe people did time for like that but he had came home on that but he was a big dog boy too when he came home and he had heard like from the neighborhood he was asking around like who could rap and everybody was like yo the white boy millies millie's could rap so he would take me to the studio and and kind of like just groom my talent um he took me to a studio on newbury you know newberry street in boston like affluent and he'd have me a nick weed liquor whatever put some money in my pocket and i was under his record label at the time block 617 when i'm like 15 16. but he's the plug so he's giving me free work too so now i got an upper invented because i started selling crack when i'm like 14. you know scared i just made that transition but by the time i got with beast i'm a little deeper in the game and it's like he's hitting me with free work so everything is profit because he's like you're my artist here or whatever wow and so i was under his wing he actually took me to the ozone awards when i was young in miami what the yeah you heard of that oh yeah yeah i was at the ozone awards when i'm like 16 17. so i had like real experiences through these bigger homies kind of that was grooming my talent because like a lot of people are trying to make it out of like you know a place like cambridge or whatever but they don't like that they don't even have like a vision of what it would actually be like but you go to the ozone awards it's like you're just surrounded by greatness i got a mascot right now did you see my mascot i don't think so i got a mascot like a life-size mascot of me type but i remember seeing haitian fresh at the ozone awards with the mascot wow and that's so it's like little things like that but even like that's why i got my man house here right now because he's younger i want to show him like aspirational because i saw when i was young like the ozone awards the beast took me to or whatever and that let me know like oh it's a whole big ass world out there this is when like prize is lit and like that but yeah so so i was under beast with block 617 and he would give me free studio free work all of that and uh we actually um we caught a case together me him and es but me and es beat our and he pled to what was caught on him or whatever and uh then he caught another case and he caught like another case but he ended up doing like 12 years and wow so he's home now that's still my man but i had like after he left i had to figure it out on myself and that was the first time like i didn't have any big homie type so now it's just me and a few of my homies and at the time i got like a spot in uh woodrow wilson it's like a little projects in my neighborhood or whatever because i had a i had to connect to get a spot where it was like 300 a month and so now i'm just in the spot with my people and we got really no guidance at this point like there's no big homie i'm like rapping but i'm kind of not rapping we're getting into like other we got tension with people we got issues with people like that and that was probably like the most unproductive part of my life um my homies ended up getting a life sentence that i would be with every day off of murder and um it's just a lot of going on getting shot at people you got a a lot of going on basically like that time during your life you had a bunch of good that was kind of going for you for certain periods of time but then you just kept having like you know basically seeing the downside of that life is like you could get thrown in jail for the rest of your life you get a crazy ass case yeah hell yeah like but like at first it was people taking me under their wing and then when i wasn't under nobody's wing and i had to figure it out for myself that's when kind of got a little a little scary right because when you have that guidance it's like you're not going to make as many mistakes and then all of a sudden when you're sort of on your own it's like yeah i had to figure it out and we're all young just trying to figure it out it would be all six of us just like sleeping in woodrow wilson every night doing whatever we doing and i was active like i was active like i was active and and we was all active and that led to i couldn't believe it but that led to you know my bros getting a life sentence and they should really be able to flip it because it was more like a self-defense i don't want to go too much into it you know what i mean but there's still it's still down to this day i got tatted on my arm and um were you were there times where you thought about quitting either you know trying to make it as a rapper or quitting trying to make it in the streets yeah i always did i didn't have like aspirations to make it in the streets because one thing i understood is you don't get like more than like a year and a half run type you get like a yeah if you're lucky in the streets you get like a three-year run and i was seeing that everyone was going to jail everyone was going to jail around me and i had cases i had a cocaine conspiracy charge beat that and then i got caught with um 14 grams i got caught with 14 grams of um crack or coke whatever at the hospital because somebody had got stabbed and i had drove them to the hospital and i left the car in the in the tow zone lane and i'm super bent in the hospital with my friend because it's really not that deep he was actually trying to like stop somebody he was trying to stop somebody from doing something and he got sliced on his hand so i'm in there with him and i'm just bent and i'm in the hospital and the cops come in and they're asking me questions and whatever long story short they arrest me for a dui but then i didn't know they had the right to search my car because it's called the inventory search wow basically like if they tow your car they have the right to search it just in case you could say yo i had six million dollars in there now they search it to put it on a record or whatever so they they searched the out of it and they and and they found that so i got charged with um like distribution or whatever but with my lawyer we bust it down to uh we bust it down to a possession with the dui in a two and a half years to spend a sentence so i had i had um that like over my head so i would be a little easy too but yeah that was like the most tumultuous point and then a lot of bro i could just go on like i lived a long life you know what i mean but um i don't know where you want to go from there what do you think kept you from ending up doing like a serious amount of time you feel like does that make you feel like you were meant to be here that you saw all these people around you get locked up no i got it i got i got illicit than that like i've i've been through like divine intervention i don't know if you like believe in god like but i've been through like divine intervention like miracles actual miracles i was going to this show one time and um this is right after my homies uh went down for murder and i want to say like i don't see i won't be like i told this story before on 23 and 1. shout out to my boy josh but it's all entertainment you know what i mean just a cacao no this is whatever this is this is like uh i just want to cover myself you know me i don't wanna right right this is a long time ago 16 years ago and it's just a story for no jumper but yeah we had a show or whatever and uh a lot of was going on and i i had this little flight jacket and i had a plan like with the flight jacket um like if anything goes on in this club i'ma just shoot through the flight jacket it was like one of the black shits with the with the with the orange inside twenty dollar flight like like that but the black i had the pistol in my pocket so it's just just going on and it kind of gets spooky at one point in the club and it's the first time the first time i ever got in a encounter where i like shot at somebody out of fear or tried and because somebody broke through the crowd towards me after a little altercation and it looked like they were uh it looked like they were up in something and i backed up it's the first time i ever dumped out of fear and i backed up and i mind you i had a brand new 2-2 revolver perfect it was perfect there was nothing wrong with it i backed up when he broke through the crowd click click click and it didn't go off big melee we run to the bathroom and and i'm like yo like my people are like yo what's going on i'm like yo bro i swear to god i try to boom him i look in my pocket and i take the take the gun out the toy gun out and it's it's in like five different pieces and i don't even know how to break a gun down with my hands right like i don't know how to do that and it's a new joint that had been tested and all of that there's no way i could have took it apart in my pocket the safety pins out the barrels over here it's in like four pieces i passed a piece to bro bro bro bro and we walk out of there and in hindsight if that gun went off it was security right there was a camera right there camera right there camera right there the detectives was driving by right there god came and disassembled the gun in my pocket that's what i believe because i you can't explain it to me you can't tell me it was a piece of gun because we were running around with this that never happened and i don't know how to do that that is pretty to me that's divine intervention that's why i'm like a cross is on my face it's like i'm godly i believe he took me out of that life with that or he showed me something and i always go to that whenever i'm in any sort of tumultuous situation i always just remember like bro i've been like i'm literally a product of a miracle right what happened with the guy who was coming towards you it was like a melee you know um i think people on his side was like you know oh you packed up they might have thought i ran on them right yeah but yeah so what are you thinking about that night when you're laying in bed you're thinking like no that's just yeah that boggled my mind to this day at first you know i'm young and dumb so i keep trying to tell my people like i squeezed bro i swear to god i squeezed bro i swear that's what i was on but then like as i got older i'm like damn that's divine intervention and there's there's another situation i would talk about but it's too that's that's too much but it man it's it's just like i just feel like god's strongly in my life and i feel like that's why like i've never um [Music] i've i've been able to pursue this rapture and i help people out with it you know what i mean like i help a lot of people around me and i'm trying to lift as many artists up out of mass as i can i got a gang full of artists outside they got to meet you after oh you know what i mean yeah i mean i feel like from watching the interviews with you from like 10 11 years ago that i just saw i wish they would take those offline oh god i mean your confidence just feels like it's kind of grown a lot over the years well i was scared to speak on like camera and like that before because i always had like a subconscious subconscious of the world right yeah i always had like a subconscious thing about like my voice because i kind of like grew up in like a neighborhood being the only white kid but then when i started being in other environments and realizing like oh people judge me for how i'm speaking then i got self-conscious about my voice because i was criticized for it but now i'm just like it it is weird you should have a gnarly ass boston accent we don't have that like in our neighborhood really that's like in like east cambridge you got that right yeah like east came cambridge is broke down like it's like there's the coast which was like a famous like black area that's where like patrick ewing and like um the jarvis families from like mike's like a lot of basketball royalty in the port like ramil robinson but then you have like like east cambridge which was like tough irish kids and tough italians and portuguese kids and like that they have that accent right so when i'd go to school in like charlestown they have that accent right the town but it just depends on the neighborhood that you've grown up in yeah cambridge is seven minutes from the town right or like f you know from where they shot that movie and yeah because i remember when i first went to new york when i was maybe like 18 19 there was definitely a lot of people like the young ass kids from brooklyn and that we're out riding bikes with they're looking at me and my accent and the fact that i say wicked and and wicked all this they're looking at me like i'm so weird they're like where are you from i'm like new hampshire they're like they have no idea what that i might as well said you gotta put it on the map you and chris brickley you know who chris brickley is he's the number one basketball trainer in the world this is chris brickley 603. he trains james hard and he trains durant he trains all of them wow 603 you and him doing it big and mandy moore and mandy moore yeah for sure mandy moore um okay so like when would you identify as like kind of one of the the peak moments for you just taking your rap career series more serious because it seems like you were steadily just like getting that to that point over like the last decade or so like you just kept getting more and more serious you kept figuring out a little bit more mm-hmm um like really i could say like like a year ago because how you said figuring it out i had to just i figured out like a lot of before i used to be like all right if i'm really living this music i don't need the image with it i don't need the jewelry i don't need the tattoos because this is my life you're gonna hear the music and know it's real but the the game doesn't work like that and then i had to understand oh i'm a visual artist too music videos are insane yeah music video yeah cause i'm i'm looking at the music and i'm like damn my like um i don't look like hot sound type and so you know i just i was always tatted but i just started giving a and getting more yeah then putting some jewels on so that that's came more recently after she was booming but i'd say like 2016 i did the bt cipher and i got in there the most independent way you could ever get in there like everybody was signed or came through pr i used to show up at the bt cypher every year 2014 2015 2016 because i knew a cameraman and they would tell me the location of this little studio in brooklyn so i'd slip in the door and then i just tell people yo if y'all need to um if you need an extra uh extra wrapper room here like i i'm telling you i'll flame it did that in 2014 sat for three days nothing 2015 is when kendrick said the um the line about i'm the king of new york or whatever right and asap mob was there and i remember asap mob looking at kendrick and being like yo we got smoke right like clowning and like but it was like weird little tension right i was there for that sat for those three days 2016 i came and um i'm ready to do the process over again i'm there i'm telling people yo i got bars i'm telling you so finally they tell me yo somebody didn't show up you might have a chance i'm gonna show your link i'm gonna show your link to uh to jessie collins jesse collins is like the big dog at bet it's jesse collins yomi and this other lady and i forget her name but she's my angel um and so my men showed the my links to them and i'm watching them like from across the room and because they're deciding my fate if i rap on the pt cipher or not which is like the biggest thing as an emcee yeah and so he's like you might want to go over there and just try to extra convince him type and so i ended up uh i walked over there and i'm like yeah you know i started giving him my pitch and jesse collins was just like man rap man oh everybody's around it's like a hundred people this is at lunch break in like the cafeteria i just started rapping they weren't even looking at me for like the first four to eight bars on the eighth bar he kind of looked up that 12th bar now they all looking at me 16th bar now they're giving me a little this i ended the they were like um we'll huddle up about it right i go back to the table and talk it's like the catering people i'm like did my i could steal my you know i mean i'm hyped then i'm waiting waiting like 45 minutes later the lady i want to say her name is michelle she's my angel i love her to death she came over and she was like hey come here walked over to her and she's like you're in it we're going to put you in it might put me in what decipher she's like yeah we got to sign your paperwork i don't know if you could wear that nba jersey i had like a celtics jersey on and like i don't give a go shirtless like don't matter but um and like long story short i got in it and i ended up leading off the bt cipher so when the aired i let it off wow and then charlemagne and envy said i had the best freestyle wow you feel me so that was like a pivotal moment for me showing whatever i put my mind to i could do it it's kind of like no jumper like i knew like i would be here one day i just put my mind to it and it happened at the right time like maybe it wasn't time for me in 2014-15 but in 2016 i cracked that cypher and that's when i said oh i could get recognition for bars because at the time it was like a lot of like like artsy type rappers and and i feel like rap wasn't like in the forefront like that but then once i realized i could get recognition for boss because labels on me my whole life like still to this day like i get like one-off bags and like now it's like i can force certain independent labels to give me money because i have accolades and and i have a following but i always have been on and um i realized after the bt cipher with social media like oh i could just run my following up off of rapping and that's what changed everything really in like so the moment that i felt like really made me say oh no i can make it in rap was 2016 the bc cipher but then i kept learning myself learning myself and then 2018 that's when i took like my destiny into my own hands and i started just like putting out freestyles and along that time i linked with kiss and now we're here that beats his story that's gotta be one of the best stories i ever heard on this podcast in terms of like representing that like never give up mentality that you really really need if you want to make it not just as a rapper but in our breath i wrapped with my voice cracking the whole time really yeah i'm nervous i'm nervous as it's mad people in here it's artist bro i was there i'm there with everybody i was there while russ was pacing back and forth remembering his raps young man everybody's dead hey boogie and them is right there at the table my voice is cracking and but you gotta go for your man that no that's hard that's fire man that's that's crazy that that actually worked out because if somebody if somebody were to tell me that they were planning on doing that i would probably be like bro that's a crazy ass idea that ain't gonna work nobody got paid attention to you at the bt cipher when there's all like verified rappers everyone's what's it gonna take for somebody to pay attention to you in that environment that's tough yeah that's amazing everyone yeah man so that's like really like i grinded from the bottom with this bro i really i really i gotta ain't gonna say i got a million of those stories but i really grind it from the bottom with this and there's never been a handout in this if anything it's the opposite well cause i watched the like an interview that you did with rosenberg like a few years ago and you were saying you're like you know i'm the type of person like i'll go to a show that i know you're hosting just so that i can meet you say hi shake your hand and then i'll probably just be out of the show like i'll pull up just to try to meet and just make any kind of connection i did that the whole new york cause so like i said i moved to new york i moved to the bronx roach infested apartment eleven hundred dollars a month i was taking the china bus back and forth fifteen dollars like i was really getting it out live because i stopped hustling because i had to take a step back for music just to purely focus on it but the was crushing my ego i was taking the train i had to learn the new york train system and i had met kiss around this time yeah how'd you meet him i met him through set free so seth freeze who really got me set free owns the compound and he created n1 mixtapes oh wow he created all of that that's his vision set free paired magnum condoms with xxl he's like an ill marketing dude and but he had heard me off of some like world star that i was on and uh he convinced me to move to new york but i moved down there but i still found myself like having to create my own network and like that but i would i would have nothing to do i'd be in the house and i'd be like damn i gotta take the train so if after after kiss after set free introduced me to kiss we did a song i paid him for a feature but then i wanted to like keep growing the relationship so i would see kiss get posted on like like uh like luck this is when lust and starlets is popping like boom and like bernice burgos is that star pull up so that you could just be somebody that he was getting used to i wouldn't even pull up i would walk up from the train you know what i mean i would take the train and walk a mile i feel like i would take the train get confused miss stops and get off in a story or wherever it was at and walk a mile and get into the club and i'd be the only white boy in there just me and my knife and a stripper i knew and i remember one time i walked to uh to around where um the vip section was and i'm talking to the stripper i know and she taps me and she's like yo in vip he's calling you and it was kiss and he was on the couch like yo come in so i'm like yeah yo come in so i'm like hi i'm out of here and i walk to the uh to the vip section and uh the bouncer tried to shut me down and kiss stood up on the couch and he was like hey yo let him in what's wrong with you i look at everybody like the is wrong with y'all i'm in here you gotta play in you got to live up to it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah who i am stupid and then like years later like but i did that a lot with whoever like i haven't been in like lust to like meet like mano and like that he might have not knew but i was connected when i went out to new york because i met like some some good people some street guys like off rip like shout out to the 50 50 movement you know what i mean and and a lot of people um in the city so i was making my rounds and but yeah i'd pull up on whoever however whenever because i just had to make that network bro was all in like i only had negativity waiting for me at home so it was like all right i'm out here what am i going to do i got to do some hip hop so i'd pull up on like a rosenberg and he'd be like oh yeah what up and then like forget who i am a million times if you do that a couple times yeah you're gonna start remembering yeah you gotta pull up in the physical that's why i don't even when people wanna get next to i just like when people wanna get with me and trying to hit me on the phone bro just get with me figure it out get with me but um yeah bro i got that type of hustle yeah no i think that that's like the most important thing i could imagine in terms of artists being willing to make it because you know now everybody wants to just do some online to get a name for themselves you know like they think that they're just gonna like do on instagram until people recognize them and they don't realize that if being around people and having people actually with you and think you're cool and interaction that's gonna take you so far hell yeah hell yeah but i mean i feel like you could still blow on the internet yeah but yeah that human interaction to take you further definitely that's dope though that you kind of realized that rapping well was gonna help you gain a real following yeah i saw the reaction to it like i think um i did a freestyle and kiss posted it and that got a hundred thousand or two hundred thousand views on instagram and at the time i'm like yo that's crazy and then uh and then flex we did flex off of that like flex saw that and then i got to do flex and then flex took it to another level and i said oh this rapping is how i'm gonna cultivate my fans cause i'm a way bigger artist than just like a high level rapper high level rap i'm very prideful about that i do that i could do it with the best of them i'm on jadakiss's album like me as a 16. you feel me and he's the best so it's like i'm very proud of that but i'm way bigger than just like a high level rapper like i make music i sing i make pain my is i can make records for the club my biggest records are over trap like just as far as like streaming wise so but i learned that like the high level rap that's what's going to attract people to me right and that's how i could do it because the labels don't give me nothing like this i don't have no external push right and i didn't have no money this whole time yeah no money the whole 10 years like if i'm being honest the whole ten years i never had more than four thousand dollars because everything i had i may have made it look good but everything i had i put it back out i never had more than four thousand dollars i got fifteen thousand dollars on me now casual hmm that's real but people don't know how to just you know what i mean i'm only saying that because people don't know how to just struggle for this dream for a second like everybody want to be super lit off top yeah wait yeah just saying how it goes um but how do you actually get signed by kiss like how did that become a conversation and were you the first artist he ever signed not nino man okay nino man you heard a nino man no fire really okay how are you new york fire from harlem okay he was on stage at the verses okay yeah so how's this conversation start playing out about you working with him on that level so um ice pick jay who was like that's kisses big homie like kiss named his last album ignatius that's after ice pick jay right okay yeah i remember him talking about that so ice pick j actually ice pick jay heard me on a singing record and he just told free yo play me another one of his singing shits playing another one of his singing shits and then he was like yo that's he he's it he's he's really him and he took me to kiss and was like yo what do you think about millie's like i guess all right listen i mean one of those so and that's how yeah that's how that went so it really went through ice pick j type and then but i was already i was already like kind of like family with kiss but then he really threw the co-sign on me right yeah that's one thing that it's kind of crazy like you seem like you've just really formed a lot of like very real relationships with a bunch of respected dudes because i'm watching this interview with you and dave east and it's like i'm kind of thinking in my head like i don't know if i've ever seen like a a popular black rapper co-signing a white rapper this hard like this like where you guys are really like friends and talking about going on trips together and and that's my dog i'm like damn like i mean you really have like made a amazing impression on a lot of the more powerful or respected people in the game bro i'm like legendary bro you kind of aren't i'm telling you like if you really the truth is far more sinister when i tell people like if you really know from the outside it might look i get it because there's no the only narrative people in america only want the narrative that they know they want the that confirms what they already think like that's what they search for they they don't want the truth they want whatever confirms their narrative that they already believe in and there's no narrative about white boys hustling or doing anything in the streets even though there's like a movie like the town and that's white boys doing straight hip-hop but it's not hip-hop the the closest we have is tommy egan on power okay you watch that show do you know who tommy is no i talk about him all the time in my songs because i got a bar i said i watch power and i overwhelmingly relate to tommy because that's the only depiction of a tough white boy that interacts in a in a world a hip-hop world or whatever you want to call it you know what i mean so people can't understand this because there's no point of reference for it i'm the first right and in boston even even if it was just that it's like people aren't used to seeing rappers come up out of boston cambridge though bro we gotta say mass this is what i do though because i'm not gonna lie like i love boston i'm born there i went to school there i have influence there but i'm from cambridge is a different city like and massachusetts as a whole is like a different play to me and that's what i want to push as far as like the movement because when i think of mass and and the lit i think of like you know we got lawrence lynn worcester springfield lowell like we have these thorough thorough communities and are getting a lot of money and you know what i mean it's all on brandon you want to stand for yeah i want to stand for mass i got mass tatted on my head so it's like yeah massachusetts that's the movement because boston has such a big brand on it already when you think boston you think racist celtics fans right and massachusetts doesn't come with that connotation so i'm not you know i'm from mass bro right because what are they doing uh virginia like when you meet someone from virginia from mississippi from alabama they don't go yo i'm from birmingham they you know i'm from alabama so we got to just run with it like that because the brand it's kind of like the brand of cambridge that's harvard so harvard is telling you they're putting billions of dollars over the years into their pr campaigns to get people to come but they don't ever have the time to say oh yeah there's also 14 housing projects in the city of cambridge right and people are living below the poverty line so the brand of cambridge will forever be that can't change the brand of boston will forever be that no matter what happens every time a player gets traded to the celtics they put the kkk memes in the so it's like that's that's the thing now that could possibly be broken but i feel like we got to come with it as the mass movement because mass got a lot of talent right and then even break it down within boston to the dorchesters and the roxbury's and the matter fans make people really understand this because boston has been pushed as a brand that it's just white boys and faneuil hall but that's a false narrative or that it's just south boston and like that right did you because that is kind of part of the reputation of people from boston cambridge et cetera that there's a lot of racism there you grow up around a lot of that and at some point have to like you know unlearn that or realize that you grew up with some up ideas no so i'm from cambridge right that's like the most liberal city right on the planet that's true so like when i'm five going on play dates with my friends like my mother never said oh yeah by the way these are some black kids you're about to go see i didn't know i really didn't get the the whole race thing until later on when other kids from like other schools like if we had like i probably did some sort of basketball leagues and people you talk like you black like like that like i didn't really get that but yeah i never i never came up with that but yeah like um there was a racist part of cambridge right there was a that was definitely a racist part of capers east cambridge right they they um they were they was on that race and like sometimes they would like um dudes would drive by like and people gonna be mad but suck my dick people would drive by um and and uh and be like n-word lover like that like they would see me in the park yeah i get the n-word level like that clash with them i didn't know i'm like bro i'm just here it's the same way i feel when people diss me on the internet and go you want to be back i'm just here with the i grew up with bro what do you want me to do man right yeah i can't help what i'm into i can't help you yo isn't there some like like like if you raise a baby with wolves it's going to think it's a dog some like that [Music] you used to say n word never never you know why i'm gonna lie like probably like in like like fifth grade probably like i was with my man yes and i i try to fake experiment with it over a song like the song lyrics was playing and he just checked me like even though i'm just rapping my favorite lyrics and he was like yo i'm saying that that's my man like and i'm like the fact that he checked me and he's the most laid-back person in the world and so i learned to even edit it out of songs that i like you know what i mean because there's a lot of white kids who grow up around a bunch of you know i know hood white kids though they say that and they let that fly and they think it's totally fine but then they start to get some degree of notoriety and all of a sudden it's like oh the rest of the world doesn't care about these five black dudes who are cool with me saying it yeah yeah yeah but that's what i i realized from that i said damn if my bro will check me on that that means i'm gonna have confrontations and i was already having confrontations because i didn't look tough like i just like like you know there's some white boys that look tough like russians and like i just didn't have the tough look like a blonde hair blue eyes people was already setting up setting it on me for no reason i had to fight a lot and i'm like all right i'm not going to make the i'm not going to make it more fights for myself because i want to uh because i'm trying to say this word so i dated that at like 10 years old and i decided i'm not even saying that in the capacity of of rap lyrics you know what i mean yeah no yeah yeah i would feel uncomfortable even saying it by myself in the car so definitely standing around like other humans would probably be really weird yeah not effects definitely yeah it's crazy how much like like you in the old interview i see to you you definitely like just gave off way less of like a tough confident vibe but it's it's so interesting to see how somebody could just through having more and more life experience just sort of like gain more of that demeanor of like confidence that you sort of project now that's good um also yeah did you lose can i smoke the cigarette of course you got another one somebody got a lighter yeah another one what is that newport yeah looks like you had it behind your ear for a while you got another one this is yo you came here with a single newport you got now we got them in we got them in the car all right that's cool we'll get you one i'll get one out there let's make adam a new player what are we doing here you have one song where you uh i just heard you say something about like i dedicated my whole life to this and i still ain't made it and i'm just listening to my yeah what do you think i'm doing here i appreciate you bro no no doubt i just thought she was gonna be like a little like just look for something in the interview yeah yeah now i do as much digging as i can schedule can be tight sometimes i forget what song that was but yeah it was like you walking up the stairs as you said that but i was just really thinking about that and i'm like there must have been so many moments of like pure frustration that you have to get past when you feel like i've just given so much of myself and like you know you're in so much more of a better place now than you were five years ago four years ago three years ago but you still have to fight against that feeling every day bro and i gotta fight rejection bro i still face that like i faced a lot of rejection just in my life in general [Music] a lot of rejection i feel like i went through more rejection than the average human goes through in their whole lifetime in like a year of my life easy really easy easy because i put myself out there [Music] so yeah you can just fight through that you just have to get used to it that's a big part of it you have to get used to 100 people saying no just for one person to say yes yeah 100 percent but uh what are you like have there been moments that were like really hard for you to just keep going and in terms of chasing this path like was there ever moments right like it i'm gonna work at the mall i can't do it like or i'm gonna go back to the streets i'm just totally freaking i was gonna trap because honestly like even when i my mother made me get jobs and when i got jobs like i had to like quit one because i got shot at and they found out about it it was a city job that i had got through like a job program got shot at while on the job nah it was at my house but they got fired because of that they they it was through like the city so they was like yeah you got going on like oh wow so i didn't return to work after that and then i had another job and dudes ran down on me like it was it was in a it was in like an opposition neighborhood like i would go i would i would work jobs just to make my mom happy and i would put my life at risk like i'd have to go to work with the pistol on me just so i could be like look mom working right so like when you build up a certain level of baggage in the streets you can't go to work no more that's the up with like the young kids running around drilling like if you ever want to square up it's hard because dudes don't want to let a lot of go you know what i mean so um but yeah i never i never thought about like quitting and like working at the mall but i definitely quit quit and get a brick yeah i i was i was confused at one point in um 2011 i had a release party for rome for my album and uh my man rock ducati was there and that was like another one of my big homies and he had kind of i met him like a couple years prior but he just believed in me with music so he just he really put a battery in my back like musically and and rock was at my party and like we had like one of the greatest nights ever and as i walked um we walked outside from the club and uh it was like you know a lot of shots went off and and he passed that night so like that was like an extreme high from music where it's like i'm doing this positive and then walking out the club all of that ended you know what i mean and it was like one of my lowest lows type so that kind of made me like i don't know exactly what i always associated music with something positive but this was the first time that i had doubt because i'm like then how could something so positive essentially bring something so negative so i would say i don't know if i if i felt like quitting around that time i tried to start experimenting with more like different types of music and not like i mean rap you know what i mean but i was like let me just try to make this mainstream white boy music so i could get rich and get my homies out of the hood and like that's that's where my mind was like i was just kind of thrown on but then you know what i mean i shook back but yeah i would say that was probably one of the rougher times and then yeah i don't know i've had moments where i'd be like this um but i get frustrated because at certain points it's like i'm just putting money into this and not really getting that much back yeah yeah yeah and and it's crazy when you know you're better than dudes like i know i'm making better songs and dudes and i know and i always had a core fan base i always had people who told me yo your music makes me uh made me not commit suicide like i always had that your music helped me through the toughest time in my life i always had that always super core fan base so i knew like the caliber of my music but it's just frustrating like damn i can't crack like they don't people the industry don't even believe in this because they've never seen it and it's a cookie cutter industry they don't know how to work this that's what i would get told like they they don't know how to work me mm-hmm you know what i mean so i work my self and i'm independent yeah you thought about signing or is it just never really not failing not now yeah hell yeah i would i would have probably signed for twenty thousand dollars at one point just to say i signed not now ever definitely do you feel like getting that uh product let me not say ever because you know that bag right but do you think did the the kiss thing mean a lot to you like look at this like a absolute without question legend in hip-hop believes in me enough to get behind me like that i mean that that's a big cosigner that that feeling you made it to a certain extent because like what can you really tell me if you're just like some guy on the block in in cambridge what the can you tell me jadakiss signed me like jadakiss believes in me so what the does your opinion possibly mean to me right i mean there's there had to be a bit of that right yeah there's definitely big validation points like through the course of this i just wanted it to be validated in money at one point this year i started getting 10 15 bands for the feature ding ding ding ding ding ding ding and then i said i'm validated like by the money right you know as far as like so like in dirt within the art form i always felt like yeah i'm doing great but i never felt like i could say like yo i made it you know what i'm saying i caught i caught two checks this year like i got i got the blanco um i did the album with easton i got the the blanco full project so it's like this year everything it felt like all the hard work over 10 11 years it got paid back this year right in full yeah what would you do to celebrate if anything you buy yourself anything or you go out don't really celebrate bro i'm like work oriented the only way i could celebrate is in like a work capacity like i went i was like if i go down to like atlanta and like around in a strip club or something like but it's still the work capacity because they're playing my records but i don't celebrate like definitely i went to tulum i went to tulum three times this year so this wow three times in a year huh yeah so that's i guess a little celebration i went there like immediately before the pandemic hit for real yeah it was like the last thing we did before the pandemic took over i actually know it was new year so it was like a month or two before but tulum is amazing i can't complain i know it's supposed to be like kind of blown out and trendy at this point but um it's just it's amazing and it's not that far away they don't hear us talk about tulum uh i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you've probably seen a gigantic percentage of the people that you went to high school with dead off fentanyl and heroin over the past however many years does that sometimes i think about that and that makes me feel like a little bit more kind of shocked that i made it to the point that i made it to when i think about how bad the situation has been for a shitload of the people that i grew up around and i'm sure it's not even just that i mean you've seen a million people get shot and all kinds of other terror and that and those are people who are dead i mean there's a lot of people who are alive that yeah it's nasty kind of probably just as bad uh do you ever think about that or like just the carnage where you grew up yeah it's crazy i i really saw it more like in like the um like when i was growing up them those like how could i say it when i was growing up i'd be around a certain caliber of these white boys who were tough like tougher than any white boy on the planet [Music] like real like the kids i went to school with like from southie like from old colony projects and like that like real tough white boys from the projects and i remember i remember seeing one one of them like in my um in my senior year and he came in and i hadn't seen him for a while but he was weak he was a little blue in the face and he asked me to open a now and later for him he physically couldn't open it now later and this is somebody i know for being super charismatic for being super charismatic strong talk all the time and for him to humble himself down to ask me somebody talk to all the time like ingest you know what i mean but to ask me to open a now and later for him that's the first time i said oh them drugs are all bad and now i see a lot of that like i see a lot of um like tough white boys that's gone but all cultures though you know what i'm saying all cultures but i really seen that hit hard and like you know boston and and the surrounding areas so yeah that's nasty that that that's when it'll really hit you when there's a dude that you think of as like a hard dude who you know you're intimidated by or whatever and then at a certain point you're just like oh damn you're a junkie now like you really like on this like i don't know that's that's when you sort of realize like damn this could happen to anybody because when you're young you look at crackheads or people who are off heroin and and you're like you can't you know for me at least it was hard to understand how a normal person got to that point it feels like these people just were always like that and once you really start seeing it happen to like your peers they'll change your whole viewpoint yeah no that's a fact it's nasty um what's it like style wise you know if it feels like you have you know you have like this sort of like lyrical style that you that you are sort of committed to but then i do see you like jumping around and doing stuff like doing drill type records with social geek and yeah yeah does that feel like is that a primarily like different experience making that kind of song but also when i'm listening to that i'm like sounds good i was clicking on it yeah i was clicking on it here i was like oh my god is he gonna be doing a goofy ass drill flow and then i feel like i know you stayed true to yourself whatever i do i put the high level rap element in there but i'm telling you wow versatile bro i could do any type of music so like that was i just i i wanted to get salsa because i had already knew sopesa before big trip i fell in love with the lit sosa i knew him yeah i knew him so when i wanted to do some drill i'm like i gotta call somebody from brooklyn and i know they do it you know what i mean um but i could i could i could get off on anything bro you hear my with asian dog i did because i was wondering why is asian doll in this jim jones video uh that you had and yeah i'm like oh there's another video where you live with her all that how did you meet her i met her i've met her and uh i met her in atlanta and we were in like a strip club and we left and we were going to go to another spot i was uh she was with somebody i know or whatever so we were all going to go to the other spot i had the rolls royce cullen and with the stars of the truck we all get in the car or whatever and then shots start going off machine gun fire it's like in the background and but my man taps on the window and she's like yo millies get out the car get down get down i'm kind of drunk i'm like man that's just far away bro we good bro get the down so i get out the car i go to get down and but before i like look over in the passenger seat and like asian dollars like in in the what's the called the mirror right here she's in there she's in the mirror like doing her makeup or fixing her lip gloss and the shots are going off it's just normal for her i swear to god i said oh she's a real thug she's looking in the mirror she's doing her makeup or her lip gloss or something super unfazed and it's like she's just doing her i'm like yo come on get low and then the shots stopped and i got back in the car i'm like yo you crazy she's like no they just shooting for nothing like that we went to the after i was spotted i mean what was cool you uh you learn a lot about people when you when there's like pressure situations just gun shots in general because like i've been in that situation where there's like a shooting outside this like uh you know store party type thing and they start shooting but they're shooting on the sidewalk outside they're not shooting into the store they're shooting at each other out there but everybody starts diving i i dive too because i'm not even thinking i'm not really been around this many shootouts so i dive to the side too and then i look up and i see some dudes i know and they're just like standing up you know looking over trying to see what's going on and i'm like figure it out i'm like that is a more reasonable response because it it wasn't like people were shooting into the store you got to know if you've been around gunfire you know where that's just coming from to a little bit like yeah you can still get hit on some stray but i feel like you're going to know how far that is away from you a little bit right to overreact or not overreact i just be feeling protected by god too like yeah i don't really bug out that's good what uh do you have a relationship with jim jones or how did that one come about because i feel like that's one of the hardest records and that's the one we saw in stream which i think is how i first seen you yeah hell yeah that was a hard jim jones verse too even when you saw it on stream uh the streams that we do on fridays where we listen to people's music they played it yeah we played it that's hard yeah that actually really made me want to go listen to the last couple jim jones records or like he's fired no jones one of my favorite john's one of my favorite like just some just coming up i always like jones's like lyrical ability before people were saying he's lyrical like i always i always liked his flow patterns and just so that was dope to get on it was just very well and honestly because i used to listen to a lot of them in like 2003 2004 i feel like he's way better now now he's but he's getting better yeah i love his old music though but yeah he's getting better now like just on some like high level rap city's getting better yeah yeah facts but uh that uh we put that together i just bumped into him a lot we put that together and then we shot the video on harlem that was dope asian dog was out there right dee from rough riders was out there like that for sure what about the g herbal thing where'd that come from herbo herbo posted my um my bars on 95 freestyle but i went on tour with herbal in 2016. oh wow on the smoker's club tour oh so i had known him a little bit shout out johnny shipes yeah shout out johnny scythe that's the hardest white boy in the game actually no and then uh i met him so i i used to open for him on that tour for probably like four or five dates or some but then like recently i think kiss had posted my bars on nine five freestyle and her boat just out of the cut just took my and people started hitting me like yo you see herbert reposted this and he put something like i love rap bro i love he was hype off the he was like i love rap and he was tagging me and and i was like word is lit and i just knew like ah he gonna do a feature for me i hit him up and he did it and he kept it super solid even like even just now when we just dropped the i hit him and i'm like cuz yo he don't i don't expect nothing from nobody i don't expect nothing from you nobody because it's like you're no one owes you nothing in life you know what i mean so i hit him and i was like yeah i'm about to drop it at 12 30. he hit me back like p.m eastern time type i'm like yeah i sent him the clip and he threw the right up with me that got like a million on his grim and that record's going crazy that's my fastest moving video it's had a quarter million yeah it's at 500 000 in like six days so wow hell yeah shout out horrible and he's just good for the culture in general like because the kids like him he's tied to like the whole juice world and all of that so he gets all of that audience and then he shows them y'all know what's cool rapping rapping being able to rap so more kids are going to grow up being herbal fans and then i told him this like he's going to influence like a generation like below him to actually want to rap he's one of the best yeah he's incredible super influential on that oh yeah all these like kids or fans like drill music and like that i feel like they look at herbo as like a gog like he's he's somebody who transcended that and came up with his own style that's still in that but he's got his own and he's still young and he goes like even on that record like he know i'm saying crazy on that record i said double up my dollars must acknowledge i'm an 8 series swerver the 40 turned them to a vegetable that's basically murder like i'm i got bars in there like flex style bars and he's gone like he everybody i lock in with though that's one thing i can say nobody plays with me on the features like everybody goes for the juggalo party i really want to look bad yeah like everybody's gonna rap when they get all my songs penny gave me one of the craziest benny versus ever you know what i mean so yeah definitely ah yeah so what are you uh planning at this point what's what's up next done a lot but i know you still got a lot more ground you want to cover yeah i plan to um i just i just want to get to a um position where like i could put other artists on i want to be able to uh i want to be able to start my own label and really like pull up some artists from massachusetts and come through with a wave of artists i want to pop on a high level and then and then bring some artists behind me and you know what i mean that's actually what like we never talked about it but like when i had like when i was running around with shoddy shoddy would always tell me like yo bro massachusetts is it bro it's untapped bro you could really you could be the one to pull everybody up he kind of put that battery in my back to be like uh yeah i could do that like and so that's one of the goals i got you know i mean how did you meet shawty i met shot again on in in a clothing store in manhattan and he had like seen me on the internet or some and he was like yo we got the video tonight with uh 50 cent to get the strap he was like pull up that's the video they say got shot up or whatever you're at that yeah yeah oh that's great yeah wow so like i pulled up on him and then we were just cool ever since after that wow that's like today yeah you know shoddy dm me like a week before the fed case oh always i always kind of regret that i didn't get that interviewing yeah i talked to you two hours before yeah it'd be hell yeah stand up guy he could look himself in the mirror yeah that's facts um but okay you got anything in particular that you want the people to look out for anything uh that you're excited for when's this interview dropping by next week so like after the 20th around then maybe a little before then or a little after blanco four man blanco cuatro featuring herbo benny the butcher jada kiss asian dog daughter the dealer why drizzle 8-zip jazzy armor all produced by ray beats shout out my video guy teens we're going crazy man great body of work and i'm gonna just keep dropping and dropping and dropping and dropping i like that you're so motivated to be you know to really do it for massachusetts you have to roll it's like super untapped yeah and it's like you know i think it's honestly kind of like the way that sosa came out and just completely like changed the way that people thought of chicago boston only needs one person to blow up out of there to really motivate the whole though that's another thing joanna lucas is from mass this is a good point joining is from mass middle east is from mass see what i'm saying and then there's a slew of other artists adam 22 is from five minutes across he's from new hampshire kid gate city ah you come to the feza lane mall when you don't want to pay taxes on your tv yeah that's the money cyber crime mall sounds crazy kingsborough movie theater right there that's that's how you sneak in through the back national new hampshire most populated city in america without a movie theater everybody goes right to tyngsboro and hits it's right over the border talk your things borrow very important let the people know that's real hell yeah anybody want to shout out anyone uh you want to man i really want to shout out all the artists in mass because there's a big platform but then i'm gonna miss people and they're gonna get mad but yo it's a big scene out there going crazy crazy crazy you ever tap in with 1090 jake yes my boy i hit 1090 jake when you said there's no popular white rabbis i said and you said 1090 jake should be a rapper i hit him and i said bro it's saying that you should be a rapper and i exist this is crazy i've seen you put that on a story that's funny you said that yeah and he was like yeah bro i don't even rap i don't know why they said that you know what i mean but um yeah i told him they hit you i told because i know i know i know my guy over there hit you but i was like i gotta double down with adam i got i need this interview man no as soon as i started checking the out i was like all right i gotta i gotta get behind this where appreciate you bro the show man millie's spat like 617. appreciate you man i'm gonna take you up on that newport too by the way let's get it millies no jumper coolest podcast in the world check us out on youtube check us out on patreon the patrons on the screen right now like comment subscribe no jumper.com if you want to support and subscribe to my youtube channel too sub to his channel you probably already subscribed to this one you've been here for a while go hit his up yeah spotify all that like that buy a t-shirt appreciate man salute bro

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Length: 74min 52sec (4492 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 17 2021