Testing DIY Paint Can Stove In Hot Tent

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[Music] [Music] welcome back to shop Talk so a while ago when I first started conceiving the idea of hot tent camping I started with the stove and I wanted a cheap solution to try initially so I found a design on another youtube channel for creating a hot tent stove out of a paint can so I went ahead to build that and I created a video tutorial on how I built that and it's actually my most popular video today but we I don't feel like we we gave it a solid test run I would say the test run I did was more of a burden we didn't have a full-size flue on it so smoke was back backing in on this small little elbow I had on them on the top of the stove over that's gonna change today because I have a hot tent now and we have the paint cans stove in the hot tent so let's see what it can do so here's a little paint can stove here I'm using the titanium flew from my luck's 3w hot tent stove so here's some of the same chunks of wood that I had from my first test run on the hot tent these have been left outside exposed to moist air but I've split them down just a little bit ago smaller I'm hoping they'll take off now that I split them down some of the main challenges I'm finding at winter camping is is finding dry wood or at least dry kindling so what I found that is best as I actually have some pine trees in my backyard here you go in underneath the pine trees and grab some of the dead branches that are at the very bottom up up out of the snow even in rainy conditions that those branches will generally still be dry and that's your best bet for for kindling for starting a fire that's what I have here is some just a one little branch that I broke off the bottom of a pine tree we're gonna break this up into small bits and it should take off like gasoline we have some thicker stuff in the middle so we'll get going on that and we'll transfer to the wood over there and I do have my I do have my thermometer with me it's actually a little bit colder in the tent than it is outside that's kind of strange but we have 34 in and 35 out [Music] so I got my trusty cotton balls in there that I always use I didn't mention it in the original test video for this stove but I I do have chicken wire in the bottom of the stove but I haven't made any any tweaks to the stove I'm thinking given the door so small it's I'm not sure what to do for a draft control on the door I'm thinking I might just use the door just open the door a little bit for draft control close it more I'm not sure I'm still thinking about how I want to handle that one it's still so small that it's tough to load it up without pushing your fire Sturgis all the way back put some bigger stuff on top here so you're curious to see if this is gonna smoke me out of here well here goes nothing see if you get smoke out of this joint I got a bunch more kindling ready to go over here I'll smoke yet jeepers have stuff to Gothel we've got a good draft you definitely drafts just fine with the proper with a flue on it imagine it I still have that plate in there the baffle in there seems to not be causing too many issues [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] I don't have the dampener in the in the flu at all I'm just have this sucker wide open right now and she drafts good holy smokes here that hmm I might I might have to deep my own words on this little stove holy smokes she's cranking I dampen it down a smidge it's definitely producing heat there is no doubt about that I'm gonna have to eat my words on this little stove told people to just just skip it I think I was wrong so we're about a half-hour in on having the stove running here so you can see here you can still see my breath so so we're it's still work-in-progress here I'm still trying to get the stove going I'm learning a lot with using I'm glad I'm testing with wet wood that I've kind of just left out out in the elements I've learned you have to split it down and even that I'm finding isn't quite enough it'll burn when she split it but it's not going to burn very hot so if you can get some dry kindling like up underneath the pine tree or something that's gonna definitely get you going and it allows you to start at least burning some of this wood then you have to get your procedure up and running for drying out the wood so here I have wood that was like pretty dang wet I got it sitting on top of the stove here drawing out so as I can just put dry wood in and take wet wood out put it back on top and I kind of put it down the bottom first and it makes its way to the top and then it goes into the stove that's kind of the procedure here and and it's starting to warm up in here now it's dumping out quite a bit of heat and in my first test I had mentioned that the that the door had warped and popped out I'm thinking I might have just not had it's had it's eating right cuz before I came out here I took a hammer and I I pounded this lid in nice and tight and it's it hasn't popped back out on me so so I'm just kind of chillaxing in here and letting it kind of warm up I did have it up to 45 degrees in here which is about 10 degrees warmer than outside I would like to see like a I'd be super happy if I got like a 60 60 or 65 degrees in here that'd be pretty epic as long if I can get this wood to start drying out we'll be in good shape and I think that might be possible I'm actually pretty happy with this little pink hand stove so far I wanted to show you guys another stove that I built here I don't plan to ever use this stove and I'll explain why here shortly but first let's go over some of the features here got a spring loaded raft control here on the front to open that all the way up or you can tighten the tension from the front of the stove two dead bolts up front to keep the door closed dead bolts on top and bottom in case the door warps I can always keep it shot even if it's warped so we open up the stove you're not sure if you guys can see inside or not but on there's a decent sized baffle up there and I could put intakes up top here that would feed the secondary combustion up top I'll put a diagram up right now that explains how of this stoves operating internally so here's how I plan to do the legs I've seen a lot of designs where there was just a u-shaped leg that would fold I would fold under I wanted to go with a simpler lighter design essentially what I did here was I I bent up some some sheet metal here and put a aluminum angle iron in here and there's a rivet right here that that angle iron hits and it fits nice and tight in here and I saw there's just a leg that would come out to right here and then they could pop inside the stove I just wanted to test myself and see if I could you know come up with a different leg design and he could see I never finished it because I decided to not use it so the main reason I decided not to use this particular stove is mainly because it's made entirely out of galvanized metal and galvanized metal can be harmful if it gets hot enough and starts really seeing metal oxide fumes you can get it's called metal fume fever which is really similar to the flu so there's debate as to whether or not a stove could actually get hot enough to release those vapors but I just didn't want to take the chance I'm not here to relax I don't want to worry if my stove is poisoning me so I decided to to to pony up the dough and get the titanium stove and I'm happy I did because cuz I it's light and it's got the glass door in the front I like being able to see what's going on in the stove and watch the stove glow so but I want to show this to you guys I thought it was kind of cool I'm kind of proud of it but we'll never end up using it so what an hour into the burn here or about ten degrees warmer in the tent than outside and as you can see the humidity is came down a lot that's one thing I'm surprised at with hot tent camping especially in the floor last year got snow right in here I thought it was gonna be a slushy mess in these tents when you're out here and you fire up a stove but that just isn't the case because the the snow kind of insulates and and doesn't turn into slush it just kind of compacts down and the stove is a very efficient dehumidifier it's so it sucks all the moisture out of it out of here pretty quickly so stove is just getting rolling again I'm still trying to dial in my skills for using wet wood when when when using a stove if I had drive dry wood I mean I think it would be like 80 degrees in here but this this wet wood is just kind of a bear to to keep it rolling but I'm starting to figure it out trying to figure out the process for drying it out so if I do actually end up bringing this on a trip with me I might make another bottom and leave and leave a solid not cut out this center part because the what I'm trying to dry is touching that was touching the snow and I didn't realize it and it's getting wet and so I dry out one side I flip it over and it touches of the wet snow and gets wet again that's why you see these wood chunks of wood underneath here so if you do decide to build one of these which it's man it it's doing a pretty good job of I'm actually pretty impressed I would leave I would leave this core core inside here it gives you a nice dry spot to dry wood so my gloves are starting to dry off pretty nicely here so what I have I do actually have a you know a kind of a spendy or flu on here it's a titanium flue that came with my 3w stove I was actually just sitting here doing some research and I found that you can um buy a titanium flew from seek outside for about a hundred and twenty two dollars for the length of link that I have think I have a seven seven and a half foot flu here so you get that for about a hundred and twenty five dollars from them and then this this still cost me about twenty five dollars to build so about 150 bucks you could have a pretty nice hot tent set up you just have to figure out what you want to do here for your dampener control they wouldn't come with that so I mean that looks like something you could almost make make yourself if you really wanted to lose your just rivets we're on the outside and you just cut a little slits in there for for your dampener and then there's a spark arrestor just below there if you can see it there look at that draught that log is hanging out of the stove and can't even still not even getting smoke in the tent still struggling with this wood though I can't get it / 46° in here it seems to be the max it's about 35 degrees outside still but it's comfortable in here just be easy sleeping so not exactly sure why this works but I just closed the door almost all the way left it just crack just a little bit and this thing just started ripping I'm not sure what the science is behind that maybe it's containing the heat more but this thing just took off all of a sudden so I was thinking out it you'd have to leave the door open to keep it cranking cranking really hard but I'm finding that I'm just leaving the door cracked just a little bit really really makes this thing burn real hot so you can see this wood on top here's now burning this sweet but I'm thinking the key to this the reason this thing rips so good when I close the door and leave it open just a little bit is these little holes that I have here by mistake I think air comes flying in through those holes and just feeds the fire just at the right angle and just it just destroyed two pieces of wood and like a minute and a half just ate it this thing was just radiating heat but so I'm starting to get it figured out but I can't I still can't keep it the momentum going that I'm getting it figured out and mostly I'm just getting figured out I don't use wet wood so as far as pros and cons between between these two stoves so like this as seen here what probably cost you about $125 if you went with a titanium flue I'm sorry $150 with the titanium flue $400 all said and done so this this folds down really really small I got like the glass window you can also cook on top of this be difficult to figure out a way to cook on top of that probably not insurmountable but with this design you can't cook on it the weight here is I think this is like half the weight excluding the flue and on this stove you have a lot more control for the dampening I mean if you're gonna do this a lot I would if you know you're gonna hot 10th a lot I would I would pointing up the dough and just get the titanium stove it's just lightweight you can fit it in a pack this is gonna be tougher to pack you can take these legs out and fit it in your slide and won't take up a ton of space but but this you could fit in a backpack this would kind of be a waste of space in a backpack just due to its shape but but this definitely is it's a much more viable option than than I had originally anticipated during during my burnin slash test and um I actually haven't made any changes to it and this thing is is doing really really well so all those issues I was having during my my testing in the fall was due to just I didn't have a the full-size flue on there so wind was getting in and smoke was coming out the other direction and but this Bacon's toughest totally seems totally valuable to me can get dry wood so we're at 44 degrees in here now it's dropping a little bit so I put more wood in it and dye this down so still figuring out that whole deal out well we're at at about the two hour mark and I'm thinking that this stove would be a viable option for someone that's looking to save some money if you want don't want if you don't need to cook on something you just want something to maybe dry out some clothes dry out some socks the gloves just the psychological bump that comes with having a fire and a stove but you don't want to spend a ton of money I think this would be a good option for you I'm purposefully using wet wood to just kind of do worst-case scenarios and just kind of get better with a stove and I I definitely still need some practice with the Stokes I'm still still have these ups and downs with this stove where it's like I'm starting to get things cranked and looking good then all of a sudden everything just bogs down and I lose all the other momentum I gained so more practices needed did do another test tonight here pretty soon I got to order some things I I've identified all I think my final load out here and I'll be sharing that in a future video finished my pork slide that's another video that's coming really soon we're going to take the bulk slide out and I'm going to show you that well I hope that helps you separate the signal from the noise as far as DIY stoves go and specifically the paint cans still by showed you guys how to make so thanks for coming along catch you later [Music] [Music] [Music]
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Channel: Signal Outdoors
Views: 9,461
Rating: 5 out of 5
Keywords: Signal Outdoors, Hot Tent, Hot Tent Stove, DIY Hot Tent Stove, Paint Can Stove, Winter Camping, Cold Weather Camping, Hot Tent Camping, Wood Stove, Camping, Luxe, Luxe Mega Horn
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Length: 23min 41sec (1421 seconds)
Published: Sun Feb 02 2020
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