The Head Of London's Mafia - David Courtney Ep|40

I would take Witnesses with me if I was going to be doing a man in the betting office I'd take four Witnesses with me you and your wife and you and your wife I'll do the thing and when I left by the time the police turned up and took witnesses there was none apart from my fault I've done five and a half years in prison for things that was eventually found not guilty for if I was to individually meet the people I would be very sorry yeah you flashed you but I'm gonna buy an hole in your chest and something in life out of you I myself was one of my nose was in his mouth and he was just going ah I had to put it out back to the Bluetick show opposite me today I've got David Courtney some know him as the monarch of the underworld welcome to the show guys before we jump into this video I want you to scroll down right now hit that subscribe button over 90 of you haven't subscribed scroll down hit the Subscribe button and make sure while you're at it you hit the like button too I'll see you soon and then my friend nice to be here yes it's been a long time coming I've tried getting you on here for a while now you've from when I first started a friend of mine recommended getting you on here and said that you've got a story that will blow me away when I listen to it a million little stories who've joined up to one big one you know the the public have a a Persona of myself which I helped actually make it I mean as a younger man I've prostituted depression you know I would have gone at the opening of a bag of Christmas but um did this podcast this podcast being in the uh the way television works now with live TV I think people have now come to learn who and what I'm about yeah I've got some stories for you everyone's heard about you you and what you've done as a younger man now but let's throw it all the way back to your childhood and let's hear about your upbringing family what it was like where you're from and what turned you into what you're known for being one of the notorious gangsters I think um not running along with the norm I come from a very normal uh family my mom and dad were God fearing cabin Scout leaders there was a arcaders over in South London in Peckham and Forest Hill yeah I was an average kid I was in the naughtiest kid in the world but what I did have was I like to laugh yeah funny funny and making me and mine under my umbrella having a giggle which seemed to be the most important thing to me I don't actually think there is any one thing that me or anyone else can ever say truthfully and say that turned me into crime I personally believe you're Paul naughty it's just in your running around in your genes and if the opportunity arises boom I'm that way if it didn't arise you wouldn't have become a [Music] you know I'm afraid you have it sir what was school like for you was your Troublemaker no no I want a job for me tonight it was a captive audience for me to actually perform so you weren't naughty you weren't no we're not Elijah well they might say Obviously what they would consider it naughty I was hunting the laugh on a gig order you know I mean I was I was out I think the only one thing you can put down to to professional naughty man they always had older friends when they were children you might be able to pick from that you know but I always had a lot older and bigger friends than me that I never Rectify anybody you know I mean I was too busy making him laugh and they were sticking up for me but what was earning a lot of money was breaking in and out of things and um all the average nothing special than anyone else and um you can't just say nothing special you've got to tell us what you were doing because you're nothing special to some people is something special to something yeah but me the truth is this I am nothing special mate that word my most hated word is celebrity gangster watch the who's 18 games now yeah the two two different things the two words don't go it's not saying police intelligence the two words don't I don't know what's that you know I someone wrote a book about me and I don't documentary about me and many years ago called the burmanji boy I lived in Peckham one I called it Rose boy I don't know and it was about a man preparing to go to prison and they had permission from the home office to fill me inside film all my friends and all that when I was raining Dorman at the time and filmed if they stayed low and if it changed me when I came out and whether my wife was doing it and it was all that and then um they had permission for all that and then on the day something happened that all the witnesses turned up and said it wasn't type Cody it wasn't difficulty it wasn't that good day so I got no cue he said I just made up a documentary they feel me doing all the naughty things first debt collection Dory uh car repossession rent a clump and then I was gonna film me when I come out doorman and that and see if it worked but I got no guilty so I had to make a documentary after these naughty bits I called it the burmanship boy and all of a sudden Dave caught his famous yeah but what he did you turn into crime what age did you become uh don't forget crime is is on on who perceives it to be there yeah I should imagine I was 12 for April silly things nicking wheels off of of cars breaking into places you know I was earning good money at 14. yeah yeah you know it was very hard to especially back then money's different now as much as it as cocky as it may sound there is such thing as natural leader material yeah and natural soldiers and I'm lucky enough to have had the natural reading material knocks on the best fighter Best Shot richest clear but you're talking sort things out with my tongue without that yeah that's the one that's got to be in charge and I mean that is your last resort is how do you know that you've got muscle around you or someone would have yeah yeah a strap or something where if you need it if you're in that world yeah but personally you've got to try it first to mend it with your tongue and I could do that keep it all funny and I think that's what made it be blew me into the importance thing yeah the the Triads might not be having it with a yard you might either of North London South London Indian Pakistani Protestant capital and on it but they all got on my Dave and that propelled me into a uh but it propelled me into a certain Fame and then when he cray died and I was asked to do the security which I took on board as the biggest honor of my [ __ ] night I forget what I mean so all right the security company at the time I thought that that day was going to change you for me for the better the whole world are going to see what I've got I'll fix 150 rifle was the best Army anyone could ever pitch I had Mr Glasgow Mr Manchester Mr Newcastle Mr Leeds Mr you know I had a army um and a three three quarters of a million people turned up they weren't all getting on they were all great mates you know initial firm didn't like that little firm that little family everyone against each other yeah but on that day I like to keep the the peace the peace yeah and that was the first aid at this police saw who I had working for me and each individual security guard had his own criminal CV and he went that is organized crime yeah that is one criminal organizing every other criminal in England to come down in one Army to and it's a serious to celebrate the life of another criminal what no is that all about yeah and um how old was you when he passed I was fully so by this time you'd already been deep dived into this I was very much deeply into into the underworld I've been in and out in prison when I was 21 I got done for attempting murder uh I've done I've done five and a half years in prison for things that was eventually found not guilty for I've done a yield remind for a five million pound worth of cocaine thing and got not guilty that's where I was in the special unit what's going on guys if you're watching this on YouTube make sure you scroll down we're now live on Spotify so you can watch us while you're driving listen to us listen to us while you're in the gym pretty much just listen to us anywhere and make sure you give us a five star review on Spotify thank you very much we'll dive into that in a little bit don't worry I've got plenty of questions for that part of the part of your life yeah there was 19 charges that you got not good with I know there is a lot more now there's 22. you must have a good legal team behind you yeah but I've also got it the reality is this the very first bit in the article of the rule book of law is if there is any possibility whatsoever that he may be not guilty you have to find him not Gary if there's an element of doubt they cannot be found guilty of putting an innocent man in you know Red Robin little guilty man out to put into men in and when I was doing mine crime I would take Witnesses with me if I was going to do a man in the betting office I'd take four Witnesses with me you and your wife and you and your wife I do the thing and when I left by the time the police turned up and took witnesses there was none apart from my fault and they would go big tall Ginger black man left on Horseback that way you know and if I was cooked for something I would have 20 good Witnesses soldiers in their wives firemen and their wives special customers and their wives all turning up to say just for instance I was with Dave calling last night and if you've got 20 people of good character character saying you with him that is the element of doubt so I could have enough witnesses to say anything but I find 500 Witnesses for him last night and swear in the Bible right but now you can't do that and get aware of it because all your friends that would go caught for you are on your Facebook yeah you're [ __ ] and the judge looked at it and goes we can't use him he's a mate you can't use him he's your mate can't use him he's a mate can't you so you can't use any of your mates that would lie for you in court you now can't do it because what they do is scan everyone first check them out that's why you couldn't get away with um with what I'd done you know when I was a genius it's just I was very popular and had a little friend I was running most of the clubs in London and up and down the country at the time security wise and I could pick out hundreds to go I'll be with this and obviously during that time you must have problems as well of course you must have had some the good times being the big boss I've had to shoot people and I've had my son has been murdered I've got lots of friends doing life in prison um I've been to prison you know I've got bullet holes it has not been easy it's always quite happy right now being Dave Courtney I'm just floating around nicely just enjoying it yeah leave me alone I like my book stop the ride I want to get off that's what it's called yep all right but getting here was a little bit of a bucket and when you're in charge of an awful lot of men and all them dormant you get the blame and the credit for an awful lot of things oh do you yeah and I can imagine they wouldn't say Bob Steve Charlie Brendan Seymour and Kevin stabbed and killed with Dorman last night yeah yeah and I've seen um you know so you do get I am you get the blame for all of it even when it's nothing no no I don't mind I'm the one in charge of backstops here I can say that anyway and I'll follow these great big giants of men that you think who or what could tell him what to do look at it they need some kind of leadership they need some steering they're a big Powerhouse of an engine of a man but they need someone on the steering wheel and I was the one you know what I mean and having a team of Dorman that big I suppose I had over a thousand people working for me at the weekend and about 500 people working for me during the week Monday or Friday on the doors and then when the raving come in our 2 000 people come except we had 28 dorm and what the well um must be making big dough back then it was huge money I bought my I bought a school showed it in the castle with me and my wife and white Rolls when you got Nick didn't the police take that away from you or anything it was a bit different then you know we're talking they dictate one of my roles which is away from me yeah well they're just a house yeah [ __ ] but um that's really what it is today money aspects around it all that's all it is well that is that is what prison is about prison is about how much money they can take yeah it is and you are not going to go into prison and make any Mastermind criminals and come out an awful lot more intelligent in the criminal world because you've met someone in there that's taught you something that is not area it's not how it works because the only people you're going to meet in prison are people that are [ __ ] and got caught and don't know how to do it the only thing you can possibly learn from anyone in prison and I've been there myself is how not to do it yeah all they can teach you is how not to do it don't you tell me how to do it you're in prison you knob you have to teach me how not to do it how did you get cool how did you get caught how did you get caught and if you can remember the ways they all got caught and you still want to come out of prison and be a villain then you're cleverer yeah because you've learned how not to do it but there's no one in that building going to teach you how to do it that when they say knock you away and they go yes the only people to do that are people that done it yeah of course if you didn't do it and you've done a year-on reminder you've lost your job your mortgage on your house the payments on the car the kids our private school you didn't do it when they actually go after a year not really you still lost all that no one's paid you a year wages you don't go yes you're still going and 100 I agreement so you've done five years you said belmarsh yeah no no I've done um I've done um a year and a bit in Belmont in the special unit oh you're in a bit in the special yeah and I've done I've done about a year and a bit in normal Wings on my mind I've done scrubs would you go belmarsh for um because belmarsh we all know it has it was just it was five million pound importation charge and I was in the special unit which is a prison and you got not guilty for that built inside the prison yeah right fair enough yeah I introduced somebody that um what was the situation the situation was uh somebody in Bogota wanted to bring over five million quids worth and didn't know anybody and I introduced him to some fella yeah and this fella done it okay when I ended up then getting Nick saying that I was involved in it and knowingly concerned and without an ad or a telephone um evidence and they said like you know without you introducing that man to that man this whole crime would never have happened so your juicy skill is empty now I'm looking at a lump of Bird Without You introducing him to him he couldn't have done it yeah so it's down to me and then they've all gone guilty so I'm now I'm Gonna Knock You you know and I've said you to the judge and I didn't think it is I didn't plan it it just it just came out of time I was in trouble mate and and the prosecution is looking at the jury saying how can you this gentleman go Nokia without him look at his phone he rung him he rung Bogota rung it back he rang him when they landed he ranged he was a link he was the main gave about him doing that he said um let him introducing him to him he said the crime couldn't have happened and I was I was in trouble now what do you say I was called your mafia and I said well your honor I said if I introduce you sir to that woman's Customs officer over there and she gave you a dose yeah is that my fault I introduced you you put your [ __ ] in you know I mean if you give you AIDS a a new diet am I done for murder and you said that one minute one minute you said yes if I introduce you to a bird and she gives you AIDS can I get done for murder then I I introduce you your honor you put your [ __ ] in this video is sponsored by Cranbrook law an award-winning immigration law firm they're talented solicitors can help when any struggles arise regarding immigration law they can help get you the Visas they need they can help get you the staff you need from any other countries as you can see the website is on the screen right now so if you need anything to do with immigration law message Cranbrook law and let them help you whether you're looking to obtain a sponsor license receive advice and guidance in relation to compliance and our civil penalties or take advantage of our know-how and experience across a broad range of business visas are talented and dynamic immigration lawyers are available to speak to you telephone numbers on the screen emails on the screen and hit the link in the bio if you need any help uh annoying the concern to that or conspiracy judge weren't happy about that no we're a judge weren't happy but I actually truly saw the jury or we'll all go to each other but who knows yeah you can yeah if you're in the dock the jury is like a game of tennis you know tennis she works with a crowd go yeah but as you as they're talking if you're in the dock you see all the eggs going that way to him talking and I saw them that one comment I've saw them go I said I don't know what he's going to say I did introduce him but what they say and what their plans and through that one she gave you AIDS when IBM murderer you know I energy it worked I saw them actually go almost right now [Laughter] and then when you obviously went inside yeah yeah it's meant to be the worst prison in the UK right now in newspapers they're all hotels and they're all running around please believe me he's not nice but that's not a nice prison I saw the greatest one is I suppose is most older ones yeah but when you're walking down now and you're thinking [ __ ] what was what were they predicted to give you what were they going to give you I'm looking at 15. you're sitting there walking through thinking [ __ ] me I'm looking at 15 years what was your life like that it was awful it was absolutely awful and the very first night I was your [ __ ] and what am I doing here wow and it's just like I say it's a prison a little tiny prison for 40 people built inside Belmont's prison and to come and visit him you've got to strip off naked go through the x-rays put on sterile clothes go talk through the glass with a screw sitting here exclusion here you know all that paper did you have trouble in there I had no trouble no there's only 12 of us tell a lie the only shovel I had was on the very first night I was in prison yeah I'm just looking at the window going well man I'm on remind I'm in trouble here they put you in the special unit yeah it was all for people on remarked the people that have definitely got something to escape for they're looking at 50 years and all that I'm looking out in the winter and Charlie Bronson was in the cells underneath it was actually under the ground in the hole and I didn't know at the time whether I would ever bump into him I didn't know but I mean I'm in the library and I didn't know that did you know he was in there and I didn't know that I knit a little bit of his Thunder everyone in the positions going to be near Corners in here and it's a baby's founder and this is a really good impression I'm in fact right now and I heard at two o'clock call me I don't know when called me you flash little poop yeah are you my last swear on it yeah say what you want all right I won't say the word he said be with you flashed you bastard he went I'm gonna buy an hole in your chest and suck the [ __ ] life out of you and I [ __ ] it was a very different South London G line on the top of that bunk going wow and the whole prison come alive we've ever enough of the windows going Bronson stuck in Courtney Princess talking we're talking each other and I'm like oh my God remember that voice was gonna eat me tomorrow when Charlie hi Charlie so now I turned him instantly into a best friend on that talk to him every single week he brings me out every week I've had two of his weddings in my Pub already receptions he's a good friend of mine but there the very first one was just scary night for me I'll get treated very well in prison do you reckon that he's ever coming out they're taking a piss a little bit I'll beat you if he's a good friend of mine and I don't want to understand what I'm saying but even if they're not thinking of not letting him out ever because he is you know 30 years in solitary confinement would send anyone yeah of course right and their crime Now isn't saying we're not letting him out he's in that uh their crime is he won't a [ __ ] Nutter when he went anyone they put him in solitary confinement for 30 years as he Stood Beside anyone another way he hasn't said good morning good evening to anyone he hasn't you know you give him and he hadn't sat there with anyone and turn to tell you if you ain't cute enough for anybody yeah he's took him out of real life he's not even used to sitting in a room with someone else watching telly because they've made it 30 or just a bit so they can't sort of let him out I should let him and it's a two it's a two-bladed thing one they should let him at least go out on the normal prison population and silk and mingle and see normal but you know give them their argument if they did there would be one million people in there that want to go out and jerk Charlie Bronson and go I've done Charlie Bronson yeah I couldn't even say the name Charlie Wasa all right they wouldn't listen to some 70 year old used or not and they'd be itching to die him so he either wins the fight and gets back in solitary or loses a fight and goes to hospital if they let him out I know it's an awful awful awful one it's so sad listen hopefully whatever he wants happens for him because he don't deserve what's going on either what's happened it's a bit mad even when I was speaking to Ben Ben was uh in one of the prisons with him as well and he said it's just it's a different ball game when you're in prison with him you better believe it it's a difference portray in every single thing politics war and prison what the Press portray really and truly is not always the truth and prisons prison you've got to do something to get in there yeah I mean it's not a holiday and you've done a year and a half in normal three and a half years when I was 20 21. um I went down for a championship murder for a knife fight in the Chinese restaurant in Forest Hill um you've got charged with that you that was wrong for that yeah I went to the Old Bailey and I got thank you you got found Gary for that and I don't know did you run not guilty for that yeah you run not really yeah have you ever run guilty no never run guilty no I think I did once because for some serious yeah but I've never got another cute way I always add my phone book was already too full a very influential um straight going people that would go caught and swear blind I was with them last night and that is element Adele 25 people swearing on it you know and I'd bring my own witnesses to if I went into a pub to do something I'd have witnesses there going I saw it officer yeah and if I ever did get caught the witnesses would go no that's not him because they're my Witnesses bring my own Witnesses with me it's a small idea it's a [ __ ] smart idea you've never finger it yes bring my own Witnesses with me yeah and when you went first time in prison yeah at 21 you say yeah family mom dad were they like yeah I was um living with a lady at the time yeah yeah um that's that's who prisoners man you know it's not nice to get 15 years there's a bloke going oh wow wow but if your bird is outside yeah she's the one doing 15 years as well with you you don't have to find two Bob you're getting three meals a day she has to stay honest with all of that going on find the money to you know they're the ones that get the bird you get lost in a room no not do whatever that they're the ones has to work and do it and then every time we ring them up we're having a go and we're going ain't you done that yet have you done that ringing up well and I've seen an area all the time and wish that I kicked myself when I went in the women if you're Criminal and everyone has bad days at work whether you're a window cleaner or a cab driver or a butcher you will have a bad day you cut yourself crashing into a bus knock a window out real criminal a bad damage going to [ __ ] prison and the way it cut down bad days is keep her indoors MP because when you're having a rare with her and you go ah shut the [ __ ] off too man you get in the car you are you're going past roads you should go down you're checking yeah when you're doing all that still gotta go work you're still gonna go with all that going on and so will you ever crash knock a window down the wall don't think if you're a criminal don't argue with women makes you make mistakes 100 and then when you're in prison the only two women are still visiting you at the end is your mum and your wife so I only have women off focus on the main people yeah the important ones right my My Philosophy is I look after her indoors as long as that is smiling sometimes you can come out the front door and fight the old world and win sometimes yeah I said happy wife happy life as long as that bit's all right keep that bill right and the rest is doable you don't tell me if you ever have an arrow and end up going to prison before you mended that route you could be in prison for 20 years but because you had that rare that day before you got cool you're doing sorry babe so you look older than that and that's a different kind of a different kind of bird yeah so keep them African important man before I come in here I was Googling your name and it popped up a story about when you look at your nose someone tries to bite your nose off yeah how does someone nearly bite your nose off um there was a there was um like there's many stories I've interviewed loads of criminals but your resume when I'm just reading through it is like right now I'm just getting little parts of it all because you've got like you said loads of little stories 65 years worth so I mean and every single day my friend I promise you this maybe not so much now but every single day of my life for a good 30 years was so exciting and so good storytelling material I never had enough time to tell you how funny it was yesterday because today was really good and funny and then tomorrow I didn't have enough time to tell you about today because that was happening you understand me almost died I was a very lucky man I've had a couple of things in my life where I went when he went to me it would you like to be here would you really like to be and I meant this answer and at the time no one that is our [ __ ] good it was for me at the time in London right I was thinking who would I like to be who would get treated better than Dave Courtney right now in Nursery Square would Brad Pitt his door open to string finish quicker would he get a better bird would you get no so that one I remember I don't want to be anyone else and I remember a gentleman made me a gentleman called Les I had a 5.8 convertible Jaguar XS um and he practically black and I had everything on it Chrome gold plated nice so it was black with going around just at my car and I thought I actually own the prettiest car I have ever seen you actually it was it was awful if he was going out you just sat in it and you couldn't help but you come oh [ __ ] no sense you didn't tell me the story about your nose tell me the story about my nose have a young man they're going to you hear any more money because the drugs are being sold in the club so fighting for the contraction I mean it was either a dormant only an Underpants a week or domain earning without Underpants a night or a thousand pound a night yeah yeah so we were fighting for it and a lot of my doorman were fighting this doorman so ended up at me and him arranged to go somewhere between us and when it gets down to this Pub where it was supposed to be I was just going to go and run in and the two-handed attack with knuckle dusters and that was it but it was people standing outside and because everyone had come to watch me was hadn't gone into the pub till I got there there's 100 people in the pub waiting the garden and I turned up and they said right we've got a search here he's outside he was just honored enough to watch it's not a fair fight it's a fight I'm coming you know there's no more people I was with when I don't use your dusters don't forget it Dave just going anyway so I went out into a back Garden of a part of the games that twice the size of me with knee pads on bullet protectors on going I'm smiling baby or you know the [ __ ] yeah I don't know he caught me on the shoulders and we started walking forward and I wear a quarter arms on my shoes the iron but it's not blakies yeah and he was just walking and I was skating along just getting along like tourventeen and that's like a curve I'll fell down he fell down on top of me was doing about that banging our faces and he looks at me sorry Dave and I thought what's he doing he's older man's and when out on my nose because it was sideways my mouth was filling up with blood and I was like hey I couldn't breathe and it was not there's no words being invented in the dictionary to tell you what that felt like the pain is like if you touch the fridge with an electric shock and you go yeah for a second it was like that for 20 seconds on my uh with 18 Stone skin it hanging off the end of it and the only way I could actually get him to get it off was one of my nose was in his mouth and he was just going ah I had to put it out and as I pulled the air all the stuff on that side his teeth Matt when he got past the baron I know that come off and he read like that because uh pain like a man it's always a good with one finger I would Bang into his eyes I popped out a thing I actually thought wonder if he can sleep what's going on guys this video is being brought to you by Morris Andrews solicitors as you're all aware we've done a season two all about crime if you watch that all and you're in any situation like that and need help getting out of the situation reach out to Morris Andrews solicitors and see if there's something they can help you with remember there's a defense for every offense do you know one thing I've learned about you and I've only been speaking to you for half an hour everything is just like funny and just jokes I wonder if you can go oh and I stayed here I did think that behind it ended up looking like that which looks better but at the time driving to the hospital in an xr3i we had red velor six this broke it was blood or whatever he's panicking I looked at it in the mirror and I would have willingly shot myself in the head because with all that missing I couldn't believe it would grow and I guess you and him went to war after oh that was it no no no no no oh fair enough no everyone disappeared yeah yeah makes sense and moving on from that that was at what age that was 26 27. and he was on he was the head of the head at the minute what age did you take over and become the head um I think that was a real slow progression because the company that I was with luckily for me my mentors were um I was good friends with Joe Powell Freddie Foreman Ronnie and Reggie cray Ronnie Biggs Roy Shaw lady McLean Tony and Chris lambriano they were all really close friends of mine so my learning part of my life to be with about the criminal thing were from perhaps Yeah Yeah from you know so and I'm afraid it didn't give me an awful lot good because nowadays all the things they taught you and handshake read a man by his eyes honestly it's the best policy uh okay don't matter now the more nasty and snidy and slippery and spiteful and bullying and sneak up behind and jerk you up that is how much more you get the respect yeah and I'm afraid um by the time I started doing crime England was still had bomb sites we'd come out with army mentality the crime world and they run their little gang of criminals like the Army yeah and in the army they do it [ __ ] right they're understanding the importance of the pecking order private [Music] outside in the Crown World everyone wants to be in charge it ain't gonna work that way with that as well my dad says to me he goes I'm not scared of the gangster I'm not scared of the old man who's got him because I'm scared of the 15 year old who's been paid 500 quid to do a job right and that's not even speak English nowadays that's the problem they're The Dangerous Ones the little kids I know for a fact fact two months ago someone I know made a fender at the bottom of his road was washing his window screen three grand to drive somewhere up the country with a photograph shoot that person and come back and carry on Muslim window screen three proxy Grand there's people at the end of your road washing with window screens they decades they've come from war-torn countries where life ain't really as important as it is in this continent yeah um oh no these countries and they're collecting pennies in a bucket and kidding people means nothing to them it's nothing they just want the money so if you'd ask him to go up there and for three grand where do you run a criminal world when anyone can be bought to shoot you for three [ __ ] Grand nowadays the name is nothing say Dave Courtney the cray twins run bethnal green when they run both of the green Windows only 15 000 people in Bethel green yeah now there's 250 000 people in bethnal green and they couldn't even say their name kratwick right it's easy running that when everyone spoke and understood English and nowadays they can't even in the British army they have got to have three people this is fact I live in Willis by the Army Baron when I was shout out and Order they've got to do in three different [ __ ] languages because everyone in the Army it's from all over the game yeah yeah he's Nepalese mad and half of them in there I've got skirts on with mustaches you're like wow and the friendly six media every day when I'm supposed to be here on active on active duty in up in the Bosnian business but I'm now back here because I shared at a bloke for wearing eyelashes on Parade he will [ __ ] tell me tell me I'm roaming the British army I don't I don't [ __ ] with all that stuff I don't understand what's happened to them people are switching up this steps I don't know if you look good in eyelashes don't say all that [ __ ] now forget that no I think I think the world's going a little bit mad to be fair here I think it has and I think it was a lot better back in your day when someone had respect because of who he was nowadays no one gives a [ __ ] it doesn't matter who you are already it really matters when you get as old as this and I never had a plan B I never planned on getting to be 64 I didn't do the pension but I never planned on getting here everything I ever did live ending knee sure you know drove stupid I took drugs I drank I played with guns I've been hear everything I did I didn't think I was going to be what I do now I'm 65. I didn't yeah plan on that one right but every era goes I was bearing your day me and I'll say to my mom and dad oh that must have been called in your day and they would say you know so really and truly isn't ended up me isn't heading towards he's inspiring towards your beautiful world is it no I think I think right now we're in a really bad place as well not nice but I think we're gonna ride the wave we'll go for it and we'll just see what happens now not nice I have a question for you Dave next question and think about it before you answer it but do you regret anything you've ever done I have woke up with some very ugly women and I'll regret on with them yet um do I agree with me and I'm cool I can't take you serious London's biggest gangster sitting opposite me and just takes the absolute piss I love it I love it I say you know it's real um make some wrong decisions with women because the decisions I made and I was The Man In Charge all right as I said it's about Sunday night Larry flashmaster don't go and say it is because all my decisions oh I have to be right with the things I'm saying because if I'm wrong the penalty is shall I I'll get another belly button I didn't want or 25 years right around me well they all get 30 years because the bloke like they're juicing two is yeah right so I've got to be right with my friends because the penalty for being wrong with something I decide to do is huge so you get good at it yeah that's true yeah and and of course I've got but there's no I haven't had a 25 years I haven't been nine in hospital with bullet else in my head I've got a running machine you know I haven't got that bad of a thing happened to meter to say oh I really regret already I mean of course I regret getting caught doing this and have a great getting caught by the misses doing that do you regret any other bad [ __ ] you've done in your life or are you one of them people who live their life and I've done it it is what it is if I was to individually meet the people I would be very sorry yeah but um I was a debt collector mate yeah that and that was why it's very easy for me to put my Robin Hood on because Mr Ray Nick's half a million pound off Mr B right my job is to get the money back the methods I used might be horrible nasty and put me in prison it makes me a horrible person but the actual root of the story is I'm getting the money back that he stole how I dig it is what puts me in prison but he at the end of the event says I'm the best guy in the world still going back half a million yeah he would call me the devil you know so you've collected a lot of debt I've collected an overall millions and you're good at it clearly I think so yeah and there must be some stories that you've got there's hundred stories there must be there must be thrown garden furniture through French Windows run into the front room the blokes fell off the back of the city I'm after every whacking him telling him about the money and he goes you want 37b and sent him back to where he was I couldn't do nothing can I you're not man I'm sorry I'm loving myself before Just Gonna Knock on someone's door and give him a little smack and he's sitting indoors watching the FA Cup with [ __ ] nine of his 10 of his mates and come out and give me an idea in the front car a little bit a million a million different stories you understand I mean a million see that that is the issue as well because you have so many stories to you it's all normal as well that is what you was brought up doing like he was a vet collector that was it that's your job it's like if it's habitual yeah just like Charlie Bronson who's now used to being in one room on his own dinner yeah and because that was happening every day that wasn't normal it was normal yeah it really really was you know it really was if you didn't know where to get something done you knew that doorman emotional you know if you know if you wanted your car repossessed squads thrown out someone to give your daughter's boyfriend to come around the arrow for bringing around with a black eye if you did the doorman do it so I had a I had a job center for Naughty men for big giant bald Eddies flatten those excuses all week they were doing nothing apart from sitting in a gym and on Friday Saturday and Sunday I was working in a club for me so I was a job setting up for all these muscly blows yeah which actually in my eyes that was what it was in the Authority's eyes after the after the croatians funeral and uh the first showing of organized crime and Dave no one man should have an army like this in the in the country apart from the Army you know that's not right and um it put the attention of Dave Courtney to the general public because in the morning it was air sort of throne and all that celebrity getting all that and it also brought me to the attention of the authorities that the very next day they went knock him on the head every Club I adore when they went get rid of the Courtney storm I know you want to tell you for you won't have a license for a Telly you don't got no more films he's no more magazines you don't go in the paper no more finish is that what they're all done that's what they done so all that propelled me into some kind of criminal um stardom it actually finished me off as a criminal once everyone in England knew what I looked like my job was raining in someone's house and debt collecting now they can go it was Dave Courtney I know I must say anyone to tell you I know he is I can't get out my car and go bang yeah because it gives you'll go Steve Courtney I know it is oh it it made me instantly redundant so today I got famous as a celebrity gangster which is now I was actually all right are you retired and go stop the rider want to get off I finished yeah that's mad though when you when you really think of it a lot of people think oh yeah let's you're going to start like you're going to be the main man but [ __ ] you up yeah they brought out a new law there's a new law I think about three years ago they're in involved in this lawyers you cannot glamorize crime and in that little city law that they slip through um that means I can't be in any films they've stopped me getting a Powerball can't go to America I can't be on the radio I can't be on a journalist have been around about me for 30. I know him he's been writing about me for years I know him he went down we're not allowed to write anything nice about here by law so they can't I'm not allowed anything it's got Dave Courtney in it has to be flagged to Scotland Yard first and if it isn't detrimental to you we're not allowed to mention your name virgin went yes we're probably just your books but I'm not allowed to put a poster up going Dave's got a new book out because the poster is glamorizing crime wow Vinnie Jones can play you in a film because he's a footballer but you can't actually be in the film because you've been in real life so we can't even though you have changed your life isn't naturally I am if they used to be properly but don't do it today mate I don't think you're pitting your wits against the Sherlock Holmes policeman you're trying to beat [ __ ] technology and you want you will go to prison everyone out there is across your phone's across your cars across the [ __ ] doorbells of grass the cameras you know when I was out rubbing things [ __ ] me man listen why everyone wasn't around rubber I don't know because he bought a CCTV camera you'll get three old ladies sitting behind a bit of glass like that no checkbooks no cards no no cash 200 Grand under 90 grand 300 Grand and 140 Grand cash big sign on the wall in the back of the bank saying no have a go Heroes we're insured so you went in and went sweet with some money there's no chills that went up no machine guns policemen never had radios no helicopters nothing the only bad luck you could have is if you walked out the bank with all this money there was a copper standing on the on the thing and then he would chase you down the road with a [ __ ] whistle please please you'd come out with all this money and he'd chase you down and ride a whistle and a little bit of wood and you just go four hundred dollars cash sweet all right yeah well so you can you didn't even have to save up as soon as you run Echo bang bang you are not supposed to be a criminal there's a different world uh building thousands of new prisons all over the place because two House people that are filled for that gangster dream it is a historical romantic word Like Pirates Cowboys Knights and Shining Armor and gangsters they are all famous Naughty Boy figures of the past but ain't no more you can't go to court and say the computer game was too fun and the song was too violent and the lyrics in the MC and there's no green here with me to play on so I robbed the bank well that made me mug the broken and [ __ ] you know you can't say that it's in your jeans yeah everyone gets caught now that is the problem like you said technology is too sharp like you said yeah and I'm afraid doorbell's a snitch speaking on on their behalf to youngsters I can't afford the nice trainers I've got no money whatsoever my dad's only put on I'm sitting here on a council estate I can't go out there without a chip because everyone or I could go out there start shooting and I can get these trainers see out there and make some Mason all that but I ain't going out there now and all this [ __ ] clothes no money I kind of bought a bag of chips no one's got nothing or shop yeah there's a way out for them so well I don't know what yeah I'm saying don't but what else can they do don't go into crime and then not give them a an alternative alternative I can't do that yeah not in reality it is it's the truth what you're saying is the truth there's no say to me now what we're going to do about the youth of today Dave and we're going to mend this oh if you want to if you want me to give you a little note what I believe has happened right I believe it went wrong in this country when they stop giving cage the [ __ ] kind right because telling me that they're gonna give me a detention if I do something wrong wouldn't stop me [ __ ] wouldn't stop you or not and look at it I'm saying I'm gonna smack you of course you're awesome just like my word six times tonight if you misbehave that slows you down a bit yeah yeah all right and in school is you they teach you see you more than your parents right and you've got no now no you're coming back here for an hour and then some clever bastards some really clever bastard said oh and your mum and dad can't smack you yeah that's [ __ ] really and when we send your kids to school we're going to teach you every one of your kids to be a [ __ ] gross I'm going to teach him if if your mum smacks you ring 332-99551 and we'll put your mom in prison how's that so they're teaching you what has gone wrong because my mum used to smack me and go don't shout out I remember one my brother broke the thing and she said who don't know when it was him I've got here put don't chill there was once I was in there I'll teach you in school in my mom's car I never had a really bad day in school I had a fight with some kid whatever I've got in the car my mom asked me a question I said Mom I don't want to talk now she set me so hot my nose was pouring out with blood I said mama need a tissue she goes hold use your [ __ ] hand yeah but that is what teaches you discipline nowadays you've got the kids saying to their parents mum do this right you think that's why because they've got a whole school in with no discipline the whole parenting has now gone with no discipline in there they can't actually go [ __ ] if your dad did actually go would you do you go 99332. you can't do nothing and then they get to 17 and they're out on the road looking for work and they're going are you going to control them you can't you can't start for 17 years and then go right to teach that it's impossible I'm afraid there's a no-win situation it's spiraling our control this country yes country glad I've lived my little bit and I'll come to the end this country is your end's not there yet slow it down don't be saying things like that just well I'm happy Diner now I've met you at the beginning let me tell you if this place tastes like it looks you've tasted it tell me oh it's beautiful it was sexual food situated me yeah you've really you love all that [ __ ] don't yeah you're a bit Ellie said on a more serious look now yeah yeah you spoke earlier on about your son yeah murdered yeah talk to me at a point blank rate date eight nine years ago and was that and they found a culprit and and he's in prison now doing 30 years was that that Duty or something he wasn't an angel kind of way he wasn't that was due to him one of my six children going down the path to iTunes yeah narcotics which were not my chosen path crime as a young man was mine you got 20 criminals when I was 20. he would have had a bank robber an hijacker a safe cracker you get to any criminals now it's all narcotics related I'm afraid my son um got a little bit involved in that end he's not here and do you still have people called you issues because of who you are today people causing new issues because of who you are today um not to my face but I'll get a lot of people causing issues for me today you know not not to my face but receives the invention of computer I'll get a few death threats every single surgery week I'll get all this I've got one from Botswana Dave before yesterday I don't even know anyone just calling me a fat bastard I'm a grass and a wanker you know I I don't my front door is open my front gate's open I apologize I've got no trouble with people in real life but you get the odd one or two that once they meet Dave Courtney I'm not six foot six I'm not 23 Stone I am 65 I'm gonna go well I'll do acid but you've got you've got a good phone book there I've got a scary phone yeah you've got a good good phone cocky spoon I've ever seen if I was in any bit of trouble in the world in any country I think especially this country with whoever whoever if you let me catch my phone I will [ __ ] you and if you let me get to my phone I'd reader and that's all I am mate not the best fight not me I've got a scary phone book yeah yeah I saw you that is actually plasterers no plasterers but he's got footballers very much I was a criminal I've figured it would do anything and you've got a respected name as well so you've got people out there Bradley carried that um the Yellow Pages of the underworld and Monica oh I proudly held him up if the rest of the world are looking at me as the typical English gangster I'll take that job on board very very seriously and show the world what I'm supposed to be you understand I mean I'm some romantic and stupid like that your house you've told me a little bit about this house yeah but it's a castle Your Castle my apologies castle and um I've literally built it into into into a castle it's called Camelot all the flags and uh what you got in the garden in the garden we've got a big Sword in the Stone we've got we've got Bob we've got 16 seated jacuzzi we have a massive big sit down under undercover 20 barbecue [ __ ] me um a ball riding thing which is a new Washington a nightclub the old 300 people a three-story 50 Shades of Gray dungeon which I make the films and the and the magazine things and all that you know through the end Summer's cat walk but they didn't do all of that there yeah yeah when can I pop around yeah as soon as you get into a bed next time next party make sure I get an invite to that I look forward to come to it but now listen Dave what I have got to say is I could sit here and ask you for hundreds of your stories yeah you've got more stories than any man I've had on here and to you it's normal you can't sit here and tell me Mikey this is the most important story this is the craziest I know it's hard this is that story because he's your hero because you don't give a [ __ ] about any of it you've done it now it's done tick that box it's done and it's all I can say to you is one thing I will say is you're the most unserious serious man I've ever met you're such a chilled laid-back happy guy but but probably got the strongest phone book I've ever said okay I'll carry this whatever this is into whatever Walk of Life I mean Chef I'm in the Naughty Boy world and I'm in a room full of naughty people this is the one you get they're all too busy doing your eyebrows this is the one you get and this normally is the one that men's things here we can all do that and do a thing yeah but this is the one that's important isn't it yeah yeah you know I think that is that is I give you the respect for that because when I I interview a lot of ex-criminals criminals gangsters wannabe gangsters a whole lot and they all sit opposite me and put on a Persona they try and be the Hard Knock they try and intimidate you when they're telling a story I've done this year I've done that you sit here smiling guy yeah I [ __ ] caved his face it jumped through it was the wrong guy like you to you it's it's funny and I think it's so good that you can still because it must be you've gone through [ __ ] just work for someone like myself that does every living and I know I can explain that is if a bricklayer don't come on with his Trail all day long [ __ ] in the front room start building brick walls in the kitchen and I don't run around the kitchen with a gun sending my message it's children to train on site at work and when you go home you shut the front door she's just a bloke and the one where the tips is in charge she's in charge what uniform have you got on copper sergeant major prison officer judge when you go on they're in charge don't they and off I'm one of them I'm impact impact I I didn't actually think that's how you'd be so you're going to a better gangster's home no listen all I will say is listen it's a pleasure having you on the show that's been nice man I don't I you have allowed me just to Rabbit about normal food but that's what I want I don't think you've got something a little bit different because all your other podcasts I said when I was coming up here I don't want to know who you've done this to who you've done that to because it's all out there go and watch it you want to see it God nothing to do anything but so much if you want to be everyone on my hair fantastic but um disappear into slippery bar so I had a pair of gloves and I've got a magic marker and I wrote Nigel Benz yeah yeah signature on the glove and I'm up there doing the auction afterwards I'm sending Nigel Ben's gloves and I've got a two and a half done I've got two and a half cheek will make me remember this because your boy lived in Chickasha maybe bring this story out it's a few years ago anyways I even uh you know Nigel and yeah good friend of mine below pictures of me and Nigel so he bought him for 200 quid it was and then afterwards was all the people that were there sitting there signing uh yeah yeah [ __ ] programs and he's queuing up and I thought I guess you must want to sign a program and he went oh no but you still see Nigel now I went yeah I do he said would you tell him that there's two ends in Ben that's a really funny story for you to keep me yeah so there's your money back numbers aren't nothing but keep the club that's a funny story you're in the two engine guys how did you get that one wrong though I'm diving but listen honestly thank you for coming on pleasure having you on the show oh we'll throw you a few interesting characters that would be good for you so I'll do it up here yeah Wicked I appreciate it yeah a pleasure to see you soon pleasure to see you and I'll see you again soon thank you very much don't forget me when you have one of them parties in the nightclub make sure

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Keywords: The Head Of London's Mafia - David Courtney Ep|40, gangster, london, ex, dave courtney, eventful entrepreneur, podcast, crime, story, edit, gang, movie star, drugs, criminal, mikey melin, the bluetick show, murder story, crime story podcast, crime story uk, mafia, london gangster, london gangs documentary, london gangster interview, london gangsters meet, london gangsters documentary, london gang interview, london gangsters interview, mafia definitive edition, true crime documentary 2023

Id: qXZ4Q-vI9o8

Length: 58min 43sec (3523 seconds)

Published: Sun Jun 11 2023