The Duratus Mind - Ep 12 - Titch Cormack

so record him mate tich good to see you again mate to see you guys so bit of overview about what I'm do so today people the five people that are listening and growing an audience maybe it was three last week it's probably five five have not lost six hopefully if you listened six men growing an audience around what is it that drives people to do the things that on the face of it seem difficult what is the motivation the mindset that it takes to have success in whatever field you know you I'm interested in what you've got to say you someone I've worked with previously back to the old organization you know you've had success on the face of it that is what you will pick that at the time for you why you did what you did now how you're translating that into this successful business brand empire that the s-bahn empire yes bomb that's gonna become there's plenty of people rolling round palki with s bomb t-shirts I've seen famous stars Hollywood a-listers yeah wearing Tom Hardy etc yeah wearing the s-bahn t-shirt that must make you feel everybody else to surprise me where these things pop off all around remember that's humility yeah that's awesome oh it's good to ya mega interested in picking your mind today I know people have messaged me on social media to try and get you on the show so I wanted to anyway so that's a double bonus that it's working for two of the people that are listening and me as well so so yeah we'll get on do it get into it mate so your note of if you don't mind for the people listening so I may have seen you some may have not yeah he's beautiful so if you get a chance to see him see him but uh could you unpick of your a little bit of life story do you know people say I don't your life story well today I do want a little bit your life story how you got up to the point of joining the military basically okay don't mind yeah sure em so brief overview I was born in Hull and I lived in hole till hours twelve years old and then moved down to Grimsby I say slightly up in the world Elliott I mean so but it was slightly open the world because currently I think Hall was the second worst place to live in the UK and went to the third wheels personally place to live in the UK grooms so moved there and resilience and a nutshell night that was it straight way so that was done that was explained everything and I grew up there in secondary school and I know a lot of people and I've listened to people talk about motivational things and stuff there always seems to sort of focus quite heavily on I was on her I was really under privileged background and I came from nothing young and all this sort of thing well my parents were both teachers so actually we had a really good life you know it was fantastic both my parents were together and they still are you know to the point when I joined the military except where they kept on pushing their careers and they both ended up as headmistress and headmaster respectively interesting you're right because a lot of people do and there's I think there seems to be a focus on that kind of difficult or bring in that's why you've ended up I'm the same way I was brought up in a loving family there's no military connection and I don't have one picked why I end up in the military but it wasn't because there was some struggle and I wanted to get out and I learn a hard way and hard-knock life it wasn't me I don't know really easy loving childhood yeah yeah I think a lot of people sort of focus on that and and and that was one who's always talked about was actually was good however certainly I learned a lot from an early age and this was due to my parents both my mom and dad nothing was given for free you know everything was earned you know they we didn't get pocket money etc jobs were done jobs were done to get that and and that's the way we brought they brought us up it was it was really sort of a heavily education focused bringing which I sort of did not enjoy too much you know and in fact I probably sort of rebelled for me as they my brother when something when you told to do something all the time as a kid yeah it's it I think those classic things you say to a kid you're good right you are gonna do this the opposite why you telling me not to do that I'm interested in that night yeah I'm gonna go do this so my brother left and became a joiner and I love to join the military now interestingly oh good oh oh right okay oh my god Paul's around - where were we so a powerful childhood yes well yeah the horrific childhood done no no it's all the so actually the reason why I joined the military no this was a an interesting thing was because my parents were it is to go into education and stuff like that and I really wanted to do something to gain my father's respect and do something that he would look up to me because I was really struggling to trying to try and gain any any kudos with my father you conscious of that at the time yeah yes massively and age would you have said I was I was sort of 16 16 17 and I was trying to prove to my dad that I was capable of something I didn't really want to go into further education and I came down to the point was my my dad's dad so my granddad on my father's side I'd never met him he died the year I was born but he was a corporate four or five Commander three yes indeed yeah and he had Garrett out was in involved with the d-day landings and Sword Beach on d-day we'd heard these stories from your dad absolutely and talked about it with background and I knew my dad had a massive amount of respect for his father so that was actually one of my main reasons I mean I don't think we don't talk about that was one of my main reasons that drive to actually go and join the Marines now interestingly I did my pilot's exams that are if Biggin Hill when it was opened and I went away could also look to becoming a pilot sort of like this pilots you would then go this go down and do the sort of tests where they check to see if you were capable of becoming a pilot and then they potentially would fund you through University and stuff like that so I did that and I passed the house oh yeah surprisingly and then once I passed them then applied to join the Royal Marines so yeah what a fool and yes I could be zipping around in jets but no I think question on that would you change things now oh no no way no yeah oil refined taxi jabbers hey having done that I joined for the role Marines and joined in 1993 in February 93 way back now mate yeah way back six five six troop the eye of the storm sigh Paul was my dl hi Paul what a cracking guy actually face awesome yeah amazing boy out there so yeah you know why the Marines do you think so you you're so you've mentioned your grandad and there's that connection there so what was you think you mentioned your dad well I like to understand is sort of people's perceptions when they start did you join thinking I'm gonna crush this did you join with load of fear about failing going back with your tail between your legs or somewhere in between certainly that huge sort of impending doom really and it's such as you 1870 I turned 18 in training as a junior but yeah you've affiliate with this is that that whole thing of getting off the train you know he get off the train at limp Stern and all of a sudden the reality hits different world different horrible and you're there this skinny little Sydney just straight into it isn't it any like before you know you win the barbers having a skin edge and straight off the open season exactly it's exactly the same always remember he always remembered as a cat and there's a guy that I caught the train down with I didn't know it at the time but as we got closer to the train station don't Dan turn then I would kind of worked out that we're going to the same place he had like these long curtains like so yeah got his long curtains back in the back in the 90s and he was like when we were walking up because you know you know we're gonna get a haircut it he said I've got it cooked because I knew they were gonna cut it short so this is this is me having just that it caught and I was like I know Matt and when he sat down in this literally straight out this the first scene of Full Metal Jacket it was like this is and I understand it now generally because it's they're bringing you in and it's we were I'd love to think I wasn't indoctrinated yeah I was massively indoctrinated now we understand not all negative because I was bought into this purpose I wanted to be this role marine for whatever reason yeah I wanted to be this war marine I didn't know anything I didn't know me also my elbow to be perfectly honest and in left college but went into it and I was no military experience in my family and they have to turn you into this something whatever it is at the end of this process and the only got 30 weeks to do it and that starts with your fits our mold now and everyone's losing the hair and you're like okay this is extreme but this is it and I'm all in and yeah it kind of it's a it's changes the tone it changes the mindset yeah I mean straight away you know those first few days so what were they like the first few days for you it's interesting about I've got one vivid memory of a [ __ ] induction you know when you first get in there and you're there any of these little orange tabs that you probably not you loo me not yeah which means yeah absolute novice they were in there and be getting out of you've got to fold your clothes and it's going to be the same size as the globe and Laurel magazine from the Royal Marines all this sort of thing and it was absolutely bizarre the different people that were there from all walks of life they were attempting this huge thing for the young really I think the oldest person there we had was our probably about 25 26 masters really a master's majority you were sort of 1819 year your old guys and and there you are in the induction brach being taught everything been taught been taught to wash now shown yeah how come wash how to wash your penis you know five-part last yeah wash yourself somebody else's side pole how you wash yourself fair play on the deals being the person in front of 30 40 lat this is how you wash your bum hole yeah you start the head we know I do it you start the top you work down and it's like you've got to be fast because we're asking to be asking you to quick change and go from PT into drill into all this other rubbish and it's about being speedy and Dean being efficient and I was like this is weird looking around thinking I'm gonna have to shower with 30 other blokes this is weird and this man has shown me how to wash his penis thought I was doing it right I think it's all part of the process of indoctrinating you into the way that they need to do things yeah and you buy into it you start you listen to the language that they use it not necessarily the bad language hmm just the words you know threader's pusses all these words what does this mean yeah you sort of knew within a few days you using it on you you're out down Exeter in the local boozes and the weekend and join you one day off and yeah just like using the innards in your time we don't stand out that with an ironing board yeah we've just bought an ironing board as well it's just bizarre and I've had the pleasure of not so long ago being in Exeter and you still it's exactly nothing's changed nothing's changed that sense dilma it is I think it's a swanky restaurant oh it's my been turned into some and outs now but it yeah yeah it was a yeah that was a haunt yeah but uh yeah so your experiences as a as a marine and then you you went through the process fairly comfortably struggles everyday well no that's a couple of interesting things I mean training I broke my eye socket and this was just before the nine mile er and I was I remember phoning home when on a landline yeah either way pay so yeah on a paper no Mobile's don't queue in together and they training team we told me I couldn't run the name ila you know and this ends for anybody who doesn't know the nine mile I was the transition point from you add this of a black bear a with a red patch on it and then you transition into what's called a cap comforter which is the old classic commando wooly hat you're going from a nobody yeah there's something I see some mine thing yeah in your mind you think you know this is the best thing and and I was unable to run the night Malecha state bed said no he's broken his eye he can't run that's it and and I was facing being back troops devastated yeah absolutely devastated I'm not lying I got yeah I cried yeah I've got on the phone to my mom and I burst out crying it's not because physically couldn't do it because I don't know this thing had happened and I was devastated about this it looked like I was gonna get back troops but I'm sure I'm sure consider could say this it say this now what effect the guys their training team that took me through we're all retired him anything but those guys came in at the weekend because because right there so this is this is a scar up and I turned up for the night Milan will mark it and broken face and they said right Cormack know you've been told by you cannot run this no man broke my face Cornish I'll burn it stuff and the right no you are not that's it sent me sent me back and I was absolutely gutted they came in in the weekend whenever everyone was everyone was a Alex I think you're allowed out that weekend after the Nile right one weekend I was combination of Ramallah they came in there like right chroma cake it in the name Allah and they off the record yeah and they suddenly they run the nine mile away awesome yeah the trainee team all run and I'm Alamut because they knew old pass it smash it but they came in off the record sick Bay's not here and they ran around with me massive amount other reckon that I'd be allowed anymore I don't think that I don't think anyone in the training of I would take that risk now that was the 90s yeah different yes it's only twenty odd years later I was a different you know we there was more risks being taken you know but anyway so may that's awesome I mean yeah what amount a respect for those blokes to yeah any time out as well you know their weekend when they should have been everything weekend off because it was the one weekend they were in looking after the nods enough yeah and their families yeah that's awesome mate and so then you you went off you joined you got involved in marine stuff yeah and some years down the line there was something that's motivated you to do something different yeah so I I was at four five come on dope but it for five condo for six years followed your granddad boots yeah exactly and that was all I wanted today you know and I actually you broke your face if you look closely but I actually fell off a building punched him along Wow now this was at a wedding in Edinburgh so it was a roll Marines wedding done been doing the castle and Edinburgh fantastic it was Phil's wedding and we went back to the reception there we are all in in our blues etc at the reception and I went back to the hotel to go get changed to go out get into some severe regen see if we could chat some girls so went back and I'd lost the key for my for my with the Brit for the roof hotel why not just go to the reception Casper keep no not obvious thing to do what I'll do is I'll try and climb up to the window where my room is because I know which one it is it's that one there and I've left the window a jar they said so I climbed up the front of the building can't see where this is yeah God God's the window ledge slip straight off it yank straight off the window ledge a little instant of absolute flap stations and realized there was like you know the cellar the old buildings yeah yeah yeah celibate railings yeah and I was only one story up but I don't wanna fall in the cellar I kicked back and came down on the railings wait [ __ ] because I was that thinned back then was that then I went between imagine there's what about five six inches between railings I fell between the spikes I could have killed you Mason well one went in me back stuck him you back but the side of it broke all my ribs my ribs went through my lung what a clown could have punctured your heart yeah and I remember I was there with Shane but a my best mates be busy up oh four or five this is great stone so he pulled me off the railings and laid me on the floor and all of a sudden I'm very sober at this place it's amazing it Airy so brought when these things instantly instant and I was and I was trying to say ambulance but couldn't blood what was coming in Shane says we'll sleep here and it no Shane Shane it won't this is not gonna be alright in a body feel serious she might be a bit of a snag you then realizes somewhat wrong phones it taxi taxi turns up and the taxis driver sees me absolutely perhaps rings an ambulance Jesus wings an ambulance the ambulance turns up and they sought me out put me into the ambulance Shane decides to come with me so there to the hospital and we go straight into it is he taking you serious yeah sure he's I think he's still very very drunk at this point but he decided accompanies me to the hospital so I'm straight into AE and into surgery and I'm straight into there at which point then just the story then goes into what my mom tells me happened so moms know best yeah my mom's there at home it's like 3 o'clock in the morning the phone rings and chances it in its shade so she knows its bow mates from Eddie and he gets some defensive oh bomb but says she says everything okay and it goes yeah yeah there's a problem there's a problem with Church and she's like what watch me he's probably dead honesty at which point I think in one of the nurses took the phone off Shane had heard this and was like he is not probably he's in surgery now and then explains the whole brokes you know libs open outbreak yeah hey guys so that was quite significant because I went then the moment was significant just just getting over it now what's this thirty years like usually my career because I think at this big lung injury and it took me probably about a year to really recover from that to be a trend but the trend with more body incidents may come on two more well yeah we are really just scratching the surface of I swear but they're massively affected me because I wanted then to go for SBS so I was quite keen to actually see and my whole Drive BAM was that I wanted to see exactly how far I could go yeah you know I'd achieved this thing and achieved the Royal Marines which was a which was a real big goal in my life however there was this thing that's there the SBS and it really really attracted me because I was on this I was on this vehicle now that I had got myself into his mindset let's see exactly how far I can go I'd had lots of setbacks and stuff like that the long and and things and and I want to try and overcome them I put in for selection yes but was turned down because I had a punctured lung so the doctors don't sign you off they get Sammy off because that's again this is a this is the second time this has happened in your career yeah so the doctors wouldn't sign you off for the night miler did the nine mile oh I know where this story goes yeah and this and this one unfortunately I couldn't do selection that's it you can't you can't do it at that point in time they didn't have non divers at the diver may just end this now no no no I don't know you like this about to stop the recording I didn't realize because because actually once you've got to have ten years since a lung injury so I don't build to dive that's funny you know if I eventually went through his case it was quite I was quite late through selection yeah I was actually on my 10-year point when I did when I did it and I turned ten years since the accident I got a bunch so then I got the pleasure of doing the dive course so they changed the rules at that point yeah exactly so I actually went in as a non diver yeah because of the lung injury and as a non diver but as it was when he looks with records it's been ten years since that so you can add funk ass there you go so it was about you testing yourself as to where you could take it and this is a common theme so again I've been on picking this with a few people in elite sport and police forces that's that we've worked with that's in other units and organizations and it's the similar trend that as this internal message fr can I take me and it's that feeling that you're on an upward trajectory as opposed to stagnating and it yeah man you saw it can be sat in your old organization of all Marines and and you could sit there quite happily and continue career progress through the ranks and on the face of it progress but are you challenging yourself every single day yeah I felt similar to you that I wasn't and there was this bigger test could go I mean for me it was the Twin Towers that was the thing for me that knocked me to water right you want to go do it now and a few other key personnel that I knew that friends that had been successful and I thought I think I'm as almost as good as him if he can do it I can do that kind of yeah helped me but uh for you it's just that constant did you know people that had been successful I knew a couple of guys who had gone for it yeah I knew a couple guys it failed and one guy who actually pushed on RIT and took himself off which was James I think he was really capable bad they actually know anybody who'd actually gone through and said yeah this is so this is something that's quite common most people have only ever heard the negatives if you've served in the military you hear the negative stories yeah this was something I was going to bring up and we chatted about potentially what was one of the biggest mistakes you've made in your life one of the biggest mistakes I made as a young impressionable marine was listening to the negatives of people who'd failed you know and I listened to Peter and I listen to people and all these things and these guys saying right no you you won't be able to do it you've got to you've got to do this you've got to do a jungle tour you've got to do in Northern Ireland yeah I've got do that you've got off to Norway's under your belt yeah to be honest tree inmate you know I came off I very much that you aren't gonna be able to do it and I'm obviously a legend and I didn't make it yeah thank you what choice have you got and foolishly I listened to these people's what we do they do it in everything don't ya I still do it we listen to people that we look up to and go you can choose your role models coach yeah you can look at them and go I take your word and you can listen to their rhetoric and you can take that in or and I look to NIMS now I love the nihms is a fantastic example I probably someone that if someone has done it before I feel like if I applied myself I could do it yeah help me NIMS is someone that shout out names names is someone that can someone's never done it before yeah he doesn't even care now he's gonna go do it anyway because that the fact that nobody's done it before is they appeal to him and I'm like and I mean and and and them and the more people who told him he couldn't Meriter start yeah and people were pointless that's not gonna happen and he was looking for people to back him and nobody would even entertain the idea because they thought well no it's taken you know hugely world when I renowned climbers eight years is the rate it's if you can add it it's laughable so yeah you got new you think not even a mountain yes yeah and he's gone well exactly Genoa and and his sort of field as well is very aloof isn't it yeah the elite Mountaineers and for him just to turn up as a you know just your Joe Bloggs blown because that's saying I'm going to climb eight maybe smart because again in all the fundraising trying to raise all the money for his project he approached all the big companies people how come this hasn't been funded well because he approached all the big companies they went to their advisors their advisor Kistner absolutely no chance Cisco has got not enough experience it's actually laughable or he's gonna kill himself yeah nobody would sponsor him because they just hadn't no expectations of me and also even worse than that the people that were doing the advising were being challenged by this upstart yeah it's never you know and they were like well like there's no way like they're only lit self-limiting beliefs I can't do that there's no way this guy can do who's got not got our experience yeah guess what guess why doesn't work like that and names obviously saw something so you know I think we're elves are going with this thin the sense that you know you I kind of looked to other people and go away they've done it I can probably do it that's it yeah me what were the drivers for you just sort of just go that's doable and and ultimately was it worth it for you in yeah milestones in life various breaks and pins and plates screwed into my body but yeah the actual selection process I had you cannot help but turn up to that city and you in that big so canteen looking at looking around it and you're a new judge people that you course you do nearly 200 people and they're all going for selection and you're looking around same thing about judging all these people and Jude is award you could not be more wrong in your is absolutely amazing when those guys that were built like tanks that you thought that bikes gonna mayor he's gone into week two weeks yaks he's you know you little skinny whip it a still hanging in there you know there is ways about from right you thought waste room you're right no completely agree why do you think that is I think you never try I think that's that's humans anyway I think that's just the way people are I know Peters expecting odd you know everyone so juji's they're inevitably I think I think people are and people do take thing people at face value it's really it's it's certainly something I've learned is to not do trying officer yeah trying to see through this process because you cannot get the full knowledge of a person and that and that human being just by looking at how they how they present themselves no not at all okay you know and um fell more often than not you are massively way off the mark yeah certainly those those examples I know one one guy that I specifically pinged in in that canteen and the start of things thinking that guy's way overweight he got bounced heard he got by some effort but Horace M know by the end of that selection didn't look anything like that he was an absolute twig of way but he started out however he there was me judging for what he looked like but his resolve and his mindset was equal to everybody else who bows badge they're absolutely not want to give up absolutely so again none of my Jobs was to sort of fine pre-selection course yeah and the amount of times I've got it wrong and because this this snapshot you get of somebody like over time but you need this process where over time you can judge people yeah you for my better pictures in it and you know again we talked a lot about will take the the right person not the best person you take the right you know and that that's important but to understand who the right person is it's not a easily measured test although the fastest speed yeah the fittest man yeah it's just not as simple as that people train themselves to a level and that's not the important stuff it's about the soft skills the interpersonal skills Jochen as a team being the right fit the principles of all of our units whether it was in Special Forces all those principles are what's important yeah that humility or that ability to have a laugh in the face of adversity you know and just look at problems and laugh about it because if you don't you'll cry yeah right and I think cuz you're in a world of pain with all the pain and you need it and there was only one way out of here you've got to get out or you ain't get 100% and that is it in the center you just got to be prepared to face that and I think this is what I talk about all the time and what I'm trying to unpick is facing a challenge gives you feedback yeah and if you're not prepared to take a challenge you don't ever get that feedback and that's okay but it's a very comfortable life yeah and you can't get what you want without challenging your psyche you've got to you've got to take these steps towards the challenge whatever that is for you well first things work out what that challenges for yeah then take these steps towards it and you are gonna all over yeah I talked about if you remember did you go to Norway yeah for five course yeah they talk about when you're going down if you look did you learn to ski okay so this is how the military teach to ski they put the worst kits on you the worst skis the worst leather boots on you you're gonna put it to the top of a mountain and they go off you go and then you fall down the mountain and learn as you fall yeah the rules are you fall forwards don't fall on your ass you're falling on your ass you're not trying hard enough right yeah so you have to fall forwards and that's how you're gonna learn it's like the equivalent of chucking yourself in the deep end yeah and that's how they teach and is it the best you know you've got to parents are very good teachers clearly you know is that the best way to learn I don't know well that's the way I've learned and it's yeah way that I've learnt to face a problem almost throw myself at the pond it's not always the best way especially in relationships yeah always throw yourself at that problem sometimes it's good to listen but you know that is big I talk about there's a book that I steer people towards by Ryan holiday called the obstacle is the way right and it's all about it's based in stoic philosophy yeah there's things you can control and there's things that you control if there's something you want there's a problem that obstacle yeah don't avoid it because you're gonna have to come around a face and then there's ways that you can break it down and go over it around it and again it's a it's a great book for sort of understanding and we've I think done yeah in our field sports people have done again sports people have got professionals they've got a weekly measure of their performance with a league table with their news articles and they have to face that every single day we don't face that no no no we are but they've they've got that regular sort of metric about to measure and there's the fans Twitter accounts yeah slates in them or positive reinforcement it's like they have to do it a lot our world is very discrete and here's that kind of judges and court each other oh it's a high bar I'm not belittling it yes that's well yeah you know you're joining a unit where it's high performance is expected from when you're joining you immediately thrown into life-threatening situations and you want to be there but equally you want to be part of the team you don't want to be stunned you don't sound scary when and and and that's it that's it as well everybody everybody is working on such a high level yeah you cannot drop the ball you cannot and how did you do without them so yeah it's a hard one you never tably the the SF world is not a nine-to-five job you don't you don't go in there and you just turn up for work and you do that you have to you have to move constantly and evolve and all the new bits of kit and every skill set you're doing it in your own time yeah and that's how you learn and then you but you will back me up on this one goes the amount of new bits of kit and and it evolved with technology and we've got this new bit of tech and this new bit of tech you've got to be all over this because next week we're taking it on the ground and there you are at night reading manuals you know and as much as I hide away from academic stuff because I just watch a soldier and all that sort of thing I find myself coming through manuals and learning what drive in that dedication because you think the main part you know what it is is the the ethos of everybody read everybody oughta call together you put yourself in in amongst driven individuals it drives you usability to people this ethos over this these other people and organization you care about right so to avoid doing the hard work you're not do there's words for it he's Jack y'all can after himself yes there's a language for it you don't want to be that do you say no you bought into this process and these this this accountability ultimately and I think again this is what I'm trying to unpick this is one of the things that people avoid that accountability that leadership in a nutshell is you join you'll be get you've given responsibilities straightaway he might be in charge of a box of equipment that's worth hundreds or thousands of pounds but that's your responsibility from the day you join your role as a junior leader is to manage that as well as you can because there's important bits of kit that we were going to need in the future undoubtedly we need to have that but people now avoid responsibility because they fear judgment but actually it's is by step this this process into you think I think that yeah I think you're right this is what you have to do one of my big things is but life will not give you anything you have to go out there and get it yeah if you if you expect life to turn round and to give you that giving you success and give you something it's not going to happen you've got to go out there at the you know hitting the obstacle the obstacles there you've got to take it on yeah yes you will fail at times you've gotta put yourself in that position to fail if you're not in that position then you're never gonna find out what you can do there was a brilliant I watch this thing it was a sort of a human experiment basically it was done on television it was and they've got a bunch of people together that's some that deemed themselves as unlucky some that Dean themselves as lucky yeah so of these people that I've never been lucky and other people seems to work you know I've done this and this was successful cetera and they brought these people together and interesting the actual it started before they even knew it because they said right Kate there's been a delay we're not gonna start for another hour so but if everybody goes to the canteen go get us a cup of cup of coffee sit down there we'll give you a call when we're ready and they were filming this now interestingly what they found was this was a hundred percent across the board was that people would queue up to go get a coffee they'd go get a coffee and then the people that deemed themselves as lucky would look around the cafeteria walk up to somebody on the table and say here's everybody sitting there sit down next to him go alright you know my name's stitch all right how you do what you doing down here chatting with people and they did the people that deemed the cells has been unlucky found a table furthest away from anybody else and so I was down on their own in the corner because they weren't opening themselves up to any opportunity sir so they were denying themselves the chance of actually succeeding by avoiding conversin yeah 100% I know you know you say that a by the person they're always in a group of people wants to go and chat to people no no no because it's uncomfortable and you know you know I think growing up one of my biggest fears was it girls going over talking to in China still it's like not my not interested in that yeah you know you know I mean and that's but still would be fearful of that kind of scenario so it's not easy but it's that willingness to it's that failing forward rather than failing back yeah put yourself there to fail isn't it and do you think that's been the the common thread between your injuries of your success I think each and every time and really quite severe managed to battle through and and and push on and always when I have had one of those bit those big setbacks is there I've always wanted to get back up to where I was and and bring myself back up to that level and it's it's been a hard slog I mean it's been miss them off yeah vote for the record I did a interview with a Rob Parker shout out to rob a former professional rugby league player yeah a league hit man there's not many bones he's not broken but yeah right can you going to be a challenger here broken right ankle who's been out pinned tib-fib is pinned and plated left ankle is pinned left knee has been rebuilt three times now I don't all the ligaments were replaced of any ligaments that are my own in loose well I've got two anyway yeah I've got two donors and the others are grafts so somebody who didn't need them yeah couple of people didn't need it was donated to my knee so it worked grateful I'm sure yeah perfectly well broken wrists dislocated this shoulder twice broke my ribs ribs on my left hand side oh yeah that was punctured out your face yeah fate us bits that I sock has been done twice that's now wired here and a bionic man mate I was together I think that's so that was so that was in January and then February [Laughter] death I think that's that's them the majority I have lots of broken fingers and hands and sounds those are little don't count them yeah that's all you if you listen and that's all you've ever done you have those weren't anything significant there so if a lot as a kid yeah and I think I think the hospital staff used to think my parents used to beat me up because I would of I broke my arms four times growing up left arm twice right on twice falling off things falling out of trees that sort of stuff and it was I put it down to not drinking enough milk not Wolverine yeah so the same you are willing to do stuff that is risky and I think like MotoGP I know you're a bike [ __ ] yeah they fall off in training they don't wanna fall off in the race but you've gotta fall off in training and that's in our old world we would training would take us to failure and we would want to fail in training we go too fast in certain scenarios so we know where the limits are you need to know where that is and then you can wire it back wind it back when sort of and you need to so that's I think again this fear culture off yeah there's fear culture of not challenging yourself or not facing a thing that you really want to do it's funny you say that about about culture and in the fact we see one day Society is it's it's massively trying to limit everybody with this Health and Safety and all this sort of thing okay we're safe t sort of things and this is just was we accept the risks in in arrow in the workshop the guy they work with but he's only got the use one by the way so it's very interesting since he's been working here no but he's interesting character hit Todd man talking about risk there's a guy right he was blown up in Afghanistan lost the use of his right arm he's got a fused right leg and he races motorcycles credible he races did the Greek rally last year before absolutely amazing boy so he's out there is that yes so what I can make did an interview with Markham rotten if you have the middleman yes blown to smithereens in Afghanistan one arm left and make the things he does now the things that his life has taken the gratitude he's got for life is completely diff absolutely sort of changed my perspective listening to him and sort of talking to him because yeah the ability to kind of this is your circumstances now and you can change that and you can go after it work out what it is again ever as they say yeah and go after something new and that's powerful stuff but yeah when people have got perspective that's what he's got Billy hasn't it so Billy's got perspective and I'm sure it motivates him to get out of bed in the morning so now because isn't it in worse things have been worse than what there are now and you know you can have that if it's never been difficult you've got no perspective and nothing it's life's easy now themselves from the from the difficulties and and and the hardships and and and the fact that you've got to go through discomfort you've got to go through discomfort to to understand you we understand yourself sort of the probably the biggest thing I took away from my career in the military and SF was I learned so much about me yeah so much about self yeah I knew found out what I was what I was good at what I was crap you know but where I was fantastic where I excelled where I where I was terrible and what I needed to build in myself as a person and and to achieve what I wanted to do and and the guy well the guys you know it was the blokes it was all the lads around you that we we learned and we helped each other along and none of it was we didn't work and and just critique a guy cuz he were because he wasn't up to speed with something right let's go around him bring you up to speed let's get him there you know and then afterwards you know and I've been that guy when I was particularly crap at something and the guys write me where it's going wrong is this okay no that's it yeah sound yeah got it banging that's all I they did just a little bit's way to think that's trust and trust in your your team to kind of help each other out there yeah there's not I didn't ever feel like there was competition where I was worried about the person left of me promoting quicker or getting paid more than me that just didn't exist that's all about this organization that just that trust now again I'll do a bit of work in elite sport now Premier League football etc with a few companies and the younger lads fear are they they are afraid of judgment and we all are so we all fear that judgment but they've got this media that can sort of pick holes in what they do from a real early agent so they have to deal with that and a lot of them can't they really struggle with it but they've also got such there in these top-flight academies yeah and they've got opportunity like you wouldn't believe you have to go and work your balls off for they all up your what you virtue they've they've got incredible amounts of skill dedication and motivation to get where they are but also in an environment now where everything is on a plate where yeah they don't clean that boots they don't do all these basic things because it's all about right let's just make them better at their skills and it's not quite privileged and they don't I in my opinion humble opinion they don't push them in necessarily the physical and mental ways that we would have been pushed where you're what you've described you getting this feedback of learning about yourself yeah unless you learn about yourself you don't know when the chips are down how you're going to react we would do that in every single facet of what we do wouldn't be and then when the chips were down in in operations if you like we kind of know how everyone's going to react because you've been there you know this is what this is what the selection process does some of my darkest moments on the selection but never once did I think I was going to quit but it was some of my darkest moment yes burning about thinking to myself flare panic and why is this really happening yeah woe is me one of the really interesting times on selection for in arrogation and he attire Janaka the worst thing they ever did no you see doll this thing was throw me in a room turn the lights off and let me go to sleep sobs mate literally three we on the floor and I was like I know you know I've been away it for days I was just thinking I was just thinking I know I think they left me for about 10-15 minutes enough for me to drop right and then they came in and I'm not Kenya I didn't even know I was on selection is this planet I've spoken up I walked into a room they sat me down there's this lady self oh there was in the middle of rooms a sausage roll now I've not eat any place I've not eaten in days most wondrous thing I've ever seen there and long story short all out to do is give some information to to kind of eat the sausage roll and I didn't but I just made a dive for this sausage rolls I guess I picked it up scrambled for it dropped um and a little bit of pastry mate I left stuffed it in my mouth this little bit of pastry like this god absolutely thrashed for about three hours before we fail forward it's a massive sausage rolls would be so beautiful so mate talk to me about your well why did you end up leaving by that if that's all right yeah and then sort of what next really he said that the sort of leaving scenario and again this is I could say what you can yeah say well it was it was really interesting though the way I left the service and nothing derogatory to the service of tour wasn't it wasn't people much higher on I wrote than there so I ended up with massive amounts of issues with my ankles because they've been dislocated and pinned except for there's holes in the tailless bones if so there's little bones and squares in your own color everything pivots around and there was puncture holes in those you know way too much about your Anatomy nowadays yeah little drawings of things and pins and screws and all this it's great I call them up great yeah so this upgrade mob's there were no real stairs is there a connection with you taking [Music] plane for transformers as a kid right oh yeah lots of that make will bring screw some more plates in and say I quite quite a lot of damage and damage to my left knee as well which limited what I could do so I was working in a sort of admin capacity in my last year just organizing exercise and I went dying inside yeah just horrific because what we said you were you know flatlining you were you were plateau in in your career you know you wanted the constant pursuit of excellence call it what you will you're kind of striving for excellence and you weren't getting that because you were injured yeah I'm injured but there's no chance for motion you've gotta be fully fit skipper married I can't go anyway I'm stagnating and and I go on the they but the board so the Medical Board which they assess your situation and they say whether the it would be a detriment to you to keep you on because of the damage to you and they and they agreed across the board they said look with the damage to your ankles and stuff we're going to put you through for medical discharge okay so yeah I'm gonna leave okay that's just as it is not a problem at this time I'd had a a an injury previous which was money so although man cause they decided that was going to go out but my knee was still an issue they said they said all right k but we need to assess the knee as well but you're gonna get discharged in six months time which was the April so I'm there waiting knew that it was this cliff edge yes so it's coming up and then I get this they're assessing the knee whereas I'm a snapped PCL and stuff like that I mean at caliper and we go back to the Navy so go see the guy in a chair at the time and they go back to the Navy and they point for an extension because my knees shortened because it's it's a mess I'm in a big cage and then coaches often so so they said rat cake well we're putting for an extension will get your knee because cetera so I come through to April and we waiting I believe it was September when I was supposed to be a vimini reconstructed they put in for a six-month extension go through April May June and then I get my pension and gratuity still in I'm still in extending so back to HR hey they do this just come through it's got my pension and good chassis I'm supposed to be cracking on so so yeah in the wrong they said we're gonna extend for six months it goes back to the Navy because we come under the Navy and goes back to them and they say and they say right okay there's obviously been a mistake it goes backwards and forwards between the SBS and the Navy saying look this guy this needs to be revoked because he's been he's been T exterminator so he's gone outside and he's still working here is getting his knee because after a lot of to enough rowing backwards over nearly a month with the Navy the Navy's final decision was he was terminated back in a poke and he's not our responsibility anymore yeah hang on a minute mate how many years did you know at that point 21 and you decayed your life to that organization up to this point yes and sir is a kick in the plums yeah that is a kick in the pants absolutely other vague memories of them yeah it's um Bob I can remember that because this is again this is going to sound heartless I mean I can remember you going outside and people saying I've been stiffed yeah that's been stiffed that's outrageous blah blah and then the machine just kept rolling weird you were just on a train that's it and so we're often I just forgot that that had happened yeah and so so I was then given a period of time to pack my bags and leave very unceremoniously from from the service and and I must emphasize this this was not to do the SPS yep they they fought tooth and nail for my case it was the powers that be in the Navy command that said no not interested just a number he's gone so so I went outside the new construction in September was was axed because it was so I was outside still in the caliper at that point and it's scandalous in it you know and and is it the first time I've heard similar no and I've heard of similar because again having gone off and on my thing now in the real world outside my organization nobody cares anything should there be a phone call every six months when you first leave to sort of say I've been all right yeah I don't know I don't know is the answer I've been fine but I'm sure there's some people that haven't but there's no there's no accountability after you've gone it kind of it's it's the precipice isn't it and again I speak to elite sportsmen about this when their careers over it's done you have a sudden the agents finally enough that they loved you at the time all of us are not so interested I feel like it's a similar sort of scenario and then you as your identity well I'm a this is what I am this is who I've always built now self to this yeah and actually not only are you not that anymore you're actually broken physically with body parts that don't work like they did and you go it says I've given along so I mean then what what happened that's it I will ended up going on to the NHS waiting list and I got a knee reconstruction in the January of the year after so that was January 17 and process after that and the needs really good actually knees really really good for shout out to there HS yes well done they did a fantastic job it's don't get me wrong it's not my 21 year old me he's certainly it's certainly a little bit stiffer a bit slower but works actually I've just I just attempted to do some running it's been five years since everyone because I was advised not to run again but just on a treadmill turns out running sad for you mate and wait who'da thought who downhill with a heavy pack for many hours it turns out it's not very good for me yeah I knew back just so now you've got this I look around and yeah this facility mate I saw this forming on Facebook right I'm again popped in every now and again and I'm like now it's thriving seemingly yeah talk to me about this was something and now I speak to guys man and there I remember you talking about this years ago yeah you know when we're out on operation yeah and you said you know when I leave the service I'm gonna build a motorcycle workshop which is what I want it's all saying people gold sir and he says there was there wasn't it it was there it was what I wanted to do because I've been race bikes and built bikes and did all my stuff that was my free time stone and my better my big philosophy and ethos was right if I can do some things that I love doing if I put the drive and effort in that I've put in the service into building my own business and that was a big thing for me I wanted to do something on my own yeah I worked for a big organisation yeah I've done that yeah I didn't want to work for somebody else yeah what'd you see what can I do me little old hitch on his own let's my onic - yes see what he can do today long and so be able to leave the service that that little bit earlier all it did was bring those plans for forward I debated well you you say that humbly other people would have probably gone this is too much too soon I'm not ready for this yeah woe is me and my life is flipped upside down I can't cope and deal with all these problems but actually I would say you've seen it as an opportunity do you face the challenge the challenge is come soon all right yeah and I think that's the key again all this podcast is about understanding that I think what I would say to what you just said we all have just tossed it out there yeah I've just brought it forward no my think that is that's powerful in the sense of you you were sure that that's what you wanted to do and rather than avoid it you walk towards it yeah walk toward that gunfire rather than sort of run away from it right yeah that was it and the challenge then was let's make this trance reality yeah certainly at no point in time that ever sit well with me doing no point in time don't ever think I'm JA bene more you know there's nobody backing me up so what so what you know so tell me a little bit about um don't worry about it it's not a problem let's get on let's let's play it and let's see here we go this one at this place I came across by chance really and it wasn't this stinking of shellfish this whole play it was a it was an old shellfish processing plant and so I opened up the roll it this had not been rented out for about three four years and they couldn't rent out nobody wanted some big challenges in my life is this is this think of the space think this place here this is this could be amazing okay yeah it's full of goof everywhere stuff everywhere there was where the actual bar and the deccan is now that was all big concrete base where they wash the shellfish stuff like that half of that be not guarantee I'll DUP all sorts and I thought no this space is fantastic I think little bit of our book and we could call in a few favors this would be all right here so I said I thank you I did I did negotiate actually that I was gonna have set I think he was about six months rent-free because that's all it take you feel to fit a time you'll be good to go yeah well if you know are we good I look back because I was doing littles like [Music] you know you you were flocking I'm up to speed this funding go stuff so I was doing them and agree with me in about four weeks months or so I love this dog for weeks door no not at all and it's all set to work on it anyway and I sort of this is one of the things yep we were gonna hit on was what's the biggest thing I took away from the forces was one of the abilities to focus and just not not give up on anything not give up on something when a task seems unending don't ever give up on it because you can make it work yeah I'm can I've started working in there it's just me on my own and I ripped the place out completely the worst jobs going because it was full of your old respirator there was crabs in the single [ __ ] there's crabs in the ceiling not like I was out there everything there was nothing that would run live in this place so humans broken yeah it just means sprocket yeah there are what jet washing the same lead like hundreds he is it covered in black and it was freezing cold in January me like I seen her a predator me yes what from the fact I mean overalls just didn't even hunts and wellies washing all that out clean this place out and then style internally big thanks to my brother my brother helped me out immensely what alleged me him and Nick and he they came down several weekends and what what a skilled joiner can do in two days is just phenomenal when you see these boys rattly out and they helped build all the framework and everything for the rooms the room was saying that yeah very nice it is yeah all that all the framework and everything and did that and he was superb but my job is done oh man did I have a lot of help from the Lapps every now and again lads had popped out in the lunch hour yeah but free fees for your likes fit free fits fancy moves been a load of breezeblocks you're gone so and so I mean how long has it been awful really no it's three years now and where did it start and where are you at now so when we first started what was the plan what's the vision whereas at this was the first coming in there you were tinkering in it so this was really workshop was and what I wanted to do which is build motors now it's the podcast room what is it this is specifically the podcast right yeah because we do so many of these so much space so many rooms I'm glad we've got some you so empty for a year [Laughter] original way to build that build the bikes and that was the main focus it was do the bikes but do affordable bikes and and a new thing old older machines didn't really want to get into the new stuff there it's so difficult to work with it with new motorcycles to stuff especially with everything electronically managed plug it into a laptop you know you're pressing keys and stuff like that not my bag and he'd be in there fiddling with carburetors and if there was all that sort of stuff and getting into it and and working with those cell bikes and much prefer that yeah so that's what I wanted to do was build the bikes and we were I was doing it I was doing a few but what I found was that I started doing live music events yeah them with the social temporary events license I'll just apply to we call officiants yeah temporary sighs apply two weeks in advance and the council give me a license to put a bar on and a band and we become to work we hit fantastically far more than the Bison you know and and we were doing that and that was really really good so and it was great so she's you know bringing it bringing lots of people in and it became a real focus for sort of the the Dorset area of not only people who are interested in motorcycles but people like things a little bit quirky different and not you your normal run-of-the-mill it's not a Starbucks and I think people really like that I think that's that's another thing that I think people well they're people some some councils are missing out a tree on is that they're they're not helping the small businesses at all and they're focusing on bringing in big corporate companies such as Custer and Starbucks a feeling it might be something to do it might be something to open my fingers in the money way yeah what so where is it where is it now that's now interest through the day yeah we've we've done a TV show called if I saw it me Soren talk to me do you know what that came out the blue as well yeah that was something I'd done a little sort of film with the ruling rogues another ex cracking lies and the thing they're doing you know what we're on the great things about them is they were doing so so well people have began to emulate them agreed there because it's a copy no one's copying me yet that's fine some people heard of speech [Laughter] yeah yes precisely all right I see a lot of this stuff about over yeah good for now absolutely yeah so we did the rolling right yes so I did this bit with rolling rogue this is the foot which interesting he was the first film rolling road done so Jax came to me except me one of starts company the rolling rogues we want to do we want to do social media films stuff like that can we do an example film your shop yeah why not I mean that's one of the biggest things I always say don't say no to any proach a few weeks ago you were because when all the TV stuff was blowing up oh oh you're abroad and a message in my mind I'd like to float the idea of having a chat with you this was all blowing up there could be a yeah to thingy multi-use shall we say yeah and you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and then last week I sort of message you again mate still up for a catch-up blah blah blah and I was like me I'm thinking about doing a pod and you were like I've never really done that sort of thing before what yeah let's do it yeah I mean and it was that that's exactly how you were yeah think about it yeah and it's I think it goes all the way back to taking opportunities that yeah you in the explanation you gave earlier you're in a cafeteria and you go over and out the chat because you making the most of an opportunity yeah so why not see what happens learn FIBA what's the worst that could happen so yeah we did that with Jax and it was really good and that was his first film that went out there and lots of people sort of watched it and somehow it filtered its way into some sort of media sectors of people were involved in making TV programmes yeah - actually I tell you where it came from Gaza on frozen fries he was working with Grant Wardrop who was who's the producer of it he was over in the States working around and and it's filtered through all these people and grant does it scene Inc are a grown look at that place that looks interesting well I wonder if you'd be up for a chat same gun just messaged me on Facebook and said would you be interested in having a chat about something yeah what's this is a common theme I was like yeah I don't even know what it's about mate yeah if you want to come down that's cool so he came down and we had a chat and he said look a vibe what you doing here I like the the actual space that you work in would you be interested in doing something potentially putting something together for a TV show yeah why not course why not what an opportunity yes brilliant opportunity fantastic so we did make this little 10-minute film that went to the BBC for their consideration and they liked it and they gave us a budget to do a pilot and so we then did the pilot yeah now the pilot saw on television what went now that was like it's still on iPlayer now isn't it yes a coat it's not the speed shot the speed shop Tesco mask the speed shop don't BBC I mean God you know we got the boot the BBC two Top Gear slot you know I mean I mean it okay it was a pilot book Wow to get actually out in that in in that time slot primetime Wow unheard of really awesome made but it went really really well and and what you saw that was only it only because we had so much of what we've done throughout that thing we probably had minimum to two hours so two one-hour episodes pushing into three three hours with 15 the premise for people that haven't seen it so it's a you've got the shop it's a little bit about the shop you're taking old motorbikes old cars and turning them give me a new lease of life and then you've also taken a veteran amputee rejigged a bike yeah my words and then gone on a massive tour where did you go on the on the trail that was across the Alps across the Alps oh no no simple 2005 it was it was a proper road and and fair play to Chris he's a surname Christopher yeah Chris and fair play to him either so recently I lost a leg no and for him to actually want to go out there and do that guts tell you why Eve that's another thing as well by the way it's which is where both ex-marines para reg good punch Alonso good punch a through dark early yeah and I've been Jay oh yeah great dynamic you know the pain and both of power both the SAS and SBS ano Marine teams we're the same animals it's the same mindset you've seen something from whatever your motivations to join the military you've seen something well that looks like the biggest challenge yeah because you could have joined any other regiment and no no slight on slant or any other regiment you've seen and gone that looks like the biggest challenge I'm going for that it's the same mindset yeah whether you've been successful or not and so that yeah yeah great lots great license was such a such a gritty individual and the bigger biggest thing challenge bad word that was because Chris was so small he's five foot he's five foot forward a good day he says bigger than a thousand yes so there he is and he's got a 28 inch inside leg which is quite sure and he's got a prosthetic leg you know if you don't know really tall bison or something and you could teach ballet yeah so then the see yeah it's gotta be really low anyone ever thought about you remember saying I remember saying that to make it all work exactly so we had to redesign it and do that so as much as okay couldn't we use the way that was the easy bit moving the rear braking about fitting that was the chances of that being turned into a show if you were to Helen percentage I'm gonna be positively 98 there's only two percent of the BBC they're still deliberating this also listen in BBC's to my positivity this is it and this is what you get may I genuinely loved it I watched it I shared it around a few people I know that's watched it they've gone that is really good and I know a few lads people that aren't in the military that have come to the s bomb every now and again I think get to know you a little bit they've watched anything that's brilliant yeah really good in there people are hope because again it's come across in this pod but yeah you're an easy guy to chat to you're an easy guy to sort of watch in the mines you know and so it's made it be mega for that to get turned into interesting is that the feedback I've got off across the board was that it was so refreshing to see somebody out there who's done our job who just just something the way that the way well the way we are yeah not being vicious the guys who are doing do the TV shows but obviously they're doing this DES side of things yeah where they're directing staff and they're aggressive you know which yeah without a doubt each and every one of a capable of moving into a more aggressive mode very very quickly as we have to do normally as per normal people we mean screaming it's all it's it's it's not trying to be like what it was is it and that's my issue with it in the sense that it's not authentic to the organization I knew I never shouted at people in my job I just didn't need to you know working alongside people that wanted to be there like to work god you were sort of aligned high-performance teams don't yeah and so yeah but it's it is what it is very similar mate you watch what you did and it was very authentic to what I knew yeah it's that humor in the face of adversity things are going wrong but what are you gonna do you laugh about you sort of work together with people you trust you've got to the team yeah yeah there's Billy Billy in the back one arm Billy yeah or wet fish fish and then Martin mind one's own but he does like fiberglass and paintwork if we need it like that and mocks in and one of the big contributors the unsung hero I John Nelson what an absolute legend so John was an x-ray me guy he's that used to work with us actually in the works yeah that's right yeah Wow what that guy can't do or make up a bit Mel is unbelievable yeah it's a fantastic guy and I've known John for ages as well so it was really good that was my gut feeling about it it was authentic mate and it was an easy watch and I genuinely hope they sort of turn it into something yeah yeah so maybe to do that we're gonna have to start wrapping this yeah yeah one of the questions that I like to leave people with it yeah I'm gonna throw you a hand grenade here all gone so if you could give advice to your younger self what was the kind of one or two pieces advice that you've learned through all these challenges broken body parts yet cetera stuck between railings blood yeah you've done all these things you've learned what is the advice that you would give to your younger self so people listening can take away that's what I should do drink milk against drinking milk anyway [Laughter] certainly I would encourage myself to follow my own my own my own dreams and not listen to anything not listen to anybody listen to good advice and not nice nos bad advice yeah ignore the naysayers because there always will be there'll always be those people that say you can't and you can't do this because of this because of that absolutely pointless really if they were constructive and and gave you everybody say right okay it seems a little bit unfeasible however if you dedicate so that you could achieve it oh yeah I'd certainly tell myself ignore the nation that's often I think in what's one of the things familiar sort of thing that people say similar thing that people say and I think part of that is the naysayers are often just reflect in their own fears of yeah well they wouldn't dare do that so that sounds like too big a challenge for them yeah and so us we're the weird ones sometimes aren't we with the weird ones because our lives have been a constantly facing the challenges and wiggled through and learned and yeah he back and built this kind of resilience is the buzzword yeah built this resilience through finding out that actually fallen over forward ain't so bad if he just dust yourself off you've learned and then you can go a few broken backs exactly yeah you know and you can keep going so yeah there anything else that you kind of um in fact when I was sort of thinking about what I was going to do and I leave again because partly what I do now is work once along with people execs people in the workplace sports people whatever about working out how to optimize what they do and prove what they do think better perform better yeah feel better and just sort out the life and the overwhelm with work and life balance there's all these kinds of things and I work with sport working high-performance teams and I work with corporate improve teams and all of that you know if you'd have asked me or when I when I was transitioning and thinking that that's what I would like to do help him working with people I remember this guy that meant all that the service the military put in front of me to say let's this is a person who's got experience listen to him this is like yeah good advice when you transition it transitioning means something different these days doesn't actually probably not use their tonight I mean I'm not transition that sounds like a might I'm not but he was like our coaching mentoring his like I said it's it's a saturated environment don't don't think about getting into that everyone's trying to do it and I was like I took that advice and I went oh that's kind of not me a little bit because that's what I really wanted to do and I think the reality is if you think if there's something saturated something everybody's doing it means there's a actually a there's a lot of people that want it if you're other people are doing it you've just got to stand out from the crowd and you've got to be passionate and be better and to offer something different and I think find your niche or find your passion do it because actually do you not this makes me feel better by trying to help people use my experiences to help people do whatever it is they want to do and apply it to their their experiences in their world and actually I found guess what the bloke who was this apparently person that should be offering his sound advice was wrong and it's going really well I think really so I think that's a valuable thing don't listen to the naysayers definitely and so from that that one away from the fact of what I tell my younger self certainly what I've given up quite a bit of advice and talk to a lot of people who were leaving the forces and services like that one of the biggest bits of our by I've given them was to look what what do you do in your spare time what do you enjoy it what flicks your switch don't just think your one trick pony just because you've been in the military you think that are the only thing I can do with security you couldn't be further from the truth yeah absolutely you put that same amount of Drive and effort into what you want to do something you really enjoy doing then you'll succeed and you'll make it happen yeah that's and that's the whole point of this book has really made that there's you would driven and motivate to go buy off some big challenges in your time some seemingly huge but you made it through because you were just driven them and that is the same if you apply to anything anything that you want to do NIMS is like the far-right extremist yeah you know that pinnacle is that literally the pinnacle setting everest is a perception change a big style and big shout out to names and but yeah so and I think that is true of everyone isn't it and and I think people that leave the military have got this massive fear old organizations no different to that people have got a whole load of fear about what they're gonna do where they fit in yeah because the easy option is that security yeah job which is a comfort blanket and no not to any gun that doesn't I understand whether there's a lot of money to be earned there and in some cases it needs to be done so fair play to him but again I thought it's a there's a junction when you leave that's a junction way the decisions you make then will have a reaction on where you are five ten twenty years time and that's an opportunity and rather than yeah just that opportunity come yeah I couldn't agree with you more and again just sat here with you today tips looking around it's friggin awesome may I absolutely love it everywhere look there's something brilliant about it and it's yours it's authentic it's the TV show places and work there's worse places to finish yours make your little baby really appreciate your time oh just finally where can people find you follow you what can they earn oh yeah you can find us on Instagram on the s-bahn vintage workshop and we've got a Facebook page as well we also have the speed shop TV that's the TV show Instagram page so yeah you can find us on there and check out what we do you always do somewhat weird yes quality mate thanks for your time mate thank you [Music]

Channel: Duratus UK

Views: 14,787

Rating: 4.9764705 out of 5

Keywords: UKSF, Duratus, duratus uk, S Bomb, Special Forces, Royal Marines, Parachute Regiment, RM, Mindset, Perfomance, Determination, Titch Cormack, Gaz Banford, resilience, military, military transition, SOF

Id: 1kdvs8QPi3k

Length: 84min 53sec (5093 seconds)

Published: Sat Apr 18 2020