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Audience friends , let’s take a look at the more tragic or tragic world happening in Israel and Palestine. Here we see that Israel has now announced a five-hour ceasefire in southern Gaza starting from 2 o’clock this afternoon. This is based on humanity. Demand Because many people saw the scenes from the Gaza Corridor and felt that this could not continue, so Israel announced a ceasefire for 5 hours under pressure from all parties , but it was only 5 hours. The Israeli army was supported by US aircraft carriers. Conducting exercises along the Gaza border means dismantling Hamas's operations. Violent air strikes destroy Gaza. But don't forget that Gaza is densely populated with many civilians who have no time to evacuate or are unwilling to evacuate . But Hamas Israel continues to fire rockets at Israel relentlessly , and we see the current situation in Gaza. The hospital's fuel reserve is about to be exhausted. Mainly because Israel has besieged it and prevents any supplies from entering , and the hospital is flooded with a large number of injured, elderly, weak, women, and children . Sitting on the ground wailing , including fuel and medical supplies. The WHO and the International Health Organization estimate that there are thousands of people. Please note that thousands of people may have died because of the lack of medicine. They could have survived . So far, these air strikes have killed at least 2,329 people. The number of lives lost in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in Gaza in the past eight days has surpassed that of 2014. It is difficult to estimate if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict continues. We saw Netanyahu convene his first war cabinet meeting. He said we are ready to fight in Gaza. We can also see the elimination of Hamas, including here in Gaza. Their Ministry of Health spokesperson said that Israel’s recent actions are ethnic cleansing of us Palestinians because he believes that it has reached a very cruel point. Audience friends, let’s take a look at the civilians now . There is no way to safely evacuate , but this includes Netanyahu ’s cabinet meeting when the war begins. In fact, Netanyahu’s polls in Israel at this moment are very low. We see that 66% of the respondents are Israelis. They think Netanyahu is He should not continue to be prime minister. On the day after the war, only 21% of the people supported him to stay in office. Why is it after the war? Because we are at war now, we can't replace him now. And besides, let's look at these Gaza civilians. They say we are being Double hostage because I am not safe anywhere in Israel. I have to face its bombings , but Hamas tells us not to leave. We are also hostages of Hamas, so what should we do? We are humans, we are not animals, why do we have to live here ? In Les Misérables, let’s take a look at CCTV on the other side. It has an English channel. It has many foreign reporters. Now it has sent its reporters to the Gaza corridor to see what this reporter sent back. The news he said was very tragic. He said this is In the area where the Israeli military asked the Gazans to evacuate, there were at least 10 children under the age of 5. Their heads were covered in a very miserable way. This was a picture seen by a reporter from the English channel of CCTV , and we saw this picture as well. There is a mother holding her baby and crying. Director, do you have this scene? Let’s take a look at it . Good viewers, friends, scenes like this are actually unbearable to read. Many times, we don’t want to show it due to the scale of the TV . We have already After screening, you are still heartbroken when you see it. You will know that the real world is more terrifying than the picture you are seeing now. Audience friends, we have seen Israel. He now says that he plans to close the Al Jazeera bureau. Why does he say that you are helping? Hamas speaks, you are the mouthpiece of Hamas , so we now see that many of the messages conveyed in the Western world are mostly from Israel, because if you talk about Israel and the tragic situation in the Gaza corridor, it seems to be too much. Highlighting their tragic feelings, Israel will also come to protest. In addition, we saw the Pakistani ambassador to the United Kingdom accept an interview with the BBC. He was asked by the host to say that you must condemn Hamas’s attacks . It is true that Hamas attacks civilians. We all agree that things must be condemned , but what did the Pakistani ambassador to the UK say ? He said that I myself had 6 relatives killed in Israeli bombings , but you, the Western media, have not seen what we have done in the past 10 years. Palestinian casualties, you never asked Israel to condemn itself. But when Palestinians were killed, did you invite me to appear on the show? Do you understand this logic? When Israelis were attacked by terror, he asked Palestinians to accuse me . You want to condemn Hamas , a terrorist organization , but when Palestinians are killed, do you ask me to condemn Israel? He thinks it's very unfair. He thinks it's very unfair. Of course, this area of ​​​​this place is very complex. We try to let you see the comparison . We can see the true appearance of TikTok. It also responded to the EU's request and said that it has some measures to filter out conflict and fake news. In addition, let's take a look at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Now under the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the Israeli army is ready to deal with multiple issues. On the front line, because we can see that Israel is a fighting nation , it is now at war with three parties. In the north, Hezbollah is bombarding him , so he also attacks them or each other. In addition, we see Hezbollah heading towards the Israeli border outpost on the 15th. The launch of anti-tank missiles caused 1 death and 3 injuries. The Israeli military said that it would launch a counterattack in the face of Lebanon and announced that no area within 4 kilometers of the Lebanese border could be entered. So on the one hand, we saw that Hezbollah in Lebanon also choked. He said that if the time comes, We will join Hamas to fight against Israel. Now it is just shelling. Is it possible that ground troops will appear in the future? Even Iran has warned If Israel goes too far and launches ground operations, I will intervene. We have seen that the West Bank used to be relatively peaceful , but now it is no longer peaceful because 47 Palestinians were shot dead in a week, and it looks like a full-scale war has begun . Brother Liang, please tell me about Natanyahu. In fact, during the judicial reform a while ago, 500,000 people took to the streets to protest in Israel , so his polls at that time were already very poor. 66% believed that he could not be re-elected, right? 21% support that’s why he needs this war. Let me tell you about Ukraine Zelensky. Before February last year, his polls were only 30%. Now it is 92%. Putin was elected president by 76% before the war. Putin's current poll is 83% , so you know the effect of war on polls. I think in order to defend his regime, Netanyahu will definitely send troops on the ground. Yes, he will definitely send troops , and he has no retreat because You are already here, you have mobilized, and now hundreds of thousands of tanks have been deployed , and some even said that the bulldozers are ready because the way it is played is very clear. That is why it is in the north because Gaza City is right there. Here in Gaza City , the population of Gaza City is nearly 700,000. Therefore, the entire population of the Gaza Corridor in the Gaza Region is only 2.35 million people. The population of Gaza City is nearly 700,000. So the main buildings are here . It is to put all Why are the buildings demolished ? Because all its tunnel entrances are inside the buildings, so I think its strategy is to destroy all decent buildings in the north of Gaza and turn them into ruins . What they bombed were mosques because many of Hamas gathered in mosques . But now it is in trouble. If you think about it , the tunnels in the Gaza corridor are 500 kilometers long. The entire length of Gaza is only 41 kilometers. So you can imagine that it must be a very winding tunnel with some people. If you want to hit me, I will hide in the south and wait for you. If you don't pay attention, I will come out from the north again and kill you. Just like the Vietnam War , so I really don't know this. If its plane forces are really dispatched, I don't know how it will clean up the aftermath , because it may fall into an endless war. How do you know that Hamas has been wiped out by you ? So in fact, I am speaking in plain language and I have said it before. I said you should just list the leaders of Hamas and ask for an international joint arrest, and just use this to deal with the aftermath. It doesn't want it, it must fight a plane war , and it has made it clear that it wants to fight Gaza. The north wants to bomb the entire city of Gaza and destroy it, but I tell you because the local people, I tell you, on average, more than half of the people in the Gaza corridor are under the age of 18. There are elderly people who can't leave, pregnant women who can't leave. Sick people can't leave. Young children can't leave. Those who have left now are all able-bodied people. Some say 500,000 people have left. Others say 600,000 people have left. To put it simply, there are at least 400,000 to 500,000 people left at the scene. So I tell you that when any ground attack starts to bomb those houses , there will be countless casualties. So I say that in the future, some tragedies may happen this week. In fact, we have seen many tragedies now. Everyone knows that the United States has been supporting Israel. I saw this news. Israel requested the United States to support Hellfire missiles. This was reported by NBC. He said that two officials familiar with the discussion said that Israel requested the United States to support Hellfire missiles , but this request was not made by the White House . It has not been approved yet, but the White House has not rejected it. They are still considering it . Come and ask the teacher. You know the best solution to the entire Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been proposed. At the United Nations General Assembly , the Syrian representative to the United Nations General Assembly is called Jaafari. He said it is very simple. Wouldn’t the problem be solved if the United States vacated a state and moved the entire 9.6 million people of Israel there ? It may seem a bit of a joke, but this is the biggest root cause of the current Israeli-Palestinian conflict. From 1917 to 1948, that is, the Jews all over the world were Let's put it back to when Palestine became the situation it is today. From the very beginning, there was a two-state solution. From the beginning to the end, the United States, with the exception of Clinton and Carter, was shielding and turning a blind eye. It's not just the BBC and the White House. If you want The solution is to just vacate one of your states. 9.6 million people are not very many. You all know that Netanyahu jumped from a young man to the Israeli political stage in 1995. What did he call for at that time ? Because in 1993, Rabin signed an Oslo As a result of the agreement, he led all the hardliners to oppose the agreement, saying that our Jerusalem would be divided into two. Of course, it was false. A year later, Rabin was assassinated , and a few years later , Netanyahu became prime minister . He did it up and down. For more than 10 years, everyone thinks that the reason for this happening may be because Israel and Saudi Arabia want to establish diplomatic relations with each other , so they forget that there is another problem in Lebanon. The Israeli strong parties are now seriously worried about Israel’s population of 9.6 million. The 9.6 million people I just talked about will exceed 50% in 15 years, including Palestinians and moderates. You know that 20% of the 9.6 million people are Palestinians, Israeli citizens , and even serve in the army , and 16% are called Halleys. These people in Dee's ultra-orthodox sect actually wear hats and black clothes and have a little black box here. They are not soldiers at all. These people tend to be moderates, but some people support Natanyahu, so if time changes, there is no way past Without such an incident, Israel's two-state solution is likely to come to fruition soon. Hard-liners like Netanyahu cannot accept it , so politicians or these politicians sometimes can really get killed if they think about it carefully. Let me make a small comment here . When Tanyahu rose to power, he happened to be Rabin's bitter enemy. During the demonstrations on the streets, he directly called for Rabin to die. In Natanyahu's speech, the security department warned him that you can't speak like this. If you speak like this, something will happen . He insisted on speaking like this. A very radical populist person was assassinated in 1995. It was Brother Lai Bing. I think the current situation may be difficult to deal with. Why ? In fact, Brother Liang has just explained it very clearly. Before this conflict occurred, Natanyahu was originally his government. Now he is in danger. Now give him an opportunity , but this opportunity means that he cannot stop because it is very simple. The last Yom Kippur War was also a surprise attack. After the surprise attack, the government stepped down as soon as the war was over. So if you look at what he did in the polls this time, you will like it. I don't agree with the war. I told him to get out after the second day. That's right. It's because the war is critical now, so you handle the temporary war. When you finish handling it, I will tell you to get out because you are responsible for your intelligence failure that killed so many Israelis, so he is absolutely right now. He can't stop. Logically speaking, his revenge is actually enough. Why? Because he went to blow up all the buildings in the northern part of the Gaza Corridor in Palestine. It is said that more than 3,000 people have died. Let me tell you, there are definitely more people than this number. It's buried underneath and can't be dug out . Then there's no water, no electricity, no medical supplies in the next few days . I don't know how many people are going to die. And now he's planning to send ground troops directly in for what. In fact, I think he's preparing for a long-term war. That's why he wants to ask the United States for Hellfire missiles. Hellfire missiles are for helicopters, so they can hit these tanks and these buildings on the ground. I think he just wants to find a good excuse. Go in and sweep Hamas. Hamas has 2,500 tunnels inside. I will slowly fight with you over there . Then you, the United States, are taking advantage of you anyway. You must provide me with supplies. I will slowly spend a long time over there in Israel. If the number of casualties on the border increases and Israel's national indignation rises, it will continue to make this war protracted. Then the Netanyahu government will turn the corner and continue. In fact, isn't Zelensky's current government also relying on this to support it? If there is no war, many people will start to hold Zelensky accountable. So I am afraid that with the mentality of a government like Natanyahu, this war will not end so quickly. Although many people have come out to mediate in the hope that it will end . If you take into account the thoughts of Netanyahu and the Israelis, I think this war may still be delayed , so a blood feud like this has spread all over the world, not just the United States. We can see it, including the United States . Of course, it is the first The first shot we saw was of a landlord in the United States. He was a 71-year-old uncle. He was watching TV and felt very angry. It happened that his tenant was from Palestine. As a result, he suddenly went crazy. An old gentleman used a big knife to attack the Palestinian tenant mother and son , and shouted that Muslims must die. As a result, the 6-year-old child was really unjust and lost his life in vain. The mother was seriously injured , so the Israeli-Palestinian conflict affects not only These two countries, Israel and Palestine, or the Middle East , you see the whole world now hating each other. Audience friend Biden said he also spoke, he said it was wrong for Israel to occupy Gaza, he said it was wrong, you can't do this, Blinken, he is Jewish. But he also said that you, Israel, cannot expel the Palestinians from the Gaza Strip and you must keep them in their homeland. So has the attitude of the United States changed now ? And in addition, we can see that Von der Leyen is the chairperson of the European Union’s executive committee. She is now on the side of Israel and her attitude is too obvious. She flew to Israel on Friday, so she was also criticized by members of the European Parliament, saying that you cannot conduct diplomacy on your own and you are completely supportive of Israel . In addition, you You should at least speak out about the Palestinians who are being treated inhumanely and unreasonably. In addition, let’s take a look at campuses in the United States, including those that have caused a lot of controversy. Who do you support? Now you are asked. We see things like Harvard . Stanford , universities like New York University, are full of elite- related students, professors, and management. Serious debates have broken out on various social media, including let’s take a look at this example. This is the president of the New York University Student Lawyers Association. He published a statement saying that Israel should bear full responsibility for this huge sacrifice of life. Then he was talking about the results of a bombing in the Gaza corridor. Unexpectedly, there was a big company, a big law firm called Winston Strahan, and he said: I won’t give you this internship opportunity. So you see that this thing involves innumerable connections. And in addition, we see the United States relying on China to negotiate with the Middle East. We now see Blinken running to Saudi Arabia . Uzbekistan met with its Crown Prince and Prime Minister in Riyadh, hoping that Saudi Arabia would also come to help. However, the meeting ended in less than an hour. We can see that the United States, including the United States, urged Saudi Arabia to condemn Hamas attacks. But Saudi Arabia said that I can't do this. Now the situation between Israel and Palestine is getting more and more complicated, so Saudi Arabia has suspended negotiations with the United States to promote the normalization of relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia . In other words, Saudi Arabia is now withdrawing. He looks like This situation is bad In addition, the Rafah checkpoint is closed. Where is Rafah ? This is a checkpoint between the Gaza Corridor and Egypt . Now, including all walks of life, let’s talk about Egypt. You should allow foreigners to pass through this checkpoint. Foreigners are innocent and let them leave . But The Egyptian official refused and said that you can't just let foreigners leave and you can't just let foreigners pass through. You have to get aid supplies into Gaza because Gaza is so miserable. So now it may be possible to get some supplies in through this pipeline . Blinken After meeting with Egyptian President Sis, it was confirmed that the United States will now cooperate with Egypt, Israel and the United Nations to establish a mechanism to prepare aid supplies to be transported to Gaza through this mechanism. Therefore, the Rafah Pass will be reopened, otherwise those people will wait to die. Many of them are children and pregnant women . Dear friends, old people, let’s take another look at Blinken and Austin. Now that he has gone to the Middle East, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is very difficult and difficult to solve. The United States has called on the mainland to also jump in to help. We saw Wang Yi and Wang Yi said that he had spoken to Blinken. The position of supporting Palestine remains unchanged and emphasizes that using violence to fight violence will only lead to a vicious cycle. The Chinese envoy is about to visit the Middle East to help promote peace talks. They believe that force should not be used and peace talks should be used to end this incident. In addition, China and Russia are involved in the geopolitical affairs of the Middle East, including Wang Yi. Called the Foreign Minister of Iran and Turkey. Turkey supports China’s efforts to seek a solution to the Palestinian issue in the United Nations Security Council. It hopes to work with mainland China to seek peace in this place . Iran also agrees and hopes to strengthen communication with China on this plan. So it can be seen that China is The role of this region will gradually increase. Russia has also joined Russia in asking the Security Council to vote on a resolution calling for a humanitarian ceasefire between Israel and Palestine. We have seen that Western allies, that is, Western countries, have a role. Russia, China, and Iran actually all have a role. Let me ask Liang. Brother , these are all diplomatic efforts or there are all kinds of international support and moral condemnation of the Israeli army , but these are useless. It is useless because its army is in Gaza. It is useless for China to send a special envoy. You send troops to me. Let me tell you about military affairs. We can only use military means to check and balance . So I will tell you that there are only two factors that will make the Israeli army have some checks and balances. The first is that it did not fight well, and it encountered Hamas and found out how authentic they are. They will never be able to eliminate it. The Vietnam War is like this. There are 80,000 Vietnamese people hiding in the tunnels. Cu Chi tunnels. I have been to Cu Chi tunnels. Then they fought in the tunnels for 4 years. 40,000 people were eliminated and they can never be defeated. After that, the U.S. military has been attacked by others. This is because it has to pay a price. It is not fighting smoothly. This is the first and second. It has angered Muslims all over the world. As a result, various riots have broken out in various European and American countries. Riots, I tell you this is very realistic. Do you think that when the United States was fighting the Vietnam War, Nixon would care about your diplomatic appeals? Why would he pay attention to you? What he cares about is whether the US military is fighting smoothly in Vietnam or whether there are students everywhere in the country. They are all rioting. This is the core issue that he must face. So the real question now is who can check and balance the Israeli army and who can speak to Netanyahu? Has Wang Yi seen Netanyahu? No, let me tell you . You can't even see Netanyahu. Yesterday, the United Nations Security Council was having some discussions. Israel's Security Council representatives directly denounced the Security Council and said, "How can you say such vicious words? You only know that. So I said that this diplomacy is useless because you think Is the representative of the Israeli Security Council so fierce? Isn’t it because he is under pressure ? This is the position of Netanyahu and the Israeli army. You should ignore their current situation. This is the case. The same is true for Biden. Did you just say that the United States opposes Israel’s occupation of Gaza? Is that right? That's the New York Times headline. That's not what Biden said. Biden said that the United States opposes Israel's full occupation of Gaza, not the occupation of Gaza, but the full occupation. The words he used were full scale occupation, full scale occupation. Isn't this nonsense? Israel is not possible in the first place. Fully occupying Gaza , so you talk empty talk. You tell me what I will do as long as you occupy Gaza for one day. You didn’t talk about it . I will use it again. Wang Yi and Blinken had a phone call. Mainland China wrote in its press release that The United States is willing to discuss a two-state solution and is willing to coordinate the United Nations to come in. Delete these two press releases from the U.S. State Department. So let me tell you that the current position of the United States is also firmly in favor of Israel . So who do you think can talk to the Israeli military now ? Netanyahu said this. This is the problem . Let’s go into an ad to help us analyze the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Israel’s current military operations will probably have three stages. The first stage is called air strikes. When will the second stage be ground attacks ? Not sure after 6 hours, but he will definitely attack the first one. He wants to save the hostages . It is said that there are 155 hostages. The second one is to clear Hamas , but the hostages are in the tunnel, so the range of this ground attack will still cause damage. The media are all looking at the death toll of civilian Palestinians, especially this death toll. The number this morning is 2,670. Due to Israeli bombardment, more than 1,000 people died in Gaza. The bodies are still not found under the ruins. So what is the death toll? 5,000 and 10,000 people. Can you endure it? How long will the occupation last in the third stage? Because once you enter , it will be very difficult for you to withdraw once you advance. If you don’t withdraw, that’s impossible. It is impossible for the whole world to accept you, right? Then you have to withdraw. Are your goals set? Have they been achieved? Or, you have caused the death of tens of thousands more civilians in Palestine. You are forced to withdraw under pressure. No, Netanyahu will definitely step down. He will definitely step down just because of this intelligence error, right? His power expansion will also be reduced. So now, in the United States, this strategy has already begun to be implemented. It is impossible to touch the interior of the United States at this stage. Look at the Jewish support for the United States. The 71-year-old man killed a 6-year-old boy 31 times. It’s outrageous, right? That’s why the White House in the United States now dares not touch this thing. More than half of its political donations come from here , but he Knowing what to do next, call Wang Yi and whom to call. Next thing he knows, Biden also talked about it today. Biden also said today that he would separate Hamas from at least Hamas and Pakistan , and then Blinken called. Does Abbas still remember Abbas? He is the current chairman of the Palestine Liberation Organization. He went to Beijing to meet Xi Jinping at the beginning of this year. After talking to him, Abbas was probably persuaded by him or under pressure from him. It condemned Hamas but was taken down a few hours later. The United States has a plan , but this bureau is obviously completely biased towards the Israeli Jews at this stage . Then I have to ask you to allow him to attack. Now it is clear that the United States allows him to attack because the United States itself We have invaded Afghanistan and Iraq , right? But how many people will die if we invade under two different circumstances? I think the United States, have you thought clearly about whether you can really prevent Israel from invading or continue to delay the follow-up? Whether the whole world can bear the effect is another question. Let’s move on to the commercial. What does Brother Bing think of this war ? Of course the United States now has no choice, so it must fully support Israel . The United States also used this policy in the past to protect itself. It has interests in the Middle East , so it will definitely continue to do this. But I think it is probably powerless in diplomacy. Why? Because you see, it went to Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia ignored him . The two talks ended in less than an hour. Because your request is something that Saudi Arabia has no way of complying with. You ask it to help you condemn your Muslim brothers. Are you calling Saudi Arabia an enemy of the entire Arab world ? Is there something wrong with him? He will never do such a thing. So he probably just received you politely and ended it hastily. I can't talk about it. So why did he talk for a long time and get nothing ? Now he turned around and said that he hoped mainland China could help. But do you think mainland China would be stupid enough to help him convince these sands? Countries such as Ukraine, Arabia or the Middle East , mainland China, the first one has no need to do this, the second one is that even if he convinces, he can’t convince anyone to convince the Israeli army, no one can convince Israel, because even the United States can’t convince Israel , who else can convince them? The United States doesn't dare to convince him. He doesn't even dare to touch you. If you touch Israel, you might get scolded by Israel. So I think the most difficult thing now is when will Israel stop its revenge ? If the fire does not stop and he enters the Gaza Strip and starts sweeping like this , it will gradually arouse greater and greater anger in the Middle East. The first guest to introduce this hour is Guo Zhengliang, a PhD in political science from Yale, and a senior media person from Ping An . Commentator Xie Hanbing, host, hello everyone, and former deputy secretary-general of the National Security Council Yang Yongming, teacher Qian Zi, hello everyone. It’s too hard to talk. Good audience friends, let’s take a look at Blue and White. It’s also hard to talk . It ’s also an impasse . It seems that there is no solution now. Let’s take a look. On October 14th , which is Saturday, the blue and white team held a pre-conference meeting. It seemed that the atmosphere was good , but the opinions of both sides were different, including the People's Party's proposal to conduct a general public opinion poll , but the Kuomintang suddenly proposed that it should be open. Is it too late for the so-called democratic primary election? This is a question raised by many people. So at 2 o'clock in the afternoon the next day, Sunday, Ke Wenzhe attended a book launch conference and directly scolded and choked him . You, Kim Puchong, are you deliberately proposing methods that are difficult to implement? Are you not intending to cooperate? Jin Puchong also held a press conference at 4 o'clock in the afternoon two hours later to refute . Let's listen to the two of them. If you look at Ke Wenzhe's statement first , Ke Wenzhe's personality is like this. It 's very rare for him to be very angry and directly scold Jin Pucong. In fact, he rarely comes out to hold press conferences in public. He responded temporarily at 4 o'clock on Sunday afternoon. His response attitude was actually satisfactory. To be honest, what is the point of dispute between the two sides ? That is the way to produce presidential and vice-presidential candidates. The two sides have great differences. So whether there will be a second meeting, it seems that even a second meeting will be difficult to achieve because Kim Pucong said that he said Blue and White were originally There is a second meeting on the 17th , but Chen Zhihan said that this is a misinformation. We mentioned last time that the fastest is Tuesday, which is the 17th. But from the beginning to the end, we hope to wait for internal discussions before responding to the next meeting. The time means that I have to go back to the staff meeting on Saturday to get Ke Wenzhe to agree and we will decide the next time, so I didn’t say anything about the meeting on Tuesday. The matter has reached this point. I personally think it will be difficult to continue the discussion. Has the situation been broken? Wu Zijia said that Ke Wenzhe had a plan behind this. He had a strategy and wanted to make a fuss by taking advantage of the gap in the Battle Blue, Zhu Lilun , and Han Yu, where everyone was divided and had different ideas. Because there was a conflict, the Blue Camp had a conflict, so Wu Zijia said that Ke Wenzhe deliberately fell out with Hou Youyi and was seeking a channel to communicate with Zhu Lilun. What Hou Youyi means to fall out is to fall out with Jin Pucong and then talk to Zhu Lilun. They want to take the initiative. Blue and White each have their own secrets. We have just seen whether it is possible for the Kuomintang Party. Ke Wenzhe just wants to give an explanation to the people who hope that Blue and White will cooperate . When I came to negotiate, I just said that I didn’t like this condition. In the end , he still wanted to take the route of abandoning the guarantee. Jin Pucong had already mentioned his plan before . The worst-case scenario was that he would fall down with his chest puffed out, which meant that I was very dignified . I lost. I was also very dignified. I fell down with my chest held out. But there are also some so-called conspiracy theories saying that he actually didn’t want this blue and white to be combined. We have a look at all kinds of theories. Let’s see if Ko Wenzhe ’s wishful thinking was to abandon bail. If there were examples in the past, the probability of success would be high. Let’s look at the vote count in the Taipei mayoral election in 1994. Zhao Shaokang and Huang Dazhou turned blue when he failed to bail. The camp was divided . Chen Shui-bian was elected. In the 2000 presidential election, the same pan-blue failed. James Soong and Lien Chan were pan-blue. The result was Chen Shui-bian. In the 2018 Taipei mayoral election, Chen Shui-bian was elected. The one who bailed successfully was the Green Camp. Green Camp bailed and succeeded. Ke Wenzhe was elected because of Yao Wenzhi. He was abandoned, and he only got 17.3% of the votes. In the Hsinchu mayoral election closest to us in 2022, the Blue and White combination was successful. Lin Gengren was abandoned, and Gao Hongan was elected. Let’s take a look at the past, learn from the past, and learn from the past. Let's see if it's possible to bail out today . Brother Liang, what are you laughing at ? Jian Gu Zhi, Jian Gu Zhi Lai, people can't tell you. OK, if you want to talk, I said it's strange. Why do you keep calling me Jian Gu...Jian Gu Zhi, Jian Gu Zhi. Today I tell you that the Kuomintang has its basic base and Ke Wenzhe must fight against the non-zoning, so it is impossible to abandon the bail. No matter which camp thinks so, you are overestimating yourself. So do you think Ke Wenzhe wants to abandon the bail? If you abandon the bail, you will lose. As long as there is no agreement, you two will end up with Lai Qingde being elected. So if anyone has the idea of ​​​​abandoning the bail, it is just a fantasy. You think that the Kuomintang is plastic and there is no need to support the base. And if you really part ways, both parties will die. The loyalists said some things that criticized the other party, so they left a lot of resentment. I 'm telling you about the Kuomintang. Don't just think about the president's cooperation. Your regional legislators really need the votes of the Kuomintang. So I will talk about it in another program today. I will talk about everything. Once you feel that the president cannot be negotiated, you must at least negotiate the cooperation with the Legislative Yuan first. For example, the two sides must support each other , and then the president and vice president must be tied up in the election of the president and vice president of the Legislative Yuan. Otherwise, I tell you, even the regional legislators of the Kuomintang will collapse because The Kuomintang Party has at least 10% of the votes in every county and city. Then look at how many candidates have a lead of less than 5%. It is almost gone. And let me put it bluntly, do you think that every candidate of the Kuomintang has Xu Qiaoxin? In fact , many people don't know you at all . If you don't create a big atmosphere of blue and white , and Ke Wenzhe helps you stand up, how can this signal be released ? Otherwise, some people will not vote at all. This possibility certainly exists, so what I mean is It means don’t think about the presidential election and then forget about the whole thing. Because you two don’t let each other do anything as a legislator, don’t do it. In the end, even the DPP loses more than half of the legislators . You are the biggest sinner in history, Zhu Lilun. Do you want it? Is it right to jump into the sea? If you get the regional legislators of the Kuomintang, because there is no way for Blue and White to merge , the votes of the People’s Party will not be willing to vote for you. When the legislators also lose, why don’t Zhu Lilun jump into the sea and resign? That’s why I say this kind of thing It's not a joke. It's really not a joke. I think that's the case . The registration deadline is November 20. Both parties must at least list the feasibility of their plans. You have to list the technical feasibility of their plans. For example , I think it is open to the primary election. It's too late. It's too late . Jin Pucong, you said it was too late . Please list a plan for me. The Kuomintang told me it was too late. Yes, then please write it down because I participated in Peng Mingmin's open primary election . It lasted for half a year from beginning to end. They are a county. It’s OK for cities and counties to follow the American model in voting like this. Well, like Ke Wenzhe , you said that it would be enough to hold three debates and then conduct polls in a month. Now you still have to discuss which polling companies how to conduct debates , and the time for polls is not available yet . When they get stuck with each other, Ke Wenzhe said that each polling company would select 5 companies and then bring them out repeatedly. I don’t care what your plan is. Please immediately come up with a plan that can be implemented within two weeks and show us the SOP. Otherwise, you guys Even if you are talking about lies, none of what you are talking about is feasible. You are saying that I will hold three debates and then do polls. Even this discussion will take at least one or two weeks. Yes, you will only have two weeks left by then. How to implement it in a week is correct . So who are you talking to? That’s why I said that the first one is to come up with feasible solutions and the second one is to talk about the proportion. Because I made it clear that if it is 50% 50%, the People’s Party will never do it. Participated What do you mean when you say 50% 50% ? It means 50% in the open primaries and 50% in the polls. That is more complicated. I will tell you that your current unilateral plan will not be participated by both parties, so you are already stuck. But I will tell you any game. It's all like this. If a certain party thinks that it has no chance of winning, it will not participate. Therefore, the Kuomintang's version of the People's Party is absolutely impossible to participate. The Kuomintang 's version is beneficial to the Kuomintang. The People's Party thinks that I have no chance of winning. If I don't participate, the chance of winning is zero. So the chance of winning is zero. If he doesn't participate in the open primaries, the KMT's chances of winning are zero. Hou Youyi may not lose in the polls , but they don't dare to do so. So I said it should take a proportion. If the KMT's open primaries are so favorable, why don't you use 7 to 3? You are too advantageous. 50 % to 50% I guarantee you that Ke Wenzhe will not participate, so do you want 7 to 3? Then 7 to 3. The People's Party is considering it. I said that this is the only way to talk now , otherwise there is no need to talk. Come on Brother Bing. In fact, I think both parties They just shouted out such a thing on purpose because just now Brother Liang has analyzed very clearly that the open democratic primary election is impossible at that time. In fact, just for the funding staff, I don’t think both parties can afford it. Is the Kuomintang very rich now ? Who is paying the right thing? So I think that was raised on purpose. It was just a counter-case. Because the Kuomintang has been accusing the Kuomintang before, saying that you said my polls were not good but you didn’t even come up with a counter-case. What is your counter-case ? Then Jin Pucong raised one. When he mentioned this to you , he also knew that the People’s Party would never accept something that normal people would not accept, so he deliberately brought it up for you and knew that you would object to it. In fact, the People’s Party originally proposed a so-called debate and then held three debates. Then there will be a poll of the five major companies, which is also out to cut the KMT. Everyone knows that you have held so many debates. What are you doing, right ? Otherwise, I think his original purpose was to let you cut it. You probably cut it into one. But the Kuomintang has agreed to the debate. So think about it. If you hold three more debates, you will still have to hold an open poll. What are you going to do for the next election? I don’t know, maybe it won’t be completed next year, right? Ah, it will never be finished, so I think both sides are just calling for battle, deliberately throwing an item out, and I will bid you all over the place to see how you react. So this pre-conference meeting is originally a kind of test of each other 's bottom line . So I think everyone should not take it too seriously. I don’t think the two sides have officially started talking at all. Now they are just testing each other to contact each other. And Ke Wenzhe also deliberately made a gesture and deliberately choked you. Otherwise, if I let you choose, you wouldn’t be able to choose. Is that right ? In fact, I am Hou Youyi, and I will choke back. I said, let me choose, and I will choose it for you to see. That’s right . Of course, Hou Youyi is not this kind of person, so I think we are just there for each other now. While talking, I think the strategy of the Kuomintang is that he actually throws this thing out and lets you slowly talk about it and let everyone let the bullets fly . Then what is he doing? He wants to quickly integrate the Kuomintang because he held the Banqiao rally on the same day . I found a lot of big players, and they all came. Ma Ying-jeou also came, Zhu Lilun also came, Wu Boxiong, Wang Jinping, and Han Guoyu. Of course, Hanguo Yu also said very emotional words. Next, there will be 4 games all the way to November 4th. His purpose is to be in Before November 4th, gather up the morale quickly and let him win in the polls. Even if he doesn't win every poll, Ke Wenzhe is at least close to him. That's it. I look back and you want the polls. Is it okay? I'm doing this for Blue and white , let’s talk about polls with you. At this time, when I told you to replace Ke Wenzhe, I began to hesitate because Ke Wenzhe may not be sure to win. To be honest, in fact, I have always felt that Hou Youyi really may not lose in the polls . Why? Because If you have no way to recruit the people who vote, if you are green, will you vote for Hou Youyi ? Many green people may go to vote , either to vote or to accept polls . I said this deliberately , but you have to sign an approval card. When you say open polls, I don’t mean open polls. I mean general polls. I mean there are a lot of green people. Maybe they can directly say that I support Hou Youyi . I am afraid of this and that. There is no way. I am afraid that you have no way to filter . You are also afraid. I don’t have time to do this kind of screening , so I think Hou Youyi would not necessarily lose in the poll . So let’s just give him a debate in the Hou Youyi debate . To be honest, I never think that debates in Taiwan are a debate at all. Everyone who is not participating in the debate is reading the draft , and the questions asked are also very gentle and honest . And you often see the candidates who don’t even answer other people’s questions, but talk about their own issues or answer questions that are not what they asked. So some people Do you dare to hold a real debate? I don’t think anyone really dares. So in my opinion, Hou Youyi has nothing to be afraid of. In fact, you haven’t noticed? Recently, more and more people in the Kuomintang say that they will poll with him. So what ? I also think this is the only way to make the decision in the end. I think unless the blue and white are inconsistent , the final polls must account for a large proportion. I want to ask Teacher Yang for advice. I think the current situation is very likely that the polls are different from the initial polls . You can do both of them, but if there is a proportion, you can’t do the second one. There is no time at all. Basically, both parties are shouting out prices and then propose a comparison that is beneficial to themselves. It seems fair and democratic. They hope to focus the media's focus here and make themselves less vulnerable during the momentum of this comparison . I must say that in this process, Ke Wenzhe was in the lead. What he and his entire team came up with were relatively proactive. However , he proposed this in the first meeting. The primary election was a bit of a surprise , and it attracted attention in the polls, but later I realized that it is possible for you to do this at this time. Of course, it is possible that it is just a simplification, so you can either do two I have done them all but only have 2 or 3 weeks left because I saw that Hou Youyi ’s next few rallies will be from Taichung to Kaohsiung and back to Taipei and New Taipei. It will probably be registered on November 20th , the first week of November. They must work out a plan around the first to second week of November, so I think it is most likely that they won't do it until later. In other words, it may be that the pipeline that we don't know about may already be there. When it comes to how to do it, I don’t know. I’m just guessing, but is it possible ? Of course it is , because to be honest, the two sides are talking about how to cooperate, and they are actually videotaping it from beginning to end. How can we continue the discussion? How can there be any negotiation? This section must have one, that is to say, it is not videotaped. I think Hou Youyi’s autonomy, enthusiasm, and dominance must come out so far . Yesterday, he went to the business district of Taichung Central to take pictures with young people. He didn’t have one or two. As for the news, no one knows that today he went to Taoyuan Temple to pay homage and proposed Hakka policies. Do you know? I only found out after watching the news. I don’t know what Hakka policies, his autonomy, positivity, dominance, Hou Youyi, you must come out. You think you were praised for your good speech, right? You showed a little bit that you really want to compete for a big position , and don't talk about blue and white combination or white and blue combination now, just talk about the winning combination, right ? To be honest, if you fall down while lying on your chest, don’t say this. Taiwan has also fallen, right? This sounds very tragic , but it is also very pessimistic.
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