Steven Bancarz / The Second Coming of the New Age - Part#2

live with Ryan Reese from Southern California this is live with Ryan Reese call now 180 day five six four sixty one seventy three or post your questions using the hashtag live Brian Reese on his Instagram Twitter or Facebook all right I promised you guys a show too with Stephen banned cars we have them in studio right now Guess's new book out the second coming of the New Age get it it's bomb and we're gonna talk about some some of the chapters today in studio plus Steve last show we talked about your testimony and it's always good and it's always switched up a little bit but um no I know the New Age movement is it's a growing thing and it's packaged a little bit different and I've seen it as I travel around I'm in Hollywood you know in the music industry from any kind of music festival I actually toured to all the different music festivals that's kind of I just want to be with like people that don't believe in God I just had this heart for evangelism and I always pray oh my god open the door when I go to these music festivals then so awesome because I'll be hanging out and all since someone will walk up and be like hey I recognize you I've seen you on YouTube and you were interviewing some you know some musician that they that I had on the show or or you know actually I didn't tell you this I did get recognized on YouTube from being on a show with you as well so people come up and they have these questions and it's just they'll still they'll find the YouTube channel from just like another show that was played or whatever but I always pray when I go to these music festivals that God will open up a door and I could be in a music festival with 150,000 people and then God will just open up one door or sometimes I'll go and I'll talk to like nine different people it's always these different conversations the people that are searching for God or they've given their life to God but they never grew to that next level where they're still caught up in you know saying or witchcraft or whatever it is so God uses me just for these little nuggets to be like well okay so you gave your life to God but you're still struggling like one girl had like demonic still still happening in their room so I got to actually pray for her and say okay look it this is what we're gonna do you need to go home you need to get rid of if you have any books to like you know supernatural films you know Harry Potter stuff anything that ties yourself to witchcraft music you're listening to go home get that stuff get rid of it get it Norton oil I don't care if you even have cooking oil whatever it is just put the oil on the walls and just pray and say this is the house of the Lord the Holy Spirit feel this place push out anything that is not of you any darkness and flood this thing with your spirit the Holy Spirit and pray over your kids and I prayed for her too and basically what happened is a couple weeks that her she ended up at DM and me and saying that she's had no more supernatural things happening in a room and it's just awesome because God opens these doors and I know that you do a lot of traveling and you're obviously your ministries has to do with New Age and the occult and stuff but I think it'd be awesome for this show to kind of talk about your travels like what you're up to right now you obviously have a book out hmm talk a little bit about your book I know you've been doing like some travels endorsing the book right doing shows talking to people talk about all that stuff yeah yeah what you said was interesting you talked about how it's everywhere basically you've seed in the music industry you've see it in Hollywood and that's really what inspired me and the co-author too to write this book was that you know we both came out of the New Age roof and I care it came out of the New Age movement we talked about that last week on the program and I'm looking around and I'm seeing how pervasive it is if you look at statistics for example Yoga is a ten billion dollar industry thirty six million Americans currently practice yoga a study from the Pew Research Center found that about 40% of Americans say they meditate at least once a week you have the psychic services industry okay wait hold on I want to knock one thing out of town let's talk about yoga okay Yoga is massive yes let's hit on my yoga tell us about it okay so Yoga the word yoga means Union and it's referring to a union between the personal self the Atman as it's called in Hinduism and Brahman the impersonal force that undergirds the universe and makes up all things in the universe the substance of all things is an impersonal force an impersonal God they call Brahman and all is Brahman Brahman is all and to reach that state of union between the personal south and that impersonal universal self that state of Union that is what yoga is meant to facilitate so the whole goal of yoga is to bring the personal self into an understanding that he is ultimately divine by nature that he is ultimately Brahman that is the goal of yoga and that's why even Webster's dictionary defines it as a Hindu theistic practice and you have the Hindu Association of America that is furious with what's going on in the West where you have these you know it's like a Starbucks yoga pant type culture where they're going for yoga I see yoga pants everywhere here in Orange County right it's that's exactly that no yoga pants are cool girls can wear Y ok now it's funny the Starbucks in yoga and I just guys like yeah yeah but the point is is that people I should maybe should have said that but the point is is that people are unaware of what they're actually doing yes the spiritual roots are and what the ramifications of it are so if the whole goal of yoga is for me to realize my own self divinity the goal is not to be more fit the goal is not to be more relaxed the goal is not to be more stretched out and more agile the goal is psycho-spiritual and we document in chapter 10 of our book everything people would need to know about yoga but I just going to cover a little bit of it so right there's some postures in yoga that are named after Hindu deities and when you hold them they're meant to invoke the properties and the essence of those gods that's getting some of the hand postures as well they're meant to draw in the energies of these deities right and so and once again you're holding these postures to revere these deities and invoke their energies so that you can take a step closer to realizing your own deity and your own divinity so it's idolatry as a means to more idolatry the warm-up posture and Yoga is a Sun Salutation right people often don't know that and so how do we understand Sun worship and earth worship in the Bible read Romans 1 there's a direct God says people who worship the creation rather than the Creator and getting involved in all kinds of horrible sin because it's a really big sign depravity of the property in God's eyes and when we start previewing the stars or the earth more than we do him and if I'm holding postures that are meant to revere and worship the moon or the Sun and I'm holding these postures that are meant to revere and invoke deities right from a Hindu Pantheon that's pretty concerning and so so I got a question yeah so there's different kinds of yoga I've seen like so there's one yoga where people are actually meditating and they're doing holding these postures yeah and then I've seen another yoga where there's like it's like sports sports yoga yeah so are they all this cool I would say this well don't they're not all equal so there's varying degrees of danger depending on the set and setting and that depending on the teacher all these things will contribute to us being more and more pushed outside of God's grace and the protective covering of God so for example if I'm a Christian I'm going to a yoga studio you got some some man or woman and they're telling me about you know tap into your right you're enter the universe is with you tap into your inner goddess your inner God and you know we're gonna call now on the energies of the universe and the energies of the ancestors run for the hills right exactly and they got because normally yoga studios they'll have idols up in the room they'll have photographs of like different gurus and people who they're trying to venerate right you'll have commute that's been to induce a different psycho spiritual state different tones sometimes they'll do chanting okay chanting singing songs to Shiva and so forth like so a yoga studio where you're in that environment in your chanting you're 100% gonna have a spiritual consequence after one class versus if I'm part of like some sports specific yoga or some are that that's different I would still say as a matter of conscience now yeah because there it's still intrinsically spiritual and the things that you're doing so if they're advertising it as yoga yeah I would want to stay away right because I don't know what's gonna be mixed in with that I can just do back stretching I can just you know studies have come out found and found that types of back stretches you can get from like a chiropractor there's just as effective at alleviating back pain per se and having physiological benefits as yoga right so see cuz it's you don't want to mess with it because because the way it was what was focused on yoga where it comes from it's like you're messing up life well it's like this it's like imagine a Hindu walks into a church and says I'm gonna get baptized today but not because I want to repent and give my life to Christ I just want to have a bath so I'm gonna just get baptized I'm gonna pretend it's not intrinsically spiritual I'm just gonna get I'm just gonna get baptized or a Buddhist decides I'm going to start eating communion right just because I like I like how it tastes I like the snack part of it I'm gonna pretend that there's not a spiritual element well what does the Bible say about those who take communion without discerning the body of the Lord right that's a bit as a sin it's a big sin to God what happens when we're doing things for putting ourselves in positions where there's practices that are intrinsically pagan pagan environments pagan teachers and God tells us to come you separate from the world and touch no unclean thing then I will receive you in first Corinthians 6 and to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers it tells us in first Corinthians 10:20 what pagans offer unto idols they offer unto demons and you can't sit at the table of the Lord and the table of demons you can't drink of the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons are we gonna provoke the Lord to jealousy so right there yeah well I exactly you can't mix here's another here's here's another thing well can't we do Christian yoga well if you read I think it's an exodus an interesting verse God tells his people when you go in there to dis possess these people don't inquire with them about how they serve God they're their gods and don't say to yourselves we want to learn how they serve their gods that we may serve Yahweh in the same way don't serve me in the way that they're serving their gods right here's the way I want to receive worship right Jesus as the father is looking for people who will worship Him in spirit and in truth and God gets to define those parameters not us right what about the sons of Aaron offering unauthorized fire unto the Lord strange fire unto the Lord they were both killed immediately and that's that's a big deal to God so I I'd like to talk about as being the sin of presumption you're you're testing Lord you're assuming that I can do this I can Christianize this and trust that God is going protect protect me because he knows my heart that's not biblical yeah right the Bible says this God will not be mocked whoever shows to the flesh will reap from the flesh describe destruction Galatians five tells us what the works of the flesh are sorcery and idolatry our works of the flesh so if I'm putting myself if I'm involved in a practice that biblically falls into the category but idolatry or sorcery the Bible says I'm gonna reap I'm gonna reap from that because God's not a respecter of persons the problem is he does know our hearts and our hearts are selfish and wicked yeah that's the hope that's the whole problem right so we need to look at the Word of God study these practices and like I said chapter 10 really goes into this and ask ourselves is this the kind of thing Jesus Christ himself would do is this the kind of thing the Apostle Paul himself would do is this something that I should be doing as a Christian knowing that it has spiritual ties what these postures mean knowing some of what the effects of these practices are such as the Kundalini effect or a way awakens this spiritual energy in your body that starts at your spine travels up through your chakras people are struggling online with the Kundalini effect they have headaches they have back pain they're having nightmares sleep paralysis just from practicing yoga people are feeling possessed after practicing yoga they start losing their minds after practicing yoga cuz a lot of yoga practice too is meditative right and like we can't talk about the last show there's all kinds of demonic and psycho-emotional dangers well you're doing the Oscars two demons okay so that's here because there's I love talking to Yogi's have so much information so we're gonna dissect this first of all here's a visual so when we give our life to God listeners we have the Holy Spirit inside of us so if he's in our house where the temple the Lord talks about so our house our body is the temple the Lord or our house as the Spirit of God inside of us now that means that Jesus is inside of us right so if we're doing these postures Jesus is inside jesus is with us we have Jesus in us so would he be down for that so would you allow this demonic activity to come into your house and if you knew that Jesus was posted up in your house that's basically what's happening when you visualize that that really helps you to even stop watching pornography if Jesus is inside of you and you're posted up on your couch and Jesus is next just gonna throw on a porn film right it's the same concept yeah so you got a look into these things and let's talk about the Kundalini spirit mm-hmm cuz I've seen some stuff on YouTube you know I know there's a lot of fake stuff up there but there's there's have you ever seen videos where there's like these some of these um preachers are evangelists or I don't know what they are but they're they're they're they're having these experiences and people are saying what's a Kundalini spirit yeah so what what have you learned from your research of some of the stuff out that's good okay great a lot of the stamens excited about this a lot of the symptoms people will experience in certain hyper charismatic circles there's charismatic circles which in my opinion are fine there's a certain being charismatic and going off the deep end spiritually and I think where that shift takes place is when I start desiring the supernatural more than Jesus and I start using the name of Jesus as a mantra and as a springboard to get to what my real Lord and Savior and God is namely the supernatural realm right supernatural experience that's my god now yeah so we're gonna yell out the name of Jesus we're going to take certain verses from the Bible here and there to try to facilitate an experience that I value more than Jesus himself yeah right and how did that and how do we know that we value Jesus as an end in himself our obedience to him discipleship right and some of these churches there's people they're just looking for the next impartation they're just looking they're just looking for the next prophetic word yeah they're just looking for the next the fresh fire fresh oil fresh wine yeah all this what substance can I get next from God am i chasing a substance or am i chasing a person because what happens was so here's so the Bible says this the Bible says well people will say oh well Jesus says whoever asks for the Holy Spirit you know if we ask for a fish he's not going to give us a serpent we asked for an egg he's not gonna give us a stone if we ask in his name how you know you give good gifts and if I'm how much better is God than us he's gonna give the Holy Spirit to those who ask so I'm just gonna women ask for anything that's if you're sincerely asking the Father for just the Holy Spirit a lot of people aren't actually asking God for anything they're using the name of God in vain to get something that isn't just God they want God plus and they aren't content with the Trinity right they want the next thing it's just like people in the world they want the next drug people they just want the experience right and now I know don't get me wrong I want the experience Moses says show me your glory yeah right the Bible says be filled with the spirit I think a lot of people's walks with God starts to go sideways when we get content when we're spiritually satisfied when there's more of God there's more of His goodness there's more of his presence but is it just God we want right however that we'll look what if it means that we're in a bit of a spiritual dry season as he's developing our character right and shaping us and molding us but what you happen it have is you have people on my name a few names because their ministries are already so tarnished by the reputation so one guy would be todd Bentley for example yeah oh yeah that's that's that's one of the guys right exactly and everything is about revival everything's about come here for the healing come here for the impartation fresh fire global fire ministry is you and I was involved in this I sat under a few teachers I know I shouldn't have been sitting under who had weird relationship to angels talking about invoking angels partnering with me I'll talk about that next yeah and and I was like they're carrying something there's a real presence there I want to know what they're carrying God is telling me no stay away I'm like but there's a presence there and there's power there I want to know what it is so I sat under that and I yoked myself up to these teachers right and your heart posture toward them part of that is your protective covering right if I start seeing this man as an authority over me and start receiving what he's saying as being an authority over me that's kind of like calling him father right ie make sure God and God alone is my authority he's what I'm receiving from primarily but what happens is these teachers Clinton have all the special wisdom all the special knowledge directly from angels directly from dreams and visions and now they are the mediator between me and the next step in my relationship with God yeah I need to go to them they have the answers I need to go to their meeting and get impartation right I need the baptism of fire from this guy urban upper right and I've seen that yeah yeah and so well you know it's funny cuz we were talking about a couple minutes earlier as you were saying that you know how people are just going from one event to another it's like people live from one of my heard one of my friends talking about this he was saying yeah and he was actually telling the crowd as he was speaking he was like we are at a conference you know a Holy Spirit conference and he was just like some of you guys are here you don't even read the Bible you're just living from conference to conference from from experience the experience and there's no relationship you're looking for that next word you're looking for that next vision you're looking for that next guy to pray for you know what I mean but there's nothing in between exactly just chasing that yeah exactly and and I for one I do love Holy Spirit conferences I love I'm there too but we also have a serious relationship with God that were reading we're looking for God to speak to us individually exactly his word exactly not living from a just experience I love the experience too but I don't live from experience experience exactly what happens when this happens what happens if you're living from experience alone and then you're in a dry season because the spirit of God's been grieved in your life and now his presence isn't dwelling as richly upon you as it was when you were on that spiritual high mountaintop experience at the conference what's really the substance of your faith yeah right when things get tough because if it's just sensationalism it's just emotionalism it's just if it's just encounter which ultimately it's going to be an encounter to the indwelling presence of God but if it's just that right we need to get into the trenches with God when things are tough we need to sometimes you and act our will grit our teeth to overcome certain sin in our life right we need to develop that kind of I want to say militant relationship against sin and devotion to Christ right and that takes it's hard spiritual work sometimes right but people don't have that understanding of discipleship right they think it's just going to be I'm just gonna live forever encouraged forever spiritually high okay life hits now what do you have left because now that one liner is not enough to get you through now that fresh fire conference isn't enough to get you through and you haven't been in the Word of God yourself developing a relationship with God in the secret place to really know God what's the next turn God where's your spirit here where's your voice here right and so when it comes to these things I was listening to these ministers right and I'm like okay there's a present there's a power here I'm pressing in I'm praying for an hour at a time out loud I'm like I want what they have got if you have this I received this more of your glory more of your presents angels whatever and I was like I was suspect about that but I was like yeah you're like okay this is you god I wanted I wanted it all I'm asking for it all and what ended up happening was I started to have anxiety on the presence of my chest like I was about to have a panic attack all day every day I started to see everything had an orange hue to it this was this year earlier this year everything had an orange hue to it there was one time where I felt like I was in a waking lucid dream literally and I was like this is so crazy and I'm I'm I'm praying I'm listening to worship music I'm listening to weird worship music that I think stirs up that thing in me you understand it's not bringing me closer to Christ it's throwing up some thing I'm looking for in the name of Christ and it reached a point where yeah the orange hue it was giving me anxiety I couldn't hear from God I couldn't get to God I had this anxiety my chest I looked up all these symptoms and these were symptoms of a Kundalini Awakening and this is what a lot of people claim is going on in certain hyper charismatic circles of the churches where there's a lot of behaviors that mimic Kundalini awakening is coming from Hinduism and Eastern religions where there's this belief that we each have this dormant Kundalini energy lying at the base of our spine and that a Kundalini awakening happens when all your chakras are cleansed and line up and allow universal energy to flow through you and that awakens this Kundalini serpent through your chakras which crawls up your spine and illuminates opens your pineal gland chakra your third eye and that gives you extra spiritual insight now into the spirit world that awakens your psychic ability awakens your spiritual ability and that's common in yoga who lean awakenings that's a goal in the New Age movement and so that's so how does that happen with these these guys so so people showed up to these conferences or these these charismatic churches and there they're going after what's not necessarily God they're going after this right they are I'm so you're opening your you basically open yourself to the demonic you're opening yourself up to imitating spirits who are there mimicking the holy spirit right there mimicking because the angel or God Satan can manifest as angel light Satan can manifest as an angel of light and people have to realize not everyone who bears the name of Jesus is a saved we know that from Scripture yeah because we were talking about the last show you know you so we're gonna show up on that day say I can't start out demons I did all the stuff he says get away from you Nick right because of a nick that's right so not everyone who names the name of Jesus has even saved ya and and God will move in your life in spite of that not being saved right so people think just cuz I received from his hand while he must be a spiritual authority now those people were casting out demons they were preaching these people God for the good of his church will move in your heart despite the pastor young unsaved being off and people need to understand that and people all says God's the one that does it not them that's right and people also need to understand this just because someone might actually be saved doesn't mean that they are a spiritually trustworthy to lead me be qualified to lead me or see demon-free now I want to give up a prescription example of this Paul talks about to the church in Corinth he calls them brothers he affirms them as being brothers he's like you've got all kind of sexual sin in your church who whoever did this one thing where he slept with his father's wife get him out of there yeah don't have any fellowship with that guy turn this guy over to Satan but you guys that just clean up your act and he talks about their their spiritual perversion as well they're misused of the gift of tongues in the corporate setting they don't have any accountability for the gift of prophecy in a corporate setting there's no he's like when you're using prophecy they get it together guys have another prophet over here another guy over to give the prophecy here stand by and test what he's what he's saying against the Word of God to see if it's really from the Lord and then he says this the same chapter where he says Satan masquerades himself as an angel of light he's rebuking the church in Corinth whom he calls brothers and he says if you if if someone comes to you preaching a gospel other than the gospel you received from us or bringing a spirit other than the spirit you receive from us you put up with it he's basically saying why do you put up with another spirit you brothers right and so you have these Christians who are going to these conferences some of these Christians are even on the stage and they're bringing another spirit right because you can be able you can be saved and still oppressed right yeah just like I can be saved and be oppressed by a spirit of lust yeah a spirit of anger guess what you can be saved and be oppressed by a spirit of the imitation Holy Spirit because you have some sin of divination or sorcery in your life or you're inviting angels or some sin of idolatry in your life where your desire for making Jesus Lord is usurped by your disorder the desire to have some kind of spiritual power or spiritual ability that you can flash before people now other spirits are creeping in because you're not really after Jesus you're after something else and there's a principality over that something else it's in Ephesians Paul talks about don't let Satan get a foot hole through anger that's a New Living Translation but it's he's talking about these foot holes that's right long holds that's right so as a believer there could be these photos it's what we allow into our life like if you're you know you're talking a lot of heavy stuff right now just for the listeners like if you're if you're a Christian and you're watching porn every night Satan has you're being oppressed you're being oppressed by its to pornography and that that is demonic yeah I could tell you that right now it is demonic and you're allowing Satan to have this foot hole and you're being oppressed I was talking to a kid I've talked about this on a previous show but he was getting suicidal I want to kill his parents and the whole thing well it turns out he was into pornography and all the stuff and why would he was a Christian he can't he grew up in the church Paul said now he wants to kill himself he wants to kill his parents when we looked into it he was heavily into pornography mm-hmm why pray he came in depressed I pray to them lay my hands on him right there and I ask God to just touch his life and heal him and film with the spirit and literally his countenance changed instantly amen he repented amen and now he's doing great that's right he was literally running around the place having a great time after and this kid was they didn't want to leave his house before that's right so so yeah that's you can be oppressed big time not possessed but you be oppressed that's right Bible says purify your hearts you double-minded yeah so having an impure heart having impure motives or intentions in our walk with God where we want to have Jesus + sin where we were we want to have Jesus but I also want all this cool like I don't know fire stuff like this weird Christian stuff that's not really Christian it's more like magic it's more like Jesus magician ship mystic mystic stuff yeah Christian mystic stuff I don't know Don Crowder I think it's another guy who token the Holy Ghost oh my gosh do you that guy yeah yeah so I there I want I want this weird version of Christianity I don't want just Jesus and them in the Bible and my walk with him I want something else right so that's impure and our intentions its divided right it's like strange fire all it's like all this attention on yourself right that's right yeah it's about you and it's about your supernatural experience that you can receive from God it's not about how can I please the Lord's heart it's not how can I know him more and be known by him more it's what can I use his name to get from him right now and just like we can have physical sense psychological sense we can have spiritual sentence and that's precisely the area I came out of and that's why I can walk into a church I can tell when there's another spirit there when there's a minister preaching I can tell what spirit he's under if there's something else going on there and that's because I just came out of each I came out it I've seen I've felt a lot of spirits right and so purify your hearts you double-minded in a double minded man he's unstable in all his ways so all it takes a lot for people to get right back on their walk with God they don't realize how much just allowing that little bit of sinning and being complacent with that will cause everything else in them to be unstable because now they're in a double-minded state right okay hold that thought this shows epic we got a minute till the break I want to plug a couple things and then we're gonna go back to that strange fire we're gonna talk about angels and all kinds of other stuff so check it out to hear more to get the book the second coming of the New Age by Stephen bad cars get it Barnes and Noble and where else Amazon and you're on you're on Instagram and and you have your website and all that stuff yeah but it's a big fat book a lot of chapters it's I just got my copy signed it's on and cracking I'm gonna start reading it you know I always love when you're on the show it's always epic the content is always amazing I'm getting really fired up on the show because I've been wanted to talk to someone about this and I'd even know you came out of that that whole scene right this show is lit right now we've been talking about all kinds of crazy stuff we were talking about the Kundalini spirits some of you guys have seen that stuff on YouTube what's happening in a lot of the really crazy charismatic movement and I'm not talking trash on the charismatic movement but there is a wild side there's a wild side to all different kinds of Christianity and right now we're just Steven ban cars he he came out of that movement out of New Age he has a book called the second coming of the New Age so really quick go to the whosoever's calm down load the whosoever's out we got all the past radio shows oh we're out the break all right I'll see you guys in two minutes more live with Ryan race coming up 180 days five six 460 173 or post your questions using the hashtag live Ryan riess on his Instagram Twitter or Facebook I think I speak for the entire administration when I say [Music] you now back to live with Ryan Ruiz talked to someone about this and I don't even know you came out of that that whole scene right this show is lit right now we've been talking about all kinds of crazy stuff we were talking about the Kundalini spirits some of you guys have seen that stuff on YouTube what's happening in a lot of the really crazy charismatic movement and I'm not talking trash on the charismatic movement but there is a wild side there's a wild side to all different kinds of Christianity right now we're just Steven ban cars he he came out of that movement out of New Age he has a book called the second coming of the New Age i hears that since this is a video you could see it right here zoom in get it going but before we went to the break Steven we were talking about the strange fire and you know you you said you've been at these events and you're seeing the difference between people that want God and the Holy Spirit feeling them and coming upon them and that's that's an amazing that's biblical versus what's not biblical what you've been what you've been seeing right when I first got saved I was in a Pentecostal church Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada Church where you can't even become a lead pastor an ordained pastor unless you can evidence that you speak in tongues doesn't mean they think that you can't be saved unless you speak in tongues but in order to be Hastur so the the church there I'm telling you the amount of times I encountered God the pastor at that church his heart for God just pure Jesus pure Jesus so I was so blessed the amount of altar calls the amount of times I had people lay hands I mean to pray for me yeah for breakthrough the amount of times I encountered God there I'm telling you man I encountered God in that church and so when I got when when I started to travel more and I started to explore other areas of Christianity my test well III hide encounter God so many times I knew when it was God in a corporate setting and when it was something else mixed in there another spirit present there was another spirit masquerading as God and Satan that's not the Lord there's something that's not the Lord there's something there and it's important for people to get alone with God and develop their own relationship with him so that they did so that they have as it says in Hebrews their sense is trained to discern good from evil so when they go into the church their pastor's not doing the discerning for them they have their own relationship with God they have their own discernment now the question is well how do you how do you tell for me personally I don't believe we need anything more than the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit yep right everything that and I believe that everything that God wants to make available to me I believe he will make it available to me available to meet in his timing as I press up press into intimacy with him now there's varying degrees of intimacy I can be closer to God or I can be farther away from God if I'm closer to God there's gonna be more of his presence his manifest presence his power his manifest power present in me and upon me and that's what I want yes but what what's going on in circles that concern me is every service every conference it's an impartation fest where it's not just Father Son Holy Spirit what what new substance can you receive from this man who apparently has power from God to give you a substance whether that substance is fire whether it's oil we'll talk about impartation for angelic encounter impartation for spirit travel impartation / impartation to navigate the ascension realms or the glory realms and what happened was is like you said I did come out of this because I was like I want to explore this and I'm see a burn so God's telling me no but I'm like okay here I thought I'll just go through it if it ends up not being God I'll just cast the demon out of myself I'll be good it almost dude it shipwrecked me for I was carrying symptoms for about a week and a half two weeks until I fell at the feet of the Lord again and cried again and was like God I repent for idolatry I just want you and I was listening to this really old because you're not seeking guys you're seeking all this other stuff yes I'm using his name as a spring I'm prostituting the name of Jesus right to get what I really want which is not him it's something for my own spiritual satisfaction I want to feel empowered I don't if you like I have these super natural abilities yeah right and I want to feel like when I lay my hands on people people who you know I want to be a spiritual authority to them yeah right and it's about what you see on stage right it's idolatry itself idolatry it taps into sorcery at times I believe as well and so I listen to a really old Hillsong song that they wrote back in like 2010 and it was like it was just this purity of spirit that was there I listened to it it was just such a simple worship song where the Spirit of the Lord is there's freedom and I was like that's it I just need the Lord I just need the Lord in his spirit it's like God I'm sorry I haven't been pursuing you and a good a good litmus test for whether or not we should be sitting under somebody is what is their opinion on discipleship how much do they emphasize discipleship growing in holiness growing in righteousness growing in our knowledge of God our knowledge and understanding of the Word of God or is it like some of these preachers that we talked about like Todd Bentley for example every single service is fresh by your fresh anointing there's gonna be Mantle's falling on people everyone's like whoo that sounds interesting well guess what you're you're an idolatress that's just like me wanting to go to a New Age festival and hearing that there's this spirit that's gonna be there and we're gonna have a an angel invocation session and so what happened was is I got out of we're gonna talk about angels after about that whole thing okay we'll go into angels and we go angels now oh yeah so it's so how's about this this angel what it what is this stuff yeah so first of all mom there's not a single instance in all of Scripture of any anybody ever invoking or inviting an angel into their life ever trying to be in relationship to an angel right ever trying to cooperate with an angel in their walk not a single time right now the Bible says God sends ministering spirits Yeah right but who's doing the sending God I'm not calling on them and if it's really an angel I'm calling him you're not calling any angels right and and the angel should know its rightful place where it won't go unless God sends it so if I'm calling on an angel and something shows up it's not an angel angels not going to disobey it's a throne authority structure for my pitiful prayer idolatrous prep prayer so if it something shows up and I'm trying to invite angels into my life what is it that's showing up how do I know it's not a masquerading spirit you know Satan can ask creative himself as an angel of light there's a whole principality of Angels of Light it's not just one being right and so people are getting involved and trying to cooperate with angels there's this guy Joshua Mills who talks about you know there's all these different realms there's the Ascension realms there's realms of angelic encounter and I was listening to this guy talk about how like there's angels turning doorknobs in his house and and turning off lights in his house oh boy I I know that yeah yeah and those aren't those angels aren't what good angel no and he and here's the thing is the the guy who wrote the foreword for my book book he's a Bible scholar very very distinguished Bible scholar he is he seems dr. Michael Heizer okay and he just released a new book called angels and on my youtube channel I sat down with him and we did a whole video called hypercars mania angels and false teaching I need to watch this yes where I sat down with sat down with him and I explained to him everything I experienced I'm asking him questions about what this the Bible really say about angels cuz you hear about certain services where angel wings just pop in to the natural and appear and it's like it looks like a Falcon wing or something it's like a small thing angel wings are popping into the natural because there's the supernatural is just so present there he's like angels don't have wings he's like there's not a single text in all of Scripture saying that angels have wings now Seraphim have wings and cherubim have wings those aren't angels right there's different categories of the heavenly host angel is just one of like four or five spirit beings that are in heaven he's like as far as angels go angels are commissioned by God they have a very specific purpose they show up for a short time they deliver a message what the the word angel means messenger so there they go they give a message they leave that's what happens every single time in Scripture every single encounter by an angel is a mess for messaging so what are these guys saying that these angels like why would you want to hang out with angels or what's the purpose of it one guy it sounded like he was boasting in the fact that he hangs out with angels angels hanging out his room kind of thing like you're not hanging out with the angels like it's some kind of sign of like spiritual superiority on other one was I I think that people so we have to keep in mind too that sometimes these teachers are well-intentioned victims themselves yeah maybe all that's all they've known is this weird version of Christianity here's how I know that so I I was in contact with someone who is in a circuit who people often associate with weird spiritual stuff and I don't need to name-drop and name churches and stuff yeah but there's a church that is known for being pretty suspect and I've been in contact and have been with with a person who was a pastor there and still speaks there he's in this he's in a circuit a charismatic circuit and we ended up talking on FaceTime for six hours because he heard me name drop on YouTube and stuff he's like hey I want to make myself available you got any questions about these people they're my buddies you know yeah this about the church all the inter question for you we had six hours to talk this guy loves God he loves the Word of God he's got a heart for evangelism right we have disagreements about things there's things that I think are off based he's like sometimes yeah but sometimes no right and but the point is is that he knew the individual who I was listening to who ended up I didn't know and I felt demon oppressed through his ministry and he told him I'm talking to a guy right now who feels like he encountered something demonic through your ministry this guy reaches out to me he's like hey I'm so so sorry he's like the fact that you encountered anything harmful or demonic coming through yeah my teaching he's like I'm an open book he's like if there's anything you can tell me to help me in my walk with God he's like I'm still learning if there's anything off in my theology if there's anything off in my in my and my doctrine here's my number call me anytime let's have a chat let's talk about it he's like if you ever want to hang out and meet in person I'll I'll fly you out to my to my place we can we can hang out and he's like I appreciate your work love what you're doing you know you're the real deal thanks for your ministry and I was that softened my heart doesn't mean he's right yeah doesn't mean that what he's doing is safe or teaching is safe right but and neither does it from from the Bethel guy right but there's a sincerity there and sometimes even a purity of intention now so that's tricky because that means that sincerity and one's walk with God and purity of an intention that that still isn't safe necessarily doesn't necessarily protect thus from spiritual oppression right so what does our litmus litmus test is gonna be the Word of God right that's gonna be are we emphasizing what Jesus emphasized in correct ratios are we emphasizing what Paul emphasized in correct ratios understand yeah so Paul does say this he does say be filled with the spirit and he does say earnestly desire the higher gifts those are two verses how many verses does he talk about repentance how many talks does he talk how many times do you talk about growing in righteousness you know read Romans 12 the true marks of a Christian the end of Romans 12 they're verses about loving people right growing in grace right growing in godly character godly characteristic try being conformed to the image of Jesus right a walk with God that issues from a purity of heart and a clean conscience right the teaching about the faith that corresponds with godliness all these passages right so there's a few verses about the supernatural there's hundreds about discipleship and if people want to know you know it's not just a matter of looking at a verse or two to see yeah that's in the right context it's overall what are they emphasizing because you can make an idol out of anything right you can make an idol out of the spiritual in the name of Jesus as we've been talking about and that's where everything will start to go haywire because what happens when your desire for that exceeds your desire to please Christ and be a faithful disciple to Christ God is under no obligation when you start sowing to the flesh in that area right because it the flesh doesn't just be natural source reads the work of the flesh Galatians 5:19 sorcery is implicitly in definitionally supernatural part of the flesh but it's a work of the flesh nature yep right so the supernatural can be the desire for the supernatural it's also part of my flesh nature insofar as I want power right I want ability I want to feel special and important because of what I'm packing right if you start seeking after that that's where you can fall into problems as I did and I went to one of these conferences myself and and okay before you get to that conference and a lot of people kid once you start digging into the Word of God and seeing and you reading the gospel and you're seeing what these disciples that everyone's doing and you're growing in your relationship with your God with God and you're seeing wow there's so much power in this relationship of God then you're like I want to go deeper I want more and then that's when it becomes an idol here's how you get more though yeah you don't get more through enacting your will and yelling louder yeah you get more through surrender more surrender more power through surrender the more you release yourself and your life the more you release your right to yourself your right to your thoughts your right to your opinion your right to your lifestyle that's when you get more of God it's not just fervency fervency plays a part don't get me wrong right Jesus gives the parable of the man who comes and asked for bread and I'm not getting up to give you bread but because he keeps asking is believin bread right fervency is important but if you start if you start pursuing fervency without righteousness if righteous this is not your foundation Bible says God gives the Holy Spirit to those who obey Him you want a greater measure of faith it's not gonna be just works or just fervency you got to cover your bases all these things make up a relationship with God right if you're over emphasizing just works you're gonna have a dead faith if you're over sizing over overemphasizing just the spiritual you're gonna have an unbalanced walk with God you can get into really weird weird waters as I did so weird waters out here at this conference now I'm at this conference and it's a conference where I wanted it was basically to train people in the supernatural in the gifts and for me I'm like you know I'd loved some of the speaker's there and I just wanted to receive of the Lord and in worship there unlike everyone sprawled out people are a thousand 1500 people all under knee is worshiping to some of my favorite worship songs I'm encountering the Lord powerfully he's speaking to me he's giving me breakthrough an inner healing areas of my heart that have been broken and I'm just encountering the Lord mightily right and he's doing that for my good in spite of what's going on there mmm God's not gonna fully disclose every single thing that's wrong with every church and every teacher to you as a new believer he has other priorities yeah he's gonna develop you and your walk with him and he's gonna meet you there in spite of what's going on that church later on he might give you that discernment right but there's like there's a reason why there's a lot of false churches or suspect churches but there's a lot of well-intentioned you know young believers in there who are still receiving ministry right when that discernment comes later on you won't be able to stay in a church like that forever 10 15 20 years if you can there's something wrong with your walk with God but it's for a season and and my season I'm like God I'm so excited I just want to encounter you God in the secret place I want as much of you as I can get right and so it we reach this point where at the end they were doing a fire tunnel where everyone's walking through and there's gonna be people lined up on both sides what was their weird stuff going on I mean sorry what was their weird stuff going on during worship not not not during worship but there was weird stuff mmm what made me upset was this is that we would go out onto the streets after they would encourage us to go lay hands on people to pray for healing yeah and everyone in there if they don't know the gospel they don't know the basics of the Christian faith right they don't know the essential tenants that have defined Christianity for the last 2,000 years they don't know why they believe what they believe they don't even know what they believe all they know is Jesus is great and I got to go lay hands on people so they get so they're not sick anymore and if I have enough faith they tell me they'll get healed it's like is that it is that yeah woe unto me if I don't preach the gospel can train the people in the gospel right God's people perish for lack of knowledge anyway so we're all going out there and they're training people is supernatural but there's no biblical substance and so that bother mean there was one exercise they did where you're gonna try and get prophetic words for one another basically we're gonna experiment and try and get words of knowledge for one another go find a partner you know divvy up half and half on each side of the room and you're gonna try and you're gonna find someone and you're gonna try and get a word of knowledge for each other and you're gonna lay hands on each other and you're gonna try and hear from God you're gonna wait to you from God and I had someone here from God for me and I thought I heard from God from him and I was like wow you know that's that's crazy but that God honors faith without faith it's impossible to please God right but me hearing from God there and God ministered to me I had someone who didn't know me come up to me and say like you're you're you're powerful influencer and you have to be careful what you're doing in your private life what you're listening to what you're watching because other people are gonna see that and they're gonna look to you as an example they're going to think if Steve's doing that I can do that too I was like wow okay great on for him I felt like I don't know why this was coming to me I was like he's a father father father okay he has children okay three year old son three three he has a son who's three years old I'm not trying to think of anything I'm just I'm just trying to hear from God right and he had a three-year-old son and I was like I didn't know what to do with it I was just like three old sensitive son I didn't hear what God want me to say about it yeah but so just because God is moving to you moving and speaking to you in these conference that doesn't justify the teachers doesn't justify everything right it's a mix of both yeah Satan wants a mix of both if it was just darkness it would look like the Church of Satan and nobody would be any Christians gonna stay away from that is this the subtle deception that's where he leads people astray it's a gradual process and so time to receive an impartation of fire going through a fire Thailand you have people laying hands on you to receive the baptism of fire and I had someone lay their hands on my forehead to receive the baptism of fire and I felt like this buzzing in my head like I was gonna pass out and I was wuzzy and I felt drunk and dizzy and people are getting carried off like they're like crippled and their eyes are squinted like they're in pain this is apparently God there's people there meditating and people like sprawled out everywhere and people are like there's but one woman like shaking her head back and forth like crazy and it's not soundness of mind it's not the spirit I like I said my standard is a scripture right okay so compare the scripture to what II just experienced at that thing right well if we read what the Bible talks about you know he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire I would encourage on the Baptist says this in the book of John I would encourage people to go look at that context because then he talks about what Jesus is going to do to his threshing floor and he likens those who are unsaved he's gonna separate the wheat from the chaff right and the chaff he's gonna burn with unquenchable fire and so there's two prominent understanding of what the Baptist baptism of fire means one is it's a baptism of judgment for unbelievers right yep there's Tom the other one would be this is a baptism of fire that's referring to what happened to Pentecost where the Spirit of God descended on people like flames of fire right it doesn't say it was flames of fire like flames of fire right it's a it's a simile and so those are the two primary understandings now there's a third understanding which is that you have the Holy Spirit but then there's some kind of substance of fire that's like a fourth trinity component that God wants to give you himself Jesus the spirit and fire now yeah and there's also another valid way which the Bible says that you know fire is used kind of an analogy or sorry as a metaphor in the Old Testament for passion passion for ministry like you have a fire for God but then there's this other thing which is fires of substance and you need the baptism of fire where it's gonna make you freaked out it's gonna make you crawl on the floor it's gonna make you scream and shout it's gonna make you roll I've heard one person in this movement talk about how she was screaming because she thought she was gonna die and she thought the lights above her were burning her and we're gonna scorch her huh and she's rolling on the ground and her arms are flailing and she's been she was doing this for like 30 minutes feeling like burning sensation and wow that's that's normal in these circuits and people think you know that's just the baptism of fire God is doing a work with baptism of fire God is doing a mighty work and you see it nowhere in the Bible no you see that nowhere in the Bible nowhere in church history nowhere in Scripture and so what is this because they're using the name of Jesus but there's something else getting mixed in we have five minutes left so yeah but keep going yes okay so to me I think the best way to parse this is yeah let's look at the church in Corinth right they were accused of incorporating another spirit even though they name the name of Christ even though he affirmed some of them as being brothers but people need to at the big thing that I learned is I need to be content with just Jesus he's either the sole affection of my heart or he isn't right it's either Jesus or it's something else maybe it's a desire I have to be noticed or recognize maybe that it's greater than Jesus maybe my desire to have you know in this case spiritual power spiritual superiority over other Christians or over people in my life maybe that's my the sole affection of my heart right and well we know when Jesus is the sole affection of our hearts when obedience to him and honoring him with our lives with our speech Paul tells Timothy to be an example in purity and speech and and conduct star that we can represent him and be closer to him and when that is our emphasis that's when we know that's what we know we're under the protective covering of the Father when our greatest thing our greatest thing is to know God to be known by God and to make him known to please his heart right if I'm trying to please the heart of the Lord in everything I do whether I receive an experience from him or not that goes a long way with him right god I'm gonna honor you right now I know I'm in a dry season I know I might be struggling in some areas your word says this so I'm gonna try to apply this to my life even if I don't feel like it why because you tell me to deny myself and you say whoever seeks to keep his life will lose whatever loses his life for my sake will fight find it I end it and you also tell me Lord that unless I deny myself daily and take up my cross I cannot be a disciple right that here's what here's what a lot of you know people in this circuit Pentecostals caromed charismatic full pointed Bible says we overcome the devil by the word of our testimony but what's the second part of that talks about those in the same verse those who loved not their own lives even unto death am I willing to surrender my whole life to pleased and honored Jesus or am i interested in using Jesus to get what I want Yeah right in which case that's evidence your Lord of your life he's not Lord of your life yet anytime that I need a reason to obey Jesus it's evidence that I'm Lord and he's not and if he's not he's under no obligation in his word to protect me if I'm going to allow myself to be self deceived and chase after another spirit or chase after lust or chased after whatever it is right he's gonna protect us he will but his grace is going to only protect us if we are not involved in willful sin right and if we're involved in unconscious in an intentional sin if we're one of his he'll eventually lead us out and draw us out and that's what daily we have to keep asking them every day just say God I don't have it figure it out I can't wrap my head around everything I need you to reveal yourself to me if I'm not in the right place I always tell God God if I'm not doing the right thing like shut it down shut the doors like just move me sometimes I can't figure it out because you know the human brain you're trying to figure out all these different things about God want you but you got to ask him daily and that's where you come to the cross daily God forgive me for my sins I give my life to you I want to please you only and then everything will follow exactly and I believe that you know what people are really looking for is a spiritual experience with Christ yeah that's what we're all looking for is a spiritual relationship right not just a one-off experience we're looking for a satisfying relationship right and Jesus offers that to us he says that whoever believes in Me it is written out of his belly will flow rivers of living water there's right jesus promises us that i'm gonna satisfy you and you're gonna be in relationship with me and you're made for that we're made to be in relationship with god that's where we're made to find our acceptance and security our love i'm gonna end it there awesome cuz this is the end on an amazing show awesome Steve and bad cars get the book I'll talk to you guys next week [Music] [Applause] [Music] this has been live with Ryan race to connect or find out more about Ryan click on Ryan - Rhys comm check us out next Saturday at 9:00 p.m. for live with Ryan Reese

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Published: Mon Nov 25 2019