THE LIMB REAPER LIVES!!! Rebuilding and restoring a custom built Stihl MS200t by John's Custom Saws

all right so the saw is ported we're all poured and polished so now what are you doing here john we are going to go a little step further on this one kind of a custom saw so we're going to split the crankcase check everything out and then powder coat it 200 t's you do not need a crankcase splitting tool which is really nice they pretty much always come apart relatively easily and if you're ever tapping on one of these use the use a tool but it just needs a little bit of a little wrap and it should come apart there we go like i said with this little thing that you invented that's the yes i didn't invent it basically i just copied it so the flywheel puller tool is basically a thread-on punch okay and that is the proper tool just so not you know people aren't thinking that i'm using some crude method to split it that's the actual tool from steel just a thread on punch so that's what the inside of the crank case looks like and then this is the part i was telling you about jacob the you always see this little i call it a stuffer and it's basically a blocker that takes off some of your bar oil tank and i've never seen the need for it and uh if you buy a new crankcase that does not come in it so i've always just taken them out i've never seen why it really needs to be in there um and if you look you know where it is like this it's blocking off the bottom section you know so your your line is going to come in and only go down so far i'm thinking maybe that's the reasoning but i think it's just beneficial to take it out okay why not be able to carry more oil if you can and you want to make sure you have your keyway removed when you do this so we already got that out and there we go that's as easy as it gets when you when it comes to splitting crankcases and these are the bearings they do not have an inner collar race on them and that's why the case comes apart so easily and a normal bearing would have the the same steel collar that's on the outside there'd be one on the inside and that's what really gets tough to split some of these cases basically checking both sides point four seven four six eight point four yeah we're basically right there if you you can you can feel it as well if you have uh wear usually it's going to be a bad bearing to start with but you'll feel a divot otherwise you'll be off quite a ways between the two and that little build up there that's just uh that's pretty normal this is actually in really good shape as far as bearings and and crankshaft go there are a few parts on this this might be beneficial for so many people that aren't going to powder coat when you do powder coat everything has to come out uh the the vent for the bar oil tank i even take the the stud out or the you know the bar bearings seals obviously got to come out we're going to bake this thing at like 400 degrees and you can't have any of that stuff in there it's going to melt the powder coat stays really well it's more of a professional durable finish spray paint uh you know i've tried it all if you guys have followed my instagram it the spray paint looks great for about a day and it comes off chainsaws live a tough life there's nothing you can do about it you can be the best in the world at spray painting it's only gonna last so long it's just the way it is all right so we are going to pull it just doesn't matter where you start i guess but it's all got to come out anything that can possibly melt the bearings and seals obviously are going to come out that the vent believe it or not that that can't go in the oven yeah you'd think that you know being all metal would be okay but you do want to take that out as well and that comes out with a punch that's the only way it comes out so yeah punch it does go out from the inside out that's how the vent goes out just like that got to be aggressive with it otherwise a lot of this stuff won't come out the seals you are going to destroy taking the seals out there's no other way around it and they are going to go bye-bye and these seals are if anybody knows the 200 t these seals are a problem always have been and sometimes when you take them off you'll see a lot of grit in these bearings these bearings are going to get replaced but uh they're not the best they're not the worst we will replace them if you're into it this far you're crazy not to replace the bearings and seals i mean yeah usually that's what happens is they snap apart but they're a one-time use obviously you're not you're not reusing bearings i might not sound like an expert on this but i have never been able to get one of these out without wrecking it i have no idea how they come out to be honest so what i do is i just get i bust the material out around it then i can get a hold of it isn't it i don't even get what it's for though it's just like this i asked her for this plastic yeah that's my steel wrapper he's like what what are you talking about like yeah there's a little freaking plug-in secret room in there right it's your oil splash spot one thing you do got to be you don't ever want to pry on any of this you know what i mean yeah like none of this that's where your your your case seals up so you do got to be careful with it just grind it off [Music] super easy no problem just a special tool really uh professional way of taking it out and then for some reason like they always are you you can't even get a new one which i have never seen one i don't even know what they would look like but they're always basically uh super hard but yeah that's what's in there a lot of people don't even know that things in there what the heck i have no idea what it's for or why you would put it in there why you'd never want to put it back yeah but because when they send you a new crankcase it's not in there and they come with the bar stud the the vent they come with everything but they don't come with that it's almost like it's designed to limit the quantity of bar oil like to keep the weight down i wonder i don't know maybe some admissions reason or something yeah i know it's like yeah that's what it makes sense and it's always a pain yeah look at all that room in there now right that's why i've never had somebody say yeah put it back in there weird yeah secret room secret room the whole moral of the story is you cannot powder coat it with that in there it melts and starts on fire now we are down to the bearings and the bearings do pound out as well with a 14 millimeter lead is what i used that's why you always want to use wood so there's these two little basically they uh insert they're like i don't know what you call them spacers guides they go into these two holes here to center up your crankcase so you want to do it on wood if you pounded on metal on those you could fold them over and uh but you need the somewhat of a hard surface though is what i'm trying to say because without a hard surface like if you put this on a piece of rubber or something you'd be banging away at it forever the hardest hardest surface better but not anything harder than the aluminum is my theory this is my saw now we've just got to pull the bar stud this is just a stud puller so it's designed to work without wrecking the threads it just grabs onto it and the reason for that is powder coat it has a pretty good thickness to it so you don't want to powder coat stuff without uh you know if you got powder coat on it basically you're gonna have to clean it up and it the powder coat is so strong it's hard to get off even with like a wire wheel it's hard to get off then we are good basically we're going to clean this up a little bit put bolts back in i have the old bolts that i put back in and that way you don't get powder coat down in the threads and then you just keep reusing them if you do a lot this kind of like the same stuff that we used for cleaning the parts this brand gunk or whatever this stuff is is really good stuff and uh when you powder coat you want to try to get all of the oil that even gets inside the metal that you got to get that all out otherwise you'll see it when you when you powder coat it'll like show up through the paint basically the powder coating okay man this is going to end of the second day this is a lot of work man so the crank case is clean and what are we doing are we getting ready to start cooking yeah we're having some spaghetti my man no we're gonna we're gonna dye some plastics and this is something that uh i used to get done you know basically i outsourced it now i do it myself i only do one color because it's only color you can't screw up black so uh we're gonna do black and orange for jacob though just because uh he's a good guy so this method is basically the recipe for the dye bath maybe you could put this in the description i guess but it's it's one cup of acetone which is basically fingernail polish remover the purest acetone i guess you can get the better and i use rit dye i use one synthetic graphite and then one all-purpose black and they go in the pot that's for the black if you're going to die of plastics black you can dye orange plastics like the covers on a 661 461 or you can dye the white plastics black any other color it gets tricky with the orange plastics but the white plastics you can basically get uh whatever color you want and you're gonna also put in the dye bath about two tablespoons of dawn dish soap and one cup of vinegar and a quarter cup of salt so we'll have to write that in the description so you guys remember that but you're going to pre-heat these in hot water as hot as you can get this water with with soap so it's basically hot soapy water and once they're clean they have to be brand new plastics it's going to give you the best result then you want this dye bath boiling hot as hot as you can get it and you drop them right in there you don't want to drop too many parts in at a time like on the 200 there's the fuel tank we will do that separately but all these little parts can go in there and then we're going to do the bumper spikes these little clamps anything that will look good dyed black we're going to do it a couple of last little parts and that's why it does not matter if the soap gets in the dive out because there is soap in here already so that is going to sit for about 15 minutes uh if you have the the parts preheated basically in hot water the dye takes really fast i've learned that i used to do it just out of cold soapy water took a lot longer this you'll see it'll be probably edited but it'll only be about five or ten minutes then i'll shock it in cold water after it comes out of the dye bath goes into the cold water and that kind of like it shocks it into the plastics it seals it in and then i go back to the hot water back to the dye bath i do that three times and then it will be a really deep dark black and it'll look it'll look amazing when it's done so there's another piece this is just a heat shield for the fuel tank so it's shocking and cold water shocking in cold water yes without this so you could keep the parts in this dye bath for a half hour an hour it don't really matter they only take so much dye then they got to come out and they get they get the cold water treatment and then when you put it back in then it will take more dye don't ask me why i've done so many of these plastics though that it's just uh it's just i've learned that's the way that works the best because i've left them in overnight even not in boiling water but in you know just let it cool down i've left it in the boiling dye bath for you know 45 minutes and moving it in and out of the cold water is actually faster yeah that's what yeah even five minutes in here and then into the cold water and then redoing it you'll dye the parts way faster they'll take way more color and now you're doing the other parts you cycle them through okay and uh the hot water definitely helps like this one i'm not going to just throw it in there right away i want to get it heated up a little bit get the plastics heated up and the acetone is very important without the acetone some of the plastics they die unevenly they they don't want to take the dye very well but the acetone really is some sort of chemical reaction apparently not a scientist i'm just a chainsaw guy you're a mad scientist that's how you are so that one's going to go in there and then we will get this one this is the fuel tank be careful on the fuel tanks do not do not let these sit in the boiling water too long that's why uh this is this is how i found out the hot water method the preheated is because of fuel tanks you do not want to let this thing sit in there for like 45 minutes i can it could possibly warp it um i've only had one that the fuel tank leaked after but it was a used saw if the plastics were already used i think that's a lot of what this is awesome this is all new they're all new plastics and that's what they don't look the best when you dye used plastics and just and you you took the stickers off too took the stickers absolutely yeah otherwise if you die in any color like you could dye these white plastics red i have a bunch of saws on my pages red green all these different cool colors uh it's it's not that difficult but my trick with that is you so we're going to do some orange plastic so maybe talk about it there uh yeah mix yellow and red but uh basically the orange plastics it's it's hard to get those to get any other color but black okay so this is all right so we'll just rinse wash and repeat this probably already ready that's actually really fast it is really fast yep like i said without the uh without the acetone wow it takes a long time it's delicious right and this is only the first dip so they're going to look a lot better wow look it didn't do anything to the metal right there nope it does not dye the metal one bit so we're going to put this in there while i'm getting something else don't do this in your house your wife will not be happy with you okay so the fuel tanks kind of like to float so uh there we go actually saying really good nevermind you'll think stick right down in there so we're going to take this up so you kind of got to be on top of this when you get going on it you're not going to go yeah you're really cycling around yep but i'm telling you i have guys that have done this before too that i've talked to without the without the acetone it takes a lot longer you gotta let it sit in there for like literally like a half hour and that's where i don't really like it you know plastics at like 400 some degrees is where you start to to fail and to melt and we're not anywhere near that but why why let it sit in there for a half hour or 45 minutes when you can do it literally two minutes all right we're almost done see you've done this with three this is yep this is the third the third dip i call it so get in the cold water there's any any pieces laying around in there yet see how much darker that is than when it first came out oh yeah it's really really in there wow it did if basically have to cut it out yeah it almost does look like it's factory like that permanent 100 permanent so i mean when it's when it's all together it's going to look pretty good this one's going to go in one more time but that one is even looking really good yet all right the black plastics are done black plastics are done now he's got to do the orange all right so now we're cooking a different color yes and what we're going to do with uh the orange in this die is is kind of a transparent orange so i like to mix the yellow and the red it just looks really good i've done a few of these but you got to be careful when you're mixing colors uh the best is to get a clear container and do a test patch you know you don't have to have boiling water obviously you just mix a little bit of two colors together get your get your color that you want and then you know it's like three part three parts this one part this which is basically what this is orange is basically a lot of yellow and a little bit of red so i'm gonna put about two capfuls of this you always want to start light when you're doing any color but besides black or like a really really dark color but if you dye something with a lot of blue you're gonna you're gonna turn it black as weird as that sounds and like look at that that's yellow but it looks like almost brown but that's just how this diet works you want your dye bath way lighter than the color that you're trying to get in the end because you want the dye to get into the plastics very well but if you already start getting too dark on your color you have to pull it out and then you're you're done you can't dye it anymore it's going to turn way too dark and eventually pretty much every color that you do will turn black so this is gonna be like uh not even a third of red because it's uh orange is basically a lot of yellow very little red and uh if i have to i'll dilute it or add more yellow you'll have to see once this gets cooking the black pot makes it look darker but i'll take some out of here in a clear container and i'll kind of check it out i might have to add more water to this to be honest but uh let's let it cook a little bit i do like to let the dye sit in the water and acetone you know water acetone salt and vinegar don dish soap and uh we'll let that cook a little bit kind of like a little recipe cooking a pot roast here but it's 200 tea all right so now we're doing orange we're doing orange so we had a little bit of a test batch and the color is looking good so again lighter than you want to end up can always go darker so we put that one in there that was in the water and uh just so we got a smaller burner it is nice to use the smallest container that you can obviously for you know doing these parts we're only doing one small part and then we're going to actually try the uh pull cord which i haven't done yet but we'll see the dye is actually made for cloth so oh cool we'll see what happens all right i think it's done cooking yeah this is a first for me i have not i have not done uh any starter rope but the orange apparently it works and it looks really good all the orange pieces are done yeah that is something else so uh apparently you can do ropes and i think this die is actually for fabric to be honest that's pretty cool it's really not that complicated not nearly as complicated as your porting yeah this is a lot simpler and it's basically the recipe and you could dye all kinds of stuff yeah i'll try to put the recipe in the description yeah you could die crazy actually after you do yeah things i don't want to throw more stuff in and we did all clear or or white plastics it is a lot harder with orange plastics yeah that makes similar saws and then obviously you can't dye the really darker plastics but that worked out pretty good i'm happy with it and uh all right i think we're done dying actually yeah and these little guys are gonna be your best friend when you're doing starter roll just a little yeah crooked pick i think they call it and uh yeah you can grab them things pretty easily you just do a overhand knot just an overhand knot yeah you're the knot guy what do you call this that's overhand knot yeah yeah because otherwise anything else it's called a granny knot yeah it gets too big and it won't fit down in there and then i do take a torch or lighter and then burn that end a little bit so now the rope is kind of wet so i don't know if this will work very well let's just see what it looks like i'm curious to see what it looks like when it's pulled out then you wind this i go about five times how long the piece of rope is at that's just uh these actually i think come pre-cut but i would say about two and a half three feet maybe okay and uh the elasto start ropes on the bigger saws that's gonna come pre-cut it's gonna be in a length the same thing i go five times some people go more than that but i think yeah you're putting stress on that spring so i'm getting all the way to the end there's a little tension on it you if you pull this out and you can't get to the end of the rope that's found too tight that means your spring is completely compressed you know what i mean yeah so you want to get to the end with a little bit of tension but that looks pretty rad with my vacuum with my vacuum cleaner all torn apart in the background that's really cool sweet the 200 t's everybody's that's had them for an extended period of time knows that these covers melt all the time and uh it's kind of tough getting it in here i do it in a couple layers but i've found out that if you put this heat shield tape in here it don't gotta look pretty but i'll do one like that and i'll do one back here and even run it up in here and it it keeps it from melting oh really yeah i mean it works that makes sense it works like if you see some of the the new saws come with it they come with little strips of this heat tape and it uh it's on the top covers and whatnot and basically just it's really simple and it's very cheap it saves you a 75 dollar cover [Music] so with the power recording oil is the is your enemy you want to get all of it off so it's been soaking in the juicer get a good whiff of that stuff huh smells really good yeah it's pretty strong too dump this so we're not popping this no man yeah all right can i get that to go probably do that and then uh the powder coat will fill most of that in i don't want to go much deeper but that's a hell of a lot better than the sand paint i'll sand it but it does go in there a little bit deeper i wouldn't want to get too crazy with this 200s man they live a rough life [Music] so we're sanded up now i'm just gonna have to i just bolt the thing together like this plug i got high temp uh stoppers basically so you can plug you don't want to get any powder coat inside the area where the bearings go and i just put an old cylinder on it sacrifice it and then yes you don't have to tape this off and uh there's just a lot of taping and a lot of tedious work if you think the rest of the what we were doing is tedious you didn't see nothing yet basically got to have everything sealed because this powder coating and it has a has a thickness to it it's pretty thick not like just regular spray paint it'd be like a probably like four or five coats of paint so you don't want to get it where where you don't want it where stuff won't fit because it does not come off these two that's an important one if you're gonna do that because this is where your coil bolts up and grounds out so you you have to have connection there and if you get that full powder coat you won't have spark bolts for the coil we don't want anything in there here's another one i kind of keep that uh free of powder coat the bar oil vent keep that free some of these i don't mind if a little bit of powder coat actually gets in there it keeps the bolts really tight kind of like instead of using thread locker and kind of just a little extra extra to keep the bolts in there tight yeah what are you plugging these up with what are these they're for they're high temp silicone apparently and they're for powder coating i it's i bought them specifically for baking in the oven because they go 400 degrees for about 20 minutes and then this is just a high temp like hvac tape and uh it works good but these are pretty easy to buy yeah they're relatively cheap too you just buy a set of a billion of them for whatever 30 bucks well all right all right so we set up the powder coat so we got your little tent right here a little powder coating tent what's with the it's not a tent it's a powder coating booth oh sorry powder coating booth what's with the electrodes and stuff so what this is if it was plugged in it worked a lot better actually and uh it's uh from what i know my little knowledge of it yeah is that the it charges the piece that you're powder coating that's why you have to have this this lead going to it and it basically it's like positive negative so it's charging it and then whatever's in here might be negative or negative and positive i have no idea but all i know is that if you don't have it charged this powder won't stick so it'll cling you'll see it'll cling to this so i'm pressing this pedal which charges it yeah it basically is going to see how it cling to it yeah i mean it's on it's on everything else but and i put it on nice and thick so and then it should be i might have to spin it here quick i got my rubber gloves and jacob uh assures me i will not get shocked powerline clearance certified so here's it there we go that stuff's under so and now we put it in the oven this stuff would wipe off if you sneezed on it it would come off but once you bake it different story and what i like about it is you can paint do six coats and let them all dry it takes all day two days this takes 20 minutes and then once it's cooled it's it's done and it's just a toaster oven huh just a toaster oven powder coating open we just bought it yep powder coating album jacob powder sorry powder coating oven how long do you leave it in there 20 minutes on 400 all right it's like a pizza you're cooking all sorts of stuff today yeah right you need to get it actually we need to get a shop with a kitchen yeah i know i like to get hungry looking at all this stuff we could be making pizzas yeah it looks tasty ooh that turned out good okay good most of the nasty stuff ah good catch huh should do it with a strainer cleaned yep i just throw it in a big old container like that get a really a new thing a carb cleaner throw a glove on and uh this stuff we had it sitting there how long i mean we've been working on this off for like a month so three days three days this one got pretty involved if they all took this long i would have been done with this business a long time ago check that out huh you never know that wasn't a new flywheel hit it with a little bit of compressed air this thing will look brand new [Music] there you go huh this is pretty good and nice yeah all right so on when you use powder coat and we used uh i put three layers of powder coat on this you're gonna be uh you're gonna have some build up and you're gonna want to sand that off especially with the tool that puts these bearings in so on these three little points right here you're going to want to sand that back down to through the original powder coat so you know that you have that that bearing and seal all the way seated in while the seal especially and it'll hit that with the hand sander also you're going to want to stay on this bar stood out just get this down to individuals and then i'll hit it away do you know which parts to sand off it's going to be parts that make contact yeah so when you put uh like this i can hit that with a hand sander actually too so like right here when i use the tool which is this i actually actually have it right here when you press the seals in this is actually a seal tool and you're going to want to have it down to the original surface otherwise you know you're not getting the seal down far enough because this is made to put the seal on basically is what i'm saying and right here too this is where it stops the tool which is basically a sleeve you just push it down so now if you had a sixteenth of an inch of build up on there you're not gonna get your seal all the way on if that makes sense yeah and then other parts like we plugged the areas that the bearings and seals go in with those high temp stoppers so uh you definitely wouldn't would not want to get anything in there and if you did you'd have to clean it out you know we plugged everything we could so any little areas that are critical for you know for room you're going to want to take care of that lots of little parts need to go on that the wiring and the plug lead can be a pain sometimes to get in the way this works you have to basically fish this through here first because you can't get this this fatter end through it and then usually if you don't bend this wire at all you can just fish it right through there and uh then put this part on so it stops it from poking back through and this one goes in easy so that's that one and then you have to get the plug lead which is over here just bend it really straight because this one has to go through and again you have to get it through this grommet as well first because you can't whoops it goes through the other way never mind again been a while there we go fish it through then through this grommet and the only reason for that i guess is if you push it this way you have to take the plug lead off and if you don't put the grommet on first before you put this end in you can't fit this through does that make sense you know what i mean yeah you got to put it's got to go kind of in a certain order and then i wait to do this until i know how much length i need on these and uh i'll push i'll center all that stuff and then this talks behind the oil pump so i can leave it like that for now and then i know that i don't have to mess with this because you don't want to get it all the way assembled and realize you didn't even put this in that's kind of a pain but i think that's much easier than trying to work with two crankcase halves and wiring all in the way cool there it is these style coils for the steels stills jacob's got you see and still know they thread on i don't know what they call it where i live really everybody's so still everybody's just still yeah i think it's probably about half and half here can we can we tell him about eric trump yeah i guess i don't care what he who is going to believe me anyway you can check out john yeah john built the software eric trump uh jacob didn't believe me at first i don't think and i guess he saw oh i guess i put it back in my motorhome he saw my screaming eagle and messaged john and you can i didn't believe him at first either but i looked eric eric trump follows you on instagram i'm like holy crap no way why wouldn't eric trump follow me right who doesn't follow john yeah it was a 261 just like jacob's except that i didn't go with crazy with the hydro dipping and all that stuff this mine's even better yeah this is even better mine's even more patriotic yeah he's all about america that guy i tell you what most normal down to earth person that you're going to deal with i was blown away i think i was more starstruck than anything like it uh he couldn't have been more normal messing through back and forth treated me like a normal person it was pretty crazy that's crazy yeah he doesn't follow me he saw this the 260 no i don't know what happened there yeah you missed out on that this grommet right here now you know how much length that you got so you only need about that much on this wire but now with that coil in there you know that you can pull that that far if that makes sense okay then you just gotta fish this grommet in and i'm gonna put a little bit of oil in this these ones are a pain to get in absolutely a pain to get these in one of the hardest parts of this whole assembly believe it or not is to get that dumb little grommet in there i get it so you see how that kind of pulls it down like that it doesn't have a choice but to get the bottom part in and then you can't be gentle with it you'll never get it in i've even disassembled some of these where they just don't put it in or they'll like cut a bunch of it off just because they gave up i mean this could literally if you're going to feel me the whole time i'm gonna you know you just gotta get it in there somehow and uh no easy trick to do no easy trick a little bit of a little bit of lubrication i guess a little bit of grease on it there i'm starting to get it and like i said you don't want to stab through it and hit the wiring so it's slowly going and i've never like i said i've never found a really like a trick to this but i don't like not putting it in there we go my special grommet installing tool i think that's what you call those grommets there it is and that's just going to keep it from the oil the oil pump goes on too and then the spark plug lead just goes behind it so that kind of keeps it in there these things are just jammed in i mean every little thing they can get in there they throw it in there and don't give it much room looks like candy corn or something just put her back together now the big pieces go on this is the fast part putting it back together like this this little guy right here this line i think you saw me do that we opened up that hole a little bit yeah this impulse line because it goes through here and they always get kinked and uh they kind of they can kind of wear pretty fast through there it was a sharp edge you've seen how small that opening was before i opened it up yeah i do because this impulse line has to go through here and with that really sharp edge there and it's not really round it's almost like a d-shaped so i've always opened them up a little bit we did that earlier that way it's got some room in there and i even put a little bit of heat shrink tape around it for like electrical it just kind of gives it a little extra padding and this is basically just put it back together just how it came apart no clamps on these some people put that gasket maker around there we just got a new boot so we don't need to and this when this goes on this goes up and down there's this little line right here a lot of times when i get these things i see them i'll see them like this for some reason just one of these goofy little assembly tricks so you'll know if your 200 has been torn apart if you get it and that piece is in there the wrong way it's just one of those things that a lot of people just don't think that there's a right in the wrong way there is a right and wrong way for that piece how many 200s you think you've taken apart and put back together oh boy i guess hey just pick a number uh probably close to 200 yeah maybe it's hard to say i guess i mean if maybe more i guess i don't know if you count yeah yeah probably more than 200 but no more we're done with them so so you say so i say right we got all uh nice new hardware doing this one up right and then this gun is i've talked about that before but it locks so i can squeeze them down so if anybody thinks i'm just ramming bolts i'm i'm not it's actually set very low so it makes it impossible to strip bolts i'll see how a lot so i twist it like that yeah so i always get that comment when i work on stuff set it low torque it by hand there we go so we're getting there okay so yeah this bolt right here i put a little bit of red loctite on it just because the muffler is this one has it's a muffler that's been ran before so the bolt has come out and there we go so that makes it a dual port muffler yes yes you gotta love it gotta thank gordie at west coast for that guy he uh made you custom ones for me you came up with the idea and then he kind of mass-produced it yeah yeah he was you know he gave me a few that had jcs in it but they're all going to have wcs in it it's definitely his product it's just a kind of an idea i had because i was sick of trying to figure out a way to braise weld to this aluminum this is an aluminum and i just had problems with them some falling out and yeah i kind of just gave him a general idea and he made it a real life product and it's actually it's pretty sweet i like it a lot of people use them big parts going on now buddy these you have so there's two different styles of bolts for these covers if you have this bolt this fat one that is not for your recoil that goes on the other side for the clasp it's the thinner ones that go for your recoil if you ram one of them them thicker bolts in here you're gonna start stripping out plastics and even you could possibly break the plastics then the two metal the longer ones or the fine thread go into the crankcase like all these little there's basically four main styles of bolts in these two hundreds and if you know where they go it's pretty simple if you put wrong ones in wrong spots you could punch holes in your crank case for instance your oil pump takes the shorter ones if you put the longer ones in you could you could punch through your crankcase and you have a really bad day and uh put the you put a short one in where the long one goes you could not be held in all the way a little this little piece right here that snaps in so i'll make sure that's in there all the way then it kind of latches under this piece for the fuel tank and sits in there just like that it's never gonna be that clean again right that's the one thing about them it's like man these these saws just live a little bit out of life we have a dirty life nothing you can do and we're almost there really with the chain catch the powder coated felling dog quarter inch sprocket that's going to be sweet the orange spelling dog actually does look pretty good orange yeah the prototype yeah one of a kind so attach this first and then uh well i gotta get my here we'll redo that take two and put that uh antibiotic mount in first okay so now this is how you really do it basically put this guy in first tilt the handle up like that don't ever take that green wire out if you can avoid it if it comes out or it came with it out then you don't really have a choice that goes around here it always goes to this back post and then you can get that bolt in and they just basically it's just like that it doesn't matter if you if it tightens and it touches anything because it's just grounded out so it's fine that it sits down like that it's actually better like that and don't attach it to the front post because then it's too kinked in there and then in the handle on the bottom is the shorter of the the bigger bolts and it's the only one like that oh yeah we are going to try the i'll send you with one of these and then you can be one of our test guinea pigs because not many people have actually tried these yet it eliminates it's called the buffer eliminator from nick stockel and it stiffens up the suspension basically because these things tear all the time i don't know if you've had a 200 t that you've had yeah these go bad yeah so basically this is uh it eliminates that it matches too it matches it's red you're you are color blind jacob you think that matches not even close we won't tell them guys we'll probably get you because it's red and that's orange we'll probably get you a black one so it's it does match at least matches the other part or maybe it's my goofy eyes with my crazy color perception yeah you just got extra good color vision yeah right i can kind of see it now can you point it out yeah there's a different color there we go so it takes that shorter one but yeah i mean it's not horrible yeah it's not just then come on around to this side oh what a great time for a phone call so this guy here don't need to be gentle with it more time the more you are gentle with it the harder it is to get these through and then you you have to actually have more of a chance of wrecking them they're really tough so just just grab it and go don't use aggressive serration on your players like you don't want to use something that's really aggressive but just goes through like that pops through and uh the rest of it is just carb housing take this off quick so we can stuff this through here i think your old tank had a different style vent on it but these work too sometimes you gotta shorten the lineup though we'll get this attached and set into place it clips in right here okay this one will be okay but sometimes this this is a little long and it likes to it likes to kink right there that's your vent line so your saw will run and everything will work good but then it'll start to act up and die out i've noticed that sometimes you just gotta cut a little bit off that line it's really weird that some of them are like that and others are fine this is another part that sometimes people have a little bit of a hard time with is putting this carb in i'll show a really easy way to do this this hook end it kind of looks like i don't know what you'd call that shape but this the smaller hook with knot s curve that hooks in from the outside in just let it fall down you have your saw in the start position like that and you also need to have this boot on before you put the car in accelerator pump boot so what i do is i come in through the side here grab this piece don't worry about the the choke lever at first and as long as it's in the start position this might be hard to see you can kind of you can guide this throttle linkage in i kind of guided it in where it needs to go as i set the carbon and that's in all the way now you put your choke on everything should sit in place it stayed in there did it stay no it didn't stay so start over i'll show you how to do it twice apparently because we're really thorough they're kind of a pain but usually this works really good with no issue it looks like it stayed i think we're good this time okay there we go you want to test it before you put the cover on because otherwise you're just taking it back off and then don't forget to put your fuel line on so i do all this before i put the bolts in for the suspension and the handle and all that because it allows you to move stuff around a little bit and like you we can put that in too and the climbing clasp and all that it doesn't matter that can go in after but now i'll bolt everything up on the outside so we know that our carb is incorrectly okay and then these bolts are going to go into the antibiotic mounts and we're pretty much done so that these are t20 torques and then the rest are t27 27 being the bigger obviously and uh other than that an eight millimeter is all you really need for for uh sizes to know on these t27 t20 eight millimeter that's about it i think climbing class this might be so this this raised part goes on the outside it goes in like this you can't you don't want to put it in like this so raise part on the outside and it just goes on just like that it kind of can be kind of a pain to put on but usually if you can write like that it'll kind of snap in and then when you put the bolt in this was that one thicker bolt the coarse thread a little bit thicker than the rest that is just for just kind of extra extra so you don't drop your saw now we can put our filter cover back on our filter base make sure that boot is in there right some people run without this little spitback filter some people like it i personally i don't like to run them in there i should take it out yeah oh yeah yeah this i just leave it out again i'll send it with you if you want it or somebody tells you different that knows better just tell them that blame it all on me they always get lost anyways yeah i just don't think it's necessary really basically the winter setting summer setting it's uh i think the drop-off i'm not sure on this i shouldn't say if i don't know but i think it's like 40 degrees it seems this seems pretty warm maybe yeah it's pretty warm that's about as i always just leave it in summer mode really it doesn't get that cold right yeah right hope that summer mode right there yeah it's the one you can see i believe yeah and then uh you i cannot remember what the flip it around right yeah you flip it around but i can't remember the degrees i should know that but usually i've i've never seen one that it was flipped around yeah i've seen every single one of them like this and uh i haven't heard of anybody having a problem being like oh let me flip that around oh there we go now runs great uh but obviously the engineers are are not dumb so they're doing it for a reason this little bearing here i like to put a little bit of grease on it we're about ready to put that giant panther bar on this thing and see what it looks like our friends in oregon sent this this came to john's house last night look at this huh oh yeah you all know you all know who sent this this is the august hunnicus bar look at that i'm gonna have to back up that thing's huge wow you think i'll pull it we're gonna find out i i have not run ran one yet but uh thank god it's quarter inch piston it's a long bar it's a lot of bar but it's quarter inch pitch so it's really thin so it's like a very narrow curve so you should show them that yeah you're showing that chase so this chain i've never seen before yeah you've seen a quarter inch pitch on some like if you get a pole saw or uh that has a sauna stick or if you get those like my electric husky i think has quarter inch pitch but they've got those extra safety rakers and the nice thing about this i'm just trying to get this untangled yeah it was enough on yeah you can always get untangled by just finding pairs of loops grab it by the ears that's something oh yes but uh you see it's got no safety raker it's just one single raker and so it's really small dainty chain but it makes a very narrow curve so the idea is the saw is utilizing less energy blasting through wood because it's a very narrow curve it's a smaller you're taking littler bites of wood that is so cool all that's a quarter inch pitch chain that i've used has those safety rakers on it so i'm really curious to see how this works yeah so this doesn't i actually bought the panther bar for my husky not so much because of the bar but because of the panther chain you know getting rid of that raker makes it pull so much better so i've got i've got a 14-inch on my husky electric saw i really like it this is that's a lot that's ridiculous that's a lot of wood we're going to see yeah we got that logo out there i don't know how big that wanted that maple chunk is i'd be pretty happy but we got it but we gotta convert it to quarter inch pitch so yep we got to put this bad boy on it so i think and he sent it with the oiler gear too good man yeah what a guy yeah august is awesome you're going to see oh you even sent it would you send it with a piston stop too oh is that crazy look at that dude yeah hey that's awesome we already got the right or oiler gear so we can keep this i mean that's brand new too so keep that on there but you do need for the three ace and i did send the other one with you i believe you do need a different one otherwise actually i think this fits both if i'm not mistaken oh cool so that's kind of nice so yeah that goes on just like that nice yeah yeah let's see how this does i'm probably gonna come back to 14. i'm probably going to go yeah it seems like eventually for the right situation this is going to be fun and that's all i do when i put it on it like i said we want august is a man and i won't even argue about the piston stop but that's how i put them on all right step aside john all right i get out of the way let's see how the pros do it doesn't matter which way i hold it yeah just keep it sideways there we go yeah you have to change backwards see i think i thought you were the pro i knew i should have been running the phone yep yeah i like this actually running the phone yeah it's not bad you got the next uh there's a test after it's putting together an entire saw yeah well we tore that yeah literally tore that down to the bear you could you can't go any farther no there's nothing else you can take apart i got it i got a mess everywhere can't be like gordy's shop is so pristine and clean i mean does he literally have like a maid running around there like picking stuff up he's got it because like i don't understand it i've never seen her but he's got to where you got the bar not for this thing yeah it should be in that tray or somewhere look at that oh it's actually got like uh it's like skeletonized that bar a little bit i guess so that is weird oh that's gonna look so good with that orange guard on it yeah even better you have to do a photo shoot with this thing so these are literally as simple as you just click i'm amazed the powder coating is probably honestly the powder coating is probably most of the weight yeah it feels like nothing so one thing about this i'll tell you right off the bat that you might not want it i think it's the reason that the last guy didn't want it and i'll show you it's because when you set it down it tips over so uh you know what i mean aluminum on it yeah big those bolts heads too it doesn't matter the ones they send you are the same they're they're actually raised more so it uh it wants to tip forward like that whereas if you don't have that guard on there yeah it doesn't do it let's get it yeah john's just putting a little glue in a little rubber yeah we're gonna so it doesn't tip over it drives drives everybody nuts that uses these tank guards they are nice but drove me nuts i know that and uh we're gonna fix that otherwise i don't know what else a guy would do already gluing stuff to the crazy nice uh it looks cool though like it looks like it matches yeah it's supposed to be there i mean oh yeah that's perfect dries super fast too that's the craziest saw i've ever seen yes look at that oh that's nice yep we drained all the fluids let's see what we're weighing in at nine pounds 15 ounces yep nine pounds no trickery no both empty you're not gonna really need to stay on there oh no huh there you go yeah see that's why you are in charge nine pounds 15 ounces not crazy i don't understand it myself but it's the same weight scale don't lie i mean this one has that's a light bar this has this little thing yeah but this has the aluminum plate on it and a little bit of sawdust yup that bar is so light that's a that's a still light bar yep and what 14 inch 14 inches this is a 20. it's a panther bar but it's quarter inch pitch so it's thinner it's a thinner metal and it's got those i don't know if that's just skeletonized or what the purpose of that is i guess probably for weight but dude it's light i was like thinking this would be kind of a fun thing but and um sort of like a novelty but i'm like holding it i'm like i might just run it like this this is light when i picked it up i was surprised like i was really surprised it's not really front end heavy the the tape guard's making it nose dive no look it look at that it's totally it's totally balanced god that is so sweet crazy dude this bar weighs nothing all right she's all done look at that beauty there's even a little secret touch that john put on it you want to hit the lights john look at that haunted too really clever john i mean who's who else makes a glow-in-the-dark chainsaw definitely a first for me so all right we're gonna test this bad boy out so i'm in washington again what ended up happening was when john put the saw together he bought the crank seals from ebay and they were supposed to be new but the guy sent him used uh seals so the saw was actually leaking air and i had to get on the road so we actually we put the saw together for the video but i left and john actually had to tear the saw down again replace those seals and i couldn't be there to film it because i was i was in oregon at that time but he sent so he fixed it and he sent the saw to me and now i'm at gordy's house now i'm with my second favorite saw builder and uh we're gonna run this thing and see how it runs so let's i but before i do that i just want to say huge thanks to john you know for doing all this for me not many guys would let you not many builders would you know let a guy film their entire process step by step explain it the whole way so really patient i was shocked of a huge new level of respect for builders you know even gordy like just seeing everything that they go through it was so much more than i thought like i really thought it was gonna be like maybe maybe two videos we'd zip right through it but every step of the way him explaining meticulously just all the little details i have so much respect for these guys and what they do so huge thank you to john and yeah let's see how let's see how this thing cuts [Music] [Music] ah [Music] you want to give it a shot gordy that's too big a song for me you want to try it no it's a good running saw though it's only going to get faster you don't want to get on the camera you don't want to be on the camera not today can you can you grab that big one yeah so i'm going to cut it but first i just want to say thanks for watching don't forget to like and subscribe if you want to support the show you can do it at patreon.com treason i've got merch now guilty of treason.com you can there's a form there to fill out if you want to collaborate with me so i'm going to slice this log now and once again thanks for watching i haven't ran one of these forever [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] ripper i like it

Channel: Guilty of Treeson

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Id: YzNftPdgD5Y

Length: 58min 51sec (3531 seconds)

Published: Fri Dec 10 2021