The Evolving Ape-man: Dividing Fact from Fiction

[Music] in 1 chronicles 12:32 we read about the sons of Issachar who had understanding of the times and I want to ask us do we have understanding of the times do we know what is happening in our Western world we see the collapse of the Christian fabric the collapse of the Christian worldview why is that because a foundation has been removed and the structure is collapsing what foundation the foundation of the authority of the word of God it's about time God's people went out there unashamedly uncompromising least oould in the Word of God and said this is what it's all about proclaimed the gospel of Jesus Christ show that we can defend our faith if we start standing on the Word of God that's what's gonna change this nation alright well good afternoon welcome my name is Brian Osborne glad you're here with us today at 12 o'clock for hopefully this very exciting session now welcome to the Ministry of Answers in Genesis if you're new to us we have speakers and resources we have the Creation Museum and the Ark Encounter located in Northern Kentucky shut down for right now but Lord willing opening up hopefully soon to his glory and for his will and before is actually proclamation of the gospel and really what we're all about if you're new to us we're about equipping Christians to defend their faith in particular where the attack is happening today to stand on God's Word answer skeptical questions defend the faith and proclaim the gospel effectively and that's really what this particular session will be all about this session is entitled the evolving apeman dividing fact from fiction that's what a lot of this session is all about like Answers news really critically thinking through what's presented today as proof for evolution in particular human evolution this particular talk and really this question comes down to who are we and where did we come from and you can approach this question or those questions from two different foundational angles either a we start with God's Word we trust the eyewitness account of the creator and we build our thinking from there or option two reject God's Word and then man's word is all you're left with is your ultimate authority and he become that becomes your foundation for understanding all of present-day reality even where we come from and who are we and these are two different foundational views and they could not be more different within the biblical worldview the Bible tells us that God originally think about this he made a perfect creation originally no death no suffering no disease it was perfection and as the drabness as the crowning jewel of god's creation he made mankind in His image we are the crowning jewel of God's creation made in His image what a what an amazing privilege right and it tells us in his word that he made them male and female and guys this foundational history that were made in God's image both male and female is the foundation after him so many of the secular questions of this age questions like what about abortion and what about euthanasia and what about racism what about social justice and what about sexism what about genders etc well the way we answer those biblically speaking we use biblical doctrines that are founded right here in the book of Genesis and in the beginning God made them male and female in His image that's where our value comes from that's who we are from a biblical perspective and the Bible's clear that all people throughout all of history can trace their family tree back to one man one woman Adam and Eve that means biblically speaking there's only one race the human race little calls of man's sin back in Genesis chapter 3 things are getting worse over time death and the Kate into this world because of man's sin and things are running down over time and then because we all descend from Adam we're all sinners by nature and consequently by choice and that's why we all need saving through the last Adam Jesus Christ and see the quick connection to the gospel that's a biblical perspective but what about the secular worldview what about their perspective on where we come from we're going to secularism that religion and their tenant of evolution it all began with the big bang roughly 14 billion years ago when essentially nothing exploded and produced everything it's the general idea you perform roughly 4.5 a billion years ago and then around 3.5 billion years ago life came from non-life and all those ideas are violating known laws of science and then that life started off simple and then evolved from there like the textbooks tell us this one says you are an animal and share common heritage with earthworms did you need some encouragement during this quarantine time oh there you go you're got you're related to an earthworm more or less and then what about this particular textbook it says monkeys Asian humans there are all examples of primates so we're loved with the primates for just an animal that most likely evolved from a small insect eating rodent like mammal that lived roughly somewhere out sixty million years ago and what is this exotic ancestor of us all here she is right there the mother of all mammals basically a rat which if we descend from a rat that gives a whole new meaning to the term rat race right or the sex book but all researchers agree on certain basic facts and notice the dogmatic language of this textbook all researchers agree on basic facts what are those facts we know that humans evolved from ancestors we share with other living primates such as chimps and apes etc and so within the secular ideology we evolved from an ape-like ancestor over millions of years and this has been taught as fact throughout now multiple generations in America throughout the West and even around the world and so human evolution basically suggests this that there's a comment ape-like ancestor in the past that evolved ever into multiple branches and one of those branches became us and we are evolving bigger and better and smarter ever times we keep evolving in the right direction one day we'll become as a god more or less what's that idea should sound familiar he goes back all the way to Genesis chapter 3 but how do we know all these pictures and all these things taught in the zoos and the museums and textbooks is real what is the evidence for these pictures how do we know this stuff to be true well because we know it's true from a secular perspective burgers Luger we got great pictures like this one we got pictures of the eight man the eight men prove according to secular thinking human evolution so technically these eight men would be our grandparents but what is the actual evidence for these ape men and really what we got to know really know about this as we dive into this issue ultimately the explanations for our origins where we come from who are our ancestors Adam and Eve or the ape men ultimately this comes out to a worldview issue this is so important to grab a hold of because recognize all scientists biblical or secular have all the same stuff in the present the same bones in the present the same DNA in the present but here's the key they interpret those things differently in the present and made different guesses about where those things came from their origin and thus their age based on their different starting assumptions about the unseen past based on their different worldviews and guys here is the key as if we say all the time if you start with the wrong assumptions trusting man's ideas over God's Word you'll get the wrong conclusions my guys also very important to recognize especially within Christianity these two different worldviews cannot consistently be put together on this issue of origins of where we come from they could not be more different reminder the story the little girl went to her daddy one day she said hey daddy where did people come from he said well honey you see God made Adam and Eve and and they had kids and their kids have kids and their kids have kids and eventually get the human race she said okay so she went to her mom she said mom where did people come from she said well honey there are these ape-like creatures that lived millions of years ago and they're big began to evolve slowly over time and eventually they became people she said okay so she went back to her dad she said dad I'm confused you see you told me that God made us and mom told me we came from monkeys who's right he said honey that's easy you see I told you about my side the family tree and she told you about hers no all right wrong assumptions wrong conclusions your worldview plays a pivotal role and how you understand the present-day evidence so let's look at what is he so-called scientific evidence for this presented throughout the zoos museums etc etc well supposedly only the best evidences for human evolution are the caveman and worthy cavemen real well you got to define your terms and by the way that's always really important define your terms and we do answers news we go through the articles you got to define the terms are being used and those the context and separate the fact from the fiction like we're gonna do here but define your terms what do you mean by a caveman because people live in caves today if they're history and they're just people right cavemen are men who live in caves this used to be the world's most wanted cave man some of you might recognize that guy if someone bin Laden or maybe you might recognize this guy he was a walnut cave man for a long time or maybe cavemen you think of this the old Geico commercials so easy a caveman can do it but again people today live in caves multiple places around the world like here in Australia their homes and caves are very efficient for multiple reasons and very hot environments actually many biblical characters lived in caves for periods of time they're totally human but most of the time when people say caveman what they're really saying what they really mean what the sickness our teaching is about the ape-men that these eight men are what they mean by cavemen so what are the eight men and are they is there any really good evidence from even a secular perspective for the eight men what is the proof that's presented as proof for the eight men we're gonna dive into that throughout this entire session and as we do guys again as a title suggests we'll separate the fact from the fiction what are the actual tangible facts and what are the fictional interpretations from a secular worldview that lead them astray but they're propagated as actual tangible evidence to separate the fact from the fiction and before we do that though let me answer a very popular question people ask all the time about the eight men I'd understand why people ask and it seems like a good question but it's not actually rebutting what the evolutionists teach and that is this manuals say okay but hey if human evolution is true from a Christian perspective even non-believers if human evolution is true then why don't we see ape man or ape women forming today isn't she lovely right so if evolution happen if Apes evolved into people over time why our age evolving the people today and people say since we don't see it happening today that proofs have a human evolution must be wrong but guys that's here's the thing the evolutionist don't teach that age today evolved into humans that's not what's actually taught within with an evolutionary teaching what they teach is that all the primates and we're lumped into the primates they teach that all the primates evolved in parallel at the same time so all the changing occurred in the unseen past which is very convenient and bottom line they suggest suggests this that there's one common primate ancestor for all the primates living today including us and secular thinking and from that common primate ancestor it branched off into many different branches that evolved at the same time two different things like apes monkeys gorillas humans etc they evolved at the same time and secular thinking and that's why we don't see age today evolving into humans because that's a different branch all together and they all come from a common ape-like ancestor but this also creates problems for the secularists because they believe this that means they can't use age today or Apes in the fossil record as evidence for evolution what they have to have then is some sort of half-man half-ape an ape-man something they would call a hominid a human a human ancestor and that's why these eight men are so important desperately so to the evolutionists and as it turns out there are basically three distinct ways that the secularists today make an 8-man here they are in no particular order they find a bones and dress them up like a human they upscaled those eight bones and create an ape-man or they find human bones dress them up like an ape and downscaled a man to an ape-man or find eight bones and human bones and add some imagination put them together and create an amen and each case is based on a wrong interpretation based on a different worldview and it's all based on a secular ideology and so it's all based on what assumptions do you start with which foundation are you build your thinking from keep that am I so what is the track record in the past of these so-called eight men as good proof for evolution let's look at some of these very quickly this is pretty entertaining and sad and different ways if you think about it but some of the track records Piltdown man discover back in or presented us proof back in 1912 the New York Times newspaper declared Darwin theory proved true and Oracle to go through and say that it is true true Piltdown man was used in the famous goats Monkey Trial back in 1925 as proof for human evolution that trial was a very famous trial that really put Christianity on trial against evolution and they proclaimed evolution as true at that particular point in different ways what was Piltdown man well it was an ape-like jaw ball lower part of the jaw and some sort of human skullcap and these parts were discovered back in Piltdown over and Piltdown england in 1908 and 1912 the same Piltdown man and these fragments were used as proof for evolution for 40 years now keeping a mind presented in textbooks and science journals and museums and etc as proof revolution for over 40 years claimed to be a 500,000 to 1 million year old intermediate link from apes to humans what was Piltdown man in reality a deliberate fraud discoverer so in 1953 after 40 years of indoctrination from a secular perspective what were those pieces in reality well we know the teeth and jawbone were that of an orangutan they've been dead for roughly 50 years clearly ape the teeth had been filed down to look more humanoid like a transition from ape to human see there somewhere between they've been filed down to look like that and then the skull cap and the jaw were stained the same color to look like they were old and they were related they carbon dated the human skull to be roughly 500 700 years old even then they're all secular assumptions and really felt that man is one of the greatest hoaxes of all time in secular science and discovered after 40 years of indoctrination but not before teaching multiple generations that evolution must be true and guys think about it if evolution is true the Bible's clear here three is false and if the Bible's clear history is false why trusted about morality or salvation for multiple generations this was undermining biblical authority as a cylinder doing today in different ways and these different so-called ape-men another example what about Nebraska man discovered back in 1922 supposedly good evidence for human evolution claim to be a 1 million year old intermediate link also using the Scopes Monkey Trial back in 1925 so what evidence that they have to create Nebraska men and make that drawing you see in there before you well first let me tell you what they did not have they did not have a skeleton let's call or even a job all so what did they have to make this very elaborate detail drawing of Nebraska man and his wife well these were scientifically built from a tooth yes that's right a single tooth to create that drawing guys even Sherlock Holmes would be impressed by that sort of deductive reasoning power all right that's some really that's really just kind of using your imagination and a large degree and so they kept researched and kept digging that particular area found more bombs collected to connected to that tooth it turns out that tooth did not belong to a man at all that tooth the law to extinct variation of pig there is the real Nebraska man right there and as my friend dr. Terry Mortensen says this is the first time in history that a pig made a monkey of a man truly is or Rama Pittacus discovered back in the 1930s they found a very ape-like jawbone and from this they got this some sort of hominid kind of transitioning from ape to human kind of walking semi upright and this was supposedly proof for evolution from that one jawbone as this circular sad psycho scientist and Time magazine back in 1977 it's a Rembrandt Pittacus is ideally structure to be an ancestor of hominids if he isn't we don't have anything else that is it's kind of telling on the motivation what was Rama Pittacus in reality well it claimed to be a fourteen million year old intermediate link but in truth it was very similar to a baboon discovered back in Ethiopia back in 1970 had a similar dental structure as that particular baboon and similar body structure as well and then promptly it was dropped from the human line at that particular time so just real quick a summary of the facts thus far tilde man was a deliberate hoax Nebraska man was a pig rabbit Pittacus was just in it just to ape and in each case the secular dates in the initial findings of all those rivets were wrong by off they're off by more than 500,000 years in each case sometimes close to a million years that's a summary of the facts thus far a few other examples of the track record of the eight men in history you got Boxgrove man very detailed picture a BOTS Grove man and a relative there in the background as well what do they have to draw a box Grove man they had one shin bone one shin bone to draw that again it shows the power of people's worldview on this issue or Ardipithecus ramidus could dabeh say that three times really fast all right I dare you but variations of the different artistic is's out there but here's one of them presented as proof revolution back in Time magazine here was the evidence for our pickets ramidus could dab up that whole mess of balls very fragmented as they typically are and when they they set from all those balls all the bones very ape-like besides one particular bone one of the bones looked very human which bone was at a single toe bone that bone right there looked very human but here's the thing about that bone that bone that toe bone was found 11 miles away from the other pieces of the fossil that you're looking at in a different layer of dirt found 11 miles away actually all the bones you're looking at right now were spread over nine miles so this is called some to ask was this the first suicide bomber all right and was he wearing a nuclear bomb to spread those bombs over nine miles hey guys we look throughout history eight men had been deduced from things like alligator bones horse balls bare bones elephant balls donkey bones even dolphin balls have been deduced to be eight men and improving to be wrong why well for lots of reasons number one the worldview issue is the biggest issue and then also lack of fossils to work with we got to realize that less than 1% of all fossils are vertebrate fossils and only a fraction of that are land vertebrates and guys 95% of all land of all land vertebrate fossils there one bone or less one bone or less so they're wide open to interpretation as this secular scientist says everybody knows fossils are fickle bones will sing any song you want to hear and that is definitely definitely true you can example this thing about it like this what do you found a piece of very ape-like jaw ball there it is right there so a piece of a bra and if they try thinking thinking to yourself as a maybe a secular evolutionist how do I interpret this piece of jaw ball it looks a fish well you could put that jaw that piece of jawbone put it in a very rounded jawbone and give it small incisors and small canine teeth don't put large gaps between those teeth and what you have there is some sort of in-between jawbone between Asian humans must belong to a Hamid and ancestor therefore the bloss of human evolutionary line and that gets live attention and of course helps support your research and support your ideology more importantly but what if you applied that same job on and put it just in a regular ape job all that's very you shaped with large canines large incisors gaps between the canines and incisors well if you have that it's just nothing but a dead ape same little piece two very different interpretations based on your starting assumptions your worldview and your motivations a great example of this interpretational bias and well how this plays such a big role is Lucy if I heard of Lucy we'll come back to Lucy in more detail here in a bit but there are over a hundred different depictions of Lucy from a secular perspective based on the interpretations of fragmentary evidence you see these literally all over the we'll see some more later all this secular scientist says few scientists produce such abundant returns from so few fragments as paleontology in the study of fossils as this secular scientist says against secular scientists the problem with a lot of anthropologists those who study the human fossil record and say human history that is that they want so much to find a hominid a human ancestor that any scrap of bone becomes a hominid bone again ultimately this is a worldview issue we build our thinking from our foundation worldview we're motivated by our worldview and if you start with the wrong assumptions as the secularists do you will get the wrong conclusions bottom line is this they're really trusting man's best guess about history over God's clear revealed Iowans account about history and again wrong assumptions wrong conclusions keep that thought in mind and so what is currently suggested as the best evidence for these eight men this human evolution presented from the secularists and I put the work currently in quotation marks why because this is always changing if I updated this talk for every new piece of supposed human evolution that proved presented and different papers this talk would be five to ten hours long and keep getting longer so I'll give you just kind of a basic framework of some of the generally currently things presented as proof for human evolution and what I really want you to kind of focus in on I want to really just exposed the trends expose the pattern that happens throughout history how a piece of evidence is presented as proof for evolution used for a while and then typically later on found out not to be related to humans at all and then swept and then swept underneath the rug and so once you really see the pattern and once you I want us to learn how to think critically and biblically as we look at these different evidences and as new evidences are presented in the future we can still think critically and biblically remember these core principles so here's the general flow of what's generally currently presented as proof for human evolution you will see in the textbook in the zoos and museums if you get a natural history museums around the world or read the textbooks or watch National Geographic you have something basically like this they'll be suggested there's a hominid day which is the ancestor of all primates living today according to secular thinking maybe lived roughly 30 to 40 to 50 million years ago estimates vary depending on who you're asking and it's all basically guesswork right now from even the secular perspective and then after the hominid day they would suggest maybe there's some variation of the rampant thickets roughly around 14 million years ago with Rama Pittacus and then you got the Austria Pitt the Saints on the scene roughly 2 to 3 to 4 million years ago depending on who you ask these numbers change a lot after our history and currently as well but that's the general trend and those are really just distinct apes see from once you actually look at the actual data we'll see that as we go through and therefrom they jump to what are clearly humans you get to the homo erectus which is humans post-flood humans most likely then you get different variations of homo sapiens and the endo Thals modern man Java man etc etc etc and what kind of go through each one of these should the general trend and how the evidence is presented manipulated and then discarded over time and I want you to grab hold that train to think about it biblically critically also by the way did you know before we kind of go any further today modern humans are typically called homo sapien sapien right homo sapien sapien why well I'll give you a hint look at the world look at what the word sapien means we'll come back to it at the end of the talk because I think it's very it's a key and then we'll and understanding what's going on today why it's happening today but we're called homo sapien sapien but what about the hominid day what does he supposed evidence for this ancestor of all primates living today well for a long time the seculars thought that yo simius was the ancestor of all primates living today what was yo simius well as a lemur like monkey suggested to live roughly 30 to 40 million years ago how did they know anything about you see me at all well they found these two bones right here two jaw bones the size of grains of rice that's it for yo simius and from those two jaw bones they concluded that new simius was I nocturnal had large saucer-like eyes and flitted about the treetops again even Sherlock Holmes will be impressed by that sort of deduction or depressed right and this little critter right here is seem shocked that we reached that conclusion this guy's still around today probably what they're looking at more or less in those small fragments not an ancestor to all primates living today just a variation of a tree like lemur like monkey so even me this was kind of swept under the rug more or less and that's why back in 2009 Ida got such fanfare some of you might remember this Ida I was presented as proof of evolution the missing link that we've been looking for all this time when Ida was unveiled to the public back in 2009 Ida got a website she got a book a documentary series on the History Channel all released at the same time to really push this teaching that Ida is the ancestor of us all she was called upon her unveiling to the public the 8th wonder of the world the holy grail of evolution the Rosetta Stone unveiling all these mysteries to us and because they thought they'd found the missing lake even many evolutionists were willing to admit evolution is finally confirmed finally hasn't been confirmed as of yet but now this fossil it confirms it and by the way you see this language all the time it's repeated again and again and again and even this secular says there's no longer a missing link what's implied there there was a missing link but now we got us now we can feel free to declare there's not a missing link anymore Ida was actually put on the Google logo well she was unveiled to the public and guys that is big-time well you're put on the Google logo you've hit big time so 2009 she's called the eighth wonder of the world 2010 Ida is declared a dead monkey what happened well they kept looking at the bones and the more they looked at the wrong bones the more experts looked at the balls they realized this is nothing but a monkey like creature a lemur like creature nothing to do with being an ancestor to the primates living today including us what do we learn from Ida well Ida is a lemur like creature Ida is a great fossil she's very well preserved which is that's all the hallmarks of a rapid burial like during a flood maybe even a global flood and subscribed in God's Word I know also we learned that the evolutionists they open up about what they're missing when they think they found what they're missing you see that a lot and then what happens is this that Ida after she was revealed to be nothing but a dead primate of some sort some Sun deadly more like monkey she swept underneath the rug with significantly less fanfare than what she was initially unveiled with so they give her all this publicity about how she is the missing link and then when she found what she has found not to be the missing link they quietly sweep her under the rock but still leaving the impression that this proves evolution to be true and guys this is the pattern it truly is you see again and again and again unveil two large fanfare and then swept underneath the rug but still leaving the impression evolution must be true and this is a great example of upscaling and a fossil as we talked about earlier nothing but an ape up scale to be humanoid a hominid so that leads us to Rama Pittacus what was the initial finding for Rama Rama Pittacus oh this is what they had right here from those pieces of jaw ball for Rama Pittacus they went from that to that there's Rama Pittacus right there it's a pretty big jump right knows the whites around the eyes that's distinctly human and the eyes are preserved in the fossil record that's artists reconstruction and as we found more better bones or I'm a pizza kiss we know that their skulls looked like this the one in the middle very much like an orangutan and that's all it was some sort of dead variation of orangutan or something along those lines and evidently these guys think it's hilarious that we think we're related to them or their ancestors so track records are on this thus far for a hominid me today no common ancestor and for Rama Pittacus just an extinct or dead orangutan I'm by the way notice please there supposedly millions of years of evolutionary human evolutionary history with absolutely no tangible evidence for any of that evolution just assumed to be true and Lucien err ideology but presented as fact in textbooks zoos museums and then to replace ramicus you got Auto pentakus ramidus which is already presented years ago as proof for evolution supposedly a four million year old missing link and I love what we read about as she was unveiled again unveiled to a lot of fanfare to the public as proof revolution what's the evidence for the pictures you're looking at right now for what they called RT well here's the evidence that mishmash of fragmented bolts it took them 15 years to sort out all those bones and I love this quote follow along with me on the quote all discovery of Artie she was found a very bad condition these badly broken elements such as the untrained eye so you if you're not trained in evolutionary ideology you can't really understand these things such as the untrained eye sees here were interpreted by professional paleontologists put in evolutionary paleontologists with a worldview and with the aid of specialized specialized computer software which that software's is made by a person with a worldview with assumptions into a scientific opinion secular ideology about Rd skeleton or bodily form but she looked like how she walked around etc etc and so doing all that based on their ideology based on their worldview they went from this to that to that fragmented evidence interpreted with a world within a world view to get their conclusions they had a whole Discovery Channel special released with the unveiling of RT to the public and they shared how they they put her together they took all the fragments interpreted them with a secular evolutionary worldview to put it together the way they think she went together based on evolutionary thinking I said they went from that and then they completed the skeleton made her walk upright although the bones implied ape-like locomotion and then they put all put on all the flesh the bones they fill in the gaps they're put on the muscles and the hair and then they did this it took a human put motion sensors on the human had to email walk around and climb a trace trees and then put the flesh of our T all in the human with computer CGI to make already kind of walk like a human but look like an ape and this was shown to millions of people around the world through the Discovery Channel and it's very convincing it looks really good the CGI is really well done but it's all based on an interpretation based on the sake of the worldview not on the actual fragment or bone fragments themself as this secular scientist says but there already is just some sort of extinct a probably orangutan of some variation of that just a stink tape the secular scientist says fossil evidence of human evolutionary history is fragmentary it really is and open to various interpretations so thus far common ancestor we don't know who it is even a circular thinking right if it gets just an esteemed variation of orangutan same thing with already some extinct or dead ape now what about Austria pit the scenes the also repent the scenes are maybe the most famous of the hominids of the ape men they're different variations of the Austria pit the scenes here's one and if you notice the artistry construction about the Austria pay the scenes here notice how this one's looking into the future gazing out into the distance contemplating the meaning of life obviously standing upright like a human human posture given human hands and the use of tools and the most famous Austria P the scenes is this one it's called Lucy you've probably heard of Lucy right and Lucy Austria put the scenes at Forenza supposedly one of the best evidences of human evolution release was taught that way for a very long time now she's falling out of favor a bit still presented as proof of evolution but she was used for a very long time as the ultimate proof for evolution in human evolutionary thinking so what's been a little bit time I've just kind of de bunking Lucy because of a special place in evolutionary history so how did they find it Lucy well Donald Johanson went to Africa to find Lucy back in the 1970s he went there with a grant to find a missing link so notice his motivation he went there to find he's looking for something in particular to confirm his starting assumption and he found Lucy about two weeks before his great money ran out according to some sources so it seems to make you wonder about the motivation there but anyway you found Lucy then and her bones were discovered while they're listening to the song Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds by the Beatles and that's how she got the name Lucy now they found around 25% of her total fossil that's it and she was going to be roughly 3.5 million year old enemy link and claim to walk up right like a human but again this is fragmentary evidence it's wide open to interpretation so if you put those bones and more of an ape-like framework like they seem to fit very well Lucy had long arms and short legs like Apes today but you you could also squeeze those arm balls together to make them shorter spread the leg bones out to make the legs longer and to make it look more human to make her a hominid a human ancestor and so same evidence again but two very different interpretations based on two very different worldviews and guys the second interpretation dominates the landscape of these bones and she's presented as proof for human evolution all around the world even at the banks of many secular sciences to disagree with the modern presentations of her but this is how she's typically presented like here at the st. Louis Zoo she's walking upright notice her frame is very human as an ape-like face but other than that very human kind of hairy but very human human short arms human long legs human-like feet feet just like yours well maybe yours aren't that hairy but you get the idea same structure human-like hands and please bear in mind they found no hand bones and no foot bones with the original Lucy fossil none we get here's how her feet are displayed all the time like at the st. Louis Zoo and many other places or in the textbooks here's a drawing those the feet are distinctly human in this drawing based on a secular interpretation now I also realize we have found many bones belonging to the Austrian pit the scenes over the years we found many foot bones and ham bones belongings at Lucy's relatives and guys they're distinctly ape-like they had long curved fingers and locking wrists they had very ape-like feet togo's out to the side short ape-like legs long ape-like arms ape-like shoulders eight flights cause ape-like everything yes you still presented very human and all the evidence we see in the zoos museums etc etc dr. Charles auktioner an expert in this field and definitely not the creationist said her toes Lucy's toes stick out like dev a chip like a thumb out to the side that's way her foot was shaped like Apes yet she's still depicted like this all the time around the world guys this is not in Doc this is not education it is indoctrination they think it fits the basic ideology so even though it goes against them no facts it still fulfills the impression they want to give and the worldview they want to teach whether the st. Louis Zoo the Chicago Field Museum the London Natural History Museum myth Sonia or Mia and magazines she's presented as very human-like with an ape-like face going against again all the actual known evidence and supposedly the best evidence that Lucy was transitioning to be a human and walk upright was her knee bone dr. Johansson argued that the angle of the femur going into the tibia was angled such a way that it was cut in between the angles of humans at a juicy frames their leg bones can be very vertical just kind of straight up and down for the most part not a lot of an angle there from the upper leg bone to the lower leg bone man have we have distinct angle and that helps us do many cool things as humans and walking jumping skipping dancing etc and then Lucy seemed to be kind of somewhere in between so he said this Bruce she is transitioning the guys first of all that knee that they found that was supposedly Lucy's it's probably not her knee at all it was found a year earlier seventy meters lower in the dirt and over a mile away so number one is probably not Lucy's knee number two there are lots of monkey like creatures today age today that have different angles of the femur going into the tibula so the angle does improve its transitioning orangutan some spider monkeys have angles and their femurs as well we see that today doesn't prove anything about Lucy transitioning even more important than her knee though his Lucy's hips Lucy's hips are angled in such a way to be very much like that of a chimp and not like a human you see the angle of human tips and apes hips are very different because we move differently as this secular scientist says an expert in this field again a secular scientists I'll kind of just paraphrase a quote her hips look that like that of a chimp very similar to the other chimps hips the hips don't lie for Lucy all right it's a very closer in locomotion how eighths moved not humans so in other words Lucy Walt kind like a chimp so most likely she walked on all fours like chimps today she probably waddle on two legs and went back to all fours like chimps today but guys her original discoverers they did not like that and it did not fit their idea in the row of you about Lucy so I want you to see what a team of scientists did only one is shown in the video to make the evidence of Lucy fit their preconceived ideas and as you watch this bear in mind these are very smart people but this clip shows really the power of your worldview the power of your starting assumptions to dictate your conclusions check this out the ape that stood up it was a revolutionary idea [Music] we needed oh and Lovejoy's expertise again because the evidence wasn't quite adding up the knee looked human but the shape of her hip didn't superficially her hip resembled the chimpanzees which meant that Lucy couldn't possibly have walked like a modern human but Lovejoy noticed something odd about the way the bones had been fossilized when I put the two parts of the pelvis together that we had this part of the pelvis has pressed so hard and so completely into this one that it caused it to be broken into a series of individual pieces which were then fused together in later fossilization after Lucy died some of her bones lying in the mud must have been crushed or broken perhaps by animals browsing at the lakeshore this has caused the two bones in fact to fit together so well that they are in an anatomically impossible position the perfect fit was an illusion that made Lucy's hip bones seemed to flare out like a chimps okay so just one quick interruption notice the original ape-like perfect fit it was an illusion why it did not fit their starting assumptions about what they're looking at so what's what they do to make it fit their worldview but all was not lost [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Lovejoy decided he could restore the pelvis to its natural shape [Music] he didn't want to tamper with the original so he made a copy and plaster he cut the damaged pieces out and put them back together the way they were before Lucy died it was a tricky job but after taking the kink out of the pelvis it all fit together perfectly like a three-dimensional jigsaw puzzle as a result the angle of the hip looks nothing like a chimps but a lot like ours you think right they grinded it down to look like they wanted it to look like again it shows the power of their world view again brilliant people especially in their particular fields but wrong assumptions wrong conclusions and guys even more and more today even more secular scientists are agreeing about these facts we know about Lucy for example from this secular scientists he says regardless of the status of Lucy's knee whatever you think about Lucy's knee the new evidence we see today confirms that she walked like a knuckle Walker that's her basic body structure she was an ape she walked like an ape and her skull was very ape-like here's another here's a skull of Austria fit the scene very ape-like here's another one very ape-like and the experts agree even from a secular perspective very ape-like like this secular scientist says the skull forms of all australopithecines is extremely ape-like and they have too many specialized ape-like characteristics to be either the direct ancestor of man or in the line that led to man she's just an esteemed variation of ape most likely but notice what happens all too often is this you go from this these fragments then you get an artist's reconstruction like this let's show her looking very efficient some ways but humans another for example look at the eyes notice two distinct whites around the eyes that's a very human feature the humans typically alone had a very distinct white around the eye Apes eyes are mostly black it's hard to see any of the whites except in the corners of their eyes that's very human in presentation why did the artist do this here's what the artist said I want to get a human soul into this ape-like face that's not biased at all is it to indicate something about where she was headed and where was she headed well maybe to Walmart or today know where it were on her to quarantine or I put that's the idea I saw it very quickly in summary of the ostraca the scenes had skulls like chimps brain size of a chimp ears like chimps long arms like chimps legs like a chimp hips like a chimp shoulders and back muscles and bones like a chimp hands like a chimp feet like a chimp she was some sort of variation of a poor chimp not a hominid and even now more and more secular science is saying why is she still in this human evolutionary line she should be gone and presented as some sort of ape or chimp not a human that's the secularist and so what we know about the officer with the Saints is that they are simply some sort of extinct variation of ape or chimp that's the actual tangible evidence and then what about Homo erectus moving off from the Apes now to the humans by the way Lucy is a great example of really upgrading a human fossil or upgrading rather than a fossil to be more hominid what about the Homo erectus well this is downscaling human fossils Homo erectus was simply a human being who lived probably post-flood human-like humans today human skeletons human skulls very human in the anatomy and in the DNA as far as we can tell human skull size within the variation of modern humans today on the low end but still within the range of variation we see today in size and scale nothing distinct distinctly ape-like about Homo erectus actually all distinctly human for Homo erectus 100% human and what about the other homo sapiens were running out of time so quickly do the Neanderthals and begin to wrap up because Neanderthals are very popular tapers beepers they've been presented as evidence for evolution for a very long time it was covered back in the mid-1800s they were originally constructed look very ape-like their brain size was actually larger than ours on average which is pretty interesting but originally they were drawn and constructed to look like this and this and this based on some bones that seem to be affected by some sort of bone diseases and corrupted and bent and turned and so forth we found more bones and Neanderthals found out there humans they had skulls like ours with a thicker eyebrow Ridge that's true but still within the variation of humans today and their skulls were very stout mostly most likely very strong and Hardy people but 100% human there's tons of variation and human skulls today that's not weird we see in their skeleton his strong its robust but 100% human within the variation we see today today and now for the most part Neanderthals are presented like this in zoos and museums around the world thank goodness science is catching up to the truth of God's Word and so they're humans actually errant trinkets one of the leading experts of Neanderthals today has this as what he presents what Neanderthals looked like again just like a human being because they were human beings living after the flood here are some of the pictures of modern understandings of Neanderthals today here's me at the Natural History Museum over in London taking a picture with a Neanderthal I'm laughing awkwardly because he needed a lot more clothes but that's a different story but then athough is a great example of downscaling a human fossil what I'm saying human but a Down scan don't look more ape-like to fit their worldview we know now from so many finds we go four hours on this Neanderthals made sophisticated tools and spears we know they actually used make it that made and used makeup very human activity they made thread talk about that on answers news this past Monday they made thread very fine thread to make baskets or clothing or different things they make needles they wore jewelry they hunted dolphins and seals new evidence is shown they actually went into the ocean to hunt for some of these things they made and sail ships and boats around the area they use fire to make food to make glue they built huts with animal skins animals don't do that they did that because they are human they made musical instruments like flutes from the femur bones of bears they cared for their sick they did surgery the guys they were human they ceremonially buried their dead and they can they possess complex speech like modern humans why because they were humans that's why and then looking at the DNA we rose in their DNA there's no significant difference from Neanderthal DNA our DNA today and the variations we see in their DNA is less innovations we see today in modern DNA of humans they are human no doubt about that at all from the DNA evidence and secular scientists are catching up to this slowly but surely I'll second putting all this together this far again you've seen from all this stuff we could cover so many others if time permitted but either it's an upscaling of ape-like fragments to look more human-like like with Lucy or different examples of that or it's a downscaling of human fossils like Homo erectus or Neanderthals or a wrong combination of human balton eight bones I felt down men and others to make an 8-man all based on partial fragmentary evidence based on a secular interpretation to get the conclusions they want to fit their worldview and here's the thing when you find enough of the bones you know it's an ape the bones are very clear if you find enough of the bones you know it's a human it's only when you find the partial fragmentary evidence that's wide open to interpretation that you get these hominids these eight men and guys what we see again and again and again and all of this is that real science real genetics real biology real paleontology confirms the Bible again and again and again you have no reason to fear what the secularist present as proof evolution we have good scientific evidence confirming a Bible stand on God's Word and real science rejects evolutionary ideology all the time when people say okay Brian but if it is so clear on all of this then how come so many smart people today get it so wrong well the answer is this the Bible tells us because ultimately this is not a head issue guys it's a heart issue that becomes a worldview issue and guys your worldview it tells you how to interpret what you're looking at to make it fit your preconceived ideas as we saw with Lucy and her hip so many other examples and I think this has really summed up well by what I mentioned to you earlier what are humans call today humans are called today homo sapien sapien why two sapiens well the word sapien means wise we are the wise wise man and I can't help but think of romans chapter 1 verse 22 where it says this professing themselves to be wise they became fools verse 23 in exchange the glory of the m-more with God four images made to look like mortal man and birds animals and reptiles and why do they do this in their sinful state the verse before says this in verse 18 of Romans chapter one that's the ungodly they suppress the truth in unrighteousness the whole context of Romans wants us is that it's clear from creation it's clear from real science is clear in our conscience that there is a god but we in our sinful state we don't want that to be true why because bottom line is this guys if God made us that the Bible clearly says in science confirms if God made us well he owns us we are accountable to him he judged the world in the past with a global flood he's going to judge will again in the future by fire for eternity and sinful man doesn't like that idea so what do we do in our sinful state we suppress the truth in unrighteousness and guys that's what evolution is today it's a secular stronghold away from the truth of God's Word it's a way to suppress the clear truth of God's Word and give them an excuse to reject what this word clearly says so they can reject what says about our accountability to our Creator and the only way of salvation through Christ that's really the issue if your believer recognized the heart issue in this if you're not a believer watching this be challenged ultimately that is the heart motivation that we have to deal with you have to deal with all these issues and see they do this so ardently with evolution and with the eight men they used to suppress the truth because they understand if the Bible's history is not true then why trusted about anywhere why trust it anywhere else if you can't discredit the Bible's history why trust about morality and salvation that's a logical train of thought by the way and that's why I see quotes like this all the time I could show you so many of time permitted for many different atheists something along these lines and by the way as you look at this quote as I read it bear in mind the atheist here is exactly right this is what's at stake on these issues that's why these issues matter so much follow the quote the atheist says this if there was no atom there was no fall if there was no fall well there was there is no hell if there is no hell there's no need for Jesus as second atom and incarnate Savior crucified and risen as a result the whole biblical system of salvation collapses notice this evolution dust becomes the most potent weapon for destroying the Christian faith the most potent weapon for suppressing the truth in unrighteousness they understand what's at stake the question is do we ultimately not ahead issue it's a heart issue and guys let us stand on the authority of God's Word and defend the biblical authority from the beginning to proclaim the truth of the last Adam Jesus Christ you see the sake of the non-believers so desperately want to avoid the truth of the first Adam because that truth tells us we need the last Adam because we all descend from Adam we're all sinners by nature consequently by choice that's why we all all of us D saving to the last Adam Jesus Christ and so let's be sure as Christians that we can defend our faith against the secular onslaught of our age in different ways like evolution amen Tiktaalik and all the other things I use billions of years let's defend the faith defend the reality of the first Adam to proclaim boldly the truth of the last Adam Jesus Christ that's really what this is all about what our ministry is all about equipping Christians to stand boldly confidently to defend the faith to root their thinking in God's Word to think critically to think biblically the stand Rudy did not fall away to proclaim the truth of the gospel to a lost and dying world that's ever so confused in our culture today let's stand on that foundation I want to equip you to do just that in the real world and in a real way to have answers for yourself for your family for your kids for your neighbors probably seen your neighbors not right right now is you just stay at home more and more working out and you're fixing up the house cause nothing else to do right as you see your neighbors who are believers you can answer their questions and choose and then love confidently boldly lovingly and will equip you to do that first the website Answers in Genesis or be sure the bookmarked that website it's got so many great resources that you can freely get to to give you answers and to use in your home in your study groups or within your family to equip yourselves to defend the faith why this stuff matter so much to book the lie the foundational textbook of our ministry built on God's Word why this stuff is so relevant in defending biblical authority and thus the gospel connected to that biblical authority today for short answers in all this on evolution and the 8-minute cetera my book quick answers to tough questions give you gives you lots of answers very quickly very concisely about evolution the age of the earth eight men dinosaurs who decane marry etc etc and so you can check that out on the website as well also a brand new book just came out me and Kant talked about this about a week ago this book called quick answers to social issues how do we answer the social issues of our age from a biblical worldview perspective thirty-seven quick concise biblical answers to issues of life equality sexuality environment issues of homosexuality the transgender movement social justice racism abortion etc etc really good concise biblical answers each answer and both those books is less than 500 words so very ad D friendly as I'd like to say good for a lot of age groups 1990 check those out on the website so many other great books on these issues of evolution and the eight men this one's a great newer book on these issues glass house shattering the myth of evolution great responses in this book to the so called evidences for evolution I encourage you to check that book out one blood or rather one race one blood by Ken Ham dr. Charles where a great book on this pivotal issue of our day and age and for more of a detailed discussion on these issues from a theological perspective and even genetic perspective searching for Adam edited by dr. Terry Mortensen multiple authors really well done just a wealth of insight from a biblical dealing with these issues I really encourage you to check that book out and then the answers books one through four deal with so many questions involving the eight men how we answer those questions from a biblical worldview perspective with good critical thinking based on a biblical foundation fantastic resources be sure you check those out got answers for kids gives kids answers on these issues and these books they're real questions from real kids with a really short answer and so kids and even typically parents and grandparents loved reading these good concise answers are very understandable and the books like this one I really really really want to learn about the eight men by Ruth Carter Ruth does a great job in this book it's a great book for the younger kids basically four or five and six and adultery a lot of it as you read it with them as well could you check that out one blood for kids great book on these issues and then of course tons of DVDs on individual topics age of the earth general topics like just a bunch of answers and the answers DVDs this DVD I hinted at some of these principles dr. David min does a great job of giving you a detailed explanation on the three ways to make an 8-man and to think critically on these issues it is a great job great sense of humor you'll love the DVD and the content is phenomenal very powerful and what about genetics and more detail on that a great DVD is dr. Georgia proto DVD the genetics of Adam and Eve that confirm the Bible's history also I don't have the slide for now but dr. Nathaniel Jesus book replacing Darwin gray book on this issue curse you check that out as well for quicker answers on the DVD quick answers to tough questions is on DVD I've got a section on amen and that particular DVD and take advantage of our special right now there's free shipping on orders of $50 or more all right for right now so if $50 or more free shipping across the US on all those or take advantage of that and then we got the magazine phenomenal resource gives you a biblical world view on all these issues on these modern a little more the current issues of our age a biblical worldly perspective really well done when it's multiple warts every year it's one top-selling Christian magazines in the world has a kids section in it that kids really do love my kids really do love it and it's really so helpful and engaging also the digital version comes with these subscription so take advantage of that great deal and the sign up for our creation apologist classes online they're only 19 dollars per class and there's six of them and these are for all six only nineteen dollars which is a fantastic deal over 250 dollar value for only $19 a great way to equip yourself with answers to all these sorts of questions sign up for the answers insider online to get Ken's testimony for free you can download it's a very powerful testimony and also just stick with us of course at 3 o'clock today we've got Kim doing a presentation with frogs so Ken talking about the poison dart frogs which would be a lot of fun at 3 o'clock you want to stick around for that seven o'clock can do a night behind this behind-the-scenes look at the very detailed Ark replica I believe the half Ark at the Ark Encounter stay tuned for that at 7 o'clock tomorrow at 10 o'clock stay tuned for Roger doing another grade a series on this science live series he does a great job with that you'll love that your kids will love that watch it together and then back at 12 o'clock tomorrow I'll be back at 12 tomorrow right here with you hanging out again tomorrow stock will be revealing the unknown God why won't they listen how do we share the gospel an effective way in a very secular culture like ours that we live in today it's a powerful talk it really is a powerful application of all the principles we talked about as a ministry on all this if you like to donate to what God is doing here through this ministry and go to Answers in Genesis backslash donate to give any amount of those less or more as you see fit Scott's guiding you to do so to support what he is doing here for his glory in a powerful way you can find me online if you like on facebook or twitter feel free to engage me there ask questions aloud to respond to those as best I can via those social media platforms and I just wrap up with this verse coming back to first Peter 3:15 again dear believer recognizes truth on all these things that we're teaching at all the different sessions all these noon sessions what ken is presenting at 3:00 and at 7:00 us at different times what Rogers presenting at 10 o'clock with different people all of this it's not about looking smart it's not about winning arguments about science or history it's about defending a biblical Authority in abeyance of God's Word to proclaim the gospel effectively let's be sure we're giving answers so we can proclaim the answer Jesus Christ you guys have a great day I'll see you tomorrow back here at 12 take care you

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Length: 63min 34sec (3814 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 22 2020