Skid Row: The Rise & Fall Of The Band With Sebastian Bach - '18 & Life', 'I Remember You'

Video Statistics and Information

Video
Captions Word Cloud
Reddit Comments
Captions
The story of skid row began with founding members  bassist Rachel Bolan and guitarist Dave Snake Sabo   both the Frank Zappa film Baby Snakes,  and some strange body hair he possessed.  Sabo lived a few blocks away from jon bon jovi  who he was friends with growing up & It would be   that relationship that would be instrumental in  Skid row’s success with Sabo telling Loudersound   that the pair had made a pact when they were  only 7 years old to become rockstars with the   first person getting their promising to help  out the other. He would recall to loudersound   “It was obvious that Jon was gonna get there  first, but he said that when our band was right   he would go out on a limb for us,” “And he  was true to his word. Jon came to see us live,   critiqued us and provided the benefit of his  experience, which was invaluable he'd say.  Bolan and Sabo who came from the Jersey Shore; In  the mid eighties Sabo was working at the Garden   State Music Store when he met Bolan who came in  one day looking for some strings for his bass.   Sabo would recall to Rolling Stone “He used to  come in all the time, and he just had this aura,   or whatever you call it, about him.” in a  separate interview Sabo would tell Loudersound   I’ll never forget that moment. This guy  walked in wearing a red beret and a pink   leather jacket. He looked like a freakin’ star.  I just had to strike up a conversation he'd say. The pair hit it off, but Bolan was already  in a band at the time called Godsend, which   he had played in for about a year, a group that  also helped him develop his songwriting skills.   Soon enough, the pair joined forces in 1986 but  while you may think the band’s name Skid Row came   from the infamous neighbourhood in downtown los  angeles, it didn’t. Prior to calling themselves   skid row, bolan and sabo threw around some names  including Darkness after the Aerosmith song with   Sabo telling Rolling Stone “We thought up the  name when we were driving down the Garden State   Parkway, We were on our way to practice, trying  to think of what to call ourselves, and we saw   tire marks on the road from an accident. I think  I said, ‘Skid Marks,’ and Rachel said, ‘Skid Row.’   and thus the band's name was born. With a name in  tow both Bolan and Sabo would be bring different   and some similar musical influences to Skid Row. Bolan would tell Loudersound “When it came to   writing we very quickly realised that while we  both came from different musical backgrounds – me   from Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, while  Rachel’s roots are in The Ramones – our styles   complemented each other. It also helped that  Kiss and Van Halen were a common denominator.”  It didn’t take long for the pair to find bandmates  as they found guitarist Scotti Hill, a new york   transplant who had moved to Jersey to play in the  states music scene, while drummer Rob Affuso was   an NYU graduate whose resume included playing in  a Rush tribute band. Finding a frontman was a more   difficult task. The band would enlist singer Matt  Fallon who had previously played with Anthrax and   hit the club circuit around New Jersey, New York  and Connecticut It would be Sabo’s old friend Bon   Jovi who by 1986 was a big star, who got Skid Row  to open for 3 shows for his band while they were   playing some December shows in Pennsylvania. At  this time Fallon was still fronting the group and   Skid Row were still unsigned, but following the  gigs it became apparent something needed to change   with the band. Sabo would recall to Loudersound  what happened next saying “It was exciting playing   in front of 7,000 people, sold-out, with one of  my best buds as the headliner,” “Then Doc comes   into the dressing room and goes, ‘The band’s  great; the songs are great; but you need a   singer. He’s not the guy. He’s not a star.’”  McGee promised to sign the band in addition to   several major record labels sharing a similar  sentiment if they could find a new frontman.   Fallon was soon fired and the band would  undergo a 9 month search for a new singer.   Future MOtley Crue frontman John Corabi was  offered to audition for the band, but things   didn’t work out. It was during their search  for a new frontman the band would pen the hits   including “Youth Gone Wild”, “18 and Life” and “I  Remember You” that appear on their debut album.  The foursome soon grew so frustrated with the  search for a singer that they even formed a   short lived cover band named The Blows which  played Sex Pistols and Ramones cover tunes.   But their prayers would finally  be answered. Enter Sebastian Bach.  Born in the bahamas to an accomplished painter and  gallery owner father Sebastian Bach's birth name   was Sebastian Beirch as he was originally  named would spend his youth in California   and in eastern Canada. He would admit to rolling  stone he was and i quote a “straight-A bully”   at the private school he attended that was also  attended by Prince Andrew who he described in the   same interview as and i quote “a fing ahole. By  the eight grade, his father would admit Sebastian   started taking a liking to music, especially rock  n’ roll, but Bach would would butt heads over the   way to go about having a career in music with his  father thinking his son should attend juilliard,   but the future skid row frontman had other  thoughts. By the age of 15 he’d drop out of   school and move to Toronto, Canada and change  his last name to Bach. Standing six foot three   he looked a lot older than his age allowing him to  get into clubs and play with bands live including   the act Kid Wikked. A band whose members in some  instances were twice Bach’s age. Bach would soon   find himself performing at a wedding of a rock  photographer Mark Weiss and singing on stage   with members of Twisted SIster and Kevin  Dubrow of Quiet Riot as well as guitarist   Zakk Wylde . That wedding happened to be attended  by David Feld, who knew the guys in Skid Row. Feld   would eventually land a job working for Atlantic  Records, which Skid Row would eventually sign to.   I want to also note to you guys that in Sebastian  Bach’s Wikipedia fact or fiction he claimed it was   jon bon jovi’s parents who were in attendance  at the wedding and asked Bach to try out for   skid row. Rolling Stone magazine who profiled  the band in 1992 claimed it was David Feld who   discovered the singer and got him to audition  for the band so you guys can take your pick.  Either way skid row sent bach a tape featuring  a 4 song cassette of Skid Row demos that would   include 18 and Life and Youth Gone Wild  with Bach recalling to Loudersound   “I kept listening to the tape because I couldn’t  get those two songs out of my head,” “I said if   I could reinvent the melody lines – especially  in 18 And Life – and put in some Halford-esque   kind of notes, I could make this into something  that I would really be proud of" he'd remember  Bolan would tell Loudersound  his impressions of Bach saying  “He sang the songs so high that we had  to reign him in, but after some work   on his voice it all fell into place,”.  “Sebastian was very obnoxious and loud,   but we needed a singer. The good thing was that  he also had drive – and then some. But frontmen   were supposed to have spirit, right? he'd say After meeting bach at the airport the band went   to a rundown club named Mingles in South Amboy,  Jersey. Sabo would recall to Rolling Stone what   happened that night saying “That night we got  drunk and decided to jam,” “We had so much fun   onstage together. It was a mess, but it was  great. Then on the way out, we walked up the   stairs and somebody called Baz an expletive so  he just started swinging. We’d just met the guy,   and all of a sudden we’re in our first fistfight.  It was like instant bonding.” It would be Bach’s   personality was a blessing and a curse..  He was charismatic, but also unpredictable.   He would create headaches for the band in the  years that followed & ahead of signing with a   major label Skid Row would sign a publishing deal  with John Bon Jovi and Ritchie sambora’s company   Underground, something that would leave feelings  of bad blood in the years that followed. The deal   with Underground would result in a lot of their  publishing royalties going to theBon Jovi pair.   The band at one point came close to signing with  Guns N’ Roses and Aerosmith label Geffen Records.   Skid Row would end up playing a poor showcase  for Geffen with famed A&R man Tom Zutaut who   signed Guns N’ Roses and Motley Crue with  Sabo “One day Doc called and informed me we   had signed to Geffen,” “It was the day I’d been  waiting for my whole life, but I was dismayed.   This was the label that had told us we had maybe  two or three songs good enough for an album.   Tom had asked us where we rehearsed, and when I  told him he said: ‘Well you won’t be seeing me in   that garage’. I was amazed by his arrogance.  It was like Geffen were doing Doc a favour.”   THe band ended up signing with Atlantic Records  and recording their debut album which was self   titled with Alice Cooper/Dokken producer  Michael Wagener. The album would be recorded   in the resort town of Lake Geneva. Located  next to the studio was a convention center   where the band would track drums for their album . Their self titled debut record would be released   in 1989 and the band got some prime touring  spots spending half a year on the road opening   for Bon Jovi on their New Jersey tour, as well as  playing with Aerosmith. During their off days from   the tour the band even scheduled club shows to  hone their live shows and reach more fans. And   It didn’t take long for Skid Row’s debut album to  sell a million copies as it was propelled by the   success of three big singles including I remember  you, 18 and life, youth gone wild garnering a lot   of radio play and play on mtv. While the band had  a lot to celebrate Bach’s antics also created a   lot of problems for the band. In some respects  Skid Row soon became more recognized for the   antics of Sebastian Bach than their music. Bach would publicly blast Jon Bon Jovi,   who discovered the band at the cost of him  taking a large portion of their publishing.   Couple that with a hugely controversial t-shirt  that Sebastian Bach was photographed wearing   backstage. Add to that a december 1989 show  opening for Aerosmith when Bach was struck in   the head by a bottle thrown from the audience. He  ould hurl the bottle back into the crowd striking   an innocent young fan & it would result in Bach  being on probation for three years and being   sued by the family of the young fan with Bach  revealing to Rolling Stone in 1991 “I basically   gave them everything I’d earned,” I’ve done a  whole video on this event the link is down below.  Bolan would admit his frustration  with Bach telling Loudersound  “It used to bug the hell out of me when he said  things that Dee Snider, David Lee Roth and even   Paul Stanley had used before,” “It was so obvious.  As our career progressed, pretty much all the shit   that Sebastian said on stage became irritating.  He’d tell an audience what a song was about, but   it had nothing to do with the lyrics I’d written.  Unless I ignored it, I’d have walked off he'd say.  Tensions aside the band managed to release  their second album Slave to the Grind   in June of 1991. The album cover would be done by  Bach’s own father. The album made history becoming   the first hard rock album to debut at number 1  on the charts. The success of the album took Bach   by surprise who would admit to Rolling Stone “I  thought this album would enter the charts at like   Number 100, not Number One,” “I felt…strange,”  “I felt like I was walking a fin’ tightrope or   something.” Bach would hear the news that Skid Row  had knocked rap act NWA from the number one spot   ahead of playing an opening show for GUns  n’ ROses at the Spectrum in Philadelphia.  Dave Snake Sabo would tell Rolling Stone where  the band’s mind was at when they put out their   second album 1991’s Slave to the Grind saying “For us, it’s not just that we want to sell   another four million records. What we want  to do is stay around awhile, like Aerosmith.   We’d trade some sales for some respect,  because we’re serious about the music.”   Rachel Bolan would add in the same interview “We’d like to be like one of the incredibly   cool bands we grew up on, whether  it was the Sex Pistols or Kiss,   “We’d like to be great, you know?” The tour to support the album was only met   with more antics from Bach. During a summer 1991  show opening for Guns N’ Roses at Wembley Stadium.   It was at this gig that the Brent Council issued  a written warning to the band not to play the   song Get the F Out warning the band they could be  banned for life and could possibly face jail time.   Bach, going against the advice of his bandmates  read the Council’s letter on stage to nearly   100,000 fans. And a year later Skid Row were  headlining with Pantera and Soundgarden opening   in London Bach dropped his pants wiping  his butt with a copy of the Daily Star.   Add to the friction, escalating drug use amongst  the band members, it was no surprise that the band   was on their way to premature destruction. Bolan would recall to Louder Sound “We had   everything in front of us,” “It became a sore  point. To this day I tell people never to do   drugs, they’ll end up destroying themselves  or what they’re working towards.” By late   1992 the band would release a covers EP called  B Side Ourselves that would end up going gold.  The following year in 1993 Skid Row’s manager  would tell the band they should take a break   being quoted in spin magazine as saying  “wait for all this seattle shit to die down.”   Two years later the band would release their  third album 1995’s Subhuman Race. The band   would drop Michael Wagener deciding to work with  Metallcia producer Bob Rock. Musical tastes had   significantly changed by this point in time and  it can be heard on the album. The record failed   to achieve the success of the group’s first two  records only peaking at number 35 on the billboard   album charts. And Sabo would claim he was dealing  with writers block after the band got off the road   in 1993 telling Loudersound “When I came off  tour I couldn’t write a song to save my life.”   Tensions only escalated within the group as the  band didn’t enjoy working with Bob Rock and Bach   wanted a bigger role in song writing. With Sabo  telling Loudersound “I could understand his desire   to write songs,” “Rachel and I had been learning  our craft for eleven years. Sebastian could sing   18 And Life way better than I ever could, but  writing a song like that isn’t something you   can just snap your fingers and learn. When  that distinction got lost, that’s when the   real troubles began. The most interesting thing  about Sebastian’s ego was that it grew more and   more out of control the smaller the band became.” Spin magazine did a pretty great piece on Skid   Row and a number of other bands  on the state of metal in 1995.  The article would really shed light on how things  had changed for the band in just a few short   years. Despite the fact that they were opening  for van halen by 1995, Their touring crew was   limited to just 7 people, all of which slept  on the same tour bus as the band. One of the   band members would be quoted as telling SPin  in that article “there would have been three   limos back in the old days. Now we’re relying  on hotel shuttle buses to take us to the gig.”  Spin magazine would perfectly summarize what  happened to the band “industry insiders the ones   quick to point out births, deaths and rebirths,  gleefully heralded that metal is dead. Anthrax   is touring clubs in a van to try & reconnect”  says one record company executive who asked not   to be named “And they didn’t even do the big hair  thing. Megadeth’s last album was a complete dog.   That formula is dead. We’ve all walked  away from it. Nothing aged worse than that.   And it was true both warner brothers and  columbia had phased out their metal departments.   The legendary heavy metal radio station KNAC  in los angeles switched formats to play spanish   music. Add to that that mtv’s long running show  headbangers ball was cancelled at that time.  Those old days of carrying out road cases  full of makeup mirrors and leather pants   were also gone for SKid Row. The band was  now wearing baggy shirts and shorts on stage,   something the band chalked up to convenience  since they more eas fit into knapsacks instead   of large road cases. Warrant frontman Jani Lane  who was also interviewed for the article doubted   the change in appearance was out of convenience  telling Spin “it’s just not accepted anymore to   come out looking glam. It doesn’t help you get on  the radio. I like dressing up or having a costume.   Now the whole band struggles with it. Do we try to  fit in or do we do what we did five years ago and   never be accepted. Yeah I’ve worn flannel shirts,  i’m ashamed to admit it.” When spin reached out to   other bands in the same article to talk about the  state of metal poison refusing to comment on the   story while motley crue publicist didn't like  the word metal being associated with the band.  Despite the band’s change in sound and  appearance around the time of Subhuman Race,   frontman Sebastian Bach didn’t count himself  a fan of alternative rock band at the time   taking aim at courtney love, nirvana criticizing  their drug abuse going on to telling Spin “we   don’t cancel shows in this band” going on to call  alternative and grunge and i quote “revenge of the   college people. They hated all of us rockers in  high school because we got all of the chicksThen   they took over mtv and no rockers allowed. He  would also share the same venom for MTV who helped   propel the band in the late 80’s early 90’s, but  now rarely played the group’s videos telling Spin   “we bow at their feet. We work for a tv station.  I was that 20 year old flavour of the month,   the eddie vedder/alainis morrissette thing  and in five years it’ll be someone else.   MTV would even answer back against bach in  the same article with Andy Schuon firing   back saying the network did play the video for  one of the band’s singles from subhuman race   a few times since the network felt it needed some  exposure saying “we do have an agenda. It reflects   what is happening in the music scene. As a genre,  metal is not dead, but it’ not what it once was.”   The spin reporter who followed around skid row on  their van halen tour interviewed fans who came to   the shows and made the conclusion that it was  industry insiders who were more obsessed with   labels as fans spouted off both alternative and  metal bands as their favourite acts at the time.   I’d love to know your guys thoughts are on  this whole debate in the comments section.  By 1996 the band played a musical festival  in Brazil sharing the bill with iron maiden,   king diamond Mercyful Fate and Motorhead. Upon  returning to the states the members of Skid Row   knew it was over with Bolan reflecting to Louder  Sound “I knew when I got off the plane at JFK   Airport that I’d never step on stage with Skid  Row again, He would go to say “By then we were   viewed as a cartoon band, and the genre we were  lumped into had been swallowed up and laughed at.”  The following year the wheels finally came off  the band when two days before christmas in 1996   fired Sebastian Bach over the phone. It’s been  long reported that A dispute over whether to   open for kiss on top of bach’s ego seemed to be  the reason for the split. Bach reportedly wanted   to open for Kiss while his bandmates didn’t  thinking they were too big to open for Kiss.   Bolan would tell the Chuck Shute podcast Things  were pretty bad within the band — with all of us,   actually. [We] never heard from each other when  we were home, and most of us lived 15 minutes   from each other's house. And it started to get not  fun at one point, because it was just all bullshit   that went along with preparing to do stuff,  and whatever it was. It was a relief in a way.  Scott Hill would point to a voicemail  that bach left for snake saying  “That caused a giant uproar is what it did,  and [Sebastian] did something to Snake that   was unacceptable… He called his house on  Thanksgiving and said some horrible things   into his answering machine, and Snake says, ‘You  know what? I’m not gonna be in a band with you   anymore.’ There you go. It’s as simple as that.” Following the firing of Bach, the remaining   members of Skid Row pursued other musical projects  until reuniting with the band in 2000 with a new   singer in johnny sollinger who’d put out two  albums with Since then the band has been a   constant presence on the touring circuit. Bach  for his part would pursue a solo music career,   appear on broadway and even have a recurring  character on the WB show gilmore girls. The band  
Info
Channel: Rock N' Roll True Stories
Views: 695,831
Rating: undefined out of 5
Keywords: rock n' roll, rock, music, documentary, story, interview, skid row, rob affuso, rachel bolan, dave snake sabo, bon jovi, jon bon jovi, sebastian bach, sebastian bach skid row, 18 and life, youth gone wild, i remember you, guns n' roses skid row
Id: glownqkM1dY
Channel Id: undefined
Length: 17min 24sec (1044 seconds)
Published: Mon Dec 20 2021
Related Videos
Note
Please note that this website is currently a work in progress! Lots of interesting data and statistics to come.