The Krays Inside the Firm.

Ronny cray was buried 5 years ago the East End turned out in huge numbers to honor its most notorious son in his day the most feared criminal in the Underworld and Britain's most famous gangster using exclusive new information and eyewitness accounts we can now reveal the underworld Alliance that sustained the cray firm's reign of terror Reggie cray the surviving twin was released for the day to attend the funeral tonight he is 31 years 6 months 3 weeks and 2 days into a life sentence for murder among the mourners is bank robber Freddy Foreman his partnership with the cray firm goes back 40 years and threatened to defeat the detective who jailed The Craze Freddy Foreman was far more involved with the CRA than I believed at the very beginning uh he was a serious member of the family I didn't realize that at the very beginning I thought the craze were constrained to using their own people but Foreman was somebody that they could call upon at any time when they wanted some serious business to be perpetrated Foreman was an evil man he was a hit man that was open to offers and so I think that bearing in mind his track record 30 years imprisonment would have been Justified Foreman was one of the pole bearers he just completed a prison sentence for handling money from the biggest cash robbery in British history tonight he talks frankly about his career in crime and life inside the firm Freddy Foreman had a lifelong association with the craze and became one of the most feared and ruthless criminals of his generation but he started out as an ordinary Thief after the austerity of the War years you you just sort of drifted in to stealing because there were things you couldn't afford and you couldn't obtain that's when I came into contact with um Charlie Craig he was a good fence so he did [Music] well Charlie used to buy a lot of stuff in East London from and we struck up friendship they used to come over with their man and I had to lock up at perill we used to come and load up there take all the get back to the East End and then of course his his brothers the Twins were younger than him and they were just coming up and always into some sort of trouble or one thing or another and building up a reputation an eastn bank robber became the craze trusted first lieutenant Albert Donahue was the go between in the secret alliances that held the cray empire together an Empire founded on violence as he discovered I was working with a little CR in the East End who were doing security bands and things like that one of the guys that was collected and tied to a chair and rny CRP poke around his face and burnt him we were saying who did that you know but he wouldn't tell us so I I said if someone done that to me I'd be out I'd blow his bloody head off you know anyway I went to the twins Pub in Beth grain and uh I was drinking for a little while I didn't know as they'd sent off for a a gun and Reggie shot me in the foot so I went to the hospital then I hear the firms looking for me so I went around there went around to their house the three the three craes were there Charlie Reggie and Ronnie and then Ronnie said well why didn't you stop all that robbery business and come and get your money with us on the firm put me on a pension if you if you took the punishement uh you was considered a good guy the only thing to do was go my toes over to the East End of London it was like Crossing that little bit of water was was a different world you know it's a different area it was um the police wouldn't know you or recognize you in the street in South London I was known very well so to go over there you felt safe and the twins and Charlie they fixed me up with a flat right opposite the blind Beggar's Pub I lived there I was indebted to the twins in a way for looking after me and which they did they took care of me and um of course they they was also propping bits of business to me at the same time under the wing of the craze Foreman took the next step up the criminal ladder life on the Run put him in the midst of other ruthless and committed villains men from the shabin and dice games of the East End that foreman forged into a gang a heavy mob that set its sights on cash targets their activities made the front pages including this spectacular failure in December 1961 Foreman's gang attacked a bank van carrying wages worth today over a million PC Ted buckle and his dog flash were in the van we were hit on three sides as I came off my seat I saw somebody jumping out of the Lorry in front on the nearest side with a crash helmet on and goggles and then I saw other people coming out with pickaxe handles also with helmets on and we had a couple of big Vans and a lorry that reversed back into the front of the van we had to come along the side of it in another R and we tore down the side of it smashed as side windows cuz there was like half dozen guys in the back and uh caus a bit of confusion there were two on our side at that moment smashing in the windows obviously their intention was to keep us inside that vehicle I said I'm going out with my dog as I opened up the door and started getting out my dog automatically leapt at the first person who was at that moment bringing the pickaxe handle down to hit the vehicle again change direction and hit the dog straight on the head and I instantly went for one of these Fells with the pickaxe handle spun him out put my arm around his neck and held him in a neck lock but out out jump the uh police officer and his dog uh big city copper and uh that was okay but the couple was fighting with one of the other firm and the dog was buying LPS out of his ass you know well we got the chain in the back and ripped the two back doors off and uh the doors came off like a bit of batter and fell in the middle of the road and then when we tried to get in the back of the van to get the money which was laying there in the with in the big leather Cricket bags all lined up it have already cash on wage packets but two guards were standing there in a a fir in position for these two guns two Berettas turn the tables then if you want a bullet in the head you know then you climbed up in the back of the van because there were bullets flying all around the street it wasn't the robbers using the guns it was it was the guards who protected the money and there's one of our firm crawling around on his hands and he's and uh he's been shot right through the head in in one side and out the other it's gone I saw these men running towards the getaway van the back do open and all jumping in and then one of them shouted something they all came back out of that vehicle with their pickaxe SS at that moment I knew that I had a serious problem they intended to get at me to get their other person away I knew my life was at State they meant it to take me out they started raining blows on me and I had to let him go once I let go they just turned and ran so I still have scars on my head uh I couldn't I'm left-handed and I couldn't use my left arm at all and I thought it was just broken but in fact of course they numbed it completely the failed raid left the police with plenty of forensic evidence in the back of one of the Raiders Vans they found the fingerprint of a known criminal it was on this gas bottle Foreman's gang needed a for Alibi only an unimpeachable witness could convince a jury that the thief was elsewhere at the time of the raid the cray twins had the solution the twins that I found a particular Doctor Who who came and gave evidence for one of my one of the people put put the the the chap in the surgery at the time of the robbery so there's no way they could put him at the scene so naturally he he was found guilty of um accessory before the fact and it was going 3 years instead of of 15 in the struggle that followed one of the bandits was shot at the same time the police Constable was injured and he is now in hospital as far as we know no money was taken and the Gang made their getaway carrying with them the wounded man we all came away looking our wounds Al the man who was shot with seriously injured you can't go to the hospital you can't do anything because you're just offering him up and putting him inside for the rest of his life CU I had a a private doctor I could trust and got him around to inject him and try and prevent any further damage but it was too serious and uh that was the end of I'm afraid that that was the end of the the guy and um we had to deal with it ourselves we had a little sideline of smuggling which was down in New Haven bringing watches over from Belgium and France going going down to see a fishing boat you know very safe old boat so we had that facility open to us from the old fisherman that was down there and uh that's where we actually disposed of him took him out he knew all the shipping lanes and and the fishing Lanes where it was safe to put down anybody and um wrapped up the right way and chicken wine and stuff you know so that is the wa to White down then that was that's what happened how many people have you personally dispatched in that way it sounds a bit AG grossome Bank to talk about that more than one two yeah yeah yeah London was less security conscious in the 1960s and The Craze were a magnet for any employee with a grudge with inside information Foreman's gang could simply sneak through a door in the lunch hour and Come Away with an enormous prize they then made a cool getaway with 40 bars of gold worth 200,000 and they closed all the doors behind them to leave no trace the twit also gave me some Charles Pixley on this particular occasion it was um half a ton of gold in gold bars delivered there and uh it was given to me and uh we went to work and we we we got it you half a ton of gold which was was good nice sweet and um the twins was happy everyone was happy so I was indebted to them again once again and of course they they were they got their their Corner they got their whack Foreman's share meant he could turn down the Great Train Robbery just 3 months later in August 1963 but he became intimately involved in the aftermath because of his relationship with Frank Williams the deputy head of Scotland yard's Elite flying Squad Williams was hunting The Train Robbers and he was Foreman's kind of copper had good relationship with Frank Williams I know him from back in the 50s when he was a DI in Kennington when I had the club in HTH walk you could never BBE him on offering money he would never do anything with money but he would say if if they want to come in they come in and I'll treat them fair and I treat them on what the evidence is most of the Great Train Robbers were caught and sentenced to an unheard of 30 years in prison some of them including Buster Edwards had got away and fled the country 3 years later he was tired of Life On The Run and wanted to come home even if it meant prison he planned to return some of the loot in exchange for a lighter sentence Freddy Foreman was the only man he knew with the police contacts to fix it on September the 19th 1966 £50,000 of Buster's money turned up in a phone box the public was puzzled many wondered how much of the £50,000 was to enrich the flying Squad and how much to return to the post office nobody was quite sure of the truth I met B flew out to Germany and made him in uh cologne and then uh arranged for him to come back and give your up to Frank Williams in my public house I found fank he came man and B got a fair Shake he he wasn't vered up or feared up with any evidence and he got half the sentence he got instead of 30 years he got 50 which was was something you could cope with and handle Foreman was carving out a unique position for himself in the Underworld on one hand he had the support and friendship of the craze on the other an open line to the two top detectives in the flying Squad Frank Williams was hoping to be the head of the flying Squad when Tommy Butler retired he was ambitious in that respect and you and Frank negotiated that negoti yeah I was I was taking Tommy Butler and Fain The Simpsons in the stand and then buying them lunch and expensive bottles of wine and everything you know in September 67 there was pressure to Jail the London gangsters Chief superintendent Leonard Reed was given the task of building a squad to tackle The Craze he did not subscribe to the belief common among detectives at the time that you need a thief To Catch a Thief do you think that Freddy Foreman and Frank Williams had a proper relationship well it was a relationship that other police officers have indulged in I don't particularly think it was a very healthy relationship at all you never actually joined the flying Squad did you no I didn't I didn't want to join the flying Squad any particular reason well it was just that that uh I didn't like the activities of some of the members of the flying Squad and uh when one was working as as one was expected to with a team it was very difficult not to become embra in some of the activities that they got up to and I felt that I could survive much easily and better on my own corrupt activities yes in part two The Craze and Freddy Foreman throw the flying Squad off the scent as they descend into a spiral of increasing violence and then [Music] murder in January 1965 Freddy Foreman became a murderer after his brother George was targeted in an underworld Vendetta two villains armed with a shotgun blasted George Foreman in the groin when he opened his front door to them he nearly died the information network of the craze helped Freddy Foreman take his revenge the attackers were tracked to a bethl green PB one of them was a small Time Thief called ginger Marx foreman and his mom raced to the pub and gunned down down Marx in the street they bundled the corpse into the back of the car all that was left at the scene were Marx's spectacles and a pool of blood naturally I was um I wanted to be Avenged and it was pay payback time you know for me and as soon I got it over with I couldn't live with there I had to do it I mean the place knew and everyone in the underw world fairly knew what went down there I didn't need the brains of law George to work it out but in it it was another thing and everybody who was associated with me was under investigation and and getting their their doors kicked in and and SP all their poty spun you know nobody would talk because they feared you well they never it was it was just not fear it was out of um respect they never SP that's what what it was all about the body took the boat Journey from New Haven the police had nothing to go on Freddy Foreman had got away with murder it made a deep impression on The Craze twins I suppose they looked at it as um an achievement in a way should use a different word there probably not the achievement is to get to go to do something serious the the major Capital thing you can do in in this life and uh and to do it successfully I suppose I said well you know you mustn't mess with those people because you know what'll happen in early 1966 the whisper on the street was that the craze and a South London gang led by the richardon brothers were about to go to [Music] war but a fight at this catford nightclub put paid to all that the Richardson gang suffered a severe and unexpected defeat at the hands of a group of armed local villains Eddie Richardson and mad Frankie Fraser the gang's chief enforcer were in hospital with gunshot wounds the shootout left one man dead and others seriously injured the defeat of the Richardsons robbed Ronnie cray of the violent night out he craved but he was not to be thwarted police are still searching for the gunman who shot a man in the bar of an East End Saloon the dead man was 38 and Ved detectives less than 24 hours later the cray intelligence Network passed Ronnie cray the news that a straggler from the Richardson Camp George Cornell was drinking in the blind beggar Ronnie cray strowed in and shot him dead in front of a dozen terrified customers Ronnie cray was arrested and Freddy Foreman went to lean on the witnesses his intervention backed by his reputation as an unconvicted murderer ensured that the first police investigation ran into a wall of Silence I went to see them afterwards and uh you know just to confirm that what what was being said is it's nice if you're in the toilet you you hear a gun you don't come out and if you don't see anything you can't uh say anything about it you were there to guarantee the unwritten law that you don't talk yeah yeah to that extent yeah Freddy foreman and The Craze were forming a unique Alliance in the Underworld the fear they generated allowed them to penetrate London cluband and take their extortion rackets into the West End unopposed Mafia money from America helped open the fashionable Colony Club and The Craze and Foreman were Partners it seemed they had struck gold I would go up to the West End and collect from the clubs and I was after the colony the colony was paying three grand a quart Albert used to bring money from The Colony Club and different businesses and staright club and this one and that and he's always bringing money up because he was involved in uh in lots of different Enterprises the Twins and foran would do bits and pieces of business not not always uh gang stuff but uh it was like tip for T you andle my business and we can be somewhere else we can be at the dogs we can be talking to the vica whichever kept the other person in their status quo you know how formidable an alliance would that be in the Underworld at that time pretty strong very strong I was a sort of backup to the to the C and and people knew that and they knew that I was very close with them and uh their enemies became your enemies people W prepared to go to war with with the twins I think they they had second thoughts when they know I was uh behind them by the mid-60s what was it you would do for each other well we were we were prepared uh to do probably anything that was asked and and were there any questions this was the moment when the cra's view of their own power became so deluded that they planned a crime solely to enhance their reputations in 1966 they decided to Spring Frank Mitchell from dartmore prison aged 37 Mitchell was an East Ender who had spent half his life behind bars in violent Defiance of authority he had escaped six times and was nicknamed The Mad axeman the system could not handle him and he ended up worse off than many murderers serving a life sentence with no date of release the Mitchell myth appealed to The Craze but was it the real man Mitchell he'd been birched he'd been flogged he'd been certified insane he'd been in solitary confinement he he'd had an awful life really uh and then when he got to dmore he began to change previously he took great pleasure in assaulting prison officers and became because of that a kind of a hero amongst his fellow inmates but then when he realized that he was the man that was suffering all the punishment as the result of that he realized Iz that there was no percentage in that and so by the time he his Escape was effected he was a totally different man all together on the 12th of December 1966 Mitchell ran away from a prison working party to rendevu with two members of The crra Firm who drove him to a hideout in London like his previous escapes this was an act of protest Mitchell wanted a date of release from his life sentence but his repeated appeals to the home office had all failed despite the support of the dartmore governor he looked to his home ground for help Mitchell was an East Ender and the idea was the The Craze could further identify themselves as benefactors not only to criminals but to society by forcing the Home Secretary to give Mitchell a u a date of release and then send him back and say now we've achieved something and there Again The Craze have done something that that is acceptable and commendable as far as the criminal underworld is concerned so once again its reputation absolutely reputation it was a crime born of vanity and it went horribly wrong in The Hideout Mitchell became increasingly desperate the authorities would not budge and he found he had swapped one prison for another The Craze got him a prostitute a club Hostess called Lisa Prescot to calm him down but Mitchell had tasted freedom and wouldn't give it up Mitchell refused to go back and then they were confounded now what do we do and so the decision then was taken very clinically very cold-bloodedly that they would kill him and that's what they did the cr's invited guest was no longer welcome Ronnie cray ordered Mitchell's execution Reggie cray Charlie cray and Freddy Foreman gathered to work out the details of how to get away with another murder the motive was clear self-preservation MIT was end dangering everyone's future in a sense because you just didn't know how far away it was going to go it protected everybody from getting arrested cuz that's that was going to be the final outcome within ours Foreman's gang was on the road with murder in mind they had a stake in this too Mitchell had become a threat to thei iance with the craze and everything that went with it they were benefiting from the activities Twins were creating in this Empire where he looked very lucrative and we was going to get money from it and uh it could have led to much bigger and better things was it put to you in those terms that was obvious without even you know even discussing it they wanted your expertise in this and your expertise was to make the problem the evidence the body it disappear there think to disappear Mitchell trusted Albert donu the man who had taken him off the mall it became his job to persuade Mitchell to leave The Hideout and get into the van in nearby lady Smith Avenue Donahue insist he did not know what would happen next Freddy foreman and another man shot Mitchell dead as the van pulled away Donahue witnessed The Killing and afterwards realized why Foreman got the job the a pretty well-known shooter on the firm mie Gerard he'd done a few someone talks about half a dozen I'm pretty sure they did the ginger marks business and Disposal no body no crime that was the belief MIT was taking down a New Haven where the smuggling operation we had it was always a facility there to use if we needed it uh which became uh very useful and U that's where we did where we actually disposed of it I think was so B that I come to do that sort of thing a little bit of Madness there myself you know you think you're untouchable if you do things right you you'll get away with it and would have got away with it if it wasn't for people opening their mouths you know would you be a happier man now if you had got away with it no I'd been a happier man now if I hadn't have done it and if IID I never had to commit these sort of crimes but I'm not proud of the fact what I've done I feel sorry and I apologize to their families or anybody that was left behind it's late in the day to apologize but I sincerely do 12 days after his Escape Mitchell was dead but the biggest Manhunt in British criminal history carried on the public and more importantly the politicians wanted results so the flying Squad was put in overall command of the operation to find Mitchell they quickly concluded he was alive and safely out of the country there was a an individual officer a Chief Inspector in the line Squad who was identified as being the man that would collate all this information about Mitchell and he was very convinced that Mitchell was in Ireland now where he got that information from I don't know the officer involved was Frank Williams along with another Detective Williams sent a memo which has been made public for this program asserting strongly that Mitchell was undoubtedly in Ireland in the mem addressed to the commander of London's detective Force the officers claimed that two entirely separate sources had confirmed that Mitchell was in the Irish Republic it said the information was undoubtedly correct there was letters written to say that he still alive they was trying to make invades to people of influence to let filter information back to get back to the police would you have taken the opportunity to reinforce that idea Frank Williams and the police that um Mitchell was safe and abroad yeah well I kind of I mean that that was uh banded around all over London and of course I'd give it Credence if I had I I'd say yeah it's possibly that's right you know that's best best thing for him the police swallowed the criminals line completely leaving Mitchell's family to cope with the ugly rumors that began to circulate about his ultimate fate there one minute one person was saying he was um in the B Road fly over someone else said he was fed to the pigs someone else said he was down a s pit uh he had been cremated in a cemetery just all different rumors we're going to work because like we used to be be followed by people like in um what newspaper newspapers and that and um like you just get pointed out and things like that it wasn't very nice for us pointed out why I mean what would they say they just say like that sisters and things like that the Mad a sister no I didn't say the Mad a sister they did did they I can't remember that say and what was that like to endure it wasn't very nice but then I didn't care because we knew he wasn't a mad X-Men so didn't really bother us what would you say to people who enjoy the myth that's grown up around the gangsters and the criminals of that time I think it's a load of crack in other words they wouldn't enjoy it so much if it happened to their family any of their families The Craze had now got away with murder twice they were beginning to acquire a taste for it in part three Reggie cray gets his own grizzly the initiation Reggie cray went out to kill so as to build up his bad name he became a murderer at this North London house the unsuspecting victim was Jack the Hat M vit a fellow thief and local heavy he was lured to a party in the basement and Reggie stabbed him to death once Ronnie had done Cornell he's always screaming at Reggie I've done mine time you done yours you know a dozen Witnesses helped to affirm his new status as a killer the cray twins walked off the scene leaving the rest of the firm to clear up the mess in the Panic that followed the corpse was dumped in a car just yards from Freddy Foreman's doorstep he later served a 10year sentence for disposing of the body as I explained to Ronnie that's me finished I don't want to be involved I don't want to know anything about anything in in the future no more CU I I wasn't going to play the part of an Undertaker to clear up the mess after they uh on one of their crazy nights out you know new ronic his temperament and his he big phone him out or sending people over or something every you know 2os and 3es in the morning just iron somebody out and want me to clear up after him I said now this is it you know no no don't stop going around sh people are thinking you get away with it you know thought yourself had where's it going to end you know there was a a real feeling of full booing the atmosphere was such I couldn't see into the future where I could before you know I I used to plan ahead and but now I was there in a position where I I didn't know where it was going to lead to Frank Mitchell was the that was the Ryan on the wall The Firm I could see that I was cracking up their NES were jangled and you know then it was all popping pills and stuff like that I was in a terrible State and uh I mean I did try and clear up the situation so that they could survive Chief superintendent nippa Reed was now targeting The Craze with a task force of over 20 officers each one handpicked because he feared corrupt officers would leak details of his inquiry to The Craze so he based his team at tintagel House South of the T and well away from the rumor mill of the met I knew that if I remained at Scotland Yard the likelihood was the likelihood was that information from my office would find its way back to the cray organization [Music] I wanted people that I knew and could trust in my squad and I want and I told all of them that they must under no circumstances uh visit Scotland Yard alone that they would go in peirs so that they couldn't be confronted by one of their alleged friends nippa Reed was fighting a 30-year-old culture of sleeves which encouraged detectives and villains to come to a cozy accommodation with each other used to meet up with people in the flying Squad the same as you did other villains in you walk in a pub and they've been in the other bar and they send a drink over you'd send a drink over and and you and you go they probably be kicking your door down on the weekend and and swaging you down the neck you know putting you on IDs and the work place of was obviously you could strain out but I mean we won't don't want to talk about them because they did a service and if they get an arrest and it and they get a conviction and if they could drop out a little bit of the the nasty stuff and any evidence well that was that was fair enough Foreman should have been the flying squad's number one target as a busy and determined armed robber he was precisely the sort of criminal the squad had been set up to deal with not make deals with Foreman was leading a Charmed Life some detectives thought they knew why Freddy former had a very close contact with a man who was the deputy head of the flying Squad at that time uh there's no doubt that he was an informant of some kind for that man and it was probably a reciprocal Arrangement and and based on that he was probably forewarned about certain matters that uh uh he may have been Accu accused of or suspected of how many convictions have you got can't for operate none none none was there an explanation for that the explanation is uh there's no evidence to prove prove that these things how many times have you been tried for murder then twice and what's been the result on those occasions I was quitted to okay in May 19 68 nippa Reed and his team arrested The Craze in their mother's new Council flat the timing was not of his choosing the police had a mole in The Firm who told them that another murder was being planned the firm was rounded up and ended up in brickton prison but Nia's case against them was not yet strong he had no signed statements and no forensic evidence he had to use a mixture of bluff and Gile to make his case this place is the chapel uh of brickland prison and just beyond the door at the bottom is awing where all these prisoners were kept and I would come late at night and booking as as the Reverend x y o z and uh and they would be brought to me quietly without their shoes slippered along these corridors and down to see me because it was important from their point of view that they were never seen to be giving any kind of intelligence or statement to me otherwise their life was in Jeopardy they all understood that the craze only knew one tactic fear now that they were behind bars their idea of a defense against the murder charges was simple to terrorize members of The Firm into pleading guilty to them I'll show Reggie my notes he looks at him and he ripped him up the Ronnie says what we've decided is uh new standing up for Mitchell and we'll take all the the other stuff all the other stuff once people know they're off the murders no one's going to accuse them of Grievous Bly arm or fraud or anything they're going to get probation so I I I said I thought and I went no that was it you temperature dropped had had a visit the afternoon my mother came up with the baby as I passed the baby back I gave her this note like get go to uh B Street tell nipp Reed he can have the business if he come to see me once donu had turned his back on the craze the case against them began to build but the fear lingered on detectives from nippa Squad Trace Le CA The Prostitute who spent four nights with Mitchell and heard the shots that killed him they picked her up in the early hours of the morning and made South for tintagel house away from Scotland Yard in an unmarked car and she knew enough about London to know that when she came out over lber Bridge she should have turned left and she turned right so she was convinced that my officers were members of the kraan that had come to pick her up terrified she opened the door of the car that she was in and ran to the parit trying to throw herself over into the river before she was dragged back and the reason that she did that was although this was 2 years later she was still terrified because she had been told don't forget wherever you are in the world we will find you and if you open your mouth you'll be dead and so that threat still applied as far as she was concerned she was still terrified to the extent that she would throw herself out of a moving car the Mitchell trial was the third murder charge the C had faced at the Old Bailey the Twins were already serving life sentences for killing Cornell and mcvi it was a confusing trial there was no body no forensic evidence to speak of and the crime was nearly 3 years old what's more the principal prosecution witness was a member of the cray gang foreman and the CRS flatly denied all knowledge of Mitchell's murder and the jury acquitted them I went to the trial with my sister but my sister went up on the dock as you call it and I set in the back and as she said her piece like you know she BR forward she she spare the cries and called them pigs we thought they should have been found guilty we was all upset do you feel you've had justice no we've not had justice Frank is still missing we don't know where he is we've never been able to bury Frankie The Craze and Foreman got away with murder because the jury faced an impossible Choice which villain to believe Albert donu in the witness box was a member of the firm who had originally been charged with Mitchell's murder Freddy Foreman in the dock was only identified as the Killer by donu who to believe is still a puzzle and you delivered him to the van in which he was shot dead and then Foreman's gang allowed you to walk away and that's pretty compelling evidence that you knew what was going to happen well yeah it might seem that way but uh on the other end it could be could take it exactly the opposite way how's so that I didn't know but I've been involved so that was it I got to keep your mouth shut you know which is the way the twins work practically all their murders were done openly in front of witnesses did Albert Donahue know that there was a plan to kill Frank Mitchell yeah well he know that that was going to happen whether it was then and there or 10 minutes or half an hour later you know that was the the outcome if I had known I could have gone missing or something like that you know or been late could have cocked it up anyway you know I could have said I couldn't separate him from the girl bring the girl out they go oh they don't want to double double job so they'd have probably backed out and a million things I could have done to stop it had I known so you believed that he was going to the country on that night yeah I assumed that sometime later he probably would go would you have gone driving to the country with Alfie jard and Freddy Foreman in a van without Windows no no well there's always the element of um someone doing the talking and which in this case is the only reason that the truth was found out when you look at uh the position that El donu was in he was actually charged with the murder I and asked to take it on board and and put his hands up to it he can't ask anybody to do that nobody is going to put his hands up to a murder he's not committed even though he may be an accessary to the fact I don't blame him I just think that he could have done it done it differently and he he all he need to said to have said was that he he took him to the back of a van with the engine running and light shine and he and open the door and he climbed in and he shut the door and walked away gahu was sentenced to 2 years for aiding Mitchell's escape and released on time served the CRA and Foreman went to jail because of other murders but it left a bitter aftertaste for those Seeking Justice for Frank MIT this was the one that I wanted a conviction on because I must during the course of that investigation found sympathy for Mitchell because of his situation because of the life that he'd LED and and I wanted desperately and badly a conviction and I was very disappointed because I believed and still do that donu was telling the truth this film shot by nippa Reed shows the cra's final sight of the outside world as they were driven up the M1 to start their life sentences for Frank Mitchell there was no justice even in death but the investigation of his murder destroyed the underworld alliance between the craze and Freddy Foreman that partnership made the gangland of the 60s unique and its downfall stifled the growth of organized crime the murder of Mitchell was the first really big uh charge that we made and that was the Breakthrough and once we got that one and that started off and it began to roll and we wiped everybody up there and all the whole of the gang and Freddy Foreman were IM mesed in this big sweep and then people started to crack a little bit so in that sense yes Frank Mitchell did get his revenge because he he uh you could say quite quite convincingly was the man that started it all off and and caused the destruction of the cray [Music] Empire [Music] [Music] a [Music] [Music] thank you for watching if you enjoyed the video please join our Facebook group it's called Praise crime Lords of London we're a friendly moderated group with over 1,000 cray and other celebrated gangster videos available for view there's also thousands 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Length: 49min 22sec (2962 seconds)

Published: Wed Feb 07 2024