Stephen A. has Dan Orlovsky IN DISBELIEF over his 49ers & Eagles take 🍿 | First Take

the ners are the best team in football regardless of conference go debate in a cave with your Echo that Line's actually funny don't care what quarterback has played the best or who's the MVP the 49ers are the best team and it isn't close that tweets from last night yesterday afternoon yesterday afternoon yeah weird it's been the case since September no but you better late to the bandwagon but it's cool Shannon uh Dan I'll start with you are you surprised the ners dominated the Eagles like that no not at all uh set it on NFL live I thought the game thank you set it on NFL live I thought the game would get out of hand like that because no I don't feel that's a nice top go ahead it's great season on game would get out of hand one strength versus weakness San Francisco strength stressing teams with formations and motions and attacking middle of the field very much so weakness of Philadelphia Philadelphia's secondary has struggled all season long the middle of the field defense struggled all season long so strength versus weakness number one number two Philadelphia is coming off of playing 92 snaps on last Sunday's game versus Buffalo 10 days of rest for San Francisco and third probably the mo biggest thing like San Francisco is most talented roster San Francisco is the best roster and best coach team in football last year the NFC title game was what it was because of the injury that's why there's so much bad blood between these teams cuz they know Philadelphia knows that as good of a football team as they are San Francisco is a more talented roster and the NFC Championship wasn't one of those games where there was a real measuring stick you know what I'm saying so um I was not surprised given the context of how the season had been going when San Francisco is healthy that's the best roster and it's the best coach team in the NFL I was surprised that they dominated I'm not surprised they won had they won by seven to 10 points I was like okay but that explains why you know the 49ers are a very good team they got Debo they got all their guys back but when you this is now this is the second time against two of the top five teams in the NFC they've dropped 42 on them once on the road once at home so what was the excuse for Dallas Dallas had the seven days rest now see had the had the Eagles won we wouldn't even mention they had 13 three games in 13 days they could have took three weeks off they can play in January after not playing since they played yesterday they can't beat the if the 49ers played their best if every team in the NFL played their best football can't no one see the 49ers I am shocked that they dump 42 six straight possessions they score touchdowns not field goals touchdowns and when you put the ball in Debo hands he's taking five yard routes hitting his head on the goal post they're blocking Jennings they're so great run after the catch Christian mcaffry is running dominating the the football game running the ball like you said K Shanahan does a great job with formations he got does a great job with uh uh play calling but Brock P Brock p right now it's a two man race for the MVP it's Brock py andc Dak Prescott and if you put Brock py because he dominated Jaylen Herz with his team did and he played Sensational head tohe head I won't fault you but right now it's a two-man race Dak Prescott and Brock py are your MVP front run several headlines to walk away from this with okay because I don't disagree with anything that y'all said but there a few it's a few things that we need to point out number one as you just highlighted it's a two- horse race in the NFC anyway with the MVP Jaylen Herz Fells fell off it's about Brock py and Dak Prescott just props WIS du that's number one number two um this cat Steve wils defens coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers you know the one that that that that that that car Dave teer and Carolina decided to get rid of and whatever uh can we take a moment to give him some love this is a top rated defense you're talking about Swift gamewell and Scott they rushed for 20 yards on nine carries yesterday 20 yard they had I think that's a more of a Philly thing than it's been a problem all year running football I understand it's been a problem all year but we've seen Swift do some things we've seen gamewell do some effectively I said 20 yard on nine carries I didn't sit up there and say they weren't effective I said they were non-existent so you got that going on and obviously they bum rushed and they was they was they just punch Philadelphia in the mouth scoring on six straight offensive possessions you got to give Kyle Shanahan credit with creditors do as well Philadelphia had an opportunity to execute in the Red Zone they didn't do so they only came away with two field goals found themselves in a hole I'm thinking walking into this situation okay Brock pie in terms of when you're tied or when you're trailing he's at is worse they'd probably put him in a hole and see what he could do to get himself out of that they weren't able to do that yesterday San Francisco is clearly the best team in football I don't think anybody can deny that I don't think anybody can deny that P's an MVP candidate I don't think anybody can we're gonna get to that we're g to get the favorite we can get to all of that but in the end here's here's what I walked away with as well I'm gonna say it because it needs to be said where you that the kind of Beatdown that took place yesterday one could argue it delegitimize the Philadelphia Eagles as NFC champions because four quarterbacks last year four quarterbacks let me finish four quarterbacks go down four you have you seen that in NFL history Dan no sir four quarterbacks for one team go down in the same year right all right they had no quarterback behind center after from the second quarter on in an NFC Championship game yes sir what I'm bringing up is that Debo Samuel comes on first take during Super Bowl and privately off the a he's pretty ticked off cuz he's like you know we should be here obviously obvious emotion I'm not revealing anything that he hasn't said to anybody else but he said that on first take Super Bowl week in Arizona last year right then we come in and we're looking forward to this what are we looking forward to watching San Francisco coming into the game yesterday they've been talking about how we should have been the ones that were there not y'all yes showed up talked trash um Philadelphia you got you you got got Ser he's sitting up talking junk he's going sit up there and showed his his team film with what San Francisco saying about him they come onto the field walk right through Midfield right past the Eagles just shoving them aside like y'all letting them know we are here to kick your ass yeah okay and then promptly went out and kick the ass so what I'm saying to you is that it's the same team without their quarterback it's the same team this before green law got ejected it's still Debo it's still KD it's still mcaffrey it's still it it still wanted you valid point but injuries are a part of the game I I understand injuries I'm just talking about their mentality you guys played I'm saying their mentality was we should have been there they each other I'm listen well I understand but we should have been there we had no quarterback we went behind April but when we got our ducks in order what y'all going to do told you coming into the game and then promptly went out there and whipped your living you know what I'm sorry that brings in the question all right who would have been there Kansas City ain't San Francisco not that San Francisco team we've been looking that won the Super Bowl last year I'm just listen come on man we know we talk about the greatness of Patrick Mahomes and what you had in place compared to what he's got now the receivers he's got thrown he's trying to say they might not have got there I don't think there's a massive debate over that well that's all I'm saying why you arguing about but you're talking about it like there there was no shot they would have made it or the Super Bowl performance has to matter no I'm saying you forget the Super Bowl I'm talking about the NFC the NFC championship game with that team they just wi again that did not have so you predicted this Friday on NFL live how why you you you saw 4219 yeah I thought it would get because the again Philadelphia has played a gauntlet I don't believe Philadelphia has played well they've been clutch but they have not played well their offensive line has not been nearly pressure 25 times that's the most in his career you literally just took Words Their offensive line has not been nearly as dominant as it was last year and so we we have to be honest again the strength versus the weakness thing like that's a very valid thing the the amount of snaps that they had played San Francisco's coming off 10 days rest but I do not believe and I love Philadelphia they're a very good team I don't think last night's a fluke because of it I think it adds to it San Francisco is the best team my biggest takeaway honestly in this conversation MVP Rock pie yeah I think he Dak Prescott you look at the in the NFC well I I don't think I don't think that even in the AFC but but you I'm not ruling out give us your previous Tyreek Tyreek Tyreek has numbers but I think the thing is are you going to the quarterback the quarterback throws for 5,000 yards are you going to give it to a receiver with 2,000 which may maybe maybe maybe that's the case can you give us your perspective on because I correct me or not your words Brock p is a replaceable game manager no no no no I don't think he's I don't think he's replaceable I think we of a system we we've seen guys play well in that system but not be Brock pry and it's count and that's that's no but see I believe that you can be be a good quarterback or great quarterback and not be elite we're just so quick to to attach that title Elite the dude played 15 games we need to see this over a period of time that's normally what we did day and you played the quarterback position you had to go years and do it consistently for they attached that title of elite now with social media a guy has one game he throws for 300 yard and three touchdowns he's Elite and that's not where I'm going but I will say this they both could have played on Sunday and then lined up again on Thursday and the 49ers beat the hell out of the Eagles there are just better you don't talk like they talk like Debo and those other guys talk and the Eagles heard what they said all season so you know I'm going be on my best behavior you know what the Eagles are going to be the 40 they knew what the 49 was going to be and to go in there and do a demolition job the Cowboys and the Eagles and and and you know 4210 4219 yeah it was a beat down I don't think philadel Philadelphia has the people on defense to match up with San Francisco now I don't think anybody does no you know what I'm saying like we we've talked about the NFC guys and we've said like it's the big three San Francisco Philly Dallas really it's the big one yeah it's are you concerned about them staying healthy because it feels like injuries San Francisco San Francisco that's what about it's a war of attrition I think you're concerned with everybody staying healthy now orinary their five cats are are are a little bit different than everybody else like Trent Williams his health is down the left side deos health health Paramount McCaffrey's Health Paramount so I don't know if I'm concerned they're just very topheavy yeah right they stress you no one stresses you like that they stress you vertically and horizontally because you start going in one way and then they flip the ball and here come Debo did you see those linebackers last night listen listen listen here's the deal we're looking at this Lop side of the fear we understand that San Francisco just looks better in the way they've been playing and the competition that they've beaten we got to give credit what credit is due the flip side to it is that the lack of rest Philadelphia had compared to San Francisco and obviously they got punked they got beat up yesterday and we we we don't expect that to happen again so now now it becomes the question well what would Brock pie do if he found himself in a deficit if Philadelphia was able to convert those Red Zone trips into a inad get 14 if you squeeze rock a littleit what would it be then now to me I'm just saying it's a legitimate question that others may ask but it doesn't take away from my point and that is this you did not I'm not talking about Brock py getting hurt I'm literally not hyperbolically I'm literally telling you as you well know they didn't not have a quarterback in the NFC Championship Game and their whole point was that team did not deserve to be there yet last year over us and then went out on the field and she told them beforehand Dan I'm coming to slap you upside your damn head and ain't a damn thing you going to do about it and told you weeks days in advance and then go on your home field all and do it right love and do it you're saying that's San Francisco's perspective I got to push back on something though can we stop with the well what happens if BR Brock py gets into a deficit like we we you guys continue to float that out there we talking well not just that not just that you have to stop that see you got to be consistent when you're talking about football not only do you break things down okay the way that you do but you also use numbers to buffer your points as well very few do it so why are you getting on us for doing it because we're looking I'm literally statistically it said coming into the game when the man is trailing or he is tied he is significantly worse than when he has a cushion how many many that's what they've said what's the percentage by the way Shannon Shannon pointed out Shannon pointed out just weeks ago accurately I might add what was he without Trent Williams and Debo he did point it out did you not point out he make it up we a't making it up there's a lot of quarterbacks that are going to perform less without their best offensive lineman one of the best in the NFL and then one of the best Playmakers in the they're going to be lesser as a player in a lesser performance how many in a clutch situation you know game on the line they're down you you trust him to make Tom Brady plays at at Cleveland drove him down the field when he did not play his best ball miss you trust him more than Dak Prescott in that situation not the Dak Prescott right now I can't say that and you know

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Published: Mon Dec 04 2023