Q&A 35: Books, Black Powder, and Why the DP12 is So Annoying

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Magazine coupling systems - good or bad?

i used the g36 system when i was in the military. it's an absolute pain in the ass when you're trying to put magazines in magazine pouches, the connectors at the side of the magazine act like little hooks that catch on the edge of the pouch. it's basically always a two-handed operation.

shooting with multiple mags attached to one gun is also not very practical, since it tilts the gun to one side. the gun also get considerably heavier with each mag.

the system makes handling a large number of magazines a lot easier, though. the armoury guys always stacked them together in bundles.

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I always love just how informative Gun Jesus can be. The part about manufacturing the sks with a fixed mag never made sense until now.

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There’s no way I’m watching an hour and 20 minutes of this...

1 hour and twenty minutes later...

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It`s also useless in PUBG

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Is this the first QnA ever where there are no like 10 β€˜what if’ questions about lever guns? Hooray

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hey guys thanks for tuning in to another forgotten weapons a question and answer video this is I believe number 35 which is a little crazy that we've done that many of them hey right I'm Ian McCallum and all of our questions today as always come from the awesome folks who support forgotten weapons on patreon if you'd like to get your own question into one of these videos go ahead and sign up there's a link in the description text below and about a week or so before I film each one of these I put up a request for questions on patreon so without further ado our first question today is from Dale who says why were there so few 380 acp military handguns compared to 32 and I'm not entirely sure that I agree with the premise of the question I think the reason that you see more 32 caliber designs comes from situations where civilian guns were kind of pressed into military service for example World War one in Germany where they needed more pistols than the military was manufacturing and so they were willing to buy kind of anything and 32 acp was a very popular civilian cartridge and so it became kind of de-facto a fairly popular military cartridge in World War one however I think if you look at guns that were actually designed and implemented or purchased outside of wartime conditions by military forces you'll actually find a fair number of 380s the ones that came to mind for me were of course the Walther pp and PPK which were made in both calibers the cz 38 was in 380 exclusively the Beretta Model 34 the 35 was in 32 but the Beretta Model 34 widely used by the Italian military and well liked that was in 380 Colts pocket hammerless the Colt 1908 was made in 380 those were purchased by the US military not in huge numbers but overall really I think both calibers were equally equally applicable for the sort of compact sidearm purpose that the military had in mind the full nine says the trial guns and ammunition for the ng SW next generation support weapon program have been revealed do you think any of them will have merit and if the u.s. does adopt a new caliber will the French recruit those hk416 so I had like three or four people asked me some version of this question and the fact of the matter is I've seen some of the pictures and news stories about some of these next-generation weapon prototype submissions but I don't know anything about the internals of any of them and so I'm really not in any position to comment on the the technical pros or cons of any of these guns that said I'm very skeptical that the US would actually adopt at this point a new caliber or even a new rifle to replace the m16 I can see them replacing the m249 potentially but with something else in five five six because I don't think they're interested in having separate ammunition logistics for rifles and squad automatic weapons so I'm hoping actually that at SHOT Show this year some of these NGS w guns will be available from various you know manufacturers on display because I'd love to get a closer look at them and I'd love to talk about them once I know something about them chaddy says do you generally keep up with the firearms industry and if so are there currently some cool gadgets or accessories that get you excited so I'm sort of do like not not hugely in-depth but I try to keep an eye on what's actually happening and up the things that are happening basically none of them have me particularly excited or enthusiastic not that they're bad just there really isn't anything fundamentally new I really like the growing trend of red dots on pistols I think that makes a lot of sense and it is the way of the future people just haven't fully recognized it yet but beyond that you know things I think marketing departments are hard-pressed to come up with good way good reasons to make you believe that this year's new release is something that is you know groundbreaking and innovative because most of it's just not Mitchell says seeing as the Russians were already issuing millions of detachable magazines for their submachine guns by the end of or two why did they go why did they opt to go with a fixed magazine on the sks surely they'd see the advantages of detachable magazines during the war was it for production efficiency or just clouded judgment by an adoption committee well I would I'm again going to debate the premise of the question obviously the Soviet Union did go with a fixed magazine for the SKS and if you look at some of their developmental prototype guns late in World War two early after World War two they were also looking at a bunch of designs that had and block clips to them and I think what was going on there was they were looking at a rifle with about a ten round capacity because that was kind of standard that was you know that's what you could that made good sense that was good enough and it didn't create his protruding magazine that got in the way of shooting when you were prone or catching on things and I think what they found especially with the SVT is that using detachable magazines means you have to have really good manufacturing tolerances on those magazines to actually make them reliable and make them interchangeable between guns or else you end up with a situation kind of like the ppsh where the drum magazines aren't really necessarily interchangeable between guns and that's a problem so with a submachine gun there's no way around a detachable box magazine you're not gonna make a fixed stripper clip fed submachine gun with a rifle however if you're only expecting to have a 10-round magazine being able to permanently build that magazine into the gun so that it can't get lost so it's a lot less liable to get damaged and so that you can permanently build the feed lips and feed path into the receiver into nice heavy milled metal bits instead of any sheet metal magazine bits I think a lot of that makes a lot of sense now once you get beyond a 10-round magazine I think that's where the detachable magazine really becomes the obvious better solution but it's not because the magazine is detachable so much as it's because the stripper clip or n block loading system is no longer practical once you get above ten rounds mike says hey Ian I have found my interest in collecting firearms drifting towards the Springfield trapdoor and to cry organs and rifles do you know of any good books I can use to start with well I'm not entirely sure on the trapdoor there are a number of books out there and I haven't done enough detailed reading through them to be able to give you any good advice on which are good and which part I will say for a basic level there are north cape publications books on both the trapdoor and the crag that's definitely the easiest thing to get into and that'll have some some good introductory information for you and that may hold you for a long time if you get deeper into the crag there are really only two good books that you will want to be on the lookout for naturally they are both out of print one of them is the crag rifle by Brophy Brophy was a US military officer smart guy like books by Brophy or worth having the other is the Krag rifle story which is co-authored by Frank Mallory and Ludwig Wilson Ludwig Olson also wrote a notable early book on mauser bolt-action rifles so these are both out of print if you want to get over here if you want to get deep into the Krag these are the two books to keep an eye out for us they're gonna be expensive unless you manage to find one like at a book store that doesn't know what they're worth or a gun show table it doesn't know what what they're worth Joe says what would you consider the ideal setup for classic division at desert brutality 2020 to be so a little background for those of you who aren't familiar with well desert brutality at all it is the to gun sort of like a to gun national style of match that in range TV runs Carl my co-host over there is he's done he does the the stage design and kind of sets the tone for the match it is a combination of practical shooting and physicality and it is awesome it is the most entertaining most enjoyable match of the year for me and this year we have slightly changed the equipment divisions so the first two days of the match are going to be specifically for classic and retro and classic division is equipment that existed before 1946 or in 1946 and earlier so it's basically world war two and before retro is 1946 or 47 through what was it like 86 basically Cold War era vintage military gear so if you are in classic I think there's a pretty clear obvious best rifle to use and that would be the Sturm Guevara I have heard rumors that we actually have someone who's coming this year with a transferable live original full-auto Sturm Guevara which will be super cool honestly the full-auto capability isn't gonna be of much practical use in the match if you had a semi-auto PTR 44 that would be a fantastic match rifle to use for desert brutality 2020 to pair that with a pistol I think really kind of the obvious pistol for you know World War 2 and earlier timeframe would be a browning hi-power that's gonna get you basically the the most modern gun high capacity or high ish capacity that you can get so mr. McGovern the high power and if I had access to a PTR 44 I would love to run that myself next up no nuke says has forgotten weapons evolved in in a in a teamwork over the years or do you still do all the work by yourself I actually still do everything myself I do the filming and I do the editing well filming like this is done largely with a tripod grow on smile I'll get someone to help me with holding a camera running a camera but as a general rule it's all me the filming the editing the uploading if you talk to forgotten weapons on social media that's me because there's no one else doing it Matthias says I am interested in semi-automatic firearms using non smokeless powders can you mention some semi successful designs and types of black-powder loads they were using I just wonder how close we would have gotten to true machine guns if smokeless never appeared I hate to burst the bubble Mathias but I don't think we ever would have gotten a true functional machine gun or even a truly functional semi-automatic firearm without smokeless powder the problem is black powder leaves so much residue behind when it burns that you simply it it destroys the capacity to have a truly reliable self loading firearm self operating firearm if you have a gas-operated firearm that gas port gas plug are all going to foul up very quickly and stop working if you have a recoil-operated firearms what most of the the the guns that came close to becoming successful and the one the only one I could really point out would be the maxim gun Maxim did his initial developmental work before smokeless powder was developed and in fact right right when that happened he was in the process of trying to develop some sort of mechanical filter system that could help clear some of this powder fouling out with Henry shot that of course that that development got dropped because smokeless powder showed up and it was unnecessary but I mean Maxim's gone I don't think would ever have become popular in the way that it did had it not been for smokeless powder anyway the early guns like Maxim's were recoil-operated rather than gas because that gas system is an obvious obvious weakness with smoke black-powder recoil operated guns are still going to have their own issues as powder fouling accumulates in the barrel you're going to be increasing chamber pressure because you're going to have to be compressing that powder felling down more and more with bullets going down the bore that's going to change the recoil characteristics of the gunshot to shot and eventually how many dozens or hundreds of rounds can you fire before you simply have to clean the barrel and if you have to be cleaning the barrel relatively frequently machine gun is not all that practical in a military sense at least so yeah without smokeless powder there would not have been successful repeating well successful self loading firearms our next question is Doug take a sip here filming this a little bit earlier in the day today so that is not scotch that is good smoky tea alright Doug is the Mosin Nagant a bad rifle compared to its contemporaries it's gotten a bit of a reputation as an inaccurate Soviet garbage rod is there any truth to this I own six different Muslims myself and while there are certainly obsolete for any military now I've never found any of them to be pieces of junk that many claim they are but I might just be looking at them in red Russian shellac tinted glasses I would say both yes and no so was the Mosin Nagant inferior compared to the other bolt-action military rifles of its day yes I think it was I think the design is not as good as the other major contenders most notably the Mauser and I would also put the Enfield the the smle system in that category the Lee is better than the Mo's and the Mauser is better than the Mo's and a lot of the mainstream systems are better than the Mosin it's system for cartridge interruption and the are on the bottom of the bolt are just not great ideas that said that doesn't mean the gun is worthless it's still a reliable mostly reliable effective rifle it's not the best but that doesn't mean it's worthless so garbage rod is just a mean thing people like to get you get a little kernel of truth and people like to then grow it into an extreme case and garbage rod has become a nice Mimi way for people to make fun of people who like Moses or can't afford $1,000 German k98 ke because those prices are stupidly high and so they buy a Mosin instead and well obviously you've got to have some way to insult those people right so hence garbage drugs I have a selection of mosin-nagant myself and like they're very cool historical items for what they are I wouldn't try to pass them off as the best bolt-action ever ever developed but I'm also quite happy to go out and shoot them david says you've described several bipods as the worst bipod ever the mg42 and the A to B AR come to mind even some modern designs leave something to be desired why do you think it's so hard to design goodbye pod the same reason it's so hard so to speak to design a good much of anything reliant regarding firearms and that is competing preferences everything is a trade-off everything is a compromise you can have a bipod that is very light you can have a bipod that is very strong you can have a bipod that is very simple you can have a bipod that is very flexible and adaptable to different situations you cannot have all these things together at the same time because they are mutually exclusive the stronger you make it the heavier you make it you want it light it's gonna be weaker you want it simple is going to be less flexible so you get some designs like let's say the show shop iPod there is basically just two dowel bars on on a pivot that thing is very cheap it is very simple those are some of the key characteristics that its designers we're looking for and it fulfills that well it's also kind of a pain to use it's not particularly user-friendly the VAR bipod is adjustable for height it's got a nice big feet so that it doesn't sink in and it's really darn sturdy you are not going to break a VAR bipod as a result it's also very heavy it everything is compromises and so what you'll see is someone who thinks X is the worst version of this ever is generally speaking the person whose priorities are farthest from the priorities of the design team for the thing in the first place Christian says what are your thoughts on the magazine coupling systems used on the sig 550 and g36 are they practical or do they have little no use in a combat environment so these are of course the magazines that have little clippies on the side and you can stack two magazines together which is sort of the practical thing to do or you can stack like 12 of them together for an Instagram picture which is also a popular thing to do I'm a little torn on these because part of me thinks like you're adding a lot of weight to the rifle you've got an exposed magazine that's really easy to get dirt into now the one that whatever one's hanging off the side of the gun depending on the design sometimes they interfere with operating controls on the firearm depending on how you set them up they could theoretically interfere with the ejection port guns like the sig and the g36 have these built into the magazines but of course the exact same concept gets used by people with extra little accessories to clamp magazines together whether they are fancy commercial ones or a piece of cardboard and some duct tape and we actually see this going really quite a ways back so not that long ago we did some video with a Marlin UD 42 those things came from the factory with magazines that were doubled up so you had a 20 round magazine on the front facing up and there was a 20 round magazine on on the back side of it you know or welded to the front of it facing down and to reload you pulled the thing out flipped over stuck it back in and my assumption the the more I think about it is this idea comes up so often across the whole spectrum of military of countries and time periods and conflicts that clearly a lot of people think it has value at least some value and clearly it's never been so much of a failure that everyone realizes that it's bad and stops using it I've never actually been in a combat zone of course I cannot give you a first-hand account of is this thing actually good or bad but the fact that so many people turn to this idea both individually in the field and like factory design teams tells me that it almost certainly has to have some value at least in some circumstances so whether it's the right thing for you of course is going to depend on what your circumstances are Ryan says you've often stated accurately that small arms like rifles and machine guns caused only a small percentage of casualties in a modern war 5% if I recall correctly with around 80% caused by artillery these numbers vary they of course depend on what conflict you're talking about since rifles inflict maybe 1% of casualties and no no idea where that number comes from but is equipping your rifle your troops with up-to-date rifles simply a way to make them feel well equipped if morale wasn't a consideration with the outcome be exactly the same if gave them all single-shot muskets since the rifles contribution to battlefield casualties is trivial and I would say the answer is definitely no I think the element that you're leaving out here is that small arms fire does more than just kill and wound people it also has a moral effect if when when one unit takes a position from an opponent they don't do it by literally killing everyone who is in that position they do it by causing the people in that attacked position to come to the conclusion that this position is untenable and if they stay there they probably will get killed and so they leave and retreat to find a more defensible more tenable position especially when you see flanking attacks flanking fire these are ways to pin it in a group down prevent them from shooting back and open them up to close assault so if you have decided with the more effective small-arms is going to be better able to do all of that stuff and it doesn't necessarily mean everything if if that results in more casualties or not because ultimately warfare isn't necessarily about casualties it's about taking objectives and ground and if you can take the ground by causing the enemy to flee from the ground and then you just capture them later that's a perfectly valid outcome that's in fact a very nice outcome so so no I don't think rifles and small arms they're the technological comparisons between them are pointless they may not turn into casualties directly but they do have a definite effect on the outcome of battles Tristan says you frequently mention that what makes weapons good is lots of development like how the m16 pattern has had 60 years of development to make it a great rifle what do you think the weapons that didn't get that development like the FN FAL DM - the MAS 49 etc would look like now if they had gotten decades of attention and honestly I think they would look from the outside pretty much the same the m16 of today doesn't look that different from the m16 of Vietnam aside from some of the extra stuff that's gotten bolted on what has made the m16 today such a reliable and effective weapon is really an understanding of the exact tolerances and the minutiae that goes into manufacturing it which by the way is why a properly made good ar-15 can be exquisitely reliable and effective in a bargain-basement crap ar-15 it can still be a geomatic piece of junk what especially if you look at the l85 the british saat program what you'll find is that it was this attention to small details quality control in the production line tolerances between parts stacking tolerances understanding very very minut characteristics of parts in operation that's what allows you to build a really truly reliable and high-quality firearm so it's not really the outside design at all you'll see the outside design change more based on where like the circumstances that the guns intended to be used in with the MAS 49 you see it being cut down to the moss 49:56 pattern shortened up the barrel improve the grenade launching capability but no that is really fundamental to the guns mechanics that's because they decided that they wanted to use it in a different way what you do see is little incremental developments and improvements between the MAS 44 and 49 and 49 56 on the internal components that you can't even see from the outside that make it a more and more reliable gun and that's the same thing same thing that happened with the m16 family all right Louis says hey Ian I love the channel thank you possibly a silly question why was the 303 British cartridge designed with a rim well the same reason that a lot of early cartridges if not most early cartridges were designed with rims and that is for head spacing so headspace is the measurement between the front of the bolt and the back of the barrel or rather between the front of the bolt and any given specific datum related to the chamber the idea is to control exactly how much space there is between bolt so today with rimless cartridges we typically measure headspace based on the shoulder of the the cartridge case because that is a clearly definable datum point and the face of that of the bolt on early cartridges a lot of them were basically straight walled or they had a single continuous taper and there was no good datum point in that cartridge to measure off of you might be able to measure off the front of the cartridge case but quality control was such that overall length the case might vary a little bit and if you instead use a big solid rim at the back of the case to set your headspace you make a lot of things easier a lot of these early cases especially for example take a look at five set four fifty five seventy seven 577 450 the the British martini-henry cartridge the thing was made of like brass foil it is a very delicate cartridge and there's not a point on it where on that like on the shoulder where you could just jam that thing into the into the chamber and get a good repeatable measurement off the shoulder instead where you have a lot of material that can be reliably sized and used for this is the rim on top of that with these early cartridge designs you didn't have repeating mechanisms that we're trying to feed cartridges through a mechanical system like a magazine and so having this big protruding rim wasn't a problem in fact it made some things easier it made it easier to design extractors that could hook over this big rim and reliably pull a cartridge case out if you're talking about revolvers it makes it very easy to have a star style extractor mechanism that can pull all the cartridges out of the cylinder at the same time so ribbed cases made a lot of sense in fact they were the best option until you start getting magazine feeding firearms and so so what you see is when people start designing magazine firearms but they're still using these old old-style rimmed cartridge casings they tend to look for systems like magazine like tube magazines where the cartridges are stacked nose to tail so the rims aren't in position to interfere with each other and you can design good reliable feeding mechanisms for a rimmed cartridge in that style which is for example why we still have two magazines on the vast majority of shotguns that are produced shotgun cartridges still have that rim on them and a tube magazine made a very reliable feeding source for them alright our next question is from Jacob who says when did the idea of three-round burst become popular for select fire weapons was this studied before World War two and put into action after was this something that came about when countries started pinching pennies so the first burst firing gun that I am aware of is the breed up eg from 1935 so yes development or research into this sort of thing definitely did predate World War two however it didn't really become popular until the late 70s or even the early 1980s that's when you see it in US service with the m16a2 you'll see the French introduce it on the FAMAS FAMAS was introduced in the late 70s but the burst mechanism was kind of a little bit like the last thing they added and didn't show up for the first couple of years until the early 80s you'll see it in German in HK weapons from about the same time period and the rationale for it was increased accuracy and reduced ammunition consumption and these two things are both based on the assumption that your troops are not going to be well enough trained to limit their use of full auto independently so you know it's perfectly perfectly capable perfectly easy to fire three round bursts with a machine gun set to unlimited full auto you simply have to develop it's not even that much a little bit of practice on trigger control and you can easily fire three round bursts most things you can easily fire two round bursts slower firing guns it's very easy to fire single shots on full auto however you do have to have some practice and if you're going to be a military that's going to give its troops a tiny amount of actual live-fire practice during any given time period well maybe your troops aren't actually going to have that sort of skill development so if that's the case what you can do instead is mechanically limit them to three rounds so they don't have to learn trigger control all they have to do is just gank down on that trigger and it'll only fire three rounds and then it's gonna stop firing and there you go oh I guess I have to do it again lamb and fire another three the objection to this is that if someone does this in a you know you're trying to get away from like the panic fire hold the trigger down dump the magazine and out empty kind of thing well it's just as easier for someone to do that on three round bursts like they could on semi-auto but three rounds at a time and your ammo lasts a few seconds longer but not much there is also this idea that you know the first couple of rounds from a machine gun in full auto are going to hit the target and the remainder are going to go very high so if you don't have the remainder by mechanically limiting the gun then presto your accuracy improves generally speaking these I find these sorts of mechanically limited triggers a lot more difficult to work with if you actually do have good practice on regular trigger controls so I think that kind of their thing where if you have minimal training there are some maybe justifiable reasons to use them but if you're willing to to give people practice opportunity or any sort of decent training you really don't need them and they actually cause problems the m16a2 was a particularly crummy the design of three round burst mechanism in that it didn't actually ever reset and it was it was cycling during semi-auto fire as well and so what you ended up with was actually three distinctively different trigger poles depending on where this birch burst firing ratchet was which was really difficult for guys to use in say long range marksmanship competition you kind of want to know your trigger pole and having a change rant but not randomly but having it changed sequentially every time you pull the trigger doesn't help things fortunately I think we have seen a lot of countries realize that and maybe increase some training standards because burst mechanisms are not nearly as popular now as they were back in like the 80s so it's nice to see them mostly going away I will point out there is there's one other area where they make a bit more sense or their more justifiable and that is for gun that have a very high rate of fire so the one that immediately comes to mind for me is the HK vp70 which is firing at something like 1,800 rounds per minute as a shoulder stock pistol and it has a really atrociously heavy trigger pull and that is I think that is the first gun I'd ever fired where I was unable to fire anything less than three rounds with a trigger pull and it was very very helpful to actually have that burst limiter what you penny got was not a three round not not a trigger that stopped firing after three but like a single trigger press that fired three rounds at the same time is how that gun kind of actually felt to me so for a situation like that it made sense but it's a very very narrow window I would love to try doing some shooting with a full auto FAMAS those had a burst limiter put in them because they have a high rate of fire of like 900 or a thousand rounds a minute but I've never had the chance to actually shoot one in full auto so I can't necessarily speak to whether it's actually helpful in that situation or if it's another example of something where training would be better than the mechanical system we are going to the next page Raja says what would be and they've asked this question before so I'm finally going to answer it what would be the first semi-auto pistol you would prefer over a revolver and would any of the many manually operated pistols be better than revolvers so the idea being okay guy is in like the 1880s start developing manually repeating guns like kind of based on the volcanic but a few decades later and then slowly start developing semi-auto pistols but the first ones are pretty darn sketchy and so the question is at what point do you say yes this semi-auto is actually better and I'm gonna go with for civilian carry because he doesn't specify exactly here this semi-auto has gotten good enough that is actually now preferable to a revolver I have two answers here one of them is going to be the Browning model of 1899 which was the short-lived predecessor mechanically basically identical to the Browning 1900 was a fantastically popular pistol they made hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of them thirty-two ACP one of John Browning's I think actually John Browning's first semi-auto pistol design was magnificent especially MA it was magnificent for its time it still stands up today I would absolutely trust one of those over revolver it's going to reload faster than a revolver and it's gonna shoot faster you know it's a single action trigger every time I would carry one of those over a revolver of comparable size and caliber as for a larger caliber gun if we want to talk about something more along the lines of a military sidearm I think my answer is going to be the c96 mauser not my favorite today but that's in large part because a lot of the mousers that are around today are like 80 years old and have been were exported to China got worn out in China and then re-import it into the US and I have a hard time really trusting c96 pistols today but one that was fresh out of the factory it's kind of a different matter and if you said like here you can carry this Webley 455 revolver or a Smith & Wesson 45 caliber 38 caliber revolver or you can have this C 96 it's got ten shots seven six three miles or caliber semi-auto and reloads with stripper clips I would take the Mauser I would definitely take the Luger by 1918 99 the Mauser was around in 1896 so depending on whether we're talking a big gun or a small gun it will be either the mauser c96 mauser or the browning 1899 the one other gun that I want to bring up because I think people may mention it is the Schweppes Llosa model of 1898 which is a gun that I think is really cool and really a shame that it didn't see better production however those guns weren't really actually available on the market until more like 1901 so I still really like that gun but doesn't really fall into this in fact as a military-style sidearm it still wouldn't beat out the Mauser anyway next up is from alt Grendel when are you going to do another joint series with earth is and may of seen arsenal I don't know I would love to do one we've tossed around some ideas for subject matter for another series like Project lightning but it was a tremendous outlay of time and energy and resources especially for CN Arsenal and project lightning while we are very very happy with the the product it didn't have the desired effect of boosting a lot of subscriber interest in CN Arsenal and so it's not really at this point it we they can't really justify doing that again until we have a better opportunity I don't know exactly what we would do for a subject we've taught like I said we tossed around a bunch of ideas I'm up for it I think o'the iesson may also enjoyed it and would be up for it again once it makes sort of a financial and temporal sense for them Daniel says why have you started linking to Rock Island YouTube and Instagram accounts and you'll actually start seeing that again because right after this QA I've got a series of videos from Rock Island where I will be linking to their YouTube channel and Instagram feed and the reason is YouTube does not allow me to provide a link to a site that sells guns so I cannot provide a link to say the lot where a particular Rock Island item is being sold or a Murphy's item I can't create I can't give you guys a link to the auction houses general webpage at all you know not just a catalog item I can't give you a link to anywhere on their web site Rock Island would like to develop more of their own social media presence so they have some people who actually put time into their Instagram page and their YouTube channel and I think they do a pretty good job at it and I can link to those and so where I used to be able to give you a link to the catalog page YouTube has quashed that so talking to them we figure that's the next best thing I can tell you in the description what the lot number is but you have to go find it yourself if you're interested but I can give you a link directly to some of their other in-house social media stuff Randy this is a very intriguing question that I thought about for a while and I honestly didn't come up with a good answer to randy says if you knowing what you know now about the direction of firearms development were dropped into a nineteen hundred role in development at FN or DWM or a similar company what would you set about building what do you think you could convince militaries to adopt so it is of course nineteen hundred you know what's coming you know how light machine guns are going to work you know how semi-auto pistols are going to work you know how general-purpose machine guns are going to work you've seen World War one and World War two you know what happens but nobody else does and so that the challenge here is not what's technically capable of be manufactured the challenges what firearms can you convince militaries at the time are going to be worthwhile that's a tough one I've seen a lot of designs that were put together that were a bit ahead of their time and failed to make any major impression failed to be commercial successes simply because people didn't recognize that they were going to be useful guns in the future and I don't know like the things that the light machine gun is the thing that really jumps out to me as here's what a country that wanted to do better in World War two just specifically relating to small arms here's what they needed to have faster better cheaper light machine guns submachine guns yeah to some extent but in a context of World War one I think the light machine gun is more useful some once you have light machine guns then submachine guns become the next thing that's really good to develop but I just like you look at guns like the Madsen's people weren't willing to acknowledge that that gun was to be valuable that that style of gun was going to be useful and I don't know how I would be able to convince them otherwise you know without some sort of time-traveling cheap you know bringing back YouTube videos about well for one so I'd be curious to hear what you guys have to think about that let me know down in the comments like in 1900 knowing what we know today about small arms what do you think you could actually convince a military administration to start working on or to accept next up is Matthias who says hooray the NFA is repealed he says up healed but I think he means repealed and you can get all the machine guns you want what is the first you acquire it's tricky one so from a practical perspective my answer has pretty much always been a PKM however something like a year ago i got a chance to do some shooting with a knight's armament L AM G light assault machine gun they had one in five six and one in seven six - you know what I would rather have one of these seven six two caliber knights guns then a PKM it's lighter at and ear it's like I take you give me one practical machine gun that I can just have I would take a Knights a seven six two nights I'd assault machine gun now that's leaving out collectible stuff because boy that's a whole huge ball of wax like what do you choose do you choose I could say a select-fire modern FAMAS Cerebus say like the modernized ones that will never be available in this country at all do I say like a 1905 puto heavy machine-gun that is a fantastic clockwork steampunk thing even better than the 1907 s but I don't know that there's even a single one of them in the u.s. like someone offers me either a modernized FAMAS or a 1905 puto like I don't know how do you even make that decision so I will stick instead to practical and I will say unlights live assault in 760 Evan says why don't REM fire guns have dual firing pins anymore the Henry did and the vet early did and despite the improvements to ammo 22 remained pretty unreliable well I could see it not being worthwhile on cheap 22 blinkers I couldn't I could see it being worthwhile on high-end hunting or target rifles like on shoots or other Olympic grade rifles I think really you kind of answered your own question the answer is the quality of ammunition improved the general manufacturing quality of rimfire ammunition got a lot better at the same time militaries stopped using rimfire centerfire ammunition became clearly preferable and it became the de facto standard for military designs there hasn't been a military firearm using rimfire MO since like the 1880s 70s so the ammunition quality improved to the point that it was perfectly adequate for civilian use military use which might want it more reliable no longer existed and even today while the the super cheap bargain in literally you know bucket of 22 plinking ammo stuff can be unreliable the high-end stuff that actual competitive target shooters use is made to a higher standard more expensive as a result and doesn't tend to have those problems so we just don't need dual firing pins a single firing pin is easier to make often stronger and so that's that's what people have gone with privet kills says why is the 30 car being round not have an ar-15 chambering that's an interesting question that I had not thought about before we have 760 by 39 nine-millimeter 45 but no 30 carbine that I have been able to find asking this from the perspective of an armed security officer in Texas I can carry a pistol even an AR pistol five five six is a little much for the places I work 30 carbine would be much more ideal the only pistol I could find like that like I was looking for was the inland em dirty pistol 30 card yeah you don't want one of those I would I would not recommend one of those I don't know that 30 carbine is really ideal for a pistol that whole sort of eight to ten inch barrel pistol but not actually a short-barreled rifle it's kind of a weird niche I'm gonna go ahead and answer this as best I can in the context of a pulse like a pistol caliber carbine style of firearm why don't we have one in 30 carbine it does seem to make sense like that would be a nice intermediate level cartridge to put in an ar-15 however I think really the reason is lack of demand because most of the people who are interested in a carbine like that are going to see five five six is superior to 30 carbine 30 carbine is a little bit powerful for a simple blowback system so you're gonna have to have a delayed well a delayed blowback or a locked breech mechanism like you do with five five six the magazines are not going to be as reliable as AR magazines this was one of the the handicaps of the 30 carbine and going all the way back to its initial development so someone would have to design and produce and market a new 30 carbine magazine and that's that may sound like a simple thing to do but that is actually a very expensive and very difficult task without a lot of pay off because aren't you know a new magazine like that isn't gonna fit in a 30 in an m1 carbine it's only going to fit in your new guns there aren't gonna be very many of those there's not going to be much profit potential in it and it's a tricky tricky undertaking to do to design a new magazine like that and to be blunt about it I think most of the people who think 30 carbine is really cool aren't looking for this sort of thing they're the sort of people are gonna just get an m1 carbine and be done with it if someone's looking for an ar-15 they're probably going to prefer five five six or perhaps something like 300 blackout over 30 carbine by the way the only there have been a few modernized versions of 30 carbines stuff the one of them that comes to mind is the Israeli one they built a little like a micro dolly old style gun and I cannot remember offhand what the name of it was but it was in 30 carbine using m1 carbine magazines and it does look really cool and I'd love to get my hands on one but it does not appear to have been very successful because they definitely didn't take off next up is Brian says what is your opinion of the gas delayed blowback system of the horn Sturm Gewehr 45 a very interesting gun without having had the chance to really see trials reports much less handle one myself much much less actually shoot one myself it's hard to say a lot the system basically was a little gas piston that had a port from just in front of the chamber a gas port so that as soon as you fired gas would come in hit this piston and push it forward or push it upward and it would lock the bolt in place once gas pressure dropped then the bolt would force this piston back down and the bolt could then go forward in cycle and it seems like an idea with a bunch of potential the Russians you know the Germans were experimenting with this at the end of the war and they ran out of time the Russians captured a number of these guns and apparently did some of their own trials with them they found a lot of ergonomic problems with the gun but as far as I can tell the actual mechanical system seems to been pretty solid it might work today the question of course would then be what benefit does it have over the other systems that are available and for a cartridge like eight millimeter Kurt's that it was designed for you're looking at you know for a delayed blowback sort of thing kind of like that you've got roller lock you've got levered delay wood the horn system actually have been better to those I don't know be interesting to find out but we're not really in a position where anyone has a serious motive aside from a hobbyist to do any tinkering with that system Stuka this is this is one that applies right to my new book by the way which if you're interested in we are mere weeks away from having them in hand and shipping so if you want to get a copy as quickly as possible the best way to do it is actually to preorder it through our webstore that is French rifle book.com or headstamp publishing calm and follow the links the reason is the pre-orders that we get will be shipped directly by our publisher the orders that we get after the books arrive in hand the books shipped from the publisher to us and then we process orders than we should books out so if you want it as quickly as possible check out the website I'll have a link in the description below anyway Stukas actual question is why did france keep changing the front sight protectors on their mas series of rifles the early mas 36 had two big fins then the postwar version had a rounded hood the mas 44 sent me auto had a hood but then the mas 49 went back to the two fins there's actually a very good explanation so the original development of the mas 36 used this nice milled nose cap that had two big protective wings on either side of the front sight it was great however in the aftermath of World War two the French looked at a lot of the German developments of stamped components for better economy and went that looks good we should do some of that and they changed a bunch of components on the MAS 36 from milled to stamped barrel bands the sling rings the nose cap the magazine floorplate bunch of the stuff the follower and so they replaced this nice milled winged front sight protector with a stamped unit that had a full fully rounded front sight hood that's great and they used it on both the post-war mas 36 and the mas 44 semi-autos notably the mas 44 semi-auto did not have any grenade launching capability with the mas 49 they decided to they wanted to reintroduce rifle grenade capability to the rifles and they wanted to mount a grenade site and range adjustment mechanism onto the nose cap of the gun that stamped nose cap was not nearly strong enough to accommodate all of this extra hardware so what they did is they basically went to the old they had to go to a milled front sight anyway or a mil front front nose cap front sight protector so they went back to the early version off the Maus 36 updated it made it a little bit bigger and a grenade launching hardware to it and they use that on the MAS 49 and they also actually used it on the MAS 36 excuse me LG 48 they had a rifle Grenadier version of the MAS 36 introduced in the late 40s that also went to back to this milled front sight assembly but it all comes from the need to attach rifle grenade hardware to them and we're changing papers again all right next question is from Jacob who says I'm interested in the history behind Mauser open door factory at the end of World War two specifically the history behind the mousers made for the French where the Germans still running the factory or did the Frenchman run the machines was there even much of the factory left at that time so yes actually the factory was largely intact when the French took it over the French continued to build guns there for a year to 18 months all manner of guns they made Lugar's they made p38 they made HSCs they made Mauser 98 all sorts of different things and the people running the machines were the original German employees these were civilians they lived in opened or found a car and they they needed a job like you know German government contracts for arms kind of ended in about April of 1945 there and so when the French came in and offered to continue employing people that was that was a clear decision for a lot of those people to make do you see the same thing at the French Arsenal's occupied by the some of those French Arsenal's were making German war material during the war there was some sabotage but a lot of the French employees looked at their situation and said like what I have a family to feed I will continue to work for the factory even if I'm making guns for people I might not like after the war of course the war was over I'm not aware of any sabotage on the part of Mouser employees working under French occupation I suppose something might have happened but I'm not familiar with it and as for there being much of the factory left yeah most of the factory was actually still there not all of it but you know there'd been bombing raids through the war but they kept most of it going in fact the biggest damage was when the French finally left they blew up a couple of the main buildings now interestingly you'll usually hear this described as like the French demolished Mauser when they left reality as Mauser was a pretty darn huge complex I actually had the chance to visit over and Dorff just fairly recently and the French blew up a couple of the big buildings but they also left a lot of it intact and a lot of those buildings are actually still there a few of them are still there and still being used by companies with the Mauser trademark so kind of cool Nicholas says Ian and now that you have written a book and co-founded a publishing company what is your next big goal for you and forgotten weapons aside from book number two well um I don't know that I have a particular huge goal next I really did enjoy the process of writing my book and I am very excited about doing another one I haven't quite started it yet but I'm kind of chomping at the bit to get going on it I think it will be about Japanese rifles so it'll take a little while to research and to write aside from that I have a few projects that I would like to chase but not things that I'm willing to talk about because they just may as well they may very well not even happen at this point one that I would really like to be able to put more time into and and get up and running is my archive project as I've been calling it where I want to go back and kind of rebuild forgotten weapons calm as a repository of archival firearms documentation and photography and that's a project that requires bringing on an assistant I have a couple people maybe in line to do that at this point but we have to set up some software you know we need to get it get a good database structure in place first and that's something I haven't had the time to really attend to yet so I'm hoping in the next couple months I can really get some time in on that and get that moving and frankly continuing the website as it is continuing the video channel I kind of have a goal of doing all the guns which is a pretty ambitious goal and it will take a lot of time to do and but it still seems like a pretty fun goal to work on let's see next up is from our Toro our Toro says is there such a thing as a curio and relic colt 1911 clone ie not made by Colt that's compatible with modern 1911 parts or do I have to buy a genuine Colt 1911 pistol they're actually a bunch of them because during World War two a whole bunch of companies made 1911's on contract for the US government so if you're willing to pay for a World War 2 1911 which has some premium to the value because it's a military issue of World War 2 gun you will find the made by Remington Rand you'll find the made by Ithaca you'll find the made by Union switch and signal you'll also find a little bit of similar stuff during World War one there are a couple of very rare producers like North American Arms that if you find one don't swap parts in it doesn't matter what it's compatible with don't mess what but North American Arms 1911 but if you want a gun just to use frankly I'm I guess part of me wants to ask like what is the concern was the why be concerned with compatibility with modern parts on a curio and a relic 1911 if you're looking for a gun to customize and build up I would say buy a commercial one don't take a curio and relic gun and spoil it if you're looking for a shooter okay I can see that like I want to be able to replace extractors or something and a world war two gun would be perfect for that one other option you have is Argentina Argentina manufactured basically exact copies of the 1911 a1 as the sistema Colt Modelo 1927 those are available and out there there are a couple other countries that did similar things the Norwegians built a model of the 1911 model of 1914 but it's not exactly part 4 part interchangeable so the Argentine one is the Sistema 1927 is next up Martin wants to know which is my favorite Brownells retro rifle and why tell you what I'll be right back this this right there is my favorite Brownells retro rifle it is there AR 10 B and they don't make it really easy to figure out the difference on their websites they have an a model and B model they differ in the color of the furniture the style of the muzzle device this one has an enclosed muzzle device and the profile of the barrel so this one has a lightweight barrel and is black furniture the ar-10 a or b RM 10a has the brown furniture has an open prong muzzle device and it has a heavy fluted barrel in it and the reason I prefer this model over the other one is that this weighs like 3/4 of a pound or less so this comes in at under 8 pounds for a 308 it is a very nice shooting rifle I really enjoy shooting it it's a well-made rifle it's a reliable rifle part of the reason I would say that it is my favorite Brownells the retro gun is that it is the thing that is hardest to get like if I want a retro ar-15 there are a lot of other options out there and there are a lot of guns that are kind of like that there's lots of two two threes out there that are you know more or less equivalent to early ar-15s if you want a retro original style ar-10 your options are going to be these which are pretty darn awesome the early Armalite ar-10 bees which are not particularly awesome or a an actual original ar-10 artillery and I reckon again they are ten parts kit built on one of a couple different brands of semi-auto receiver those are by far the coolest to have but they're also by far the most expensive that's gonna be like a five or six thousand dollar done this is like 1,200 bucks 1,100 bucks I think so to me this is the most this is the best version of the most desirable model of retro rifle that Brownells makes alright moving on Hunter says having shot both the zb-26 and the Bren which do you prefer and why that is a little bit of a tough question I have a lot of tough questions in here this month so I would say the zb-26 is the nicer gun to carry and the Bren gun is the nicer gun to shoot the Bren is noticeably heavier and Ulker than the zb-26 one of the really cool things to me about the zb-26 is just house felt it really is for a light machine gun but when it comes to actual shooting the brand is a little more well behaved largely because it's just got more mass and it's just a slightly less powerful cartridge a heavier gun in 303 is going to shoot more nicely all other things being equal than a lighter gun in eight millimeter Mauser so boy if someone gave me the option like here you can just have either this Bren or this zb-26 that would be a really tough call I would probably take the zb-26 because they're a little scarce er and I'm probably going to look at it more than I'm actually going to shoot it so I probably probably go with the zb-26 Stephen says what advice would you give to someone trying to get into firearms design I'm gonna be honest I would say make sure that it is your hobby and not your job do not put yourself in a position to be financially dependent on a professional involvement in firearms design because we've got we're in this period of a kind of technological stagnation in firearms not well Plateau maybe not stagnation but until someone comes up with some truly fundamentally revolutionary new idea our guns are basically all the same and they basically have been for 50 or 60 or 70 years now so if you want to get into firearms design it's very difficult to come up with some novel interpretation of these same existing ideas that's actually going to sell really well like if you don't have the opportunity that John Browning had where you know John Browning invented whole new categories of firearm you know semi-auto shotguns but the slide John Browning invented the pistol slider you can't do that anymore because all of that stuff has been invented so firearms design today is about taking the existing building blocks and putting them together in the most efficient pattern possible for a given purpose and that's a lot of optimization and not a lot of innovation and more power to the people that choose to do it but that is a I think a financially dangerous path to take because most people are going to fail at that because it's just there's not a lot of opportunity in it Toby we're on our last page now looks like we got seven more Toby says what would have happened if the French had not rushed development of their smokeless powder rifle and cartridge from your videos you've made it clear that much of the French small-arms development was really fighting with the eight millimeter lapel cartridge and it's double taper and rim would French small arms development and technology have advanced much faster if it did not need to work around that those the quirks of that cartridge yeah it absolutely would have had they not rushed it interestingly I think they also would have developed a rifle basically the bare tee I would have never existed so if the French hadn't crushed the Lebel with its smokeless cartridge rushed it because of its smokeless powder they would have ended up with either a Mauser style magazine a moniker strip and block clip or a lead detachable magazine one of those three things because they were looking at those different options because they rushed it they got a tube magazine from carpet check that was almost immediately obsolete and it really wasn't convertible or adaptable into a cavalry carbine so the whole reason that Bayer ta exists is because they needed a cavalry carbine and they didn't want to have guys on horseback trying to load rounds one at a time into a tube magazine had they gone with a more modern rifle design from the beginning to instead of the Lebel they could have just shortened it like everybody else did with mousers and Lee's and monikers into a cavalry carbine kept the same gun for both both services they would not have had to adapt a new rifle for the infantry in World War one they wouldn't have gone into World War one with either a tube mag or a three round rifle they would have had five or ten rounds from the start now and frankly at the same time if you assai aside from rushing the rifle if they hadn't rushed the cartridge quite so much if they had adopted a modern straight wall rimless your shoulder rimless cartridge which by the way they were fully aware of there was a lot of French development and experimentation prior to World War one with exactly that style of cartridge if they had adopted it as the first smokeless powder cartridge yeah a lot of things would have been better the show Shaw would have been a lot more reliable they might have been able to successfully adapt a self-loading rifle in World War one in larger scale production than the RSC and one that would have actually survived past World War one they would have had a semi-auto rifle available by the early 20s at the latest instead of having to wait until 1945 to have one available so I think had they not rushed it the French army would have had a self-loading rifle in world war ii interesting question to think about would that have pushed Germany to speed development of a semi-auto rifle themselves during the 20s and 30s did they have the financial resources to do it that that all becomes you know impossible to determine speculation but they're interesting questions to think about yeah we can put a lot of blame on general blonds therefore for forcing them to to go with this rush development and an inferior product Old Man Winter says are there any forgotten calibers like 32-french lung that would make viable alternatives to today's calibers for instance with 32-french lung make a good mouse gun caliber so we'll divide this into two parts first off are there any calibers out there that are forgotten that would be beneficial today I think the answer really is no there are so many different calibers available on the market today that you can really pick whatever exactly fits your specific need or desire and I don't think there's anything obsolete right now that can offer something that isn't already available from something else in the market as for 32-french being good mouseka and calibre I'm not sure I would call it Mouse gun to me Mouse gun is like 22 and 25 ACP the 32-french long is an 88 grain bullet at about 1,100 feet per second so it is substantially more potent than 32 Auto it's gonna fall somewhere above 380 round 9-millimeter Makarov but less powerful than 765 Parabellum and definitely less powerful in seven six three Mauser so it's at the bottom end of service pistol but it's well above Mouse gun Louis says what that one what movie firearms make you want to throw popcorn at the screen hearing cue tell double-oh-seven about the Walther PPK 32s stopping power as being quote like a brick through a plate-glass window although I think that's based on a Beretta 25 which is actually worse it just ruins the scene for me he has some other examples the one for me is the standard arms or standard products DP 12 that gun shouldn't exist it's dumb but it is it's a double barrel double pump action huge shot gun thing and movie directors just seem to love that thing and it bugs me every time I see one because to me it is it is like you took two guns and you basically duct tape them together and put them in a big plastic shell and came up with something that is ludicrously heavy you know like I watched the new Terminator movie just recently dark fate and there is one scene in there where they give Danny a DP 12 as part of like a you're going to learn how to shoot montage and you can just see that this gun is so awkward and uncomfortable for the actress like you can see right through the character that the actress has a hard time dealing with this gun because it is such a heavy awkward lump of a gun they want to say they showed up in John wick - and like the I not number - one of the John wick movies and seeing that DP 12 to me really ruins the spirit of any movie that's purporting to have knowledgeable skilled gun handling people like unhand lling professionals none of those people ever choose a DP 12 ever so I'll get off my soapbox but that's the one that makes me want to throw popcorn at the screen Tanner asks what is your opinion on the l85 a three upgrades that the briefs British recently contracted with from H&K with the a3 the a3 was basically a new upper receiver for the gun and with that H&K has pretty much replaced every component of the l85 and what they have come up with is a gun that is quite sufficiently reliable it is quite sufficiently high quality it is just fine it still has a couple little fundamental flaws it's still an only right-handed gun you cannot shoot that thing left-handed you will smash your face in with the charging handle which is reciprocating it is too heavy especially you know you take that gun and you put its standard optic on it now this may have improved a little bit over time because I assume not everyone is still using the SU sat on the l85 the Suzette was a brick of an op deck external mounting adjustments not a particularly good optic and you put a Suzette sorry about that Dharma just lost her mind I think apparently the postman is going to murder us all anyway you put a su set on an L 85 and it's basically the same weight as a foul you know part of the part of the point of moving to a lighter caliber rifle was to actually reduce weight of the rifle and when they factored in the optic they really didn't do that and that is something that hk's revisions to the system have not changed in any effective way so what they have now is reliable durable accurate it's perfectly acceptable there's nothing really wrong with the l85a2 a3 at this point it's heavier than it ought to be and it has a few other little quirky sort of restrictions but they finally have a good suitable infantry rifle should they have just used the m16 in the first place yes yes they should have RG b says if a very wealthy patron supplied you with a grant to buy or have built one firearm regardless of cost what would you acquire assume their wealth would open the doors of museum collections or National Archives and ignore the NFA if applicable assuming an appropriate supply of ammunition would you shoot it it'd be really cool to have it'd be really cool to have a left-handed paratrooper or commando with a little short barreled version of the British PM to don't know that it's a hugely practical gun because it does kind of have some of the same problems that I just talked about with the l85 like it's not a left-handed gun you just can't shoot it left-handed that gun is set up for a really wonky sort of optic it's a little non magnifying optical sight or one and a half powers it's a tiny little it's literally the optic is the size of a pencil man and those things are just so cool and it's mechanically a disaster inside it's tremendously expensive to produce but I would love to have one be really cool and there's no way I'm ever gonna get one short of this sort of hypothetical imaginary situation because I think they made one or two of the paratrooper commando carbines they made one left-handed em2 but it's the full-length version like the gun that I want was never made in the first place all right two more questions first up is Lars why is delayed blowback not more common for pistol caliber carbines delayed blowback allows you to use a lair bolt as well as high-pressure ammunition higher pressure a munition so why isn't it more common really the answer is money you can with a pistol caliber carbine kind of by definition you can use a simple blowback system that's just based on the inertia of the bolt mass and that's easy to machine and it's pretty cheap and it supplies pretty much everything of what people are looking for if you want to have a locked or delayed blowback system you are introducing a lot more complexity to the bolt for reasons that a lot of people aren't gonna be willing to pay much more money for weight isn't necessarily that big of a concern because you're not talking about all that much bolt weight that you're getting rid of and in a modern design where you know the main body of the gun is probably going to be made out of polymer and be very lightweight on its own with just sort of some sort of metal skeleton inside you can have like a four or five pound PCC without any real problem this was I think a bit more of an issue with early submachine guns where there was a lot of weight in a milled receiver and a heavy wooden stock and if you could take six ounces out of the bolt great that was actually a real benefit but with today's polymer materials technology you don't gain all that much really there aren't really people out there looking to use higher pressure ammunition people like to be able to use off-the-shelf store-bought ammo there are some some companies that experimented with higher pressure higher power submachine gun cartridges sig did it with the MK was the MK M oh I believe an M KP Oh in 9 by 25 Mauser using a delayed blowback submachine gun and it just didn't catch on it wasn't very popular and there were one or two other submachine guns made in that same cartridge the Hungarian military adopted them but that's pretty much it so there's not a cost incentive to do it and our last question for today is from Kyle who says assuming that 3d printing and scanning continues to advances it has over the past few years what effect you expect it to have on the antique firearms market and hobby more parts leading to more shooting of classic rifles easier restoration disruption in the valuable value of classic firearms because of counterfeiting and Frankenstein guns being passed off as originals actually I'm optimistic about this I do not think that development of 3d printing technology will cause a significant problem in faking of historically significant firearms or collectible guns and the reason is the when you get to a high end of this when it really starts to matter like when the value really gets high it's because you're talking about guns that are in really good condition condition drives a lot of pricing in the collectible firearms market and so collectors at that level who are who are trying to determine even today is this faked or is this real has this been Arsenal refinished or is it original they're looking at things like machining tool marks specific colors of bluing from you know shades and tints of bluing from different bluing processes and they know these these factors are pretty remarkably well someone with a 3d printer is actually going to have a harder time trying to pass off a fake like that and someone who's using the original machining process can I want to make a fake part that was originally milled it's actually gonna be easier for me to do it on a mill than it is on a 3d printer now what the 3d printer allows us to do is make functional replicas much more easily and I think that is really a fantastic thing it means we can you can develop parts to allow people to shoot historically significant guns that they might otherwise be afraid of breaking parts on extractors ejectors in some cases you know if you have an interesting gun you've been shooting it and the bolt breaks well you can keep the broken bolt you can 3d print and heat treat a proper new bolt and be able to continue shooting it much more easily than you know having done smith machine a complex part like a bolt so I'm I'm optimistic on the opportunities that 3d printing has I there are actually already I believe there's a vendor in Canada who is selling Ross rifle hardware like nose caps and Barrel bands I'm pretty sure those are actually 3d printed and to me that's a perfect application of the technology and I think it bodes very well for its use in our hobby that is all of our questions for today thank you again to all the patrons who supplied questions and made this possible as usual I had about ten times literally 10 times as many questions as I have time to go through so I tried to catch up on a couple of repeats here if you asked a question and it was a good question and I didn't answer it asked it again next month and I'll do my best to get it in again or explain to you on patreon why I'm not answering it I should do more of that anyway thanks for watching check us out again tomorrow for another cool forgotten weapon
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