The BIGGEST Gaming PC Build 2023! - LIVE! 🤩 O11 Dynamic Evo XL, i7 13700K, RTX 4070 Ti

and there's a direct whoa then there's a very dramatic delay and the video should start and everyone watching should be greeted by the lovely I was going to say the lovely piece of centric I mean that is a little bit like big-headed but no today thank you everyone for joining us we're going to be doing the biggest gaming PC build and not just in terms of some very heavy and very large specs but because we've got this thing in here and I wanted to go through this with you guys um this is the brand new case from Liam Lee it's the o11 dynamic Evo XL I mean they're not making the names any easier but to be fair they are still easy enough I suppose to remember and we're going to be putting together a pretty epic little PC build this is going to be i7 CPUs a very high end and while we're using a 4070 here we're using it because it's white and this case has a really weird way of displaying your GPU like upright here so we're going to be looking at that seeing whether that's actually going to work and we're going to be building ourselves a probably epic white gaming PC in what is the biggest heaviest case really we've tested in a long time only exception to that is the phantax nv7 I'm looking at Carl at the moment Cole hello hello I've moved location now so I'm over this direction he's over there he's over there today um I didn't like the nv7 because I thought the sort of weighting of it was two at the bottom and then there was a very big gap at the top whereas this I think is going to be a lot more friendly for people to build in because if you don't want to deck it out with everything it's still going to look good whereas the phanteks one unless you had loads and loads of stuff in it it looked a little bit odd but hello to everyone in the chat let's get our build on who have we got Carl and uh yeah what people saying oh we literally just got a one pound Super Chat Set Super Chat I do that every time there's a Super Chat do you know YT oh it's got a little one with it I don't know what that means oh it's their first Super Chat thank you oh oh first Super Chat that gets like a bonus first Subaru chat that's fun there you go uh so yeah we've got we've got some we've got the moderators here got rivstar Adi owq Discord gang join the Discord pieces Discord Discord link is down below you've got loads of people in there ready 205 people watching right now oh this is heavy this is so Overkill this is a massive power supply we'll go through all of the components by the way step by step and walk you through what's good and what's not because obviously this is going to be hopefully a helpful PC guide for you um and I know you guys actually watched loving this in the archive after so hello to everyone that's watching this after the fact as well uh obviously no cuts on this one so if something goes wrong as we guys know already had some in the Discord we heard you oh is this gonna go better the last time yes it is guaranteed 100 because it's a bigger case I'm a bit worried about actually sorting this vertical GPU man out but other than that it should be business as usual business as usual is bad it should be better than usual how about that it should go as intended go as intended yes um but yeah we've got people rocking in the chat yeah we've got plenty of people um Ollie Ollie 43 just said hey man FYI you can load Luts onto the OBS so the visuals can look like your videos we don't actually use OBS we just use the uh Blackmagic atom mini pro we were talking about this earlier actually we will be improving the live streams over time basically long story short we uh have a lot on this and then we then do further edits in post whereas at the moment we're obviously just able to use that initial so we will fix that but I realize that's not interesting to everyone so let's go over to the overhead and start talking about the first piece of the puzzle this is the motherboard this is the N7 z790 it is a completely white motherboard nzxc boards are decent but I think a lot of people would probably go for one that they've maybe used before I don't have any problems with this board other than the fact that the price is usually a little bit more expensive than some of the competition purely because it's like one of these ntxd boards but if you're going to use things like nzlc fans or you really do want this sort of hard cover to go in a white build I think it does look great if you're going for a black build normal motherboards are probably fine and probably a little bit cheaper if you'd agree with that Carl yeah yeah completely yeah foreign buy whatever matches your budget really we've had another Super Chat another Super Chat wait hold on hang on a minute let's get that on is that working yes another sister one pound from Max Farnell thank you very much Max thank you so much that is uh there's no bag for that there's no bag that's probably because I lost it yeah I would never do no sorry you lost it okay when I put it away yeah last time I forgot my on-screen camera character blames everyone else for my mistakes yeah not me I would never do such a thing no um but the character does PC Centric yeah this was actually this we're gonna go all like philosophical here right um for a second because I think there are plenty of YouTubers out there that basically form like a YouTube personality and then you know the quote from Dark Knight you either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain yeah I think that what applies for YouTubers you either uh die me which would be Marcus or you live long enough to become PC Centric yeah I know quite a few YouTubers that are no longer actual person anymore they they have become the character they have become that's who they are on a person the on-screen Personality yeah mentioning no names I mean it's not necessarily A Bad Thing It's just sometimes I think it's a bit sad it's like come back to reality please please come back but there we go remember who you were yeah remember who you were man have time for everybody anyway that sounds a little bit so let's move on uh to the CPU which I've remembered now is my favorite component in the world because that's the wrong camera because um look at The Branding on this this was the year that Intel's marketing department basically went you know what we're going to let Marcus have a go at The Branding this is the best I could come up with um do let me know your thoughts on this in the comment section below for me that's good that's all I'm saying um obviously Jokes Aside this is uh the i7 13700k and this is a really good CPU interestingly actually Carl has just finished um doing some heavy CPU benchmarking uh we'll be doing full videos on this um primary reason was because I went away on holiday um for like nine days or so and it meant that he actually had some work to do so there we go you had some interesting findings so run us through your findings car while I install the CPU and we move on to RAM and things like that yeah I'd say I was quite surprised to see just how close all of the Intel CPUs actually perform to each other I mean what was your like sort of go-to super CPU did you think before you did the testing before the testing obviously would have been 7800 X 3D yeah there's a lot I think it still is just because you know the closest competition being the I9 is I think that the x3d is like cheaper now as well it's like 380. yeah yeah yeah I mean we've got a video coming um either tomorrow the day after where we do some best builds and yeah it's about 380 pounds I paid 400 for mine yeah so you know that's really good I know it's only an eight core CPU but it probably is the best gaming CPU yeah really um I9 will beat it in some things yeah um yeah also there's some interesting stuff about Ram but we'll let Carl explain that um well I'll say in a second I mean okay let's talk about it now um let's move on to the ram we're using some white Ram here this is the Vengeance RGB ddr5 5600 megahertz but does the speed matter as much as we think Carl uh yes it does it matters surprisingly a lot but is it the speed or is it the latency both both uh so this is a kit of uh it's a cl36 this one thing uh I think so yeah um I think yeah I think this is cl36 I mean it says I'm at 36 36 36 76. so I would imagine so yeah c36 c36 um and basically we sort of discovered that Intel we sort of knew this already yeah but we didn't quite realize how dramatic the difference is depending on the ram that you use you will get very different results because we are using 6000 megahertz Ram across all of our CPU tests and the idea was we keep it fair we use the same RAM for everything um but then the word Fair doesn't necessarily come into it because it's a very hard thing to be fair Because unless you're using the absolute fastest Ram you'll find that you will have some performance penalty over on the AMD side of things but not so much with Intel's we've found that our results are probably going to be a little bit closer between AMD and Intel because the memory are we using it's not there wasn't good it was ridiculously good Ram it's just it's not as optimized shall we say for AMD because the latency is slightly higher than some of the other kits yeah that you can buy so oh this is they're broken it's just a bit loose I think it's okay it's okay um yeah the latency actually makes a massive difference to the performance so I mean what what when you're testing it what do you do do you change everything to suit AMD so that AMD performs as good as it should but then that doesn't really take into account the fact that most people were probably just going to buy a kit of ram at the fastest speed that they can afford and they won't be necessarily getting that level of performance so if you have to buy the top end kits of memory just to get the best level of performance but then you're spending so much money on RAM you could step up to an even better CPU is that fair I don't know it's interesting point isn't it yeah it's such a hard balance because if you're thinking ah well if I get a 7700 and then I you know you get a basic kit of ddr5 for 80 grid and then you think well I want low latency fast Ram that I'm spending 120 pounds that 50 pound difference could be the difference between get an X 3D and not yeah and then it yeah I think it's a tricky one yeah and the same with the Intel stuff you could say if you're not using the fastest you know obviously we know that the AMD CPUs tend to top at around 6000 megahertz you know if you can use faster Ram with the Intel CPU you would then get better performance as well yeah so it's like it's it's not fair on AMD because you're not using the absolute best Ram so then it's not found Intel either yeah so surely you could say oh actually it's a good it's bet it's an advantage for Intel that it works with fast arguably better with a slightly slower Ram um than AMD does yeah so if you then change the test to suit A and D then in a way you're taking Wayne Tails Advantage as well so it's a very very difficult one to do but this is why you should always watch multiple reviews and multiple benchmarks because you will find different people get very different numbers and it gives you an idea of uh the pros and cons of each platform right yeah yeah it's all about experimentation especially with everyone whenever a new CPU comes out it's all about right how does this one handle the new speeds and I wasn't moving to ddr5 for everything that's a whole new ball game for everybody yeah yeah exactly everyone's going to have to upgrade their Ram um asked me a year ago I'd say don't bother to stick with ddr4 latency on that was uh it was very good and intended to work for everyone it was a lot cheaper these days the boards have come down a lot and the ram has come down a lot so I'd say just go with ddr5 now um we come back to that topping in just a second though because I'm actually now working on this uh motherboard so we're adding in our SSD and this is an SSD it's not brand new but then it also is brand new because this is one from Samsung and it's not going to be for everyone it's the absolute fastest one that Samsung sell and this is a four terabyte one so it's quite expensive how much is this do you know Carl um if I was a betting man I'd say probably getting on for like 260 quid I'd say more than that would you reckon more than that big money [Music] but it's very easy to install it's a bit upside down here but it doesn't matter this is only uh Gen 4 SSD speeds on this motherboard whereas if you went for a uh AMD motherboard then you might be able to get psygen five support as well I can't even find a four terabyte one no it's only just launched as you said yeah as you said that I was like oh no have we broken the Embargo oh no but no I mean I'm there's plenty of other four terabyte ssds out there yeah I've I have seen it yeah it's all good it's a wd black one which will be similar performance there's 310 now I think they launched this around about Gamescom sort of time because obviously the whole idea with these is that they uh are partly for console people I mean it's a it's a lot of money to spend on an SSD regardless so if I was gonna spend this amount of money then I would definitely get it for uh PC you know I don't think it's worth it uh what am I doing I'm being silly boy I think normal being silly yeah this goes yes that cover goes on there so sorry guys bear with me making mistakes again it's not like me just in time we've had a Super Chat to uh distract everybody so it's a Super Chat no one noticed the mistake Freaky Fred YT Freaky Fred thanks Freaky Fred we like that thank you Freaky Fred I started Gathering the PC parts of my first build I've never owned a PC but your videos have taught me a lot oh I watch you more than Netflix shows really there's good stuff on Netflix that's quite the uh quite the praise I actually quite like the second series of American barbecue Showdown uh I've been enjoying that that's been very good but I I love uh smoking my meat outside so uh it does appeal it does appeal it does appeal people are linking the Discord in the chat if you guys do want to sign up there you go join the Discord and you'll get spammed with alerts from me this is why we have moderators because they do things that we forget to do yeah no uh yeah they're good and basically the Discord is a fantastic place if you just love PC gaming and you want to come and chat to some like-minded people and to be honest we don't really talk about piecescentric very much it's more just uh sharing your Rigs and just meeting other people that have a passion for uh the same sort of stuff that you do which is which is nice actually it's it's I I'm glad we did the Discord because it's been really nice to build up a little community and it's great for you guys to be joining in this live uh live stream as well so yes thank you very much much appreciated yeah yeah I think like ever since we set up the mods you know those guys have been doing an amazing job helping us to keep things running yeah because we just couldn't do it and we apologized that it took us so long to do it but um as we were discussing Also earlier actually filming a PC build video like from start to finish so from inception on a Monday morning uh gathered around a table with a laptop to having that video published live with a thumbnail on the links it is a lot of work yeah yeah a lot of work takes a good couple days yeah definitely this motherboard is now complete so we'll pop that to one side for a second um but yes thank you to mods for saving our bacon basically and we can then move around and talk about this and I'm going to start very very simply if you don't need a big case don't buy this don't bother it's nothing to do with the quality or the price of this landly product you don't need a big case do not buy one and I'll tell you why because they're big right it sounds a bit ridiculous doesn't it Carl back me up it is big [Laughter] it's so heavy as well oh my God there's no PC in this and this thing is already like just about liftable by one person oh lift it look if you build a PC in this it's so heavy and I know you're gonna do it you're watching this and I I know you're gonna do it you look at it and you go oh there's no one else around I'm gonna pick it up myself you do your backing right you do your backing if you're American I don't know how it works you've got pay money insurance all of that stuff not ideal and bad back oh bad whereas if you're in the UK you have to go make a blooming appointment on a 7 A.M phone call to some receptionist that says sorry there aren't any appointments left and you're like well yeah I don't have a back anymore yeah well sorry you're gonna have to wait till tomorrow ring back tomorrow you don't want this buy a smaller case was that insightful that would that was uh yeah dramatic yeah it's a bit over the top but you know it's fine it's fine it's it's heavy yeah I mean long story short yeah it's very heavy I mean the main problem that we have with um the usual one of this which is the 011 uh Evo not the Evo XL is the weight I mean you know I I just want to stress this point because I know there'll be people watching this especially after the fact that we're seriously considering this case like once it's on your desk it's fine but like seriously it's genuinely not a joke the build gets so heavy and even the regular size Evo was Heavy enough that like for genuine safety reasons uh I've made Carl not use it anymore as the benchmarking read because it was it was was too heavy yeah it was just it's just unnecessary as well isn't it yeah for that purpose it's not uh it's not really optimal but I suppose most people once they build it they set it up and they don't touch it again yeah exactly I should probably show you around this rig sorry rather than just you know a bit so important talk about weight but then most people are going to be like singing all the Praises first it's like oh it's so good that literally have finally listened to people they've updated the Excel version you can create some crazy rigs in this no you need the reality this thing's big big boy uh yeah Excel gives it away but you know it is exactly we have Super Chat Marcus Super Chat thank you Janelle Whitey again yeah back with the super chance that's big wsk wsg means Wall Street Journal maybe no that's Jay oh yeah do you prefer ddr5 or ddr4 ddr5 yeah it's faster and that's that's an easy question uh so we should be showing off the case there you go got mesh on the top if you don't like kit markers why are you building in it no this is the thing I actually so far really like this as we as we've sort of discussed compared to the N7 which is one of the main competitions for this I already I haven't built on it yet so we'll be talking about this throughout the video but I already think it's much much better design case because it's just a better balanced chassis really when it comes to space and what you can do with it the N7 would be fine nv7 sorry because that's the NZXT one isn't it that's very similar as well yeah this motherboard's called the N7 it all gets very confusing isn't it um oh what's going on there we go we got at least one lift I know maybe there's a screw underneath well the point was it was meant to be showing you the side of this panel so you've got plenty of fresh air ventilation on both sides you'll have your power supply in this little chamber here and then here you can fit a 420 mil radiator this is why you'd want to go for the XL version right is if you want to do 420 mil radiators on the side bottom top combination you can also fit two 120 mil fans at the back but then this is why I say it's better than the nv7 when it comes to the initial design is because it looks normal if you just want to have one fan there it's not a problem but then you can fit the two if you want to you know you don't have to have it looking weird like you do with the nv7 where there's clearly two holes so if you don't use two fans it just looks a little bit odd and that's the theme that's sort of carried out throughout the rest of this case which is why I am actually very impressed with this case so far because you've got so many options um I think you you don't necessarily have to use all of them for it to make sense it's pretty cool a pretty cool chassis um right let's get this glass off I think this will lift up it requires one screw if I show you the top oh where are we here look uh you can't see my hand bear with me yeah yeah there we go this screw here just pops off for lunch while I'm doing this Carl can entertain you okay then my turn is it yeah please please It's Gonna Save the year oh don't worry uh whoever got in the chat then let's see what people have been asking some questions I'll see what I can find for you Marcus uh what they've Christopher Smith did a 40 80 13 700k in their fractal torrent he said that was a heavy unit as well yeah and this is I'm pretty sure heavier than the fractal torrent yeah um yeah as I say it's a big boy white man cool nice nice and easy to see but does get dirty yeah that's true fractal torrent I thought was cool and once it's built it's fine but I did not like the cable management on that one bit I really really didn't um so I hope that went better for you than did for me again another two pound donation wsg means what's good ah I see quick tip there Marcus I don't know what's going on with this I think it should just come out but it's not oh there we go yeah there you go side panel easy removal it's very light I don't know I'm not gonna only see this ending bad I know but I can get the balance wait no no yeah not for today apologies um is everything all right with like audio and everything by the way guys um I know it's a little bit late now well it's never too late that's the point I always do everyone said it's fine for them uh but I think Addie is complaining that it's too quiet and everyone's just told him to turn his speakers up okay I mean you can turn it up a notch if you want um please yeah I think I think we're please advise because yeah as long as I don't shout now this is fine because that's one notch up yeah no energy and we should be fine oh no energy wait wait for it uh such a delay just waiting for it to come back through oh they've got little doors here yeah that was very loud that was so we put it back shall we yeah we should be fine yeah all right there we go so whoever it was that wanted me to turn it up you have ruined everything thank you so much thank you for tuning in though do appreciate it uh keep them coming you've got hard drive cages here as well obviously bigger case you can fit more hard drives in here which is going to be useful for people that have very large collections of pictures or music which is surprisingly quite a lot of people I mean one of my close friends he has loads and loads of ram in his system and loads of storage because he makes he gets music and then uses software to base an AI software to basically make the depth of the music even better so there are albums that are just like crazy gigabytes because in the highest but possible format yeah then has like Hi-Fi speakers and goes yeah that sounds a bit better not from not for everyone um but that's a real world use case of something like this but yeah you've got this little door here that you can remove if you want ssds can go on here as well which is nice you tuck them here plenty of room for cable management uh which is nice one of the main features actually of this versus I believe the previous generation correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you could do this um is to actually reverse everything so you could have an inverted build um as well which is cool so the motherboard tray actually comes out and then everything goes around the other side including this bar in this glass so if you have your PC on the other side of your desk you can actually still see inside or if you just want an inverted build because I think it's very Marmite people either love it or hate it do people in the US know what mama is I don't know let us know comments down below is more like the same as Vegemite no no maybe yeah because because that's what Australians have they're Vegemite yeah oh that's not what I expected are there any Australians that can confirm Marmite versus Vegemite Australia no that's awful I'll give up sorry guys I've let it all down but yeah it's very modular case as you can see so you can sort of customize everything um yeah yeah yeah cool but should we get the motherboard in only thing I'll say is we are going to try and use aren't we where's it gone basically long story short it won't affect you but we've got a different motherboard tray as well because I think the review sample I originally received like something was like a melee a plum or something but obviously that's not going to affect any of the final samples or anything but they've sent us another one so you can see this will come out and be reversed which is nice but I don't necessarily know whether I need to do this because we're going to use yeah maybe I should do it anyway so that would make sense this at least will show us how this whole thing is just like is it just those two thumb screws couple of screws yeah let's give it a go let's do it give it a go let's let's do it so if you want to invert this the first step is to remove the motherboard which is just a couple of screws lit and we've got a Super Chat markers uh should I come up with a new jingle do you think uh like yes ladies and gentlemen there's the Super Chat in the chat Super Chat how was that and that that was that was low energy that was low energy pd1347 yep are they correctly would you say a ryzen 5 3 600 and a 3060 TI are a good solid combo yeah I mean it's definitely not the best CPU by today's standards there he goes see it's been removed I mean can we actually notice the difference really we put these two side by side I don't actually know where I was supposed to mention that I'll show that but there we go what is the difference oh which is the new one the top one sure yep 100 yep yeah yeah because you grabbed it from the floor and put it on top well you've got video evidence you can rewind look there we go okay so we're sure top one this is the old one yeah basically we can't tell the difference visually I think it's just I mean whoa what look at that that's a lot look at all the holes it's like I've never seen anything like it in my life I mean that is the sort of thing you know there people have a phobia of holes yeah maybe stay away from this that that that is kind of scary um that's yeah that's quite something but obviously you can move everything around you see which is quite quite cool it's all about the modularity with this if you've got extra space then you can use it how you want so we do appreciate that from Liam Lee and uh Liam Lee are just one of those manufacturers where everything really they make is generally speaking fantastic yes you do have to pay a premium for it um the land call three I think was a bit too expensive but then everything else I've been really really impressed with really really impressed with um what's the one we absolutely love Lancel 216. this is a good case that is a fantastic case really really good case right so this is back in business all of those scary holes have been removed they actually that has freaked me out that's going to give me nightmares is it Trypophobia oh is that it I don't know you've got two more Super chats by the way so uh two more two more line up your Jingles ladies and gentlemen we have two more Super chats super chats thank you very much rescue reels for the five dollar Super Chat Marcus have you had any issues with DDR Farm have you had Ram issues with ddr5 ram on Intel builds apparently they bricked their new PC after a ram upgrade uh I haven't had any Ram issues but I know that um at the moment if you go for ddr5 and you have four RAM sticks on Intel you can run into issues at high speeds I am aware that that is a bit of an issue also I want to point out as well I realized I didn't run this by you before going but um any I'm not saying we need donations so please don't feel like there's any pressure to donate last thing we want but if there are any donations in this video um I'll be making sure Carl does receive half of all the donations we received during the live stream thank you because I don't know why you haven't been before so I'm sorry about that he gives up his time well he doesn't he's paid for the time but he's still technically kind of gives up his evening even if he gets the hours back and lasers I get dinner tonight everybody yeah yeah he's getting dinner he also very interesting which is if my sister cooked some food but it's done here um and he gets food poisoning whose fault is it we don't know that's one for a solicitor to answer isn't it is there any solicitors in the chat yeah yeah that's the one right um motherboard tree I believe is back back in Action Marcus are you over six foot tall I'm just curious no sorry sorry tauren just down there I'm afraid me me too I'm just over six foot you're slightly shorter than me aren't you I'm like five foot eight oh is that in that screw in maybe I don't know right anyway sorry we're taking too long now right let's get this motherboard in and uh we'll be ready to go there's a screw that's come out from somewhere uh is that the top that's the top that might be the top yeah do we need the back plate for the motherboard for the cooler um yes that looks awkward to get to yeah because you could take the whole tray out again yeah let's not do that okay so yeah Carl is thinking on his feet this time which is good this is why he's here this is why he gets paid half of the uh the donations uh so we're going to install the cooler here today every time by the way I do these live streams I always think right let's let's be focused as possible let's let's go through it let's make this like straight to the point it is now on Impossible yeah but then those things happen and you know Vegemite comes up and wind doesn't veggie might come out you know and I I am incredibly fun at passes um because of my chat it's true I am super chat so yeah just saying uh anyway cooler we're doing we're going for NZXT sort of theme here um so we're going for the Kraken Elite 360 RGB this one is pretty new actually isn't it I think we've used it once before um yeah I realized earlier completely off topic uh the screws for the mesh room d some of those screws were from the fractal cooler let's remember later okay don't worry about it it's fine that's a problem that's a future problem but that's how my brain works we were taking apart gaming PCs today people always ask what happens to the PCS once you've built them and uh Carl can Testify the fact that pretty much nine times out of ten they will be immediately deconstructed and the parts go back in their box I wouldn't say that I wouldn't say immediately promptly I don't know they at some point go back uh on the shelves and then we reuse them until the end of life um and then that's a future markers problem basically so yeah we go uh go from there so yeah we're getting our call out of our box and we're going to fit the back plate onto the motherboards and we're also going for white cables later as well which I know you guys are going to enjoy right so what have we got on offer here is the board a cool looking wait a few minutes um but we need a back plate because I think last time I used this it was for AMD but here's our little back plate look there it is there we go on might yeah no carry on yeah yeah oh you look like there was something to announce no that goes on look flip it around I don't think I've missed anything I can go back and check and uh you go in there like that then it's just a case of grabbing oh I did this in Super Chat I'm sorry I'm sorry that wasn't a good jingle assistant they've just got their PC they used ddr4m they use ddr4 memory and now they feel like they kind of messed up I mean honestly the money you'll lose when you come to sell your ddr4 to upgrade to ddr5 is just going to be one back by the fact that uh the tdr5 would come down in price even more so honestly don't worry about it um you know not really a problem the performance difference isn't huge um you know and if you if you're on Intel there are rumors to be uh refreshed actually for the new CPUs but a new CPUs on the platform as well which would be interesting if that proves true because I didn't think there was going to be any extra like CPUs no they were talking about computex wouldn't they back in June well yeah that's what we we yeah or it was strongly suggested all over the the news sites anyway I've seen some apparent benchmark scores you know telling different numbers the thing is like you could just make up those numbers that you know you never really know what to believe but I always say there's no smoke without fire so if there is something coming probably uh yeah it probably isn't going to be too long to hear about it um that's a good question Marcus yeah notify Hollow Jr asked how can you tell if a backplate on the motherboard is needed uh generally swing Intel uh has a back plate and the motherboards will have empty holes here uh what one are we on sorry yes uh the motherboard will have empty holes here whereas if it's AMD you have do I have a spare board not a hand but they've got the little hooks like the little like plastic hook things on and quite often you hook your CPU cool on top of that but with am5 you can't actually use a back plate anymore um it's physically attached to the motherboard so you technically can remove it but for cooling purposes no you wouldn't ever remove it so yeah you use a back plate if you're on Intel basically and if you're on new am5 you would not yeah I do kind of like the new the the new AMD way of doing it I think it just especially when you go to take off the CPU Cooler on an Intel one and you just hear that noise as the back plate falls out it's always a bit kind of sad yeah yeah yeah and you have to have a box to do it on or yeah yeah or case bit because there's always that Gap if you take it off when it's in the case you're like oh no I'm just going to double check I've used the right screws by the way because uh the smaller ones um are 1700 and the slightly longer ones are for the older generation of like 115x motherboards so like here 11th gen 10th gen Intel the 11 LGA 11 50 and 51. yeah like I keep changing the socket all the time which is pretty annoying but there we go we have a super chat from Joseph Huckins yep I'm correct so I'm correct boys and ladies uh that's a bad habit apologize uh Intel socket 1700 has the little hole in you're interrupted to Super Chat Marcus oh do you want to do the jingle I forgot my jingle was no it's whatever you want there is no official jingle we have a super chat from Joseph Hawkins there's only a high quality production on this channel yeah yeah you get like pop-ups and Banners and noises with other people we get you get the raw experience yeah and I'd say most people want that you know um it's all very well uh going in for high brow but that's not what uh people appreciate do they so yeah right we're going to grab a case and we're gonna lay it down flat I'll quickly say Joseph said he loves the build that you're doing he built in the same system but his i7 died replaced it oh yeah I mean he said it took six two weeks to do so though but yeah yeah yeah bit of a bummer I mean I've got some massively important news uh I managed to get through to my car insurance to renew it yeah right and I got through in about a minute and a half on the phone well if that when has this ever happened before this is uh mighty impressive um and that is the sole reason I think I'm still with my insurer is because uh so this is probably incredibly boring basically I I assume it's the same in the States but everywhere now is just trying to like move away from phone customer service oh it's one of these friggin things again isn't it oh NZXT they've taken the middle standoff no they haven't been I'd uh I don't know I don't know what's going on there it should just pop in I shouldn't that so what's that all about it no no no I don't really understand it should be there and it is there is definitely a hole for it here it's not going crazy no I'm just going to take it out because frankly it doesn't matter for me uh Appliance please I'll get it I'll get him you stay so I'm staying sat down we've got a new super chat from empfg uh I can't find oh it's here oh got it yeah they're not pliers yeah these are the ones you want what are these then I did that oh maybe they are yeah Savage empfg said they love watching your videos really close to buying more PC components to build their first PC yeah thanks for making me a PC nerd loving it every day fantastic well that is literally what the point of this channel is meant to be is to help people get into PC gaming there are going to be channels that we've taken things frankly a lot more seriously when it comes to uh giving you the most ridiculously hardcore data we care about people that are like yeah I like PC gaming I like the idea of it let's get into it all the way up to people that are like yeah I want a new gaming PC what do I need that's the point of this channel we don't want you wasting your money on stuff that you don't need uh what is going on here brute force it no I don't understand what's gonna the standoffs don't line up or do they no they do line up I've been sick we're good no we're lined up we're okay that's why we've got the overhead camera so everybody can see everyone can see what I'm doing and see my turmoil we have another Super Chat from Atomic for one Euro thank you Tommy that's two of them two double thank you I think it's just moving around because you know I've taken that middle standoff out oh here we go um they didn't put the question within the super chat but they've done it afterwards they said nice build good luck with it but one question do we get to see benchmarkers bent what today yeah no we don't get to see any benchmarks today unfortunately oh benchmarks I thought it was Bench Marcus it all comes down to time and how long it takes if it takes three hours to get the graphics card in probably it won't take that long we're good we've been here before people oh uh screws screws are not in the hard drive cage they came separately they're right next to me aren't they they put them in a convenient place oh we have another Super Chat from another Super Chat Nikki J actress for one pound so many super chats this is ridiculous you know why it's because they want you to be fairly compensated Carl doesn't actually get paid on this channel um super chats yeah no well today's the first day oh yeah you've been quite working here for the experience closure isn't it would you know what internship that's the one isn't it isn't that where you work oh yeah but no that's legitimate but I'm more referring to when uh people say oh we can't pay you but it'll be great exposure for you yeah so yeah that is obviously a joke uh Carl uh pays his taxes from the money that I pay him because we we did it by the book he's got an employment contract and everything I do yeah there we go um oh that's the only thing I don't like about this motherboard those it's very hard to screw in oh God it's all over uh and that's all right it looks great but it is a bit fiddly to work with yeah I'm sorry you guys can't see there you go it's all about me it's not about you definitely not so yeah we're just screwing the motherboard in at the moment so yeah but yeah I hope everyone's had a nice day so far as well um it's been a bit of a weird one because obviously the weather's starting to turn isn't it which is a little bit sad um I personally am quite enjoying a little bit of cool attempts but I know that's probably not to everybody's uh or liking right that one is a problem I was saying the other day I feel like we're ready now for winter no I'm not autumn no no awesome we have a five pound super chat from rev Star saying Carl gets to eat today he was given lunch actually he was giving a fish finger sandwich which he was very excited about I was thank you riftstar oh honestly right I've changed my mind uh I know I've just got another two Euros from Atomic come on let's give him the money that he deserves oh there you go he does get paid I don't know can't say that that is misleading ASA would be honest like a like a why is it a fly on poop something like that no I do I do get paid I'm not he's not just abusing me just just yeah I wouldn't pay me for it as well yeah I mean that's probably not the week to be talking about that so let's press swiftly on if you haven't been reading the news uh yeah there's some news out there at the moment and that's all we're all we're going there uh yeah so we screwed in the motherboard and motherboard screwed in yeah and he's always topical I can't remember what we were talking about last time there's always something I mean to be fair it's actually the last few uh times it's been about new graphics cards and there has been a new graphics card since we did our last live stream actually didn't yeah uh the 7700 XT and the 7800 XT 7800 XT I think and we have the data to back it up do we not uh is probably our favorite card of the generation so far it's it's the least bad okay I mean I I prefer the way I put it but uh you probably aren't wrong it's the it's almost like the only card that has any like decent priced performance it's just again the name names just to be odd because it's not a straight replacement for the card it replaces because the performance is the same it's just that definitely yeah that's the problem it's basically yeah 6800 XT there will be people that will upgrade to that card and we'll have you know from the 6800 XT and they will be like what wait a second yeah they've been getting exactly the same performance um this is bad look we've got an upside down screw here it's just there I think it's a combination of the fact that these screws aren't magnetic really either so it's just all around the sad times if I'm honest so who was it that said this build was going to go perfectly no one perfectly yeah I mean it's not exactly gone badly yet has it not yet it's just a screw that's loose I mean I have a screw loose in every video I do to be fit this could go worse and briefstar just said in the chat have you seen Rog Matrix 4090 Platinum can I just point out you were looking at the screen you had no idea what I just did no go and look at the stream quickly the screen is still not come out I missed all of that I missed all of that I was looking up a graphics card and then and then I got distracted but no that graphics card does look cool though oh it's a 360 all-in-one liquid cooler on the back of a 4090. I imagine it would be very expensive right I'm not going to bother with that screw because this is in Show Business I'm rock and roll I'm modern 2023 rock and roll which is to say not rock and roll on the slightest um my idea of rock and roll is not putting a screw two screws two screws missing from this middle one on that one oh well done yeah see no one will know it's still still got rigidity it's all good I'm surprised you the way to put the screws in um yeah so if I built as many PCs as you do I'd put like two screws in and be like yeah that'd do well when we're doing all the CPU testing as well we're working on what CPUs to do it was like do we really have to test the X's versus the long x's and it's like yes we do I know we know that the X's aren't worth the extra money but we need to be able to prove it and we have proved it video to come get subscribed if you're not really subscribed by the way whoa you know it's easy look you go here's your hand you go done easy I've helped you out you will uh you'll thank me later okay so while motherboard's in and this is why I say I prefer this to the nv7 because you've got an equal amount of space give or take at the bottom and at the top so if you want to do double Stacks fans on the radiators then you should better fit them in no problem you've got loads of room here there's plenty of thickness as well don't forget Lynley also have loads of Hardline liquid cooling things like in collaboration with companies like EK and things so if you wanted to have like a really nice looking um pump res or something like that here you've actually got the space to bring It Forward have the pump like a D5 or something sticking out the back and then that can almost be in line with this um or you have like a display or something here and then you can have some beautiful builds this is when this thing makes sense it's for creating like a showpiece and I think the main difference really um but well not the main difference but almost like the most obvious difference is you can do 140 140 140 rather than most cases It's 121 2120 which if you're going for the quietest possible rig obviously it makes more sense I feel like you've got something to say uh yeah we just heard a Super Chat that was actually a complete coincidence I turned around and it happened we have a super okay we now now we have two two one from a trail twenty dollars 20 USD for you for two days that's two lunches that's unbelievable it's been a long time fan which many how-to vids on building a PC and thanks to your video three years ago I bought my parts and bought my first high-end gaming PC absolutely perfect keep up the amazing work cheers with two two clinking beer mugs oh that's fantastic thank you so much we have another one from short search for five pounds short circuit short circuit not the the short circuit I imagine not no but it's spelled the same check your top markers if you're doing push-pull with fans on top check was that check your space at the Top If you're doing push pull we're not doing push pull we're okay yeah but we can show that to you but I mean frankly if you if this case doesn't work with push pull I suppose there's something very wrong with it I think if you can't do push pull if you put the GPU on the side prob well it depends how big your GPU is I suppose I mean forget about the cables so if you put like a a tiny little baby GPU in yeah so oh there you go uh yeah yeah they do fit yeah absolutely it just makes it more Awkward for plugging cables in oh that that's fine I mean there's loads of cases you can still see it yeah loads and loads of cases that have less clearance just for normal radiators so that's down the bottom and then if you uh up at the bottom that's at the top and if you're going to do the bottom yeah then you can see you've got loads of room there as well no issues at all and finally if you want to do push pull on the sword because chaos chaos you're going to do push pull at the silent loads and loads of them there as well so in fact you could do push pull on the side and almost yeah and push pull on the side and put like a pump res on top of it as well like if you're going to use some cool mounting systems so I I think you'd struggle to find a lot of PC components that don't fit in this but I'm sure there will be some over to you come on I was just about to replace somebody in the chat so I might as well do it now uh AVG God has asked 7950x 3D or 3900k the first person shooter games I mean actually I'm going to hand this one over to the one the only bench Carl I was going to say riftstar's already done done it for me he just said just get the x3d instead okay I mean what do you think about the 3900k though because we discovered that was definitely better than we maybe originally would have suspected right yeah I think it deserves more praise than maybe it gets yeah it I think it's just when you pick when you get either the same or more performance with the x3d yeah for you know less than half the power usage I think it's like nearly 300 watts compared to 120 you can have a better cooler or you don't have to have such a good cooler either yeah and then it doesn't get as hot uses less power it's just and it's less money you know it's 380 versus nearly five six hundred pounds yeah yeah it's just very difficult to recommend which is why the i7 which other than if you're going to use the extra chords let's not forget that the main advantage that the I9 has is its multi-threaded performance it's far superior right yeah obviously if they're just for like they said for gaming mostly first person which is what most of us do right yeah um so I would rather have an I9 I don't know I guess I would rather have an I9 for my personal system because I'd use it for work as well and it would make sense yeah but if you weren't doing any video production which let's be honest you know 99 of Gamers don't yeah then it makes more sense but there are plenty of people out there that would be better off with a nine nine um than the ryzen but those people are going to be taking advantage of the extra cores that's that's the long and short of it right yeah yeah you know a lot of when you get say around that 300 sort of dollar Mark 300 pound Mark you know you 7700 X is you have x3ds and i7 3700 yeah they're all very close to each other it obviously just depends on what else you want to do with it I mean if you're going to do a tier list where would you put the 7800 X 3D you've got s is the best s t you'd put that s t yeah um that's interesting because I would I don't know I guess that's probably s tier but then surely this 7700 non-x has got to be not far behind because that's far better value but then still has the longevity in the eight cores are we not such a fan of that one I think I think the price has affect because it's about 300 it's only 70 pounds more now for the x3d right and I think if you if gaming is your priority I think there's still like 20 what my maths about 23 more money though so do you get 23 more performance in some games you can what more than really yeah okay there you gosh I think like a random off top of my head I think like return or was like 200 FPS or something and then like 250 nearly with the x3d but of course ATP obviously with a 49 yeah so yeah exactly I was going to say it also depends obviously on the GPU that you're buying it for yeah because you don't want to make the mistake of buying the best possible CPU and then getting a GPU that you know doesn't need it for it's just we actually have a bit of a problem now don't we with things like Call of Duty Warzone because that game is so heavily CPU dependent that even mid-tier gpus can benefit um from sort of having a even better CPU than there are other games where you know it's irrelevant yeah like something like Apex Legends I'm not saying you don't need a good CPU but if you're buying a modern GPU it's not going to make much difference not real world performance anyway yeah with modern CPU to back it up as well this is going to be double me it's double me you in one angle that's the one we've had a two pound super super tax oh no it's all over there two pound super chat from schmoo 75. thank you for watching Subaru chat foreign yeah that was all right wasn't it yeah not my best jingle but yeah yeah and I think that obviously then you also have the 7950x 3D which is also that's sort of I don't like it though as we've discussed before I do not like that because it's too fiddly I think Intel's implementation of uh extra cores uh or like the mix of efficiency cores yeah and performance cause their secret sauce however they've done it with like thread director and stuff might sound like marketing but it really does work really well in the background you know it's not going to be perfect but compared to amd's provisioning service um I've just not had good experiences with that I'm not you know I know you can get it to work but in order to get best performance you need to shut off or you need to shut off the cause basically yeah and it's just it's a bit you know not not ideal um it doesn't work as seamlessly as possible so frankly I would either get the 7900 like 9x non 3D or I would just get the 7800 X 3D yeah if it was me yeah I think with like the Intel CPUs they seem to have a little bit more depending on what obviously the video If you do care about like the video side of things use in using the integrated GPU for that extra encoder does help even though the new ryzen ones do have one but nothing can actually seem to utilize it yet in the same way yeah you like in your DaVinci Resolve or Premiere Pro they can make use of it what quick sync yeah yeah yeah what time does one I think it has a name I don't think it it's not been like I've not seen anywhere mention it I've looked on like Puget systems and stuff and they've not really spoken about it interesting right um that took ages as we've said look I don't mean it in this particular instance I'm not annoyed at all but I know you guys want to hear it I hate radiators uh this is why one of the reasons I hate radiators because they're just faff and especially if you're like doing one like this where you've got three fans you don't have to Cable manage it all and uh it's just a pain in the back on it just buy Corsair Q Yeah by corsair's really expensive stuff like I'm not poo pooing it because it is fantastic and it probably is my favorite but would I buy one for my personal rig if I was paying for it uh probably not I would honestly as we discussed earlier today I would probably go for uh something like from Deep cool because they look good and they have decent performance and they're like a third of the price I'm personally not that fussed about having the display and things that we have on this one in my personal rig but as I say it's me if you're going for a high-end rig and you want that fair enough I've got a friend that is building a rig just like this and uh yeah he he was a proper requirement of his but he has an LCD screen on his that's what he wants it's there's no right or wrong answer everybody's different so when we're doing these videos always feel free to sort of mix and match the components this should always be about getting the right sort of inspiration really uh for your rig rather than something that sets set in stone right let's pull these through I mean does that make sense do you think Carl when I say about my you know in some videos I'll be using the Corsair stuff sort of like singing its praise um at that price point but then in other videos I'll be saying it's too expensive do you think that that makes sense why yeah you think it's like did I say it's like a tool if you know what I mean it's like it's all well and good saying oh look you could have the absolute best you know drill or saw in the world yeah five thousand pounds and you know your 200 pound sword does the same job for what you need it to do then it's like yeah what why pay more yeah like just because something's objectively better it doesn't make it the better purchase basically yeah it's all about price to Performance like you could buy linuses screwdriver or you could go to B and Q and get the one I have here which was like six quid I'm sure Linus is one is probably better but that doesn't mean it's the right choice for everybody good we haven't done a stream since the whole line is controversy have we it's been been ages we've been it's been a while I was traveling I was in Malaysia for a bit for work uh video about that is to come and then um yeah when on holiday so I've been out of the leap for a while yeah he's he's back now with the more streamlined uploading schedule it was yeah I mean it was clearly a lot of work wasn't it yeah like if if we can appreciate that making videos it's hard doing that their level is yeah like that 30 40 videos a week whatever it was was you know that's you know that's so many yeah it's it's big I mean you know we we watch and we enjoy Linus around here so ultimately uh we always wish them the best successes really they've uh I I always think that they've almost normalized having adverts and videos and people understand that actually you know these people in order to make the content need the revenue to make the content and to make the business work and uh he took and absorbed a lot of the initial backlash over the ads so the rest of us could actually uh do it without basically so I do think we owe them a lot but then again he's also someone that has a ridiculous amount of resources and it can be difficult to compete but we do our best don't we yeah yeah yeah we still enjoy what we do so not we don't complain about it we get on with it yeah I mean there's always holes I think the the I've always said the bigger you get the less relatable you get so there's always plenty of space for everybody because uh Linus no one is ever going to think Linus is just a humble PC Gamer ever again because he's not and that's okay yeah you know I I think we're probably a little bit beyond that as well to be honest um I'd say less so but yeah you know it's it's all relative yeah yeah it's all relative are you like just a humble PC Gamer Carl I I guess so I'd actually do that much PC gaming you do RuneScape gaming don't you I I I've quit RuneScape again or I've taken a long break again taking a break taking a break you never quit just taking a break how long is the break Gonna Last this time I don't know it's been it's been over a month so far interesting as much as I like RuneScape I can't be trusted which is you just can't be trusted it's true though I honestly I can't yeah I think having mobile as well just makes it even harder to get away from it because you just open up your phone and it's like oh look I got five minutes I can get some trees how uh how how much of your time did you spend thinking about what you're going to do in RuneScape when you weren't playing RuneScape uh not a lot that was the problem I had when I was playing it in school when you do play RuneScape you spend a lot of time looking good especially if you do like the Iron Man and it's like okay I need to do this before I can do this so looking at all the uh guides that's it yeah you look up the quest guide then you look at the requirements then you look at what you need and then you think maybe I won't do that yet oh I've just realized this case had a forgiven quick remove bracket thing yeah you could have done it I could have done that on the floor frankly this has been okay though um ironically the case is so big that it's almost made it easier in a way because the screws are so close and I can probably see what I'm doing right we didn't yeah we're in cool right so that is the cooler in place and then it will just drop on to our CPU like so you have the I should show you this way uh you have a little um what do you call it all your cables plug in at the top and screws on but obviously you do need to add some thermal paste if you're reusing it like we are because otherwise uh you'll have problems I did test it once actually what happens if you don't use thermal paste your CPU Cooks so I don't so just just don't do it yeah um what am I doing thermal paste thermal paste oh it is honestly it's fantastic to be back though I I love taking a break because it is absolutely necessary I'm sure it is in any job but then you come back and especially when it's like September sort of time and it's about to be Game season and as we're about to be launch season and there's so much cool PC gaming stuff going on it is a very exciting time and uh yeah I enjoy I I I genuinely really enjoy a little brainstorm with you as well Carl I I think that's becoming a bit of a highlight when we actually uh map out what we're going to do yeah because yeah we need to do that again soon don't we we do well we'll get through the backlog for yeah probably but yeah oops nasty Yoda said I thought you hate radiators why are you using I hate radiators when they don't work um or they aren't easy to install but this is a big case so there's no well so far there's been no issues with like ease of access so yeah I I I would prefer to use like a i one a radiator that has the ease of installation um of a air cooler uh Cole has some moaning for you to do by the way or has some moaning because he he's made a realization earlier today didn't you Carl about what radiators which part uh the radiators that have the fans screwed on by default oh yeah yeah that was there oh yeah yeah I think it was the newly and Lee one I think yeah you've used the 240 or the 280 and then I used the 360 with on my uh test bench PC yeah and both times we've used it we had to take the fans off yes because we wanted the orientation the other way around the other way around there's this like ah now I have to take out 12 screws I did I didn't think I had to yes so it's actually double the effort because not only do you need to install the fans like you did before but then you have to take them off and then install the fans which is a little bit annoying so you're kind of like 50 50 D on whether it's going to benefit you depending on the direction of airflow you want yeah so I I mean what is the default surely it's blowing into the radiators the default I suppose you can't because I wanted because you don't I might have put it in wrong for you yeah for for because it was on the test bench it would have to it had to be the opposite way around so I had to have radiator first so you could screw in and then I had so basically what you've got now but the opposite way around yes okay so if you're doing a bit more in this case right now in that position it would work fine okay but if you put in a front mounted radiator probably not no yeah yeah yeah okay unless you have the tubes at the bottom we're now going to plug in our AI a i o pump here we go people keep asking about this RTX 492 Matrix card from A2 I've never even heard of it uh did they announce it at Gamescom Maybe maybe we don't have one I can say that much we've not been sent one it looks I don't know if it's not gonna do anything new it's just going to be cold you know GPU is already cold enough yeah they are 40 90s especially because um assuming the rumors are all true essentially what happened is uh that they we're going to go for a 600 watt GPU or at some point there's going to be a 600 watt GPU um and the call is all designed for 600 watts and then they limited it to 450 and real world is more like 420 so they all run way cooler than they need to because um the car doesn't use much power so then if your Asus or gigabyte or whatever you're like don't buy this entry level card that works perfectly and is basically silent buy our better one with better profit margins on because numbers more money yes exactly but I I actually feel sorry for um all of nvidia's vendors because I do think it's probably been a bit difficult for them recently with profit margins and things and I know some people might think why are you busy like defending the corporations that already make loads of money well don't forget EVGA quit so it's not all like big vendors and things um there's just probably not going to be much margin in there because it's a bit of a weird one where the price is almost set by Nvidia right RRP and I don't know how well enforced it is but assuming it was being enforced it's a bit weird because then there's not that much freedom on how much they can actually uh you know change the pricing of their cards so yeah I don't know it's just a bit more I think they've sort of have that minimum price I guess which they can't really go below well I'm sure for legal reasons they probably can't you know can't certain minimum price but they can maybe like well they have that I guess the RRP which they can't really yeah is I don't know I don't I don't know enough about how these things work but I know you can't say You must not sell this for under this bloody bloody blah but I'm sure you can probably uh sweetly talk and suggest but also don't forget as well the point is they don't it it I don't know I don't have a clue about the exact numbers right but let's to use an example let's say I sold you all of the ingredients to make an apple crumble right for one pound it then costs you 40p okay to use your Machinery use your oven use your mixer uh to then make the apple crumble okay so you're up to one pound 14 cost you've got the labor on top of that I don't know how much it costs for someone to make an apple crumble it's a machine you're making them in bulk I don't know let's say 20p no idea so you're one pound 60 through apple crumble right what if you're then told you can only sell that apple crumble for two pounds so I want to make more than 40p profit well I guess you could put oats on the top uh you could do a little bit of Browning with a torch you know and you can upsell it so you've got your two pan apple crumble but then you've got your your finest apple crumble for two pound fifty basically the same slightly different that's actually what's going to go on right yeah you you thought he's got a weird announcement I was I was wondering I was concentrating though I was like where is this going uh but yeah I think that's actually quite a good idea that's my understanding of how it works uh for legal reasons if that's not how it works that is speculation and speculation alone but yeah that's a a rough now that you you're done with your uh pastry Centric where's the pastry apple crumble yeah I thought I thought it was quite good but yeah paste what was the joke they just called you pastry Centric yeah I'd go with no what is a crumble I don't it's not paste right you said it was an apple pie no it's a crumble oh it's always crumble biscuit isn't it baking eccentric cookie Centric I don't know dessert Centric anyway we have a one pound super chat from Trev Chef thank you so much for the Subaru chat Trev there's so many people have done their first Super Chat and it's giving you a little flag oh there you go so this is Google being clever they're like hmm how can we extract more money from our customers that are watching these five Centric no because no it's no it's not a pie it's apple crumble do you guys in the US do not have apple crumble this would blow my mind this would be very upsetting fake Marcus no no sorry no these names aren't working people you're gonna have to do better than that uh right let me show you around this other side someone said he is just pasty just pasty yeah thank you I'm I'm not pasty look at this hand he's tan now look at the difference right the cases before yeah rude rude unbelievable I get nothing but abuse something about abuse right so this is the side um we've got I just realized there's so many cables that go underneath the case for the front i o is that what is that they look right underneath the bottom of the case three oh yeah there's loads three well yeah you've got the you've got four USB 3 ports on this and you've got USBC which you were very impressed that is a lot of use I'd love that on my case so I only have three USB ports on the front of mine um so we've got our cables rather weirdly this one is black and these are white you'd think they'd be the same so this is for the pump head this is for the fans but it's all all one unit so yeah so boo NZXT I don't know if it's boo Enzo so it's just I don't know it's a bit odd I maybe they're thinking that most motherboards are black and the pcbs are black so actually the black cable is easier to hide so maybe it's a good thing to know what do you guys reckon is that good you see what I mean fan cables white black for the um oh it's called cobbler in America is that what it is I've heard of a peach cobbler yeah apple Tabler I know that's not no it is not apple cobbler get out of here that's and I'm sure the Americans now are like cobbler what on Earth is a cobbler sorry cup cobbler well no there is a coupler yeah no you can get old-fashioned apple cobbler why does that sound sound like wrong why does it sound odd when you say it in English what is this well you learn something new every day don't you uh yeah that is genuinely fascinating that's one of the most interesting things I've learned today um I got laughed at yesterday by uh fear my fiance and her sister uh because I had a spelling mistake and um long story short we had a video of our dog um well not my dog long story short dog sort of ran around the front of our sort of driveway but rather than just going straight down the middle it like ran ran in an arc and I said oh um you know he had a very wide birth there didn't he but I wrote this down so I wrote it down as wide birth as in childbirth and they thought it was hilarious oh yeah take the mick out the person that can't spell that's bullying and I will not have it in this workplace yeah oh yeah I think I watched a video the other day of um somebody eating food in America and they call is it basically scones they're calling biscuits don't they yeah but they don't have sugar in they're like no I don't know I mean it's just so so strange TNT and scones is just the best thing ever you know so a bit of jam bit of clotted cream clotted cream clotted cream uh what's going on here where do I plug all of the RGB in do we know that would do it we've got we have a new super chat from Kevin Manning so it's it's super a Chad from Kevin Manning thank you Kevin after watching Kevin for a while and saving for the last year I finally put together my first PC at the weekend I don't know why I cannot get it to work but keep up the great work we do have a video Kevin um yes it's one of our very popular videos actually yeah why my PC doesn't work how to yeah how to troubleshoot a PC that won't turn on basically I go through absolutely everything I can think of and I think it saved a lot of people's bacon so once you're done watching this stream or if you want to dip in and out um go watch that video and then come back and let us know whether it's helped um because we go through everything that's probably one of my favorite videos because I know that is actually going to help people out which is good that's why we're here yeah have a look at that video Kevin that maybe it might be able to help you out maybe you've maybe you're plugged in something wrong or you know you've got the you've not got the right things hopefully uh it can be as simple as just like a cable plugged into the wrong place you know like a display cable yeah or something I didn't mention in that video but it does affect us is if you're if you if your monitor is on the wrong input and then you change your input once you've turned your PC on so let's say you plug in a DisplayPort cable uh you turn your PC on and it's connected to your monitor via HDMI and you change your monitor from DisplayPort to HDMI after your PC is turned on for the first boot it won't do a display because I don't think it's got like the graphics driver or something about it it doesn't it only outputs on One display so it's actually outputting still to like a display port but you've got it plugged in via HDMI so the solution there is just to turn the PC off and on again but to be fair you've probably done that already yeah I've had an issue the other day when I was benchmarking every time I would change the CPU magnetic well done ncdx too every time I would change the CPU and benchmarking and then with the AMD one it would turn off obviously and turn back on without the memory training I was like yep that's fine yeah but then when it loads up into Windows nothing appears on the display unplug the HDMI plug it back in again and it's there it's like okay I could see the error code I knew that it was it had posted I was just like oh okay it's just unplugged that and then it works just a bit I don't know if it's a monitor issue or the I I don't know I don't know what that issue is or a Windows issue Maybe oh yeah that's a good idea yeah Kevin Manning joined the Discord there's plenty of people in there that can um help you with the species as well spot your the assist right what else have we got to be plugged in here we've got is that sassa why did we hey we've got a weird one got a weird one why is there a SATA cable here is it are they like hot like those hard drives yeah hot swappable Drive Bays is that what that is and then up there they go to the drives yeah they go up to the top as well hmm I don't know if they're hot yeah but they might just be well yeah so if you want to put your hard drive in the cable's all pre-rooted for you you literally just slide them in yeah and I want to point out as well I mean right let's actually play a game this is live when I play this in the video I know people are going to cheat and I say before I say how much this case is don't cheat and look it up in GBP Great British pounds how much do you think this case costs and I'll give you a clue I think it's reasonable for what you're getting so how much do you think this case was how much was the end of seven to do a poll how much was the nv7 by the way I feel like that was 300 quid wasn't it could be wrong you might need to check my maths there before uh it is 198 189 well the nv7 yep oh all right I'm wrong forget that all right and the NZXT similar one which is like the H9 flow yeah that's 169. okay all right so yeah maybe I'm wrong all right I still stand by it though this case is reasonable you compare it to something like course says uh 1000d or there was the big one that the other big one they have 8 000 D is it is it not five thousand no the big big one I think it's 8 000. we've got some prices coming in 250 200 230 190. someone said 110 I think you'd be uh yeah no we should think in there 200 I think yeah around the 200 price point well yeah I mean at the moment launch price I'm saying this for 240 quid which was such a big case with all of these features I actually think it's reasonable the catch is that you don't get any fans so you do have to add your own fans but I say this in every video I'd argue if you're spending this much money on a case you're not going to use the case uh stock case fans anyway so don't bother including them yeah it's my uh two cents on that yeah you know if they included like some Al fans in it as standard or something you'd be like okay then but if they're just like the basic stock yeah if they included Al fans not everyone would want them or need them and then you'd end up paying 300 quid maybe 320 quid for the case yeah so the only way around that is to do what Corsair do but then you kind of need your own website for that for Logistics reasons is to have a version with the fans available at slight discount and for people that do want to go that way and they sell it themselves yeah I think it'd be a good idea to have two options though oh absolutely if you think you had the one with the fans for maybe 250 or whatever and the one without fan for 200 then you'd be like Oh I'm saving money by getting the ones with the fans it's just Logistics though it costs them too much money with um shipping different skus yeah because obviously cases are so big and heavy um this is why there are a lot of companies only sell black or white cases they don't do like fancy fancy colors and things um it is SWAT there it is because um it's just too much money to have different excuse oh we have a super chat I said oh chat no one nearly killed hold on this is bad apologies guys I am really sorry we would cut that out of the video normally yeah I can see it on the screen it's about to happen on the screen oh no it's like deja vu it's happening again uh justice Cooper asked 7800 X 3D and 6950 XT uh so I was thinking about the burp sorry start again ruined it for you 7800 X 3D 6950 XT 1440p gaming Overkill or not 6950 XT yeah uh I mean yeah but Overkill was fine because that card has come down and priced quite a lot uh how much are they now people go on about them a lot well I mean 1440p I'd always say like if you're talking 1440p ultrawide there's quite a big difference there but actual bog standard 2560 by 1440 is not that difficult to drive by today's standards really it's only five six nine what is just 69.50 XT yeah gone down that's like I mean it is more than two Euro card no doesn't it like semi-new because it's the 50 version the 6900 or maybe but there's still not a massive difference though is there but there's still quite a big jump over the 6800 XT which is then a big jump over the 7800 XT so you're impressed by that then I am that's that's I'm not saying you shouldn't be I'm just asking you're gonna remember bench Carl is is the big big cheese now you see the cheese yeah I know the numbers it's basically just so when Gamer's Nexus has a go I can say it wasn't me yeah yeah that's the idea yeah it seemed to happen after that the uh that recent video so uh wait a second yeah I mean I don't actually oh I don't know how many USB I have a feeling this motherboard only has one USB 3 header on it oh dear so only two of the ports are gonna work but then there aren't actually that many motherboards that do have two USB headers on so there you go you will need a yeah at least let's say a difference motherboard to get the most out of this for a USB 2 to USB 3 adapter oh look this folds out so you can put your drives in oh that's good that folds out it's on like a hinge see I I this is cool everything about the fantex one the end result I know can look nice and it has flexibility but this is to the smart I like how you put the fan Hub there and there's that there you go I was like so there's so much room back there I know it's roomy boy in here and we do have the world's largest power supplier to go in there though well it's definitely not the world larger but big world's big let's just say that the world's big oh this from panel I mean do you want to go and see what I'm doing rather than me doing it because that's probably going to help everyone isn't it um H9 flyer I'm just rooting it through to the right places I promise I'm not stealing all the fun I used to go down there cool sorry we've gone quiet we've got dead air I've been distracted somebody was sitting in the chat they got the H9 Elite with with fans included for 259. I can't remember we've tried it out I just can't remember how many fans I liked the H9 Elite I just have to say I thought the H7 and H5 were probably just more mainstream yeah I don't know you you would think having a tech Channel or PC gaming channel that I would enjoy the high-end stuff the most I don't these days I much prefer making the videos that are more accessible and more affordable because there's a lot more challenge there I mean assuming you have access to the hardware you know anyone can just put together a PC with whatever you know if I said to you doing 100 grams of dairy milk chocolate or 250 grams what you're gonna have 250. okay see it's it's a it's a no-brainer um whereas actually if you're doing it for someone else um I would probably be more interested in the price per gram yeah I guess yeah it's like when you're going shopping you're like oh go buy this big chocolate bar for two pounds oh it gets very misleading though when you start talking about toilet roll because you've got to take the quality of the toilet around to account so obviously you can go for the ones that are like 4p a sheep but I mean is that really what you want to be using probably not no insightful stuff this is why people subscribe I mean it probably is to be fair because there's no other reason to yeah it's a bit like there's a guy building a PC in the background so people talk about toilet roll yeah um what can you say this is why I'm saying we can compete with liners um because we talk about the stuff that matters on this channel you know yeah I've not heard him mention dairy milk before when he wouldn't would he he's probably mentioned Hershey's what's all this going on with like Mr Beast maganov Hershey's and stuff is it just marketing or is it actually good I've heard different things from different people I know I've never tried it obviously I know in the UK is it I know two people that have tried it yeah someone says it's the real deal it's phenomenal other one said really didn't like it so they've got a lot of weird flavors though it's not just like weird flavor then you know like oh here's a bar of dairy milk standard chocolate yeah everybody likes it and enjoys it even Americans know what dairy milk is if you get like I don't know dairy milk Oreo you know I like that yeah I like it dry though yeah and there you go it's a bit more it's a bit more conflicting hmm I do if it's just like a Mr Beast if he does like a plain chocolate bar I guess so festival's plain I don't know does that sell feastables plain I guess so I have no idea no idea it's interesting marketing though every time I watch it I think well no one else is marketing strategy is just straight up to say this is better than this is way better than Hershey's it's is that I don't even know if that's allowed I guess it is this is no different than the whole Apple versus MAC no apple versus Windows adverts from years ago uh yeah I don't know I was probably a bit stronger than that though isn't it I don't know I find it all quite interesting and fascinating uh the other reason that the hard drive they by the way sort of folds out is so you can access these cables this is a very clever case I'm liking it I'm liking it so I think the mv7 was just so difficult to take apart and put back together it was like a puzzle piece Toblerone why right look at this Carl look at this this cable here you know about the they've gone to the effort to make it white but then you've still got all the colored cables as soon as you plug it in why like like genuinely what is the reason like is that a legal thing all the colored cables I don't know is this USB doesn't get it oh no they're the NXT ones why couldn't I I guess it's because it's much easier to assemble isn't it because you don't have any guesswork yeah but yeah that's pretty annoying I'll be honest so yeah surely the killer just made the heat heat shrink a little bit longer a little bit longer just to cover it that little bit more yeah annoying oh yeah riftstar literally does our job for us he said make sure to leave a like on the video yep leave a like on the video please thank you ribs it is River style Rift star rib star no I see riftstar's name all the time in a long time big fan of the channel and we appreciate you ripster yeah he's he's uh he's our God on the Discord as well I've got some fascinating news by the way oh um and I just want to say this is the correct or the best of my knowledge I went through the data or at least I went through some data that I could find online if it's not accurate and this is a load of rubbish I apologize but I don't believe in the you or at least in England there's been a Deidre born in a very long time I couldn't see that I went through all the different baby names right don't worry not expecting I I'm I'm personally not expecting that uh no we're not expecting don't worry but I was just having a look out of interest because I was bored and yeah there hasn't been a deardrey born in a very long time like years and years and years and I just thought there's so many babies being born surely someone's going to be a Deidre apparently not I guess not I only I've only ever heard of one Deirdre though in my life oh it used to be all the rage I think yeah and that's the one that was on Coronation Street oh I know I I used to work with a dear tree but you just you know you think someone would go no I like that name but no no apparently not anyway uh was that interesting is that more interesting talking about the apple cobbler or is that I guess I guess that's uh it's adequate yeah adequate chat um that's what you know that's that's what it's all about isn't it yeah I guess so right how's our PC looking how's our PC looking I've just plugged in a long tables and plugged in all cables so we've got our front panel uh the bottom rights we've got two USBS um one is for the LCD the other one is for the fan controller which will do RGB uh all of the stuff should eventually be syncable because you've got the um SXT RGB headers at the top so we can do some extensions which is cool we've got HD audio bottom left USB C and then our USB 3 is below that so nice and simple stuff really um yeah do need to plug our CPU fan in probably our next thing to do I'm not got much left to do is it just the power supply cables and then the GPU um no what haven't we put in yet no power supply yeah oh no oh yes oh no oh yes all the fans oh yeah all the fans you can put two up here if you want um four 120s oh three 140. I reckon you might be able to do four 120s but we haven't tried it it's I don't think it's officially supported but it might work um I'll just stick them down I guess but yeah we're gonna do it properly we do it properly um so we need to do our fans but no no no we're gonna put the GPU here won't we we need to work that one out uh we put the fans there uh this is thinking Cloud I thought we got fans to put there though didn't we with Marcus and Carl yeah yeah we got we've got oh we don't yeah yeah yeah right so we have our fans so we're using the f-140 Duos these were sent out by NZXT all the parts of that are in this PC by the way were provided by the manufacturers free of charge most of them I always say like when I always say I often say most of the stuff goes back it really does depend on what it is I'm starting to notice companies will leave things uh sort of around for a bit longer these days which is nice uh can I have some scissors or something please they might be on the box in the hallway I'm sorry Carl's now gone I'm gone so if you put something in chat you won't see it sorry that's it uh he's out of here but I need to open these boxes uh but yeah these are f-140 RGB Duos I was quite pleased when NZXT brought these out because their own RGB fans were getting a little bit tired compared to some of the competition whereas these now have a little bit more bling than the F1 20s that I suppose they do they replace or they sit alongside do you think they probably sit alongside they'd sit alongside because they also have their sort of f120 core fans as well which I think they're copying Corsair with the core core Brands not good I don't like the name core I think the core ones are like non-pwm basically not as good oh oh no oh no oh no oh there's not the daisy chainable ones oh flip fudge the problem we're going to have is that these use a controller that is not the same controller it's the no it is the same controller right but then can we daisy chain them there's no daisy chain oh it's like two in one area so and we're already using two the USBs I've got a hub it's just faff isn't it it's just fair the Corsair ones you can put six on oh it's not nine oh God silly oh the new ones yeah daisy chain knows um I mean can you plug them straight into the motherboard you can because that was the whole point yeah you can plug them straight in there but you've only got two so um do I grab the Lee and Lee fence there were only 120s though is it honest right right I'm gonna just say it it's if annoying man it's freaking annoying because it just doesn't make sense three fans is not enough so if you need a splitter why haven't you given me a splitter what like genuinely what am I supposed to do here because there's clearly going to be a way to use you know loads loads of these stacked together um you know it's got three RGB lighting channels can you daisy chain the fans like you can with the old ones no there's no like bonus RGB on the side of it no buy an srgb it just it just seems like such a oversight when you think you can use the Lee and Lee ones and you on this could potentially only use three channels of it because they tasty chain together oh what's the point no honor three phones is not enough is it so what you need to use two controllers but they come in boxes of two the only sell them in boxes of two what about the 120s no 120s you do get three it's just a pain uh what should we do should we get use the lean Lee ones but then that doesn't actually necessarily help us because we're still using yeah I've got a splitter I can use for that though so I I can make it work I could even make it work with these but frankly I refuse to because like uh do they just need the USB for control the lean Lee ones because the RGB control could be done on the case well now you've got the yeah yes you've got the RGB control here yeah so you don't get anything else in the Box other than um what we are sorry there we go you can see now so we've got our little controller we've got screws for the fans got a little pad uh we obviously have the fan itself and the fan itself has RGB on both sides oh it's got like a proprietary and then you've got the nzxt's proprietary thing on there so I'm sure you can probably buy I'm not sure you might be able to buy a splitter or something but it just seems like a three channels doesn't seem enough if you can't that because the old one the old nzx C phones you could chain together it just made more sense but then the problem was you only had the light on one side so it wasn't actually very helpful if you were wanting to use it in the other way so I say let's go with Lynley um dude let's do a weird oh hang on hang on hang on what what have you found about what was inside the cooler box a splitter so we've got one extra Port oh but then I still think that means uh wait we want we've got one extra port which means we could do One controller with these three fans and then either don't put an exhaust on or we could plug this into the motherboard so we do have enough yeah makes sense uh if you're watching at home and you're not following along the first crisis that we've had is just um three channels is not enough basically simple as that unless you can daisy chain these together um and buy extra cables and things I don't think this is the best system cool right we're on the same page make sense anything you want to add Carl do you want to pull NZXT Van versus Liam Lee 120 I don't know because I want them all to work on one single bit of software because actually that is something that does drive me up the wall yeah so that's fair um I think this is still going to be the easier solution somebody said has he explained why he has a 1500 watt power supply yet uh because I can um no that's not the reason Carl you remember the reason right uh we wanted to use custom cables and they work with that one yes we don't actually have a current Corsair power supply uh that is well we do we've got a few but one of them's over there inside our office benchmarking rig and then the other one is in my personal rig so we have another corset power supply on the way and that's like the RM 850 or something but it's not arrived yet unfortunately so yes we're using a 1500 watt power supply that absolutely everybody should buy because it's money well spent uh that is ironic so I don't actually think that right so it'll be three fans down the bottom here we'll make sure they're blowing upwards like that I don't like that they don't daisy chain together anymore frankly you know it's just what it's like a step backwards silly this is annoying you you heard it here probably not first I mean it is annoying but come on give me your opinion card I want it I don't like them especially the fact that they cost as much as they do how much do these ones cost I think they were when they 60 pounds or two oh yeah 63 quid I think for two um if it was 62 quid for three that'd be right but I mean two fans is just not really enough for anyone is it I know it's pretty standard but you were the first people to daisy chain fans pretty much right so why have you gone backwards it's just annoying which doesn't make why why would the Hub only support the fans that come in the Box as well why is there no room to I mean can you buy a cable do you want to look into it can you buy a accessory and surely you can but if you plug three 120s into it there's no extra outpour is there no or import just you know I feel like I always with live I'm always slightly cautious that nzxty might watch it and they say no no no actually you're wrong you can do this but if they don't give you the cable in the box then you'd still have to buy it separately even if you could daisy chain it but I the the core problem is that they should be at least four ports on the controller I don't think three is enough I think we're in agreement there yeah yeah you usually when you get like a Fan Hub you can it's like oh support's up to nine six five fans something like that just three three is just a bit pants in there right let's get this open so what I'm gonna do now look is do what I should have done for the top radiator which is to remove this little bracket oh how does this yeah this slide yeah there you go slides out just like that Happy Days he says there we go oh I'm getting tired now I'm running low on energy we had half a bagel each before we actually started this we did and we're running on a few minutes now one hour 47 in that's all right that's all right if you guessed it three hours 47 and it's not turned on then then we'll be sad yeah because we have to keep going and you'll regret the decision to have dinner here but it's um ten o'clock at night yeah dinner at 10 o'clock at night right so I want to turn this upside down don't I like so foreign yeah yeah because you're blowing air up and uh into the system somebody said we just got our Carl hand reveal oh no well we've got some exciting news coming up um oh I can't talk to him I can it's my decision do what I want but I can't say too much I can't say my channel too much at the moment but there are some exciting things I mean Cole made his first appearance didn't you properly I didn't oh no God sorry it was the other it was the other person apologies it was not Carl I forgot it was Carl's uh alter ego um bench car it was Bench it doesn't have the same ring as benchmarkers because benchmarkers was very smart that works because of the word Benchmark yeah except I used to be cool sorry um my friend my close friend used to be called Benchmark Marcus but it didn't really work it's just honestly it's a stupidity really isn't it it was right there yeah I mean it worked for engagement because the comments are all why didn't you just call him bench Marcus yeah that's interesting that's a uh good idea that's a good idea I have a word with him and then he uh adopted the name because he's normally down the pub isn't he actually yeah it's usually that's why I had to do it because it was down the pub again yes it's a bit sad we probably should have a word actually yeah um but yeah there you go that's that situation yeah but yeah especially during work times when he's down the pub you know can't be doing that benchmarks that is in the contract that is uh gross misconduct I don't know it is but that's just misconduct I don't know anyway uh let me know your thoughts on whether a car did a good job um should he be praised or should he be sacked well let us know in the comment in the comments the poll set or not no please don't yeah you wouldn't fight very funny imagine if they just said oh no oh okay beating him off time to go yeah time to go it wouldn't help me I'll be honest with that it put me at a disadvantage I'd have to deal with the CPU benchmarking myself no Benchmark us would well no no because I do it and then I give it to Benchmark or something yeah I don't know exactly the details of this for the logistics of how this place works yeah so I don't know the benchmarks but I know someone that does Sinners game is Nexus asked well I don't do it don't ask me yeah nothing to do with me mate yeah but you're publishing the numbers yeah I know but I was under the authority I know that Benchmark has got it right so I apologize Steve um what can I say it was an accident honestly you know these things happen yeah oh I slipped you always look away and miss the good stuff I do yeah I look at the screen well I better see if I look at the screen up here that's about to happen now maybe I don't know fascinating stuff watching yourself back on a delay yeah yeah there you go mildly interesting right handed to the left hand yeah pretty good work that out without air without watching the replay but anyway where is the other lot of cables is it in here yeah more screws you mean what did I say cables yeah well I meant screws oh we're not even got to the most difficult bit yet which is almost certainly going to be um a nightmare the yeah getting the graphics card in and we will put the graphics card in the normal slot first shall we just to show what it will look like yeah and then we're trying okay have it the other way but you got these little um blank out bits and that come in the Box like these things here look at that there you go uh that you can put on this side so if you're not using all of the fans you don't have a big gaping hole which again is smart like why why don't more companies do this yeah well I suppose fante's been doing it for a while actually like the P600 got little blank out bits that you can use yeah is that that's a P600 isn't it what did I say you said P600 yeah that's P600 yeah p600s yeah and then the p500 is the p500 a I believe a being yeah right fans in fans we have a super chat oh I've got low energy I'll do it wait let me just put this in and then I'll give you the biggest energy I've ever given just just don't blow the microphone blow this wide open right who is it King Louis King Louis we've had King Louie before that is a this is a Subaru chat from King Louie it's actually quite sad because they said that RTX 4090 build isn't working ah if only there was a video or a Discord where you could get advice and help yes because of the sadness we have we have a video you could watch and you can join the Discord because then you'll they'll help you feel better yeah yeah and we always um always recommend the troubleshooting video because I assure you that is likely to help you out yeah it still has so many comments from like saying this video save my bacon yeah this video saved the day but then you also get some comments that say oh I didn't save the day my motherboard blew up oh I had a bit of a boo-boo didn't I yeah with one of my motherboards I think for the first time ever I bent some pins on it but it still works uh a tiny tiny tiny little uh incident occurred where I dropped the plastic uh like CPU holder on the socket and it like bent one of the pins just a tiny weeny bit um and I I'm still blown away that it managed to happen because they don't understand how something so light could cause that sort of damage but yeah there we go this is what it is isn't it yeah yeah luckily it still works it still works like only tiny bit I mean it's probably still making contact but I I did fear for my life no felt for the support motherboard yeah the poor mother bought that right so we've got fans here so these don't go into a hub do they these go to the board but then the benefit actually of going for um one of these NZXT um sort of systems like this is you can control everything through the NZXT software cam which frankly is one of the best ones I don't think we can get around that can we oh so you've got support for the old RGB down the bottom and then the new RGB at the top left yeah smart sport smart yeah I I must confess I really did have no idea what you're talking about there yeah with the was it the NZXT cases though don't they have the they have like a controller built in yeah some of the mouth controllers built in just to make uh I think it's only the elite ones isn't the ones that come with the fans yeah it does get confusing this is the thing um and they almost want you to like just adopt an ecosystem and then stick to it this is the problem so that's why I like standard RGB is kind of the best um but a lot of companies have similar RGB I'm fairly sure Lee and Lee and deepco have similar RGB don't they well I'm making that up is in similar the connector it's not three pin but like fan text as well as drgb isn't it yeah I think it's still all they still use that same three pin addressable thing no it's not addressable though drgb is different digital RGB yeah drgb so you can mix and match to some extent yeah but yeah most of them are getting more more proprietary now it's just a little bit of a bummer um what do you think should we put the fan on the back I'm not sure it necessarily needs it what do you think man might as well have we got us another one we do have another one yeah yeah I know there's a can you fit a 140 at the back no I've got 120. I think let's leave it without because frankly it doesn't need it and you can just and we can always add it in at the end if you want I mean you can ask chat with chat think should we uh add the extra fan they're going to say yes though which is effort this is the problem extra fan at the back yay or nay yeah let us know it's the hottest topic we've had today big heart right that's an extra fan am I giving you guys enough information by the way are you seeing enough of this build I realized that um it's probably less than usual but it is quite difficult to do live and obviously we're having a bit of a chat while we're at it I'm just like unleashing my brain which is dangerous yeah you've been away for a for a couple weeks and you're just uh regurgitating this holiday chat when you've got nothing to talk about although I'll tell you what was good actually on holiday oh vacation um as some of you guys might say uh we kept our brains going by playing Scrabble every day oh and actually that worked quite well because we didn't get full holiday brain um I also ordered the new iPhone as well that that happened that happened that was a thing yeah um we've got an announcement about that because I want to sort of cover it so we'll be giving you more info on how we'll be covering it a little bit later but yeah it's excited excited to get that in thing is with iPhone is it's it I think once you understand that their idea of best phone is very different to Android's idea of best phone everything starts to make sense a lot of people were slagging off the fact that the iPhone um uh 15 like the non-pro doesn't have USB 3 which is outrageous doesn't have USB 3. 99.9 of people that buy that phone would never know because they won't be plugging a code but then I ordered I think somebody said because it has the chip from last year yeah I think that's probably why as opposed to obviously the new one of the new USB the pro has the new chip is I'm just basically the things that like they re iPhone gets ridiculed for doesn't matter to their day-to-day users whereas something like I don't know some of the Android phones I have and to be clear I love Android I love both I'm using the pixel at the moment right um the problem I have with a lot of Android products like this um Samsung watch so they do not age well updates make them slow I've had this with my Samsung Note 4 just got frankly um you know yes word s word uh it was uh yeah it was really really annoying because it got so bad uh had a Galaxy S8 which was better but also did slow down um and pixels and things one of my pixels like the it might be in this drawer let me show you what happened to my Google pixel uh no no oh it's not in this drawer anymore basically the back was peeling off like the back actually like the battery where the batteries expanded no it's just it was just poorly put together yeah that's a different example yeah um for other phones have I had Huawei mate 20 Pro fantastic Hardware slowed down yeah it's not too bad but yeah definitely slowed down and iPhones definitely do but case in point iPad I've got from like years ago like 2016 I think it was hmm still works like it's still fast no issues with it no um and I think for a lot of people that level of support and careful updates is actually more important but yeah there's different things for different people like the that just because something has better specs doesn't make it better this is what we kind of need to talk about is the day-to-day usability of it and there are loads of things that really wind me up about iPhone like the notification system I think is frankly abysmal when you compare it to Android um and I've got loads of bugs with my pixel and I've had loads of bugs on my iPhone the fact that iPhone third-party keyboard support has got worse can't have SwiftKey it's really really sad so I almost see the worst in both platforms now rather than like the best thing but yeah I'll be interested to hear everyone else's thoughts on this anyway but you've just got to remember iPhone sells so many phones to so many people most of them are just everyday Joes and the thing that might be upsetting you and you think is hilarious that the iPhone doesn't have it doesn't have it because it's I don't really think it you know they don't think it matters to their core audience no to know like the most important thing for me with the reason I like iPhone at the moment is just because the Apple watch is just infinitely better than all of the Android watches and the way they work together it makes my life just easier so I actually I really I do not like this watch anymore but it's laughable how much slower it is I could never get the pay to work on this ever set it up twice like doesn't ever work every time I get it does not work I've never managed to pay with this watch like why yeah I've never tried to be honest I've never even thought to myself I'd like to play with my watch as opposed to just oh yeah that's the thing like does that matter you could also argue that I mean we didn't really matter does it it does mean that if you're ever out and you don't have your phone on you you still always have a method of payment but yeah have like a 4G plan though as well though wouldn't you no no no no no it was like the same as a credit card you don't need a credit card to work yeah what do you guys think uh did you watch the iPhone launch are you impressed with them have you ordered them or do you just not care do you think that they are laughable yeah I'm interested to see what the camera is like because I think that's the most important thing and also the fact that they finally got USBC makes my life a lot easier as well yeah yeah it's exciting now I go away and while I do need a watch charger but that would be the same on Android as well I now don't need to take a lightning charger and I updated my headphones from the XM through 2 to the xm4s the Sony's USBC so it's a lot less cables now yeah exciting stuff you always need that random micro USB though for that one like random thing you would take with you and you're like oh look my fan my hand fan has micro USB all those random battery Bankers micro USB it's true just need to just need to transition to USBC everything pretty much there though aren't they are pretty much there right you've tempted me um I'll plug this in oh no okay all right we're not using that fan because it's 140. so yeah take it back people said you've got enough fans as is yeah okay cool right um still loads to plug in and connect though which is pretty oh yeah yeah Ralph Dennis said they give Apple props for improving the designs like the black back glass replacement yeah Tom was really excited about that Mr tech chat but I thought it was funny he was like saying how cheap it is to repair I mean okay just because it was 500 or 400 or whatever it was before and it's now gone to 190 quid that still make it cheap is it no but I think you could probably do that yourself now right whereas that's one of the things I hate about the smart watches now I scratched my Apple watch and because of the way it's the I think the glass that quote me if I'm if I'm wrong I apologize but I'm fairly sure that if you replace the glass you have to replace the screen as well yeah so it's like it's just not worth repairing I mean did you hear about pixel watch as well apparently the the Google been saying no you can't really repair it but yeah that is the other like downside to the Android side of things it's like if you break your the screen on your even like a Samsung phone like a popular Samsung phone it's still like you know impossible to get replaced for you know a reasonable price yeah oh yeah and there just seems to be a lot more yeah whether they're registered verified Apple certified people that repair stuff you you still have that option hmm as opposed to like the the Samsung you might just send it off for like a week with somebody and then you're like oh I'll kind of not have a phone for a week yeah well I was going to look at again AppleCare Plus for the watch um but then when you read the small print I can't remember how much it was 100 quid I think for the Apple care but that's still 49 quid then I call it about 50-ish quid excess so I was like well from repairing it and I'm paying Apple Care so I'm basically paying like 160 quid or so um in case I damage my watch I'd rather try not to damage it than buy a new watch why not just rather try not to damage it and then that why pay 160 quid up front to say right I'm definitely going to damage it this 160 pounds that I pay yeah saved me money in the long run I said no yeah you know I think the excess is a bit too high on that I think like what GoPro do I think they do like oh you know we'll give you a hundred pound discount if you sign up for our year plan or whatever but if you break it it's replaced and no questions asked you know if you can break your GoPro yeah you've done well well it's a very different class of product though yeah um but yeah yeah there are better ways of going about it on there yeah he's like you either you pay extra you might pay that extra yearly charge for that just in case but yeah I suppose it's different obviously it's a lot more expensive iPhone's a lot more expensive than a GoPro yeah I mean what do you think on this topic of insurance what do you think about PC Insurance because I see a lot of people doing this now because there's not always much money this is the key thing it's quite cheap so you attempt to tell what like when you go to check out when it's like I'll protect your parts for three years for including 10.99 stuff like what are your thoughts on that I I don't know I guess it's usually covered under house insurance isn't it that sort of stuff I don't I guess it depends what it is because it gets stolen on the way to you then it's you know obviously the retailer in Courier's problem not yours I think that well the scan one in particular is if you damage your components whilst you're assembling it yeah so is that worth taking out what'd you say I I wouldn't but I guess it's that because your experience probably yeah if you first time ever and you think oh it's going to cost me 50 pounds to ensure this to get it replaced if I do it wrong then then maybe yeah I can see the I can see they've been worried I mean something like the CPU and the motherboard you know if that's like eight quid yeah you know and it's gonna make you feel a lot better fair enough um but the rest of the PC is pretty uh solid and if it doesn't work it's not gonna usually be your fault right power supply that we're using then um there's the HX 1500i um very few people need this frankly this is probably the sort of case people are going to use um with this power supply to be fair um yeah you're not going to put that in your little no but the reason we're doing 40 70 TI today rather than like a 4090s purely because we have um a brand new white RTX 4070 TI in from palette and it just seemed the most appropriate card to put in this case to make it look nice and pretty um there are plenty of 40 80s and 49ers that are white so you know if you need extra performance go for that frankly the i7 is still a decent Choice even for pro 4090 yeah yeah so yeah absolutely I wouldn't actually worry too much about that but obviously buy whatever GPU you want but I think the palette is going to look quite cool yeah or a 6950 XT for 569 pounds yeah it's not white I mean why if you put a black GPU in this build frankly I say don't turn on you should be embarrassed your motherboard's got black on it I don't actually think that it would look weird though yeah it would look different I mean we can that's Gray it looks alright to be fair it's not quite right though is it not you know and what we're going to do here as well if we can this is going to go here oh my God that could cause this problem no okay yeah the other way around isn't it well I thought we saw in Gamer's Nexus video from the preview we had it the other way have it there yeah I think you can do either or that would look weird apparently it says on their website some oh we're getting ahead of ourselves though aren't we what we're talking about is this weird quirky GPU mount and right everyone watching this attention if you're watching this on another monitor you're talking to your mum about Finance I don't Know full attention please everybody you're not ready for this look at the size of the pcie Riser cable that literally supplied for what we're going to do who is that look at it it's as tall as me oh it's not as tall as me it says taller Carl yep look at that 900 mil 900 mil that's my height that's his surname Carl 900 mil um yeah there you go look at that that is most of them are usually like that big so I mean signal Integrity though I don't know I'm sure it's probably fine but I would say you are kind of asking for trouble and I'd rather not use one this big but what is the reason for it being so large because it's got to go through and then back and then I guess you can either go up the top or down the bottom I don't I don't know hmm I mean we will try it but it's just it does yeah hey look if we get it working and everything's fantastic Happy Days uh but there we go you know what would look funny in this build a 4070 huh look at that that is just ridiculous isn't it come on it's actually smaller than the motherboard um not the one I would go for myself yeah that'd be great in the little club PC that is you know I love the Fe that is what I'd go for I mean I wouldn't like I've named it Carter at the moment unless it's looking at the high end when fine 40 70 above fine anything other than that yeah you're looking at AMD um but I would go for a small case yeah then you'd probably have an XT over a 40 70. I mean this is a 40 90. yeah I suppose so yeah depends uh yeah that looks more normal it still looks very small doesn't it yeah um this is quite a good idea actually so that's a 4090 uh in the rig uh and this one here is a 3080 ti so this is an example of a big card from the previous generation so it's a little bit smaller than what we 've been used to and that's how that fits in yeah some useful Insight really it's just so just to give you some perspective of how large uh this is yeah the only restrictions will be what you put on the side if you if you go for a giant reservoir on the right hand side then maybe but I mean how many blanks do we have uh did I already get one out or is it just two blanks because these blank out this bit here look so you can do one at the top one at the bottom and then have fans in the middle yeah I think it's you do like the three 120s and you put them in then it fills in the fills in the space so they don't look yeah there's no giant space at the bottom of the top I mean if we can't get the vertical GPU to map to work at the moment we've got uh uh how many ports free we've got one two so we've only got room for two more fans at the moment if we were going to fill that with fans so yeah okay uh let's do the power supply next oh it's getting heavy now oh my God we haven't got the glass on yet there's a screw under there yeah that's kind of walkabouts it's all good it's all good right um we've got 45 minutes to try and complete this oh yeah I don't know maybe we'll put the GPU in the normal location no no no no we're not because we're gonna have a huge hole otherwise Carl this is a we've committed well you could do the three one twenties with the well we're almost ready to do it it's fine this power supply that is overkill that most people won't that's what I'm going to buy um yeah well this just fit in nicely yeah yeah because oh no oh no oh no oh no no no it's all gone wrong it's all gone wrong I'm not what we oh God's sake really how much effort is it to take the motherboard tray out oh no I don't think it's that much effort actually is it just those two so basically if you can't work out what's happened there's a cable tidy bracket that's what they are it just pulls out they just pull out look at that that's what the holes were the weird things that's great I like that we've gone from we've gone stupid case designed to genius yeah why would they do that well they didn't that's cool that I like that so now problem solved this can just chill mega power supply in the top like that that makes a lot more sense I love the design though that you can just put ssds and things in there tallestly yeah unnecessary but cool but cool careful oh yeah I kind of forgot that's like it's just sat there what's he doing oh my goodness he's being steady what is the most silly thing I've done so far on the channel it's got to be spitting that laptop on my fingers I think that was low point a low point you did for us that 13 900k out of that CPU out of that motherboard oh that yeah okay that was the worst I didn't I don't say I threw it I didn't throw it it fell it flew and you didn't know about that did you were like editing the video no that it just happened I was like I don't know what is going on yeah rip star said I thought you said this build would go better than the last one uh do you know how badly the last build went what's your tone young man that build was a disaster this build's fine it's just um there's a lot and there's just a lot to do it's a it's a different sort of problem why is that not in scandal what's going on events what's going on here then I don't know yeah it's fun no Panic no stress no trouble no cry no and you don't know what happened earlier made me laugh um I'm fortunate enough to um so I have some grandparents left granted uh they are a little bit older now um but I rang them up this morning uh to say oh I'm free this weekend we haven't seen you in a while would you like us to pop over for you know like a cup of tea whatever works for you really like they're quite old now so um they don't do that much driving but they do a bit that's in that's relevant to this bit of the story because the reply I got to would you like us to come over um this uh this weekend was yeah we haven't been to yours in ages yeah we can come over no problem whatsoever it's like oh you sure we're happy to drive to you no no it's okay we'll come to you hahaha I don't mind it's all good but it's just made me laugh anyway because it was not not the question it's like okay yeah yeah that's fine still right we're on for cables now and we've been smart because we've got our uh white braided 12 volt high power connection in white this will plug into the power supply uh that's all done now isn't it this is heavy this is big heavy now it's getting very heavy now this on a scale of one to heavy probably should have put these cables in first yeah um being smart look pcie yes one this is a 600 watt cable as well two there we go right what about right rest of the cables um yeah because to be fair with this we're not actually sure where it's going to go yet are we no um I'll feed it through for now but we might have to move it after I thought that's in the rest of the cables we have to do in our PS Pro that's that was called Pro PSU cable kit I don't think there's a PlayStation Pro PlayStation Pro also how nice was it this weekend that Max verstappen didn't win a race it was absolutely fantastic um we actually had a good race and I think everyone enjoyed it big Sands for George at the end uh he did you know he was going so well uh whether Lewis could have done it in his place you know we don't know but yeah thoroughly enjoyed that race and uh you know I'm all for Red Bull doing well just not uh for like the whole season contact is red ball won every single race this season up until it makes it a little bit boring yeah it's very boring yeah which are the rest of the stuff is actually very interesting yeah I just thought I'd get that get there and get it out get that in there yeah some Red Bulls didn't win a race some some venting anyway I know there are people in the chat that are probably from the Netherlands that don't appreciate that but then at the same time I think they can understand and appreciate that somebody said George bottled it George bottled it yeah I heard George bottled it George ran out of talent George didn't have the minerals someone said he said he's born loser I right you leave my boy from King's Lynn alone uh because I'm sure he's getting all the all the abuse but an actual fact um he did you know he did well it is difficult and anyway I'm pretty sure George touched the wall as well and um sorry Lando touched the wall as well but uh George like followed him in so like the equivalent was uh Lando sort of went but George Went so yeah uh let's hope this floor is strong should be okay there's any cardboard do you just watch me sometimes and think yeah I'm looking at this corner that has grown since we tidied it yeah well we're building a rig you know we're doing this for the people well this mess has been created look at the mess yeah we are doing that that is true right let's feed the power supply cable through like that um and we need to plug motherboard in to where it says motherboard I do enjoy these live streams though it's just it's like a therapy session where I just talk to myself and just get it all out get it all out uh George ran out of talent so rude poor George I mean one of my favorite Clips was when Lewis uh it's a car caught fire um like 10 years ago now at the time I was so I don't think I've been more Angry in my life but watching it back now you can't help but laugh because it's the infamous one where he uh on the radio guys oh no no and then you see him get out of the car and just go now it is actually quite amazing but it wasn't funny because that's the reason he lost the season with rosberg big sand ah you don't have a clue what I'm talking about no no idea maybe you should get into F1 uh that's a nerve isn't it not for you maybe I should maybe maybe I should give up on football as well I didn't know you're into football yeah I guess we've never really spoken about it because it's not my bag yeah I waste hours watching that especially if you support man united I think I didn't know you supported man united today yeah that's when the family are from up North didn't they up north northern yeah I got told off for not knowing that Everton was nothing to do with Manchester United no it's Liverpool yeah exactly there you go so that's that's 11 my knowledge I used to have a season ticket for Crystal Palace many years ago but I just it just realized it just wasn't my sport so yeah simple as that really you know there's nothing wrong with that no no I know I'm accused of being too into formula one because it uh gets into every part of my life every part of your life yeah uh well I mean I've got fear into it so yeah I would actually say yes every part of my life yeah you went to watch it not long ago didn't you I mean at um at our wedding we are planning to have the table names be Formula One related we're not sure if he's gonna say was planning on having a race having a race yeah electric sets up in the spare room but then I think is that a bit anti-social I don't know uh yeah so wedding planning is going well so far actually we're just think about all the things that will be funny so yeah right let's plug some cables in um we've got our SATA there's a lot of Santa it's not as two there's four I can see oh yeah but we don't need to plug all of them in because oh yeah there's a white one there as well I need to put that from that's the one we do want to plug in it's the one we definitely want to plug in so there's that one does that one so do we have fours oh the white one I think is that the case RGB yeah yeah uh is that one yeah so the two black ones that we don't need um are for the uh SATA power for these drives but then there should be like say a white one right down the bottom there you're touching it with your finger yeah that can be plugged in it's gonna get messy everybody I feel like SATA connections like USB you plug it in one way then yeah 100 turn it around it's still the wrong way 100 percent 100 what's this for I love how this case it looks like what's that eight pin CPU how is that did I not plug it in I guess not has it got two of them no is that is yeah that's the CPU right so that'll go in like that it seemed like there was so much room and then now now we're squishing yeah but squishing is only a problem if you don't have room to squish that's cable ah stuck at the bottom ah oh no power supply if only we'd picked a different power supply why did we choose the world's largest power supply we I mean we yeah you chose it there is no way ah now we're good yay yes yes that actually worked out quite well so far anyway call blimey all right around this side then so we're almost done we are almost done we've got half an hour um well I mean we don't we've got an infinite amount of time you signed away your soul when you joined the company the did I yeah you do you not see the small print no it says I sign one times so one time Soul four minimal uh return oh uh right so there's that CPU cable top left CPU cable to life yeah remember you don't need to plug both in you can do um but you should get enough power just from the one eight pin anyway so it's more of a slight serious overclocking thing if you're gonna okay go and do that but if you've got the spare cables which almost certainly do like you should plug them in really but we're being a little bit lazy and by we once again I'm talking about me I thought he was going to say cow well we I mean Carl is yeah maybe one week you should do the build an RB Manning the chat you can be the critique yeah it always looks uh always looks easy from this chair does it yeah you're like why is he not doing that but then when you're up there it's like oh no it's like Who Wants To Be A Millionaire everybody's Watching Me Now much harder right that should be everything plugged in then I think I think these cables have aged I was gonna say they look yellow yellow in comparison that's interesting isn't it I guess it's just where they've been handled probably the oils yeah so yeah they look a bit less white yeah especially right next to that uh tube that goes past it we're not filming b-roll so yeah that's a bit annoying it's not like you can wash them I don't know right should we get on with the difficult bit hopefully it won't be a difficult bit um if this does go wrong I do blame Carl because what did I say to you to do before this live stream started look up how to do it look up how to do it I know you I don't think you want the GPU yet I know that much 900 mil Riser cable that's what you've already got is yeah this box yep did it not have an instruction of course not did it you looked I don't know it might be the main big book which is somewhere near you oh no that's a hole in the Box I thought I actually thought that was it but it's definitely not what up an instruction manual it might be on the big introduction menu in the back behind you I don't like the look of this I'll be honest it looks intimidating what in the original manual yeah the one there Jonah I have a Goosey I love a goose it's a goose Goosey Gander all right because multiple my geese is a gander uh right here we go here we are here's our 4070 brand new from palette as I say they've supplied this one for not specifically for this build they just sent one out I mean when someone says would you like to look at a GPU you normally say yes very rarely say no uh but this is the gaming Pro but it's the white Edition I did have a look to see if that doesn't matter what cover up I I did look it up to see if you could get this card in like 4080 and 40 90 but it doesn't appear that you can but there are loads of other cards like gigabytes Aero that frankly is massive but you do not have to worry about that in this particular chassis so you're all good oh right um who's messaging me this is not the time what's going on this is not appropriate it's not in this uh it's not fear I thought it was there um oh it's just that's yeah that's not relevant it was just someone coming in the front door oh yeah it does say on Lee and Lee's website yes due to GPU color design some gpus have been found to perform significantly better with GPU i o facing down as opposed to mounting up well this is what I was thinking surely down is better because even if um even if you prefer the look of your card facing upwards think about the connection the HDMI cable you're going to have to have that much extra length if it's at the bottom was if the I O's at the top you're going to have to have that plus that no one has that much extra GPU um HDMI length or whatever it's just big faff there's big fat let's be honest big big faff I suppose you could just buy one that's longer but I mean what does it look better the other way do you think I mean what are the options the options are I think that looks bad that way around bad oh well because oh because you see the underside yeah but then this might perform worse Carl the majority of the cards on their website they say perform better with it facing down but then that doesn't look so good so it defeats the whole point isn't it yeah it doesn't look as good facing down um so yes this is what it looks like everybody with it in like this there we go you got that does look quite cool and interesting or you can have it um the normal orientation of course which is like this um which looks good but then obviously you need fans here or it just looks a bit silly I do like the card though the white on the top yeah it looks nice that matches the motherboard quite well um okay so what we're going to do we go for looks today or should we go for performance and ease of use I mean you say you don't like the look of this right it's meant to go like really high up the top but then you have like the bracket goes in at the bottom well you want it surely to be level with the ball it looks a bit silly I don't think you get to choose where it goes right well let's just go from here so we have a bracket Inside the Box okay it's not inside the Box okay it was technically inside a box it's inside your it's an optional extra and an optional extra that let's be honest most people probably won't go for but it is an option um it then well put you on overhead look so you can see oh it's only six pounds at AliExpress six pounds well it's not exactly much metal is it no so this will attach like this and then it attaches to the case upwards like that I mean you don't do it in that order obviously that would be silly um but you have it like that or you have it like that but the underside of the card crucially is not as attractive as the top so yeah yeah I'm supposed to keep but then what why go to all this effort and then piss a wave of like thermal performance potentially yeah yeah it depends on the card it was mainly like the only time I've seen it properly those those reference AMD ones exactly yeah those were not quite so good uh but okay let's put it at the top and then we'll see if we get a cable that can actually reach that far away so it's like that isn't that like that that's it yeah that's the one set that let's go up here at the top then you screw it in from the back I think you can just about see those those holes up there like that yeah wait what oh like that yeah oh there's so there's a cat I say so there should be there's a little catch look on this side yeah and that has to kind of go or does it go in or does it just sit like that what do we reckon um I mean that does kind of work isn't it yeah and then screw you say screws in from the back yeah on both sides yeah I'm pretty sure okay let's try that what do you know what the right angle bit is for there's like a little right angle hook thing uh what's that and a little pad oh I think that's to like sort of hold it in place you might kind of might put it halfway down just like a bit of a uh oh support yeah oh that's a GPU support bracket okay I guess to stop it if it bends out a bit or something or yeah this is why we gave him the big computer we're both intelligent people I think not the smartest let's be honest I mean more me I was sorry that sounded rude I'll try to insult myself not you uh Carl's big smile um but we were had him sat at the other side of the room on with a laptop that cooks his legs he needs to be plugged into power and we've done about six live streams and then I said to him today why don't we just use the computer oh we had we didn't have a good reason oh yeah we could couldn't we and uh yeah ever since um he's been set up using the big 38-inch display you can still see isn't covered by anything I can quickly just Google something without being awkward and just all around better what's this who's this one was that also part of the uh what that means to go doesn't it oh um oh I think you used that as in conjunction with the little the hook racket to help uh basically get hold of the GPU and keep it in place right okay I think you put it on one end and you can obviously adjust it for the depending on how thick your GPU is yeah that makes sense but this goes on here like that doesn't it and then must screw in like that makes sense to you that look about right that looks about right it's just fiddly this is almost like two-person job but there's unfortunately only one person here so I'm actually not here yeah we can't have you assist just yet we have to wait until we get a space reveal all basically for a gag um yeah oh you see what I mean it's pain oh where's that good gone oh it's getting to that stage now isn't it it's the classic late game in that video everything's starting to get more and more annoying but then this oh I've dropped screws oh it's a disaster okay maybe I need to go for the small screwdriver is that going to help nope that's even worse a lot of people aren't happy with the uh the tubes and the cooler what they think is too stretched yeah well I can adjust that yeah we just unloosen the screws and slide it when you say unhappy Define unhappy um mildly annoyed big annoyed someone said uh looks wrong with stretch tubes would have installed it in the front well we're putting the GPU there so we can't in the front what here I imagine there yeah no uh well I mean I don't know what I'm saying I like that yeah that's fine I like it being tucked out the way someone said it looks wrong I can I can change it I agree I I think it could look better not an issue it moves oh small stupid screws does that look right that looks right yeah does the uh I suppose the front glass panel pops off so you can screw it in from that side I guess can't you I mean these screws are not the easiest actually oh no it's not even screwed in what's going on right is that definitely screw in why is that not working does it scream from the other side do you think there's literally there's just no instructions it's just pictures I mean maybe to bit their credit they might have given us a reviewer's guide but then if this is a product you can buy yeah it's actually on AliExpress by today yeah that should be okay I think you screw it to the other side oh calm down it's okay it's okay and it's only whoa no need to stress but there you go yeah that's the one screw from that side now I've got to find all these screws that I've dropped inside yeah that is the best things American Americans invented though the woo chair like whoop I'll just get anything yeah I'm I'm a fan yeah I like it just makes your life a lot more exciting yeah wooing not wooing the you know wearing a partner just going whoa it's good it's just uh let's let it all out yeah this is going to be heavy now isn't it it's gonna be where's the screws jeez oh there's one third where's the other one which I mean where it's one oh okay careful careful you're playing with fire oh on my head almost caught oh you've got one is it the right one yeah yeah why is the other one gone I can hear it where is it I know this isn't great content right now I'm sorry but I've got to pick this thing up again now don't I yeah ugh where have you gone it's in there somewhere oh no I think it's falling out good got it good good ready to go try again something's just come out see what that is from oh right because back straight [Music] that's not a joke yeah just destroy the graphics card right there um yeah no fun as I said let's start this video not a joke not a joke really not a joke do not hurt yourself when you're using this case because it's just not worth it is it what's up what that bracket on the side comes out what bracket the one you just screwed that thing into this one yeah all right well it's still okay doesn't it yeah but I think it's for like installing this stuff and it probably would have been easier hmm maybe it just slides up doesn't it but then yeah and it's got a thumb screw up there um like potentially but I don't think you'd want to attach the graphics card and then attach that in so I'm not too fussed about that one if I'm honest but yeah there you go if you're doing fans that would have definitely been easier oh God oh I'm physically exhausted from this one IO tubes no this is just wasting time come on everybody come on I didn't know the tubes were going to get stretched did I in my defense have you got to take them all out as well to slide in not all of them just some of them this is um in one of the key positions like you do have to move the screws around a fair bit to get it to move back but it should be all right it should be okay but you've got to give the people what they want so they'll be they'll be unhappy otherwise this is the sort of thing I'd usually like fix and post where you know in the b-roll it would magically get better just magically fixes this better everybody keep going no that's it is it because it's stuck on the cpu8 PIN no no I mean yeah I'm not happy with that you're not going to get it much better than that if you put it further forward then you have too much of a gap there anyway yeah so I'd say let's leave it as that it's personal preference keep going is that okay is chat happy with that chat are you happy with that I think they're happening good two hours 42 minutes and the system is still not built thanks John appreciate that what what you've watched what have I I've only spoken about apple cobbler once all right I mean we couldn't have done this that much quicker really like the it's the fans and the radiators you wonder why I say hate radiators because if we just done a normal build obviously it would have been a lot quicker you know there's no just use a case that had like four pre-installed 140 mil fans yeah right you take like a half an hour to build that and this is real world as well this is why we do these live streams because it gives you the um well it properly shows you how complex or not complex people are saying it's untidy what's on it's not done the desk come on but I was a work in progress come on come on I want to say mean to me right so you reckon this now no no no no no no no no no no we're good we're good okay and which one do we want it in I suppose any of them any of them will work for anyone at work yeah the middle one you might want to plug in the rise a bit first before you screw it in that's a smart decision it looks like it'd be fiddly should it go up more a little bit better higher up well I think you can see every part of it there if you put it higher up you'll just be more tube blocking it I think you reckon yeah um I mean if you were to put it up how many more how much higher is it yeah you've got quite a lot of flexibility so you absolutely can put it further up I think then that fits quite nicely there because then there's no big gap at the bottom there you do have a gap at the top though yeah you will also then be more likely to see your cables that come in yeah oh yeah so I mean it would be nice if this was of cover uh shroud yeah if you had a cable cover because you're going to see the um HDMI cable aren't you I don't know if I might have a white one somewhere white HDMI cable that'll be hard wouldn't it I I had one you get one with Nintendo switch or at least I think you did at one point maybe not no no you didn't I used it run the Nintendo switch LG um gave them out with their high-end monitors yeah so I don't think it's going to make a dramatic difference we'll leave it here but actually if you put it all the way at the top you would hide your cables the most but yeah I think actually this is the biggest problem I have with this case so far is that if you do have it in this orientation it just doesn't really make that much sense because thermals you can see all those cables down the bottom now where like all of the the fan cables or the USB cables they're just always going to be sticking out usually you would you'd have your GPU there what vertical GPU I think this would look better yeah because you've got so much room so I would say standard vertical GPU fans yeah I think is optimal for appearance right yeah and you've got enough room here that it's not going to massively affect your thermals and you can see the card better but it's a different case so we're going to uh go with it I also don't think this needs to be so big I guess it is for Pat wait a minute [Music] how's this gonna yeah How's that gonna go through the back very easily I know it will but that is fast now just this is too long it's going to be far too long far far far too long isn't that just don't really don't like it it might not be what you don't reckon that's fancy you've got they say you poke the whole thing through the bat and then come oh yeah I know that but then don't forget the other side we've got a massive hard drive cage so I think we actually need to take the hard drive cage out for this to work properly yeah so you can actually poke it through yeah which just seems a bit well I tell you a bit of a shame it doesn't matter because there's nothing in it at the moment I suppose um so let's remove the hard drive cage I would usually be flipping the case around a lot more so you know you I know it doesn't matter you seeing this particular bit because obviously you'll still see me take it out but um the case has got so heavy now that I'm trying to be cautious oh no it's actually attached to it's cable managed oh it's got all the um yeah I mean I will get rid of it because I I think most people would want to do the same but there's a Cable Management let's put it in there I just I don't know it's just just as I say seems a bit unnecessary and they've cable managed it really tight as well so you've got a higher chance if you do cut this cable tie of um cutting a cable I think we're good though yeah I think it's difficult it's obviously a good idea well yeah it's an option this is the point you can't fault them for giving you an option because you don't have to take them off on it it's not like a big big deal really is it no um but it's more like this was just the plan that we were going to go for and the plan isn't coming together well it is coming together it's just I think it's a flawed system everything else has worked out really nicely it's taken a while but it's worked out I'm not sure about this one so that's that to give you a better idea look let's show on the other head um here's your hard drive cage and you've got the connections right in the middle there can you see Connections in the middle so you could just slide your drives in and then you don't have to worry about caving them up I'm not really sure that oh hello uh I Fade to Black not I'm just not sure that's necessary though do people really appreciate that when you see so many cases you know emitting hard drives I feel like that's just maybe I don't know how necessary how much cost is that yeah there's two of them as well because you are paying for it make no mistake you are paying for it one way or the other um so I think yeah it could be annoying to some people right so you reckon this goes through like this yeah I mean it must don't twist it around don't bend it the wrong way well that's not right no flat keep it flat I'm trying to keep it flat that's it I don't like the ones that separate like that I think they look so much worse than the when they're just a big solid flat piece yeah but then this is probably more flexible right yeah right so that that looks quite good doesn't it yep and then you've got to go I suppose if you have it the GPU ran the other way then the connection would be on the right hand side be a bit further away yeah um I'm gonna come in nearly with the ATX is I think well yeah this is a bit more tricky because there's loads of cables here like this would have been a lot easier to root it's one of the first things you did to be honest yeah this is gonna be problematic to get this in you can see it or it's not just like that yeah except it wants to be at the top is it oh circumference in the ATX well I'm not thinking I'm just doing I want to cut myself disaster honestly these cables everywhere it's pure chaos right oh man so how near the top right near the top like by the ATX it's right here like that but then is that the wrong way around there How does it go in which way around is it must be that way man yeah plug it in first and then and then split it in that's in yep so it goes in this oh I mean what what wait this must go around that way anyway yeah it is why do we do the difficult ones as the live ones honestly but I I said you could have done the normal GPU no I know [Laughter] uh yeah okay this would be more problematic actually if you were to have a no no that's fine you need to use the GPU hole nearest to you because this has quite a lot of yeah it sticks that way yeah so you can't push the card back actually you will have to have it further at the Run yeah it's okay but then how do you screw it in you probably need to take the front glass off didn't you yeah and then just get the two screws in the side easy peasy it's not easy peasy you know what it's it's lemon it's it's not lemon difficult not lemon squeezy no easy peasy lemon difficult oh right there we go that's that we've got four minutes I don't see it happening I mean it is basically done assuming this this bit works if you you could you could YOLO it like you did the last one just plug the cable in and leave it I mean there's not a firm cutoff point I mean we're basing this off our dinner time because I've got my uh sister with us at the moment and uh she's cooking us some food but I'm not sure if you understand what a live stream even is um so she won't understand and I'll feel like 12 again it's like no mum we're not done yet I don't want dinner yet just wait I can't pause it yeah we can't pause it we can end it game over oh god oh it's just sorry I'm you're hearing struggling noises but if you were editing this I would have said add um text that says struggling noises struggling noises yeah it's like Pokemon isn't it when you've got no moves left struggles do you struggle yeah that's what you've got you've got no moves left what is this garbage come on I don't I need three hands honestly come please look I can see it lines up please please please sound like Ajax um dog that whines if you want my contacts that's stand up for a stretch so you're also behaving like Ajax so we're all taking a leaf out of his book a big stretch Big Stretch that's the best tick tock song Big Stretch song I've not heard the Big Stretch song just basically it's like a big stretch Gotta Give a big stretch something like that I suppose the other advantage of being on this PC is I have a wireless headset with a wireless microphone I'm actually completely free you're in it's a winner oh there you go yeah yeah I mean we could make that tighter but it's not really too much need to be thin just kind of goes in there like that come on these two sense pins they're all the cables always so much harder to push through the cable management and it just ended up stretching come on come on come on scent spins thank you all right let's feed that through honestly this is ridiculous now can people even see me yeah a little bit struggling uh oh standing desk all right let's do that for now there we go that's fine that's fine it doesn't have to be perfect it just has to be good enough yeah these Corsair cables are definitely a lot Yeller than the rest of it which is a bit of a shame right build complete ish um I know there's a oh yeah that does need to wait where's that bracket thing is it this and this where's that guy and this how so what this this goes on there like I should have done this before so this must go on there like that I love it on on the website which is a simple installation it's not difficult it's just you've got to understand what you're doing um which I don't clearly does that go that might go on yeah that goes in there like that look then this goes there curves around kind of like kind of like that it's so that looks kind of like tuck in if you do this properly this will tuck in at the back and just keep that and hold it in place in place or might might still be that way Maybe I don't know it's this is not right but I mean for the live stream that's fine that's usually these live streams then yeah well no we need to you know I I just I mean it doesn't really matter because we don't recommend it do we does it look okay or not really it's I don't get wise so sort of like wonky do you know what I mean well that's what I mean I think ignore that because that is just the installation and we haven't got that in but then I think a week yeah that does look a bit wonky is it is it is it wonky like the bracket at the top straight but then it's not because this bit here is flush down bottom but it's not straight no no you reckon I mean what do you guys think well here you go oh come on look on camera that looks all right what isn't it that looks good on camera but it is wonky what do you think I know you're a perfectionist right this is the problem this is what you haven't seen yet this is what I've not seen the disaster oh no so yeah that is not ideal um you're gonna have to it's just this is too long we've already discussed that that's too long these can come down a bit that can go over there look no that's not crammable so that's what you're gonna have to contend with cable management isn't going to be great with that I'm afraid however it doesn't matter because there's a very easy way to fix this oh no I've just seen that lovely organized type of screws yeah it happens it all went a bit wrong I told you I flipped it by mistake so yep that happens but as you can see now the easy solution if you have cable mess is just turn it round to the other side of the camera so it can't be seen and then anyone that skips to the end of the video doesn't see it and no one would know um I think it's a shame that we've sort of was not ended we're obviously going to turn on test it see whether it works um but it's a little bit of a shame to have ended on the GPU bracket because that is the least impressive bit isn't it yeah like even if you can get it to work this is thing this is live we have live problems obviously to contend with um and that's not to say that this isn't going to work because it absolutely can especially modders and things they get this to work beautifully you'll be able to reinforce it with Hardline tubing things like that you'd be really happy with it but just put it in a standard vertical Mount I think it would work better in this particular case I think um I mean I assume you can buy a normal vertical GPU mount for it be very surprised if you couldn't yeah I think you can I think it it might even still use the old default Lindley one yeah I'm not I'm not not too concerned about that um I would just go for a normal one or normal orientation I get I like that you can do it and you get the option and it does look interesting but obviously you've still got to plug in that um front i o and you just there's just more problems really you just create so many problems by doing that that in my eyes it just doesn't really make sense but hey maybe that's just me yeah yeah you can still use the the universal GPU kit yeah I I imagine so it would have been odd for that not to be the case right so we'll see if this works then yep do you need a display um I don't know yet oh I've got that ready to go actually I was organized display cable is here um plug that in no it's all good I don't need that no no you're all good don't eat that oh you're just gonna yeah go out the camera into the Mainframe I am into the main floor yeah we've got this spare cable here like HDMI four everyone needs an hdmi4 in their life we have it oh right so this is the problem you're gonna have to plug into this graphics card I know I've already mentioned this but it's just silly I just it's just so much fat I just don't think it makes sense um it's very convenient for me now to be fair very convenient for me now but yeah I can't say I'm a fan of that can I see Maybe oh that's lame isn't it this comes with the bars in the way as well just there's no shroud on it it's just why why have they done this ah I've not been electric shocks on this channel before until now HDMI cable I touched the end of it ah and it's plugged into this which is live that's a new one that's a new one proceeds to resume doing the same thing yeah that was horrible oh that was the fear yeah that wasn't great I'll be honest so don't touch the ends if you actually it's more static I don't know it was definitely an electrical shock I yeah didn't enjoy that people are saying you should have just used the motherboard slot Marcus yeah we know that now you know that doesn't work right what the motherboard's a lot oh no I thought you meant plug the HDMI into the motherboard oh no I mean you could technically say that off in a second don't tell me there's not enough room I think this is oh no we're good right keyboard mouse please uh I also should say I realize I haven't mentioned it in this stream uh don't forget PC Centric mouse mat is available I'm I'm hoping and thinking that we're gonna sell out um this year and then it's gone forever that you know that might not happen let's let's be frank we don't know how the numbers are going to go but if you do want to get one of these um time is quite literally running out because once they're gone they're gone we will not be selling this design ever again on the channel so yeah nice PC Centric premium quality gaming pad um I'm actually genuinely surprised how good they came out um I must admit I went for quality and uh yeah it worked out but limited time get them pizzacentric.store link is down below Mouse keyboard on the floor I'm still like trembling for my electrical shot now oh I don't know where the receiver is for that I don't think that was the receiver that's there's Pro on it I think that's for the mouse I think you know because I used it earlier I don't think that's the one no they're here I don't know what mouse that is that's for the white mouse okay so do you want to put that inside the mouse please oh geez I say I look at how wide angle that camera that camera is playing with fire boy oh I didn't know I was going to electrocute myself on live stream that's that is an unusual one right are we going to be greeted with loads of RGB oh oh that card looks cool that okay see this makes more sense now suddenly it makes more sense and actually that cable at the top is less of a problem that I thought it was going to be but I would recommend getting a white one that looks good that's pretty bright that looks good oh and if I go over to hdmi4 we've got ourselves a little signal everybody oh it's posted um so we've posted which is good so we know it works it's picked up our memory CPU doesn't say 100 degrees what is it on I think it says 38 so yeah there we go um but that's the rig I think that's cool I think that's really really cool I'm liking that I mean yes it's 27 degrees on the liquid I'm actually pleased with how this has come out after all that mucking about um things I would change I do agree yes this cable is actually too stretched still so I would move that across um to this side um I probably wouldn't use the graphics card Mount but I must confess it's grown on me it does look cool though I think that's that's a good looking GPU and it does obviously oh stick out oh and get the front view as well it's different and unique isn't it this is the thing so if you go to that like you can now see the card and also all of its Glory can you give me some chat um like give me some live chat read the questions the the chat questions as they come out um and I answer them uh what did chat think I I think there are a few too many cables at the bottom for the fans I think daisy chain would look a lot better um GPU Mount once you've actually put it in properly properly yeah um it was a lot of effort but I don't know maybe my mind's changed but then the the temperature thing still I feel like I need annoying but the side panels the uh you have to worry about the rear one but I feel like the top and the front you want to see it properly yeah now it's on it suddenly goes from big white box to it's quite a cool looking heavy heavy it's only going to get heavier with all that glass well the glass itself is heavy um top one not anybody else can see other than me top yeah there you go what do you reckon I mean we need we need to do a peel really um to get the full impact but yeah what do you guys reckon I ignore the film I think we'll probably do like a build in this case at another Point as well yeah um but yeah what do you guys reckon what the comment chat's saying you've been distracted I'm looking at the brightness of the college change I I yeah all right I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap this up by saying I am actually impressed I think the palette GPU yes I I you probably playing a premium for the White Edition but actually yes I really do like that whether you should be paying the premium is a different question that's 40 70 TI it's not the best value anyway you're paying the premium for it and you can let AMD cards but knocked out the park in terms of the design in this case that looks awesome somebody said it does look it does feel a little bit empty does it I see what they mean I mean I would put the graphics card up more element is in I suppose from I guess front to back well don't forget as well if you are actually buying this case chances are you would be putting a custom Loop in this or at least having uh well yeah you'd have double stacked radiators so you would do push pull at the top to have extra fans and you'd probably um I would recommend using lean Lee or corsairs fans anyone that has interlocking fans because it's far too many cables if you're going to have this plus a fan on the back that is three six eleven um plus the 12 ones yeah 13. where'd you get 11 well it says if it's 11 cases the stats 11 fans are standard but then if you push pull it that's another six fans on top oh I see what you mean yeah so if you were just gonna have fans it would be 11 fans um but once you're talking about radiators in this particular config oh yeah if you did push pull you would be losing GPU space so I I don't think you could do you reckon you could push pull and have it like this with this card or would that be not too tall I think so I don't even think you can have a radiator at the bottom to be honest look how close we are yeah oh I assume you mean yeah so you could probably push pull the top or the bottom if you're moving that yeah you'd be a bit limited if you weren't going to have this GPU this exact GPU and this orientation yeah you could make Push Pull work but you'd have to have a much smaller GPU which you probably won't yeah um but yeah I think standard GPU man fans at the side um or if you really want this case to look its absolute best then um you want to do a custom Loop basically custom Loop even soft tubing will look fine but hard line is kind of what this thing is aimed for and then I think yeah you would have something it looks pretty awesome what's chat saying Carl uh they said the case looks good um John Brian said you're gonna need a drink after that case after that build a few markers you need a few strong drinks after that build oh I've got just the stuff I've got some uh some special edition Mount gay rum that uh you can only get from Mount gay 66 I mean not not advocating it yeah yeah the phantix D30 or the lean Lee fans will probably be a good shout they're both dirt all those thermal tape fans also good ones yeah just just just magnetic less cable cables what you want um riftstar summarized as he electrocuted himself diagonally mounted a GPU and then got it to post yep yep sounds about right I look right actually to you it's not it's not diagonally mounted you leave me alone it's not I promise it's not the only way I could tilt it would be up more like I like this this side goes up I'm PR I promise you there is no way that it's mounted incorrectly I'm 100 confident on that that's where the holes line up that's why they give you the holes been mean today yeah no he's been he's been good he's been mean I mean okay well then everybody uh I think that does bring us towards the end of the stream honestly been fantastic fun I'm glad that we had a build that just took a while but works rather than one that took a while because it didn't yeah um one last thing before we go do you want to see the size difference versus the 011 um Evo uh I'm not gonna put them next to each other on the table because that would be far too much weight and it'd be ridiculous this is the last not the last build we did but this is the size of the smallest build that we did last time um can you see yeah that's a big difference smallest PC versus PC and the smallest PC build was with the same i7 um but didn't we put a more powerful GPU in it um which was kind of funny I think it might have done uh the way I'm gonna do a size comparison with the Evo is to get the glass from the Evo and then this will give you the perspective look of just how much bigger this one is so basically Push Pull is what this enables Push Pull and 140 fans really on the bottom that looks really cool without a dark glass yeah if you had white glass with a dark tint look at that that actually does look good yeah usually like a white belt you always have the proper clear and that's usually dark on the black so you can't see inside it it almost makes it look blue and Eerie that's pretty cool oh when it went in the hole there you go but yeah I thought that'd be useful for you anyway um you might be seeing Carl you might have been seen in the glass the reflection no disaster but that gives you um the context anyway of the size difference so it's actually bigger in every single orientation it is wider it is taller um wide at all along there harder Stronger Faster whatever it was thank you so much for watching any last comments chat get him in now thank you so much for watching though we really appreciate it if you do want to see performance numbers by the way of this then I will link you to the 4070 build I think it was actually with an i7 so it will basically be the same performance and we'll link that down below when we remember um but it's called the 4070 TI build are you doing it now I was gonna give it a go okay I'll read chat while you're saying that uh 3 900k okay 3900k okay for Microsoft Flight sim yes that is absolutely fine um black tinted looks nice um wouldn't side fans look better well probably well it's not probably this is a unique orientation to have your graphics card this is why I'm not being too hard on it because while I do think I wouldn't do it I think it's impractical if it's going to affect your temperatures doesn't really make too much logical sense it's not always about logic because people want something that's different that stands out that's what this case is about most people aren't spending 240 pounds on a case and all of the fans and things this is if you want to do something different and uh it's always been a really popular case for that so yeah um it's it's all down to personal preference uh uh and yeah hello to John Brian's the boy done good thank you appreciate that can you help me build my first PC yeah I would look at my build videos because they uh they help and okay right that'll wrap it up thank you so much for watching thank you everybody know yeah thank you to Carl for joining us well um as I say half of the uh the super chats and and revenue um from all the donations we'll be down to car which is nice so what's that is that their Fox their Fox oh yeah fear Fox imagine uh going away to University or by yourself and then having the flu the day you arrive and being here or have no one to care for you that's the situation she was in and what a great note to end the video thank you so much for watching smash the like video like button subscribe if you're not already check out all the other builds lived on the channel thank you and goodbye this is the bit where you've got in the Stream you've got to do it manually but um are We Done Yet yeah

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Length: 197min 55sec (11875 seconds)

Published: Tue Sep 19 2023