TBGP #404 Baldurs Gate A Classic, Starfield, Red Dead Discussion, and Who Speaks for Gamers

what's up everybody this is Eric with ACG and I'm here with Johnny and absy for the best gaming podcast hopefully our audio is pretty level across the board if you have to turn us up a little bit or turn us down a little bit I apologize trying to do some new setup here at the house so that I can get some different videos created um it'll probably not pan out like always I'm always like I'm gonna do this thing and then it doesn't work I'm like God damn it but I'm gonna try try and tap the battle as I said in the atlas review um and we're going to talk about Atlas as well we're definitely going to talk about Atlas fall and did either when you guys get it no but I've been looking forward to it for a while I just uh I don't know man I don't know I'm on the fence about it now on the fence that's a good place to do yeah I think I'm gonna do Remnant 2 if anything um as perhaps like multiplayer multiplayer game because I haven't touched that yet yeah that game is sweet what about you Johnny are you doing any Atlas falling you're doing Remnant still no I'm I'm just doing Baldur's uh focusing on that before star field comes out yeah dude there's a lot of big games it takes me a long time dude like 100 hours or something dude I'm I'm 60 hours in I just got to act two yeah 60 hours and yeah I re I I just uh yeah take my time so uh it's gonna it's gonna remember our discussion and yes everybody I do have a little bit of a Shiner did get popped in practice uh yeah we talked about this with atomic heart where you and I were laughing because like it was three or four hours like 25 hours for some people yeah maybe not three or four hours but it was like eight and we were at like 30 and we were still you know three-fourths in the way through it wasn't even yeah I wasn't even halfway done and I was at like 30. yeah the DLC popped for that too the D the yeah it's it's middling it's got some really good uh settings and locations it's a little linear and as somebody else pointed out there aren't as many new and new Cree Creations you might be hoping for but overall I still I'm pretty fine with it Jeffrey with ten dollar Super Chat thanks for the content thank you very much I appreciate it evening everybody or morning or mid-afternoon depends on where you are what time speaking of that it's 10 30 for me what is it for you guys 8 30 P.M Johnny and 6 30 p.m there we go okay so we'll try to get through it uh without doing a Johnny Jeremy podcast like last week what was that like five hours that went wild man we went some weird places yeah you and me and you and absy or and me and absy have had by far the longest podcasts it's been insane we were just going to Ai and random we were doing Ai and then Johnny and I were talking about ghosts and [ __ ] Bigfoot UFO and it was just like okay it was great oh by the way one of the highest viewed podcasts we've ever had like which funny because people might say that end is what caused people to watch it that's not they have to get through it to get to it so the retention is insane I looked at it I normally don't look at the podcast stuff because it doesn't do as well but the number of views were high and then I actually for the first time a long time saw people sharing it podcasts are so hard to share now because everybody's got them even we've talked about it or I try to tell you guys about a podcast and you're like what am I gonna do I'm gonna add another podcast yeah how am I gonna add another one to my to my slate of stuff covered so thank you everybody for showing up this is the best gaming podcast tweeted out to your friends if you are able to or on Twitter let's jump into the first bit of discussion which is let's cover Atlas Fallen first so okay it got middling reviews and I would personally say those are pretty right the combat put it slightly over the edge as well as a cheaper price once again price does matter in game reviews and I stated it very clearly I was like of course I'll die on this [ __ ] Hill that's the foundation of what you're rating yeah it's like that's what it cost me so I'm going to rate it for like what it delivers but man the combat is good it's so stupid because the car I'm not saying it's Platinum good but there were times where I thought of near automata when I was playing like yeah yeah because it looks Jank man it looks like from just looking at it it is I mean technically but I mean I've seen that before like okay so the combat is not Jank no the combat is loose dude the combat is like ESP loose where so for example I would an enemy to hit me and sometimes it'll hit you in a game and you're like that didn't hit me dude I was hitting them going I whiffed that I didn't hit them so so I was okay with that it was happening to me and the hitboxes seemed off for them sometimes so I was like you know what as Loose as this is but I got to tell you guys if you saw the first Transformers win [ __ ] one of the Transformers comes up out of the sand yeah it's exploding that moment has replicated so many times and I got to tell you an atlas Fallen when one of those comes out and there's just like sand I was like this yeah no sand worms but you have like crabs well you do have sand worms sand dragons like big sound like the ones that burrow Under the Sun and come out yeah you do have those yeah yeah I guess you do I I didn't think about it but yeah you do have those um combats great gauntlets 10 times better he's like a natural conduit for installation did you like the um it wasn't called tenacity uh more momentum was it called momentum did you like that mechanic yeah yeah you know it I didn't love it but it didn't get in the way like when I attacked I was I was like oh I could possibly take more damage but I was spending momentum so fast that if there was gonna be a position where I got hit because my momentum was high it was probably because I just didn't hit the mo whatever action I wanted to take as quickly um I did the passives for the first two parts of the bar passive just you know strength the first passive damage passive armor and then after that I did some quick attacks pretty difficulty wise between Surge and the normal action combat game way towards normal action combat not even okay a million they don't hit like a truck and you die in like two hits or something no no no there was a couple bosses that I like there's one boss that I just I don't know what was going on I was just like oh my God I'm smashing my head against him I beat him but it was like 10 fights versus 150 and Neo ones you know where like I wasn't prepared and I was like oh my God yeah it was good I mean it was good in a good sense but it's got all the Jank you see every bit of James you see flying annoying flying creatures I think yes I don't know I've dude remember when you tried to jump in Final Fantasy VII remake and because there were airing because there's a lot of air enemies the same thing happens this guy with you but you can jump but they're so high sometimes and then the camera will be like I gotta show them the enemy and you're like oh God I'm gonna vomit yeah it that definitely that definitely happened but once you get up there dude you can stay in the air forever because you can when you hit it resets a bunch of stuff and then I was right you can sort of jump off enemies and then you get three or four Dodge bursts so pretty soon you're like Dodge Dodge any sir it's like uh you're juggling yourself in the air with a lot of attacks instead of juggling anime yeah yeah and then if you have momentum so let's say you jump and attack then you do momentum then it resets everything or some stuff so like pretty soon you're in the air just like and a new enemy I believe a new enemy might reset it because there were like four or five flying guys and be like bang bang bang and then go over here bang bang and I would stay up how's the combo potential it's not about combos it's about building to doing your abilities yeah it's more cooldown based ish well cool up because you're building pull up yeah so it's more what would you like build up based yeah and that is different but yeah the combos are like xxy hold y uh hold down no directional inputs and no no no it's not no but there's so many jewels that you could have absolutely yeah yeah what what are we going to say sorry I was gonna say I noticed two things looking at your review and uh there's one is it seems when you kill one of the limbs or several of the limbs it doesn't really change what the boss is able to do no it does because oh does it yeah yeah yeah they pull off okay so they have a berserk mode I guess is what you would say and so some of the bosses it depends on the boss but some bosses and normal some just bigger enemies in the game world if you do they pull they can pull off completely different moves if you're on the medium and higher difficulties if somebody played it on easy they don't but what I was thinking is because what I would expect is if I destroy an arm I would expect that the guy to not be able to hit me with the arm does that make sense yeah is that sort of does that happen or is it different um it would be more along the lines of a guy as incredibly armored and you're beating his armor off so you can still hit that arm as a bot as a base body hit but it doesn't do any more like specific limb damage but what they do do is they switch up their moves and you'll start to see them pulling off specials um Rampage moves is what I call them but you'll see them one of the guys has a sweet one that pops up but I saw a lot of people playing it on easy and which by I'm not saying it's just because we brought it up but I saw a lot of reviews where it was on easy and that would have less reactions than so you know depends on what you're playing yeah and the other thing I noticed real quick is some sometimes the attacks from you seem a bit slow because I was looking like you know the enemies would attack you pretty quickly but your attacks kind of have a wind-up to him don't they um heavy weapon yeah it depends on what you're using Johnny okay and I I do know that some people weren't showing some items because they haven't been as open about weapons as they were about the jewels so a good reviewer will try to talk about it but maybe not show it to spoiler it and I saw a lot of people trying not to spoiler some stuff at least visually did you feel like for me just watching it on YouTube I there's there's an the impact on you hitting an enemy doesn't seem that satisfying but I don't know if it is when you're actually playing it yeah yeah no I would agree with that I mean it was satisfying is different for different games but you don't get this like so to build up momentum think about it this way if you tried to build up momentum the enemy kept stun ranging out of your spot then you couldn't build up momentum though you have to the developer has to figure out a way to make it look like they got hit but also not remove them from you to building moment and that's one of the things I talked to a reviewer about who actually put it in his review because we were talking he was like dude they don't move back they just shudder a little bit I'm like well if they did move back the entire momentum system would be broken he was like oh my God like I get hit like I and by the way that's not like something brand new I picked up from talking to a Game Dev or another reviewer who randomly will mention it and I'll be looking at a game going oh I get it but yeah I would say it doesn't look here's the thing it's a b-level game at a B level price yeah sound effects were okay um I will say this if the pop-up was fixed that game would have rated higher because it is so egregious it is like a reverse shooting range just constantly [ __ ] flipping back up so instead of shooting a range Target down it's just everywhere you go everywhere and it's not a radius around you it's not an LOD situation it's LOD as the game it's just gonna have everywhere you go there's something popping up in your way and it's that's that's really bad hey Johnny can you mute if you're typing because that's coming across something that's all right I just don't want to get complaint um so so that's one of the things that's popped up but overall I would say the scores are about right it'd be a little bit higher if it was technically proficient which uh because there are parts that look amazing amazing Lighting in some locations but you got to have good performance and pop in is an old style problem man like right performance was fine performance was fine yeah it wasn't amazing there were some drops I had you know but that depends on your CPU your GPU I will say I found out something weird and then somebody else covered it but I was so nervous about saying it and being like this is just my system or something and I tried to test it and it always came up correct on my system but you never quite know it doesn't use your CPU and GPU as much as it should so when I was playing I was like 60 sometimes and I wasn't getting bad frames I was just low CPU and GPU usage and I was like interesting it's still getting the the FPS that's more acceptable than Remnant too but then later I went and looked and found out oh yeah looks like other people had found that too so oh okay yeah it's just one of those things let's move on from there and start talking about uh some more Baldur's Gates so how many hours do you guys have in boulders I'm at exactly 62.8 hours right now 62.7 62 points 36. 36 hours all right so so real quick Johnny what's that seems low for you with a weekend between conversations uh was that just uh you were busy so while in the weekend I was also finishing Final Fantasy 16. and uh but and then just work during the week right it's been a lot so yeah so just didn't get a chance to jump in and then absy was gone on vacation got to play a bunch 60 hours and you said you're not in three yet you're not in act three I just got to act two I've been in act two for two hours so it took me 60 around 60 hours to be um act one I think two or three of those hours was me making a character in My Friends game and we were just Lord of the Rings characters um but yeah 60 hours to be act one I'm trying I'm I'm not a lot of people uh I've seen were like oh it takes this much you clear you know you can clear this map and this and and uh I'm not I'm not necessarily just like trying to clear everything you know what I mean I'm not like playing a hundred percent type thing um I just uh it's just kind of taking me and and you know directions I'm just kind of going with it um and I guess I'm just talking to a lot of people and reading a lot of lore stuff uh I I guess I I just take a long time and games yeah I would say the average would take you like around 20 to 30 hours for act one yeah uh one of the conversations I saw was like people were saying people are saying they went to a spot and said this area will be bitterly difficult for you for your team I don't remember a place I entered that didn't say that and I did fine so whatever their worry was when this warning came up it didn't hit me I would go into it anyway and be like you know some of the battles would be a little bit harder or whatever but I was talking to a guy last night on Discord who said like he had one battle that was like two hours long and I I mean I didn't have anything near that God damn yeah even on the massive battle that I use for testing the video card in the graphics uh performance wasn't it was like 15 16 people 24 people I can't remember but it didn't last two hours I mean it lasted a long time I guess that depends on like the person's build and and what is yeah yeah if they have a chip defensive build of some kind you know or if they don't learn to over utilize shove dude when I learned how to shove somebody into position to attack that changed my entire so you move through enemies and they have that attack of opportunity and I was so tired of getting that so I started learning to shove the guys that were going to take the next turn into the center so that way they didn't get attacked for attacks so I would just land near one of my friends and be like see a [ __ ] and push him into the enemies not have to worry about the attacks of opportunity and he'd just stand up and you'd still be able to take half of your turn and that in combination with the jump is super powerful because if you get strength like my fighter dude he can jump like an athlete like it's insane right in the middle of stuff shove and like get five attacks or something when you get that double attack it's great when you get that secondary attack on your on your character yeah right or something yeah oh you're like here we go baby because I did two weapon attacks or I did two you know a weapon in each hand then I took one of the skills that lets you use a larger weapon in each hand then I took the extra attack and by that point you're just like flailing and throw in all these different moves oh feels so good I had a uh I just recently got a ring on my high strength uh person which adds a 1d8 or 1d6 damage to when you shove people or when you when people drop from you whether it's shelving or yeah whether it's shoving oh my God whether it should be throwing is awesome man yeah dude throwing [ __ ] gnomes or throwing like a goblin at like another enemy and you know especially if you you're in Berserker stance or whatever and they just prone and I was telling Johnny you can also if you get a guy who says too big to shove if you take an enlarged spell you go up a level and who you can shove and pick up oh it's nice yeah and you'll be like not for long [ __ ] I'm HGH in this and then pretty soon and it's just like all the things they thought of well admittedly this is all d d rules so some of this stuff they didn't have to think of they had to implement it and they did a good job at implementing everything and and that includes the RP part the role-playing part the true like D and D we're a party what do you want to do who do you want to talk to Parts they did a really good job one one thing I um always complain about about RPGs is when they present you with a dialogue choice but you have to just exhaust every question to get to the one that like continues it it doesn't do that here man you just uh you can get like four questions you ask one of them and it just moves the conversation forward and yeah I really like that I love that yeah they did a very good job with uh how they put it all together PI says and thanks for the super chats peeps I'll read them in a second p p l p i says Hey Carrick as a YouTuber do you ever feel the videos have a short life cycle for example would you say there's little to no way to push older videos yeah I've talked about that uh not only in personal videos uh and Patron stuff but also occasionally in at the end of a review or whatever reviews have no Half-Life the only time I see a bump in a review is a sale on Gog or Steam and I'll be like why is everybody coming to this old and ancient review and then it'll be like oh it's a remake or oh it's but it makes sense it's not even a billionth what I have noticed is people will get confused if you do a preview so if you do a preview and then you do the review now I've started to unlist the preview because people will push views into the preview and then you'll just get complaints because they weren't reading it's their fault but you still get a bunch of complaints or whatever it's like all right you know that's the dumbest thing ever yeah yeah dude yeah um I let's see how do you guys think the console experience is going to be oh PS5 and Xbox um I don't see anything in this game that looks difficult for a PC foreign and by the way I should say I was I was wrong in my prediction that when we talked about how buggy is the game going to be my prediction was that it was barely gonna be held together yeah uh but actually for I mean for me at least very few bugs have run into shortly some but honestly very solid I agree on what I thought yeah me too I thought whole interactions were gonna get [ __ ] but I I do get bugs like I I I see bugs once every hour or so one no hour once every couple hours maybe like sometimes especially if you're talking to the dead corpse if you're talking about corpse oh that makes sense yeah something yeah something weird um I think I met a person that was invisible I just reloaded and it fixed but the most annoying one that I have right now is there's a permanent exclamation mark over Will's head so you know the exclamation mark where it's like your companion you know what I think I had that where or as I don't know if you saw it I talked to him and he wouldn't say anything right and if you try to sleep it still says you have somebody in party who wants to talk to you is that yeah yeah me too I did get that I did and I just to be honest thought it was me and that I wasn't tracking but then I saw um uh who's the guy from Germany he's in our uh he's a big D fan oh Jesus it's skipping me but um in our Discord there's a guy there who was having it for sure he's like just tell me who it is that wants to talk because it's not this guy because because he uh because it popped up right after I read a note about something related to him um but then I I kind of traveled a little bit down but it was still there and then and then I talked to him and it didn't trigger it I don't know what it was um yeah I submitted a bug report um how does it work on controller gorgeous man uh dude I played I mean I didn't mind the keep mouse and keyboard but I played that in 99 well maybe you know what I like about maybe 80. dude you can play it like Dragon Age you just zoom in and then you move with your four pillars of Eternity too yeah yeah it's just like a third person though yeah it works it works really well man it works really well with uh with with the controller I think overall the consoles you know we know that the S has a memory issue with them splitting up worlds which by the way every game that splits up worlds has issues Gotham Knight had issues with FPS so they dropped it to 30. so it's like we know what the we know that those games have issues um I personally don't think it's doing anything that's that stunning and I will also say all of these developers who are putting out all of these touchy-feely tweets about don't expect Baldur's Gate level of blah blah to be in every game this is not being rude to Baldur's Gate but it's not the technical achievement in Boulder's Gate at all it's that they've got things working together and any Dev it has the possibility of that it that what I saw is nothing that made me go oh I get it I think it's just no women resources type of thing and skill I mean that's the thing nobody wants to talk about it but like some musicians will do music for years and somebody will finally tell them you're not going to be a maestro it's not you're you're not a free thinking you're not as free thinking maybe you have to write your stuff down maybe this person is able to do it just freehand you're not that some developers don't have the skill to do it and but I think some do what I saw guys I saw what's Celesta is that the other d d game Celeste no it's like Celeste it's Celestia so last year but then you got that and you also have the other one the Pathfinder one and I gotta tell you other than the three yeah other than the 3D constant discussions which those are 3D models anyway in those games they just don't zoom in I wasn't like oh this can't be can't be done it was more like for me it was more like yeah for me it was like oh now actual cutscenes are in a crpg that's it wasn't like oh how could it they have done it yeah yeah because usually crpgs I guess don't have or don't um they don't they don't put too much money yeah yeah but they don't they don't have high enough budgets for for or the bugs usually crpg is niche as [ __ ] right yeah or the bugs so you talked about the t-pose when you have a dead character and you're talking to them that character in the engine is dead so you have to figure out do you have a state that's like 0.5 one is life zeros T pose 0.5 is what do they do they hang like sort of like they're held up by spirits so that kind of stuff you know a lot of devs look at it and like that's a Next Step maybe we don't want to hit but now that we've seen Baldur's Gate maybe you do like because I don't have any issue with Pathfinders writing or the other one the Celestia or whatever that one's writing is pretty good too so it's like what would we be seeing if those were you know if those were at this level I I personally even pillars which was a Kickstarter had a ton of choice and reactivity a lot of choices yeah yeah more than the original Boulders get yeah yeah yeah um let's see uh did you get your Gold Award from YouTube listen to this man it took me over a year to get the silver it took me two days to get the gold one damn yeah coming up all Aces there I have no clue what's going on I'm just expecting the other shoe to fall and we'll get kicked off YouTube like I legitimately have a plan for if we get kicked off YouTube because well you just can't trust anything that goes on with any of the streaming services um it looks like a lot of people here have been playing Baldur's Gate and not a lot of bugs I'm not seeing a lot of uh nice tan absy luciton says lewiston's got a thing for you I think he brings it up every podcast yeah he said and I stand last time as well I think so I think he's got a little uh Jagger says are you going to get review code for Starfield I mean they hate him now no they made the grave mistake I made a mistake yeah I don't think I don't think I will and I'm and I'm okay with that like I it just it's just like the rest of us yeah absolutely right about the podcast sharing it so hard to sell someone on a new podcast yeah it's dude I podcasts that are so good that I listen to and I'll get so excited and your excitement's you know excitement can be contagious but contagion if the person can't add any more to their current slate it's like I bet you you're right I bet you you're not lying it probably is great but I don't have any more time like it's just it's four hours is four hours is four hours right it's almost like buying two games at the same time you can't play them both at the same time so true yeah um I did a little post I want to read some of the responses so I did a post in the um Twitter about what games people are getting and I think this is quite Illuminating I did two of these but we're gonna cover the first one I said what is the next big game that you think you're gonna get and Starfield majority like obviously I think everybody expected that um Spiderman next but armored Core was close and Alan Wake was low which disturbs me yeah when is Ellen wicker released October oh oh that's why because it wouldn't be their next one no no I'm sorry I said are one of these your next big game purchase it so you could say that I don't think it was I think their next big game purchase is I mean you could say it that it was written like that but most people I saw were not getting Alan Wake they just they talked about it in their responses so that is true I'll make sure to somehow clarify that next time but um I just the Allen wake really low and we saw it with one it didn't sell well remaster didn't sell well remastered sales and made money from what I understand so I mean it could be an outriders thing where it's just Square lines it's a massive competition yeah you mean in October or do you mean as a game uh well in that list and well and when is uh because alone in the dark is also October it's like five days away I think Spiderman when a Spiderman October October that too okay yeah well yeah the I mean the year is packed yeah dude yeah no [ __ ] yeah is there anything November in December oh yeah I'm gonna go to those in a second too because I did another I did another one but uh and looking in here armored Core did pretty well the the thing about armored Core is there's just a lot of I I can't tell how high the actual desire is but there's a lot of armored Core fans that are happy to see a sequel what surprised me is this Spider-Man stuff I'm hearing a lot of down talk about it and I'm like I'm sorry guys I don't see it like I I think I mean despite they know what they're doing like if they drop the ball in Spider-Man there's a huge there's a larger issue I think that's like a it's like a premature win it's a God of War right where it's like oh this is it is but it seems like a premature loss now I'm just seeing a lot of negativity towards Spider-Man too and it's not just the graphics because I personally think Spider-Man 1 was so good looking that it's hard to like upgrade that much yeah unless you change Technologies but yeah I was just surprised by it then the other one oh by the way um I do have to give a shout out to Bibles who guessed my uh little hint about Quake being released I did a tweet on the 31st because I don't know if you guys song with a Q yeah no it's spelled out Quake It was I it was talking about Skyrim and I said quite surprised to see Oblivion trending unusual title for remake and that was not the Remake I expected to see discussed killing more mobs and Oblivion will be fun everyone can join in and I was like nobody's gonna guess that I'll just be able to later say hey here's my quake and [ __ ] in like in the Discord somebody's like in the last tweet about remakes your sentence spells the word Quake I see you I was like because you did that before before I don't remember doing it maybe I did but I was just like damn that guy's looking um but looking at the next question I did are you getting one of these big games as a side piece title the choices were alone in the dark Assassin's Creed Mirage Lords of the Fallen Immortals of avium don't look what do you guys think is the highest can you repeat it alone in the dark Assassin's Creed Lords of the fallen and Immortals of avium what do you think's the first one again alone in the dark God damn it well it is hard to remember a list so alone in the dark Assassin's Creed Lords of the Fallen Assassin's Creed is probably the highest okay Lords of the Fallen I'd say maybe Lords of the Fallen it's close Assassin's Creed did win okay not by the landslide I expected it was 45 with 34 being Lords of the Fallen alone in the dark which I'm so excited to see it score this High it got almost 14 Immortals as if [ __ ] 5.7 wow yikes yeah Immortals delay may have heard it more than if it had stuck in that time frame and maybe had whatever issues it had we'll have to see but it's there's so many games all by by the way all those games have I didn't even add another group of five games those four games and the other five in the other tweet that's nine games and I didn't get to include Forza which is also going to sell like hotcakes just because it's Forza it's ridiculous man it's so packed with games like I don't even know how people are gonna have time to play a tenth of them especially with some of those probably gonna be I would assume while Mirage is 40 right 30 to 40 hours I wonder what Lords of the Fallen will be I think they said 30. so that's 60 hours of gaming like I just don't know if people have time for it and I don't know how long Immortals is but yeah I didn't even get to put I didn't even get to put Forza in the other one I thought I did but I guess I didn't um is there any other games on there that are coming up that you guys that I've missed no I think my next one I'm looking forward to armored course star field those are like my top two armor foreign yeah I would say for me it's Alan Wake and Starfield um Spider-Man 2 is a get for sure like it's a it's an odd I'm gonna get it no matter like to review it but I would play it no matter what because I I did like the the first two did you both you guys do miles yeah no uh I will do it before two comes out I have a gotcha what did you think of Miles Johnny do you remember I thought it was a bit too short for a full price game I think it was full price it could be wrong but um or 60 60 yeah I think it was initially full price but uh but I I loved it I liked what they did with the powers I think it's now actually a bit hard to go back to the basic Spider-Man in a way yeah because I like the powers a lot from Miles yeah so I will I think that's the way they're getting around it now is they're saying oh there's Venom so now you know you have venom Powers right so that balances the the field between Peter and um and Miles yeah yeah and it would change up in two with that too go ahead my little brother loved it though he beat it like five six times damn really yeah well miles controls are uh sorry miles uh powers are awesome I mean they they are really they're it's really cool I tried to while he was playing I took the controller a little bit and and [ __ ] around and uh had some really cool [ __ ] like you can bring up enemies with you up in the air and then slam them down on the ground yeah they got some cool stuff for Miles um uh Super Chat love the game 97 10 year old Super Chat thank you for the super chats they hope the channel finally made it to the damn stream and they'll listen every week on Spotify and I must ask do you think that we will see too realistic of Gore in the Next Generation well you got the UN on camera game what was it called on record game yeah that looks real right yeah yeah because remember that everybody thought that was right yeah that striked up a conversation between people about ethical like if playing it is ethical and [ __ ] like that or if it needs to be under heavy scrutiny or something because it looks so real uh yeah I mean yeah that's a conversation that like I don't know sometimes I think it's just conversation journalists do to make big yeah I don't give a [ __ ] about that because I all I ever see in our conversations in like if forums that I run Reddit and here is that people are like oh that looks real that's amazing where technology went and then websites will be like should we all discuss should we sit down and have a round table and you're like you still know it's a game man I don't know it's I played a lot of violent games when I was a kid and it didn't affect me and I don't see what I do see is my reaction might be different which I'm okay with that doesn't mean there needs to be a moral discussion but when I went first person in GTA 5 the first time and I've knocked somebody out I remember going oh that hit different than the third person detached view so yeah that it definitely the same thing that happens in the movies like Tarantino gets asked all the time where it's like oh you're too violent do you think kids watching it are gonna go up and try these things do they have a desire to do it it's like you always got the gaming movies you know a lot of [ __ ] some of it's I mean I don't know about you guys but I think maybe not some of it I think a lot of it's parenting too parents need to have it my parents had discussions about what was real and what what wasn't yeah and I just um there's a lot of things in gaming and everywhere in the in the marketplace where um people bring up the just I I find the the most boring argument to bring up is oh what about the children there's always going to be that same argument about anything you release it's like oh what about the children it's like [ __ ] man I'm so sick of this argument being brought up over and over whether it's gambling whether it's loot boxes whether it's um movies or [ __ ] GTA you know what I mean there's always going to be one person saying oh what about the children yeah and uh we already know what about the children it's their parents responsibility because they're not they're not conscious enough to lead their own life I had somebody who was all over micros one time which by the way you can be all over them but for a really weird reason which was it is possible for somebody to steal the credit card and buy micros and I was like listen if a kid's stealing a credit card the best thing a child can buy is microtransactions because I'm going to tell you if I was up enough to steal my parents credit card I'd be buying some nefarious [ __ ] and it wouldn't be microtransactions like there it requires a second thought but nobody wants to do that they just want to say point point and pretend like with guns outside there's like [ __ ] drugs there's everything you possibly think of that you can say what about the children so if a kid buys a a like a new Cape I would consider myself insanely lucky as a parent like insanely lucky if they if they bought a cape versus you know some smack off the side of the road um yeah it's a different conversation we're going to talk about something that's starting to insanely bother me here in a second and maybe it's just me Johnny do you have anything to say about realism in games no not really uh I think I'm all for it I think that there is a balance of what you show and the more realistic something is the less you're able to detach from what you're looking at for example Borderlands I think works so well because the cell shaded cartoony aspect makes you detach from the just it's not like you get immersed yeah yeah exactly so if you were playing a game where you were a serial killer and you're running around murdering people and it was like ultra realistic yeah you know I could see that being very disturbing for people oh yeah and I agree with you I think the disturbing part is good in some games and not good in others and it's okay and you know what you're buying into Resident Evil is going to show bowels hatred's gonna show yeah this crazy violence it's like then the consumer can say man I don't want that in my game like it's fine yeah Callisto protocol got very in your face with a lot of violence true I mean that was the major selling point and I would say the big problem isn't the violence is selling it is the only part of the game that matters like that and that was causing those problems behind my coaches micros or just being like this is our thing and you're like what about the gameplay itself like if do I want to see the next bit of violence you're gonna have to make sure your gameplay in between makes sense but again people just don't that's it's like the conversations have become more tight so people can drop the mic saying something that sounds like it matters but then when you listen you're like dude that Lit that legitimately doesn't make sense like as a conversation piece yeah so really sad um I wonder what they're going to give Peter after Venom um miles has a Teleport that's hard to beat yeah you know the big thing I think for a lot of us interest for Spider-Man comes into the mixing of those two and who's gonna get what because we know Spider-Man's you know got his Venom [ __ ] Spiderman Spiderman you know yeah uh Justin will Watkins 10 super chat again thank you very much man those are those are super helpful and the violence of video games movies I personally believe that 99 of people can tell the difference between real world violence and entertainment but it's an easy target yeah yeah I see a violent video on Reddit it's completely different than any single piece of media I've seen about violence Carlos says I'll continue this on Spotify it's 2 A.M here congratulations Carrick for the 1 million thank you very much man not only one million but I think we've grown by like 60 000 just in the last month thanks Tom thanks to you know who who helped me he's watching I saw his name possum gold no no somebody help me with identifying some just little changes to the videos I needed to do and he's been like this guy I mean he doesn't even run he doesn't even have a YouTube channel or anything he was like Hey I bet you you can get more subscribers if you slightly change what you say here and here and I was like oh those sound pretty legit and I did and it [ __ ] exploded um Manhunt was crazy violent yeah Manhunt was and it's years ago right like Manhunt was years ago and it's not if you were to do that now with yeah like really good graphics that could get pretty yeah that could get pretty tasty yeah yeah um so looking at all this and the discussion of this kind of stuff here's what I have to say about this and Johnny correct me did we talk about game length and media driving the discussion in the last podcast yeah we touched on it okay we touched on it so we'll touch on it again but get abs these parts so my complaint is and it was brought up completely when I saw the uh Star Wars Outlaws interview where some Outlet was interviewing him and was like demanding data about how long the game was and the Outlaws developers were pretty clear on what they said I don't know if you've seen this absy but they're pretty clear on their answer and stuff but there were two things that shocked me about this one it's Star Wars so it's a weird game to worry about length when you have alien worlds and planets of all the games you should worry about like that kind of stuff it would be an Assassin's Creed it would be those kind of things so the idea that we don't want to do more in those games is a little bothersome to me but I'm gonna ignore that what did bother me though is that there's a drive from the media not media just media anybody who covers games there's a drive from us that amplifies voices to make it sound like things are a bigger deal so to give you an example Valhalla the most bloated of the Assassin's Creed games stole billions of dollars largest by a tremendous amount and yet I'm seeing every day I go into Twitter I'm seeing journalists be like man I can't wait till this game is smaller now my personal opinion is a lot of reviewers want it smaller so they can review it that's just the honest truth I had that discussion where somebody's like I wish this was shorter so I could cover it and I'm like that's we're now getting to a weird situation where you want the world to like making a movie for Cisco and Ebert at some point what are you making the movie for is it the consumers or the critics and one's a game and one is a production and I don't want games to be a production where the people who have the loudest voice the YouTubers I would never want to you I would never want to developer to hear my reviews and go Carrick seems to have an issue with games that are this long I'm gonna make a game that's like five hours shorter I would that would be devastating to me to know that instead I would rather make the game the way they did and have it be fun all the way through and have it be like fixed all the way through so when it comes to game length do you I mean I know we've talked about it and I've heard you say both but this is where I sit on it yeah go ahead I think a lot of people right now are very results oriented I think um they have this thing about needing to complete something you need to complete 100 something um so if you are going into that with that mentality it's not fair for you I think to demand less content for other people that may want to play it for longer um now here's the thing I think Valhalla was way too bloated for me but guess what after 70 hours I just quit it I had a lot of fun I did a lot of things in the game and then I just quit because you know I it's a game and I had fun with it I don't think the reason I play games isn't just to finish them that's weird you know I mean I don't go into this game where it's like I just want to see that one result I care about the the time between starting and finishing so I think um for people who don't want to play those huge games to completion then just either quit early or don't [ __ ] do every single thing right there are optional things for a reason um and for people who do want more content they get more content I don't think anybody should demand less content for for the majority and wouldn't we say that you just look at the game and you're like we all agree that Valhalla was bloated because the side bits of content weren't as cultivated as they should have been but if that game offered 120 hours of cultivated excellent content guess what you'd have right now Baldur's Gate and that's what pisses me off because the same [ __ ] who were in there bitching on Twitter about game length are now going I played 80 hours of bulger's gate I'm like you just tweeted yesterday yesterday that you had an issue is so clarify your issue don't just be like we need shorter games be like no if the game's gonna be big cultivate the game make sure that those locations are fun whatever but don't let some [ __ ] influencer like me excuse my language but some I'll have to beep that out but some like influencer or reviewer or coverage person don't let them change your game and we talked about this when one of the YouTubers became a game developer and the game company was like we wanna I can't remember who it was but they were like this influencer is going to help us make a game and I'm like whoa I mean not that that's impossible but please make sure that you understand that you're not making a game just to fit that YouTuber's demographic because no matter how big a YouTuber is that demographic even at 10 of sales would be insanely high and you're gonna get a game that will probably appeal to an even lesser amount and then what if it's bad even more you have a weird public backlash I just don't like this I I don't like people making stuff just for the reaction but again I don't do reaction videos which so that does sort of negate because that's not my bailiwick so maybe if it becomes a talking point doesn't it like the microtransactions whether it has it or it doesn't that's a video like someone is now making a video about that fact and now with the length it's like oh yet another game over 60 hours or you know whatever it may be when you know we talked about it that's a one-dimensional analysis yeah yeah in reality literally that's just that one little Point yeah and nobody in the world experiences games or experiences in general anything the same in one dimension it's a holistic thing that's why you and other people you know you talk about fun factor or whatever terms people use which is a holistic view of what your experience was what was it like to play the game right and beat the game so well let me explain it also this way because I'm sure somebody's gonna complain but I I think this might come close to negating a ton of this Witcher 3. Witcher 3 had pretty cultivated everything and it had two DLCs that were massive unbelievably massive if Odyssey or Origins Origins was actually small I looked up the average time to complete and I never believed that stuff but I always go 20 of 20 down like I'm like hours wise if you look at Odyssey and and Valhalla they were two three times as long from origins of all things but when I looked at it I was like how many when people jump into these games maybe they are looking to just complete it but it stuns me that they would that they can't make the choice for themselves to just not get it to there's something about it where it's like oh I love Incredible Hulk there's gonna be an Incredible Hulk game they said it was 80 hours I'm not getting it and I'm like okay I get it but what if it's good all the way through like Witcher 3 was and I will say Witcher 3 felt a little bloated to me at times even in Witcher 3 even though it has a lot of different quests and a lot of different stories and a lot of cultivated content like you said there's a lot of question marks and things repetitive things one of my favorite games still has a bunch of bloat even if it's just switching stances and having the difference I think like let's say between Alden ring and um well obviously Alden ring I think there's a lot of things they do but I'm saying the the major difference of why people don't mind those repetitive content and Alden ring I think is because they don't present it to you like a checklist or like yeah you know oh this you know you want to see the icon that like disappears because you completed it and I think um whenever they see like like in Skyrim when you when you go around and look for quests and stuff it's just by talking to NPCs there's no like big exclamation mark over right characters right and I feel like when you see that exclamation park instantly near how you're like oh that's like oh now there's like seven exclamation marks it's like oh my God I have to do all of them but they're optional like dude this is what I'm telling people you might miss them yeah you might and turn on Dynamic Hood man I I'm telling everybody if you get a chance turn the HUD off for a Far Cry game learn the Far Cry game a little bit understand what the expectations might be and starts off it's so good yeah it's the biggest reason why I enjoyed Primal way more than if you had the HUD on because it became like a caveman simulator things more interesting yeah for sure I I just find it it it it we're all talking in hindsight after these games which I think is how we should talk about them and what happens is we're there's a lot of people who pretend to have ESP and they're like this game is for sure going to be bad because it's this many hours it's like why don't we play the game and then State because if we if we're doing it prior there's a lot of pressure on developers and at some point and by the way Publishers both whether you you know think every publisher is a [ __ ] Machiavellian villain you know sitting on a Ledge in their volcano you know just like I will regardless there's developers are dumb by the way and they're not and I I just think afterwards we should talk about it which we just did um Wellesley won twenty dollar Super Chat thank you very much sir glad to watch the show still haven't finished AC Odyssey it is a great game uh it is but it is long Odyssey is uh Odyssey is a monster man but you can probably beat it way shorter time absolutely the optional stuff so there's another thing you choose to do them as long as it's like your choice and not grind yeah yeah which by the way Atlas Fallen had some grind that I was not expecting that yeah yeah I talked about this in the review I got to the mid about three four I would say good guess would be three-fourths of the way through and I was like why does it feel like I'm getting smoked a lot a lot of stuff Focus why why does it feel like I'm getting my ass kicked and I realized it was because the enemies I had engaged they were just a little bit higher level than I should have been taking on and I sort of had to grind for abilities and stuff stuff that I didn't necessarily love doing I didn't it didn't like cause me to be mad at it but I brought it up in the review because it's something that you can definitely you know you can definitely poke a stick out a little bit for a conversation um Origins is still the best of the acrpg trilogy no Odyssey is yeah I would say I get why people like Origins but Odysseys dude Odyssey is missing some stuff that is I do too I do too I do good choices like actually I was like taken aback by how good a lot of those choices were they took like The Witcher approach yeah I I I think Valhalla could have been better if it had been curbed a little bit and those choices had mattered more I just stated the treasure [ __ ] man that's the worst thing that [ __ ] [ __ ] try to open the door to get to the treasure and the fact that I never felt like a viking we talk about this all the time but I just bring it up one more time there's one button you press on the controller that you can just continue to hack and I'm like but it didn't even look like a viking like if you think of Vikings and I'm like no dude this needs to be like from downtown like a baseball player at the end of a of a massive yeah it could be like the wrath of God descending upon your exactly yes I want it to look like oh my God like kind of yeah like God no you're absolutely right and and Eldon ring I actually felt there were times where he got big weapons they do that weight distribution right especially with the jump attack yeah yeah the big gut sword dude and yeah just like dude you have those like moves where you go by the way that's replicated in Boulder's Gate I thought they did a good job too when you get a big weapon and you like do um lacerate and lacerate's one of the specials and when you do that or when you charge towards somebody I'm like dude that's a BP what's so surprisingly satisfying to me and I it was satisfying Divinity but here even more so is just shooting people with arrows just that yeah just feels great and dude I don't know about you I was a crossbow for freak in that game I don't know why I don't like crossbows but that game yeah I got like a heavy specialized crossbow that like did four points I asked it wasn't a ton but it was awesome and then I got a ring that was like even if you miss you do it's called um like follow through or something but it was like it added a point of damage even if you miss just because like your swing is so big and I was like dude that's a legit like that that's awesome because you always felt like you may get away but you're still gonna get a little scratched up I love I love the way the gear system works in bowling good because you can use stuff you found in the first region way later absolutely yeah yeah it's not a gear game as much it's not a video game like I mean there's very rare and stuff but it's all about the situational like bonuses and stuff like that yeah and I think up front I didn't get a lot of gear uh I bought stuff I bought almost everything my characters at the beginning there was just well mostly I see vendors have the the good [ __ ] yeah yeah I know and you just go in sell a couple things and move on about play 10 super chat thank you very much he says I 100 achievemented Origins Odyssey and Valhalla was a fun challenge for me to do nothing wrong with that um and what's cool is a fun challenge for you to do is different than what we're talking about which is where people like force it and then [ __ ] and the force was just Desi having to get the hundred percent and it's like I'll put a book Down Johnny and I talk about that we talked about it last podcast I'll put a book down if I'm like 40 pages in I'll give a TV show two tries I'll give a book two tries but at some point is this a waste of my time when for example I just listed Nine Star Games coming out is that a weight it should it not be a point where you yourself say I screwed up and I'll remember next time but I screwed up you know I should have waited or seen you know what people said as they played it but everybody wants to get in day one which I understand as well because you want to be part of the conversation but yeah it's the fomo isn't it nowadays it's like oh it's dude the world we hear people talking about the game you want to jump in yeah it's me with Remnant too I was just getting fomo the whole time I got fomo while I owned the game oh because of all the secrets because Pete no because people are talking about in Discord and I was reviewing another game and I was mock reviewing another one I was like oh my God I really want to play Remnant because Johnny yeah because you're a reviewer you you you would play before the oh everyone it sucks it's there is nothing that sucks more than that when I hear you guys talking about Baldur's Gate and I I luckily I'm still playing it so that helps but a lot of games I'm done and I'm on to the next thing or I'm resting and I'll see you guys talking and be like oh [ __ ] did I just but Remnant I played a bunch of I played a bunch after with Josh Johnny and I believe played two or three times after or one long time I can't remember but it's that good as a as just uh sit down dude I keep hearing like oh we found this class we found this and yeah God damn I wanna there's some hidden [ __ ] in that there's some crazy I love that I don't know if you're in the last podcast where we were talking about like oh yeah we were where there's like you you know you break some slime and let the water fill up for 90 minutes yeah just like yeah yeah yeah and in fact Carrick when we played I think we missed a boss um you know when we did without revealing but you know we did the bloodborne level together and in the end we got to this like other world type thing and just ahead of that there was a boss that I found later wow lady and we just yes yeah I think we just wouldn't have changed depending on the campaign it was our campaign it was he played a little bit of his I played a little bit of mine but it was yeah it was still the the generic that's pretty cool now yeah but also it doesn't have to be there is that too where you it rolls its own bosses because I got a boss that I never got again when I was reviewing it it was terrible one single boss was really bad really bad okay bad in that game and it's a plant slash crab thing that floats up shoots the ground to cause the ground to shake and causes it to fall out from under you and it's a third person game which already means controlling is weird and you have to look up and then look down to see where the acid is and if there's ground there it was terrible and then all the other bosses were awesome so it's just like all right they had that one and by the way I'm sure other people got it but I think that boss might be negligible like a very small percent of getting them because I don't hear a lot of people talking about that boss and gotcha even if they liked it I don't hear it um wannabe Dev Ron 25 Super Chat I can't remember what that is Russian no what's Ron or what kind of monetary value is Ron does anybody know r-o-n sounds like something sounds like something Reg has been lost to game development yes he has yeah reg silver wasn't on either I looked for silver but he wasn't there uh Beast Romania by the way Romania I didn't know wannabe wannabe Dev was in Romania um Mr or beast of Darkness says Carrick are you looking forward to MK1 man the leak happened yesterday that made it look 10 times better though which is their version of Dimensions that Injustice had yeah it's called invasions and they have content yeah right that's the thing I was worried about was that it wasn't going to have any but a leak from somebody in a third world country they got data early or an advertisement and it talked about invasions where something happens where like other players characters come in maybe or something that made me much more excited because to be really honest it looks like a Mortal Kombat game it didn't dude the whole reason I've played a lot of Mortal Kombat games in the PS2 and Xbox original era was because of those types of content yeah right Armageddon had [ __ ] yeah open world yeah and they all had like different themes and you know in one game they can use weapons and stuff and then they could get side games like Shaolin Monks and stuff the world just felt the world just felt more full and now it just feels like oh you're choosing characters there's maybe a story and it's just like online games or business Bots and it's like everyone wants to be Esports ready and all that [ __ ] and we should all remember Mortal Kombat has had major hits and pretty big misses the one of the big misses was the one with the Crypt where they were telling everybody we wouldn't have like casino coin betting and in the Crypt was a casino coin better like I remember going I'm looking at the paperwork and then looking at the thing in the game and I'm like but that's real what are these guys talking about but then they had one or two that have been great deceptions great um Armageddon back in the day when they would do a mini car racer and a 2d [ __ ] like puzzle fighter yes oh dude I remember being like these guys put three games in there and by the way if even one of the side game sucks and one is okay or good that's a ton more content that you and that Mario racer in one of them like or like car mortal Kart Racer in one of them yeah like that yeah oh so good um let's see these guys are talking about Celeste uh it's so good I was so bad people are talking about Remnant origin still felt like it was an AC game at heart plus Egypt yeah Origins was well done man Origins was Origins was awesome what's your favorite of all these three of the three new ones Odyssey okay what about you Johnny yeah it's the most fun like the actual gameplay point right the most fun and the best DLC I've ever played in a game Atlantis you know I never touched the Ubisoft DLC I've never I've never played an Ubisoft DLC in my life well Far Cry you ain't missing [ __ ] their DLC sucks balls I saw the like Vietnam one and right the other one but Syndicate had Jack the Ripper which is a hit and miss for some people I still think it's incredible but the Atlantis DLC for Odyssey is mind-blowing like and by the way Ragnarok for Valhalla is great the roguelike so it's a roguelike game based in in like Ragnarok as your main character and that DLC I don't even think was super super expensive I think it was like 20 maybe um let's see what Mortal Kombat deception where silver like I was saying silver wasn't on Discord when I looked to give invites so I don't know where he was Silver's got a lot of in oh no wait what am I thinking Silver's been posting a [ __ ] ton of pictures traveling he's traveling around the nation I don't think I talked to him about that word or something yeah yeah he posted a bunch of pictures yesterday so I would assume maybe that's why he wasn't on today I didn't I usually now because I'm not paying these guys at the moment is I just sort of invite who's available because it feels weird to be like hey man waste Fourier Hours come talk about Bigfoot I got a lot of feedback on the Bigfoot discussion that was funny man a lot of people posted and we're like dude I feel you which I felt good because I was like a big Bigfoot story yeah yeah but yeah and it was just like I was sitting there going like oh God because Johnny happened to ask and so we talked about it and I was like oh here we go I'm gonna get put you know shorts ACG can't be trusted for reviews because blah blah blah you know believes in bigfoots like I even said I don't know what I saw yeah he's psychotic yeah like people should be questioning that I'm of course psychotic watch my Baldur's Gate three gameplay where I'm much more evil as a normal character than the dark urge character could ever be like that was the thing I was doing dark urge and I was like this guy's a wuss compared to the way I played like but I get it I get it people because people are forced in the darker I'm guessing you didn't save The Druids did you bro I did oh no here's oh you missed this conversation that's my favorite basketball you don't spoil anything yes the Drew The Druids were fighting the other guys so I joined in I was like let's take out the Druids man I'm on your team and then I I waited until everybody was comfortable and I slaughtered everybody left and just had the entire town to myself it was glorious it was glorious I was just like running that ass card man it felt so good and I I was they're all thank you for healing us I was like yeah no problem and then right when that ended I was like attack and we even set up people to be like behind people for the quick attacks Good Times um what else do we got going on besides that before we move on to um I sort of want to talk about complexity this is connected to Baldur's Gate Odyssey um I saw some people saying that they felt Baldur's Gate was a little too complex now fifth e Edition is not complex but there's a lot you can do did you guys feel that you were um confused by anything in Baldur's Gate or maybe something was op I think we've talked about shove but was there anything not like like rather the chosen to me was like especially in character creation I was like oh my God what am I looking at you know um a little bit at the start but this one was well I play a lot of crpgs but this one was very very smooth sailing as long as you know what a 1d8 is or a 1d10 one D12 or 2d6 or whatever so absolutely did you have a problem like Johnny and I talked about this the HUD is messy I find Baldur's Gate threes yeah and those red bars I showed it to somebody they had played 26 hours without knowing they had a bunch extra moves because if you slide the bar over there's all their other moves they probably didn't increase they didn't they had three rows and if they had done four they would have seen a whole other three and three bar and they were completely like I can do these other moves I didn't even know that so they organized in a very dumb way by default so you have to do some organization of your hot bars but what I love so much is that in your an inventory system or when you're looting you can shift click and control click just like you would in a you know Windows folder system right select multiple things yeah uh I'm gonna tell you right now I didn't know that so there we go I did not know you can shift clear so you're talking about you can just grab a bunch of [ __ ] in your inventory but yeah you click on something and hold shift and click on another thing else I would have made some double clicking easier yeah you can control click stuff to take them out of your shift like basically everything that you would do in a folder system dude Johnny did you know that yeah so but I found out after our last podcast by the way I didn't know at the time and and this made a big difference because what happens is you collect a bunch of [ __ ] and you want to sell it and sorry for cursing but uh so one thing you can do is let's say you collected a bunch of stuff and now you want to say all of that tag it as wears so that when you go to the merchant in the trade window you can click one button and just sell all of that that makes a huge deal of difference just like transfer all my Scrolls to My Wizard and um or yeah or you can transfer everything to your Camp as well because if you don't you know maybe you're over encumbered so you could just select all the stuff you just picked up and send it to Camp I was right click and send a where's right click Send to where's right click Send where's it it got so bad I stopped sending to Wares and I just would sell it I would just go into my normal and just go sell sell sell sell sell sell sell sell and do that I also think the barding or barter versus trade was really confusing let like they'll be like if you don't have any money blah blah you can do barter and it's like but you could already just hit equal and try like there was some yeah there was something because I tried I tried like you know selling stuff or buying [ __ ] and not giving as much gold right just like I tested it one dollar by the way yeah one dollar less nope you did not agree it's like okay so what's the point I know you can give them stuff and they'll increase their attitude towards you but I don't know if it's better in the long run to just keep giving them [ __ ] and then there's a lot of travel too absy I don't know if I would want this guy to be awesome and have all my [ __ ] so that he's got a high opinion to me when I'm in Baldur's Gate when I'm like 600 miles away like oh great the guy in the mushroom Valley cares and I never I never interacted with that system yeah yeah I think there's I I think there are a couple things in that game that could have been fixed and I think the HUD would definitely be it um what else uh I see another complaint is um if you're controlling the wrong character at the wrong time maybe or if a character your companion was closest to something then they might trigger the cutscene dialogue sequence and do you want to do on your own character yeah um and you can't switch them in dialogue because of how dialogue works and I think because of the multiplayer system they have going on that's one complaint I've seen I've definitely seen that I actually got pinged uh uh a user he's not in our Discord he's in another one I joined sashman and that was one of the first things he said was when you were playing did you ever have this I didn't I don't know why I didn't I I just didn't but like it's legit because it's popped up for a great number of people it's not necessarily broken but at the same time you're like that I don't know because also some people haven't played Divinity uh it's like um because in Celestia and stuff like that you can use someone else's Charisma check for you right but they don't know that oh you know I can do the interaction but then someone else I can use my high persuasion character to do that reaction instead yeah yeah yeah and some games don't let you some games do let you some games say the character's name in the dialogue to indicate this person I would if they do that I would like to see that character come forward and be like well what about this you know instead of like me pretending to talk but um yeah man it's great it's it's awesome to see these Banger titles I saw a lot of people saying Zelda versus this for game of the year and I'm like whatever we'll get to that when we get to it but um I just hate those conversations dude they popped up so many times I get I always get so much [ __ ] for like not wanting to do Game of the Year videos because I'm like dude seriously like there's recently guys there's there's me like in a game more than a game style more there's dude I'm not gonna ever [ __ ] on Zelda I mean it's construction system and the the stuff that happened was just they painted patented which they patented I saw that yeah I saw that they patented a couple days ago I was like uh oh that sort of sucks Warner Brothers with their patent in the Nemesis system and all that stuff just makes me yeah but with these kind of games it also depends on what the person likes if they like a racing game Forza might be the game of the year traded a video people would be like what and you're like dude I'm a racing channel dumbass like if you're wearing a Nascar helmet when you're doing the review there's a high chance Boris is going to be your game of the year it's just such an ugly gross discussion when it's not like there's got to be something about it that that is almost standoffish but then that's hard because you know and I think and this year it's super highlighted because it's not just like two or three games that people are talking about that could be it's way more than that you know anything else most of them cater to very different people by the way very different most of the big hits yeah very different yeah for sure for sure I hadn't thought about that what are we gonna say Johnny uh well just two quick things I think this discussion sparked because Baldur's Gate overtook tears in in Metacritic I think it hit 97 cheers is at 96. so with only 14 reviewers by the way I think tier had like 400 reviews okay but yeah yeah that's that's true because I saw that yeah I was just gonna ask Johnny so what you're saying Johnny is that at some point Baldur's Gate had a number of some kind the Aggregate and then it went above tears of the Kingdom yeah and it's aggregate yeah went up to 98 I think on 97 and tiers okay let me explain why that doesn't it does not matter it's metacrity they weigh they weigh IGN higher than other influencers it does not matter that's why metacritics should [ __ ] be burned to the ground unless they fix their [ __ ] open critic doesn't do that why would Metacritic Metacritic artificially adjust for some journalism sites and I'm just like why and they've done it for years and I don't know if they so I know you're interested or not it's sitting on like a 94.95 yeah and why would let's say Games Radar right let's say game rant um uh uh GameStop let's say they give a game a hundred and then IGN gives it a 90 or 80 which we've all had issues with some of IGN scores being weird I don't care about that I'm just saying if they have more weight then any discussion about metacritics I mean flies out the window if there's an adjustment to the weight and that weight that's not described like for example here's what they could do game is at 87 on Metacritic IGN added two to this versus Gamespot I would be okay with that because then I could look and go okay the adjustment was this you know it's like a favorite in a UFC where you're like I get it this is you know this but 200 point you know 300 Point Underdog or you know higher chance to to win that's fine but they don't Metacritic doesn't Metacritic shouldn't matter it needs to be nuked man or fixed fixed is fine too because I don't want anybody going out of business but I hate it it's just so weird uh what else do we got for Baldur's Gate before we moved to Starfield oh dude oh man you're gonna hate me when I say this dude because because I hate you already so I mean will this make it worse maybe okay go a little bit no it's just a just one of those opsy things you know I uh dude I okay I I teared up at one point in the game oh my not because of anything listen listen not because of anything emotional in the game or whatever but because I hit a point where there was such good reactivity to my actions and a lot of attention to detail that I was like oh my God that's that's awesome that's beautiful yeah yeah you know I I okay I I so I get what you're saying it wasn't like somebody like bowed down and and you know did a wedding proposal and you teared up you're saying that the interactions that you did over time started to play out and you saw all of this stuff coming together and that made you tear up like oh my God yeah because because I think um like like cyberpunk burned the [ __ ] out of me with that thing like attention detail was the main thing about cyberpunk that bothered me a lot and uh I was like burnt a lot but yeah no I get that I get that don't you sort of think of that in a weird way like an inspirational poem or an inspirational speech you hear on YouTube to me that's in inspirational when I see all this stuff mattering so I sort of get where you're coming from where like emotions might come out when you're like oh my God everything matters it's so nice to have things matter and and make it make sense and and not penalize you unless because you're supposed to be penalized or not reward you and no I get it I get it I don't I didn't get that um I did get what would the term be I felt emotional weight when I backstabbed somebody on accident because I clicked too quick I would just say that I clicked too quick and I was like I did this thing where I reached towards the screen sometimes so if I see a movie and like there's a weapon and a person doesn't grab it I'll be like grab the weapon it's right there I did that when I hit I was like oh no like what did I and they're like why and I was all I don't know it was I had like a little mini conversation with the game where I was like it's it's all my fault I so yeah I reacted there and that would be because things did matter so yeah I get you yeah yeah did you continue on with it or or I think I'll continue on yeah oh yeah let's talk about saves gum first of all let me get my part out and if you guys disagree because I think absay does I can already tell by what he said well maybe not cares but we probably come at a different rate okay lately I've seen a lot of people who are like bro bro how many times did you save if you are measuring your dick on saves coming you already hung like a wet shirt as I said on Twitter no amount of gelkin is gonna stretch your prick to a longer amount because you saved less the conversation around safe scumming is gross and I mean it in a way that is it's so many ways detached from the enjoyment of a game it's like if I were to have you guys read a book and I said I read 100 pages of one night I mean you read 25 then you're not a reader if I said that out loud you guys would try to Lynch me you'd be like that's the dumbest thing a person has ever [ __ ] said live on camera and yet we see that all the time and I've been seeing a lot on reddits and other places where I would some people said oh is it driven by this website I'm like no man I saw this prior to those websites going live where people like bro bro sweat stains down their armpits because they're obese and pretended to be in shape and they're like oh many times did you save what the [ __ ] why is that a part of a conversation it doesn't make any sense to me also who gets to choose when you save do we just all say okay we're gonna safe scumming is this what is saves coming I had a guy last night who was in the Discord saying I don't want to save prior to moving to another land because I don't want to save very often I'm like well that's on you I saved prior to transfer to teleporting in any game because I'm worried it'll crash is that mean that I'm not oh a gamer like I that's my personal belief is that it's a it is a terrible discussion to have and it makes there is no amount of Dick measuring that can be achieved by a save scum discussion you are not a better person or a more valid person if you save more or less well no I don't disagree with you at all okay I heard you talk about save scum a little bit prior to the podcast and I thought you were saying no I was saying um I was saying um I don't uh like if I make a choice and it ends up to be like a shitty decision that causes a lot of [ __ ] that I didn't want I don't reload my save neither do I that's what I was gonna that's what caused this conversation is I hit that person and I was like [ __ ] no I'm not I'm saving that and like yeah but so but you did state it did seem like I don't know the way we talked or you just mentioned it for a second and I noted it in my brain that it sounded like you were more towards it does matter but you're saying it doesn't what matters well how many times you save but what you're saying is you'll just make a choice and if it's bad I've mentioned I've probably mentioned in the Discord as well uh I hit F5 a lot is that what you're talking about no like I just like I said prior here it sounded like you didn't do that a lot but what you're saying is you have no issue doing that well okay that's another thing yeah if you save scum and never reload a save are you saves coming uh I um I mostly like when I hit a lot of like when I save a lot it's because uh you know anything gonna like the game can crash or whatever I don't know why we do a lot of things um if people want to save scum all their checks and want to save scum like um all their uh you know choices and stuff and want to see what happens and they could play it that way I just like to leave things for like other playthroughs or you know what I mean yeah Johnny what about you yeah I think they're levels to it so if you're trying to pickpocket a merchant and you're like spam reloading until it works I think that's a different level I it starts to enter a territory where I think you remove some of the fun of it yeah so the game of it yes yes so what I try to do is um I have no problem reloading in fact many times it will happen that I run into a combat and like the rest of my party is far away and it's a terrible starting to the fight yeah and I just reload right like oh reload but now I know here you know there's a fight here let's prepare I'm totally good with that um I'm also on board with what you guys are saying that if I make a decision like story wise I'm owning that because I think that's part of the role-playing aspect you know you made a decision and even if it's bad that's part of your your journey you kind of have to make the best of a bad situation but yeah there are times I don't I don't have a problem if I you know uh let's say I do pickpocket someone I succeed but then later on the merchant sees me around and he's like hey you got you got my stuff right right and now I have the option of either going to prison or fighting the entire town and I let's say I don't want to kill the town um I might reload yeah but again I wouldn't do that on repeat that's the difference I think I wouldn't like try to abuse the game in a way okay well go ahead absy what were you gonna say yeah like one good example of why sometimes I I sometimes I do tell people hey maybe for your first playthrough don't save scum too much sometimes I do say that like for for a game like this collegium I said that a little bit where I was like don't say it's come because with what those games do so well and I'll give you an example of this is your your fails or your failure to do something leads to cool things you know what I mean so yeah like a good example is I got a whole town [ __ ] because of my own mistakes i i a lot of innocent people died I failed a couple quests because of that um there's some stuff I can't even do anymore because people died and but this but the the story felt natural and moved in that direction where now I can talk to my companions or the people that cared oh what do you like you know this happened by the way and what do you think about that now they're showing like different kind of emotion now it's a different story and now maybe someone is captured and I have to go rescue them and the game just played out that way where it's like okay well this is my story now so I don't want to reload and not make the mistake anymore yeah have you ever had a conversation with a friend and they're the type of person that while you're talking about normal stuff they're like have you ever jacked off in a moving car and you're like what the f why did he ask that we were talking about video games that's sort of the Way saves gum discussions are for me there's all these other things to talk about so I don't have this discussion very often I'm very adamant on my thought processes but you can do whatever the [ __ ] you want I would certainly do what you do and say well if if it reacts well to your failures it may be fun to see what happens but I also man it's judgment I don't know any other way to say it and I will judge some things for sure some things incorrectly but when I see something like that I'm like guys I don't know what what we're doing like what are we doing and somebody said I guess in co-cons just stream people are saying I won't watch the screen because he saves too often and I'm like good goodbye like there's no sense of loss now I mean dude they let you save mid conversation for like they yeah you do that yeah they let you do it and some games will also on hard difficulty will say you have 10 saves per hour or you have this I like that too and that's that's great too because it means oh yeah where you need potions right Kingdom Come is that what it was yeah and you know I do sometimes I do put my foot down and people get mad about it um but I just don't care I just think it's a weird I it's an it it reminds me of you know when somebody say oh those guys are nerds back in the day when Nerds weren't cool if you're talking about saves coming that's the way I think about that person yeah that person is a true nerd you know um when they get that mad about it like kind of stuff when they get that of a clamped about it you're just like come on man um I tried not to escape on skill or I try not to save scum on skill checks just when something goes really wrong uh or I was just dumb and didn't realize what I needed to do again there's absolutely nothing like yeah the difference between like this game for example and real DND is that you can always ask the GM for clarification and this game you can't really absolutely yeah and and by the way I don't know if you guys Johnny and I think disagreed on this maybe even this last podcast yes we did Mass Effect I loved that when I took a choice in Mass Effect it wasn't exactly what Shepard was gonna say Johnny was completely the opposite because he wanted more he he's like I want to say this don't don't don't add some negative inflection to what I'm saying like it says the words in my mouth so so there's that too where where I do play it in a in a I did like a little of that chaos so I also get people saves coming on different games too where it makes even more sense we're like I can't trust you know I just was saying no you know and inflection's different in text versus you know what you and and I don't know if Mass Effect took any past actions I don't think they did but if they had then it would be an even to me it would be even cooler because I'd be like was I negative or was I really forceful in the past okay if I say no I might punch him where another person doesn't want that chaos in their game they're like I'm saying no and by the way I'm gonna tell you a game I love that's that had this and it did bother me and that's LA Noir L.A Noir they'd be like did this guy do it and you're like that that guy's lying he for sure did it and then your boss is like you better go out there and fix me the Irish angry boss would be like you were totally wrong and I was like what how like the guy like I caught him red-handed and so if you misread stuff or or there's the ability to misread things I I I like there's I don't have any there's a problem with somebody there's one thing I love doing in Pillars of Eternity they had like an option for your HUD where usually in dialogue they tell you they'd give you umbrella it's like yeah this is the good option turn it off right you can say this because you're a monk you can say that right yeah I turned all that off and it was just pure chaos I don't know what what's a skill check what's not and you know it was just like this is the dialogue and this is what you're saying and you know that's Baldur's Gate did that great too when I've had my first racial modifier because I was a half orc and I didn't even think of that it wasn't in my head and I don't have I didn't if it wasn't there I would have never noticed but it was there and I was like oh that's so sweet they're taking into like account my race which I thought you know that's exactly what I wanted I just hadn't even thought about it I was like oh I don't know if they'll do that the first time I saw half orc come up as a as a skill check I was like but I agree turning it off can be such a blast because you don't know if it's a skill check you just being a dick yeah Rachel what have you you're just sort going on if the game reacts well and if it does then plane that way can be can be really fun yeah it's a good good thought process and I know like I'm sure people are mad and they're like he's too mean about it but it's like I just I don't care I I just so practical scenario right let's say you're uh lock picking something yeah and it's your last lock pick and you fail it do you reload never I've never ever ever reloaded a lockpick like Skyrim you could break long pigs yeah I mean my main character has like plus like 10 to [ __ ] yeah that's one thing we did not it was inspiration we almost failed in this discussion by not indicating if the game allows for you to adjust for it I will so I will not reload but I will raise my pick lock skill so if I am breaking stuff I'm like God damn I wanted that I will never be like I can have it now because it's almost like a cheat where suddenly the game doesn't have as much investment from me but yeah 100 sure yeah buy like lock pick plus one lock pick plus two or or raise my dexterity or or have the right guy do it some games will be like if this guy does it he's gonna have a plus ten if you do it you're gonna have a minus five because you're fumble fingered you know yeah interesting God damn I'm glad you guys brought that up because I wouldn't have brought that up and I'm that's a good thought what are your thoughts on writer's Republic um I haven't played writers that's the uh snowboarding thing right right yeah yeah all that kind of stuff you know in fact just the last thought there on the topic I actually would encourage people to reload fights if they got like a bad start on the fight oh yeah especially if you're by yourself just experiment because it would surprise you and we've mentioned this a lot how much the fight changes depending on where your guys are positioned do you have like a stealth start you know do you do you have elevation in your favor all these types of things experiment with that reload see and you know find strategies that work so my strategy was to realize that could happen and change the gameplay versus reloading so it did happen I jumped into a battle and I was like I'm getting my ass kicked I this guy's by himself the other guys I didn't look one time and one guy had waited because he couldn't jump and I got into a huge battle and I got smoked but I was like okay I need to change my gameplay style but whether they want to take that time or or save yeah do whatever you want yeah yeah it's totally fine go ahead absy yeah like I agree with that as well but for me I don't reload I just it's when I die when it's like okay you play it out yeah yeah like uh there was a section where my persuasion check failed and we entered battle and stuff and I was like okay I guess this is happening now and then but I died so I had to repeat the persuasion check but then I succeeded so oh yeah so yeah um you know a game that's putting this on its ear which is awesome is Lords of the Fallen or if you die you don't die you go to the underworld to do battle again and I thought that was awesome I can't wait I thought it was if it works I I first I thought it was just the secular thing where you relive but no like there's a mechanic well there's like other stuff to explore on in the in the dead and you can kill yourself to go into the other world at any time I thought I was like dude that's it if it pans out that could be legitimate the people who played it like this universe exploration yeah or like an umbra almost like the spirit and the idea that the boss might be harder but now you know some of their attacks maybe in the Underworld you get more I believe you even get more of a reward or different rewards in the Underworld than you would in the Overworld what if you have a weapon that works well in the Overworld nothing I I like that idea I think that could be you know depending on how Lords of the Fallen one didn't wasn't great so it's like you know yeah yeah yeah I don't know what to say like that's a that's an odd it's an odd problem Lester says is bg3 better than Divinity original sin too yes I like it more I like it I like it more yeah I like uh because pillars was my favorite out of all like pillars was oh right crpgrpg yeah now Ballers get is more than overtook pillars for me so far interesting so you're Baldur's Gate uh no you're Baldur's Gate then Divinity original sin one or two or that series and then you're the largest gate no Baldur's Gate and then pillars right now and then pillars and then I think rather and then Divinity I think oh interesting you liked Wrath of the righteous more than Divinity original sin oh that's yeah what about you Johnny where do you put those where do you put these games go ahead Johnny so far I like Baldur's more it's um it's kind of Next Level when it comes to all the voice acting the interactions and stuff smoke show beyond all belief oh dude yeah I've been yeah that's the character I've been Romancing oh yeah and I think I feel like the characters have more depth although you know Divinity did well but here it's kind of like whoa anything you can get them they all scale that's right you can go back to camp and you don't have to [ __ ] like level up each person that's right and that's a huge change right because Divinity you were pretty committed to a party to the other and sure you could respect like there were points where you could go and uh respect and change classes but it was a heavy commitment you can't just like change Companions and hear like the fact that you have this Camp that's going with you wherever you go you go there and do like the camp is eventful man like every time you go not every but almost every time you go to camp and you go to sleep there's something interesting that happens right there it's kind of advancing this meta-narrative that's outside of what's immediately happening that's really really cool yeah I would yeah I'm I would agree with all that I think Baldur's Gate just does a better job and it could be bouncing off a tropes from d d where Divinity original sin had its own tropes and they might not have been able to do it as well but Baldur's Gate I mean there's some stuff that happens in your yeah your Camp is pretty important also in your Camp you can beat the [ __ ] out of each other learn your moves which is nice because I would go in there and you know beat the hell out of somebody by figuring out what you know what moves did what because I didn't want to try them in battle I thought that was awesome different characters in the camp um are cool the only thing I will say about the camp that I didn't like was this sounds like such a small nitpick but after you know now I'm at 111 hours it's really become bothersome which is when you go to Camp just to rest and you have to like go to Camp then hit the sleep then hit the go and I it sounds so dumb but it's like I just want to sleep and wake up and go and I know why they're not doing it it's just one extra click that I don't know why but I wake up like five feet from my bag and I'm like I was just on the bank I was just there why can't I just say sleep and go back uh you know again yeah it is a bit slow yeah that's true yeah and it's a dumb complaint in the scheme of things but after 120 hours of it and you know that cycle is coming I don't know about you guys I get it weird angst when I want to when I just want to go quick I like I get almost like just hurry hurry hurry I don't want to I don't want to hear somebody and also when a character says I want to talk to you you get an explanation a lot of times I just ignore him I'll be like I want to get back to battle man take yeah leave your talking you know talk to somebody at a different time I would have liked in Camp is being able to access everyone's inventory in your Camp um in some way without having to because in order to take someone out of your party you need to talk to them and oh my God yes say would you please leave are you sure yes I want you to leave yes okay I totally agree you're like yes I'm telling you to go no arguments please just leave and they're like are you sure and then I accidentally hit no and then I'm like oh you gotta repeat that yeah yeah [Music] um who's your faves uh no don't answer that because there's some characters that come later um from act one like my favorites from Act One probably not we'll do it next week just this week we you know I mean Shadow Hearts there we've talked about them but there's some stuff that happens later on that can really adjust your entire party Dynamics so I just yep because a lot of mine do have to do with things I've done in the game World causing somebody to be like yeah I don't want to be with you or whatever I I remember one time I wanted to travel somewhere and a person's like you're not doing my quest bye and I was like okay yeah that sort of sucked up I wasn't prepared for that um THQ just announced a new South Park game no day yes dude South Park is so legit South Park games those two Stick of Truth and uh butthole the fracture fracture the fractured butthole yeah I love those games I cannot wait that'll be awesome I did I didn't know that got announced um moving on from there let's talk about Starfield so with Starfield do you guys think no I can't I can't ask that because that um let me ask this a roundabout way so in past Skyrim and Elder Scrolls games when you got a companion they didn't have much going on you can marry them but that was two clicks you know and you're banging right and there's no reaction to that you're not you know causing each other to get Skyrim herpes or anything it's just like bang and that's it there's no real thing do you guys believe that Starfield will have more character interactions and more more I guess more telling more reactions do you guys think people would be expecting it because I think Baldur's Gate is set I think people will be expecting it right I I but but for me I don't see Bethesda games usually as the story of Rich that Ballers get is like so you know it's Buzz Gates way more story Rich right and I think with Starfield and Skyrim and stuff it's more about the sandbox and like kind of gameplay options rich or simulations and um and just like [ __ ] you can find yourself in and you know not taking itself too seriously and [ __ ] you can do rather than you know um this character is going to be very developed I don't can't think of a character that's like super developed and right I know right that's the game yeah yeah that's true like even now that I think about it I guess it might have even well it's not there's yeah yeah I don't I don't want to talk about some stuff not that I know anything but I don't I don't even want to put it in people's heads um but I've wondered about that myself like like are they gonna Embrace a Sandbox where because the reason why I asked this Johnny first go ahead and answer and then I'll say why ask this what do you think do you we do you expect more so I think they're very good at giving you the feeling that there's a lot going on with interactions when in reality like it's not that much when you break do you know what I mean yeah I do yeah we talk about like client to the player it's not really lying it's more like the kind of the iceberg metaphor yeah where you know you see this surface part and it leads you to think that there's a whole thing underneath right that you're not aware of like this past or the slower that they come from it's just like they hinted stuff that they never explained but just gives you a sense that there's more under the surface there and I think they're really good at doing that giving you a sense that people have stuff going on they have uh interests and agendas that you're not aware of I think they do that super well that's what I expect to see here and that for sure I expect to see some like Romancing or friendships and stuff but I think by far that is their main like toolkit for how they construct this stuff yeah one thing sorry no go ahead no the one thing I know I'm uh when it comes to like dialogue and talking to characters that I know I think I'm gonna enjoy more in Starfield um is just the way um it's not a DND game it's not roles and checks it's more like for example we saw an example of persuasion how that works and it's more about what you say rather than a um a dice roll for example so that's like a different thing that I might might enjoy more there yeah that's actually a good point is how their entire conversation system and works which is different so therefore the game just sort of feels like it would have to be different I um the reason why I'm bringing this up is so I built my city in Fallout 4 My Town whatever Sanctuary is that the original Town Fallout 4. I built it and it was terrible right like no I mean I built it terribly it was more about does it work does the generator have power if it does put the generator right in the center of the [ __ ] town I didn't worry about people walking around but when you look at Starfield you have people on your ship right people NPCs plus you have NPCs in your research centers all of your bases they've hinted at bases being able to be in some way probably tangentially but in some way connected you know whether it be in sales and production and stuff like that what I've always felt Skyrim all of the Elder Scrolls did is they were like seventh grade breakups where it's like I'm breaking up okay we're dating again I'm breaking up we're dating again and it never there's no real depth to it because nobody has depth at that age it doesn't even work the human brain isn't working well enough to really have depth at that age and that's the way Elder Scrolls have always felt but it feels to me like we might get more or yeah I'm hoping a little bit more for example work relationships are real are you going to be able to date any of the workers that you put or romance them or go just for a drink and now you have a crew right that's what I meant so there has to be Dynamics and stuff right I don't want to see exactly I don't want the crew to just be like I am the guy who runs guns and you're like okay but do you have a funny thing from like Firefly where you're washed and you have some funny things that's one of the best things about sci-fi media is like the crew they're dude it's everything right it's everything um and I don't know what we're gonna get I'm hoping we get a little bit more that's that's it I'm not I don't need a big simulation but it would be nice to have some some cool stuff pop up um reading some of the stuff Heavy R what's up Javier he says exploration is the bread and butter Skyrim and Fallout not expecting much more than that don't see Starfield having the same depth Bethesda seems to do a wider RPG rather than a deeper one actual romance is the only thing I dislike about bg3 everyone is thirsty as [ __ ] I would actually agree no I saw that comment a lot but I've seen also comments that are like why doesn't anybody want me and I've been trying and I've seen videos where it's like so some people just like I don't know you know don't that because choices yeah or or you just say it's mimic in real life man nobody loves you in real life sometimes people will not have the hearts for you and sometimes that's that's I I have not heard that but that would hurt my heart a little bit if they're like I'm trying and nobody wants to date me you're like what are you doing in this game where a bear doesn't want to screw you I was seeing a lot of discussion about Mass Effect 3 They removed the butt cam from Miranda when she has a discussion people are like this is you know like sexually and then you look at Baldur's Gate three and I'm like I do get what people were bringing up that it was a conversation about a deep family issue with Miranda which I do get the conversation yeah I do think it was overboard to switch it I didn't think it was like you know it wasn't that big of a deal but Baldur's Gate it's difficult to talk about a like stacks and games and having even one desire the other once you see Baldur's Gate three there's some crazy skills it's like hey you want to see a magic trick yeah oh we're in love now oh [ __ ] no it's not even in relationship yeah yeah you can have goofy stuff that comes up but I mean there's [ __ ] that happens with other characters that you walk in you know there's all kinds of stuff oh yeah you walk into something yeah so I'm just like dude like I don't know this conversation has become and in a way it's good that Baldur's Gate does that because then I think this moral High Ground people are on we're like well technically you know we shouldn't show butt cracks blah blah and you're like well you know at this point we're showing bare ass cracks so you know like it maybe it'll be less of a discussion because that's such a small thing when you look at all this other stuff there's so many other things that I think matter so a lot of people are saying they don't expect Starfield to do this the reason why I'm saying I want it is because I would love to them to go against expectations it would be awesome to see people talking about Bethesda and being like holy [ __ ] this character actually responded to something that would be like it would be a cool surprise it would be more than because I don't want same as that's a little bit what I don't want Fallout 4 in space it's like great but we're 10 years ago no that's not the case too like we are they already they already shown us that they've gone back to more RPG yeah it's gonna be fun to see man we got some we got just some crazy yeah crazy games and there is an early access for I think Premium Edition or Deluxe I'm not sure star field or Starfield and it was like four days early dude there's oh man I hate that yeah that's the worst one I think you know I actually the problem the main problem I have is with multiplayer games that do that because it kind of breaks up like you know some people will be going into it for days early and then by the time you get in it's like jungle play games like we were talking about being part of the conversation that's what I'm coming from I'm coming a little bit from the fomo of where I'm like listen guys yeah you know I get you got a smart watch that people are going to use for one hour and then [ __ ] never charge again like that kind of stuff whatever I would rather have it be like everybody's jumping in at the same time but I'm gonna be honest um there is a small chance that they're also looking at Cloud and going do we want to test it you know with less users than just saying okay everybody can play because you're like is that going to affect the servers for the downloads is going to affect service for clouds it's funny because the Baldur's gay people were saying they were ready for a hundred thousand concurrent players and they got up to yeah they said they would be lucky yeah nothing they got 100 well nobody they were prepared like yeah yeah didn't he say I'm not going to it's room today because you said like there's nothing to expect at most hundred thousand yeah yeah and it's so great because um well it's great that they're doing well what I'm hoping is we don't see everybody and this happens every time every single year people still compared a lot of games to tears of the Kingdom but if they were good they were good so it's great to have this game but the next pillars isn't going to have to have all this if it's if it's good it's good you know you might be like third person would be great for some of these discussions if it's not there it's not going to make me immediately think the game is lesser than it'll just whatever they deliver is what you're sort of looking for it's gonna be a it's going to be a long discussion for a long time where games do get compared to all these games in 2023. yeah yeah and I think it's happened with two or three games a year February you got a game uh June July you got a big game then boom you have your big game in the winter now it's like this is ridiculous there's you know and I saw the crazy knee-jerk reaction from the armored Core fans that was beyond belief When anybody said even the smallest negative thing about it so it's like there's already people prepared with like the Defense Force you know putting their [ __ ] fake cardboard armor on and just getting ready to attack on the internet but I I mean it's awesome to have this problem too I mean there's something cool about 23 man there's this is just ridiculous it feels like I've played so many good games and bad ones that it's hard it's hard to even know what I'll return to in five years because I do play some old games and I've been wondering that in my brain I've played a little bit more Baldur's Gate because I'm like will I return to it I better play it now because there's a lot of games in 2023 I'll probably want to return to in two or three years and I see Starfield as probably being the one that'll be installed on a hard drive forever yeah yeah Jack um kind of like uh no man's sky right like yeah maybe a comfort game you can come back up to yep and no man's sky that I just saw somebody saying um something about no man's sky that caused like they were saying oh I wish they'd move on and I was like well I get that but there are updates on no man's sky are so substantive they're so big and there's so many new things they add that to me there's something cool about a gamer who doesn't hear about their game dying I I had it with Legion Legion got patched up and I'm like oh there's some really cool parts of Legion we're done support and Legion and you're like damn it and you know you knew it was coming it didn't sell as well and the DL the DLCs were okay but there's something cool about no man's sky where it's like here's here's a here's a big patch here's a big patch you had it with subnautica subnautica was always releasing like substantive stuff it's there's something cool about the occasional game that's still around you know just getting that like yeah you know something real there's I I love it and when we're always into the discussion of how something rewards the gamer I can't think of a better way to reward the gamer than actual real DLC content yeah more content more like yeah if you're rewarding people are playing it for free even yeah even if it's not free and it's five bucks or whatever even like that but just seeing all this stuff is it's exciting to me um thoughts on the lack of main character spoken dialogue I hate it we'll finish this on board like an idiot sorry okay I'm done so first of all I think the voice options for custom characters they're too similar and you you know what I mean because like you don't get like a Gruff guy or whatever they're all kind of designed for like hot young people um but I got it for custom characters like if there's no dollar but I wish that if you were to play An Origin character that they would say they're done oh right that's a very good point I had not thought about that right yeah that's true yeah I don't know about you Johnny but we talked about this last podcast I I [ __ ] hate it man I hate it because it's obvious that they pause you to give you a second to read and your character's like and he's just standing like an idiot it is yeah it breaks it up for me big time yeah like I mind it here more than uh like I have no problem with it in first person games because I say it and then I click it and then it's me looking through my face I don't see my characters so I like them more there but um here it is it can be couldn't pull you out of sometimes my character just dude that's not the face I want you to make that's not how I reacted to the information yeah don't make that and my guy I don't know if because I made him I thought my guy looked amazing like an urukai I was like this guy looks badass and yeah I even had people saying hey man that's a really cool looking orc and then every cut scene is him just going oh my God [Music] and then you'll be you'll see people being like well I'm glad it's not voice I get that you're glad that somebody removed the option for somebody else like just allow us to turn it off oh sorry I got a huge motorbike that'll happen here sometimes so I'll be sitting there and it'll just be like Anyway let's move on I I love the idea absy said there like if you select An Origin character you then get the voice right but if you choose to do a custom one then maybe you maybe you don't you want to go down the path of just you know having it be like your own voice like yeah he was saying yeah somebody here says they get used to it man not me like I do not get you there's some cut scenes later maybe you haven't got there there's a couple cut scenes in Baldur's Gate where your guy looks like he quite literally was electrocuted and is just like halfway through a move and you're just just waiting and it removes the Cinematic feel and instead it looks like Forrest Gump is trying to figure out what to say all the time and by the way my guy's pretty quick on stuff so I would maybe even skip it but I want the chance to say it one of the greatest Parts about Shepherd in Mass Effect and it's in the same sort of style of gameplay especially if you're playing the controller so I just I always want voice protagonist and if you want to turn it off that's one thing but there's a great number of people who like that's what they want and especially here where it makes a technical glitch it just sucks moving on from there though let's see what else do we got what did you guys put in the list because I copied this list late uh Rockstar acquired um they they hired the modders that made 5m and red M which are the main uh kind of back ends for all the RP servers which I thought was awesome what is that what does that mean though does it mean they're working on maybe like GTA 6 or does it mean that they're doing an RP server for five what I think is either or both they're gonna help uh sorry guys they're gonna help Rockstar with like no worries kind of interaction maybe or with their online system or and or um they're gonna they're just gonna integrate them so that the RP servers would be hosted on Rockstar um so they can make money off of it as well which would be smart as [ __ ] because they'd give them the resources and stuff and it'd be like the same thing I think um because for RP servers to actually be RP servers you need Community managers leaders you need moderation you need you know you need people there and none of that paid I assume right or for a lot of people I think uh they you know different communities have different models for that some communities are free some communities have a bit so that you have to pay for an application for a chance to get in or something or donate where they pay those mods or whatever but uh yeah I think um I think instead of now they just get the 5m model of hosting the RP servers and then you know Community people can just buy servers off of Rockstar to host their own RP right servers yeah that's what I think is going to happen and the the reason I think that um they are going to do RP stuff is because they announced it on Twitter where they're like hey guys we got 5m now yeah yeah I did see that I mean it's it's exploded I mean it's such a big deal that it makes sense if if like for them they want to add it to something I'm hoping that they put it in six then right away or something you know because I mean we can all admit Red Dead online was a complete disaster yeah so yeah if they had all this interaction and stuff like you and I had to make our own interaction in the game which I felt was really like such a letdown like some moments of fun when we were we had a blast but we didn't have a blast because of the game great fish man yeah we couldn't do anything because that was back when fishing costs money like right at the all the beard ships Homeless Bird ten dollar Super Chat saves gummies helped me avoid taking on The Accidental waifus in Persona 5 Royale it's my first jrpg and a fantastic gaming experience but romance and games just isn't my thing yeah I mean I agree with all that it's not my thing either for the most part it has to be really good it has to be really good for me to like really dial in to role-playing um Rockstar though I have one thing there absolutely what I'm thinking is how much of the RP situation is like a lightning in a bottle thing that happened oh organically and to some extent you can't really recreate like you know you could talk about the pub G phenomenon or any other huge thing right that has been tried to be replicated but often just fails right yeah and we see with red dead they kind of had all the pieces there I mean you know it was a similar type of setup it's Rockstar so you know they had everything for it to work in a sense but it totally failed so it kind of makes me think like is it possible to repeat that like or is it one of those things where simply GTA 5 you know what happened there can't really be recreated people overuse whatever game and create their own [ __ ] and maybe with these new games yeah it just yeah because we haven't seen uh this much of an RP community and any other game other than GTA 5. um I think for GTA 6 it can because it's the next GTA yeah but like even we see with the Red Dead like it didn't work out as well as GTA RP Red Dead RP is a thing but it's not as popular um maybe because everyone doesn't want to do a cowboy accent but um other than that well it's not like that if you look at the big problem I had with red dead and what I talked about prior to it releasing that I was worried about online is one of the reasons why five works so well is because it's cars motorbikes and flight there's a 3D element that doesn't exist at all and your vertical does not exist and there's you're over the city you're flying no problem you go over a base they shoot you down that changes your thought process for what's safe and what's not um there just wasn't much going on in Red Dead online but it's also a world where that's very tight remember that world is super tight like there's most people just have handguns it's like no machine guns there's you know no Swords not that GTA has it probably does have swords but you have this really tight timeline so I think GTA 6 has a chance I'm happy they did it because it it's obvious that they talk to those guys um and decided to do it I do agree with Johnny though that we've seen lightning in a bottle before that then never comes back up I do think RP though sticks around in a lot of games whether it be Sims you know you see RP stick because people get a community they like and it as long as they build a good sandbox I think they'll be in pretty good shape I think yeah because RP is revolved around how good the like the community you're in is like an RP server can be terrible on others oh yeah it can be awesome because of the people and RP just so Johnny I don't know if you ever played this is ancient so it might have even been before you're playing games but never win or nights won at a server module and I played an RP for Dragon Lance Raven Loft whole worlds that people put together and by the way I think it was locked at like 32 people so you didn't even have like a great number of people it was Titan yeah but it was awesome it was a good Community but I think that there are a lot of rpers that will go into six the big question is and I don't know if you guys agree with this are they going to shut down five because they want people to move to six online oh that's a good question will 5m shut its servers down for RP or not only yeah yeah I'm wondering [ __ ] question well I I because it's a split right because well a lot of people also invested a lot of money yeah that's that's exactly why I don't think they can do it because unless there's some type of like grandfathering of people so if you have like a certain amount of resources or whatever if you can kind of carry that over maybe or they'll set it and just be like there are no updates don't say that GTA 5. yeah well we saw like Path of Exile too they're not they're keeping Path of Exile one and we're actually gonna expand on both agreed but if you look at GTA I think the amount of resources to keep online running is probably 800 billion jillion billion times larger than but I agree with you path of Exiles like and Neverwinter for a while they were like Neverwinter two's coming out they still you know they they let it run um the the the uh EverQuest one is still going man I know it's still going better than two by the way two disappeared one yeah is the one that's still running yeah well and red dead you could say is the same way yeah like three versions of World of Warcraft yeah three and by the way so many changes that I don't even believe if I played classic it would be the classic classic that I played yeah I was talking to Java one day hurdles or like the bugs not bugs like you know some I guess some specs being well didn't they even change some of the landscape because the turin's lived in like the desert with the spiers and stuff and I thought somebody said in one of the versions that's that location isn't even the same interesting by the way they could have been wrong it's just I was talking about nostalgic revisiting because the MP in the World of Warcraft I played was one of the few games I've been amazing for years instead of falling off where everybody gets so good and I really love jumping into classic uh World of Warcraft MP and so we were like oh um Super Chat screwball says anyone else besides me enjoying Jagged Alliance 3 more than Baldur's Gate 3. is Dragon Alliance like a Commandos type yeah it's I mean there's not a lot of yeah yeah there's not a lot of I mean that you can compare them there's some there's turn base and stuff but I didn't I think but I get what I get what you I get what you're saying yeah uh silent giant five dollars RoboCop Rouge city do you mean Rogue City I think he means that's a Rouge is your makeup talk about world yeah people call drugs rouges oh did they yeah no I think he says RoboCop Rogue city is my September must buy I'm an 80s baby yeah dude I mean a predator I bought Mortal Kombat Predator skins like I'm all for that but uh yeah RoboCop I didn't even mention that's another I don't think RoboCop's got a lot of heat on it I haven't heard a lot of people talk about RoboCop double A I think right yeah I I mean it might be yeah it might be pretty low uh GTA 5 online won't go anywhere after they release GTA 6. you remember that comment buddy all right I don't think pin it down pin it down forever I think they'll Sunset it if it does well and if it doesn't they'll just casually keep them both open like they did I think they look at player base and if they still have a good player base in five locations yeah because if you could sell the people in Five you'll just sell to people in five right like yeah and like they already have uh their store in five is already massive you can buy a lot of things yeah go ahead Johnny go ahead I was just gonna say if they have more people like way more people on GTA 5 than 6 like it is very possible that is exactly what will happen right because five has sold itself 85 times there's like 112 versions of it there's you know they bought into their characters and stuff in six what you need to do is say hey you have ten cars in five you get all ten and six and that then puts them behind on sales because they can't resell it to you yeah which well that's another thing about the vexile dead where it's like all your micro transactions carry over and stuff they should right like to me I'd be like if you rewarded the people and said all your [ __ ] from five is in six great then just make more cars and put them in say like then people might switch without feeling lost or like have the old stuff be this is like the Legacy stuff you can't get anymore and only those people oh yeah dude reward them yeah see that's a good idea to be like okay you're you're gonna have a tag called classic player whatever and all your [ __ ] is you know locked out GTA 5 is where that stuff came from and the new stuff you could never get it anymore boom like that would be cool I'm probably ignoring a reason why it wouldn't be cool but I'm saying from what you just said I thought it would be cool I'm not sure you can make Robocop work in fps with his speed oh yeah true RoboCop walked at like crawl speed I didn't think about that RoboCop doesn't move fast it's a good point um what else we got for chat or for discussion so uh I had my eye on this game punch Club too oh I mean have you guys heard of punch Club yeah I played I think I reviewed punch Club one it looks funny yeah it was a lot of references it was oddly addicting it was Charming nostalgic you know so you would be training you would do fights and then level up different fighting styles that you would that you would prefer you could like eat pizza and I don't know all this type of stuff that was really like fun like a nice little fun side game and punch Club 2 came out it's very positive on Steam it's about 20 20 dollars if people want to check it out but um it's just one game that stood out to me like the first one I haven't played the second one yet yeah I mean I I remember the first one being pretty good they're a different style of game you have to be into like you have to be okay with the older graphics and the different style but they're I think those are a blast and it sort of simulates you know UFC fighter on the streets which is always fun um so 20 bucks first one's probably five now or nine uh yeah it's around six yeah yeah so I mean that's that's always a good price to be able to jump into if somebody wants to test one before jumping into the other but I've heard only positive things about it too so like in the end I think they knew what they were doing by making a sequel they just made it better than with some added stuff like that's a smart way to do a sequel especially if you're a small company a lot of these small companies try to like go nuts and you're all oh dude they failed you know that's why I think Path of Exile too looks like they've done a good job it seems like they have all their sort of all their [ __ ] in a smart like tight way that they're gonna deliver it even though isn't pathfix either one with like 8 000 skills or 8 000 like upgrades yeah I saw the the thing is um there's this community in Path of Exile I think I talked about this in a podcast you may have I don't know if I did but uh I always talk about this anyways and arpgs um especially in Path of Exile it's like you spamming ability and you clear like a whole screen full of a million [ __ ] enemies around you right and you just run really fast and with Path of Exile two they showed that it's way slower there's combo systems it's kind of more like Lost Ark you know there's animations for attacks and stuff and it's not as fast so some of the that core community that like that like speed where we're kind of disappointed and for me I was like holy [ __ ] this is something I would actually play now yeah I mean that's the thing right it it felt different than all of the other games and maybe there which is why I think there's there's they're they're keeping one as well right for people who like that type of gameplay more what what's what's path of Exiles claim to fame what's the thing on the spiritual successor of D2 of Diablo 2. gotcha yeah because when Diablo 3 failed yeah then Path of Exile did well so it was like yeah it was like oh this is the next Diablo I don't know about you guys I'm also it could be because Baldur's Gate is crpg but I'm not hearing a lot of discussion about Boulder or Diablo 4 anymore either I mean I'm not saying that means anything it's just I haven't heard like I don't hear much other than complaints about a patch you know like I can't be wrong it needs time man it needs time to brew for people to give people the content they want other endgame I think it's it's just gonna take a yeah also they they kind of whiffed this season in my opinion the new mechanics are just not that interesting oh they actually remove from some of the stuff you had yeah because now instead of the slots on the gear that you had you now have different slots that work with the new mechanic so you can no longer use the slots in the same way for gear yeah so you can put gems into it you now put the hearts which is the new thing and it's just not a very fun mechanic and not different enough in my opinion to cause you to go yeah necessity yeah because they do a full new play through yeah and at the same time I expected it because I was like uh yes their first season I'm I doubt they're gonna introduce some crazy [ __ ] um yeah so I'm just yeah but I just I um the game when I was doing the story leveling up felt way better to me and more grounded than later on and I was like oh this is turning into like a like arpgs that bore me prpg means computer role-playing game strangely yeah yeah some people are very classic originally it's computer yeah yeah because there wasn't I mean like when they first came out acabet um now we're talking prior to you guys being born but they had the typical d d skills and that was it and then over times a little story got you know it went from Dungeon Crawlers to a little bit of story and it was weird won the first like big big CRP Jew no that hit that big yeah for sure because it came during the dragon land's Forgotten Realms era of books and at that time they were it was unbelievable how big those series and novels were they're easily The Game of Thrones of their time like that it was unbelievable but um no there were a couple prior but they didn't do as well because Baldur's Gate did a good job with voice acting and stuff like that a lot of crpgs back then were reading not a lot of voice acting a little bit you know didn't look as good landscape tournament with like five paragraphs yeah and then you suddenly get Baldur's Gate and my favorite beyond the Baldur's Gate is I swindale the icewind Dale one and two they're a little bit less RPG a little bit more battle but that means when the RPG Parts happen it like to me it hit harder and we were playing land of that for just weeks it was like there's something about icewind Dale that hit harder to me probably yeah or no uh obsidian man Iceland Dale you know it must have been BioWare because I mean it was the it was the very typical like extension um Iceland Dale by the way was one of the ones that like were continuing what am I thinking yeah black Isle which was prior to BioWare yeah um but those guys the way they were able to build stuff back then just took a massive leap one day and that was pretty much Baldur's Gate because there were this company called SSI I hope you guys have heard of this but they were the same thing but not 3D they were 2D Sprites but it was isometric so it looked slightly 3D and they did all the dragon Lance the hardcore d d uh what is it called gray Earth no it's not that I can't remember but back in the old d d section and then balder's gate hit and it was that jump in graphics that 3D jump where suddenly people were like oh my God this looks incredible um somebody remind me who made uh or it's SSI made a bunch of games and I keep saying it's uh gray Earth but that's not what it is you see Gary guy acts as original um land he's the one who made d d instead of having 50 different options now you have a pick of 18. oh Bard's Tale was another one yeah those were the old games sparksdale you guys haven't played Bart's tale unless you played the 3D one that came out on Playstation right yeah that's right I played the the most recent one by an exactly yeah yeah there's four and then there's the barge tale that came on the PlayStation maybe one and two and Xbox where it was all like a giant rat in the basement it was trophy it was a lot of goofiness the original uh Bard's jails were dark really dark thief of Fate oh Temple of Elemental eat greyhawk thank you I don't know why I was calling gray Earth well it's close so I I called I spent an entire conversation with the guys yesterday talking about guardians of galaxy and I kept calling Gamora gordita so I'm close I'm close 80 of the time what else do we got for discussion we're looking through here so I wanted to point this out I don't know if you guys saw this Metro 2033 author Russia gave him eight years in prison because he posted a social message against Putin oh oh yeah so it got eight years in prison which sucks and by the way message against what sorry Putin Putin Russia leadership how they handled the war with Ukraine kind of stuff um the problem in Russia is their prisons make like even the worst American prisons look like you know daycares so it just you know it just sucked I put it up there because like I mean social media post I'm excellent security uh no it's well it's dude uh there's a amazing documentary YouTube documentaries has a list of thousands of documentaries and I've I found one in there that was just about the the gangs and stuff in the Russian prisons and how they're run Way Beyond maximum security but it's not only that it's run by the gang like it's just it's a disaster show it's like the prison break in season three or extraction too if you've seen the new Helmsworth movie like you just see some crazy [ __ ] happening where you're like yeah it's it's it sucks uh uh Game Pass alert for Baldur's Gate one and two came on my phone oh yeah they added those two did they The Game Pass man we are getting some crazy coverage on the the Baldur's Gate uh not balder's Gate 3 but the bothers gate read it a lot of new players they're like yeah I want to do one and two before three they should one and two are still they still hold up in the RPG fashion maybe not so much in the graphics one I played one yeah sorry go ahead no you played one what no I just played one and then I heard that two was the better one though um yeah but well but it was cute tales of the sword Coast was an expansion that was bigger than almost any game ever like Baldur's Gate was they're huge like they're massive games yeah um tourism's asking a question what devices do you guys use to listen to games for longer play sessions speakers headphones earphones headsets with mics Etc foreign for a second yeah when you play games what do you speakers or headphones you answered use headphones in a tube app mostly yeah oh sorry I think something cut out with my internet you cut out here too Johnny what do you do when you play games dude and watch TV shows are using speakers headphones um for games always headphones always usually I do the open back stuff for shows I actually like if I'm by the TV which is like a different spot I like using my sound bar for just like shows and movies um man I switch around a lot I also have one of those caller speakers which is really good for like doing deck work where you don't want headphones on even even uh open backs because you might rubbing you know scratch them off your head or whatever so I use a caller speaker which is pretty good it's the uh I think it's a Logitech deck I can't remember but it's it's pretty good but overall I would say it's almost always speakers headphones are great uh and I always review on everything too but headphones are good like if you just want to sort of separate yourself even if you have open back there's something about having the speakers right there you know that the channeling is going to be done right where speakers depending on where they're faced you might get one that bounces off so you know it's just headphones are always easier you guys use wireless or wired right now ABS is using wired yeah what are you using Johnny you're Wireless uh These Are Wireless um the only difference for me is if I want closed back or open back sometimes I feel like a close back gives me a bit more immersion and then sometimes it feels like better men like brain and head wise with open back right exactly a lot of people say that yeah oh I I'm the other I like I think open openback gives me more immersion just because of the the width of the stuff I hear yeah see maybe it's because I have dogs and I live like Johnny lives obviously on the street you can hear the motorbikes that's where I am so uh close back give me way more immersion open back is good when I need to hear like we have an old dog and I need to hear if he needs to go out so I haven't opened back is great I was having an issue yesterday I was playing games not only did the wife come home she was asking me questions for like 25 minutes and just thought I was being a dick and wasn't answering and I was just listening to Battlestar Galactic go up messing around on the handheld and then realized when she came in she's like well you know looking at me weird and I'm like what dude I had no clue so that does cause an issue you know if you do need to have stuff open uh Cola band says games and movies I use headphones because my kids are loud I like the sound bar when we're all together yeah I gotta tell you guys I do a lot at my computer but occasionally we'll watch a show and there is something nice about the home theater too where it's like Airy you don't have to worry about headphones and you're just sitting back don't have to worry about anything on your head good subwoofers and you feel more Rumble yeah dude and a good subwoofer man for a movie you know or the Reaper's horn in Mass Effect and you hear that just have your ground shake the whole the whole way through or not be able to hear what you're saying see we can't really do that here because it's all Flats so if I had like a 5.1 system with a powerful subwoofer it would just be really bad for Neighbors my old neighbor was deaf that uh Cadiz lived with me anymore we had a water bag a boxing 300 pound water bag and we would hit it and I would go down I'd be like are you sure you can't hear me because I don't wanna I would never but she had said I can't hear anything I'm totally deaf so we would just go up there and beat that water bank for four hours we'd have friends come over and doing martial arts we would do all kinds of crazy I hip tossed my girlfriend like you're doing like rolls and [ __ ] she never heard anything it was such a great that's the thing is I don't have a good experience with Apartments because I was either single floor or there where she couldn't hear but I hear a lot of people worry about yeah the people around them and occasionally I'll hear my neighbors I don't get mad because I'm like as long as they're not outside if they're in their house they're trying their best you know to probably not be dicks you hope but yeah do you like living on a flat Johnny are you thinking about getting a home uh I am thinking I am thinking uh basically now that I work remotely I can go a bit further from London itself right get a bigger place I would love to have a backyard where I can do some barbecue stuff you know my cat can hang out there yeah so that's sort of what I'm looking at yeah that's very cool I hadn't thought about that but yeah that'll be cool now that you work remote a little bit easier to not have to worry if you're only going in once every month or once every week even exactly that's that's cool little baby bar it does a little baby like maybe 10 foot by 10 foot yard does that cost you a ton more is that like a primary list so if I move away a bit more it would be fine it would be like the same cost where I live now but uh in this area yeah it would be yeah like 160 more and it's already expensive like yeah yeah London is just really crushing for for prices yeah and you're doing a yearly lease or do you do a longer one um no a mortgage on this one so I I technically own it but under a mortgage so I would like you could re-mortgage it or sell it or yeah very cool um next question blue Survivor hello everyone long time listener new-ish Patron last year a close friend of mine gifted me a life-size cardboard cutout of Alan Wake oh like the ones uh what was his name not Chuck uh what was his agent the guy that had the cut out for in Alan Wake like his agent oh yeah Barney Barney Barney Barney or Barry Barry I'm sorry it was Barry Berry yeah yeah I actually thought you were talking about the TV show Chuck for a second because he was in a movie place so I was just like what um because he would turn up with the cut out yeah he also gifted another friend of ours a small vial mostly depleted uranium I swear he's not crazy I believe that many of us occasionally or commonly give or receive gifts that we've had that we may have a hard time explaining what's the most unusual gift you remember receiving I know mine but do you have one do you have an unusual gift no not really like nothing that made you go you don't even know me at all [ __ ] like nothing no because I just I don't do that type of celebration for my birthdays or events in general yeah with people that I'm not really close with it's always like my mom and dad or like a close friend so now the best one I got was I was 14. my mom and I don't know why she did this she bought me for Christmas Hellraiser the movie and I was like not only is it not me it's her and I swear to God she bought that for herself and didn't like had a Alzheimer's moment or something but she bought me this horror movie and it it's not even that weird of a unless you knew me as a kid I just wasn't into that it was such an odd present and it was that moment where you both look at each other and you're like I have no clue why I got this present I still think to this day she bought it for herself and just wanted me to pretend like it was a present for me like she went to the store and was like oh I really want Hellraiser he would love horror movies man did your mom and dad were your mom and dad like when you grew up what was their favorite [ __ ] like did they did they watch my dad was like Star Trek Star Wars yeah sci-fi right right my mom was more about the kind of Troy or that type of like more Mythic mythological historic yeah did you ever um like when you were a kid did you guys ever have to fight for the TV yeah no not fight for the TV but we had some times where my Dad tried to get me into Star Trek because he loved it right yeah and it never worked for me I was always like a Star Wars guy right yeah so so there we did Bond and we watched it a bunch together but like Star Trek we tried a bunch of different seasons and stuff he was like no this season like this this season this is the one right it just never got into it um we we fought for it a little bit but it was like that was the one positive of my dad working all the time and so usually by the time I went to bed he was just coming home so it'd be like you know you'd have the TV my mom and I fought over the TV a lot and I I still remember the day we got cable was just mind-blowing went from three channels on rabbit ears to cable and I was so stunned by having 12 channels that's all we had wow but it was to me four times the number of channels I had had the day before and Crystal Clear where I never had I swear to God I thought movies were made with just a bunch of noise and visual static because everything I had ever seen would look like crap on my TV and then we got cable and I was like it's a new world oh so great uh next one up because Sirius says hello best gaming podcast and welcome back to the world of gaming absy uh absy walked off as the time is passing super quickly and vacation times are coming to an end are there any destinations you'd like to cross off your buck bucket list some exotic island and French Polynesia perhaps or super chill week in a five-star hotel somewhere on the coast of via GNC anywhere you've got on your like bucket list to travel to nothing too fancy I've always wanted to see Japan just because like some of the old architecture looks really cool and I like the vibe I would never live there like everything about it seems terrible to live there no offense but uh but yeah I'd like to visit you know do you do you I know you know in the past you've talked about being sick and having some physical stuff is that does that ever hold you back or is that something it does yeah um yeah just have some walking difficulties and stuff I have to get by with a a walking cane and stuff it's like pretty hard to get around so yeah definitely it's something that it's kind of hard for me to go and do like a whole trip yeah right yeah because dude I do know I mean like I was running all high school and we went to Hawaii and in one day I was walked out which just didn't think I had never no matter how hard I worked out I would always be able to walk afterwards but we went for a walk in hard baking Hawaii pavement and went to the beach and went swimming which by the way if you've ever went swimming you tried to get out of the water you're like oh my God very tiring 7 000 pounds yeah and uh we got we got back and I remember that was the first time ever where like that sleep the Deep Sleep of death where you lay your head down and you're just like 12 hours later you wake up and you're like I'm I was I'm pretty sure I was dead did you hear the question amsy no well the question was you just came back from a vacation but are there any destinations you'd like to cross off your bucket list for vacation he gave examples like French Polynesian island or a five-star hotel on the coast of the Aegean Sea he had he had real uh examples but are there any like uh I'd like to go to Japan um yeah because I haven't I've never been to the east um I'd like to go to I want to go to Berlin I want to go to Berlin I think I'm I'm going to Berlin um in February um to catch a near automata oh yeah I saw you talking about that right that'll be cool yeah and then I'm just gonna chill for a week there explore it's gonna be cold as [ __ ] but um I I like there's a cool music scene there as well in like old like record shops that sell like old vinyls and [ __ ] or something old vinyls and stuff like that um I always see online like getting sold for a dollar but the delivery costs are like 20 yeah right right you go to eBay and it'll be like nine dollars you're like great and then you hit it it's like 77 for shipping you're like you sons of [ __ ] for me I cannot think of a place I would ever want to go to for a long period of time I would maybe Japan but it'd be a short visit one thing I've found is I overstay all my vacations I get very bored very quick wherever I go so it's like going for this is gonna sound weird I would rather go for two days and really have to force myself to do as much as I wanted then whenever I get lazy on a vacation it's hard to get me out so like if I have that down time that's a disaster because then I'm like all right I'm done I'm not excited anymore but I would go for a short trip to Japan wouldn't want to live there as Johnny said but a short trip maybe but I don't even know what I would look at because it's just as tour you know tourist trappy I went to Hawaii and that was the worst experience for a trip ever so it's like you see the fire is there damn yeah it's crazy man they're in bad shape well we are here if there's what 1500 fires just in Canada and then America's got like 5500 or something it's ridiculous man global warming doesn't exist neither do fires yeah probably somebody out there who think fire isn't real yeah trips to stuff is awesome but um this is going to sound really bad in a weird way I do find that if I watch somebody else go on a trip a bit of my Wanderlust is sated so if I watch somebody else go on you know you got that guy who did the cooking show who passed away um he he killed himself unfortunately I believe or he had an overdose but he was the huge cooking chef um Alex Bourdain or Bourdain yeah I got Alex wrong I think but board Anthony Bourdain um I would watch his shows and be sated wherever he went I'd sort of check it off my list of places I'd want to go I'm like hey I got to see like you know what it would be I would like to go to Thailand because I have friends there that would be fun I'd probably get knifed I don't know what Thailand's like but yeah Thailand would be fun land would actually now that I think about it that'd be enjoyable I just don't want to go with friends I don't want to go with my wife because we don't have the same if I went with her I'd go to a different place there's different activities that I would want and by the way I'm not talking dirty ones there's just different activities I would do with a group of friends and I would with my wife my wife and I would be like a family or yeah or my family yeah oh dude no like you went with your mom and dad uh not in a million years what I got I love my mom and dad I love visiting them for short stints of time but the idea of going someplace and their their idiosyncrasies and mine it I mean I've traveled with Josh everywhere we went to a bunch of events that's been great we had one friend who went wasn't the funnest and you get that thing where the person sort of ruins a trip you're like this is not a good idea gotta check it off I really want to go to a gaming thing one like an ex like a you should Gamescom you know Gamescom you should go to packs I don't know where what they are for you but Pax West was fun I mean I'd go to the states for one or E3 or something you know I really want to go to one yeah they're they they are a blast once like yeah I've never been yeah I mean you'll get sick afterwards most likely you gotta be right I wanted to I was planning on going to London on October 10 for the Final Fantasy one but the [ __ ] [ __ ] sold out so fast I went to the Final Fantasy Orchestra here in in Oregon they did yeah and that was good I don't even love Final Fantasy music I sort of like it it's a little too like hero you know that kind of there's something a little too cinematic about it but it was amazing and I believe it was Square I don't think it was just Final Fantasy I think they did some of their other stuff what's the story behind ACG anger Centaur gaming the name just didn't make sense because I didn't think I was going to be doing a YouTube channel always caffeinated gaming that is what I called myself for a little bit but then I didn't like that either ACG works you can think of it as whatever you [ __ ] ACG [ __ ] oh I was gonna another dirty word but yeah um favorite spell or move in a game wannabe Dev ooh favorite spell or move in a game teleport what do you mean the vanity original sin two you can teleport any unit Ally or enemy uh the Havoc I reeked with that man I would take an enemy place them in a horrible puddle of muck and blow it up like put them all the way in Chinatown where they can't reach anybody and be super sad just the best man just ultimate control over somebody else with teleport what about you absolutely do you have any even a like a move like a street fighter you know hurricane kick is there um [ __ ] it man judgment cut from avert by Virgil from DMC five Virgil had some cool he just goes like and then the [ __ ] uh the the normal judgment is like you you can like time it so that you can do it right after a combo and then you see like it like juggles enemies or does something where it like holds enemies uh and and damages them or you can do the the crazy one where it just cuts the whole screen in half and all the enemies just die oh yeah it's very cool for me I would say angry Chokehold gamer there you go um I would say I mean in all honesty man the uh multiple hand slap for me Honda in the original Street Fighter too oh yeah I just remember because I've always been interested in sumo wrestlers because they're highly athletic and you don't normally an obese person due to the body the way a Body Works it's more difficult but when you look at sumo wrestlers it's ridiculous like full splits and [ __ ] working out for like 10 hours and you're like what the hell but they're just eating because that's the tradition but I remember playing Street Fighter at a carnival and I did that move and it was just pressing a button it wasn't even hard to do but I remember I just destroyed my friend because he was like what the [ __ ] he just keeps punching I was like this is awesome that was such a cool move um people are saying Doom berserk power up yeah that's for sure I think the Bazooka or I think Doom had also was it Eternal that had the specials or whatever like the where you could like grab their head that was pretty cool little too baked in like you did I like the shotgun uh the shotgun uh grappling grappling hooks are always the bus but shotgun crap from Doom was awesome yeah that was awesome man the remember when Doom 2016 right is that the year uh that's the first one yeah when Doom came out and it was just like a ballad of explosions and it got the movement right better than eternal when you're playing it and it just felt like like I was saying in the review like death parkour like you're just constantly leaping and jumping and running into the site and bullets are barely missing you yeah yeah and that feeling of like just movement and lickety-split where you had to be like going forward you know and there was and it clicks yeah dude it felt so good man it was such a great a great title and a good surprise you guys saw Quake Quake got Shadow released so are you guys gonna jump back yeah Quake too sorry the remix the remastering or whatever yeah quake and and the N64 version I think that that was yesterday they both got where do I find this Xbox Remastered game pass yeah it was yesterday oh it's remaster okay I thought they were making a new Quake oh sorry no I should have said that okay quick to Lance says it isn't Run and Gun more like mow and go oh did I say that in Dooms review yeah yeah yeah that is the way they came it looks pretty good yeah it looks pretty good damn they actually remastered it like an actual and on Game Pass somebody said damn I like it I like the the guns and looks better this guy says E Honda has a brother this is the one with the Toyota and everything yeah it's one of the story and everything right yeah holy [ __ ] sorry yeah no that's all right I I think when you look at the old remasters and stuff if they don't go full and just do a remix like that it's such a good idea like there's something about it where it's like yeah we're not gonna you know we're not gonna [ __ ] blow the world out we're not gonna make a whole new Quake like we did Doom um there's and then the shadow release there's something about that I think works when you aren't doing a remake when you just surprise people and it feels more like a gift yeah exactly where the expectations haven't taken six months of Reddit posts of people being like it doesn't look good I saw a pixel digital Foundry says it drops a frame like this Jesus so to see that release like that is really cool uh do you think we are in for a new uh nude uh quick game SBC says maybe they're testing the waters right yeah maybe yeah I mean a quake I would do yeah there's definitely a market for uh what do they call them Boomer Shooters yeah yeah yeah Boomer shooter because it's a boomer because it was back in the see boomers are I have no idea because decades prior to that yeah I thought it was I don't know why it's I think it's just a boom boom boom yeah you never know right you never know or maybe it's because like the old style like yeah I think it's the old yeah style right but I'm saying Boomer would have been two decades prior so if we're using that as the explanation we are looking really stupid well yeah but nowadays people use Boomer as just like someone over 30 years old or yeah even over like 25. you've graduated and you got a driver's license you're a boomer you're a boomer yeah um Lance says I want a new heretic or hexen me too I played hexen on the Sega Saturn which means not the greatest but I played so I believe that might have been hexan 2 but I played so many hours basically I don't know if you guys have done hexan but it was like a first person Doom but with magic so you could have like a you had like a staff to cast spells oh so cool they did the the people who made dusk made one uh called a medieval that was like the which is kind of like that Doom style Boomer shooter but with magic stuff what's the game where you was it pain killer or whatever where you could shoot the stat or you could shoot the [ __ ] uh stakes and stake people the wall no it's like pain anybody know in the chat it came out about 10 years ago pink paint killer but it was like no as a shooter and it was uh one of the major claims to fame of it whatever was this Spike gun like a almost like a vampire anti-vampire Spike um somebody's I think it's painkiller man pain I remember I just remember like I don't think I played it because BioShock BioShock 2 had uh yeah no this was painkiller I was right okay yeah yeah painkiller is awesome so basically imagine like Quake but more of a um mystical and then also did you guys ever play Blood those old Shooters blood with Caleb oh dude those were great man those were those are ancient um Cortland says what's up Brothers hope everyone's having a good Friday always what else do we got going on looking through the notes here let's look out for news no this has been a quieter week because Baldur's Gate is sort of got a bit of uh oh a couple of things on my side so on one Remnant 2 announced they're working on some some new content it's gonna be new archetypes uh weapons and cross play between yeah cross play should have been in the different places consoles and that's going to be really cool yeah and free ISO that I don't know actually that uh so the cross play yes but I don't know if the new stuff is going to be packaged as a DLC or just a new content the problem is if you got a DLC archetype that sucks man somebody else has got a whole difference already I feel like they can still get game sales with free updates not only that yeah I think so let me tell you guys a secret not a secret what did I say secret six you're not even the right word let me tell you guys a good idea do all those updates but hide the [ __ ] archetypes in the levels somewhere like they do with the originals yeah like they've been doing you know like people didn't know how many archetypes the word the internet was like dude there's a new one we didn't know about it wouldn't that be amazing if they were just like just reduce a patch and say bug fixes and then you'd find a or some here's some new content dude that'd be awesome bud fixes and somebody's like anybody else get this wait a second yeah go ahead Johnny what are we gonna say I interrupted right when you were trying to talk I apologize no no I'm excited for it I think that's the juice in that game it is the different archetypes and they've really changed how the game feels oh great it's awesome and it's such a surprise somebody asked if we have talked about Red Dead remaster no and we're going to talk about that now that was the last one um I saw a bunch of people mad about the price for this which I get um so it's what 50 yeah 50 or it might even be full it might even be 60. um no I get why people are like whatever upset especially because it's not a it's not like a brand new anything I don't know how much work's been done on it um I also am wondering about this so they it's not a full redo on a new engine or anything which makes me think that the ideas of getting a Red Dead full remake is just never gonna happen it's just not gonna happen there's obviously we've heard all the stories from the developers who used to work on it who said it was a disaster behind the scenes that it barely runs so like a remaster where you're just you know replacing the textures or you're doing some upscaling seems to be what we're getting it just doesn't increasing FPS oh I guess not because it's just going on switch what is it coming on switch and PS4 switching which I know for sure I think switch and PC I don't think it's a I I could yeah it's PC right I think um somebody says and it's half the game no online was there an online and Red Dead one yeah apparently I didn't really play it but apparently it was good dude I don't even remember the online and Red Dead one but I do remember Undead Nightmare and so the idea that people are going to be able to play that is going to be is gonna be cool for me uh yeah it sucks especially with that price but I I just can't play it unless I use an emulator um I don't know man are they actually gonna are they actually doing stuff to the game is it just real not much not much it's just re-releasing it onto the switch and stuff like that switch in PS he did the dollar sign yes yes no PC thank you guys okay it might just still be 30 FPS yeah I mean yeah if it's a remaster at that uh a lot of remasters don't improve their you know their FPS so and that's what we'll get I mean I don't know man it like I said I just feel that this is just one more indicator to not get your hopes up for a a remake it just does not why would you even do the remaster why wouldn't you just do a remake and then put it on the switch as well are people still thinking they're gonna make a remake yeah people want to I mean dude it's a like I'm playing it on Xenia or whatever the emulator and yes I own the full game and it looks pretty goddamn good still like it really looks good like a game is the game was ahead of its time graphically like it they you know Rockstar already had a very good idea on motion capture and all their stuff but it is a little buggy you forget that they're like I had the the wagon go sky like straight up into space you'd have the characters that would jet off into the sky you know it does feel and the one developer who worked on it who did a big like series of posts and stuff like that instead that they had to lock it down so much because it was a disaster behind the scenes anything that would slightly adjust would break the game and so what they shipped was like it it was just tight it was like they any open any stuff that somebody could do to break it would break everything so just seems like it was a disaster um so essentially it's the Xbox version that plays yeah yeah but it's not on switch I do expect them to charge something I think some people just think the switch on a completely different system should somehow be free um the price I get but you know it's not that surprising I don't know I don't know I think it's more disappointment not getting a remake and then also being that price um people get a little bit upset I saw somebody compare it to Mass Effect getting their remake and I'm like different companies are going to charge different things you know whatever they feel like it's the right price uh they did three games included all the DLC and uh upres and uh fixed issues and uh and sold it as one game yeah so yeah I didn't I wasn't hugely in love with the remake like I wasn't for Mass Effect yeah yeah it didn't do near you know it was a remake but it really didn't like make it magically a great deal better and one of the issues with all those games is I know you guys like two and three better whatever but the con you know they're not really the best in control even in three you know they feel a little like everybody's got to pull up their ass yeah yeah and I would have liked to have seen a remake attempt that I just don't think it would have been possible I just want a 60 FPS Red Dead 2 update but I guess I'll have to wait for Rockstar to charge me uh yeah I mean it's also the CPUs on these things I don't know if you'll be getting it oh my God somebody said let's forget the GTA Trilogy defective Edition that is that never happened never happened and that thing was bad what else do we got going on what's going on in real life anything amazing um well there was one other thing before real life sorry real quick no go for it no uh PlayStation 5 has a cloud streaming service that they're putting in beta now so this is kind of like G-Force so your the game is running on the cloud and being streamed to your PS5 yeah and this apparently goes up to no well they had they had something like that but this is a new service uh that goes up to 4K and will be included with the PlayStation Essentials I believe here we go there's subscription thing that's it go yeah unclear if it's gonna include like a subset of games or or what it is at this point but I mean they're kind of going heavy on the cloud right with q and and this yeah or on streaming in general yeah the streaming I meant yeah I just I mean it is what it is until we see it in their servers and all that stuff it's hard to know I think that they should do it they've already streamed for a long time it's just like the remote play stuff there's been all types of weird way you can do things so I like I like that they're doing it um what I can't wait to see though Johnny and I said this in the Discord when this was announced I cannot wait to see people on Playstation podcasts twisting themselves into a knot to try to pretend that suddenly the cloud is cool wait because you know it'll happen now that they are doing that now that they are doing it oh dude it's it's delicious you know it's gonna happen oh they'll be standoffish at first well I don't know but then after a while they've got cloud is the future it happens every time it's one of the reasons why I just don't listen to those anymore but I think cloud is the future for a lot of games and game styles I do Baldur's Gate on the cloud all the time streaming to my handheld stuff I love the idea for some games you know some games maybe you know Call of Duty don't know if you're going to want to stream that but just depends uh you can stream the single player with no issues but you know you don't know if you want to do multiplayer I love the idea of it depends on how much it'll cost too right yeah that's true they could um but for now all they said is it would be included in their Baseline subscription yeah I love the idea of it is there any news on the PS streaming handheld not yet on release date on the other hand PSV R2 is out we don't have news on that psvr too yeah like damn that's one thing just like right right and that's the problem the reason why you don't see me really emotional about the streaming thing is I've seen this is one thing Sony sort of known for is being like we're gonna do this and Microsoft has done it as well so any you know Microsoft haters you can agree there's definitely issues with these companies announcing things and I'm not happening so it's like yep I don't care about a beta I want to see it and be like okay like what is happening and is it something they'll support they're adding it into the you know the the package which makes sense they see the future of it and people you know not buying hardware and just buying you know like I know a lot of people by the way I have three friends who do not have PC or Xbox they have like Gamepad laptops and TVs and they're all getting um loud for Starfield they're just going to stream Starfield onto like their [ __ ] fire stick or something like whatever they can get it onto it makes sense you know some people just don't have the money but they got good internet or they don't have a PC because they don't want to but they want to play Starfield so I think it's a good idea um oh and did you guys see that somebody just posted this valve selling refurbished steam decks that's pretty cool it's only 20 off it should be 50 minimum especially as ancient as that [ __ ] system is but that's awesome if you want to get into a steam deck you can get into it you know if you trust I trust refurbished because most of the time their requirements are even higher than a new item so I think that's awesome both of you guys have steam decks or no I don't um Master says I don't know if I'm just old school but I'm if I want to play a game I'm going to sit down and play it on a console or PC I don't have time to play games anywhere else but well if you'd still play through your yeah yeah you're still going to be playing either through the television or the PC or even through the console like Xbox you can still do through the console so I don't I don't know exactly what that means um I think it just means I want it locally which I get I still like my deck I still feel like my deck is new I don't know what that means yeah he's polishing it every night like sitting up late at night just polishing that deck yeah I mean why does it sound dirty the Polish in my deck I think that's the greatest thing though man is gaming is available for anybody a fire Cube owner can play G-Force like and those are cheap like a fire stick 4K was 29 bucks so somebody could play you have to side load on the fire stick I believe you can play these games and then G-Force is adding a bunch of Xbox games and geforce's servers are incredible so in fact if Sony streaming does well and they're saying it's 4K we'll have to see what that means rendered 4K or streamed 4K and even like how the the pictures I've seen actually look pretty grainy but regardless of that if Microsoft sees that they'll just put more games on the Nvidia and let them foot the bill for the hardware and all that kind of stuff yeah it's a cool time man I played Yakuza like a dragon over the X Xbox Cloud streaming service and was impressed with uh the consistency what guitar people are asking about your guitars Johnny Point them out which ones you got how many do you got one got seven total Japanese Tokai which is a Les Paul replica Jackson uh just a American Nice metal Workhorse of a guitar that's the the most like kind of pricey one the blue one because it's an American Fender and then I got a metal BC Rich there it's similar to the one uh from stranger things where the guy played yeah yeah at the industry similar just a slightly different model and a couple other more but those are this and this this right here is my kind of Workhorse where I play Everything which is another Strat but it's a red one and just a slightly different config that uh that I love what are you talking to there we go normally just standard um I have a couple in different tunings for example the metal ones tend to be drop d uh where just the the fat string is yeah lowered a bit and I've I've mucked about with different with different tuning like open tunings and stuff like that but I tend to always Circle back to just standard I still remember what my friend he teaches guitar and he came over and I'm like I want to learn guitar and I'm one of those guys like if I want to learn something so I spent like 18 hours back was all [ __ ] up because I'm like I'm gonna learn it in one night he comes over and he's like can I point something out and I tuned it wrong and he was like dude everything you've learned is sort of not I mean you know positioning stuff you can stick yeah I remember he was so he was so disappointed not towards me but like in a oh man I do I don't even know if I want to tell Carrick like you know this is the thing but I tried so hard man and that's something I can do I don't think I can do piano quite well but I cannot do guitar I tried first I don't even think I made a note it was embarrassing it was hours of like going like why does this not sound even like an a child accidentally rubbing the wrong no like I couldn't even get that to work it was just one of those times it's too much it's and then the tuning he's like dude you can tune it to blah blah blah and I was like what is that even what different tuning because I'm used to a piano it's all you know it's like yeah this is in a way the piano is so like linear basically you look at it and you can sort of see stuff whereas like the positions on the fretboard that are kind of weird they're not symmetrical they're not like oh dude that was the first time that was one of the things he came over and he's like I'll teach you an arpeggio and he just or how to do one and I was like but I don't understand your hands aren't even in the same like girl are you making that sound happen if you're you know like because you do a keyboard or whatever it's like hi here hello here and on a guitar it's like well that's if you're playing this way but you can also do finger tap and I was like no no no it's not gonna work I still have three guitars and I still plunk around on them but plunking is the absolute that's what you'd call it like it's terrible I can't even listen to it like I saw somebody try the violin I think the violin somewhat same configuration I wish I could that's a rough one isn't it yeah holy crap dude I remember being a kid and I I passed up on it my grandmother was like I'll teach a piano and she sang all the time she played piano and I passed it up and still to this day is like the one huge life changer I wish I had learned because I would love to know I mean I play it now but nowhere near as good as if I had started at that age and she was so good at it and she was like the soft fingered grandmother where she's like no she taught me Silent Night and stuff I was like oh this is pretty cool and I passed up on it you know I always thought the wind instruments were the hardest to learn because it's so I did saxophone for a while did you yeah yeah it's not okay because like what's the correct way of like blowing it like how do you write that down it's so oh dude that's the thing that I like about those if you get a maestro so one thing that impressed me for example Bill Clinton the reason why Bill Clinton won the election was because he understand understood kids which is why he was banging in the White House like he was a younger president shit's gonna happen but I remember him coming out on Arsenio Hall and Blasting it on the saxophone and I was like I'd vote for you [ __ ] like I went from like no to like if I was a voting age I'd probably vote for you I I have such a respect for people who can play like those kind of videos yeah yeah and I mean imagine how painful the sorry I was just gonna say while you're learning and you're sucking that period is so terrible because you're exposing yourself and everybody to just horrible noise or like someone and I'm sure everybody has heard someone who is trying to learn trumpet or sex [ __ ] bagpipes saxophone bagpipes it's just it's terrible it's like aggressively bad yeah do you know what's weird so teaching boxing and teaching martial arts that's the one reason why I think I I stuck with those when I was younger is because if you're younger there is no I don't look at somebody throwing a kick and they do it poorly I don't go that's ugly but with sound you can't hide it right like your practice May if you're by yourself you can shadow box and quite literally go as long as you're not mimicking a bed um like example you can learn how to box much better if you practice on your own quad but you can practice on your own quietly in a room no one can hear you but when you grab a musical instrument I think piano is not bad I see people joke about it in movies where somebody plays a piano poorly and I'm like that's nothing compared to violin I had a friend who was learning violin two doors down for me and I was like oh my God it was it's it's so terrible isn't it I guess with guitar you can do you know because I have the personal amp that goes to the headphones so that's one nice thing yeah that's better for sure yeah the most they can hear is like oh Homeless Bird says I always want to learn the cello ditch tell it turns me on I don't know why I'm sure it's where they hold the cello and stuff there's something sexual about cellos yeah yeah I remember growing up and I saw a person doing one at an orchestra and it was a girl playing the cello and I was like what's happening that's me like you touched that yeah you know what I'm saying yeah and cellos have a amazing it's like obos have a [ __ ] incredible sound oboz and cellos are like my two favorite things there's something when I hear like an oboe a good oboe in a video game soundtrack I almost always I'm like because that that's deep yeah Dan's got a multi-timber thing to it that I'm just like and if somebody really knows how to play either one of those instruments violin is awesome but something about violin I I can't pick up if somebody's good or amazing but with like oboe for some reason if somebody's really good there's something about it that sounds different I mean that happens to guitars too I'll hear somebody play guitar and I'll think they're good and then and I mean good as in let's say uh yeah you could play in a band and then I'll talk to somebody else and they're like dude he's terrible like he's just terrible and he knows he's terrible you know like I wouldn't have brought it up I was like oh yeah he's pretty good and they're like no man he's like six weeks in I'm like it sounded good to me but then you see somebody like VI play and you're all oh yeah well like people are telling stories Fleetwood Mac I remember one of the guys who played insane metal was like he could still not play one of the Fleetwood Mac songs he was like this is yeah because they do incredible like fingerings and stuff yeah I think there's one called like bleed to love you then he starts up and it's like and you're looking at it going it sounds like there's not as many strings being plucked as there are but he's like doing three at the same time and you're just like oh those guys yeah it's awesome when somebody has an amazing musical skill I think that's actually cooler than almost any other skill when somebody's really good musically and they can play I'm always jealous I'm always jealous um I play the a mean triangle my father was learning to play a violin it was hellish for everyone oh yeah I bet do you play Anything habsy You Can Do keyboard I've been I've been playing piano since I was five years old like I went through I know music theory um which made I feel like uh getting my foundation and piano and music theory made trying other instruments uh a little easier smoother because I understand things like arpeggios and chords and notes that sound well together and chord progression um but I'm planning I want to learn the saxophone I really want to learn saxophone I want to sample a lot of saxophone stuff have you guys ever noticed too there's a lot of instruments you could go to the sidewalk and play but the saxophone is the one that like to me seems more fitting so if like I was walking down the side of a street and somebody dude is just you know sitting there a little hat upside down to throw some money and he's playing the sacks I'd be like okay that's pretty cool because I've seen some people playing some Wicked [ __ ] like I saw somebody trying to do it on one of those keyboards that also has the air thing in it like I can't remember the name but it's got but it's got a keyboard and the air plays the key board and it was terrible and he was good it was just that music that it's like bagpipes whenever I hear bagpipes I'm like yeah I'll pass they sound cool but shout out to Holiday Road my father oh yeah someone invented the polo phone stacks on the beach mystery man says what else do we got anything else amazing going on in our lives um oh I started every Tuesday I I started salsa again I used to dance a lot um and now I'm back to it taking a class a gun and um you know uh we got we got socials every Saturday where you just dance with random people and stuff like that Cadiz went to like five years of multiple dance they did like not improve you know improvising he's not that kind of guy but like all of the it's always good to know how to dance because you never quite know when that you know you go to a wedding you know you don't want to be the guy who's like I don't dance yeah Chandler was it Chandler not dance and friends yeah and then and then he oh my God surprise yes Monica yes because he took dancing lessons but his shoes were too slippery and not only that remember he had learned to be the female lead remember you're right Joey learned how to dance the entire time oh dude some of those are great um yeah accordion is that what I'm talking I don't think it was the accordion I this was something different guys it was one of those side instruments that somebody created because they hated life like it wasn't a norm it wasn't an accordion I just don't know what it was um I would like to yeah I would like to pick up more dancing is I don't know it's gone out of style hasn't it like you just don't see it like it's not a thing anymore I don't even think they do I mean proms obviously but we used to have school dances all the time like maybe sticks a year yeah like every two months you do a school dance I think school dances now is just uh kids uh looking at their phones just standing in Corners what's that called now subbing stubbing where you look at your phone it's when you look at your phone when somebody's there and you ignore them using the phone oh God and oh I think that's uh when you're married it's thubbing it's the new term is Patron the best way to support ACG it's best for you because you can jump in the Discord and stuff so yeah I would say it's the best you can be a member on YouTube that helps um yeah I would say I would say Patron probably is so yeah what what else do we want to learn is there any other things that you guys would like to pick up do you guys race because here you can take your car to the track that's been a blast when I had the other car before it got totaled that was one of the things I'd love to do is go to the track so you take your own car yeah yeah you can take it to a track yeah and then they time you and your car so like if you posted another person who drives on the track that weekend can then try to beat you if they have the same car same weight limit same horse whatever yeah that was that was always fun to learn I I've always liked that kind of stuff very cool what about um either one of you guys know how to ride a motorbike no I've never never ridden the motorbike yeah I've done a lot of quad biking but I've never ridden a motor I've done uh mopeds scooters they're going to be the same thing for the most part yeah moped screw even a bicycle for the most part until you give it gas on a corner and realize that a bike doesn't do that and then you crash well friends who are like dude I've been riding bikes [ __ ] Race 10 speeds I'm like okay no problem they get on a motorbike because they or they panic and gun it the number of friends I have who end up with an ass from like from ass to back scratch on their back from falling off the back of a motorbike by gun and it is crazy love racing um bagpipe tuning is cool they need to be slightly Out Of Tune to sound right I didn't know that interesting wait a minute constant Turner that I believe that is what it was by the way I believe that that is what it was what else do we got before we wrap it up what do we have three hours and 20 minutes holy [ __ ] I I swear to God I looked and it was one hour what yeah time passed by really fast this time around holy [ __ ] any other stuff you guys are imbibing let's finish this with TV shows or movies or music I started watching uh Foundation have you guys seen that one yeah I'm in season two so give me what are your thoughts of foundation men like as a show not just an extension of the books but as a show when you think of foundation as a show you know it's a weird one I've only seen two episodes so far so I'm still kind of figuring it out I think I like a lot about it but there's something about the pacing of it that's feeling quite strange so far maybe it's just taking a little while to I think you hit the nail on the head it's disconnected and I was talking to sleeve about this because you know sleeve will remind you every day that he taught he taught movies and music all that [ __ ] not music sorry but just joking but I brought it up a sleeve I was like why does Dune the movie Dune that just came out feel disconnected emotionally from characters why does foundation feel disconnected one of the things he had said is the director you know they can choose camera angles and stuff like that and one of the problems with not problems with Foundation but it's sci-fi so it's trying to show you the background and unlike let's say Star Trek where it's on a bridge and so people are contained on a bridge so it's easier to get up close a lot of Foundations camera work is distant or pulled back and I realized that's what was bothering me I've I've got all the way to season two a couple episodes in but I'm like why is this not grabbing me like I because I love sci-fi but it's just I don't care about the characters it's not like the expanse I don't love the expanse I know everybody else does but the expanse still does a good job because it's a small ship and do you know when the expanse goes bad when they land on the [ __ ] planet and walk around and it becomes distant and you're like okay I'm not as bought into this now but when they were on the ship dude I was like legitimately I liked it which is a lot for me because yeah because they're rooting for them it's like you know it's the crew right and you see the up close every emotion if somebody yeah no God sorry sorry no I was just gonna say I I was like Foundation founded because my dad sent me a trailer and he's like yo check this out because he just started watching it okay yeah it's it's a different show oh there was a super chat glad to see you guys back live and on YouTube thanks for the content thank you Lee appreciate it um yeah it's just pulled back uh I saw people saying they watched the new season of Witcher that also is not doing well and this is why I think Cavill made a good not a good choice a good wrong choice which was to go to Superman even though it failed he's now doing Warhammer Witcher 3 is still him and it's not doing well so whatever he felt whatever pull he felt to leave also means he didn't feel enough pull to stay on Witcher 3 and I think he's made a great decision because Witcher 3 Witcher season three is not good it is really really not good compared to like the first two seasons and I think season two wasn't even that great right isn't season two considered to be a pretty big step down from season three Witcher I don't know I didn't like season one so I just didn't continue all right Johnny yeah I thought it wasn't as interesting um um were being asked what music do we listen to so recently I've actually been listening to quite a bit of synthwave which is quite different for me usually I'm more on the you know instruments Type Thing guitar driven music but it's been really really nice because it's a type of music that it's almost meditative you know you enter a type of trance in it yeah I love that kind of music what were you gonna say absy I was just gonna answer the question yeah oh I uh I like um right now I've been in a break smooth I like breaks a lot I like breaks and um you know Electronica some Electro some house but I've been on a a brakes kick because I love the I love their percussion they have this like swingy hi-hat Vibe where it's like rather than like you know what I mean it's like uh it's a cool swing kind of yeah I like it there's a lot of movement um I think I told Johnny this but I was listening to my device that tracks you in your house and it was playing what I thought was like Robert Plant and Led Zeppelin and it turned out to be Greta Van Fleet which is a newer band so it's an entire time for a good six months I was like how did who's this band because I've never heard them they sound a lot like Led Zeppelin blah blah but I gotta say I like them men there were odd musical choice for me even though I'll listen to almost anything at pretty much anything because I'm always interested in people who are good even if it's a music that like I don't like if somebody's talented or something I'll be like oh dude how you know how are they making that sound good but I got to admit man they they're surprisingly good and they've got I mean they even dress like Fleetwood Mac Led Zeppelin from the 70s like with the big white capes and like it reminds me a little bit what's the what's the group Stone Age uh something of the Stone Age I think they came around didn't they come around and have a little bit of an older look black crows kind of stuff I could be wrong yeah yeah because sometimes you get that band that comes back and sort of reinforces the old days and it sounds pretty good you know hair bands it's happened a couple times of course Nickelback's still around yeah there are a few out there that do a style similar to Boston you know the classic rock stuff yeah right yeah yeah they do a good job yeah yeah I think that's coming back to a little feel-good music you know you can only listen to Too Much Eminem before you're like all right seriously I love Eminem by the way like I think it's like one of the best like just lyrically I love listening to them but sometimes you're like can anybody talk about anything good and not like you know their daughter turning into a [ __ ] right you're just like I'm not lying like it's a bit heavy it is it is I'll be listening I'll be like dude this is awesome and then I'll look up the lyrics or or listen to lyrics on Bell I remember when he had like a album that was like super dark and then after that an album that was just comedy well his first album was you know or not yeah yeah just something goofy I used to like Kid Rock back in the day but he's sort of lost his mind I recently started getting into Massive Attack and it's been a great this is homeless oh Massive Attack is awesome are they are they Electronica too yeah they're electronic yeah yeah okay I've heard them Queens of the Stone Age heard Metallica still touring Metallica is going to tour until one of them croaks right they're like the Rolling Stones where those guys I don't think those guys well did the Rolling Stones stop touring maybe they did AC DC did for a while one that's similar to uh one that's similar to let me just political well that's similar to Massive Attack is porta's head uh I like that a lot yeah they did a cool uh a really cool cover of uh Abba's uh my wife was here and I've always joked about my eclectic like I'll have a mixtape is all over the place it makes sense to me but it makes sense to nobody else and like Abba played then Eminem then like unleash the archers my wife's like Jesus Christ just like it's like he has some kind of Alzheimer's um I will say YouTube man that's the greatest part when you go into YouTube and you watch somebody and you find somebody new there's something magical about that moment where you're like like I didn't know who pendulum was that one oh yeah slightly electronic I don't know what I don't know yeah and I heard one song and when I brought it up in Discord like Dopey Joe and you guys were like oh dude they got this one and I love that because it's almost like finding a new show yeah but it's easier because it's only three to seven minutes and then you can just find all these different songs it's done I've done it with country a couple times too which sounds weird because I know a lot of people dis on country but there'll be a country song that I'll hear and I'll be like that's actually not that bad like Hank Williams Jr I've listened to a bunch um Abba love me some Chelsea wolf I don't know who that is do you guys know who Chelsea Wolfe is nope yeah I've never heard that person well is that your phone going off I did my phone vibrate I heard I heard a vibration yeah all right well we'll wrap it up got anything oh Johnny what are you streaming I'm streaming Baldur's Gate tomorrow oh [ __ ] yeah making bad choices no saves coming because oh yeah I wasn't there yeah I am wizard I'm wizard wizard element all the elemental stuff conjuration conjuration or evocation sorry right it's evocation yeah it's the strong spells so bit Lira says I opened for unleash the archers interesting yeah unleash the archers uh I don't like all their songs but I like a lot of their stuff I am a fighter man because I knew the other characters would take the classes yeah I was just like well well I chose at first two a weapon for each hand but then I upgraded uh I think I took one Paladin level to get something uh like multi-class once that's one thing I always tell people feel free to multi-class once you're only going to lose that one you know whatever that one is a little a little loving and you're getting your butt kicked just like grab a cleric one level of cleric or something so you have like something you can use and I you know I realize that man there's you have so many skills if you multi-class it's ridiculous like it is legit ridiculous if you're attacking and you can heal yourself and maybe do like you know some kind of magic to like hurt some people around you it's like yeah it could be a tank I I went Shadow Monk and got one level in Rogue for sneak attack and it's just been so you're sneaking and then Shadow attacking out of it with the monks attack dude so I'm in a place where it's all shot it's like all dark so I could teleport anywhere turned invisible where whatever I want teleport behind enemies which gives me an advantage on attack roll like a huge advantage and I come and I sneak attack and then and then boom teleport out teleport somewhere else and [ __ ] so much fun man it's just all kind trips like you don't you don't use um other than like key points I I think when it comes down to it um there's no I I still haven't seen a class that isn't useful I mean you can you know there's you've got other people in your party to take on so if you need a Healer there's there if you need a rogue they're there if you so you can sort of do whatever you want and just enjoy playing destroy whatever you want to play yeah yeah because I mean in the end you're still controlling all four of them or five of them did you guys see the mod that lets you have 14 people in your team oh my God I tried it just for the hell of it I couldn't get it to work but I saw other people were playing and they had like eight people in their party uh they were talking about some bugs so I was like yeah I don't want to screw up a safe it's like it's like a you're you're commanding an army the time to finish a battle must be [ __ ] or maybe it's faster because you have eight guys doing damage yeah it's just like yeah and I can't remember the name but it is the most useful magic spell to me in the game and it circles the character with cherubs like Angel like Guardians that do damage so when anybody gets close I'm like and they come in and it hits them right away and it's it's such a it feels good the clouded daggers I like oh yeah clouded daggers looks awesome and that's one thing some of the Spells look like whatever but you get the occasional couple spells that look sweet and it's like oh this is awesome I love casting the doppelganger or blur yeah yeah and I love Eldritch blast so much dude what which one's that one oh yeah no I have that Sancho yeah yeah oh that's what I was fighter warlock is yeah [Music] um I I do think that like I said if you're listening and you want to play it don't worry about what class you choose go go crazy I still meta game it by choosing a class I like don't like for the second um save game we had a bunch of people who said that worked for them too where they chose a class that they did not think they would like on purpose and I I told them it's like you come into it with a different mentality if you're a drude druid because you're just like you've never been one before and sort of fun to be surprised by stuff bring a familiar in which is always fun that'll be yeah oh you're doing a ranger on another yeah with my friend uh because we're doing them we're doing air going on like a list okay I know they were pretty basic but you're doing everything role playing oh gotcha ergon and and uh and Legolas uh like role playing as them um we were going to do Lost characters because we've been watching Lost together so I was going to be like John uh warlock but I didn't think I'd like Ranger but dude you could be Sawyer yeah yeah so I would be like just like a jerk his super powers I mean every time we play D D that's the first thing I told somebody is if you play if you've never played archetype just choose a person you've seen in a show that you sort of like their idea and it will make role playing a thousand times easier because you come out of it and go oh this guy would probably do this he doesn't always ask well would this yeah I remember the first time we were playing people were like oh Robin Hood you know Kevin Costner and Robin Hood and I was like that works because that's all you need is to sort of have some thought process of what you know that person might do and it makes it so much easier for people who get into d d and there's so many options so that'll be for us speaking of options your only option is to quit thank you for listening to the podcast we appreciate it's three hours and 40 minutes in so we're gonna go thank you for the super chats thanks for watching peace out everybody and enjoy the rest of your week which is bye-bye maybe zero

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Published: Fri Aug 11 2023