'The end of his quest for Manhattan's approval': How Trump's trial exposes his insecurities

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HOWDIES INFORMATION IS SABOTAGING AMERICA. IT IS OUT NOW. BARB, YOU KNOW WE GOT LEGAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT. BEYOND DONALD TRUMP COMPLAINING UNJUSTLY ABOUT HOW THE LEGAL PROCESS WORKS, FOX NEWS IS NOW MAKING UP FABRICATING THINGS ABOUT POTENTIAL JURORS AND DONALD TRUMP IS TAKING THESE FABRICATIONS AND NOW PUSHING THEM OUT AND SPREADING THEM. HOW ARE WE NOT RIGHT BACK IN GAG ORDER TERRITORY? BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO POLLUTE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND POTENTIAL JURORS OUT THERE. ALL THESE THINGS THEY ARE SAYING, THEY'RE NOT TRUE. >> ABSOLUTELY ONE OF THE POSTS THAT DONALD TRUMP MADE TODAY WAS SUGGESTING THAT HE SAID LIBERALS ARE LYING TO TRY TO SNEAK THEIR WAY ONTO THE JURY JUST SO THEY CAN CONVICT HIM. THE GAG ORDER I THINK COVERS THIS. I THINK THAT IF I WERE WORKING WITH ALVIN BRAGG, TOMORROW MORNING WHEN I GET BACK TO COURT, I WOULD BE ARGUING THIS IS CONDUCT COVERED BY THE GAG ORDER. IT INCLUDED STATEMENTS DIRECTED AT JURORS OR POTENTIAL JURORS AND SO I THINK WHEN YOU MAKE DISPARAGING COMMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THAT JURY POOL, THAT IS COVERED BY THE GAG ORDER. FOR THE REASONS YOU SAY, STEPHANIE. ONE IS PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS. BUT ALSO PROTECTING THE JURORS THEMSELVES IF PEOPLE GET WIND OF WHO THEY ARE AND BELIEVE THEY HAVE SAID THINGS THAT ARE FALSE TO HARM DONALD TRUMP, THOSE PEOPLE COULD THEMSELVES FIND THEMSELVES HARASSED, THREATENED OR ATTACKED. I WOULD BE VERY AGGRESSIVE ON JUMPING ON THIS TOMORROW. >> THE WASHINGTON HOST HAS A PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY PIECE OUT THAT IS DESCRIBING THIS TRIAL AS SORT OF A SYMBOL OF DONALD TRUMP'S COMPLETE BREAK WITH NEW YORK CITY. RIGHT? THE PLACE WHERE HE BUILT HIS NAME. I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT WALKING UP FIFTH AVENUE. PAST TRUMP TOWER. WHEN YOU THINK NEW YORK CITY IN THE 1980s , IT'S LIKE DONALD TRUMP IN A LIMO. THIS TRIAL BURIES THAT IMAGE. >> YEAH, I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT IF THERE IS ONE KIND OF ROSE BUD TO UNDERSTANDING TRUMP'S PSYCHOLOGY, IT IS HIS NEW YORK ROOTS AND HIS SPECIFIC FORM OF STATUS ANXIETY THAT HE EXPERIENCED AS A YOUNG MAN GROWING UP IN THE OUTER BOROUGHS AND I SAY THAT SERIOUSLY. IF YOU LOOK THROUGH THE TRUMP LITERATURE, THE SPEECHES HE HAS GIVEN. THE BOOKS HE HAS WRITTEN OVER THE YEARS, HE CONSTANTLY RETURNS TO THIS IDEA THAT AS A YOUNG MAN GROWING UP IN A WEALTHY FAMILY, HE WAS ALWAYS A LITTLE BIT ASHAMED THAT HIS DAD HAD MADE HIS FORTUNE IN QUEENS AND BROOKLYN. AND HE ALWAYS WANTED TO GO TO MANHATTAN WHERE HE FELT LIKE THAT IS WHERE EVERYTHING WAS HAPPENING. AND AS SOON AS HE COULD, HE HELPED EXPAND THE TRUMP EMPIRE INTO MANHATTAN AND HE REALLY BUILT HIS ENTIRE IMAGE AROUND BEING THIS SORT OF FIGURE OF MANHATTAN. A TABLOID TITAN. A GUY WRITING IN THE LIMO AT ALL THE FANCY RESTAURANTS. AND REALLY, HE EVEN AT THE TIME, AMONG THE CITY'S HARRIS ARISTOCRATS WAS TREATED AS AN OUTSIDER. AND THAT HAS FUELED HIS REVENGE MARCH TO THE WHITE HOUSE. AND REALLY ALL OF HIS POLITICAL CAREER. BUT, REALLY, THIS TRIAL, I WAS STRUCK BY IT LAST YEAR WHEN I WENT TO COVER HIS ARRAIGNMENT. THIS REALLY IS KIND OF THE END OF HIS QUEST FOR MANHATTAN'S APPROVAL IN PARTICULAR. THERE IS NO COMING BACK FROM THIS. THIS IS A FULL REJECTION OF HIM AND I THINK FOR THAT REASON, IT IS A PERSONAL TRIAL. >> THE BOY FROM QUEENS DETERMINED TO BE KING. HE DID LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE AND LED A BIG LIFE IN FLORIDA. THEY WENT TO FLORIDA. THEY WENT TO LA. THEY LIVE LARGE BUT NONE OF THEM CAME BACK TO NYC. THE DA MADE IT CLEAR THAT PROSECUTORS PLAN TO PRESS TRUMP ON HIS PREVIOUS NEW YORK CASES. IF HE DECIDES TO TAKE THE STAND. WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT? WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS CASE? WHAT DOES E. JEAN CARROLL OR THE CIVIL FRAUD CASE? WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ELECTION INTERFERENCE? >> IT DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO DO FOR THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS CASE, BUT IT DOES AFFECT DONALD TRUMP'S CREDIBILITY AS A WITNESS. SO THIS WAS PART OF SOMETHING REFERRED TO IN NEW YORK AS A SANDOVAL HEARING. IT IS A QUIRK OF NEW YORK LAW WHERE THEY HAVE TO GIVE THE DEFENDANT NOTICE. IF YOU TAKE THE STAND AND BECOME A WITNESS IN THIS CASE. NOT JUST A DEFENDANT BUT A WITNESS, WE ARE GOING TO TRY TO IMPEACH YOUR CREDIBILITY SO THE JURY CAN ASSESS YOUR TRUTHFULNESS. SO, TO GIVE THE DEFENDANT THAT NOTICE, MAYBE I SHOULD CHANGE MY MIND AND CHOOSE NOT TO TESTIFY. AND SO, THERE IS A HEARING WHERE THE JUDGE WILL DECIDE WHETHER THE PRIOR ACTS ARE ADMISSIBLE. I THINK A JURY IS ENTITLED TO HEAR THOSE THINGS. >> IF I'M ALVIN BRAGG, WOULDN'T I WANT TRUMP TO TESTIFY? THAT IS OPEN SEASON ON A GUY WHO HAS LIED OVER AND OVER. >> IT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. BEFORE DONALD TRUMP HAS TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER HE WILL TESTIFY, HE IS ENTITLED TO THE NOTICE SO HE CAN MAKE AN INFORMED CHOICE. THEY ARE ASKING FOR A FINANCIAL CUT FROM THEIR FUND RAISING WHEN THEY USE DONALD TRUMP'S NAME AND OR HIS IMAGE. WE KNOW A WHOLE LOT OF CANDIDATES RELY ON THEIR TIES TO THEM. HOW BIG OF A WIN FALL WILL IT BE FOR HIS CAMPAIGN IF THEY ALL HAVE TO GIVE HIM A CUT? WILL THEY GO FOR THIS? >> IT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. YOU WONDER IF THE CANDIDATES WILL AGREE TO THIS. HE HELD THAT FUNDRAISER IN FLORIDA. HIS CAMPAIGN SAID THEY RAISED LIKE 50 MILLION. IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT IS EXACTLY DOUBLE WHAT PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA AND CLINTON SAID THEY RAISE I WANT TO IN SOME WAYS CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT NUMBER AND IN SOME WAYS LOOK AT WHETHER THAT NUMBER WILL PAN OUT. BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT ALMOST EVERY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE RUNNING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THEY WILL TRY TO RUN ON THE COAT TAILS OF FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE IS SOMEONE WHO HAS THE BASE THAT IS EXCITED ABOUT HIM. THOUGH IT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, HE WAS ABLE TO WIN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE PRIMARY. EXCEPT FOR THE ONE NIKKI HALEY WON. IT SHOWS YOU THAT REPUBLICAN VOTERS, AS SO MANY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES ARE DOING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. THEY REMINDED ME THAT THERE ARE SOME REPUBLICANS GOING THROUGH STATE PRIMARIES HERE. SO, EVEN THOUGH WE THINK THAT IT IS SOMETHING THE GENERAL ELECTION STARTED, IT IS A REMINDER A LOT OF REPUBLICANS WILL TRY TO BEAT OFF PRIMARY CHALLENGES BY USING DONALD TRUMP'S NAME. THIS WILL BE A LARGE SUM OF MONEY IF TRUMP IS ABLE TO CONVINCE THESE CANDIDATES TO GIVE THAT MONEY TO THEM. >> IT IS AMAZING TO ME HE WILL TAKE A COMMISSION. IT IS LIKE ON THE HEELS OF MARCH MADNESS, HE HAS DECIDED HE WILL GET IN ON THE NAME IMAGE LIKENESS GAME. AND MAKE HIMSELF SOME MONEY. BUT LET'S GO TO THE HILL BECAUSE I WANT TO PLAY WHAT SPEAKER JOHNSON SAID TONIGHT. ABOUT HIS PLAN TO PUT FOREIGN AID BILLS ON THE FLOOR. IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. >> I THINK PROVIDING AID TO UKRAINE IS IMPORTANT AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE PERSONAL RISK FOR THAT AND HISTORY WILL JUDGE US. I DO NOT SPEND TIME WALKING AROUND THINKING ABOUT THE MOTION TO VACATE. >> HE RESISTED THIS MOVE UNTIL THIS WEEK WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HIS JOB IS ON THE LINE. WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON HERE? >> IT IS REALLY, REALLY INTERESTING. AT FIRST THERE WAS THIS THOUGHT THAT SPEAKER JOHNSON, THAT REPUBLICANS WOULDN'T HAVE THE EAR THEY HAVE FOR KEVIN MCCARTHY AND HE MIGHT NOT HAVE HIS JOB ON THE LINE. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP THIS AID BILL. IT IS PUTTING UP THIS INTERESTING MOMENT WHERE WE NOW HAVE THE REPUBLICANS SORT OF HAVING DEJA VU. I WANT TO PUT FORWARD THINGS AS A CAUCUS WE SHOULD BE GETTING BEHIND. AND HE IS NOT ABLE TO GET THE NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS HE NEEDS TO SAVE HIS JOB. SO IT WILL BE REALLY INTERESTING. ESPECIALLY THE WAY HE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS. YOU PLAY THAT SOUND AND SPEAKER JOHNSON SAYS HE IS NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE MOTION TO VACATE WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE SAYING WE ARE WAVING IT IN YOUR FACE. IF THEY DO GET RID OF SPEAKER JOHNSON, WHO IS ELSE IS GOING TO WANT THIS JOB GIVEN THE FACT
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Channel: MSNBC
Views: 160,735
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Keywords: Stephanie Ruhle
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Length: 10min 55sec (655 seconds)
Published: Thu Apr 18 2024
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