Studio One Pro v5.2 vs Cubase Pro 11 (As a Cubase User)

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hey guys what's up so today uh i'm doing presonus studio one version 5.2 as a cubase user of cubase version 11 in whichever maintenance update they have going on um so yeah this should be fun this has kind of been long overdue in a way but at the same time this is perfect time for this so um a lot of people requested that uh they wanted a new video about the newer versions of both softwares and so i'm just going to go over some of the nuances some of the features at least in my workflow that might be uh worth mentioning i'm sure i'll miss a few so forgive me on that but uh uh without further ado let's just get into it so right out of the gate we're gonna hop into studio one i'm gonna show you something that cubase just outright you know steinberg we've requested for years it's multi-track editing so you can warp cut quantitize you know detect whatever all on a single screen without having a bunch of windows pop up and i'm not going to say it's bad in cubase but it's nothing like this this is great okay so we just go in turn on bend mode view the tracks and we can go in take our bend tool and just you know with the snap on or off here i got turned off there you go and you just go in to every hit and if you group the channel or all the channels these are drums here boom you can move them all and they're going to be responsive just like you'd expect it's pretty great other daws do this studio one accomplishes this very well and i gotta give them hats off onto it because it works great and it thus far i haven't encountered any bugs with it so that's really cool but okay so say we wanted to detect transients okay so we're going to analyze everything and you can see boom it automatically analyzes whichever channels are selected you can do them one at a time uh i find that it helps with performance analyzing you can do multiples but uh you know whatever okay great you go through adjust the threshold really fine tune how many hit points if you're a steinberg cubase user is what we call these in cubase land but they're called audio bend markers in um studio one and you could immediately detect these very efficiently much quicker than uh you know using cubase's hit point detection system which is awesome but okay great we want to slice this we're just going to go up there hit slice and it creates our slices like you see here but in this option i have it on merge so it merged it into an audio file but if we double click that it opens up the lower window and you can see that all of our edits have taken place everything was sliced we can just dissolve it or unmerge the track if we prefer to see that but you get the gist and you can go through all your audio tracks without opening up multiple different screens going in one by one it's just so much easier to see easier to work with so the workflow for studio one i think this is one of the areas where maybe if you're used to it it just takes some time getting used to it's great you can see i can still resize the tracks one thing i do like is you can see waveforms are in the folder tracks so you can see exactly kind of visually what's going on in each folder track so i think that's a pro but you can see here if i press z it does a similar thing with cubase like cubase it opens up the channels to its previously saved state and that's the way studio one works is you have to save zoom states shift z if i know correctly saves that as a zoom state and then if just engaging the hotkey z it'll open that back up now while it's useful on its own it's not quite as nice as the way cubase handles things it just feels a little bit more clunky if i go to resize channels or move quickly throughout the project it's just not quite as zippy and refined like cubases in that department so cubase here has a few different ways to move around the project it's pretty self-explanatory zoom in zoom out up down track height to me is really important in being able to adjust those you can obviously do that like this pull them down and everything's good to go but where cubase takes the cake and makes it far superior over studio one in this regard is boom i can press z and it'll collapse each track if i press it again it'll open it up it's way more snappy and accessible for larger projects for me studio one it's getting close but it's not quite there in project maneuverability so in cubase i have the mixer up here if i open this up better so you can see it you can see there's the mixer history so this is really cool if we make any change in cubase's mixer or to an insert plug-in or whatever have you here i'll sweep the eq like that you can see it's making this change and it's all laid out chronologically by time by name in a linear format that's non-destructive so moving on into studio one here uh you can see we have our listen bus enabled and we have sonar works on it it functions very similar to cubase's control room and uh that's great but uh it is a little bit more streamlined for better for worse it doesn't have the same routing capabilities and features as control room does covering cubase's control room this is pretty nice we're just going to go up right to the right hand corner here click control room you could also do it through the mixer and you can see here you have the mix and cue controls here you can go into the inserts have things like sonarworks or other plugins whatever you want to reference uh in your monitoring chain you can do that all here in control room and it's super nice and it's definitely a in my opinion a big advantage over studio one's listen bus cue base here if we go through on the mixing inserts it operates very similar to studio one i can click and drag these on over like this and you can see that is also affected in the mixer history as well um but i do need a key modifier uh the alt key to be able to drag and drop these over at will so it's a small thing but i gotta cover it track colorization both daws do this but studio one wins hands down in this area because you get more color selection and you get a visual representation and it's not buggy look how easy it is boom select whatever color you want highlight the tracks then select your color and move on you're good to go cubase is riddled with bugs in that area now going into the bottom half of the mixer here cubase has that as well but i don't like using it it's very difficult and it has tabs for you know the volumes and then the inserts it's weird and sends it works what's weird moving the inserts around although is about equal in both daws both are snappy one area where cubase loses is studio one has the splitter so studio one wins here they also have macro control so you can actually you know assign different parameters to different things you could do in the splitter you can do multi-band processing you can do even more chains if you want it's really cool so one thing i don't like in studio one is how they handle instrument tracks um both adding and taking them away and deleting see i have mojito here i have this track okay cool if i want to take that remove the track it takes away the track but not the instrument uh you have to select a completely different option if you want to delete the track and the instrument so it's cool it's simple but it's just kind of cluttered a little you know chaotic when you're working fast in cubase you delete the track it's gone so one feature i love about studio one is this loop to selected events and it's on by default you can turn it off up here on the toolbar or on the timeline toolbar if you right-click we can adjust that and uh make it uh enable it or disable it if we like i love it i know other daws do that but a really cool feature cubase does something similar but you have to have a hot key for i'll show that here in a bit so on cubase's end here um you can see it has a lot of the same uh features and and availabilities for the the loop selector but there's no option to actually have the loop selected events like in studio one unfortunately doesn't matter what you click there's nothing really that just automatically does it there is however a default if you hit p on the keyboard it will loop to the selected event just like that and uh you know you can see here press p again loops to the selected event very handy you know works the same way but you do need that hotkey in order for that to work another really cool thing is if i go into one of these clips and i love this about 21 is uh we have a speed uh we could slow down or speed up individual media clips or audio clips here so you know i just made this a little smaller there and you can make it larger or whatever have you but uh man i really just love that feature makes it super handy to record uh you know if maybe you're not a super fast player you could still play to a click it'll still be in time if you just double it or half it or whatever but you can uh slow down the parts speed them up like that and uh or anywhere in between very cool very cool feature cubase you can't do that with cubase i'm sorry um you can time stretch a clip but it's not this precise another thing i wanted to cover really quick was studio one's midi inserts or they call them uh note effects but it's it's essentially in cubase's terms in steinberg terms it's it's midi inserts and these are are really cool they're really cool in cubase they're really kind of a big thing many many moons ago and they're still a very useful tool but uh basically we can use a note effect and put them on a channel like a midi or an instrument track like this and it will cause like arpeggiations chords repetitions stuff like that so i have a synth here add a note effect or a midi insert here okay okay so we just drew one single solid line but you hear that this is causing it to repeat it's just a cool very creative way to get more interesting things going in your midi patterns and it can be very uh creative and inspiring to work with especially studio one plugins like repeater and their media insert effects or note effects honestly they they are much better than cubases in my opinion not just in looks but also in functionality and how they operate so this is really cool let's uh go with like an arpeggiator and you see exactly where you can go with this kind of stuff very cool honestly way better laid out than cubase uh cubase still offers these but uh it's just not as fun to work with them if i'm going to be completely honest so back in cubase we have the ability to import samples and audio files just like in studio one obviously right but you can see this is stereo file we have this going and say i want to split it to two mono files or if it was a model file that just got rendered off as a stereo file we come up here convert files boom convert it multi-channel to mono there you go two mono individual channels very quick very convenient super powerful tool uh i use this almost in every mix because sometimes you'll get audio files that are stereo on the opposite end you can then take that if you wanted say two mono tracks stereo boom there you go and you're good to go i really love that feature in studio one in order to convert files like that it's a couple additional clicks a little bit more dragging but not not bad so if i import this stereo sample here here we go we got the stereo sample going on we want to convert this to say two channels you can do this opposite if you wanted to just reverse the steps i open up the track you see those little dots i just clicked boom stereo mono there you go we want mono okay cool we're going to take that make sure that mono was enabled put this back in our browser it's going to create an additional copy and then we're going to take this copy and re-import it back in to studio one just drag it right on in here and you can see boom there you have it mono pretty simple just a little different than cubase and you can look down at the bottom here and it'll verify what file type it is for you as well all right comping in cubase let's get into it um so i have a track here uh actually before we get too far in we actually have track versions just like in studio one you can see i can add i can replace i can take a new one i can take all that out track versions i use them all the time they're lovely but into the comping you see i've these different layers here now if i open this channel and i hit the comp button here it'll show me all the layers or in studio one they're called layer takes you can see now i have to go up to the toolbar and grab my my scissors tool and my comp tool in order to cut and splice things this works really well but it is a little cumbersome on cubase's behalf um it's logical so i can't really criticize it too much but uh you know it's it works it works and it works well i like it but it's after using studio one especially a little bit more cumbersome so and there's our take here cupping in studio one here you'll see it's a little bit more uh modernized it's essentially the same which is good uh we have track takes just like in cubase you can see here we can add we can you know take them away we duplicate them whatever we need really awesome if you click right here you can see all the different uh takes that we have in this particular recording here for this demo you can see i'm just using the one selector tool i don't have to go up to the toolbar select two one to two different tools it just immediately selects using the selection tool whatever comp i want to use but you can see here now say this is our comp we can just leave it like that we can bounce it to a new audio file like that if we didn't like that and we could still access the different individual layers which i thought was very neat in studio one kind of intuitive even when i go figure but if we go back another thing we do is we can merge this audio part if we go into event and then uh merge part this will merge it together like it's one single audio file but you can see the different parts of our comp so it's a little cleaner but also a little bit more non-destructive so let's talk pitch correction software really quick cubase comes with very audio and it's amazing however you'll notice that the keys here are inverted it's not a bug they did it on purpose i hate it but you know work through it whatever but it's cool you know you can uh you know adjust a standard pitch you can cut things get really fine and very detailed into the edits works great you can adjust timing like that you can adjust volume you can adjust the pitch curve which is very very handy for fine-tuning the vocal if somebody just oh hey you need at the end of it just go up or down a little bit you know whatever it's great obviously you could also do uh format shifting here too so it's really really powerful and something you'd end up paying a good couple hundred dollars more for in melodyne because you don't get that until you get up into the higher echelons of melodyne of course the melodyne you know being kind of want the og's there you also get monophonic and polyphonic in melodyne and in very audio unfortunately at the moment we only have monophonic but you know before we get too into it i have to say the r2 integration between both daws and most daws these days is just phenomenal amazing work to the people who have worked on that man that is it's like black magic it's it's so good it almost feels like you're cheating so uh great work on there it also goes show you in in context of studio one you don't need a built-in uh you know proprietary pitch correction or anything like that in order to make things work so you can share the love with other companies you know and i think it i think that's cool but coming in here to melody and you can see this is just melody essential works great i can adjust individual notes i have a timing macro uh if i come up here to the top timing macro it's cool quantizes the time but you're limited you can't do it by hand or anything like that same thing with pitch you can you can do pitch by hand but you can't you also have this uh macro here but you can't do any pitch curve adjustment in essential you can't do any format adjusting an essential uh or volume adjustment and essential no you know sibilant detection it's really state-of-the-art stuff really great but you don't really have access to that kind of fine-tuning here but you can split things you can't adjust pitch you can do all your basic stuff which is really more than enough if you're uh you know a decent enough vocalist or you know just doing some minor pitch adjustments here and there well guys there you have it studio one in cubase version 11. again this was studio one version four point or 5.2 and cubase version 11. so i get a lot of questions and it's a fair question especially people who are looking maybe their season they're looking to make the switch but they don't have time to test out the software i get it you know i'm both a fan of studio one and cubase i think they're both great they're uniquely powerful in their own slight different ways i i'm still primarily a cubase user but for those of you who are wanting to know like yeah i'm season i want to make a switch or oh hey i i'm new to this what do i start with literally any of them they're both fantastic you can't go wrong with either of them that being said i think studio one is a little bit more accessibly priced for the money and has great features um obviously there's things like uh the dongle situation studio one doesn't have that which is great cubase it's not a big issue if you're a studio user like i am um but if you ever want to load it up on a laptop it becomes a little bit more of a hassle to say the least uh however it should be noted that uh steinberg is working on a dongle free uh licensing system so heck yeah that's cool um otherwise you know i again i personally feel i'm just mostly comfortable with cubase myself so i'll probably continue using cubase primarily but i'm still doing i'm finding myself outsourcing a little bit more work to studio one just because i like the workflow it's very similar to cubase in most ways the maneuvering as you saw gets a little bit different and difficult in my opinion with studio one in larger projects cubase handles larger projects still better however presonus is making good strides into improving in that area and they've improved it a lot since uh version 4.5 i think was the last version in the last video again if you haven't checked out that last video go check it out there's some cool information in there and you can kind of get a compare and contrast going for you but otherwise yeah that's gonna wrap it up for me guys let me know if you have any questions and uh what more content you'd like to see um let me know and i'll do my best to get back to you you guys have a great day evening whichever thanks for watching seven years
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Channel: Method of Kolishin
Views: 18,570
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Keywords: cubase, DAW, Studio One, Presonus, Steinberg, Music production, audio engineering
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Length: 21min 58sec (1318 seconds)
Published: Fri Apr 09 2021
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