Spin Doctors: Whatever Happened To the Band Behind 'Two Princes' & 'Little Miss Can't Be Wrong'

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Spin Doctors were known for their two huge hit  songs in the early 90’s ‘Two Princes’ and “little   miss can’t be wrong.’ Both singles were top  20 hits on the billboard hot 100 charts, But,   whatever happened to the group? That’s what  were going to discuss in today’s video. Born in Hawaii, frontman Chris Barron  would spend the early part of his   life growing up in Australia. His parents  would divorce with his father remarrying   and he would move Chris back to America with him  to Princeton, New Jersey. Barron would attend   high school in Princeton and by his own  admission was and i quote “a weird, freaked   out artist kid.” His early musical influences  would include Buddy Holly and Bob marley.   And attending the same high school would be  future blues traveler frontman john popper.   Popper played the part of older brother  to Barron and even wrestled against him. After graduating from high school barron would  spend a year studying poetry at Bennington College   a liberal arts school in Vermont. He would  eventually find his way to New York City   and study music at New School  of Jazz and Contemporary Music   while also bunking with John Popper  and playing solo shows around the city. Barron’s future bandmates in Spin Doctors would  hail from Canada and other parts of the states.   Guitarist Eric Schenkman, grew up in Toronto,  Canada coming from a musical family. He was   already an accomplished guitar player by the time  he was 10 and by the time he turned 21 he would   move to New York and study arts at New School.  Also attending new school was drummer Aaron Comess   who originally hailed from Dallas..While  the trio wouldn’t form a band just yet,   Barron and Schenkman would team up with John  Popper playing in the group Trucking Company.   But the group was short-lived as Popper soon  left to devote more time to his own band Blues   Traveler . This would lead to the remaining pair  of trucking company to up with Comess and this   would result in the birth of Spin Doctors.Barron  would reveal in the book Jamerica the common   thread between the members saying “we were alway  really interested in improvisational music.” The group would play the first show at a frat  house at Columbia University. It was following   that gig that the band decided to go all in with  Barron recalling to Rolling Stone “After that gig,   Eric got back to his house at 9:30 in the  morning,” “We carried his amp to the top of   the stairs. And he lived on the fifth floor.  When we got to the top, we just laid down on   the landing. Eric’s like ‘Look, man, this  is the way it is. Do you want to do this?’   And I just started laughing. It was 9:30 in the  morning. The sun was coming through the window.   And it was definitely gonna be work, but it was  real. So I was like “Yeah, man, let’s do it.” Bassist Mark White, wouldn’t join the band  until a few months after the band’s first gig.   By the time he auditioned he was working  in a mail room and was several years   older than the other members. He had  already played with Aaron Comess in   several other New City bands including  one called Spade. He would admit to the   Morning Call newspaper that he turned down  an opportunity to audition for Living Colour.   Spin Doctors would cut their teeth playing live  gigs in new york and the surrounding areas. All of it wouldn’t have been possible without  Barron’s dad who helped cosign a loan for an   econonline f-250 which shuttled the band’s  equipment to clubs and college campuses.   Barron would tell Diffuser “we just kept going  back. We were also a really good live act. We   would go to a new town and play for the  bartenders and servers and 3 or 4 people.   Then we’d go back and play for 15, the next time  we’d play for 45 people. By the third or fourth   time we’d pack it. Also helping build their live  audiences was word of mouth and bootleg tapes,   which they encouraged amongst their fans. Spin Doctors seemed to be initially labeled a jam  band frequently compared to groups like Phish,   The Grateful Dead with no two live shows  being alike and with fans taping their   shows. But at the same time Jam Bands weren’t  exactly tearing up MTV so it was a difficult   balancing act. The orlando sentinel described  Spin Doctors crowds in 1993 as being “tie-dyed   hippified audiences who also frequented Phish  and Blues Traveler concerts. But bassist Mark   White brushed off some of these comparisons  claiming he had never heard the grateful dead   until he joined the spin doctors and cited his  influences of Isaac Hayes and the Jackson 5.   The band gigged relentlessly playing 250  dates a year including playing the new york   club nightingale’s a whopping 57 times with White  recalling to the orlando sentinel “we had all the   people coming down night after night. There  was an endless supply of people coming down.   They would bring their friends and they would  bring their friends..We always had a crowd.” Epic Records head Richard Griffiths signed  the band after seeing the band play a show   at the Wetlands, a small new york city club.  The capacity of the venue is 300 people,   the night he witnessed the band playing  there were 600 people in attendance.   He would tell the chicago tribune how he found  something different about the band saying   “it wasn’t a rock audience, it wasn’t  punk, it was a different type of audience.   It looked like college kids. The next day  i told the manager i wanted to sign them.” Epic Records plan was to release a EP in early  1991. The original idea for the EP was to be a   studio effort consisting of the tracks Two Princes  and the combo of Shinbone Alley/Hard to Exist”   that would setup their future LP Pocketful of  Kryptonite that was scheduled later that summer.   Their plans would change though as Comess would  reveal according to Diffuser “we thought we’re   this live band and we have a great reputation  as a great live band so let’s put out a live EP   and hold off on more studio recording.” To capture their live EP the band recorded   a September 1990 show at the Wetlands Club  in Manhattan. It was a venue that the band   performed at frequently and it was a special  because they allowed bands to perform the   entire night. The band ended up renting a  mobile recording truck to capture that gig.  The band soon turned their attention to their  first full length studio Pocket Full of Kryptonite   enlisting the same producers who worked on their  EP. Barron would look back at the group’s first   LP telling diffuser "We didn't want to go in and  make some overproduced record. We wanted it to   represent who we were. And you can feel that:  The basic tracks are a live band on the floor.   We did some overdubs … but we didn't get carried  away with it at all. So when you hear the record,   it just sounds like a four-piece band." “We were this really weird jam band who   happened to have great songs,”. “And a couple  of our songs were so great they ended up being   hits. ‘Two Princes’ wasn’t a hit when we  wrote it. It was just a really good song   that made your girlfriend want to bone you.” According to Comess who wrote in the liner notes   in the 2011 anniversary edition of pocket  full of kryptonite “at the time that they   made a demo of it (referring to two princes). “We  consciously made a decision to slow the tempo down   and let the groove fatten up [on  the album version]. I honestly   think if we hadn’t made those changes, it  wouldn’t have been the hit that it was.”  Also appearing on the album was longtime  friend John Popper who played harmonica on   the track more than she knows and earned  a co-writing credit on hard to exist.  Released in August of 1991, the initial sales of  pocket full of kyrptonite were relatively small   moving around 60,000 copies by the end of the  year. Those sales came on the back of the band’s   live gigs. By the end of 1991 the label wanted  to leave the record behind and move forward.   They pushed the band to get off  the road and hit the studio again,   but the band refused to stay out on the road.  Barron would tell Diffuser “Sony who owned Epic,   was way more into Pearl jam and michael jackson  when we signed. We were the redheaded stepchild of   the label, even though we were signed personally  by the head of Epic Associated. We toured really   hard. They wanted us to come home and make a  record and we decided to stay out on the road. For the first part of their career The Spin  Doctors were living in the shadow of Blues   Traveler. The group frequently opened for Blues  Traveler and stole some of the group’s fanbase,   but at one point Spin Doctors  label even sought advice from   Blues Traveler’s label on how to break the band. It was a difficult existence for the band with  Barron recalling how the band put on brave face   telling Rolling Stone “A lot of the time  we hid from Epic how hard this stuff was,”   “We’d be like ‘We’re out in the van! It’s no  problem at all!’ We put up a front because   we wanted to be their badass band. But the  van was death, man. A slow form of death.” Frank Larocka who was instrumental  in signing the band from Epic Records   had some people at the company calling for  the band to get a makeover telling Rolling   Stone magazine “There have been some complaints,”  s ‘They don’t have any tattoos! They don’t have   any weird-colored hair!’ People said: ‘Try to  get them to dress up for Saturday Night Live. Despite the lack of album sales to their name,   the band members saw their audiences growing  and felt a buzz around the band by the new year.   As the buzz was growing the band tried to push  their label to release singles from the album   with Aaron Comess recalling to diffuser “i  remember specifically us saying. Why don’t you try   two princes or little miss can’t be wrong or jimmy  olsen blues. And their response was nah, those   aren’t hits. You guys don’t have enough tattoos or  it’s not grungy enough or whatever the crap was. “ The album took nearly a year to break. By the  summer of 1992 things finally started to shift   the band’s way.. Comess would tell diffuser  “A station in Vermont called WEQX — this guy   named Jim McGuinn, great guy — started playing  'Little Miss,' Comess remembered. “And it went   to No. 1 on the station. And he hand-wrote  a letter to the president of Epic, saying,   'You guys should really go after  this band. You'd be crazy if you   didn't. This is an incredible  reaction we're getting here.'  "That's what lit the fire. And then [Epic] put  it on rock radio; they made a video; they got   behind it. And then everything blew up, and of  course they were like, 'We knew it all along,'"  Of course the record label claimed this was  there plan all along. Grifftihs who signed   the band would tell the Chicago Tribune “rather  than bang radio over the head i made a decision   to pull back. So we made a video that we never  submitted to mtv and kept them out on the road.   Then a couple of radio stations in vermont  picked up the record and started playing   it to an incredible response..In all honesty i  thought it would take a lot longer than it did   for them to make it. I was only planning  on selling 50,000 copies of the album and   i would have been happy but the public spoke. He would go on to say. “There were only a few   believers in the company,”. “The Spin Doctors  couldn’t have been less trendy if they tried.   They had nothing to do with the Seattle thing,  and we were concentrating very much on Pearl Jam.   So I made a conscious decision not to  oversell them to everybody in the company.  The band soon landed a spot on Saturday Night Live  by the fall of 1992, they appeared on the howard   stern show and were featured in Rolling Stone. And  things only further blew up from there. Radio and   MTV started playing Two Princes and Little Miss  Can’t Be Wrong both of which became top 20 hits on   the pop charts and at the end of the day the band  sold six million copies of their debut record,   Epic added new tracks to the group’s first EP  and re-released it as well. The track Little   Miss Can’t Be Wrong would be written by Barron  in response to his stepmother who he referred   to as and i quote a “malignant narcissit” who  never believed in Barron’s career aspirations.   But Barron had some regrets with the band’s new  found fame at the time recalling to Rolling Stone: When I wrote ‘Little Miss Can’t Be Wrong,’ I never  dreamed it would be on hundreds of radio stations   several times a day. So then you get to thinking,  ‘Okay, what is a song like mis doing to people?’   One of the things I really admire about Bob  Dylan is that he wrote great pop songs that were   constructive. I don’t want to sing a song that  degrades people who are traditionally degraded.” Despite the band’s new found success some  markets were less than eager to embrace   the band.. Sometimes they’d play to theatres  packed with thousands of people, while other   times not many people would show up. Barron would  admit to the morning call “The stupidest place   we played was harpos in detroit, michigan. This  heavy metal place where they had these megadeth   videos and hundreds of people screamin. They  had a t-shirt and a wet willie contest before   we played with all these naked dudes on stage and  by the time we came on everyone had cleared out. In the summer of 1992 the spin doctors would  reconnect with John Popper as Blues Traveller   had put together a music festival that would  be inspired by Lollapalooza which debuted the   previous year. The tour would be known as the  HORDE festival, which stood for horizons of   rock developing everywhere other groups on  the bill include Phish, Widespread Panic,   The Samples and Aquarium Rescue Unit. And HORDE  would prove to be a success and would carry on   for the next seven years and it would also gave  the spin doctors a massive publicity boost. The Single Two Princes would be nominated for  a grammy and become the #1 rock single of 1993   outpacing other tracks by other mega artists  including Aerosmith’s Livin on the Edge,   Duran Duran’s Come Undone and  Nirvana’s Heart Shaped Box. Frontman Chris Barron became known for his clever  lyrics telling AXS Online in a 2018 interview   I work really hard on the lyrics. I slave over  them I practice the way a runner would run.   It doesn’t have to be clever necessarily.  It just has to be right. I always point at   the song Louie Louie. Nobody knows what  the f that guy is singing but it doesn’t   matter whatever he’s singing we know it’s the  right thing for him to be saying on that song. In addition to MTV and rock radio heavily playing  the band’s music hollywood came knocking as well.   Their cover of the song that’s the way i like  it was licensed for the space jam movie in 1995   and there song Two Princes was widely licensed  m even being featured in an episode of south   park in season 21 and the tv show sesame street.  Both two princes and little miss can’t be wrong   would also show up on the rock band video game  franchise as well . The band even contributed   theme songs for seasons 2 and 3 of the TV Show  spin city. But things seemed to slow down for   their 1994 sophomore record aptly titled turn it  upside down would The album was a modest success   selling a million copies. . The track you learn "You Let Your Heart Go Too Fast" was the most successful single off the  album, but it wouldn’t even be a top 40 hit,   while the album peaked at number 28 on the album  charts. The band would appear at woodstock 94   and the glastonbury festival the same year But the  stress of pushing hard over the last couple years   would cause friction in the group. On the eve of  a series of South American stadium dates opening   for the Rolling Stones, the band’s guitarist  Aaron Schenkman quit. Barron would tell the LA   Times “It was frightening at the time,”“It was a  really big wake-up call, it led to a lot of soul   searching and made me grow up a bit and not take  things for granted. It was an incredible lesson.”   Schenkman would tell the sagharborexpress I  felt like it had stopped being what I thought   it was,” he “so I just got off the train.” But  there were warning signs as Barron would tell   LA Times that the group’s second album was and  i quote “a painful album for me. It has a lot of   painful personal references to me. It’s hard for  me to be objective about it as a work of art.”   Under pressure from their label to write another  hit album the band initially threw out a whole set   of tapes and came up with another full of set of  songs, but it proved futile with Barron telling   the same publication“We weren’t communicating.  There wasn’t a dialogue going on,”. Thankfully   for the band they still made their tour  commitments but with a replacement guitarist.  The group soldiered on working on their third  album titled ‘You’ve Got To Believe in Something’   which came out in 1996..For the new record,  Barron shaved his beard and cut his hair as   it hadn’t been cut since publicity photos were  taken for the first album. It was partially   done in response to critics who prejudged  the band with Barron telling the Times  “I guess I was wondering if people would  still call me a hippie if I cut my hair off,   you know,”. “I never knew where the  hippie thing people kept saying came from.   And I felt it was from fashion. Also, I  really had to do a lot of soul searching   to find myself in the process of doing a  record. It starts with checking out my face.” By the time of the third album for the band  it was do or die. Retailers would take a wait   and see approach with the band but the record  label touted to billboard ahead of the album   coming out that the band still had an active  following on the internet and that while the   first album spoke to the mainstream, the group’s  second record spoke to their core audience.   The record label. The band also appeared on Howard  Stern’s radio show in 1995 ahead of Stern’s book   “Miss America’ and performed a song with the  same title even though it wasn’t on the record.   The label even procured videos from film students  for their music video “she used to be mine”   But the effort proved to be futile as the  group’s third album sold even fewer copies   than it’s predecessor and the band soon lost  their recording contract with Epic Records. This was a challenging time for the band with  plenty of highs and lows. In a 2002 interview   with MIT’s newspaper the Tech online Barron  talked about where the band was at in this   point in time saying “it’s more of a matter of  getting back into where we came from rather than   developing. We started out as this bar band this  nightclub type of band with this meteoric rise.   i think right now were sort of getting back  to rocking audiences as hard as possible   but he would also admit in the same interview that  he still loves singing the band’s biggest hit Two   Princes. Ahead of releasing their fourth album  Here Comes the Bridge in 1999, the band inked a   new new deal with Universal, but several weeks  ahead of the album coming out Barron lost his   voice due to a rare form of vocal chord paralysis.  The medical condition was so severe he was given   a 50/50 chance of being able to speak again let  along sing. Keyboardist Ivan Nevile would take   over singing duties for a few months But there  1999 tour would end up being scrapped anyways.   Barron’s voice would return in 2000 and he spent  his time without his voice writing new songs with   his old friends from Blues Traveller. And the spin  doctors would take a year off but the news that   the wetlands was closing to make room for a condo  development brought them back together. Schenkman   would rejoin the group during th This was the  place where they recorded their first EP and   they played a successful show on September 7, 2001  during the last week the club was open.Schenkman   would rejoin the group in 2001. The band would get  a bit of a boost when their 5th album nice talking   to me got radio play with the tracks can’t kick  the habit which was also featured on the movie   soundtrack for Grandma’s boy and the tracks  margarita and nice talking to me . From 2008   onwards the band resurfaced to play one off live  shows and the members explored other Projects.   In 2011 the band geared up for a & UK & US tour  to celebrate the 20th anniversary of their debut   record. . In 2013 they released their latest  and 6th studio album If the River Was Whisky.   A few years ago rolling stone magazine would  publish a readers poll of the worst 90’s bands   and the Spin Doctors took the number  8 spot, but surprisingly nirvana was
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Channel: Rock N' Roll True Stories
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Keywords: rock n' roll, rock, music, documentary, story, interview, the spin doctors, two princes, jimmy olsen's blues, little miss can't be wrong, pocket full of kryptonite, you have to believe in something, chris barron, john popper, blues traveller, eric schenkman, aaron comess, mark white
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Length: 16min 57sec (1017 seconds)
Published: Thu Dec 16 2021
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