Swiss Sturmgewehr 57, 7.5x55: the how and the why with Dale

[Music] [Music] hello welcome to bloke on the range I'm joined here on the sofa by a special guest Dale mr. Meacher who is a student studying in Lausanne at the moment and he probably knows more about the final nitty-gritty details of the stronger 57 SiC 510 the previous Swiss Army rifle then anyone else alive he's spent a lot of time collecting as much information as he possibly can on it downloading as many brains of people who worked with it in the insig just to try and preserve the the details of what's going on because there's not actually much talked about in the literature now in an earlier video we did the generalities of it but we have this fantastic resource here so I'm going to hand my 57 which cost me all of 300 francs beautiful and let's sort of start at the start basically this thing is a boat anchor I agree a very heavy robust boat anchor does it some five seven unloaded without magazine without magazine so loaded will be six point seven so you had a four kilo to that yeah it this is a substantial piece of steel the question is why that's a question I've been asking myself ever since I started gaining interest on the rifle and it's interesting to really get a more historical perspective on the design and the acquisition process of this particular piece of equipment and what goes into the designing and adoption and logistics and production etc etc okay so what did it have to do I mean Cape just why don't we just take a step back in the period just before this at this this was adopted so the 1950s its era when all the countries are modernizing from what they used during World War two and the Swiss were exactly the same mentor in the in the mid 50s they had k31 k-11 in front-line service LMG 25 you know squad level like machine gun which I actually pigs as well I think there are 12 or 13 keels woman has a check on that but yeah quite heavy yeah yeah and submachine gun wise they had the Swami MP 43 yup was the Swiss designation of it the rifles were issued to the individual and all the rest was clothes material because it was a unit issue and from 1955 ish onwards they had the as nfk 55 Sharpshooter rifle correct so what did they want to do with this I think this is the key to why it ended up as it as it is now the exact timeline is not exactly clear yet let me just be very clear on that we're still trying to piece together all the different bits of information from the archives and the books but what I can give you as in sort of context in general is kind of the Swiss mentality to automatic weapons after the Second World War and and how it kind of morphed into well a boat anchor so the basic idea first of all was to adopt a semi-auto rifle during the Second World War they started trials during the 40s they tried 20 or so designed some domestic and even international to try the toka revs and the GERD Garren's even some obscure finished prototype rifle called the pelo rifle which e'en from forgotten weapons probably will do a video on someday but it was not very successful because the Swiss wanted k31 accuracy from a rifle that weighed the same which when the technology at the time was impossible to achieve let's just be blunt it was not possible to achieve that kind of accuracy and so they perspective changed now the semi-auto rifle needs to be a specialist weapon equipped with a scope as a designated marksman rifle the idea being that okay it's less accurate but the scope compensates again nothing was very successful first the scopes were terrible because they even tried the tell stop did it sorry periscopic style of on the correct Cape 30 would / are dreadful 4321 yeah and build from hell broke the one of the main optical factories and Switzerland proposed the central mounted three power later for periscope that became the zenith cars 55 scope which was also tried on the assault rifles but I'm getting ahead of myself well let's just say that on the semi-auto end of things it pretty much ended but what was interesting is in the late 1940s they reactivated the Swiss intermediate cartridge trials so fir which is one of the main players and Swiss weapons technology and toggle lock obsessive exactly toggle lock obsessive everything he designed pretty much was a toggle lock he toyed around with some intermediate cartridge designs roughly in the early 20s 1922 and it was decided that because the Germans adopted the NP 44 or stg44 STG 43 whatever you'll call it this really reactivated the desire for a new assault rifle and they even captured an example and retain bird in the Swiss cartridge but again there was no equivalent of such a weapon in the swiss arsenal nobody knew what to do with it was it supposed to replace a service rifle was it supposed to replace the submachine gun not as accurate as a k31 but not exactly very powerful up to 300 metres which is the fetish range for the swiss so in terms of assault rifles project kind of dragged on in the 1950s and the project was shut down but what became this was politics one of the main really catalyzing events that kind of defined Switzerland's defense policy for the next 20 or 30 years was a Hungarian Revolution in November of 1956 I believe my history is terrible in it it it's a very complicated political situation but the Swiss are very scared because it showed that you know the Soviets meant business and they're willing to rush in with tanks crush any sort of small revolution who you're calling for a small country like Switzerland it's understandable only 300 kilometers from the from the I'm good precisely so this was crap their pants and they did crap their pants in December of 1956 that was the main date for our rifle right here because it involved the unlocking of several tens of millions of swiss fault of emergency money and it's packaged together as a so fault program or program JoJo's emergency program it's literally a knee-jerk reaction there's no other way to put it the Swiss were trialing around different types of rifles from Buffalo Big Ben and si gee I don't say sick because that refers to the American company it's an acronym so si G but the 1956 default program really pushed forward everything that is experimental and unproven we move aside and we focus on what is best right now what we can acquire for as little money as possible for you know as much effectiveness as possible and so on the table there were two rifles there was the late of often fighting bound assault rifle prototype when I mean assault rifle I mean automatic rifle in the Swiss sense he's had a side mounted magazine kind of like an FG 42 stout although the later variants kind of departed away from it initially it was a tilt lock modified to a rotating lock all the bells and whistles and you also had the am 55 which was the Chief Engineers of who dodged arms lares kind of brainchild in a sense he was the one who came up with the idea and really would define the choice what won the bid was si G because of unit pro unit cost unit price it was literally half the price of the Buffalo Big Bear model and it's still inexpensive it's still very expensive I remember rightly three thousand francs in 1980 50s money was in always at 1,000 hmm that is another very good question but just to be short it was roughly around 500 700 francs at the time whereas if off of hammock down was 1500 which is ridiculous amount of money especially when you count there for inflation I am now you told me previously that when you look at figures it's often just the the the the cosplay unit varied by trash and the first time probably probably remember the figure from the first trash which was it was 570 per rifle not including R&D because the very first rifles not only included R&D costs but also all the tooling and setup because what takes to manufacture a hundred thousand or even more rifles it's just tremendous and so that's a factor in cost so the final price was 750 or so Swiss form per rifle in 1957 so if you want to references times for for inflation so the first rifles were about three thousand bucks and as they produce more and more of these that fluid around the 2000 2500 but it's a very expensive rifle that's for sure so yeah that's it there's just politics and it was very rushed that's why the rifle kind of looks finished but also very rough it's got all sorts of bits and bobs cobbled together but it works very well the engine user that did their job but it's a very it was a very rushed project that's a short of it the engineers at the time told me they worked their butts off really they did they sent prototypes prototypes came back completely destroyed that to rebuild them because it did not have money to build new ones and send them back again do small improvements and then boom production series starts so that's the short of it so in terms of design what what did it have to replace this requirement kind of changed as time went on the initial idea was to make we're talking about two assault rifles here so with intermediate countries they called me favor machine and pistola mm-hmm so basically a souped-up super souped-up submachine gun but when the GP 11 cartridge was retained also for political reasons because of 760 to NATO adoption that ended a lot of projects in Europe including the Swiss assault rifle trials all by the way really kind of define what the rifle is right now because when you think about it the defining document really do you have it right here is this written in December of nine in 56 I believe January of 1956 and this basically defined what the Swiss assault rifle is going to be and it's going to be the universal infantryman's weapon so it's going to replace the carbine or 31 short rifles the LMG 25 like machine guns and also some of the various variants of submachine gun so this is supposed to be the do all general purpose rifle that also has the added bonus of extended range rifle grenade launching so in a 5.7 kilogram package you can say from that perspective it's quite a significant achievement yeah I mean I've not had the pleasure of shooting one full auto yet in that in the original configuration but I've watched other people shooting full auto and it's amazingly stay this beautiful amazingly stable and actually this is the reason why the bipod can be moved from a rifle position which these days we think of a position back here is silly but according to their thinking at the time their doctrine in unable to swing easily to shoot up and down hill along circle we can put it in the forward position for the light machine gun role correct now for a very long time I believe I'm correct in saying that in the felt reason in the obligatory SH you had to shoot from the rear position that is correct yeah because that was the rifle position and he was a rifle there was a rifle shooting exactly event so yeah you had to shoot from from the rear mm-hmm I really want to fly well fool to some point just to it's mechanically speaking the weapon is made for full auto that's the important thing to understand is that this is a scaled-down light machine gun of sorts not exactly a scaled-up battle rifle if you see from that perspective everything kind of makes sense yeah when you when you see the afflict in hefty ka - out the the the tender requirements it fulfills the ROM seal test - you some British slang that it does exactly what it says on the tin it fulfills it but by necessity it is a boat anchor which is why it can handle full auto fire reasonably I mean it's to a certain degree it's like the m14 slash m15 program but the other way around exact because they tried to do everything with the m14 and m15 but it was too light mm-hmm this just says stuff it we can have we can have an almost six kilo rifle and the the rifle grenades you actually have a couple of practice ones there correct and the size of these things this is this is my forearm for comparison yours - yeah these are larger than our both our forms these are massive how much they weigh there are one point 16 kilos nominally and a normal one like an energy and her jaw would be 700 800 grams yeah and what they had with the K 31 and k-11 was something similar to 7 700 750 so if we leave this over it's no joke it is no joke so this also determines weight and the fact is got a rubber butt correct um a very compressible rubber buzzer yeah and I think we should insert some of that slow motion it's a patented design they they tried with standard-issue wooden stocks and steel stocks even but after only 13 k31 rifle grenades I mind you so lighter lower recoil once they bent or broke and so with their brilliant minds they thought of a solid rubber buttstock with pre-programmed deformation areas who will show the video of it of a slow-motion footage but it's really quite an amazing piece of technology right here it's basically a hydraulic buffer in a rifle and it's a it's it's really quite impressive to watch it and then with with the various live-fire sort of propaganda things I've shown some of them before what's interesting with the things like comfort in front of me and they have to try it decorate all life fire or almost all life fire you can tell from the way the the rifles recoiling and there's one one bit in I think it's camped in front of II there's a guy shooting a little time on there and he's holding it like like this mm-hmm and he's just giving it loads from auto and the rifle just barely moves barely moves is it's it's incredible in something quite this and quite this like because for a machine gun it's super light mm-hmm no for a rifle it's super heavy mm-hmm so in terms of design features I think we mentioned this in the previous video correct over it again that's true there's it there's a whole bunch of interesting bits taken from places exactly like the sights are very similar to the FG 42 42 Lee the overall in line construction is very FG 42 and the fact that the previous models they were playing with side mounted magazines they were very much impressed by exactly the the FG 42 and as Ian says the hype is real I've not had the pleasure to fire one alive yet but I'm hopefully the day the day will come but then there's some very interesting things going on in the rear sights on there this rear side is a complete monstrosity it's 20 or 30 or so parts a Makarov pistol is 23 M just just to say this this has as many parts as a service handgun and these were actually subcontracted to a measuring tool company teza actually which is still in business for you machinists out there you might know the fine quality of their Swiss tools and these have progressive increments because of the well the piston heft the requirements and so between the different ranges you have various let's just say increments of adjustment which is not easy to achieve mechanically speaking yet so the same angle angle turn on the drum you move from like 100 100 to 200 200 to 300 300 to 400 400 to 500 but the there's not even a lot of the aperture has closed up significantly more the longer the range gets exactly just mechanically achieving this is is not simple I started wrong about 100 to 200 that's the exception but the increments increase as the range increases that's the general they had to learn this by heart by the way one exercise I did was just to put a blindfold over their eyes and count the clicks and learning the clicks by heart set range 3:40 that's the thinking at the time but mechanically speaking I spoke to the engineer who had to redesign it because the original diopters are much simpler like the fg42 fixed increments one screw thread one two three four that's simple but once the army introduced their progressive variable increment kind of business they had to introduce a whole new technology for threads if you look very carefully you can see that there are actually two screw threads in there variable pitch so the more you turn it the faster in the sense the more distance there is to the actual aperture it's absolutely crazy other bits that come from other places obviously it's a it's a it's a roller delayed correct low back so don't go a 45 set me mm-hmm except now the fundamental question is where did the inspiration came from and it's interesting to actually read clearly it's actually interesting to read who da da da which I remind is the chief engineer who was responsible for this project what were the origins of this roller delayed system it's actually the mg 45 oMG 45 corrects that which is why which explains a square volt the main influence through this rifle ft 42 I agree but I would say the sort of the twist style of buttstock the inline design was also incorporated in the German general purpose machines and so interestingly enough the very first am 55 prototypes which what they called it internally before they change over to the sig 510 designation used modified mg42 bolts because the Swiss toyed around with the mg42 design of a family gown NS IG which became the mg 51 so they had access to ng 42 s and they were aware of simplifications from the Germans to a half locked or roller delayed setup so this system right here has more to do with the mg42 then the stronger vert 45 or they give it zero six so Coleman which is pretty interesting because that means that this started out as a machine gun bolt not an assault rifle bolt which is the contrary to what a g3 bolt is kind of a scaled-up assault rifle bolt this was supposed to be yeah michael calendar you can you can see the link from the Loretto six / still about 45 and the g3 but it really is a so that's the scale up version of the other the the strange yp8 ejector [Music] again it has to do with the requirements requirements were the rifle had to eject softly which on a roller delayed blowback rifle is very difficult to achieve without any sort of weird funky mechanical stuff and the swiss did this quite nicely we also have the slow-motion footage of the whole kinematics of the bolt with a cutaway it's a receiver which is pretty impressive all cut that in g3s by the way ejecting really violently because i've actually caught empties from a g3 in the chest in a t-shirt and I didn't do damage but he went out they come out really fast you can understand that for the Swiss especially a neat little firing ranges it's not exactly to their interest to have the rifle toss the brass out to three lanes downwards yeah it really just does does flop them out the side face first exactly base first which is the secret to the softness of sorts and the only way really to achieve this is through a very unusual ejection system there is no technical extractor in the system that's one of the advantages of roller delayed blowback is that as long as the case is well supported it pretty much it pretty much extracts itself that's the whole purpose yeah I look people don't realize that the extractor on a on a on a blowback is there to support the casing to enable you to extract an unfired exactly an unfired round that the the people often say things like and the extractor rips the rips the case head off its which is not the case because the extractor is passive the case stretches itself be honest yes I her case grips the front of the chamber and blows its own back off rip he doesn't get ripped off if it was being ripped it would be ripped through which on occasions ar-15s will do will do this they'll tear through the rim if the brass is a bit soft and and the case hangs up in the chamber obviously avoided in most Roland most delayed blowback systems with fluted chamber to chamber floating the gas and prior to that with lubrication exactly solid or or liquid now what is nation interesting to mention is that the requirements also specifying the requirements do not change up until the end of streaming of air production is that the streaming of air 57 was supposed to accept both steel-cased and brass cased ammunition and that's very important because the parameters between these two case materials vary wildly especially in a roller delayed blowback system what's the French found with the early pharmacist mm-hmm that they would really only run well on steel brass would just be what was pretty horrible in them 11 later what the g2 s who handle brass fine correct but due to material shortages during the war the Swiss went over to a lot of ammo production lacquered steel and I believe I've got some upstairs even that are 1947 dated so even after the war it seems they continued to continue doing that but I will I will check my collection to see if I'm misremembering mm-hm I've already miss remembered that prices today and entirely forgot about the mg 45 there's a lot of just stuff what it has to do with the rifle I mean the amount of information that is out there and still waiting to be discovered is just tremendous which is why it's very fulfilling to find every little nugget and really to incorporate into the big picture so lots of you here you're mentioning that there's all sorts of interesting stuff going on with the the muzzle break eraser it is a muzzle break with flash suppression exact ability it's not a flash suppressor with muzzle brake capability it's designed as a brake so now this has to do with arms doors vision of the rifle because interestingly the very early am 55 prototypes only weighed 4.3 helos so it wasn't exactly his choice to make it heavy and so when you have that light of a rifle it is interesting to reduce as much recoil as possible and this is done through all the the choreography of parts inside the rifle which is why it's so beautiful is that the roller delayed system is very well designed and when you pair that with a very effective muscle to a very simple and effective muzzle device it's pretty much a banger right there and you know how effective they are when you're lying down next to one exactly the more unpleasant a muzzle break is for your neighbors the the more effective it is pretty much definition but it also has to interface with the rifle grenade correct so this is one of the difficulties and one of the peculiarities with the slim giver muzzle device is that it's integrally machined into the barrel everything here is one solid part if you take for example the g3 rifle the rifle grenade slippering is integrated in the birdcage flash hider which is threaded on but the Swiss really went out of their way to integrally machine into it and when you look at the drawings of the barrel the tolerance is in there are absolutely ridiculous just the amount of effort they have to put through to make this is really quite incredible but the the standardized diameter right here of 22 millimetres kind of imply that they probably meant this to be compatible with NATO standard rifle grenades but it wouldn't surprise me because the Swiss despite being neutral aligned with NATO exactly in as many areas as they could they didn't with with caliber until the showing of a 90 and even then their ammo isn't NATO spec because it's got a conventional FMJ Corral for improved accuracy so it's not NATO standard ss109 fodder but they they trained with NATO they they did come sport commando competitions in NATO countries the Jets were NATO that they trained that pilots trained with NATO that just because you're neutral doesn't mean that you can't accurately assess who you're gonna be fighting against and that's something people really don't get about about Swiss neutrality and and and neutrality politics the it doesn't mean you you have to be on your own yeah you don't have to be isolationist you don't have to okay you can't officiate you can't officially say okay we're equipping ourselves on aligning ourselves against the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact but as long as you're not you don't say it it's fine you can do it exactly and that's exactly what they what they did during the Second World War because of the political situation being surrounded by the axis they did the same the same thing the Swiss mobilized the army against Germany mm-hm they had a legal agreement with the French mm-hm once France fell like everything was aligned against Germany they just couldn't say the enemy because that was against neutral matically and korea was diplomatically incorrect but they didn't have to they didn't have to pretend mm-hmm and a lot of the the revisionism since the 90s is is a rather annoying on on this on this front of claiming that Switzer was a neutral blah blah blah because they tried to a German oh yeah because they had to not die of starvation or cold that's kind of the main purpose of surviving exactly but anyway on that little little digression there is also an expert on on the rifle grenades and I think we'll we'll save that for another for another day because it's all sort of it's fascinating you could this is a weapon on its own to be honest let's just do this just just just just just quickly do the bases of this so infantryman did they all carry these depends on the loadout but the basic idea is the whole purpose of a rifle grenades in general is without modification to the standard standard and that's very important firearm to basically have extra firepower anti-tank capability anti-tank anti-personnel and smoke these are the three varieties of combat ammo but if you if you think of what the Warsaw Pact tactics were it was Drive armored vehicles full of troops as close as they could get into enemy positions Dee bust them and have them run in firing firing on the move while while moving with armored support with mix was terrible yeah so what this is what is a force multiplier for countering that kind of that kind of attack I mean there would have been no point in the Swiss developing something specifically to counter NATO offensive tactics because they didn't treat having have it in terms of in terms of a European thing I mean professionally officially officially NATO countries offensive tactics seem to be rather more small-scale correct conflict stuff there wasn't this sort of mass as well Sean effect I mean NATO's battle plan in Western Europe was to sit in trenches and worry about zillions of armored vehicles full of full of Warsaw Pact troops so this is this is very much to give the infantryman a way to counter that he's in an absence of his own proper dedicated anti-tank salute now what is interesting is to find the hierarchy of anti-tank weapons so this is detailing some of the manuals and what is interesting is that the Swiss positioning on the rifle grenade is that it's the lowest best available anti-tank weapon before improvised techniques which improved include sorry Molotov cocktails so basically this is your last resort if your rocket launcher which is more a company like based weapon it's incorporated in one single squad in the company if you're right sorry your rocket launcher is down well you have two of these and your combat vets that I'm carrying depending on your loadout and you have a decent chance actually against the the armed vehicles because the rifle grenades the anti-tank varieties can penetrate 300 millimetres of steel armor rh8 to be more precise and they have the same warheads as the rockets so the effectiveness is the same you're just using a different launcher and the effective range effective range here's the the more hazy part what is important to mention is that what is interesting about these and fifty eight rifle grenades the Gavigan an after offense is that there are all equipped at least for the combat ammo with a rocket booster not only are these the heaviest rifle they also have a rocket motor inside them so you technically this is a rocket for about 100 milliseconds that's the idea so instead of just relying on the launching cartridge which is basically a cartridge with no bullet you also have a rocket motor that pushes us to 70 meters per second 1.16 kilogram projectile from a rifle that is of average weight which is pretty terrifying to fire so the effective range that you can expect of an average infantryman is 50 meters but officially it's 100 meters but I can tell you that a tank and a 100 meters that's moving is very small and very difficult to hit and when you take into account the fact that rifle grenades takes a few seconds to get there fat chance yeah and in an indirect fire indirect fire what's interesting about this whole rocket booster assembly is that you the soldier can select whether he wants to use this rocket launcher this rocket booster sorry or not but when the rocket motor you can expect a range of roughly 400 meters which is pretty decent and without the rocket motor it's about 140 meters and this is reflected on the bipod that mike is showing me we've got there is a scale on the bipod and you hang your Swiss Army knife off of the bayonet lug and aim it roughly and then use the winter trigger which cuts out there so it doesn't break your hand which is pretty convenient yeah not breaking your hand is a is a big deal but that was part of the spec was it not was the correct to trigger this is technically not exactly a winter trigger they only call it this for simplification yeah the whole purpose of this lever this trigger lever that's what they called it initially is to fire rifle grenades without breaking your index finger off because that was the main issue with the carbine or 31 and 11 rifle grenades is well the idea was you just kind of stuck your finger in there and just coax it off lots of injuries with the index finger and this is basically an index finger saver you with the short grenade launching magazine you basically have open space have you going this requires a special magazine by the way which makes it even more interesting will do this in detail another time if Dad will come back because the the rifle grenades are just such a fascinating topic I would do it over do an overview here and of the big points of the bend in the in the in the trigger lever is away from the magazine exactly so when the weapon recalls the index finger just is clear from anything yeah so that's really a this whole thing was made for rifle grenades and automatic fire which again explains the weight and with k31 accuracy which is the infantry force multiplier against pretty crazy stuff it so it's it's really crazy stuff it's they are fascinating toys now what let's just get back at the plot what was the main competitor the main competitor was there were two main competitors the one being the FAL I just happen to have one here as you did very convenient this is the this is a British one let me just buy part yeah without it flopping over so but the Swiss actually reach aim bird a particular FAO in GP 11 there's one in the rogue I'm attacking that is exactly the the weapon itself and the consensus was the weapon is nice but it's not accurate enough and it can't do all the rest exactly this info out of fire is the no-go and for rifle grenades you're gonna break the buttstock yeah a rifle grenade that big I mean fat chance Brits used these with manager number 94 so that were the cold and a guy in a jar energiya Koran with a launcher that who fit on the end zone bigoted they're really not man enough for it to be honest though there's a pouch on the side of the right and my pouch there's a thing for the launcher that a lot of the old and bald said they were basically never never issued its is not to it they they had cargo stars and mmm-hmm platoon level and later than at the 66 I remember I actually read some I failed manuals just to see what other countries rifle grenade added to your life and apparently to fire indirect you have to flip the rifle upside down and rest it against well at least try to avoid as much of the axis of the stock as possible in the sense you want to align as much of the stock to the ground so it kind of shows you you know the risks of firing this on hard ground you'll probably break this it's not exactly flimsy but it's not made for that yes the shocks are just too great so the little pouch for the energy launch ended up being used for my fork spoon sets and things it's kind of convenient for that we're or a Mini Maglite things like that but I mean here it's a two-part hinged construction mm-hmm which not held on a pin and a lug there the the interface between the upper and the lower is yeah if there's any off force there it's gonna break yeah or at least wear and that is a totally in line linear massive it's it's a it's a forged and machined interface massive interface between 22 for that purpose mm-hm now in terms of rifle as rifle I don't there's any contest this rifle is clearly more accurate its recoil operated there's no piston with off forces on the barrel there are the barrel is cold hammer-forged heavier profile probably better quality at least enough for the Austrian ones which are also cold hammer-forged and the fact that you have pretty much perfect headspace every time which is another kind of overlooked aspect of roller delayed blowback is that everything is in contacts and when the shot happens in terms of brute accuracy but in terms of a rifleman rifle for an infantryman that is just meant to be a rifle well there's really no contest is yeah this is pretty hair is it this was the right arm of the free world a very very good reason and that is a very that is the Swiss conditions and about the what they wanted to do with it so should we wrap it up here when you agree to come back and talk rifle grenades and other things there's a heck of a lot of stuff it's a whole ecosystem yeah I've been telling me out of it by by Facebook message this is absolutely fascinating cruisers and I think it's great that you're going into such detail on it because there's literally hardly any information on it this is the first time we publish this kind of information yeah I think so so this is all pretty fresh stuff yeah and hopefully one day we'll be able to put this nicely in a book in the near future yeah maybe yeah I hope so so thank you very much for accepting like x-ray of you and I hope that was at least vaguely interesting certainly interesting for me because I'm literally I'm sitting here picking bales brains because I know little tidbits that lead me to ask ask sensible questions and really you've done all the work here so it's a hobby so thank you very much for coming I would mention patron and stuff with you you should set up a patreon thing for a stumble of 57 book that's could be or a GoFundMe or something does that be a that would be good your state your students so in principle you have time my parents don't know about this oh they do now so yeah if Dale sets up something like that we'll put it a link and link in the description I would like a good shown graffiti seven book to be a to be written so I'll lean on you to try and do that and then we'll have you back to talk come scary flying carrots yeah I like that okay I've got to take a photo of this and insta spam me now it's the scary flying carrot and everyone's giving up so thanks for watching thank you very much bye you

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Keywords: weapons (interest), shooting (sport), milsurp, stgw 57, stg 57, Sturmgewehr 57, swiss, rifle, 7.5x55, gp11, 7.5

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Length: 39min 37sec (2377 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 03 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/tshiar]

The video goes more in depth into the history of the StG 57 and covers topics/details not included in Ian's video of the StG 57 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y73Zcg9icJc ).

[u/roosterinmyviper]

Is this even legal? Posting a non- c&rsenal or forgotten weapons or inrangetv video?

[u/Remington_Underwood]

An LMG for every soldier.

[u/Guyzo1]

That is a truly forgotten weapon.