The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 670 | Burnt Muffins

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being good he hey talking to the micu talking to the mic robbed Marley she was with she was she was with the step Marley she with some some other the Marley they don't acknowledge stop that's a friend stop stop wait you were supposed to go to that too oh let me put my headphones on and lotion my ankles first of all you got to pull your mic first all you got to pull the mic up why y hold it down while the tell to pull an how about that why here with your apricot scrub to put on your ankles this got pomegranate Pomade on his ankles what the is wrong with you so you put to go that's the Pod lotion I didn't bring that that's what is that right there Joe Malone Joe Malone I know Joe Malone pomegranate something something exactly Pomegranate Noir exactly that's what I said all right is what's up with you I'm good don't play today I want to how you feeling is she better is called me this morning try to call out while I'm taking a NP I did not try to call biget he's lying you lying how you know what I'm doing I was taking a I'm talking about you lying as I'm trying to call out I wasn't trying to call imagine my face right after I no my phone go I'm like look at is good thing I already that would try to ruin my I like a good oh my God lot of piece of quiet in this no for real I like a good sh my best thoughts off during the facts and that's the only time I'm doing any bending exercises yo all right what B I guess yeah all right whatever weird start weird way well y'all can talk let me figure out what I'm doing over here on the intro vies I got I got to do something to give my people a alive how are you you look good I'm well yourself like you lost a fight at the construction site but it look good it just mad at me because I surpassed him in the Pod dressing in the Pod dressing why would I be mad at you though because I'm the one that brought it to your attention you didn't know that's fine it's not even possible why would I be mad at you really Snappy no I'm saying why would I yeah let me let tell the audience hey I'm so glad you here y'all missed you audience don't try to throw me in that no no you're a traitor don't try he audience I'm letting y'all know ish and Ice they not playing little Snappy today I ice might have got the best sleep ever on that mattress I pre-production you wasn't playing today going lie you not playing today I do that every time I come in here and I sit down until it's time to work stop wasting energy for free no no no it's not that I come here and sit here and chill you were Snappy today I wasn't Snappy is that I'm watching that couch today you wanted me to kick something's back in and I said I don't do that that's not true we that's not true that is true that's not true let me let me introduce it introduce it we was talking about docs m i I told Joe that Mel is up in the dock Joe said no you said Mel is up in our dock war war yes Mel admitted defeat and said no Joe was up and you said Joe was up then I said yo ice what about you and docs you said I don't watch docs no it actually started a little bit before that talking about the Millie vanill dock yes and he was like did you did y'all see it I was like nah man I a watch that like that so then I asked you I said I you don't watch docs I said they don't do it for me like I'll watch a doc and it get boring and next thing you know I'm looking for my phone or something or I'm trying to find something else to do or I'm going to sleep like they just don't do it for me then Joe said you should come on here and on docks and I said no I'm not going to on stuff I don't like because it don't it don't go well I said the last time time I shited on something I don't like y'all jumped me and I talking about afro beats so no there's no point in me on docs if I don't like it I just don't talk about y docs you do that I'm with you I like I'm not saying docs that is not for me that is what do you think about we about that Crocker I wasn't here no but what he just how he you do you did y'all not go I swear I will turn this up I turn this up today y'all stop playing with me what are you talking did you hear what he said about he does look listen to what calm down he say yo did you hear Hees he doesn't want just said something he said a 40 minutes of dock which part you want me to comment on how do you feel of his explanation of not speaking about or on docks on camera he doesn't as he related it to us on him about the afro thank you now you give me some clarification on what you want me look who Snappy look who Snappy look who Snappy oh he to me like you sck I'm CL you talk to me like you stop talking to me like you 100% healthy you are not you what's going on hey yo yo yo I ain't going to hold you ever since you put that on your neck you came in here a little Snapp that's what it is I let you live I wasn't going to say nothing I wasn't going to say nothing but now you want to jump up and do all this hey dog the CH don't make you a thug ass my eyes I mean you a rapper and the chain don't make you a Thum word where take that chain from still from you know he keep talk oh not my God not my can't believe it yeah that was a chain you was working on huh you ain't a gangsta rapper niggaer you rap about introspect what hey a I'm talking to audience hey when when my crew abandons me I get to y'all second audience I don't like that we had a perfect opportunity to jump is just now everybody skipped it and now I'm getting jumped yes how did that happen try to get us to jump ice first no y'all let that that he just said Ry that that Millie vanil came up organically it did it did it did it did it did it was that is not the same as his afrob be tweet it is that came up organically too uh the same way I was sitting in the barber shop and it was planted it came up organically but docs isn't like culture like afro go let's go depending on who you look at there's doc culture that people that listen to Doc yeah I'm at work we started say hi to people man hey what's up fellas in young lady what's up what's going on with you no that's man young uh listen I was going to call you this morning because you don't I ain't even heard from you since you got that since you got that pig back to New York well I told you I was going to bring you and some of your friends some but it's still frozen in my freezer no BR look for to something on Tuesday that's the perfect place for us to stay yeah shut shut up big place three for in yeah right yeah just for in he not he not going to be 5% of that day it's cool yeah I know I know I know listen I just called to find out if you if you got your bag back oh pop that bag is never coming back no damn no I took my ass up there to legia yesterday though I went up there yeah sure enough did what happened and you came back home and said I wasn't going there expecting to get my bag no you stay nice and calm too so what's the conversation the conversation there was I walked in and said all right it was three of them sitting here I said who wants this nightmare long story short they want they brought some supervisor out it was no urgency she talking about yeah protocol is we have to wait 5 days and then you could submit a foul I said no no no ma'am we doing way more than submitting a foul I'm pressing charges and I want the person that stole my bag identified so please go get the police so we can fill out the report and we can start looking at cameras because this is not urgent y'all are not deal with this with uh urgency right yeah I want that person lose their job okay the person that stole that bag yeah I want them going but what happens after the five days then then what happens no they look at the cameras now they looking the cameras I had the Poli no no they was lying before mess up cuz I was going to borrow that bag too yeah cool kiss the bag goodbye it's fine someone someone needed it more than me yeah your pops but all right I'm G call you later B all right y'all enjoy the showy ice I'm mad at you man I'm mad at you ice me too what I do me too no I'm mad at you ice man to me he got me listening to the same 10 songs on my podcast you ain't called me you ain't call you call me directly it gets fixed right away none of them is Pump It Up that's messed up all right buddy all right that's your time you later man you later call me Pap see you see where it come from oh gosh it's funny little fake charm fake Charisma it's my man though we going to have a good day today for sure we going to have a good day today absolutely I forgot what we was talking about y' was jumping y'all we talking about your chain took three month to get all in my chain yeah gold all in my watch I remember when you first talked about that chain too you was reluctant to buy it now it look like you're not reluctant anymore you done bought the piece it's heavy it matches your wrist yes show us man who the you think you are coming to here like that that big ass chain you try to be all humble that's not humble he he really not though that's why he keep jumping up face going A that sh that like it's not a choker that come Downer it's not a choker don't hide it and it got the same size diamonds that it had what is it called they bigger oh oh let me check let me check yeah yeah yeah yeah check yeah check that you ain't coming those not bagett either F can you girl grab me a water please out of there oh my son is different my son playing different no Flip Flip Flip Flip look at the clasp on it can you give me just something to drink can you sit down know what I want to talk to you about though what's happy happy to see you called out sick right I did you get a lot of work done when you sick what did I get done M mad work say it a lot of shows lot of shows when you sick what type of shows you almost even get more work done when you sick I mean you got that's a skill right there boy you you got you got to work on your sick days not come to work but you got to work on your si days got you okay no but I was say I had a fever and you know shout out to you you told me just to get better then I got better you got hot you got cold real quick no it's hot doing all that content like sometimes when the phone is doing too much content it over you got to cool down yeah yeah a lot of I be uploading be old yo nigas love that old line yo I hate that line do like that line This Old this old we got we got to broadcast it dude you know what I'm saying yeah yeah yeah I mean no the two old violators is the ones that want to move on now you see it right good point yes hey Ice I don't want no smoke with you today bro what where's the cord to this thing where's the cord at man come on let me don't break it again man but that's good you bro that mean that means that you look like she ready for the weekend yeah she is she is ready to go some things to do you leaving again huh Ma huh are you leaving yes yes my suitcases are in the back wait straight straight wait straight to the airport wait you came here with yourit with your luggage I did is the dog here no she is at the sitters oh the sitters yeah so she might actually get a meal or two oh I don't think she should be able to make that that's a little up good comeback that's pretty dope the dog get a meal while you get to go be a meal mhm I hope Hey Big M stop playing with us out you know the vibe you know what type of we on we come to work with our bags andir tagged up air taged up huh straight from work hard out today uh Hey You patreon by yourself 33b oh no no I think I'm going to be able to do patreon too ice my bad oh 33b not in 33b she's in she's not in 33b what are you in 17 2 yeah no she she picked on she bought up she bought a ticket oh she look so you know you get to pick your own she didn't buy her ticket she didn't buy her ticket no she bought her ticket she okay she shot at you don't speak for black women from come on I'm protecting her don't speak for black women she independent you bought wait yeah throw your hands up at me yo can we just admit right now and then quickly move on that it's got you right now well what come on don't start your don't you don't you said she's independent get into it I I mean I am I am independent but I did not buy my own ticket you oh it's convenient Independence no no this is work related oh cuz you going to get worked out that's not work rated leave alone that is not work rated n n n it's a p thing I actually have a a gig uh yes I have some respon some some work responsibilities shout out the mail get to the bag that's it get in the bag stay in your bag trying trying trying trying to catch up with you trying to wear a chain like that yes trying to get like you big dog trying to get like you big dog I had your hands I cut mine off big dog got I I don't like when Mel get down with y' little joke I don't I don't like that so what are we about to play are we going to play the Shaft theme song no rest in peace rest in peace rest in peace Richard round rest in peace Richard Round Tree Legend goat mhm shaft one in the greatest smooth as you know what I mean come on you don't think that that would just set things off right for a Friday Saturday ask your fellow cast members what do you guys think sha he just played Reservoir Dogs a couple days ago so I mean okay go all in my chain go all of my R don't believe me was that your version of asking a question and answering it for our listening audience yes it was nobody can go against Mel so you know what I'm saying we just fig out y'all got her figured out all that weaponizing Womanhood get that the out of here we don't rock with that shout out man what you got que up I'm we're not starting with uh the theme from the shaft okay and uh we like 30 minutes in what you starting with I love this SP uh do I have some inspiration don't I'll stop looking at me man y talk inspiration let see if I got some inspiration for us man some inspiration start us out right oh let me get off a mail page we'll talk about that oh let me get off a big mail page free the nip right oh I didn't even know I wasn't even trying to like Instagram showing nipples I hate when I hate when people try to get ahead of the joke I hate when people try to get ahead of the joke oh sorry well I mean that that's why I'm going stop telling y'all my good jokes uh behind the scenes then y'all come on a try to jump in front of it you can't jump in front of a car crash don't do that oh don't do that okay fine all right let's see here being Weir the night like being weird but I don't uh dislike it enough to listen to the edited versions of songs I just don't those songs stink they're not I mean when every other word is bleeped out it just kind of up the whole tempo of the song at that point it doesn't even feel like authentic country music [Laughter] yo shout out to all the jbp fans that's traveling right now where I bump into a lot of y'all in the airports y'all want to stop me while I'm trying to buy the newspaper talk to me about your favorite podcast your got stolen they distracted you no my got stolen cuz a from Delta took my off of the little belt and went to his car with it I need they going laguadia going to have to prove to me that that bag ever was there they talking about it was scanned yeah I know when you got to the airport it got scanned in h it got scanned into New York that was one of the stories so wait hold on one second did you when you checked in did you check in um curbside or were you did you go into the airport I don't do anything on the curb oh God you want me to stand outside in the rigid cold that's priority though and those are the people that want the tip you have to have cash on you got to have cash yeah do you tip them do yes I yes absolutely how much depends on how many bags I have but usually with one bag I give them like $10 if I have like two bags I give shout out to you Ma okay that's generous of you don't lie on the Airways I'm not lying that's that's what IP they be listening no that's what I tip okay I believe you good thing yeah but no what was in that all you know all his was in there like BGA this and Ugg that and cologne yeah that lady in there talking about what was in the bag I start name some clothes yeah but did you have like any Electronics in their bag I'm like ma' ma'am what the clothes I'm naming you are more than the electronics just just continue to write please and a Priceless family heirlooms that was in there oh yeah I gave him some of that too yeah that was in there it's cool though man uh listen sh G max out at a th000 I don't know what's going to happen somebody going to go to jail though I know that I'm going to sleep better at night but you know what I'm I'm I'm blessed I'm going to start this part soon but I'm blessed enough to really not be too bothered by whatever's happening with the bag that's good like that's the that's the important part CU it's it's just material stuff yeah it's internal peace bag is gone you lose some clothes whop you like what what you want to do about it man nothing you can do that's it no you can sit in your house tight about it you was tight s y was mad about it you mad I got my refund so I'm not I got resolution in my problem oh good good this is uh episode 670 that's right welcome to episode 670 p is right there in front of you now but I do it cuz that's how I Envision Mel when she get around her little Brownstone Brooklyn people you think she does the drops I think she does all that word on the curb goofy walk going and I think it works and I think it works in that crew I think she definitely hit him with a h yeah it don't really hit in this grw but when she get around her other people call they say it back they definitely do I feel like they do call and respond to holl back younging I think yeah I was about I was about to say I even think they do the two-way [Laughter] part let's go H back that came on in the hookah spot the other day I started getting mad I start getting depressed why cuz f a Fel beat for his second single the is you talking about and a rick Rock beat for his first single and a timberin Beat for his third single that's why that's hate yeah I was hating I can't hear none of them slaps man I start getting mad that was going though I remember that sh 03 I remember SC coming coming to the blocking Queens yo I'm sitting there trying to work on something he told yo Fab got a Cru Banger you know how to feel as an artist you in the studio trying to come up with some come to you with his second single rolling go to Ceda blocker put holes in I had just did a Blocker in on my song Hit the same my blocker was so trash that ghetto F Ro through cheaters I was just in cheaters oh man fam all right man uh listen Positive Vibes positive energy we feel great hopefully y'all do too out there a lot of uh non important stuff to get TOS uh where do y'all want to start with any of it I don't want to start with the Millie vanil doc because none of y'all really only one that's I watch it par okay Park and the doc goddess right I know you saw it I did not and you were there what forly Vil if I was there you were there okay yes yes yes like I can see flip not watching it because he wasn't there wait hold on first of all did you see how shocked she was she thought that you exposed something be careful she said what you caught me didn't C you man maybe she was more there than we thought she was you do look like that brown skinn dude what okay look that listen that trend is about to end right now saying I look like men okay that it's that's over and I want to tell is that they were both brown skinned no they wasn't one of them was super lightskinned one of them was lightskinned what are you talking about see I think that's brown I think that's brown you think is is brown no I think that the lightskinn people that really differentiate between shades of brown think ass hint the colorism H bro what what are you talking about bro one of them was like what am I you lightskinned so I'm not brown see and that's my point and that's my point no it's just lightskinn what's Joe uh caramel caramel butter PE [Laughter] straight nutc hating on my butter PE disgusting I I just have a question real quick um is why do a lot of light-skinned people when they watch porn they look for interracial porn because you said that and somebody else my home girl cinnamon said that from Au you doing the most is that what you talking about with cinnamon he know what I'm just saying cuz she watch interracial porn she said it and I said yo it said the same thing like is that a thing do y'all like want to relate find somebody to relate to I don't know what the other light-skinned people watching their bedroom flip but if you watch you watch inter watch all por but you said one of your but your main thing though the with the star when you press the star on top of the tab is in I just wanted to know my fault my fault about it man you watch intercial por too yes like is it something do you want to see no oh no I'm not like I'm not a porn Watcher okay salute yeah she wanted to make sure yeah I'm not watch all right okay yeah let let the bus pass I almost jumped on the bus I'm learning from y'all cuz usually I would have just right on that bus4 lot like I don't see color we're all the same in the '90s it was a lot of like I don't see color I going to start with por start equally but now so obsessed with everyone's differences like you flip through HBO Max it's all these categories trans stories strong black women Asian culture like hey HBO I know you're trying to be Progressive but porn's been doing this for 30 years you're never going to out inclusive porn all these networks patting themselves on the back we have a gay section porn's like yeah we have a gay senior citizen dwarf in a wheelchair section not more open-minded us right I mean talk about representation I've been watching Asian culture since high school HBO was like well we have a family section porn's like yeah we got that and step family come right be funny funny I'm sorry I won't interrupt yall again with point that was good just a thought and meor hey yo dog you just knew right where to go on your phone and get that I thought that same thing in my head like damn how did he yeah how do he just have that clip at the ready yeah do you have sections too in your notes almost like I Sav things that might be entertaining or compelling for the audience no but you knew exactly like within a split second where to go get that scr yeah I know you nice bro all right all right was nice all right I hate when he tried to be humble yeah don't don't be humble I'm humble no you're not get the out of here I am humble that chain says different stop you know I'm humble don't do that he tucks it he trying to be that could mean two things I'm humble that could mean two things fo scared or oh that could mean two things I got to be on point today you get a little fre you get a little freaky PX I'm freaky So when you say when you say he tucks it are you talking about the chain yes oh oh my God you disgusting CH he doesn't tuck his chain he outside that was you can square up what you thought the alternative was today what you thought I'm not going to say it and I'm not going to disrespect the Hair W so you I'm feeling the white Howard too big to be doing that he doing okay I'm not off of that how tall he is doing this you can't be that but it's really nobody been you got to be submissive you got to really no be humble he not humble he not humble anyway Dwight tired of y'all yes I'm you're not humble but and and you just hung out with old man so you feel like I can see the little energy like slow down today I'm chilling man okay I SAR you hang out why you post that picture I wanted to you don't care about like people's beliefs right no no but I didn't post it without you know consent can you guys let us in on what you're talking about uh this will spill the te won't he yeah I know you sitting there looking like that's what I'm saying who what what you suppos with what and we talking about we we talk n n so militant still right like he they ain't don't eat no meat no no meat what else that say that nigga's like a robot that ordered a a a bagel with avoc like some stupid I'm like what do you he made me feel away I had to get a a whole wheat bread with eggs and turkey turkey and turkey bacon cuz like I'm like you getting the avocado on a bagel with lettuce what the is that so now I had to order some like I don't want to eat no pork in front of this this my man haven't seen him in a long time but you know shout out to him shout out to nitty man the nitty ordering some pineapple juice some at the bar you know you look around he like there a couple little things in here man don't play I I back in my day I used to get a pen in a napkin don't let I slide right my little slide it over it was good it was it was good it was good see oh man real good to see him shout out shout out to nitty man uh we not we have to start with Dwight we don't have to start with Caesar's insta live we should start with that Caesar hey I don't know what type of time you want I don't know if you have a bedroom we got to tell the audience Cesar went on Insta live and he he resurfaced after you know nobody seen him since all of this been going yeah and he he went on Instagram and he addressed everyone I kind of like that and everything boy it was Prime Time Entertainment for me that was good it was entertaining yeah it was he should have been he could he if he do that every week I'm I'm tuned in and and Caesar if you want a platform oh I knew it was coming I knew it was coming hey think this through if at any point you want to share your story oh my gracious now let me tell y'all why that's really phony Nory called me this morning like y' I need some brother brother advice I like hey I'm here for you man say CES like you know what I mean might want to I said oh you get that you out of here that's what we all waiting for said you going to kill that he said Yeah man cuz this is why he said you know other platforms not really with Envy but my you know I'm say yeah now that makes sense n you should reach out to him I was putting on my pants for work could jump in front of that hey in the area hey you can get it done without that Florida flight no I'm joking man N I want to see Cs on drink Champs I'm talking I rather see him on drink Champs I want to see him on drink Champs do go anywhere I want to see him anywhere yeah he just got s on it was entertaining he just big as hell mad nooks and crannies on F man yo fat explaining is funny that will never not be funny he was humble what not what so come on let's get to it Cesar Caesar went on there he's holding mvy down yeah he is yes he is that that was the big takeaway is that he's holding Envy down I thought it was pretty funny when he was like uh en was everybody's a victim now nobody was an investor Envy was my partner and he invested but but now everybody now he said yo the the lawyer sound like a that nigga's not a victim oh yeah with the he said he said that part he said that part yeah he said that part so he didn't hold him down well he hold him down hel him down and saying that he was it sound like he's holding Envy down but he don't agree with the route that Envy's attorney is taking true so it sort of hold that H it sounds like a sort of hold down he's excluding him from being in the room when he Mak he he excluded him from like saying he ain't steal nobody bread or he not responsible for he said Envy didn't steal nothing or giving nobody money back did he say he stole anything no no he apologized to some so admission he didn't say well yeah and he didn't say he stole nothing but what he when he did go on a little rent he was like and now when I'm out eating little Steakhouse or whatever people are people are thinking that that's coming from stolen victim's money every time I'm going to get some ice cream in the street Tom oh that's the victim's money my daughter is going out for like I was successful before that's what he said look at is look at is it's DM that DM that line this what you got to say it's just talking him through it scam coach scam therapist ass don't do that but anyway while he was saying that while I laughed I was like okay but that says that there's victim's money somewhere but he did say you saying I'm not spending the victim's money cuz I was successful before okay then where's the victim's money he did say he messed up he did say that you know he may have to pay some people back and he said he'll deal with it when this day comes he said he standing 10 toes in that huh whatever I did I will be held responsible I'm go if I go to jail I do my time and that and then I'll come back to the scammer money still that was talking crazy yeah he said I'm going to come back and get right back to it I was like oh that can be interpreted a few ways they sure can and they and they watching it too go all of my CH I I don't I just don't get doing them videos when you got chargers spended man got I don't get that you playing against you playing with the feds they got Instagram too I I I think uh I was driving home and like 70 was sending me the live like dog why y'all calling me to tell me this allive I don't know this you know why I don't know why he follows you on Instagram tell me I'm lying what does that have to do with swear to God swear to God CES don't follow you on Instagram swe god let's let's play swear to God swear to God swear to God CES don't follow you on Instagram okay he does and he just recently started following you too what's your point we just we just playing a game oh sh you going to holl at is yo why you don't want to play swear to God I don't have to do that to tell swear to God you don't want none of his doors is she opportunity when he sees one I figured is out I figured ish out and ises my man so I don't want to expose him all ears go ahead I'm giving you the you listen I went home and had to try to figure out why you won't just you know really get to it get and I figured it out get to coming in here and lending your real estate expertise to what may or may not really be going on I have done that I don't think you've done it to the best of your ability no you you just want me to be dirty in that not dirty wow wow yeah I I have done that it's a it's a it's a small community I have I have given my opinion on what took place okay I know you said that that on several platforms go when I went home I I received that but that when I went home it wasn't acceptable to me the thing a little bit more that's the thing when I go home I get to Think Through some of the that be happening so I was like hm how why could this be happening and then jinkies then what was jinkies that's cool Caesar is going to have to liquidate like for the next 17 years fire cell oh yeah all 2000 doors everything's going down and at some point he going to need some funds some point being that go all of my and when he does there may be someone else in that field with a couple dollars that likes doors that likes [Music] doors now if that were to happen are you swear to God that you won't be turn that person away never never what please be clear I would not turn that away okay if I had an opportunity to pick up a deal I'm I'm taking a deal talk about it there we go same but that's that's it that's not got nothing fam that's not them muffins crunchy ass muff that's not why I'm not um speaking on them business like that do you guys have mutual friends nah not that I know of okay I'm saying again we both from New Jersey and the real estate Community is kind of small yes so I'm sure somewhere along the lines we got some cross com yeah I never cross pathed with him I never did no business with with him but I'm sure in this in this small communityall brothers so when he followed you it was and and maybe he'll be at the the real estate mixer next year maybe when he followed you it didn't it didn't mean anything right oh he just followed me did you get little excited I don't know okay with that first DM get some of them do I first D he getting some of them doors we've never dm' each other be careful man F watching did you follow him back no okay why not I don't know M why you don't follow the guys oh my you we a going to let him just get off get that off no you still don't follow us do you follow me no there okay you don't follow Mel no should we do this all right now I'm not following Mel cuz you don't follow me oh see ah it's a standoff that's yeah that's Petty it is back to what what were you saying he said he ain't follow Cesar cuz he don't know him that's your reason oh yeah so you don't follow anybody that you don't know it's I follow I follow is is under the weather I never seen muffins get burnt back to back stop playing my man look at me is is a retired Street he knows what's going on he said y you ain't going to have the fence looking at my do you hot right now F grease I might block you stay over my page out dming me and like that the street he saw that follow he said hold up he St at that for like 3 hours and the got some heat on them trying y I can give you some other people over there too trying to stop with me to me feds don't play son words that's the only part that the live don't make it the feds don't play they don't but he ain't say nothing on that live that was inting going no he didn't bro I think I think I was entertained by the L when I watched this live to me that was telling the truth he said a lot of that sounded like yo I did some but it's a bunch of other out here that's doing some yeah that's jumping on the band that doesn't mean you're no I ain't say he was I said it just sound like he told the truth like you know when you uh I don't even want to bringing my bell you good now like you know certain you real good hey hey it's we got to be dog hey they going ring your bell ring your bell he got nervous yo that start texting somebody he start texting his lawyer oh is you crazy all right come pick it in say they got us yeah we got it we got it is we got to an idiot yo are there any Tak any other takeaways from Caesar's live other than he's holding NB down and he has no problem going to due to time that's what I took from it I took that he's trying to preserve a relationship so when he comes home he could you know hen I held you down you know I mean he could still have that Gateway that door open running back yeah respect and maybe Envy no no Envy really ain't do anything and you know yeah okay so cesa Pizza Pizza salute Caesar man what a piece of you a piece of I ain't going to lie to you man you didn't laugh at all when you watch that yeah I laugh but I I have a warped sense of humor like if I'm if I'm laughing it ain't right something ain't something is not right all right seemed like y'all all tapped out of the envy and Caesar conversation H yeah kind of we kind of are all right it's cool it's cool what else is going on what else is happening in the wonderful world of this world is shot to it really it's really shot of it's bad out there I don't want I don't want to get sad I'm trying not to look at because like you said you get sad start thinking about up going on in the world man I mean Dwight Howard man he's standing in his you know what I'm saying um literally he's standing literally I mean I just I feel a little it feels a little strange um why not his sexuality you know that's on him but Park's ready to get you look set you the the story was crazy to me you know what I mean you met a man on Instagram and then when you met up to have sex you try to try to run a train on a yo you try to bring another person that's what happened you try to bring another try to introduce another person without the without the guy's knowledge like yo hey yo big dog um here go another big dog we go we going have a k we take some P yo the you can't do that you can't do that you can't just that's a train you can't just surprisingly try to run a train that's not necessarily a train what that G I almost want to ask Mel to leave the room if you're going to get are you sure you good with have had it go ahead let first off this is it's wrong to do that to have someone pop out unbeknown to you surprise hey po the clet for that's wrong it is absolutely wrong you cannot do that but them popping out the closet don't necessarily mean a train is about to happen it's ay three yeah those are the options yeah or somebody's doing the Voyer thing that's true or somebody's doing the voy thing watch got it there are there those to me are the three options that can come from the pop out pause yeah more ways in one a train the orgy threesome whatever they doing or theism listen those are the three things the said he was uncomfortable he ain't know he ain't leave oh is he alleging that he couldn't leave though you victim blame me you blame me can you answer him please I just want he to answer no I'm not no I'm not good answer so you acknowledge that he's a victim no no I'm not I don't know what took place in that room uh my man could be out here trying to get some bread that's very different from he didn't leave I feel you you know what I'm saying I mean Dwight Howard I mean I get it you standing in your pause and on top of that you letting the people know to mind their business but it gets a little tricky when you involve a third party into a situation that the guy that you were sleeping with didn't know I love 's commentary on this mace was like this it's not consensual if it's a surprise yes you surpris it hey yo hey yo big do hey hold on stay right here lay right here I got something for you he probably thought you was going to throw bread on him you brought a whole another in the room he bought a bun y you on a roll speaking speaking of buns that is hilarious come on get all y out the way now no why you got to do do that man damn Joe you took wet on our this is different bro I have a few questions for the LGBT q i a plus community community I do okay go ahead up the ledge man we have the ledge oh it been around it been a while man ledge on them yeah it's been a while it's been a while man it I thought about this I thought about this one long and hard if I wanted to come in the top speaking of things being long and hard he's stand right in it [Music] pause what is going on hey Rock the best opening line to the he going to play the game okay salute cuz why you won't chill out pars won't chill out all right that's all that's all to go around no oh my God come on man man the thought T place up to Hey listen the community I have to ask y'all why do y'all act like there's nobody in y'all community that could be doing a shady scammy stickup and hiding it behind all of the gay right true this Shady what's his name Kitty I do I'm not going to call him that that's an no Kitty's not kitty the other person Kitty is the white friend okay okay thaty was the dude that popped out yeah person yeah yes person sorry yeah but this dude is Shady Dwight 100% well 99 let me not try to get sued Dwight definitely hit dude on the late night we done did these calls before yo come through I'm having a friend come through he said that so what so the pop out is not really a surprise cuz I told you that somebody was coming through the door at some point this is all Joe Buton speculation by the way no then when when we first covered the DM when they released the DM was in there the dude that's alleging that Dwight sexually abused him that was in the DMS it was so I told you I told you somebody was coming through here granted you didn't know the exact time that they were coming through the door but it's not a total shocker we get freaky on this side it sound like I'm hitting the people that understand that we get freaky on this side mhm we haven't explained that when your girl want to go through your phone yo dog I'm talking to the people that understand that we get freaky on this side yo I ain't talking to normal people we get [Music] freaky so he called his freak Circle and that showed up like The Freaks do with overnight bag he came right there he ain't waste no time this look it it does I mean when you look at it all together it does look like the dude is trying to pull it he's pulling a move pull a fast one we're going to move yeah now that's not to say that Dwight Howard has not done something egregious at some point I don't know his sexual history there are other people with the same claims that hey this guy targets young guys at sex parties that's out there that's out there that's in the world I I never heard that he's got another victim that that he's got another alleged he's got another alleged victim that says hey when I told this story y'all laughed at me but Kitty was involved in my story too and they and he exposed whatever he exposed so he's saying that Dwight and kitty are a tag team we get freaky together two Wong Fu so Dwight is on a press run for something I don't know what he's on a press run for I was going to ask like what is is it just a press run in defense of himself just saying that they these know what's up when he rolling up and it's strange because he's literally go ahead man let's give a live hand cluff Dwight now you're going viral bro when podcasters say now so I just got to just got to ask for the people me personally I don't give a and when they qualify with their opinion before the question are you g bro is this what you want to talk about no I don't want to talk about that bro why we talk because you went viral off of that bro viral for a lot of things and and I want to talk about that too and what my what I do in my personal life is nobody business thank you that I just want you to answer that I keep going it's nobody it's Nobody Business right and if you inquiring why why cuz just I was just expl let me oh not for me not for me I don't give a bro I want to talk basketball I want to talk other but they going to say PR you just didn't do your job this is part of the job the part of the job right people you know what I'm saying this stupid I don't give a really let's talk about something else I ain't going to hold you y'all lucky that Dwight not aggressive that's a dangerous question to ask that's that I wouldn't asked that question to him I would asked that to someone shorter than him small 100% jacked yeah somebody that ain't been doing three man weeds for 30 years I my less ask those type questions you did oh Bro three man weed know what I'm saying yo yeah I'm good give and go that was a mistake yeah or give and keep cuz he a let him go get a dunk at the end a come on come on just you can't ask those questions man I learned my lesson from asking a question like that on the podcast and I lost a situation I'm saying you that's the only reason he's up there I agree but you ask somebody I thought what team is he on he on like the Shanghai uh Warriors seagulls or some exactly the war cats I was never really down with somebody pop out of the closet culture that's a weird one that was a thing in the 90s it was especially with the Dickinson High School girls it was Freaks huh what's pop out the closet Port have some do with like have someone waiting yeah have somebody surprise oh that Clos like that yeah it's weird that was a thing yeah that was a thing it was had your man waai in the closet he's watching yeah and I wasn't the guy that I got invited to maybe two trains and they never invited me again to the train hug or something the train cuddle with her did you leave or you became the induct the conductor the train was a difficult concept to grasp for me in my teenage years a lot of things that men learn about sex from other men were that was tough for me to grab pause grass young like you know how men get peer pressured into just maybe being over sexualized too soon how you treat a woman or how you view a woman or you know the amount of bodies you get that does something for you some of that stuff in my teenage years that never resonated with me what was the hardest thing to unlearn about sex well I didn't learn some of that I didn't learn stuff mhm um but what was like an ideal that was like kind of pushed on you as young men that you were that as as adult you're like no that was some got whole one culture the another thing is um like careful no like beating it up is just the greatest thing in the world and a lot of women don't like that no we but as young men we learn that like yo when they screaming and you them real real hard we not to that that that that is good like you learn that from the street we didn't really know about like pleasuring another person's body that's not necessarily what yeah so some women do like that but not a lot of women don't like that yeah the main thing was everybody different yeah that's really what it was like what worked for her might not work for her like you think all right yeah I know I got it now then you go do it over here get in tune with them as far as the train I didn't understand them trying to make me be the last man hey fam that was in the first train the first train I had to pull my like dude friends to the side hold on hold on on let's let's go back to the first train first come on made you be the were you the last man like did you go through with it no okay I went in there and talked to the girl I I you did I know you did and did you ask her how she felt about the whole situation yeah do this man come get up that that should have had enough like I'm fine like I Ain you ain't this big ain't about to get me hard nowhere like that's the thing they were so excited for this big frea looking this was a big girl [Music] nothing wrong with that but that was that wasn't my bag at 15 big girls like I could go get a good-looking girl why we in here all huddled up in my mom's damn my mom might not even know about that oh like we don't have to do that and then the next train they because they knew about the last train they try to make me be first and no I don't want to you coming in after after I get my little Groove I know no and they was trying to rush me I went in there first but I start talking a little bit start talking start talking I started talking you better shut you get say nothing to me about talking y you get to it I got in there and start talking they up trying to get to know her yo how long you need I had to crushed your eyes out too that's not cool bro when you 15 16 you do a lot of dumb just cuz you heard it was cool to do you do a lot of stupid just for experience I've never been Lear Fun Train I I never was with the train culture period like I'm just I don't like the share truthfully cool with it I want mine unless we going to share be making love you be kissing them and all that it a't want to switch when we used to do our thing you bugging that's y bro don't start your bro it's cool you don't you try to eradicate it from your past you try to be this distinguished author you're not you're not dis disting don't try it with me do that with the new people I ain't want to switch that's your cuffing ass cuffy Combs yeah don't start don't start you say that again I'm a bazooka your burn you I'mma burn your muffin you can't know how I know you lying why cuz you oh that's going to sound that's going to sound Shady I'm going fry you up trying to find a way that know too much about each other I'm you up that's what this podcast is supposed to be built off of but people come here and try to work on their new brand I'mma fry you up that's all people come in is one thing and then when it's time they get they get here and suddenly become brand conscience spell that yeah Dam that's a tough one you want do to spelling be that's a tough one I didn't do to spell and be last time of course because I was doing the words but y'all would have to have words for me if we redo the spelling me Melissa Melissa conscientious is I have to say something let be me up guys guys I have to say something something as one of I give it a shot though don't try me hold up I have to say something I put it into my fold right Co n right mhm now it has what the shein sheen is normally a SC I can't even spellow trying to that's the proper uh ohito eyes wrong the eyes wrong oh you say I'm done from here right now yeah right there you can spell it conscientious yeah Oh I thought you were saying like you knew he spelled something wrong or something no no no he he he good I'm right so far c o n s c i yanes that sounds like e n conscientes I'm done after the the chenes you moving the ches the other part that's easy at the end s c i e n c C no no SC no two sc's is weird T oh I'm out of here t t o u s no t i o u s oh okay yeah all right we will not be doing the spelling if you got to be one of the bees th wait but I but I tell y'all listen I want to spelling be 24 and 96 why the do y'all keep doing that bro I want to say Sor what the I no I want to talk from the loser that got kicked out of the train cuz I gave a a hickey oh yeah I wanted to get that out cuz I know going to attack me online like when you ran to train with us you was kissing that in the mouth and give a hickey oh I was the loser that did that bro we got some yeah you kissed her on the mouth like mid train and you gave her hickey where was you at in the train she was fire where was you at in the order I was like third oh I don't give a I was a loser man dicks on the neck and you just I gave her hickey the can't I got to ask you a question sure the was fire Flames where did you give her hickey at on her neck can I ask you a question sure why you sucking on the train girl neck she she was too bad H I ain't mad at that she was too bad to be there I'm mad at the tongue kissing though not a tongue kisser you just said I was kissing in the mouth kiss in the mouth you ain't kiss on her neck and not try to put your tongue in you're lying you did not go like this no you didn't ly out here no you didn't I don't give a I did it so no you didn't I was a freak what she was piping them first I yeah my telling the truth and know what's nasty about you too like you was giving hickeys on the neck and I know you tried to work your fat ass way up and you started sucking on her jaw jaw line I wasn't fact that ass I wasn't fat you tried to suck on her chin before you got to her mouth to point your tongue up from my chin you was in there giving therapy during during this session get out of here that's my bag that is my came out your flip you gave my of hickey yes I did flip spell luscious wait hold that was somebody chck I think so spell luscious spell luscious I don't know how to spell you don't know how to spell luscious no try Don't Call Him stupid I never h you come on stop I don't know I don't you're you're part I don't want to spell luscious all right spell Coe Dwight cut that freak out man cut that out you was too tall to be doing that that you're doing and it's crazy biting his fingernails and all that extra he was doing the Antics he doing a lot what I think he be I think those shots be at you not you but at the Pod what shots no no that's to every he don't hear everyone he hear they be hear when it come to Joe it seem like the the podcast word gets out faster than all them comments what' he say no he it was like a Tik Tok that he did or something like that where he's sitting at a keyboard in a closet and because there's a lot of shoes behind him and stuff and he said the caption said something about um how people expect me to be responding to the comments and he's like banging on the key the haters the haters in the comments Sor thank you and he's like banging on the keyboard and kind of bugging out you know and it was sped up and so um yeah I don't think that that was two podcasters that might I think it was just I think it's everybody he said a couple of things too he did a video on the stairs like yo where I put my dick at or what I do is nobody's business he was saying a couple of he did a couple of Tik tocks and reals and then went on a podcast and then went on a podcast yes yeah to express himself tell his truth and then the internet is finding all the old videos of Dwight Howard on the bit on on on the on NBA benches tugging on dicks and they crotch oh come on man Joe that's that's enough no no that's true he shouldn't have been doing that on NBA benches he was oning some wild like he was he was horny on the bench that wait wait what it's videos a dude walking over to sit down on the bench and like it's a player sitting right next to him he reach and grab his meat Paws while he's sitting down what are you talking about come on man I'm not making that up yeah you know he not making that up cuz that's what we all would do if we was gay in the NBA no yes it is what we would do that is exactly what you do if you was gay grab them by the dick but y crucified Trump when he said grab them by the but it's okay for this to do that hey yo dog if I'm straight and we sitting on a bench and you just got 30 and you came over and grabbed my dick I'mma punch you eyeball what position do you play what position do you play what if you not straight oh stumped huh yeah what just run around grabbing penises bro on the if I was in the NBA I would be gay thug I would be a gay thug come here come on I'm walking you over to the jacuzzi what and I will pronounce that the jacuzzi oh hey hey come walk me to the jacuzzi real quick like do I walk some of these in the private spot out the camera's view right come on you know gay thugs I be the gay thugging these s some gay don't post me up bro God okay the Newark boys look perturbed right now which if you know the history of new no hey y you good I want to tell you about the history of nework so bad man tell me Joe made up a history of nework oh so he made it up he did one of his shits again yeah get serious absolutely no he did don't start your bro it's the male strip club capital of the world right definitely of New Jersey 1,000% the strip male strip club capital of New Jersey underground I don't know of no male strip clubs in just two weeks ago all of us here said we know we have friends male strippers that are friends those male strippers are from where that was Irv same that ain't helping your case oh this guy a dut case man none of my them was getting money getting Mone they was getting money I don't know why y'all act like it wasn't a thing I know a few of them they was getting money some went to high school with me they was getting money money I know some of them male stripper that had a 10 15y year run they was getting money of packing out whatever the normal strip clubs did during the pandemic they've been doing that since 99 well under spot underground spot that don't nobody know about is not promoted my Lusty ass baby mama at the time any time we used to have a fight back in 2000 she H9 that was her bad she she was older than me that's where you learned your behavior from now it's coming out that's that therapy a't that what they get down to the bottom you don't believe in therapy don't do that ain't that what they do to y'all you don't believe in therapy until we start talking about Dad's up here I don't believe in little lipar quivering I don't believe in it then come on man that's the farthest thing for my bag then that little eye that little Hazel eye get oh man that's the farthest thing from my bag like that I'm lying we start talking about father that be like I don't need none of that bro that's the farthest thing from my bag therapy is ass that's for no now you want now you want act like you I'm far the thing from my man stop the funny thing is the that believe in therapy still be up what is it doing for y'all doing the work what work what work I'm not all these that believe ice he's willing to just step out in the ledge and on therapy he won't even shoot a do sh on a dock y'all be up even more still going that fact if you hey if you can say one thing out there to the people in therapy what would you say get your money back wow you heard it first right scam that's a scam I'm asking you therapy is a scam but not what CES are doing yo yo you are a special Cas this about to get nasty why you let my man say that what I'm not that's my man he can say what he want he can say what he want that's my you too smart for therapy everybody not as smart as you is you want to go in there and tell ENT off the therapist you was arguing with yours I always argue M you can't you can't just tell me anything we have to sort through it I know we got to sort through it together yeah and that's a debate team tactic right I learned that from you argue the other side to the therapist so why would I not to the therapist how do I how do I shift through how do I filter through if she knows what if she or he knows what they talking about if I don't try to debunk some of that the therapist me up when they was like Hey you beat your kids that's from slavery I was like oh let me go back to school them degrees is beating me now no they ain't they won they won that one that was the the one I lost wait what what did they say about to turn up say it again run that back one more time does anybody want to help me he said the therapist said beating your kids stems from slavery get your money back what get your money back what do you you don't you don't agree with that you don't believe not at all not at all not at all I don't agree with that I do believe in you know spanking your child of your child so where did we learn that where did we learn to beat people into obedience well so let me ask you a question well I wasn't I wasn't a slave so I have to you know my my grandparents my great black elitism let me ask you question I was no I wouldn't know where we learned I just learned it from my mom and she probably learned it from her mom and I learned it from my dad like like that if you you to go back so know where you end up at so the white people that beat their kids or the people that beat their kids prior to slavery yeah or the slave masters where they learned it from in the castle oh y' I I don't know if y'all would be in serious or this sounds so silly that it sounds rhetorical to me are you asking me where the slave masters learned to beat people when King Richard when King Richard punched King Joseph in the face like sometimes you need to use physical violence or physic physical force force in order to encourage obedience exactly all to teach a a lesson that's what you're saying yes sometimes a need to get slapped bow he be trying to set up go he said that I know he did you you don't agree with me sometimes you don't agree hey hung girl dads no but it's a little bit different with your daughter I was I was asking this a little bit different with your daughter tricky they do it's a little bit different oh we getting tricky it does get it does get different with girls when you have when you have girl children that you know are you going to beat your kid into into being obedient no I no not until being not beat them into being Obed I'm not ask question I don't have kids I didn't beat my daughter not why I'm not ask no let me ask you my question just was I've never beat my kids before before slavery when people used to beat their kids then what was it based on uh well first you have to prove to me that people were beating their kids before slavery come on Joe you ever read a book from the 1500s here we go no and there was slavery before the American slave trade too so it's wait you heard that ass little off this don't work no I read none of them Mal malol brogen books you read you ever read a book from the 1500s what would I do that I had my whole life from the says the that walked in here try to give therapy to the how did you get how did you get that book what liberry you went to Shakespeare books was before slavery it's mad books that was out before slavery yeah you could tell Shakespeare was white he's a reader I don't know so you was reading the books but you don't know if he's white no there there's people that say said he's black literally yeah there is so you didn't read any other book like you didn't go further than that I'm asking what you talking about F I gave you an example of books that was written before slavery yeah but I want to know more about the author William Shakespeare so you just read from anybody but big dog was Shakespeare white or black oh well don't know I'm not reading no book from him oh you only read Black Books no I want to know about the person publishing the words really if they were for sure for sure why what do you mean why cuz people can't just say words who is you so the therapist can say whatever they want no we started this with I Tred to debunk the therapist I know I'm consistent so why would I go give some money to a that you don't know their history you don't know who the therapist and what they walk of life was prior to giving them a dollar but you could find out everyone should find a therapist that's compatible with them you don't know that they compatible with you based on their degrees you have to speak to people or you have to do your due diligence the same way I'm asking you is Shakespeare how do we know the therapist is going to tell the truth yeah like What was Shakespeare's favorite hobbies I don't know favorite color he was around the but how you know was he a ho was he faithful I don't know was he abusive don't know I'm not just taking the people the the messenger matters more than the message what if he put in some profound and what he writing but because you don't know his history or his background you message that discounts the message no the message is always important okay message is always important right after you get to the message I want to know more about the to Center all right but you just dismissed when he say muin man yeah just cracked cracked he hit you with the icicles he hit you with the icicles throw them icicles at that he tapped you out all right we done with the white how what else is popping what else is popping out here you up huh you said what the white going to you up for what talking to him like that he he watched I mean he watched but I didn't disrespect the I mean I just feel like man I agree with him whatever happens in his bedroom is his bedroom but when you out here doing salacious activities and trying to incorporate kitties or cats in the you know in a room where somebody don't know I wish that would say something to me say something else I'll go to go to the trunk I'll go to the trunk oh you know some more get that uncircumcised yo I'll go right to the trunk yo you got that in your truck why is that in TR I'll have it if he say something that's that's rare I Happ if he say I'm going to get I'm going to get the strap I'm going to get the strap and you're not talking about the hammer not at all he could be talking about the hammer I a talking about the hammer there's going to be some banging going on going to going be some banging going wait wait wait let him get away with this Sal I'm ignoring him you want to take it from him what you I ain't going to fight that that say he going to get the strap on yo what are you up here talk about while I'm up here you gave me your word what are you doing oh man yo this guy is crazy you want to talk music you want to talk Halloween music or Halloween pick Halloween Halloween talk what you going to be for Halloween um since you're sexier than us might as well ask might as well ask you you already freed the nipple on your Instagram page so we and we know you outside and and your co-host made it bigger what I had we we enlarged the picture I had to see if you was bugging like that J listen what happened I'll show you I did not know no no let Melissa tell I did not know I was wearing a tank top at an event and I didn't know that you could see kind of see my nibbles if you're not wearing a braier well yeah it didn't really work with the outfit but also like there was a lot of flashes going on so um so you you flash back me I just flashback yeah so what are you going to be for Halloween so is that a part of your brand now oh my God free the nipple free the listen I wasn't I wasn't thinking about it anyways going to get that Fenty deal yeah yo how do y'all respond uh any time your girl was putting some clothes on and asked you y is this see through like can you can you see through this oh that happened to yall yeah my girl did that the other day I said take that off she's like no I can wear it without the bra right I said let me see she put on take that I will go burn that right now let's go but she put the put the bra on and put the shirt back on and went out now would that be considered insecure or just laying the law down no that would beo take that off and the you know what it's it's no hold on let me answer the question yeah it's an understanding that we have that's what it is no I respect that I almost had an insecure moment I went to go look at the place not you I almost had and the was looking at my wife's ass and I turned around I saw him and he was staring and for about 4 seconds I said flip get it together she got you know whatever her hanging you have to respect it I looked at Jr and I calm down I wanted to slap fire you looking at my wife like that I'm right here stupid what the are you you doing you don't want a wife you don't respond well when that happens no I mean see I like that yeah you don't want a wife that people want to look at hold on listen listen you can look but staring is two different things stare all day n not what I'm right there you don't you st staring like this if you're not staring it's like I walk by with something muddy word if you're not staring NE yeah what did what did I even I got to break up with her n I'm break I got some M now yeah damn M I thought you was still turnning head look look look the re the reversal Brothers not me not me not me not me you can look cuz of course cuz you know we all look and you can look but was standing you talking to the staring why you right there it's a level of dis it's a level I know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying like of course I'm I'm happy it's a level of disrespect if you take it that way if you took a didn't you yo Jo I get you I'll crack I'll crack your head the same that came in here and said you want to fight the in thank you my the same that came in here and said you wanted to fight the in Dr he was looking too long der you what exactly what happened in Dr remind me you said the was being disrespectful by staring at your chick to the point where it got disrespectful you want to up oh I'm bding I love that you're not though I'm Bing Joe come on Joe don't do that I love I'm telling you I love that I'm a c so why you talking to a you not a c okay I'm not a cuck you're not a telling me who I am all right continue you're a cuckle now look now look weiring now what we talking are you paring you telling the truth cuz you like you remember I don't remember what it's just talking about but that sounds like pardon to me I wouldn't give a you said that them were staring you went on the person yeah and you said they were staring at sh person and homeboy was doing to like and you said normally I don't really care I like that but he was going too far oh he might have went too far yeah what what his the was too long I don't is it time is a time frame for the Ste if you standing listen if you standing and talking to a uhuh or standing in the vicinity having a conversation staring staring at your wife's ass in front of you or your Shorty at some point you like all right I'm flatter and good looking but turn your face y talking he just staring at her no it's like I'm talking to a about the place he's like he's like where you at okay my wife standing there like trying to listen and he's look we all in the conversation ass oh yeah no but I you know now what I don't like that now what you just said you love that I said I like when you st but if you're if I'm talking to you we having a you what I could talk I could chew B way to do it see I don't like it's just so ideal I hate him in these kind of talks not I hate you in the talks where where there is a little bit of gray area what you saying is true and what me and Ice are saying could be true it could be that with the ster but there is is a there is a level where it's foul but if you had a situation where you had the same complaint don't just PA to get at me at your man understand what the I'm saying and my son is De so I said when I looked at Jr I don't want to think of my father acting like a sucker I had to but in my mind I'm like y this is crazy so did you get the house you ain't jumping me and Jay all jumped a couple of but not him no you can't no you can't jump him for that oh man you found a new real got get you a nice Father's Day gift what a dad yeah put me in a TR fighting people with your saved them a few times exactly when I did well he should stopped fighting when I did if your son has to continuously save you from the your fighting days should be behind no no no no no that's not fight more that's not how it goes don't fight again if that's not how it goes stop paying a narrative we'll jump you how it goes is that when I did a skit in KFC and the put you in a choke no I punched the in the face and some came from behind put me CH Cod and brought me out so I started to cover my face and then he let me go randomly I turn around I see Jr breathing I'm like oh yes I got some help yeah I want to let the last that jump me it didn't go well they lost oh talking salute salute I heard that story falling on the floor your man got hurt though he not here he not here right now what we got and they'll use that against him if we tell that story and that don't mean I'll win again like sh I want to run it back yeah not at all good leave it at that I'm going lose the run back uh what else what else what else Halloween costumes um I'm still debating good job M I don't know I'm still debating you want a rush to leave like when she's so precise like that and pay she never answer so fast back when that luggage get in there and the dog get to the Halloween so you know the history who was the director of Halloween you know Jamie Lee Curtis developed Alzheimer's like yo and Halloween was was always different in Toronto versus LA right like I was in like we don't care that's hate first of all you you going to be Catwoman have you ever you like give me the C you let me the Catwoman type yeah no that's a good idea you can't be Catwoman that that would require makeup what the what Yo Joe what the are you doing I'm saying it what shut up right exactly um think I'm thinking storm maybe from X-Men okay which one har Barry sorry I didn't be say be word h i feel like only hie played storm right no it was two storms it was another storm later on but that doesn't matter so you're going to be the Halle Berry storm you you getting it short wig with the cut maybe I don't know still still working it out you still trying to get the deal with hie like cuz you know you defending her with the Slime so you still try I know your tricks you start doing every with you got Angle now you want to refence it for Aly my you going out for Halloween weekend right m to Atlanta no I'm just saying you're going out Halloween weekend while you out wait you flying to Atlanta she is yes yes sir can I get my Thrills you know you want more so you just so happen to be flying to Atlanta for work on the weekend that everyone and their mom is flying to Atlanta it's I swear it's a coincidence people ATA yeah everybody I didn't know what's going on Atlanta one Music Festival what rugs party oh rugs birthday party that's true rugs party it's rugs birthday party know hey rugs happy birthday happy birthday R we love you yeah but that's what's happening I done been on the phone with all types of street legend that's getting their best outfit that's going to get their jewelry that's driving getting their cars I've spoken the mad girls leaving Friday and Saturday morning this is an event rug's birthday party is an event I was just invited that you wouldn't be happen to be going there right no you sure y heard it y heard it right yeah I just want make sure it wasn't me my headphones waser tripping she is mix man you going man you going to rug party godam big Festival out there this week when every you mix why are you so mixy I am not mixing you outside mix outside I'm hurt I'm not Mixie I did listen oh I got stuff to do that's it that's all that's all work right you zy Marley them no I'm not going with Ziggy Marley No all right mixy ma mix is mixy what's up y'all want to talk uh y'all want to talk music we can we didn't get too much on Halloween I mean the costumes what are yall doing for Halloween I don't have anything planned mhm but you know Parks is right it's going to be be 80° this weekend they are out they going to be outside I got to go out there and represent faithful black men of America right and and at least look at look at the creative artists that's what it's all about and what they put on yeah just appreciating um creativity yeah that too yeah make up to make up the naughty nurses and some of this some of this got to be retired though okay what what costumes what costumes need to be retired I think the Velma got to go theel I say no am is going to be very vot against that I saw the Velma costume as the the spirit the other day be right when they got titties VMA be right I I I'm just saying how costum is the same thing every year you see though certain ones ain't the same body well no cuz she got it done it's going to be a lot of Barbies this year a lot lot of Barbies I'm over yeah I'm already over I haven't seen it yet Barbie I'm over Taylor Swift probably go up yeah oh yeah it's definitely going to be some Taylor in uh Travis couple costumes what they going bu some stilts no I was asking no they going buy Jersey Travis oh how they going to do her yeah blonde wig can black people do white face on Halloween good question I'm asking a question I'm not making a joke yes I've never seen that in my life but but can can I can I do white face and not be judged you seen white face you're going to be judged you like a mime but yeah you seen white face is you can't talk White Chicks the movie there you go Dave Chappelle's done white face a couple times never seen Delle done white face yeah I don't think yeah I think they could get it off cuz not really uh can I be a clan member for Halloween yes I was one before so you can I don't that one I don't know not make it back into the next that one why it's Halloween everything is fake yeah no so so so when everything is fake you can't pretend to be a racist but when everything is real we'll totally allow the racist I'm just W I'm just asking for clarity I I don't I don't know how it worked but I just think being a CL member going to go well in I think that I think anytime knowing you're a clan member I wouldn't do that because you know black but just want to ask Halloween is fun clan Halloween is a Crocker well yes it is it is it's a Crocker but it's also a fun crock of it is a fun COC um the KKK not so much fun Hitler not Vibe killer what party you're at well that's true we've seen we've seen you know some people pictures surface from years ago where they did that in college had a at a costume party went with a Clans member or as blackface all that type of stuff and you see what happens today so I don't know I want to go to the party where the chicks would buy is that I just want to go to want go to hoes going to be naked naked as in very very oh my God if you if you guys want to see some like that you go to La for Halloween that is their favorite favorite holiday that is where New York too though New York goes crazy New York go crazy no New York goes crazy but in La it is a different level of like naked women in the streets like it's typically 70 80 nice little bar crawl yeah bar hopping mhm that's that's my plan yeah that's how you do it I'm outside it was very a lot always a lot of fun you want to talk music yeah we can get to it um what dropped Brent fir dropped Brent did that's all that I well did y hear a br album yeah let's start with Brent uh I listen to it the production is great Brent sounds like Brit which is some people's cup of tea some people's not cup of tea but uh it sounds like a Vibe I'm pretty sure the um young ladies will be listening to it heavily loud and drunk singing like him and it's going to be a Vibe it's going to be a Vibe yeah I listened to it um that's kind of the same thing I took away like this album just seemed Vibe it's uh it's a lot of like it sounded like throwback Timlin beats it's not Timlin producing but it's not no oh I thought I thought it was yeah and he's on the intro talking yeah and then you got Missy on the record I'm thinking okay this is a VA thing they it sounds like their old production yeah but it's not but they bed it you heard the lies album wastel yeah yeah yeah it's better than that it's too early for me yeah too early and they're kind of different Vibes this one's more I don't want to say mix tapey but I'm going to say mix tapy this feels like I don't want to call them throwaways cuz that's disrespectful to a person that puts an album out but this does feel like I didn't go in trying to make a studio album this was like my my my B level or C Level what was the space of time in between this album and the last one Wasteland year and a half maybe something like that I'm not mad at the album I know people what I've learned about Brent is you either going to love him or hate him true and and that's kind of when he drops the people that hate him are going to hate him for the same reason they hated the last project the one before that the one before that the one before that and the people that love him are going to love him love it the same way they love the last projects true indeed he's kind of his his fan base or the reception of him is split it's like polarizing one side love him one side hate him and they stay there true anybody else I didn't hear it I haven't had a chance to hear it either you gentlemen I hit the uh you know I'm not buying a Bren album but I did I did hit the sample so I could hear what he was doing um I want the mature word to like leave uh music critique so I'm trying to but I see how he has matured as an artist artist okay like that's what I take from it sounds like he listened to some of the critiques that people had of him and he is trying to visibly improve right like last last project I was like the beats are very airy for what he's doing so it highlights where the vocal might go off and these beats don't seem Airy at all to me like you said it sounds like there's some timbering for real I don't I didn't check the credits but I thought it was the Beats I I love the Beats on the project and he sounds like that off key note that off Note it sounds like he's attempting to do it a lot less so I'll say I can hear some growth from Project to project in the Snippets that I've heard from Brent but two projects ago you like I don't like any Brent project none I thought you like the one I'm not a guy I'm not a Brent guy really I'm not a I'm I'm I'm I like him as a person and his business model but musically I I tap out understand what it's not for me cuz I think like I think that that he does he does on purpose now I think so too I think so too like whatever he he picks Stranges strange Melodies I don't even know if it's off key as much as it's just strange Melody choices it's both it may be both abstract maybe yeah but it's it's hard to describe it's hard to describe but I do think it far as well for people want to like turn up and sing along yeah like he's definitely curated an incredible fan base in audience off of what he does so I I appreciate when you have the fan base and you still trying to you still trying to improve that's what it sounds like to me like his core audience might not like the project maybe yeah I'm noticing a lot of that too core audiences are not really feeling when the um when the artist tries to deviates a little bit Yeah but even if it's it's not a full deviation it's just let me try something a little different it's still in line with what I do maybe a different type of production or maybe I'm flowing a little differently but the subject matter stays the same the core fans is like no we don't want that but it's like if I keep making the same thing over and over and over I'm going to hit a ceiling at some point M this with ASAP sound hard I ain't going to lie I was going to play that SLE go ahead yo rappers out there I got to tell y'all I'm tired of y'all on song now I'm not talking about him even though is coming from what I just heard I'm tired of you rappers getting on songs talking about please don't my friend like it sound like y'all be heart y'all be heartbroken and distraught when the girl you like your friend especially if they're a rapper or an athlete that hurt and it's supposed to hurt but don't get on the song and start sounding hurt please don't my friend please don't my friend you keep them to yourself is oh man that song's a hard though and he went off shout out to the Brent fans out there shout out to Bren hiive yeah shout out to Bren hiive I'm sure they're pleased who was that singing on it uh I'm not sure who the other artist is something like New York La yeah I'm not familiar who that is with with the three like I really like the Brent songs when another artist comes on and Koko Jones done this one she killed it love Coco Jones go Brent yeah go Brent go Brent anyone else drop anything I didn't have too much time get the Brent you know what I mean my guy my guy hold up I Ain have to much time my man came out hey wait a minute hey wow that's up fire brand new Destin Conrad came out a little surprise sneaky album I do miss albums coming out on Tuesday we've said that before Tyler the uh Creator recently echoed it I do miss Tuesday albums I think that'll bring back album it will help to bring back projects M right you you may be more inclined to listen to an album Tuesday Wednesday Thursday th that's true then Friday Saturday Sunday true yeah weekends are for the Bops only by the time the weekend come I want to I want to know the songs I like I don't want album Cuts I don't want to figure it out I don't want to figure it out on the weekend I don't Destin con came out this is fire she it's fire name of the album is submissive you seen Shaq Shaq jumped on Shaq and Kobe and Dame and Dame I did I wanted to finish myad before I get to Shaquille o' Nee um so Destin Conrad has like some dudes on his album cover and I don't know if these are like figurines but they're like musclebound figurines the name of the the project is submissive and on some of this it sound like he is in his bag I don't know his other songs were were tough to figure that out this album it sound like he ain't hiding he ain't hiding kitty kitty coming yeah what what is what's up yo just asking is what is that me I don't understand the question you said he has a muscle bound figurines on his album yeah the name of it is submissive and on some of these freestyles he's no longer saying her like on some of the music he's saying him if he dub my call okay if he if he don't come through Kitty come yes Kitty's coming okay that's what you're saying thank you it's a really perverse joke to me you talking but this is tough this is St it's a good album that don't that don't that don't change how the music sounds for me with him now that other dude Steve Lacy or these other gay dudes that seem like they hanging their entire campaign on I'm gay I'm gay I'm gay I'm gay I don't want to hear none of that I don't want to hear it the music still got to be good first before we get into what you're doing by the time Frank Ocean started talking that in that album it didn't matter sound good oh oh it's a he talking about um also also also stupid yeah I Ain have much time to get the Brent Cherry 22 dropped okay CH hxr R y22 that's the weekends artist come on man that sound like hard right there come on man come on man that's hard come on man I'm rolling with that one come on man freak freak freaky ho come on man yeah shout out to Brent but two of my people that I that I with came out so yeah this Cherry 22 and this Destin Conrad is cool I don't know what else came out music it was kind of a quiet week it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't a ton Ace Hood dropped project oh I do like that Ace Hood project he got some on there I do like that Ace Hood project Benny is on there Benny Benny you're working hard shout to you working hard established artist to underground artist independent artist you going you making your name be felt out here and we going to critique you out of here you rapping too much and too good and shut the up stop repping for the bad rappers don't use your good rapper uh Equity to rep for the that we going to trash I'mma trash every one of them whack nothing you can do about it you fire though that boy that boy is good no question no he good good no that boy is good seen an old interview of uh Chris Reeves Chris reev Superman okay Christopher re Christopher Reese Christopher Reese rest in peace uh basically going hard at Marlin Brando he worked on a movie together he was like no man he fell off he don't he's not in love with this it was on Letterman like in the 80s or whatever it was and I was like look there's a star actor white people critique of a a legend on a super legend and no one bad than I had it in today's society that would all over the Internet that would have been everywhere think piece is about every think piece that's true damn I don't have the clip but uh Tyler the water she did chemel K it yeah out of here she's out here M I think they were tagging that as her first US performance oh well out of here that girl that girl is gone facts she looked great great great mhm great she looked great her voice sounded amazing live the dancers were great what a first impression yeah what a first impression no wonder tank sat his ass at the piano star and that's how you know somebody out of here when tank sit at the piano start singing their song and make me swear he killed that that that that song I don't think it's leaving no time soon way way it's just getting started over here inter see what I will say don't come in here enough well I don't let me not speak let me speak for myself I don't come in here enough and say when I appreciate Tik Tock culture and Instagram real culture for breaking music for me and it's happened quite a bit mhm so like we always talk about the negatives from the 30 second clips and just artists Pander into that culture but when it's done correctly and you bump into like a joint joint yeah yeah that's what it's for absolutely so that song broke on Tik Tok yes yeah and I like when Tik Tok coaches do it like how they did for um Chris Brown's Under the Influence that record was four years old dropped as a as a track on the deluxe Al Tik Tok got a hold of it it shot up the charts next thing you know he he has a hit on his hands he went and shot a video all for a four-year-old song yep like yeah I don't think there's anything wrong with Tik Tok and real culture the problem I guess becomes when it um is forced upon artists and creators to like when you CH tick tock song make it for this or make maybe they're not good at making content and they're being forced to make content and they just want to make Bops or the times when it's yo Implement something in here that we can make a challenge out of or a dance out of like now your music suffer because you're chasing the Tik Tok Instagram real how about we just go back to the days where the artist makes the dope artist and other people figure out how to make it pop exactly you know what I'm saying like my issue you know my issue is with the music business incentivizing artists to make the shorter records or the records there was a lot of 90c songs on the Brent project yeah there was and you know my beef used to be that hey you are conditioning fans to get used to a new concept of song right almost like in interlude length records but my beef a with the fans and the artists they just acques to music industry standards which is hey these artists want to get paid now so now they're going to trick around they're going to trick they're going to play with the numbers and the rules and the songs and the amount of songs and the length it could be like I miss a good 13 track album of songs I agree but that my favorite part of the album for me used to be to go to somebody's track list and identify what the longest song was right 5 minutes 7 minutes minutes 6 minutes see now sometimes that was the last track on the album they don't even have the attention span for that now majority of the I don't see I don't like that some of that is C because some of the greatest some of the greatest mtown hits were 2 minutes long like that is not it's not a new I'm talking about I'm talking about people today that's like yo I don't want to listen to the same thing for that long that's all I'm just saying the attention now I want to hear something else that gets me back to and then I'm so done with Drake but that gets back to my standoff with Drake if you are an artist forget Drake if you are an artist at some point you just have to dictate uhhuh it's not about what the fans want to hear it's not about what the industry IND standard is if you an artist at some point you should be in your room or wherever you create and some janky should hit your brain be like I got to get at a shot or if you one of them yeah if you one of them you could you you can move keep saying y'all be putting that on people not necessarily knowing if they want that pressure some people want to take the easy route like yo let me stick the course do this and I could go them walk into the artist Club so it's not like we putting that pressure on them you walked into artist Club you are an artist you don't think all and we don't want to let's not stay on Drake but you don't think at some point if you just I left Drake I wouldn't even I'm talking about him if you look at his career his his uh then he fell off I'm not saying fell off I'm just saying at some point you can't I can pinpoint it I'm asking other the rest of you you can pinpoint where it went from I'm trying to craft projects to I'm trying to make a collection of songs to just get played that everybody's just going to like so I was like playlist I'm not making albums I'm making playlists and that's what a lot of these people are doing I want to make short songs that can get repetitive spins I'm playing a streaming game I want to make something that you like you like you like you like you like you like everybody different I'm playing a different game because the game changed he's not playing a different game because he's trying to sell music he's trying to sell music with a different business model different business model I'm trying to how can I say it no it's the same well adhering to the changing it's different when I had to make an album and y'all had to go to the stores and buy it ice I'm not going that far back I'm going I'm going back far back that was far back when you had to go to the store and buy out that's two decades ago I'm going the last decade last decade not just that you can make a quality project that pleases this person this person this person this person this person yeah I'm tired of artist copout yo it's too many cop outs from artist yo if you is trash just come out and say you trash if you tried to sell some low effort just come out and say it Uzi every day on on socials now for the past five days saying everything but I put out some trash yo I was unable to do what I normally do cuz I didn't experience enough life I didn't live yo I wasn't in my right State of Mind last project all that that I came in here and said hey yo dog why is he coming in here two days after his project drop and on the project to drop you slapping me in the face so now now to get the fans back on your side before your next project you got to explain to us all this that don't really matter cuz the music was mid too many artists dropping mid most of y'all are mid agreed most of y'all are M more than that's it but tired of trying to explain explain it come in here and have some thesis as to why y'all are M you know they Ruttle I went number one Uzi went number one with me that's not a rebuttal to that is their rebuttal but I'm saying that's their rebuttal like yes I am it you take it as me but guess what it's still char did what I needed it to do okay but they too stupid to know that that is not rebutting what is being said Artistry and the music business are not the same conversation and and they keep getting inflated we don't we rarely come in here and with sound scan and numbers and chart we don't do that they do that's what I'm trying to tell you that's what they care about that's you because you're passionate about this you want Artistry a lot of these is want to chase hits I just want to put numbers on the board and if I could do it low effort bang bang bang bang bang every time I'm going to do it it's working the powers that be the company that pays me all of these all happy the only person that's not is the purist that is caring about the Artistry the artist stop stop stop stop stop don't call me a purist or I don't like I don't do that I'm just saying purist that still care about the art the people that like art are not a purist true and if that's the case then we need a new word for what y'all of the are well well take the word take the word take the word purist out but that's what I'm saying though y'all are the ones who care about the Artistry I don't think half these give a about being an artist today but the problem is they're called artists calling them call so I'm not talking about I I don't give a enough about enough of these to get into their psychology right like I don't know what how they consider theel what their goals are what what they trying to do all I know is when y'all sign on the dotted line you are an artist what you think they consider themselves us acts and what you saying and exactly what you saying is exactly my problem with the Millie vanil doc now we get to it let's get to it now we get to it this it this is the conversation with the Millie vanil doc if you're unfamiliar Millie vanil is a uh were two dancers they were a Duo they weren't a Duo well no they became a Duo yeah they were they were two dancers that yes that met somewhere Frank faran or whatever the producer's name that had huge success with uh another group that was a little karaoke is and I think it was B money or M money whatever they tell you in the dark what the group was but they was lit in that club dance scene he put them together he found some real singers and some real rappers to do the music and they was just out there Li lip syncing yeah they weren singing they wasn't doing now they put out an album in Germany or wherever where they were singing okay but when Arista got it you know and Frank faran got it he put his little touch on it and took them off took them off the credits they not there and they went on to sell like 6 s million records they would they won a Grammy they won mad Awards but the Grammy is what jammed them up it was cuz that was Artistry uhhuh artist was it also that they had to perform there no what jammed them up honestly was the success from watching the dock right they kind of outlined it the Su success got to them we're now we're we're popping we're lit Paul McCartney wants to meet you I we'll get to that later that we're popping we're at the party Paul yeah they don't even know who Paul McCartney is they didn't give a about Paul and then the producer you know wants him to do whatever whatever now that we want to do it like this the producer said all right that ain't need them I'm going to come out with a press press release and say that wasn't them singing on this album at all wasn't it that they wasn't it that they they performed somewhere because it was like a track they performed and they were storing the vocals in the keyboard M and at one of the shows uh when they were on tour the keyboard kept repeating blame it on the blame it on the blame it on the and they ran off the stage yes but why this is relevant to our conversation I remember that of course you do this was the biggest this was the biggest thing in music how they tore these two gentlemen down the light-skinned brother Rob ended up he he died from mental health and just he he was he had enough substance abuse a bunch of his whole life was ruined uh the dark skinn brother I don't remember his name but he went on to he had a dark period too but then he got married he had kids but he became a musician as well like he was actually singing I don't know how successful he was but but that was the beauty in the do fa it was Fab and Rob Fab and Rob Fab by the end of the doc Fab is on stage and listen it was a big thing them not being able to sing their songs and the interviews like the press was killing them they was asking him to sing on the spot and they really couldn't sing they sounded bad okay but by the end of the doc Rob was on stage by himself really singing Blame It On The Rain to a crowd of half many people and the the the climac the climax there is oh after all of that that bothered him so much that he really did go put the work in uhuh to learn and he sounded good he was cutting the music off hitting runs he sounded good right but as you watch this to our conversation they got killed and they didn't do nothing wrong mhm yeah they did what most of the music business today that's what the music business today is built on let me find somebody that is attractive and desirable I don't have to care about you actually doing talent because we are going to we're going to fix the talent manufact the talent you know you know what the problem was for them is they were born before autotune was popping and all the technology we have today because a lot of I I would say the fundamental difference about what you're saying is that all these puppet artists we'll call them now at least it's their voice with Millie vanil they literally were not on the record yeah there's a there's a big difference there but had there been an auto currently currently they still use like background vocals they'll keep the the songwriters vocals in there and add on top of it but at least the lead is the person but now we can run it through autotune we can uh fix the timing in Pro Tools or whatever app you're using and make it sound like you actually perform it and maybe over time you'll actually learn how to perform it because here it's all perfect for you gotcha and even live we can run you through autotune and fix up if the music in Industry likes you enough they will provide you with the song absolutely and like I didn't know that Diane Warren wrote Blame It On The Rain yeah it's crazy what I did not know that wow what she's a beast they called Diane Warren for Millie bill and she just happened oh the song I wrote last night it just happened it sounds like it's their perfect second single right their first single it's even in same Cadence girl girl you know it's true Blame It On The Rain we out of here and then sure enough how does Dian Warren always know what's about to be out of here Artistry nothing about that song sounded like Clive Davis Millie vanil like they had the Legends yeah doing this and nobody life was up by Milly bili facts was arer was good I didn't like I didn't like that the producer ratted on them I didn't like that he did F but he like how he talk to him I get it but I it's foul it was foul we see that happen all the time they went on to make necessar producing they made they made they they paid so many people they said how much money they made how much money everybody over $500 million like over $524 million in 1989 yeah they were H pause but I'm just saying when you watch that like I don't really want to have the Artistry conversation today because Millie vanill is what today's music business principles is based off yeah it's a whole bunch of Milly vanil it's a lot of that they'll they they will manufacture everything all you got to do is show up but we'll get you we'll get you to beat we'll for you all that that's a little bit of a cop out because again there was there was a lot of even going back to uh mtown again mtown the songs were written the band was the band best Engineers best studio all that and the person just had to come in and deliver the lead yeah now back then they could deliv the the lead no doubt Le but but I'm just saying that to to say that this is how the entire business is now is not all the way accurate because the people are still delivering a lead and that behind great production and behind great songwriting that everyone is putting together for them and I think that I think there is a slight difference in that it was not their actual vocal that is correct if you are just on current trends and what's going on yes today artists are using their voice if you go to if you try to look at weird this is going there's plenty of artists that say they're not writing Simba's on record saying yo my I cha G GPT this and I change up a couple of words and yada yada y uh we recently had a case where that the the who was that Warner tried to sign the the AI cartoon and have the dude be the voice the black dude and then he came out and was like y y y y so yeah that's where we are cuz humans are still important right but where they're trying to go is yes yeah yes yes that's where they trying to go and that's my point if you are an artist I don't give a if you're 17 years old in your mother's kitchen writing or if you've been the mega successful artist I still think and I'm not an artist so maybe I'm talking out of my ass but I still think that the Artistry should be important to you and I also think that that's a part of the job to try and find out how you can make your Artistry successful right do you have respect for the craft I think that when you and I think that when you diminish the artist piece just for a hit you are doing everybody a disservice I don't think that these whether it be Drake whether it be Kendrick whether it be whoever the they are say yo I don't give a about the art no more I care about the hit I don't think that's true I do think there's a there's a small percentage that care about the art it ain't as big big as it's been I think more of these I think there's a lot of artists today let's say the industry does get to the milil Millie vanil with the AI and all this type of there's today that will sign up to take a bag to be that absolutely but there and there's a lot of them that the artist though yeah I know that's why I said we come up with a different name for them call them an act call them whatever you want unfortunately artist is all you have right now but I think that today A lot of people are putting the money and the notoriety above Artistry if I can get rich and famous yeah like if a pulled me off the street right if I was 25 years old and some dude pulled me off the street and said yo you got to look I want to make you a star uhuh that's a totally different thing than Joe sitting in a Dungy ass room writing that means something to him that's a totally different thing so when you start taking these artists that we know have skills at being an artist and dominate albums down that is disgusting I AG it's a totally different thing bro and you keep conflating the to saying yo I think these artists don't give a about the art no more they care about sales and hits I think that they've been too successful to to make a differentiation between the two they could do both yeah and even if ice even if ice is right that don't excuse it to me yeah don't excuse it I'm not making I'm just giving an alternative as to why they might do it there people that don't give a about that no more I've I've given you classic project giving you hits for de I've given you all of this now let me go chase these records and let me do it this way and let me I got a bunch of other going on now I don't have time to sit and lock in and work on and focus on this the way I used to do easy now I got to take the easier route I got to call in writers I got to call in producers I going take the critique that come along with it well no and you're going to take this short career that's going to come with I was going to say do you guys think see because there's narrow-mindedness that's involved in that yes you get instant gratification and you may see quick results mhm what is that going to do for you I'm sitting here in year 20 whatever of of my career off one song off one record there's a bunch of people out there that say well Joe but that's because you can't make a record let me tell y'all the people anybody you know that can't make a record the industry didn't want them to win because the industry will give you a record they'll give you a record who cares if you can't make a of a lot of people when they get here can't make no record true this mad ask you can't look at what 50 Cent is doing over there with all of these tours non-stop you can't look at what Nas and all these old wuang Yad yada y I don't want to get into that but you can't look at the Run they're having in year 30 year 20 year whatever is in and say hey nothing good could come out of uh uh working on the artistic side or paying attention to the artistic side it's too many as y'all going to be Mims y'all are going to y'all are going to be Ms it's going to be a lot more M than a lot than than 50 cents do you guys think going to be a lot more artist in general but they're incentivizing people to be a man yes right yes and people are signing up to play that game to be yeah no disrespect to Mims but people are voluntarily walking into the door all right cool I'll be it seems like it seems like nobody is attempting to even try to get to like iconic status anymore I think the day and the age the day and age of the icon is kind of dead the musical icon they want be internet icons the musical icon exactly I mean but that's what's in though the internet is up that's what's getting the most spins that's what getting a lot of atten Cav we just sound like old old up here that's really what I think like that yes y'all sound like caveman a little bit has changed up and they playing a newer version of that game switching around is the problem with this they're going to keep switching around and the one thing that will always remain lucrative and um set you aside from everybody else is good songs and good Artistry arti how you that today when the music ain't even selling Ain't making their money from music doing the research these are not making their money today most of them are not making their music money off of Music who's buying the music so they're going to find another way I'm going to get hot and then do this over here I don't have they're not incentivized that's not true you that's still a small small small minority of people too even when you say yo I'mma get hot and use this as a stepping stone it's only 10% of that that bounced off that stepping stone maybe not even 10% so where did they start from look at where they started from if they got hot enough to just go get a deal and I'm talking numbers I know me too I'm talking about you yeah from a numbers perspective if you only got 95% of the getting a popey's deal or 95% of these turning it into a music I mean an acting career or any of that 10 that still shouldn't be your goal right that still shouldn't be your goal only 10% of these turned into a Meg the stallion or to a Tyrese or to a ludicrous that's still and they started with Artistry that pivoted they still good artists and you're not even getting equities in the Popeyes you're not even getting equity in the Popeyes y'all bringing your audience over there and selling Happy Meals stop calling yourself an artist if you in the business of selling Happy Meals we do need another name for if you're not in the business of music then I don't want to call you artist I don't think it's right invent some new for these happy mealers hey y I heard somebody knocking on the door and I just sat down on some lazy and it was my man I heard I say somebody knock to the door if I'm not if I'm not mistaken not you sat down yeah and I was close I was right over there he didn't go confirm if you were mistaken or not about the door and we took a we took we took a little break we took a little break and you went around like collect the food orders I did and you came to me and asked me if I wanted something right I did what did I say you said no my Uber Eats uh I'm low on the food ordering totem pole do you know that on Uber and Uber Eats well I assume it's true for Uber Eats like you have a rating all right your rating might be really low on Uber Eats cuz you started out you you had a spark when you started but now you just garbage when it come to ordering the food like I used to be able to trust the fat in the crew to order some goodies to order some like Sierra goodies last time you trust a fat he he lived off of you hold up huh and he left your crib when you needed him huh flip chill out N Stop chill no when when he gets sensitive and his feelings get hurt he exposed something he tried to get you to stop by exposing something can we take that part out no I don't care but listen No but listen when you order Uber Eats now they go to Connecticut you throw a rock your hand they go to New York and rush hour traffic they eat some of the food before it comes never come they just like n and they keep your money on some tax I ain't going to lie like we order they us said the food that I ordered was garbage yeah you don't order good food no more it's over the best food is when Jr got the Jamaican spot from Harlem and you when you when you was firing me you said yo bro before you leave that was go of fired you a few times he said before you leave you keep coming back got n lives said before you leave y put that that was the most insult yo JR talk about that sh all all the time I tried to fire this he called me the other night talking about yo meet me with nitty outside I was like who you taking it too far dog where you at where yo come come meat up let's have a drink with nitty nah n n nah but yeah man the lady stole my food went all the way what fed the family with it yeah she went to Manhattan that's racist she went to Manhattan with that and we was hey PA we was over here debating like where the she at you know what I'm saying she went all the way to Manhattan she was in Queens and stayed there my point to you ice and I'm getting off this because I am aware that we sound like caveman correct old cavemen too I I acknowledge I acknowledge that I'm not refuting that I think that cavemen are needed I don't think it sound like caveman but that's cuz you a caveman we caveman it's true it's true we older hip-hop is like it's not a older thing it's not for older mature logic some of the pure be like for good reason that's what I'm saying that's my point to Isis argument is if hip hop today continues to be reactionary and we continue to do what in music industry standards incentivizes us to do then we'll never get ahead like hip hop was not born by doing what they wanted us to do AG it wasn't born being reactionary so once the powers that be see that they have you by that grip right Spotify just came out and said hey change the rules yeah change it up things like that happen from us being reactionary what rule did they we already wasn't getting paid from strange they made it so uh uh there's a threshold for they're going to start paying people at basically so if your don't get no streams you're not getting and what was happening was people was uploading like the sound of the rain yeah and as long as it was 31 seconds you could actually receive you can get paid for that like if it was kept getting played see we say people and I'm sure people were doing that but I'm sure Spotify was doing that remember that story about there are millions of artists who have less than one play yeah and that was odd like that's them doing it too because those numbers boast their bottom line as well that's true but now look right now hey whatever that was we was paying you before and now if you don't have that number then you're not getting paid well somebody is still being paid correct y'all don't get to just make in hip-hop it's like you submit that's why I'm so strong in my retirement in hip-hop it's like you just submit to certain things and the hip-hop I come from you'll never get Joe Buton to submit to I agree a th% with you the counter to that is it can be said that a lot of that hip-hop ain't make no money these want to make some money now so they're going to play the game you can make money doing it a different I'm just saying that that that was the AR that's when MC Hammond came out and was making all the money and was dancing and doing everything that that is standard today MH they called him a sellout they called him a clown and they said that that's not hip-hop M because hip-hop then they couldn't even fathom people crossing over Hip Hop was who you sold 10 million that's not okay with us oh you took care of your whole Squad and went bankrupt doing it we laughing at you and clowning you like some of that laughed at in ' 8990 and 91 is what y'all are doing and now y'all are finding excuses and cool ways to justify it it ain't hip-hop dog every single time somebody becomes Mega successful in whatever they doing M we got to demonize that cuz everybody not doing it yo dog in black people business oh that's the Illuminati oh yeah he so Soul like it always got to be something to demonize you for making uh uh uh breaking a ceiling on what was normal M it's always something yeah like MC Hammer was being artistic I'm putting on different pants sequence my shits glitter them shits out so when I move could see make it baggy so the moves accentuated yo find a way to put 100 dancers back here with a horn section just up there bugging Hip Hop was like get the out of here that ain't hip-hop all right so I want to know where those people are today the purest Gatekeepers I don't want to call it that but where are you people today to call out what's hip-hop and what's not cuz everything that's hip-hop today is not hip-hop at all true based on that old vgid definition descrition yeah but the one thing you shouldn't lose is your power and ability to dictate I'm not telling you not not to do deals with people that could better your care career or not to compromise with I compromise Hey Kevin La said I couldn't make an album with 15 depressing songs he said I needed to give him two songs that he could do something with hey all right and I hit mine out the park not knowing nothing about that can I ask a question what's hip-hop I know what the origins of it the five Els and what people what is it def defined as now what is it what is hip-hop now even when even when I hear people say culture like what is culture what when the purist say culture we we talking about people that the five elements kind of raised so and I guess when I say hip-hop I'm talking about rebelliousness M cuz that's how it kind of started with the fly the fly the the fly from each burrow meeting together and MC's on the mic calling out their dance squads shouting out just not doing whatever everybody else outside was doing and today it's the exact opposite it's whatever is going on outside we try to make it hip-hop or find a hip-hop artist to sell the Happy Meal or sell the Popeye sandwich hey hip-hop people that audience that y'all have that's super important but we won't value it like it's important bring them over here let us utilize them for our the real that we make money on and let let us give you this Advance let us give you this little bit of money let us give you this small opportunity ain't none of these popping like that it's Drake it's three it's it's seven popping yo I don't want to hear all this none of y'all are popping and not all of Y nigg is making a buck 75 a year and fronting that's what's going on it is no back to your number it's your number you got it right it is a small percentage of people that hit the jackpot M let me ask you a question everybody else is fighting for their lives let me ask you a question the person that not the serious the person that was completely broke you think they played the game for that 175 happily yeah yeah that's all I'm saying it is hold on let me finish let me finish it is a very small percentage that hit the jackpot but it's another percentage that that just get out cool so so would you rather so would you rather be an artist right a artist that could tour for 20 years based on your Artistry or you want to be the gimmick that made the 175 for four years and now you broke you asking me I would want the longevity it's artists that might never made millions and millions of dollars but they fed their family off of Hip Hop for a good 20 years they're using your desperation to trick you yeah that's that's exactly that's what the old record deals was that's what they're doing they just find a way to dress it up today so my messaging to that would be cuz I'm never encouraging people to not play the game true gotcha I'm never that's not what I'm encouraging I'm encouraging What DJ Mustard said a little while back which was you play the game trying to figure it's all Monopoly game yes it's all Monopoly game we play the game and figure out how win while I'm playing the game how to win that's that's what it should be you sign up all right come on on to something happier Melissa four yes sir in our what's going on segment today do you need some you are our what's going on seg you are music play the music I'm coming I'm coming would somebody like we need the music first what going that conscientious [Laughter] me o the live version from not the live for M way they was screaming from Marv was getting you wait hold up hold up hold up hold up they a scream like that when Pump It Up came when you ran out on the stage par yo you got to chill son what our Good Sister Mel oh no I can't listen to this I the reg might let that whole Jam keep playing no I'm play the regular version that live is f I Marvin was the man stupid ass dad right mhm oh that's right his dad killed him mhm so sad if that don't tell you we come from trauma and pain God damn our good sister Melissa Ford boy I love when the bad get a dog sitter that's my favorite thing in the world when the baddies find somebody to watch the kids and the dog that house going to be unattended to for a little while hey my good sister MB the luggage to work you know we got to find got to find way my good sister Mel is leaving the Pod straight on a flight is they talking about Lulu Lemon on the waist down in case you was confused I also have a theory that says women know what they doing when they throw some of that Lulu Lemon on absolutely yeah it ain't just that cash cash letic no no that is the nor athletic talk talk nigg I'm pass you know we got to find you know I get that I get if M for did not work in Jersey I believe that she would live in Brooklyn or Harlem or anywhere where there is a brownstone facts mhm Brownstone Bay has been born see The Brownstone in the park but what we're asking about here is your caption underneath your picture that said what did it say gentlemen it said New York NYC is so good for my soul mhm what's going on M what's going on what do you mean by New York is so good for my soul cuz the fellas have some theories we'll let you get a chance we'll let you get a chance I got about two sure you do I mean I'm outside outside what part of New York though H is there a certain area of New York even matter no it's summertime I was in Harlem at the block parties go yeah now we get rollerblading through Central Park you was rollerblading I was rollerblading Central Park was sitting I was I sitting I was sit I was hanging out in on Stone Street with you know the Wall Street you know crowd I'm I'm I'm popping you're all over the place I'm all over the place y heard that ping pong and Soho give me give me give me consent to make my next joke yeah please me too give me some consent consent consent you hear that all three I got cons I got consent you ass every oh my God how could they Tre your Jo go I think that Mel got a good taste of dick and now she is gone our good sister is oh what's going on hey what's going on yeah I think M got a good taste of penis she out here is good for the soul man wa yeah Hawks where do you get these one liners from he's good yeah word stop the record close the laptop you creepo yo you a Levi's wearing pervert man you are a nasty white you're a nasty white man my God what's good for the hole is good for the soul no one one of them one of them rsy I'm putting that on a shirt for sure dreadlock yeah it's one of them Ry dreadlock but that's what I don't like about it be doofy it be like that you you too bad for some of the behavior let me tell you I love all the narratives that you guys come up with and listen half the time I don't even want to challenge them because they're so entertaining I love keep it keep it coming keep it coming that's what you told that's why you you saw somebody that that she on a g Wilding think they think that a all grabbing up under the underbob she was with one of the step Bob Molly uh nephews iion like a lion you know them make that that Magnum drink here the children crying the children that that that put she felt it in her soul bro you think cu the movie coming out you can act like that as a matter of fact yes but let me tell you hold on one second [Laughter] waiting too long big [Applause] mail that Dre got to you big man big man hey n I'm with her Sal no I got a Sal any words for when you land huh wrong timey anything you want to say before the beat drop no no I I I can't wait for the beat to drop though I really little different from that wobble n that little old look that went that went from Rusty to busty sorry yo that little old was Lord well that not your king girl look at you you you're hilarious how you moving like that now I'm going to Atlanta she can now she now she flexing the festival this week hey she going to rugs party and rug yeah why you going I have some business said work she said work I have some business Tyler Perry Studios business work work work work work that niggaer going to beat you guys I wake up like something you guys will see in due time okay that is touching her soul I wake up and act like nothing's wrong touching her spirit got her don't point at me he got her yeah he got her I don't think you guys really really take into account that you live in the greatest city in the world New York City that's facts this is the greatest City see where she's going with it yeah don't say that cuz you came and got your back cuz you left here you left you abandoned us for La I did I did I was come back now now your shaking and you love I was like this weather I can't stand it anymore I want Perpetual Sunshine that's it are you walking through the airport like this I sure am I sure am going to skip right to the front of the line you giv you giving these young ones a challenge for their money man you don't even need preche you must you must he must be pre-tsa I'm trying to get a guy on a cart to like take me to my gate no you down with clear you down clear right here yo something happened TNA you something happened the power of Dick happened the energy is yeah something happened that lit that SM everything you know you know she been in here to even try to weaponize her Womanhood since that dick happened she she was backed up now she released you know how when the when the when the oven don't work no more sometimes get under there and like the pilot and once you like the pilot the we cooking again oh yeah this one of them old ovens this one of them you need logs need wood a belly oven yeah this one of them different type of oven it's not a k Pizza OV that went under there and lit that pilot bro I'm telling you oh my God lord okay yeah all right what El what else is going on what's next on the menu I mean on the docket what's next on the docket what's next on the docket is a fool yo okay what was it that you when I walked in you said something about something we tweeted oh yeah you freaky wa fre freaky what you do e what' you do E I don't know I I love that song I never even heard that song well roon wouldn't play this song roon is playing you know why you won't come out with me I know that you don't know how weird this sounds but it should never be that me and nitty hit a strip club for me and is I agree with this I know the audience don't know how Wild that sound but that is nuts yo this guy is crazy when you feel better can it one night sure bro not a problem you said that weeks ago we you put and you you on the menu I'm I'mma Be Easy you putting your together too nice yeah you matching cleaning up looking younger and younger by the day losing weight yeah you out here e you did some real lightskinn on your Instagram Twitter I don't I say it you was being vulnerable but I was crying that what you calling was crying in my house you went on a you wrote like five paragraphs about you having sex wrong as because you never know how love you didn't know how love you did I didn't know the intimate act that we were yo why the you did that performing the real meaning behind the performance e come on E you know you be going through some when you get that nut out he started reflecting I go through some here we go here you go here you go cuz he put this on his main page he ain't even put it in the story like a real a can grow all right go ahead if you grow real normally want the growth to be deleted in 24 hours you put in the main page let me read it for you it goes something like this something I felt motivated to sh smoke to your soul you had to get that out he full of man something I felt motivated to share and hopes others especially the homies oh that's us I was wondering who what talking about you understand avoid and or correct if applicable I've never heard you use this many big words I built up I built up don't interrupt me I built up almost 20 plus years experience of having sex only to get to this age and time in my life where I've realized that I never truly experienced or appreciated what the actor is about or meant for until recent times it sounds like what we talked about at the beginning of the Pod very rarely if ever was I actually connecting with someone's mind body or Soul let me put my Light FM voice on for this that is sexy an addiction formed from past traumas which I won't get into that and you corny for trying to get off past traumas anytime you say I won't get into that but past trauma like stop it no let me tell you tell tell me what what happened you could confide at me wait you read but ignored because as men we're told by other damaged people that are unhealthy appetite is normal what almost every past encounter was to stroke my own ego and press others add a name number to the list or just done out of pure habit damn he was getting like that he was getting a lot of got a lot got a lot more this one out to turn 40 to turn 40 in real I'm telling you when turn 40 y when turn 40 they get all stupid like this look to turn 40 and realize that you've never truly enjoyed embraced or experienced the real meaning behind an act you've done so much until now makes me sad at times I boohoo when I'm home did say that yo what the but I'm glad I've came to this realization in the past few years and hope others who sharing this issue gain the Insight strength and need to change and need to change this for themselves and those who are affected by it live learn love and love now he didn't say that now yes he did you looking at the kitchen wall with the little please you know what so talk I watch I watch you go up here and say that these yachi and them was wrong when that girl sat on that couch and told them about her past traumas cuz they didn't go ahead and give her the space to speak it MH and now your your your brothers are here making fun of me sharing and having a vulnerable moment with other men you trying to get stop you slick ass that's a good way you trauma bonded ass you how dare you use those smooth ass lines to I'm not trauma bonded I was really sharing something that I I felt that I've come to the realization how many people hit you let me see your phone right now how many people hit you in the DM and oh can we bring that game back let's see your phone will we pass each other uh look at each other's phones and read he my DM D my phone right over there wanted to rap you with my warm and bra wait so I'm the only person here that understands that that that sounds like that sounds like I'm like Melissa understands TR oh you would have ran out the mail at the bar yeah that works that works on that that works on some other goof who was it who was it supposed to work on what was the light bulb moment that you were having brother got him it work it work light bulb moment he's so mature I've had this moment oh uh for quite some time now okay and I wanted to express it in some type of way and I figured why not express it put it in my notes write it sometimes it's good to just write it down and read followers right and I posted it on my my page okay no I fck you on that ice ice you wanted to express it in some way right oh this it's a smooth boy as an R&B singer you wanted to find a way to you couldn't find a way to express these thoughts that you had let's be very clear put instagam let's be very clear I have not put out a these artists Artistry is dead I have not put out a project since 2017 I said nothing about a project I know what what was I going to do outside of write this get it off my chest and share it in the easiest form which would be my page how else would I share this so besides um these heathens and their response right now what was what was the response crazy my DM too yo I don't want to you know what I mean but a lot of men who lost their virginity the way you did feel no damn now you feel like that so now going to hit me oh how did you lose your virginity what porar you like it gets tricky you lost your Virginia to a porn star no the the porn the porn star babysitter it's a lot of lost you lost lat right no oh you was big I just wanted I wanted I wanted to be shown though when you try to be vulnerable it don't work yeah true yeah ain't no safe space y'all wouldn't even me y wouldn't even allow me to grow if if that cuz it's coming from a genuine place but let's just say it wasn't coming from a genuine y' wouldn't even allow me the space to even think that it's possible to grow in that manner right I'm just supposed to be the nasty freak in my whole life yo let me ask you a question well normally nigas what do you think girls that were in relationships with you meaningful relationships felt about your imp I don't care I don't know don't give what they thought about it I ain't with them no more that's how you answer a good question and be hon and to be honest ain't about them is about me cuz they cuz they might have they might have been genuine in their meaningful uh uh uh how they met and how they looked at me it's not saying that I didn't uh appreciate them I just I had a disconnection of what I was getting from them yeah L Zar pants hit different when he start talking like this this this little church outfit he got this hit different when I don't give a how they feel it's me n man I a mad that and I'm joking but I do understand some of that I do understand some that actually we started this SP talk about we did we did um Mel give us the update on Jonathan ma yay yay all right uh keep it short and sweet uh Jonathan Major's girlfriend was arrested on charges of assault um but the prosecutor is not going to uh pursue any charges so nothing's going to happen with that but he is still going to trial wait wait yeah they they dismissed his uh missile he tried to get it thrown out based on the new information found the judge said no you still got to go to trial so they still going to trial mhm but arrested her the reason why they arrested her was because he issued a um uh counter claim against her oh oh yeah so it's procedure Yeah so basically he filed ass assault charges against her she was in turn arrested but the prosecutor's office is not going to follow through with the charges they're not going to pursue anything okay okay that's basically what happen got all the headlines because she was arrested but the the you know the main point is that she was arrested based on the fact that he filed charges against her got it now yeah they Hest yeah that's what it was a arrest arrest it was a arrest procedure mhm an should really made the headlines all the headlines that dumbass M finally saw a picture of her oh the picture came out back in March somebody had like leaked it plus she was like outside you know after the alleged assault she's partying and like that you know so she's on camera and stuff so yeah that's the update so he's going to trial next month he made a big leap from from her to Megan good cuz she look whoop well there's that yeah then the white the white Whisperer wow salute Y what you call him the white Whisperer he whispered to the whites listen no I don't that's K is so so now you how do I get in this you're abandoning your white counterparts for a sexy model next H it uh before we get to the next topic I want to let you guys out there know whatever I said about Jonathan Majors I'm going to see this new bodybuilding that's coming out whatever movie he got coming where he had to go work out all extra to be musclebound man I'm going to see it I'm going to see it he took all he took all of the anger from the that was saying about him and hit the gym and it's going to produce like some content don't let I'm going to see the him and Megan Good Love Story when it come out I'm back hey like I said Loki season 2 is out he's in it and the is fire so I'm here saw it already well it's it's a season so it's like episode four or five or something like that yeah he's K oh also uh the John Gotti do on Netflix thumbs up you seen it I saw seen it seen it get got nope nope listen you won the doc War okay you won the war don't ever want to hear your name yeah you can't downplay like that now you were popping before I Wasing sh you're absolutely right I missed it I was I was too busy being outside I'm Reach Out And Touch Get down on it yeah you got to get to that next next phase of getting dick where you watch docs with the dick yo come on Joe enough leave alone leave her alone man enough wow you always do that too you phony ass I'mma get you I'm going get you when she wasn't getting dick we was making fun of her we going to clown no matter what all right I'm well you don't do it cuz you you you still want to milk off of all the deals you get you still want you treat her a little different cuz you trying to use her my I get my own deals and some of hers right I get my no I didn't get no deals from her you got a lot of deals when you were sick yeah I did I get a lot deal and on top of that I told you your enemies want to sign me stop I have I wait I have enemies I'm too humble for that I don't have no enemies they want to sign me make a Blog about that nobody cares take that out what you said enemies enemies he know I'm talking about he come up here again say somebody wouldn't sign him that be get a head start on it you know you can make the decision faster huh you can make I can't make the decision the contract the contract you put some type of claw in there got he was so I had to push you to the edge me out idiot in the I'm done yo what up uh what else right we don't care about summer walking for Sean uh uh ice did you pick up your skims nah they was ordered though you were you oh okay so you are one of the 25,000 orders that took place within 5 minutes of the launch you going to look good in them shits got send me a p square up we we can square up what if you about to start wearing scams we can square up little you got you got the white joints the tiny Whitey scams I just be vulnerable post it on a yeah send that to the group chat no yo send your skim picks to the group chat my G do please Yo Dogs how I look should I post this yeah get your Dwight on man he what Jesus Christ uh do we have any thoughts about the rumored uh flopping of Jada Pink's book what's the uh what's the rumor how many she sold well I don't even know what a book 2700 on kindu I mean yeah they not they it's not so much a number uh authors and biographies that autobiographies that she should have beat out uhhuh she did not she did not um kall and a lot lot of the other book charting sites she wasn't top five for most of the release week that's crazy they're saying that Britney's Memoir dusted hers oh well as it should the little blurs I saw from that that sound with black scent or more Will Smith yeah Will Smith who has a podcast coming called class of 88 where he's talking with L Jazzy ja just everybody from that class this is a Wonder product so shout out to them the trailer looks crazy that's five it does look good trailer look crazy I don't get on that me either I remember you said a long time ago you ain't really like you know I ain't with none of that oh you still feel the same way oh for sure n that sounds like using his powers for good though whatever F I'm not mad at that but no any thoughts on Jada's book flopping no yes oh don't care yeah thoughts on it no it's thoughts on I care yeah oh listen not that I care not that I care but you did that and you came back into the media in a negative way um and putting your family I don't want to say In Harm's Way cuz that's a little got to be but you you you you brought some more negative attention to your family for a potential profet and now if that Prophet doesn't come through and manifest itself then what what did you really do it for she's going to lean back on will lean back lean on them I'm glad the book flopped why because hopefully I mean I know it's not going to but I'm glad the book flopped because just to show people that doing all that extra salacious don't necessarily exposure in in under the guise of transparency and living my truth typ sh yeah I'm just saying when you do all of that and and your goal is to sell something a lot of times it works so it makes more people want to do it so I like to see when you go through all this extra and it don't work so maybe the next person that was getting ready to do it just to chase the cell say maybe not because it might not work that's true I thought the book was going to be uninteresting simply because her talking points or like what they were pushing using to push the book was all we already were kind of like privy to the Tupac do you guys feel like the book would have been more successful if she didn't go on such an aggressive press tour no just talk about other things that you might not know about your life but here's the basically what I'm asking is it seems like in every single interview she gave away a lot of of the book's content so what's the point of buying the book so if she had given if she had just dropped the book maybe did one interview with a major media Outlet like say Gail or whatever the case is and then just said and that's it everybody go by the book it would have done to bump her Jay-Z interview for this n Mel to answer your question I don't think so because I've seen certain it just got to be interesting like this wasn't interesting or you got to have a fan base like I don't know I don't want to insult her but I don't know if her fan base was that big enough to really give a I don't think that she gave away most of her book I don't believe that and I don't believe that it was her per se coming up with the excerpts to promote from the book I think she sent out an advanced copy of her book and the Publications went to what they thought was the juiciest for their for their own good and it worked for their she like they ran the numbers up body that put the story about Jada and Tupac and will and they we were separated they ran numbers up I don't think that served no no no no no because lot of it was her she was in interview she just did the last interview uh I just saw the other day where she said that she and Will Smith were technically separated for seven years until he smacked Chris Rock that night they got back together quote unquote and everybody was like all the women was screaming I'm not mad at that so but again the the the excerpts that you're talking about she's giving the world it ain't necessarily the the news mediums that's pulling this Sala from the pre the preag copy she's giving them the details and not just that bro we've seen instances where uh uh the trailer show damn near the whole movie if it's still interesting people going to go see the movie regardless like I what this was not interesting people just did not give a we were tired of J about Tupac being your soul or him proposing to you or you possibly was a a a drug dealer you so crack at like it's just was like we didn't care you put most of this story on Instagram for the past couple years yeah like what else happened in your life we watch you on red table we talk you and your mom and your daughter talk y' all done y uh conversations about your past and like what else is there for us to know at this point we already know I just think the interest wasn't there nobody gave it there yeah I'm cool I don't think it's too late to draw draw up interest I don't think it's too late for them to go back to the drum board and find a new new route nor do I think it's too late for the book to actually sell right like it might have had a bad first week or didn't live up to expectations but it's still J pink and Smith then they say books do that right I'm going to read the book books and give me give me give me like give me like a week or two I'll come back in here with a full assessment on the book would you have time oh like y'all did for savior complex I N I watched it I don't have any beef all I'm saying is we waited for us to go watch something and get red well vered on something and we never brought it up this podcast does not do good with we'll be back in 3 weeks we watched it those of they watched it I told you I tried to watch it I came right here and told y'all hey I tried to watch it y'all can have that discussion I can't do it that was boring to me and I checked out quick yeah excuse me I cut that off too and I cut off the Robin Williams uh comedy why Dark Side of Comedy it was only 44 minutes I don't give a what what pissed you off everything too sad it was sad I told you it was sad yeah but it was like from minute one it was really really well it's sad from minute one like they made Mor and Mindy Robin sad like it it was said it's it's a it's a tragic tragic story you know and we miss Robin Williams it wasn't tragic the whole time it wasn't tragic the whole time no but I guess just because it's a foregone conclusion as to knowing what the outcome is is that watching it back there is just L this just it's very sad knowing where it go where it goes put the happy music bed when Robin Williams is happy all right stop don't start out with the oh he was a great man like no this is laughing it's Robin Williams took the comedy comedy scene by storm when he yeah know paint more that more of that they was all sad they was all sad and I'm not saying I won't go back to it because I'm the do God and you're not yeah but you we'll see yeah uh speaking of flopping uh the city girls recently did Breakfast Club and didn't say nothing about interview and then then they my brain city girls did The Breakfast Club and responded to some of the backlash and criticism about their low album sales which was reported at 6,000 sales and we didn't know if that was true or not but them responding to it on Breakfast Club tells me there's legitimacy behind it yeah they they blamed it on or attribute I blame but they attributed it to uh timing promot and just disagreement with their team yes everybody ain't on the same page I mean and it did just drop out of nowhere so promotion was lacking for sure the only thing we had was that one week announcement and the BET War pop up yeah that's not only certain people can pull that off like yo I got something dropping next week you everybody can't do that did they have a sing they didn't have a single they had a single uh good love they just they just nothing stuck they spoke to that too they said a lot of the songs that are on this project they thought were singles two years ago and had big fights with their team about it uh and now those records are just out and that's not what they wanted to do I don't think they should do music anymore or or the JT girl should go and probably be a solo artist I I don't the gr once you say her name you don't have to say girl my bad yeah yeah no I I yeah I don't think they need to do music more I think Kisha got a nice little space and and probably creating a little Media Lane for himself if she can and uh and JT can go do the music the the group itself to me is just you might have run their course it's 100% to me ran his course I don't think that they can't sustain themselves separately but together it's just like all right let's all play our record exact if y'all have the city girls who here is breaking them up not it I'm not breaking them up me same way the same reason you just said that's why I'm not breaking the same reason why I push for the Chloe and haly's girls to break up some things just run its course it's dope it make but at some point you need to see what possibility you have of building a brand outside and then maybe possibly bringing it back there's no cache to city girls outside of uh what they what are you what are you looking for them to do together right now at this moment just do the same ratchet songs yeah okay cool there's other women on their own who's doing it 10 times better than them right now that's what I said before they they've been kind of lapped a little bit like cool so you've been lapped you allow be lapped no no no don't catch up go do what you Kisha even if you didn't wasn't supposed to win don't catch up if I'm the label right if I'm the label and I got karisha like you said this platform all this star power attention she got there's no way in hell am I going to split them up and now let you go solo you just I'm going to use I'm using this is this is a impact number game the part and everything you saying sounds like why artists shouldn't follow Trends you got Kisha who's building this brand and you see she's doing her thing outside this to me would be the perfect time to remove her from the group and let her do her own I'm the label I'm just trying to make money and and run numbers y but that's the other reason hold on let's let's get back to this artist uh Creator caveman conversation for a minute because you know the music business the music business is full of biters and dick riders right even if you're not being reactionary even if you're not being reactionary and you come out dictating okay you know that in the next one to two years that will be bit eight months yeah I'm being generous that will be copied and it might be copied by that's talented and it might be copied by that can do it better than you so now that person that was reactionary or not dictating now you just is over we not going to you for what we was going to you for and you not if you're not constantly trying to innovate then you're done you can't do it again I mean what what if I what if I could what if I pivoted off what if I got hot in that time frame and now I got a podcast or I I got a show I got I got something else now that I don't really got to do the because ain't no money here I'm trying to make money I'm not trying to be this long the greatest artist ever and and have the career I'm just asking you what I think that leads to my I I I think it it it extends to my point of okay you're doing your thing you're trying to make money at this very moment you're not hot in this space in the music space the group was not Hot Correct C you still have a name but cold but that girl isn't cold she's hot on her own it comes so why don't we pour more of the energy in building her up in that space give this girl her space of her own and then maybe down the line when you both up smoking hot individually we can possibly bring this back together and make it work it's not the same entity but hold on I was just getting ready to say that real quick when when is it totally different that she's hot over there she's not hot with us yeah she's not hot with us she's hot getting money over there block me and is a group right you a music ex me and Ice a group we we had some success ice now goes over here and gets success from something different that you don't get you're not in control of it's no guarantee that when I go do my own solo project one it's going to be successful but two because you are successful over there I'mma keep your ass right here and build off of our individual success it ain't no guarantee from the company standpoint only that's what we speaking from okay no cool I think these labels these companies still know that they're still invested interest if whether you are exactly involved in the the project or what the person's doing outside of that if you start to make yourself hot it still benefit the label at some point it might not it might not benefit them at the very moment as the group but you but she's still a part of the group and if she still a part of the group and she still just Rising her name and her and her getting her shine individually it at some point could still help the group of course but you you wouldn't let them break up but it's it's not so much of a breakup it's let them let them develop themselves individually so that we can probably have a possibility of getting this group hot again now we going put out some it's cold we got no single and now we don't want to hear announc a lot of a lot a lot of people that break up individually and get hot they don't come back to the group they usually do think about it think about it no no when they come back to the group they sit there and say hey dog I'm hot you not we not splitting this this way no more who who came back to the group we not doing that lot of don't come back to the group I was just reading something almost every group that you know whether they wanted to come back or come to tour but not come back to they come back and they do a project or album in some type of way we've seen seen Michael do it SE about George Michael hold on wait did that little comeback family tour Justin timlake ain't never come back we saw first off listen let's get one thing straight we saw Michael come back to the group in the height of Thriller wait what he didn't even do a thriller tour he went and skipped his own Thriller tour and did a group album and did a victory tour at the height of his career my you have seen can't argue with him on no mic whatever you saw you saw back you got us you saw Beyonce come back y'all naming some names in this city girls talk for real y doing great George Michel Hey listen it was just a quick question to get us to play executive I'm just telling you that's that's it you ain't going nowhere while you hot shorty Mel real quick before you before you go on your little Escapade trip yes give me five things a gentleman should have in his house five things a gentleman should have in his house as you do that any one of you men could give me five things that a lady should have in her house wet [Music] wipes I judge I don't see wet wipes is important I will judge I'm a little different I ain't going to H air freshener go ahead yo I need some suspense music or something I want to say a stocked fridge but sorry okay uh how would I say this like in its entirety I want I want to say like glasswar but I want to say like set I want to have a complete set of actual dinner wear yes not paper plates and and plastic uh cups alol um I mean that's going to be in any nigga's house um that's a suspense music towels a set of towels um clean sorry a set of clean towels um proper bedding and pillows how many multiple sets no I'm not talking about pillows oh six why you say that's so Lusty n I'm I'm not one of those girls that needs like six seven pillows on the bed yeah no no no I sleep with like one pillow it's it's a good pillow one pillow yeah POS all yeah all right that's a good list yeah any fellas any fellas she must clean house you clean you got to have a clean bathroom facts I agree um cuz you know your house could be a little you know we we Life Is Life and but you got to have a clean bathroom you wait you going into a woman house with her living room and dirty but her bathroom got be clean ain't nobody say dirty yo everything I look for is almost near the bathroom even if your living room is dirty your bathroom should be clean there's a difference between dirty and messy junky dirty and we got clarify that um I'm I'm going just piggy back I think as an adult you need to have quality Linens mhm I agree and quality kitchen wear make sure you got your rag she got to have a full set of pots and pants don't be having Rags get your you ain't cooking in here Mom what's R yeah that's that that them two fing them two fingers ain't cleaning the clip right I look for a loofah for sure if ain't no LOF in the bathroom we got a problem all right you know lofas are just rip with bacteria dirty yeah they're gross cool I still want to see the L this turn that loud they scared to knock laptop over think about it that makes sense though they dirty o why they dirty and your kitchen can't be dirty why they dirty cuz it's got all the skin cell on it okay so so a wash rag is better yeah because you use it once then you throw it okay please do not lie and say that y'all all in here use a wash rag once and then throw it I do not no I don't do that I use it for but the wash rag gets washed I use it for a couple days you don't change your loofer once a week yeah that's true lofers be hanging around for a month or so that SM get all saggy at the smelling nasty you they got it hung up pressed against the dirty bathroom wall that should be crazy soap scum on it I take that and get right to hit the pubes hey hey I don't have no I didn't think my pebes was the cleanest any give me that that little feeling when you scrub your whole with the lofa and then stand under the water it's like some minty we get nice and hot too oh nice and hot like disinfectant on your I was dirty right there right get that what whatever is I don't care judgment judgment all right they got two part of the show questions for y'all let's here all right one is a gender War one is oh man one is actually a pretty good question uh and this goes this is from who the hell is this pollen tette Terrell pollen however you say it last week too oh yeah mhm pulling Terrell oh yeah now I see he got like seven though Joe you and Melissa have been famous for a very long time maybe before social media became a thing ain't no maybe about it Ain no maybe about it definitely your co-host have gained more Fame since joining the Pod oh chill it's chill he a mean that he know you been famous before he made a mistake but he made a mistake I would love to hear you you guys compare gaining Fame now to gaining Fame before social media when trolls had to work much harder to voice an opinion do you all feel like you've gained more love or more hate since becoming more well known uh hate for me absolutely hate hate and and I don't respect New Age Fame I don't I don't respect these that that get online and crash their motorcycle into the divider and become famous I don't I don't that ain't it for me when I was in the barber shop at 6y Old 6 years old and Bud from The Cosby Show was his there I was excited I went and got me a pinning pad cuz who knows when the I was going to see Bud again and that was bud you was on TV like it was a thing I never today in this new age it's just de yeah freaky freaky that ain't These Ain't really famous it's clout it's not depends depends on what they doing Mr Beast could walk down the New York Street who Mr Beast who the is what about him Mr and nobody would know a thing he's one of the I'm just saying he wouldn't be what do you mean what I mean they wouldn't he's not so recognizable Mr be do you know who that is Mr I know Mr Beast on YouTube yes if he walked by you would you be able to yes I would okay because you do you think that most people on a New York Street would be able to do that I I say no okay that's true I don't know what that is I compare that to fame that where you like like a damn Mike Tyson or somebody that can't step out without a mob or well he's arguably the most famous in the world say Snoop that's the same argument Snoop ain't nowh near as famous as Mike Tyson they close but Mike Tyson is more famous um but that's what I say when when you be when you talk about us you know what I'm saying like I don't say that we famous yeah like I I don't think that I don't think that at all I think that we popular notoriety you know what I'm saying um for my man's question I know myself you I can't compare the two cuz I don't know what it was like pre internet era sure versus now you know what I'm saying like I don't I don't know what the two things are I think um pre- internet it was harder I think your talent and all of that really had to come to play yeah you know what I'm saying without so much internet influence cuz the internet can influence somebody on how they really feel about you mhm true before the internet the media told you who was famous right like that was a big thing when I was watching the John that John guardi do that was he was Wilding was fire son he beat a case from every agency until the last one and they had to flip on him even then but by the time he beat the third case he's on the cover of time he's on the cover of this building he was mad as hell he actually they said he partly beat the third case because he was so well-liked and well Lov and his Persona was just lovable the news people was going to his hood where uh The Gangsta was hanging out trying to get the town to how do you feel about John Gotti blah like I feel safe here yeah we love them because of John Gotti like they help us with the bags my car has been stolen in every neighborhood but this one yeah the Little Italy neighborhood Y and in the last trial why a big part of why he lost was they made his lawyer not be able to represent him no they all came together both agencies came together and Sammy the bull the agencies did come together but when the agencies came together and they that lawyer couldn't represent him in that last trial when they started playing all the tapes that they had cuz they had so much recorded of him from back in the days it changed the jury's perception of him cuz now he's cursing a lot they never really heard him curse you talking about whacking killing so they they they basically assassinated his character oh for sure for said oh yeah he he did this but while I was watching I was like damn that's ill that one of the most arguably most famous gangster of all time was like a darling yeah they made the Stars a lot of them today a lot of these stars are not they they not handpicked no and and we had this conversation a couple months ago on the Pod I think your charisma and your personality go into that so when you get a on camera and he could charm you he could wow you it's like oh all right I'm going with him and I bought up 50 like when 50 start talking you just be glued to the TV yo he's funny he's charismatic he's smart you know what I'm saying so you be like oh like that you just start to now become a natural fan organically of this person without anybody because how he came out it was so different than when he speaks I'm not even talk I'm talking about yeah like when he started talking you know all the hood all right cool but then when he starts putting it together you're like yo this smart as and they don't know all the hood that's the F know what I'm saying but when people for yeah not all of it yeah but you know how he they marketed them in the very beginning like yo I got shot nine times I did this I did that I did this and if they knew all hit maybe the John Gotti applies true M maybe they view him as such a menace and a monster that they can't they can't conceive this that you're talking about the second question is a little lengthy please short on the answers because it is and it's a gender War it should be fast okay and it's starts by saying gender War this is from dtyd 85 salute salute salute salute to the whole part of the show to yo this month this month this month I am adding a Shadow tier to patreon I am where for a number y'all can come up here and see what's going on I'm going to do that wow I'm doing it that's a big one the numbers going to be big like physically come in here okay all right and that ain't really that that tier really won't be for fans though like it's a that number is going to get the fans out that number is for the person that that tears for the person that wants to Shadow and learn and maybe start their business or okay like that okay it's not we're not just having fans coming in okay so you would screen them even if they can pay even if they pay the amount you going to screen them to see the amount is going to screen them some these okay oh then welcome bring a friend all right I'm have some up here too yo joe don't get nobody beat up I'm have some up here too don't worry about it let me know what day that is all right and I can I can hear your brain I'm bust it down you going to bust it down you try to hide behind flip as flip you try to hide behind flip being the number one pocket Watcher on the PO I don't know if it's true I don't really watch pocket look viola look at Viola come out that's how you know when we get up I don't really watch pockets all right but do you want go ahead read uh this says gender Wars okay a couple decides to split their expenses 50/50 all bills including mortgage they recently had a child and the man tells the mother of his child that she has to pay the entire bill because she decided she couldn't have a natural birth and the epidural was the bulk of their $88,000 hospital bill sounds stupid isup knowing no other information my significant other thought that that was up I agreed that his reasoning is up but I countered that they had an agreement in place and he was uh and was only arguing that point my significant other tells me she thinks that a man should pay the full bill as the woman has to endure pregnancy as well as labor one regarding the story at the top please your thoughts and two do you you feel a man should pay the full hospital bill if the pregnancy was planned huh this is a stupid question this is really go pay go pay your sh go touch grass yo go touch some grass get I understand his point though explain it to me it's stupid he's saying they planned a pregnancy so in their house they split all their bills 50/50 so the pregnancy why would that not be split 50/50 that's his point he's saying the sign others said that the man should pay the bill because the woman endured the pregnancy y I have a better question I have a yeah please that was Hey Hey Big Dog hey good luck congratulations or I'm sorry that happened to you I'm not I'm not I'm not doing I think your wife has got you dead to rights in that fight I can't believe you argued that yeah that's crazy here we go New Jersey runner though says I'm going to get vulnerable and maybe too personal if y'all don't mind oh we never mind mind at all I don't mind they just going to make fun of you though D we can't play Changing Faces no more cuz AR Kelly no we can't play what you want do you mind you up I don't mind what play whatever songs y'all want man two years ago promises he wrote music forel on wait a minute let me finish y'all got rid of Sparkle y'all hating yo all right this gentleman says I'm going to get vulnerable and maybe too personal if y'all don't mind my male intuition tells me somebody hands been in my cookie jar but I have no proof uh-oh but the sex ain't been the same lately the Box sorry Mel for saying box he said that but it just feels a little off she's not pushing back no more moans ain't the same things just seem off about the sex now my mentor is all over and I'm hitting her thinking what 15in meat been cooking my chick yo causing me a slant case of Ed how do I get over this mental lapse my bad yo it just sound like he's trash you're you're the problem oh man I'mma shoot him some bail I'mma shoot him some bail let's say he always was trash but trash used to make it hit word and now she's no longer reacting to my trash the first thing I would say to myself ain't I'm trash cuz I've been trash I would say who taught you that I'm trash you learned you went out and got something somewhere that's making you come home and say oh this ain't it I don't need you no more dog that's typically why I only uh I only The Virgins like twice three times right because then they went out and explored and then they came back and the moves didn't hit the same the moves didn't quite hit the same so I've never had Ed so I can't speak to that New Jersey Runner your chick that ran in New York got New Jersey Runner your chick trying to run away she R New York she put up with it she tolerated you because no but she might not have known no no she could have known no we we've heard that from I've heard that from a bunch of girls that is saying physically it don't feel the same too he said everything he saying she not him she not throwing it back no more you know how hard that is yeah cracking her yo for the for the for the she was a good actress got to act no more you know there is a distinct possibility just a distinct one that she went and got herself some toys and then it's not another man she might have bought a rose and a nice dildo and that's what's doing the work then y'all got to her together I was about to say Toys Toys don't that yeah toys as a as a man even if trash you can incorporate you can incorporate the toys to be a part of your tool bag you he's not going to feel the difference in your box from the toy how how didn't he just say he got hold on didn't he just say he has a limp wiener is he the one to be talking about without like the canal he said as a result of being turned off or being taken AB from her that's mentally it's hard for to get aroused at this point no I picked up on all that she's mentally out of it too homeboy what I will say instead of us just sitting up here making a whole bunch of jokes like what needs to be normalized amongst couples are having the uncomfortable conversations regarding your sex and sex commun sexual communication very true that's another one that came up in in in therapy for me most of us don't have the talk about hey how how have you are you enjoying how I've been pleasuring you are there other ways that I can pleasure you that I haven't Broach that I'm not thinking about do you have spots I'm not hidden how can we improve and how can I improve that don't happen it don't happen that should happen more ego this would behoove him but his ego should be in the toilet right now it should be it is if he thinking about a 15inch dick when it comes to his whz he just wrote The Joe Button podcast and yeah I wouldn't even wrote yet like that what else you going to do please don't shame the people writing in you would have wrote in you would have got this great advice for me you ice everyone let me ask let me ask you guys a question MH how in because you all have women in your lives you're married you know you everybody you're married you aan and girlfriend etc etc how interested are you in your significant others um Health down there like vaginal health extremely interested man what what you lost me why would we not be interested in that so are you open to her telling you everything that's going on down there and all of the all the changes all the stuff all the things that we encounter that we feel like we might not be able to tell you because maybe it's a little embarrassing or it's a little shameful or you or you might or you might start thinking oh how did that happen to you did you step out or whatever Cas you referring to like what like bb or ye no I'm I'm just talking about vaginal Health in general in general yes every I would hope that it's in a relationship um that is having unprotected sex with their significant other or not just that for her own for her own health reasons would be open to I think that you'd be really surprised by how many couples do not share that kind of information because women feel like they don't have that you know space that safe space to be able to have those kinds of conversations with their sign significant other oh yeah no we about we we have those talk like to me this this is what that sounds like to me he's making an assumption and he's mentally reacting off of it because he doesn't know how to have conversations with his woman about what is actually going on between the two of them physically you know what I'm saying so he's making up all these stories in his head which is result which might be resulting in you know his behavior and inability to perform and it might be something else going on that has nothing to do with an with an outside partner true you know so that's that's just my assessment of what I just heard hey Our advice to you homeboy is talk to your girl word yeah for sure that that to answer the question talk to your girl have a conversation she say she going to say yo raain blowing my back out yeah yeah that that's not going to happen so I mean well that's that's top that shouldn't be the question you should be you're not coming to her to find out who's blowing back come you coming to her trying to figure out what you can do better hey I've noticed that things are a little different is there something off is there just just open the door and let her talk and listen sure that's it yeah that's true hope we help um real quick on the NBA I'm not staying on the NBA and I purposely waited till hour four to talk about it Damen Lillard on the Bucks seems like the scariest thing in the world it is now that I've seen it that don't look right SC famam they was just letting him go crazy too like yo here yo Philly Philly won that game and then they just kept passing it to Dan M mhm hey yo you got it that is the scariest thing I've ever seen and the second scariest thing I've ever seen is porzingis on the Celtics I watched that game as a Nick fan Celtic fans be happy hey I know y'all was sad about that Marcus Smart trade that looks unbelievable everything that Tatum and whatever Tatum and Jaylen Brown issues was whatever you know they talking about chemistry and all that or we can't go left or whatever they talking about Drew holiday locking up RJ Barrett julus Randle and whoever else he was guarding along with porzingis hitting seven threes 30 points five block like he as a Nick fan that that that hurt that hurt I'm not watching those games no more I'm not doing that no more he didn't do that I was cool when he went to Dallas we was cheering when Luca was snuffing that get out of here big then he went to Washington go ahead and DC with your bum ass we ain't care now on Boston yo I'm terrified I'm terrified that is all Joe Button has for sports is y'all feel free if y'all have a sports tap um but I am I'm I think I think the Dame is damn near a cheat Cod that's not fair all it do is open up the court you got two perimeter dudes in Middleton and Dame Dame ain't perimeter and that is parking lot open up the floor for the nasis like my you got a that can shoot from the parking lot mhm now you got Greek Freak just running a muck in you can't crowd the paint no more it's cheating um regarding porzingis we'll see how it plays out he had a great game um those were just my NBA no no no I feel you ad what you going to do man we might be a little unfair but I'm I'm with you with that same sentiment but it's only two games My no I don't it's it's the mental thing around game when you watch the first game of the season he had 17 in the first half he didn't score in the second half MH like dog you're a you were you went from top 10 and I mentioned it all like your dog at one point ad was The Perennial big in the NBA like people was arguably calling him the best player in the league how many years ago was that theel a it's been a while years four three or four wasn't that long ago it wasn't that long ago fam within those four years look at everything else that's been happening with he M to LA probably getting the best box he's ever had in his life he's getting the most attention he's ever had in his life he picked up mad pounds and there's some other players that working them no you just want to shoot threes all day get your big ass down low bro pause that was crazy is frustrating to [Music] watch new I y'all got another Sports tape please I just saw this the other day I don't know if everybody knows this know y'all be on me for uh biging up Joker uhhuh LeBron been in the NBA 21 years uhuh Jason kid was in the NBA 19 years Joker's been in the league eight n years he's one triple double behind them from the center spot that's crazy yeah I saw that's amazing my so get this white boys props all season please that is amazing move forward and I want to give a different white boys and props right go to WWA and people are stop a little more popular I'm not I don't think it's famous I think I'm a little more popular than before but um if you go to Walmart or if you go to Target or if you go to Wawa right like I'm I'm the king of Wawa it's stay if you go to WWA you doing yo if you go to WWA and people are stop you when you're trying to buy a car where did you get this from that's awkward for me if I'm in the mall and somebody's like no is you were wrong women don't and I'm like okay I I don't want to I don't want to fight heyo you a sniper my n just dropped seconds ago have conversations that's something that's with a little new to me so that that's been a little uh look at your kitchen kitchen looks nice but I mean it comes with ter or is it something now you're like she sounds young it's flattering okay I goingon lie it's flattering like somebody stops you like a little more popular no I don't I don't know her you know Selena Hill I don't you know Selena Hill no we don't stupid we don't M dummy before we end the P oh man I want to let the audience know that this debuted on LinkedIn not a joke no did this really debuted on LinkedIn right now it's the Black Enterprise I don't care or LinkedIn don't try to up my stop stop son wait LinkedIn drops you shut the no they dropped is inter they dropped is he signed to LinkedIn that's hip hop yo how did you find a little more popular I'm not I don't think it's famous I think I'm a little more popular why you blushing and why all your tea show talking to this girl smile is was crazy to me I ain't never se you smile like that SM to you is what a smile L he look like years you got to have a little bit of arrogance to believe that you could do this like I'm saying that I'm scar I'm not saying you ass middle ofal Center I'm just saying it's going to take a couple a couple Club venues before I your own 7,000 people it's it's it's it's a growth thing you on way to be Beyonce you are Beyonce y listen to the interview dog hell to that part I'm on my way to be nobody said that you it's new territory most people aren't really willing to open themselves up to even allow put that water bottle down real quick that possibility I think that any yo what man yo stop your yo I just is this your kitchen yes your kitchen is beautiful got a nice kitchen dog the kitchen is Immaculate you did you put these cabinets up yeah it's a beautiful cherry stop you don't even see what he doing he shot the commercial at the same that's a commercial come on Y what idiot yo you never been is house no I never been to ish house ish yo that's mad common right yeah yeah I've never been in them friends out if they won't invite me outside with them what makes you think what makes you think feel invite me ins B your cabinets are beautiful you ass what is this futuristic stove you got on y stop your I'm asking a serious question I want to know too ain't got this the now know what's going on your kitchen is better than my kitchen no no it's not yes it is no what is this up here oh man see why is this pass his kitchen around pass his kitchen around oh man very nice is that George yeah you see what he did to the back walls yep yep yep care bill houses like my son that's they can't with myself son yo what's wrong with you yo that backsplash is crazy pass pass and you got the lights going on I see what you got the lights do you got the lights right there hey it's time for cooking you what you call that the fan above the stove what's that called got baby it's fancy this real I got it right here you don't worry about it streets got it is yo stop your bro nice ass kid that sent his one-year-old to her room right see got his this shining where where was your baby at got the light he got the light you know n where was both your babies yo you got makeup on what is this cherry oak that's espresso yo dog let's go bro we not going n you don't see your man I don't see what you should have you should have entered intro the Pod like yo I'm debuting on LinkedIn I'd like some support y'all missing it look look look what's on his shirt jigsaw this hey yo dog that's what you doing I see you what's jigsaw what jigsaw is that's a company jigsaw is your company I will throw this phone at you wait wait wait that's your LLC jigsaw ho you don't see what this n doing where is your Oney old at the babysit where's your wife at work is that what you do when your wife goes to work talk to pretty little hot things on Zoom that's in the kitchen that's nasty that's that's smooth wrong with that's Smo hey hey baby now I got to run down to the kitchen real quick I interview interview I got to do an interview on Zoom I got to show all my teeth just got a tooth implant now he want now he showing his oh my God what's wrong with act bad act bad that's fire is no come on man proud of you ever play proud you man I want to watch that yo what's the next interview we got coming huh pil King what's up what you got going on P King yo you know why I don't with him too the debuted on LinkedIn while he was at work so it's like Ah that's light I ain't even yo you have to stop being corny what are you talk I didn't even know that your kitchen is fire shut the up stop trying to come in here humble your kitchen is not humble you could have did that interview anywhere else bro y don't see he said the screen did that to show y'all hey that's my work this my company stainless Stiller you know right me all right y salute I see what know I with him look how clean the counters are ain't no clutter ain't no clutter you would have know with a white girl ain't clutter them counter you can't clutter them countertops yo what's wrong with you son what's wrong with you I'm going I'mma follow you home I'm follow oh man hey and and know why you messed up now we can't go to dinner no more too we can't go to dinner no more kitchen is we at your house let me tell you something his kitchen is too fire for what he was talking to me about at dinner it's over now look at that look at that kitchen you are done hey he about to post something he about to post something he want to post your interview I see you come on clap it up clap it up for the W shut up you tost up represent your interview standing on your own jigsaw you stole a name from from Saw freaky house builders I'm proud of you is you stupid yo mahogany what is that called word actually espresso espresso espresso how proud you I don't even know what espresso is how much your cabinet goes is I don't know like 20 30 oh my fault said 20 you insulted me oh he F that the how you know what to go with that y you're so stupid yo what's wrong with you yo be was cooling at the pum saw all World Cover Girl I said they look at her is bag my son of is bag yo you don't remember that yo that's it yo you keep singing I'm going to rug's party I'm going to R if you keep singing I'm pulling up the rug goe rug who up let me in when I pull up with big ma oh yo this so oh man those guys are fool all right keep us in your what's the um in your yo keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there you got to come do my kitchen I ain't going to lie this WR with you I didn't know you was living like that I did not know you was that fire I don't know what you talking about n out of here man and I know it's a TV somewhere in the dining he went crash a new little modern house freak freak is freaky yo keep us in your prayers Lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you a do farewell adosa diry AA Vista AR so long goodbye remember life is a series of moments and moments pass so let's make this moment last as if it's all we have hey freak freak freaky and do remember the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel to cloes minded women want you to teach them things and all them need to stop using that AIC OIC what's the name of this y'all need to stop y'all need to stop I'm in the strip club y'all taking this s waste thing to a new level Y'all are invisible in the Torso neck look all straight yo stop taking y'all shouldn't be injecting in you in the bathroom y'all shouldn't be using syringes to get skinny ruthless y'all hold it down man we got a real nice weekend Halloween weekend freaky o freaky be outside Halloween hey [Applause] boy come on look this ice cream Ford melt uh also before I go variety just put out something on this Jonathan major let me see if I could find it while you look that up also um Tori Lane's request to be released on bail pending appeal has just been denied oh which we knew I'm say again variety says Disney has removed magazine dreams a dark drama starring Jonathan Majors off of their release calendar the studio also delayed the debut of its liveaction version of Snow White by nearly a Year yo if any of you op are looking for me this weekend I'll be in the strip club man talk Happy Talk happy flip what you got going on this weekend anything um money getting money yeah outside getting some money got it got to catch with the mou that's eight and that's it I am yo text me what you need for the contract let's end it I just want to pay it whatever you need send it don't try to like no that's that's what we say don't try to put my fire out it's freaky freaky Jo he got his leverage [Laughter] man yo shout out to my man yo hey homeboy anytime you put videos up that's not of the Gang flop hey if you want to continue to get money and live the lavish lifestyle you've been living keep covering us don't try to bit your outside and cover them other they don't do it I'm am out it's true you going am out you said freak freak freaky jbp without [Music] but

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Length: 208min 21sec (12501 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 29 2023