SmartLess | Dave Grohl

favorite food go spaghetti meatballs spaghetti and meatballs that's pretty good what about fucilla what about food about few silly meatballs no but that falls under the same that's the same category that's just pasta now i'm talking about okay so no no let's not get into different kinds of pasta pasta yeah no pasta remember when jason's french fries if i could have one single thing it would be french fries one single thing one single thing for me would be ice cream okay great welcome to smartlav [Music] hey uh will is that a let's go spider-man uh yeah he's got a spider-man chair huh he's sitting in a spider-man chair it's abel's chair um because i'm in my new booth and it's not finished and so i love how you blame it on the kids always blaming on the kids i'm not blaming it on it i'm explaining what it is that's your new booth in your new house yeah um it's not it's not finished i gotta put the carpet's not in yet and um are you gonna put leather floors in this one too you [ __ ] douchebag don't be an idiot we're going suede um um you know i i'm not i'm not happy with my uh podcast room set up here the couch i'm sitting on is it's it's not comfortable and i feel like can i ask you is your couch from an old house is this just like a leftover it looks like like you're in a room that's full of leftovers like like from your college days it is it is right and uh and i'm looking at a pilates bench whatever you call it in front of me performer reformer yeah i just feel like it's time to admit that we're going to be doing this for a while and i ought to untemporary my situation well make yourself comfortable why wouldn't you make you get something a scenario that you're happy to go sit in well also sitting up straight jay like my posture i don't want you to hurt your lower back well i it's that's my point it's impossible to sit up straight in this couch and i mean i mean should i dress for it too i'm still in my pajamas the dressing is fine i think it's more it's the posture i think it's and i think it's making you it's affecting your mood quite frankly anything uh you have a shitty attitude yes making your shitty attitude because all your organs are crunched up you have to elongate those organs hey man let's keep the classy so let's get on the reformer and i'm gonna i'm gonna come over there i'll be i can be there in about four minutes and i'm gonna come over and i'm gonna um lengthen your organ with an s or a z or a z okay so our guest today are you guys ready for one of my great written intros again they're so funny guys okay do you write this thing how many gummies in there when you write these because i don't think i've swallowed them yet but i just still sort of picking them out of my teeth put them in the back so this is the ninth draft okay this is how good this intro is actually it's only about six minutes old our guest today is one of the most popular figures in music comma worldwide period he started at the young age of 17 in the band we all know and love steve winwood called scream he's now on his third band he's been inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame and is about to be inducted for the second time wait what he's directed numerous videos and a few documentaries he's been on snl saturday night live tracy 14 times he has long dark hair a great smile and loves animals long hikes and short stories he's a capricorn and don't i know it because this fella has the exact same birth day and year as yours truly friends this is dave grohl dave oh dave crawford [Applause] look at that led zeppelin book i know they asked for a towel to cover the camera thing and you dry yourself off with the led zeppelin box set exactly yeah uh hi guys hi can that take us right to drumming and my personal favorite john bonham is he number one for you absolutely no question truly number one no question no question no one close okay what could can now when i say the word the the words neil pert to you what does that do to you boy's canadian so it doesn't really yeah was he he was in he was in russia right yeah he was a guy from rush don't say he was the guy from rush you're being he was the guy from rush by the way here's the pretty tight second a drummer like john bonham sure you have to understand that the thing that defines a drummer is their feel their signature sound it's like their fingerprint right every drummer has a different feel if you have a piece of music and you give it to three different drummers they'll play it three different ways personally i think that john bonham was the greatest drummer not because of his technical proficiency which was beyond anyone else sure not because of his big fat feel which was better than anyone else but because he was kind of like he like teetered on the brink of chaos the entire time so he could like lay down a big fat groove cashmere good example sure the simplicity um but i mean listen frankly frankly when it comes to warmth nothing beats cashmere but i'm sorry dave i've i've cut you off you were about to say that john bonham had a heavy stick right he hit a heavy foot yes he was he was amazing here's the thing when i was young i got that 2112 record when i was like about seven or eight years old right and i was embarrassed to show it to my friends because of alex lifeson's camel toe that he had in that particular kimono on the back and i studied that record and i thought it was amazing but it's when you listen to rush you kind of listen to how he's playing stuff but with john bonham you're listening because you want to know why he's playing i was going to joke and say why but you actually said why and that's interesting a little side note the boys know i just got back from canada and on my way back yesterday i stopped in at harvey's for a burger it's a great canadian chain all right oh yeah hey so i was in there i was in the i went in i had to use the washroom is it over here the washroom and uh as i'm in there taking a squirt all i hear is just very very very faintly just here the blacksmith and the artist must be the ones just and i'm like this is somebody this is like the national anthem up there i know and and i will tell you this the first time when when uh when i was first dating my my ex-wife we we went up to meet my folks the first morning we were in toronto we go to a starbucks and we're waiting in line not a tim hortons not a tim horton no it was a starbucks and in front of in front of us was getty lee right in front of us and i turned to amy and i go every day every day up here is just getting everywhere is that yeah friday so now now now uh to close the john bonham thing jason bonham a tight second a bronze is he is he in the top five um he's yes i well i do believe in the miracle of dna yes and that he inherited a lot of his father's um skills um like when you when you listen we were at a studio not too long ago a couple years ago and uh he was down the hall recording and with the door closed listening to jason bonham play it's it sounded like a guy from led zeppelin playing so you're saying the best way to hear jason bonham is to hear him through a closed door i mean that's not a resounding he didn't say that not exactly what i said no i don't know he does he does he he when he plays with a a group that plays zeppelin he does he plays exactly like john did it doesn't improvise listen i want to this is all great for these other drivers but i want to get to you dave grohl because look i i have to say you're a guitarist now and you're a lead singer and you're a front man but you wanted to give the drums to taylor he he gave him the dress he wanted to want to let the baby have it but i will say i mean jesus christ it's pretty rad can we just take a second because you don't probably think about this enough you're dave girl drummer from nirvana yeah that's crazy and and and i i want to i want to get into everything you've done since yeah but i wanted to say that you're dave grohl from nirvana yeah think about that for a second i want you to enjoy that because that's pretty [ __ ] i bet he's never thought about it before no i don't think he has you but when i was in college you get this every day of your life i've never met you it's such an honor to meet you i think you're amazing and when i was in college uh you know nirvana was just gigantic and you know this that when you know music has a special and penetrates your soul in a certain way that other things don't so a lot of people have a relationship with music that brings them back to when they were in a certain point in their life and there's not a lot of things that do that so for me nirvana was just massive right thanks it's just massive sorry but i want to know because you're everybody knows you're such a phenomenal drummer and guitarist is there an instrument that you've always wanted to play that you've never picked up or or learned yet my first instrument was a trombone and i realized that that wasn't cool and then my but i really started with guitar i'm that was my first instrument but the one thing i've always wanted to do which i promised myself i would learn someday is tap dance are you serious i'm dead serious come over i'll teach you in two seconds oh my god i have the shoes but i've just never done it i have many i'm scared to wear them in public i have the shoes and so one of these i figured that like i could implement a lot of my my drumming skills and my understanding of rhythm into this i can't dance but i think i could do it with my feet like speed metal double kick drum drum i'm gonna need both of you to sign a release real quick and i'm coming over too cause i'm gonna video the whole thing if that would be okay yeah no dave's saying and we'll both have white claws in our hands dancing with white clothes why not now okay now so so so so dave so uh you you knew how to play the drums uh you knew you started with the guitar but then when you did that first album for foo fighters all by yourself guys he played every single instrument is that true the whole first album is nothing but him and it's stunning so did that come as a result of you just kind of you know screwing around or did you go i'm going to make an album i'm going to have a band i'm going to be the only musician and i'm gonna sing and here we go or was it more just sort of like a well let's see if i can kind of do this by myself and if it kind of gets traction so be it well when i was young i figured out how to multi-track with two cassette players like when i was like 10 or 11 years old where you can take one like radio shack cassette player record guitar onto that take that cassette and put it into the home stereo hit play and then put another cassette in the in the because and play drums along to the guitar and then you'd have drums and guitar on one cassette so i was writing songs about like fantastic quality i just had a crazy experience when you said when i was young when i was it reminds me of that lyric in your new song where you're like when i was a young boy when i used to have a toy gun what is that song it's called waiting on a war waiting on a war which i've listened to a lot because i listened to a lot of uk radio you guys um oh because yeah cause that's kind of cool and uh my buddy johnny vaughan plays it a lot on his radio station over there he's a great guy very hilarious guy much funnier than these two dave yeah and he's available he plays it a lot and i love that song it's such a yeah it's have you guys heard it no they have it but it's such a great song i'm sure they have yeah it's such a great song um dave can i ask you a question hang on host of the year has a question go ahead here we go everybody's favorite house go ahead wait what's going on sean's everybody's favorite no he definitely talks the least dave dave we just got some i hope how do you do it sean hold on i'm talking to sean sean sean you and i come on i i wait i wait for a sliver of an opening and like please jump in there i'm sorry uh no how do you like your omelettes uh i don't know yeah there it is because i've never met you and i'm truly a big fan i have to ask you and i apologize because you probably get this a lot but when you were in nirvana i know hold for it he loves it i just love them i love you and i love them so much when you were in it and you were first like uh meeting and creating music and recording together did you all know you had something special were there was there in fighting you're like this is never gonna [ __ ] work out like what were the dynamics well i joined i met them through a mutual friend i was in a band called scream and we came out on we toured in a van and we toured america play little clubs and blah blah blah and we wound up on the west coast our bass player skeeter decided to just go home without telling anyone we were saying that that sounds odd for a guy like skeeter to just i don't imagine and it wasn't the first [ __ ] time he'd done it by the way he did it in europe and i don't think he got his name yeah so uh we're gonna take him out of here he so we were stuck in a house in laurel canyon full of mud wrestlers who worked at the hollywood tropicana where in willow canyon was it it's right next to that house where rick rubin records stuff that like mansion yes i know exactly what it is it's directly next door to that and so our guitar player and singer were uh brothers and their sister worked at the hollywood tropicana so we had a place to crash anyway so the skeeter goes home and then this friend of mine says hey you know nirvana's looking for a drummer and i'd heard their first record and i loved it i thought it was great so he gave me their number and i called him up and they said actually we already have a drummer i was like cool okay well if you come down to la i'm just living in a house full of mud wrestlers and so then they called back that night and said uh maybe you should call kurt and then i got on the phone with current we started talking and he said all right well if you can come up to seattle um let's jam and so i flew up there and yeah within like two minutes of us playing together it sounded great really good when you went to sorry just just no no go ahead well just to that like kind of like to sean's thing like when you're in that gym recording the video that everybody has seen a million times and you're going to spirit yeah uh i don't even need to say it smells like teen spirit one of the most iconic stuff did you know in that moment you're like we're doing something pretty [ __ ] rad and different here no we were like this is the most spinal tap moment of our entire are you serious really yeah i mean because it was like there was like fire machines and a director with a bullhorn like more fire more fun it was like it was kind of a little weird when they said okay you should you should call kurt was that because you needed to just kind of do like a personality test with him or did you guys talk drum theory was it like an audition type of phone well they had seen our band scream play and i was the guy with the big drums that would beat the [ __ ] out of the drums and they basically said like well if we could get a guy like that i meant i'm like a disco drummer i'm a very ac dc full on just like i love it and that's what they needed and so um and then i just happened to be available and so when we went up and started playing also i sang backup vocals which kurt was putting on some songs and so i could sing that to him was there any joy from kurt like because every interview every story everything i've ever seen is just very heavy and dramatic no this is a popular misconception about nirvana that we it was a total drag and it wasn't you seemed pretty funny actually kurt was really funny he had a really [ __ ] up sense of humor and i was really really funny and nova zelich too the bass player i mean we were like we were like the addams family like nova scelic is six seven and a half right you know right the uh unplugged mtv uh you could you could tell you guys had a great sort of fun kind of chemistry you could tell things were pretty dry and dry and always yeah you know but it i mean but then there were times that were really difficult because we basically went from sleeping in a squalid little apartment eating corn dogs every day to becoming this thing that people now know as nirvana in the course of like four weeks or six weeks and we were kids we were like 22 23 years old right so it was really kind there were times that it got really difficult is that like the middle of 91 when that just first exploded with that so it was september 91 yeah what was the first thing that you bought that you felt like you know what this is this is really uh irresponsible of me the first thing i did the first check i got was 400 bucks it was the most money i'd ever had in my entire life from nirvana stuff yeah 400 bucks i was like [ __ ] and i went to the fred meyer like k-mart store i bought a bb gun a nintendo and i got a [ __ ] tattoo and then i was back to the corn dogs like i had nothing fully mc hammered it within like 24 hours just [ __ ] dropped the whole thing back to the couch in the corner it's good to learn that lesson on the 400 bucks so when the big check comes you go like all right i'm not going to do the bb gun again this is one of the beautiful things about some rock stars like you think about someone like steven tyler oh my god that guy's had 10 million dollars and then 10 and then 10 million dollars and then tender and i don't know if he's buying bb guns and [ __ ] nintendos but it kind of goes like this but actually when we started making real money my father my both of my parents were musicians my dad was a classically trained flautist and my mother was saying in acapella groups and stuff so we love music anyway my dad was also he was a conservative republican speechwriter on capitol hill and at a journalist and a campaign manager and my mom was a public school teacher like liberal cool they were very cool but anyway so when we first started making money my dad was like you know this isn't gonna last right and i was like no [ __ ] of course why he said uh you have to treat every check you make like it's the last one you're ever going to make he scared the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of me and i still do this yeah like i still everyone i get i'm like well that's it i guess i'm [ __ ] out back to shaky's pizza i'm [ __ ] yeah right right and we will be right back incredible support from zip recruiter incredible incredible as the holidays approach jason bateman there are still a lot of jobs to fill those colorful lights aren't going to hang themselves if you like me need to hire for a fun and festive role or any other there's only one place you should go to ziprecruiter.com smartlist after all if ziprecruiter can fill an advanced snowmaker or holiday lighting installer role then they can 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where you grew up yeah just outside of dc yeah what what let me ask you this what were the bands you really like right when you were getting i know you talked about zeppelin and i know we all appreciate i love those bands and i'm an eclectic like people say i'm like i'm not a dead head but i've seen the dead like 11 times like but but i'm not i think that makes you a deadhead no it doesn't no it doesn't no i'm pretty sure i once saw on the scene are you like spinning and taping and doing he's a fish fan do you have a tie-dye in the closet don't forget devil sticks out of the back i actually have you ever worn tie-dye short i mean uh socks that's a big no never been i have a brand new all black the grateful dead they do send me it's a weird story they the band sends me stuff sometimes anyway i will say this i saw within a week i saw bob dylan's and and the uh jerry garcia band both sing forever young within within seven days of each other at madison square anyway uh but my point was this what kind of what kind of music were you i know i was trying to get into like we're all into a collector you love zeppelin you love but was there one kind of music that you loved more than any other like were you an indie guy were you a pop guy metal guy i was first i was a beatles guy okay and then i got that rush record with the camel toe and i was afraid to [ __ ] let anyone hear it i know that i was listening to i hit it like under my bed like it was a playboy i hid it under the bed and then um and then i discovered uh punk rock music i went up to chicago these cousins that live in evanston outside of chicago and we would go up every year from virginia for yeah well i'm from chicago i know i was oh there you go so my cousin tracy lived in evanston right off the lake on this do you have a train i do wait a minute wait a minute wait you have a cousin named tracy nevinson i did oh she's not dead she's just in florida now but anyway okay anyway so i went up there and she had turned into a punk rocker like one summer we show up and she's got like chains and boots and the jacket and the shaved head i was like i'd only seen that on like quincy and chips i'm like holy [ __ ] [ __ ] this is real oh my god wait a minute it's amazing yes it needs to be rescued that night she took me to the first time i ever saw a band was this punk rock band from chicago called naked raygun and they were playing at this right they were playing at the cubby bear right across the street from wrigley yes of course so she took i was like 13. she took me to the cubby bear and i'm like all i knew about rock and roll was like the lasers and the dragons and the castles and the [ __ ] kiss and [ __ ] like that yeah so this was like this tiny shitty little room with a tiny shitty little stage and they had two tiny shitty little lamps and there was a microphone and they started playing and the place [ __ ] exploded and like spit and blood and puke and [ __ ] guys standing on my head and i was like oh this is rock and roll yeah that's pretty well so then i [ __ ] dove head first into that whole punk rock thing but the thing that i loved about it is that all of these bands were totally doing it themselves like there was no record companies they had their own record companies and made their own so either like like fugazi like that whole vibe like that that was kind of aussie yeah like fugazi yeah that whole scene well that's that's where i grew up in dc right like those were 9 30 club how much time did you spend in chicago we'd usually go for like a couple weeks and then we'd go back home yeah did you ever go do you ever go to medusas did not go to medusas if it's like a like an ice cream shop or something what is it yeah so is that what you used to get your pants tailored what is that a vape thing i don't know so so speaking of pants speaking of the camel toe and everything once you got off the drum stool and you went you became lead man you're up front was there a pressure to work on the inseam at all like when you're up front do you have to what is the rock and roll sort of um rule there that you uh can you wear baggy pants as a uh wait huh uh we're talking can you wear baggy pants as a singer or do you obviously have to talk about m.c hammer this whole podcast is that what we're doing john bonham go uh well no i mean i didn't put that much thought sure one of the reasons why okay so i go and i record that thing by myself um where the first record it was just because the first foo fighters it was in seattle there was a studio right down the street from my house and i'm like okay i need to do something right because i stopped playing music i didn't want to become someone else's drummer and i was you know we were our whole world was turned up you went to ireland and you what there's this great story about a hitchhiker there if you want to if you want to shoot yeah so after kurt died um everyone just kind of like retreated into our corners and we kind of hid from the world and i decided to go on this like soul searching find the most remote place on earth trip and i went to the ring of cary in scotland where i'd been before and i decided i was gonna drive around and think for a while and i was driving down this country road and i saw a hitchhiker and i thought well maybe i'll pick him up and as i got closer i saw that he had a kurt cobain t-shirt on in the middle of nowhere and it was in that moment that i'm like okay i can't outrun this thing i need to like i need to play music that's why so then i went back and booked six days in this little studio and just recorded the 15 songs by myself thinking okay i'm just going to make a cassette and hand it to some friends and what it was not like a career decision it was like okay i'm just going to do this because i felt like i needed to do it but it made you go good i thought you were going to say so i strangled the guy and i hit him in some bushes like okay good you did not do that that did not happen okay good good [ __ ] the t-shirt get the [ __ ] out of there as fast as i could um man that album is is so great as all the ones that followed have been as well but that was kind of you're like you realize that like you had to kind of i love that idea like that that headspace that you're in that you're like you you're like okay universe i hear you [ __ ] i'm uh i'll go i'll do it i'll jump back in just steer right into it well i mean if you think about it like your entire life listen in the darkest moments of your life you've probably turned to music and listened to music uh to help heal whatever you feel so i kind of went in that at first i'd stop listening to music and then i'm like no wait it's kind of healed me my whole life now i need to like get back into it right 100 i get that and then what was it was it um transitioning off of the drum set and going up front and uh finding taylor and and kind of handing that off to the drum kit by the way it's a drum kit sorry yeah was that was it was that a comfortable thing did you want to sing and play guitar and be upfront or was it what was that decision process that was totally weird and foreign and i hated it but that's kind of why i did it because i didn't want to just go sit and play the drums some more because i kind of knew i could do that but this was something i didn't know that i could do and you had some things you wanted to say yeah with with writing lyrics and and my lyrics are [ __ ] terrible i said absolutely nothing at all for the first ten years like maybe the last record i actually said something meaningful are you conscious of that when you're when you're right i'm not agreeing with you uh but are you when you're writing lyrics are you like i'm not even gonna try to do anything somewhat profound you know i remember spending so much time on a lyric once and our bass player nate said dude not every song has to be imagined you know that right and so then i was like really [ __ ] [ __ ] right right um well can we go back so who is the floutest your dad or your mom dad my dad dad and did you did they encourage you to study music and to learn uh music theory and and things like that are you just by ear and i just kind of went by ear there was this old guitar in the corner uh of our house and like around nine nine years old i picked it up and i was one string and i'm like i'm like oh [ __ ] this is easy yeah and then i just [ __ ] i took like a few guitar lessons and i had this uh beatles song book and play along with beatles stuff but drums i'd i would set up pillows in my bedroom on the floor and and learn how to then put on records and do it that way does any part of you want to go learn not that you have to because you're brilliant but go back and kind of learn all of the how to read music and how and the music theory of it and chord progressions and time signatures and all that kind of stuff oh god that sounds like a lot of fun yeah no there is no part of me that wants it now that you've got a lot of money and time to do whatever you want you want to go into the reason boring you know i actually had a plan when i was young i was like okay since i'll never become a professional musician i should learn how to read music and i'll become a studio drummer and then i'll uh make enough money that i could put myself back uh through school and then get a real job yeah right right and then i was like [ __ ] that can i ask a dumb question can you read uh drum music do drums have notes yeah they do and they look like squiggly little lines i don't get it just like they're exes where the notes are they're just texas okay sean like let's let's learn this shawn's dress shawn knows what he's talking about maybe you could teach me to play the drums as well tap dancing drumming yeah if you got some extra time dave he's trying to get you to try to identify he's working towards ask him sean about musicals [ __ ] ask him i know i have another question though about genres of youth because there are so many you've seen his promises have you seen promises have you uh is there a certain genre of music that you aren't drawn to like uh you know there's so many there's country there's pop there's rock there's rap there's just tons and tons is there something they're like ah that's not for me uh i'm not the biggest country fan i have to be honest um there are certain things that i kind of like and there's certain artists that i respect and think are really great maybe you and i can get together and watch a ken burns documentary on country and get to know it and get should we do that yeah should we go i mean i went to like i did this hbo series called sonic highways and i went to nashville right and did a whole episode on nashville and it was really interesting and of course like nashville's that's the town with the best musicians that's the place where yeah you walk down the street look in someone's window and they're playing like a dulcimer or something like that like that that place is filled with the most brilliant musicians i don't know why it's just i've just never clicked with the country tell me how you like or not like the uh being sort of the front man the leader the dad in the band um well but i mean you know he put it together and he's the boss and how do you like managing the inevitable ups and downs of traveling and living together and probably spending more time with one another before you answered sorry jason i just want to get you off and just say or the mom just because just to cut off all you know to head off the letters you need to get he needs to be mom too you know there's mom you're such a dummy wow will's policing this whole thing yeah that's a bad sign that's not cool yeah that's like me being the front person but are you good at smoothing out conflict and doing all the administrative stuff uh that one needs to do in a band or not well we've been a band for 26 years that's crazy which is amazing it's 26 years that's great and i think that eventually you you uh come up with some sort of system that works and i always liken it to like wheels and a clock there's like the big wheel that rolls slow there's a little wheel that kind of does this and when the the gears meet like it keeps ticking and so i love that you know i like to be in a band right right like i like it when everybody is there for the same reason and everyone's contributing and it's really awesome do i have to make like sort of weird decisions tough decisions sometimes yes but i refer to different members for certain things like if i have the sort of like a any sort of like ethical dilemma or crisis i turn to nate and pat and i'm like what should we do they're like the barometer uh if it's if we need to have like a stadium rock ending to a song i turned to taylor and i'm like taylor how do what would queen do you know so what about t-shirt designs who's who's got who's got never me absolutely not never never never me really no who's got the taste on the graphic art um it's probably like nate and chris and you know what to be honest i don't [ __ ] care so i just kind of back out go like yeah whatever you guys want to do you don't care for real when it comes to album covers and [ __ ] yes we haven't done a coffee cup for a while or what about a good key fob you're not yeah that's an email that i swipe and delete by the way those are those are bateman's best ideas coffee cup and a [ __ ] key fob god designed the group i mean look at the he's aesthetically inclined just take a look guys this looks like just a generic hoodie it's six thousand dollars by the way we should mention this is a great time to mention because we've never mentioned it except for when we we do have hoodie we have a website i just thought about that this week we have a website oh you have merch and we have merch we've never talked about cool go to foo fighters.com from yeah.com yeah it's weird that we're selling ourselves dave when you were growing up it's clear that you kind of you know took uh influence from your dad and the music side and a lot of kids either go one way or the other right you go oh i want to do what my parents do or i don't i want to run from what my parents did is what about your kids is anybody kind of worried in your case your parents just run sorry but keep going sean sorry and i stayed put and got fat but anyway uh but is uh what about your kids do they want to do it dad does they want to run well my daughter violet who's 15 she is the most talented musician that this family has ever known like she has perfect pitch and she has wow like a incredible memory musical memory um she could pick up an instrument and learn it in like a week she's a total badass does she think you're a badass or she think uh he's daddy sucks he's a dad ass no i think she you know she it's cause she's she's grown up like you know i've been carrying her backstage since she was you know so she's seen this whole thing like from the people she gets that you're good that that you're not just screwing around well she gets that i work really hard at trying to make good records and stuff like that and that's a big part of it how does she handle all the travel i mean she doesn't know any different uh hopefully like like my kids like they just kind of deal with it and i don't see any problems yet but um how does the family deal with you being gone all the time well you know she's actually she's one of our backup singers now oh great so she comes on the road and we like we share a room she's like on that side of the street i'm on this 15 and a half on this side wake up in the morning and i like order room service then i'm like it's time to get up and then we like have some breakfast and then we roll our bags down to the thing and then we go to the thing a hundred thousand people we get a pizza and then we watch a horror movie and it's actually really awesome and then my daughter harper she came up to me when she was like nine or something like that she's like dad i want to learn how to play the drums and i'm like oh drums like that's some [ __ ] mail room position [ __ ] really like straight to the drums usually you get demoted and so i was like okay so i started showing her how to play the drums and she has like an internal meter where she's got really good time and she understands how that [ __ ] works and i sat her down and gave her an ac dc record and she was like she has fuel iron like she's really got it she did it for like three months and was just like [ __ ] that by the way that was really good already did you show her the videos of nandy bushel oh yeah well you know what they're actually my daughters uh we i wrote a song for nandy and my three daughters were the backup singers for the song that i wrote was that was that girl that english girl that you got into that thing with that that was so so red i have a question about what you just did because that was kind of mind-blowing what you just like will just say that was crazy is the thing about drummers is that is like this internal thing how do you learn how to i mean it's you keeping the rhythm for the whole song for the whole show all the time every song and how do you learn how to do that you know i'll tell you when i was a kid like when we would my grandparents lived in ohio and we would drive from springfield up to youngstown ohio and when you pass through pennsylvania you're going through all of those tunnels through the mountains and stuff so you have a radio station on and there's a song it's like wham and and then you go into the tunnel and it's gone and you try to keep time with it so when you come out it's like so i remember this game that is so [ __ ] tunnels to see if i could actually keep the meter going like that and so i did that my whole entire life but all joking aside and the tap dancing i never joke about that that's no joke you have to be you have to be a good dancer because not that you've tried maybe or i don't know because it's your whole body is rhythm yeah but that's kind of the last thing you want to see um from anyone on a dance floor because i'm either going to like do the [ __ ] robot or i look like a dead head like will or it's like it's not i don't know how is that how is that how is the rhythm the internal rhythm the clock that you have how is it uh you know shown up in other parts of life you know uh i could play drums with my teeth you can what does that look like let me see if i can i can i can do this i can do this with my with my mouth and my nose my breath i can go oh i heard that that was cool i was like check yeah yeah wait do you do blow do i do blow no i don't know why she's still like that that's what's coming um hey you really should dry it though yeah it's really fun aside um so hey sean did you do that because you wanted to try to figure out how to smell your own breath do any of you guys know how to smell your own breath i'm sorry what's the question idiot i'm sorry i just i want to double back on the camel toe question for dave and then when i want to get to brett smelling um guys i'm the best host of the year what about these questions wait are you what about these questions i had a joke that i was going to make that even i wouldn't make so i do it we can cut it go no i'm not going to do it really do it no i'm this is i actually have a line all right okay hey dave what about directing why why do you have a passion for that or is it just like ah [ __ ] and i'm tired of listening to these guys direct our videos i'll tell where to point the camera and stuff like that or do you have a passion for for that well most of the videos that we've done like have come from crazy dreams that i've had and so and we would look through all the treatments people would send us and i'm like man what doesn't really matter and then i would write a treatment and someone would say do you want to direct it and i'd say i have no idea how to do that and then i would do it and so i've done it a bunch of times and then the documentary stuff like yeah that stuff just kind of fell into my lap and that's really fun i really enjoy doing that who are the who are the musicians now and all jokes aside from going like you know like uh elvis presley like who are the people you would like to who are still making music who have been making music in the last 25 years current recording artists that you're like or that you were you would like to make a record with or you think is [ __ ] cool or doing something that's cool and i don't mean like i want to do with justin bieber like forget the mainstream and i don't want to hear the ironic answer tell me the real answer not like the thing that you think about you know what i mean yeah no i know i've i've met a lot of really amazing musicians i'm sure everybody you met everybody like like steve malcomus like somebody like that like he's well i'm more like omar hakeem and nile roger greg kirsten and like just like assemble like a real like badass group of people to go in the studio for one week and then just like bang some stuff out and see what happens that's really fun because when you meet musicians that you've never really played with before yeah you meet someone and and you try to carry a conversation and you try to like make friends this way but when you put on instruments as musicians like those conversations can be more fun and deeper when there's no language you're just like playing the music together that's really awesome because then you you almost you you find out what type of person they are by the way that they play their instruments so that's why i love jamming with so many different people is that it's like you know once you sit down and start doing it you're like oh that's who you are oh okay cool i tried to make a conversation with dave once uh during some of my my my before i lost my privileges this is when i was really thirsty during my peak drinking sure i uh it was over at uh i think it was trader vic's uh in uh in beverly hills um you know how psyched was he when you yeah well hold on yeah he let me know um i uh i was deep into my third scorpion bowl and uh there's dave grohl sitting sitting in a booth um and i had just learned that we share the same birthday and year and i just thought he would be thrilled to learn sure too i am i have been no remember the time we had the birthday show at the at the forum i was so excited for us to share an arena concert but this was celebrating our birthdays but this was my first this is my my passion for you was running white hot i'd never met you before and there he is and i just learned we shared the same birthday so what there's no wonder why i think this guy's so amazing so i slide into the booth next to him and i just give him the eyebrows and i say hey guess who's got the same birthday as me same here just smiling at him waiting for a like a [ __ ] what and he looked at me i did this is all did my my drunk memory uh i'm sure he was very very nice but i just remember just whatever the physical facial equivalent of crickets is i got it no that's pretty spot on that's pretty spot on what you're it was right yeah pretty much you know so [ __ ] what jason bateman i'm here right how crazy is this we'll be right back hey sean i was wondering did you know that smartlist is brought to you in part by new not everyone wants to be on a strict diet jason no do two a days at the gym or drink questionable teas instead of trying to cram your life into someone else's idea of health try nume nume uses a psychology-based approach to find a healthier balance that's moldable to your life and as a result more sustainable new weights cognitive behavioral approach helps you better understand your relationship with food how to be more mindful of your habits and gives you the knowledge and support you need for a long lasting change after all with noon taking care of your health 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creating something are you that kind of personality just coast ghost goes all the time and if so how do you relax how do you calm down what calms your brain down or no your white claw white cloud uh no uh yes i am a total spaz that's the short answer uh what do i do to relax is there anything that calms you down i don't no i don't have any hobbies i don't you work out or do you go no you don't work out let's come work out with me dave come over to the house no yeah but dave are you dave are you are you a spaz all day or are you like me because we are the same age yeah at like four o'clock is it a testosterone thing is it uh you might want to get your thyroid checked are you napping at all now dad i'm a bad napper no no no not good no no i pretty much spazz all day i you know it kind of ramps up around what time is it 10 11 o'clock in the morning yeah and then uh it peak peak spas and then it kind of dips a little bit let me let me ask you guys like a and then the white claw but a really dark weak stream is a good sign right yes especially if it smells like maple syrup i think that's what you're just checking referring to right yes i'm healthy ah dave dark and weak i love it but we do i do want to know though like is it like are you a basement do you watch baseball or do you yeah sports no okay you don't watch sports no the closest thing i had to sports was i was on a skeet shooting league for a while that's pretty good it's pretty fun that's pretty dope as hell that's my sport with skeeter like skeeter how often are you playing music is it every day in some capacity you're picking up and just kind of like noodling around on the guitar looking for a rhythm that might become a song that happens kind of every day but um what do you listen to in the car do you do you have a radio do you listen to radio at all and i do i listen to old school legit first of all like just the fact that i'm on a computer right now with the thing that's connected to this other thing and all this stuff is a [ __ ] miracle i'm the most like am radio analog dude yeah i drive around in the car i listen to klos or whatever like fog hat again and i still like it and yeah yeah or you know i i'm also a youtuber so i'll wind up watching uh videos of songs like i just the other day remember that they might be giant song uh put a little bird house in your soul yes it's one of my favorite groups well i hadn't listened to them in like 30 years yeah and in the last 12 hours i've listened to that song like 1200 times it's the best i love it it's amazing like i'm even watching like covers that people have done of yeah whatever yes what about uh what about this sort of this move away from it's happening over the last 10 years probably 15 years away from real drums real guitar real everything and it's becoming much more sort of electronic and you can kind of make a whole album on a computer in the last 10 years have you ever heard soft sound yeah no but you know what i mean like 2011 right now what are you talking about but but like there's no more like amps and there are like remember the last time i mean there are moments where you see it sort of poking its head into mainstream music first of all it's not you know it's it's not like a meteor crash dinosaur extinction level event it's like guitars and drums thanks to you guys and a couple of other bands you guys are keeping that thing going strong but you know like the the the days like the new band used to be you know like white stripes or something that's just like hardcore but but now it's like anything that's like yeah but like super techno electronic odd you try to find a rhythm and you can't is sort of the new some of the new sort of i mean it's also very cyclical yeah something will be really really popular for a while and then that becomes like oh wow they're using guitars and drums like if you look at i mean first of all miley cyrus is like becoming the next joan jett as we speak like this is really happening yeah i mean like she goes out and she's like a rock star you know or like when lady gaga played on the grammys a few years ago like instead of doing her huge production she was like it was almost like she was ziggy stardust she was like singing with the band behind her hey uh dave let me ask you what's your favorite beat of all time that always gets you there's like a like there's a song that comes on you go like [ __ ] i just love that you know what it is it's that reggaeton beat that's like is there a song that has what is that there's ten thousand songs like that like justin's got one and selena's got one and i was just thinking like i love that you remember that like uh um stone roses fools gold yeah it's a manhattan beast well you know this is the thing sometimes it's dave did i get that right i don't [ __ ] know what any of you guys are talking about when you just turn it off well sometimes uh when a beat will define a whole genre of music and this is uh dangerous i think because then all of a sudden your band or your type of music you're playing is restricted to this one thing and it happened something like trap music when also when it was like [Music] and you're going like hit it shove it shave it all right [Laughter] that was like three years ago or whatever yeah right right exactly because it was the same [ __ ] beat in every [ __ ] so well i know what you're talking about um that song that stone rose's song everybody emulated that beat for like right after that that was like 1989 and it was just like boom all those bands out everybody manchester specifically but it was like so good and god i love that uh dave true true that you broke your leg went backstage got a cast on it came back out finished the concert then had a throne um uh built to continue the tour is that correct true all of it true all of it true well sort of i fell off the stage and i uh just looked at my ankle and broke my leg and then i felt no pain so i was like i'm gonna go fix this i'll be right back and i looked at the band it was like just play a queen song just go go go and they pulled me up to the side of the stage and the guy it was in sweden he takes off my my high top and he's like your ankle's dislocated i must put it back in right now and so i'm like oh my god so i got this huge cup of crown royals and then he puts it back in and he's holding it there and i'm like okay so noah can i go sit down and finish the show he's like well we have to put a cast on it and i was like where's okay do you have one he's like no we gotta go to the hospital i said how far away is that he's like half an hour i'm like [ __ ] that you go get the cast and i'll go sit down and he goes well if i let go of your ankle it's just gonna fall out and then i was like well then you're coming on stage [ __ ] and this guy nobody was like okay and he they they put this ace bandage around it and he came out with you and held my foot it was like now again wait i'm making decisions and so he sat there and held it as we played it was a stadium and we still had no pain wow no pain and then the throne and then you had a chair developed to continue the tour later gave that throne to axel rose true or false true axel had to use it oh you want to know what's crazy okay so then axel used it for guns and roses because he broke his foot and then he was also singing with ac dc at the time so then then it goes on tour with ac dc for a little bit and then i'm the guy that people call like hey i broke my [ __ ] ankle can i borrow the throne i was like yeah okay so i started sending it out to different people but recently like about a month ago there was this dude in a metal band who stopped an active shooter at his show at his own show he saw this guy that was acting sketchy and so he confronted him and the guy shot this dude in the band in the leg and then and then they they found his car was full of ammunition blah blah blah what and so that he and his friends started this online campaign like dave you should give him the throne and i gave him the throne for him to play in his metal band which is pretty radical so listen if any of you guys ever need yeah a throne uh-huh yeah uh i know you've got your spidey chair will but this thing has like lasers and a smoke machine on it yeah that would be that's pretty rad that's pretty rough dave uh i imagine you got some real quality uh house time with the w with the wife and the girls um during during covid uh but now um are you back on tour are you back on the road are you thinking about it we are we're doing some shows here and there we're playing uh well we've been out we went out for the last like two and a half three months and played all through the midwest and did lollapalooza and reopened madison square garden right that's right we've got some more shows coming up um and then we'll like quiet down for a little bit and then do it all again sean what what isn't there like a vocal exercise or like a sentence not not like quick brown foxtrot what is the thing you say before you do it i'll do it uh let's hear it i'll do a mama mama mama you're welcome huh wow you could do that you know what i did before a show yeah good what do you do three advil two coors lights and two shots of drama there it is is that 26 years 26 years right there is that true that's absolutely you know you don't smoke butts though right you don't smoke buds in a pinch i do you do i do i do all the things i'm not supposed to do you're a rock star goddammit it's not even that i'm just a [ __ ] up and i'm too lazy to do the thing sean did before a show terrified someone will hear me doing that but here is the deal and i don't want to embarrass you you have uh been an incredibly relevant figure in rock and roll for a long long time you've made all these records you have a family you are getting up early you're going to bed early yeah um you're still doing all the rock star things but you're managing to juggle the other side as well my hat is off definitely jason is really impressed with how early you get up because yeah it's just like that's the mark of somebody who's serious well you can't fake that you know [ __ ] we're not gonna fit in your [ __ ] box bateman okay of what you've drawn up what you think should be cause you don't need to do it yourself shut the [ __ ] of it dave dave you and i are rock stars man and we're doing it differently than everybody else said from a spidey chair it doesn't matter um you're a [ __ ] rad dude and come on over to the house we're gonna lift and i'm gonna get you into sports oh god sean's gonna tap dance with you and he's gonna get you into promises and promise and bateman you can go and f yourself and that's our show and with that uh sweet sweet dave grohl thank you for joining us yeah uh i'll see you at trader vic so cool to meet you daddy you're a treasure what a pleasure to meet you yeah thanks fellas we'll see you around okay see you man bye bye bye buddy that dave grohl jason what a great guess look i found out about the nirvana thing because i grew up listening to him so i tried very hard not to ask any nirvana questions he doesn't want to talk about nirvana why not no because that's all he's ever talked about everybody always wants to ask about it it's like this guy is one of the most iconic bands of all time i can't fare he's done 14 000 albums with the foo fighters that's like somebody's saying you can't ask you an ozark question or an arrested development question well but did did we hammer paul mccartney about the beatles no we should have we should we should have we did we talked a little bit about him being from liverpool and we bring up you know uh uh teen wolf two all the time with you we can't not talk i do enjoy talking i do enjoy talking about that because you as you point out it's teen wolf also yeah team teed up below yeah was not a sequel was not a sequel he's great super guy is super funny and he's got a brand new book out i should have asked him it's called the storyteller um and uh is it called the storyteller it's called the storyteller it's your favorite term will mm-hmm it's tough i'm gonna have to it's tough yeah but i do love dave and and by the way if you're actually writing a book and you call it the storyteller that's okay so do you guys get the same sort of vibe from him that you do for me because we share the same exact day i mean you believe in all that like astrology and like people born on the same day are kind of the same the same people do you think rock star when you when you look at me when you talk to me first of all i don't think that that's true i think that if you were born at the same minute maybe well maybe at the same place no i didn't really go that micro with it well why wouldn't you i like i like when he said the parts of the band he he associated with a clock where like the gear like the big gear moves a little slower the little one was faster and all come together will how would you describe us three as the as the internal parts of a clock first of all i didn't know that we were going around doing like i like when he said oh okay and i like when he said oh no i just remembered it i like that analogy too i thought that was really really cool would you call me the big [ __ ] no there's an l the clock clock big cog big [ __ ] cog yeah but you were very you were you were real slurry on this i was trying to slur the g just to get a joke i like the analogy of i like the analogy if we were all uh board games i would say i would say jason's chess will your checkers and i'm probably shooting sorry you think so oh i thought you were to start oh i'm or i'm sorry yeah why are you first of all why am i checkers yeah because i'm chess yeah because you're writing he's just calling it like he sees it will you know what he's just talking about you talk to bateman because you travel a lot you can travel with checkers a little bit easier oh yeah you guys have traveled i want to talk about that by the way how come we've never taken a trip we're going to just the two of us no just the two of us you me sean or you me will um we're gonna do a threesome uh coming up in february get your tickets yes and i mentioned the merch because i did i have i got we each got one of those smartless uh hoodies when we first were coming up with it and the people who made them you're not gonna wear that are you you can't wear your own stuff well this is what i'm getting to so they sent it to the three of us to say like hey what do you think right right and we we all got one and and uh before they went on sale on the website and um so i still have mine and it's hanging in the closet the other day i had it on and sometimes i wear it around the house because it's actually very nice and this is not me trying to say they're really comfy you should get it super cool i actually just put it on and i said to the kids i was like i can't wear this outside of the house ever cause i'm like hey hey look hey there's the guy wearing his own face yeah and did archie and abel say you can't wear it here either get it off no they did it but let me ask you something jason you must have ozark swag do you wear it and you wear it outside of that i give a lot of it away i've got two hats um that i still i keep in my closet for some weird reason like i'm gonna wear them one day which i can't i can't go out you're one of the jason are you one of those like you wear like a panavision hat like hey just ask me if i'm a director yeah a stunts unlimited house go ahead and just please ask what kind of map do you use yeah something like that it was well that's how i felt about this bring we were talking about the segways before remember jason remembers sean when i was in arrested development which was a show jason and i were on which one again you got to see comedy yeah yeah because you like comedy and i use my character used to ride one of those segways those you know personal people single whatever people movers something like that something dumb and i drove that thing around it's really fun to it was they were fun to ride yeah i could never ride it from that moment on because it'd be like hey hey guy are you right in your property that's so funny you know you're gonna think i'm a nerd but like i i actually did like sweater vests before my character jack mcfarland now i can never wear a sweater vest yeah you can never wear it nope yeah and now jason can never wear uh khakis with the sleeves rolled up on his shirt oh wait he does it all the time that's our show bye [Music] really oh yeah sorry wait was that a real buyer by the way i uh i took a little heat the other day we were talking i was talking to some friends and they're like they're like hey are you serious with the buys at the end of every episode what do you mean are you serious like they're they're like saying because remember the only reason we're doing it is because it's the most obnoxious annoying thing it's a joke but i think we're past the joke now and now it's just awful wait wait who by the way it goes it depends on who said it who asked that this is somebody who's not prone to cynicism at all it's actually somebody i was working with uh like a sound sound crew uh like a and engineers at a at a a post-production session when you were doing you were doing a session for hyundai no a different it's a different brand which by the way it's a fantastic car um if you like safety and if you like economy and uh handsome lines um anyway uh so should we should we change that at all no well we've run out of all the pun how about like a see ya why don't we move on to see ya yeah or yeah hang on hang on hang on i'm not taking [ __ ] notes from people i don't give a [ __ ] what they think i i hate when people go you know so i'll tell you this okay for this is my last point and then you guys i was in toronto and i was with our friend shanny this week from toronto brandon shanahan tracy at the brenda shanahan from the leafs game for tracy who's the president of the leafs i love him and and he calls home opener when did you go to the home opener i was at the home opener with my dad yep big nice big win and it was with my dad and a couple buddies and and it was there with shannon we had a nice little dinner before and then we're at the thing pushing through um and so anyway so we're watching the thing and i said you know that shanny often uh after one of our podcast you know episodes uh comes out he'll call me or text me and he'll be like that was pretty good you know what i thought uh when bateman said that was good and i liked when sean like he'll do it like every week we'll talk on the phone he'll have notes so i realized we're watching the end of the leafs game and his brother was there and a couple other people like you know i turned to china go you know what man i go you call me after the podcast and you give me notes on the show so guess what yeah tonight's game yeah i got some notes yeah dude the third i got i need something i need some work i got some notes and did you give them yeah i sure did did he take him has he implemented that's all about puck possession right now i think shawn you didn't right yeah i know puck possession for sure yeah they could just jockey for a better puck position yeah and fortune possession possession sure that's what i said yeah no you did sorry i misheard hey sean serious question if if you were to spell for check would you spell it f-o-u-r or f-o-r-e uh first of all i don't know what that is and that's why i'm asking you it's uh on a on a like a gentleman from prague and he's not cut he's got a four check is that what you're saying now i gotta say bye [Music] [Applause] smart glass smartless is 100 organic and artisanally hand crafted by michael grant terry rob armjarv and bennett barbico smart glass you

Channel: SmartLess

Views: 22,434

Keywords: smartless, jason bateman, sean hayes, will arnett, podcast, wondery, wondery media, dr vivek Murthy

Id: s6G9RoiT7WE

Length: 69min 11sec (4151 seconds)

Published: Tue Nov 30 2021