'Slightly sick!' Royal expert reacts to Meghan Markle 'service' awards speech | Palace Confidential

what's the story behind the paparazzi chasing Harry and Megan are William and Kate getting their social media strategy all wrong and will the king turn off Andrew's electricity we'll have the answers to all of those questions and more coming right up hello and welcome to Palace confidential I'm Joe Elvin and as long as those Royal stories keep coming we will keep discussing them so if you'd like more Royal videos from the best Royal experts make sure you subscribe to our Channel and never miss another episode now back with me today are the daily mails Royal editor Rebecca English and the paper's diary editor Richard Eden welcome to you both and after a very distressing week off for a lot of people the palace confidential montage is back stick to the end of the show to find out who the star of this week's is now we will get to the big Sussex story in a bit but we'll start today with the comings and goings at Windsor Rebecca first up this story of this really tearful and reluctant departure of the late Queen's dresser yes on the daily mail this week we have some exclusive photographs of Angela Kelly packing up her belongings at her home in Windsor she's already revealed on social media that she's going to be heading to the Peak District to be closer to family but she looked very emotional during this um during her packing up and obviously you know it's a big wrench for her because she spent 25 years of her life working for Queen Elizabeth at Windsor and there's a bit of a question as to whether she's going by choice or whether she's being kicked out what I do know is that the King has bought a house for her in the Peak District so she can live there and that would revert to the crown once she's died so will Camilla have an equivalent figure as the queen is you know is it or is it something that Angela could have done for Camilla have her own she's brilliant actually she's a lady called Jackie she's a Geordie and I I love her she's great actually yeah and she actually worked for the late Queen Mother as in Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother and then stayed on and started working for Camilla when she was luscious of cornwalls now stayed on with her as as Queen cranky forgive me how old is she do you know what indeterminate age which looks amazing as you would expect espresso address so she's really stylish and she's just got a great sense of humor with it which I suspect is why the queen likes having her around and there was the reason why I hesitated when answering it there was a bit of chewing and throwing after the death of Queen Elizabeth and Buckingham Palace staff didn't know whether they would be kept in a job people at Clarence House didn't know if they were going to be able to move over and actually quite a few people did lose their jobs in the end but Camilla's dresser is not one of those good old Jackie hanging in there now Richard meanwhile there was an extraordinary story in the mail on Sunday discussing Prince Andrew's fears about being kicked out of his home oh my goodness I mean you really know things have got bad when you start seeing headlines about you know they're going to cut off the electricity well there is a cost of living cut off the water yeah I mean things I I think things haven't really gone the way that the king wanted because I think you know there was sort of it was made clear that the King was onto his brother prince Andrew to move out of Royal Lodge and I think he was sort of hoping he'd say yes fine I'll move into perhaps into Frogmore Cottage where Harry and Megan used to live because how big is remind us how big this Royal Lodge is yeah so rural Lodge is essentially a palace it's it's a mansion at Windsor massive but prince Andrew quite rightly thinks why on Earth should I move you know I spent all my money um doing up this house he's got a I think it's a 75-year lease so he's he's got it for life and I think he's outraged at the idea that he should have to move at all so there seems to be a real standoff and that's what this mail on Sunday story was about of essentially what happens next gosh do you think that Andrew he really doesn't want to move out will he be sitting there with his candles and he's sort of like gas burner if if he uses his utilities it's a great images so where do they go from here the king's made really clear we feel that you should move out and you're saying no way I'm doing that I took on that lease in good faith and I as you rightly say I part of that lease was I expected to use my own money to do up the property and why should I stay but then there are the Optics I mean in this day and age is it right that a non-working Royal should be living in a fabulous 30-roomed house just him and his his ex-wife um you know it's quite difficult to justify in this day and age yeah but also Prince Andrew's friends say you know why do why does King Charles want that house back anyway because think about it if it's going to be given to Prince William and Catherine and their family as has been rumored you know then you would have them moving into this enormous mansion that will have another load of money huge sum spent on it to improve it and that's in addition to the massive Apartments they've got at Kensington Palace so in a way you know Andrew's friend says better to have Andrew and Fergie and family sort of using that rather than all the bad publicity that they ensue from William and Catherine moving in well Sarah Vine the Jenny male columnist wrote and she as usual pulled no punches comparing Andrew and Angela Kelly and saying if anyone should be banished hundreds of miles from Windsor surely it should be Andrew not a 65 year old woman who looked after the Queen's late mother for more than 25 years do we think that's fair I think with respect to my colleague I think that's a little unfair um in the sense that first of all we don't know the exact personal circumstances surrounding Angela Kelly you know perhaps she's happy to move and she's clearly being looked after so I think banished you know is obviously a strong language but Andrew has a right he's got the legal right to stay but one big weapon which King Charles has got um to use if he wants to is all about personal protection that he's agreed to keep paying for of bodyguards for Andrew even though Andrew is not a working Royal so obviously he could say well you know if you don't move out I'm going to stop paying for that and I don't think Andrew has the money to pay for his own protection so that that would be kind of the ultimate um nuclear option gosh this is all a reminder isn't it Rebecca that the king is the king now and you know obviously I know but he's not his mother in that and that realization is probably quite difficult for many people yeah and he has to do things differently there are different pressures on him than there were on his mother in terms of justifying the cost of the royal family the Personnel the houses the people that they employ he's got to look at these things with quite a quite a kind of cold business head and really take family out the equation if you've got a member of the family that isn't working for them for a living how can you justify this well there is more to discuss about the wales's the sussexes and a lot more but I want to turn quickly to your comments now and lots of you had something to say about our discussion last week as to whether or not William should be the one to reach out to Harry to try and repair that relationship Kaza Swan agrees with Rebecca who would dare disagree with Rebecca but she writes people shouldn't bully William into patching up his relationship with the toxic brother if he chooses to do that later he should do it because he truly wants to while Lin gee says forgiveness is one thing trust is entirely another think on about that and like a lot of you Lisa K Perry was delighted by last week's video of the Prince of Wales playing on the Digger with his sons she says I truly think that William was having just as much fun with the Digger as the kids I think Rebecca would agree with you there and if you missed that video make sure to check out last week's episode and after our discussion on whether Charles will be still sharing his personal opinions now that he's King lady shikari that's a fabulous name lady shikari believes that it will be hard for him saying he's a different type of Royal and a different type of King who thinks differently to the late Queen we know the subject's King Charles feels are important and being fair and including everyone is what he feels is important well said thank you very much now please do keep those comments coming in but for now let's get back to my panel and Rebecca a spokesman for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex released a statement last night claiming that the pair and Megan's mother were involved in I quote a near catastrophic car chase what can you tell us about this well this statement came completely out of the blue it was suddenly released by the couple's spokesperson in the US and exactly as you say it was a very emotive statement it said that following an appearance at an award ceremony they were followed by a large number of Paparazzi they described their behavior as being very aggressive they embarked on this kind of two-hour kind of cat and mouse game around New York now overnight other accounts have come out suggesting that while it was indeed chaotic and people aren't defending the behavior of the paparazzi there are police officers both On and On The Record suggesting it it was it was aggressive and it was Troublesome and it was chaotic but it wasn't near catastrophic and I think this kind of debate about it will ramble on but obviously what it has at the heart of it is Harry's relationship with the media I think and the fact that he experienced some some pretty unpleasant Behavior at the hands of photographers when he was a young man it goes back to losing his mother in that very tragic incident in Paris and I think for some people they will understand whatever the behavior of the paparazzi was whether it was as bad as Harry says or whether people believe other accounts I think a lot of people will understand it probably was a very triggering incident for him being pursued by people in that way now Richard all of this came as the sussexes were in New York where Megan used a familiar phrase while she was accepting an award yeah they do seem to have accepted quite a few Awards recently um it's interesting I mean Awards generally are not something which you know the royal family accepts but now they're free of free from the Royal Family's constraints they can accept as many awards as they like and this was an award for Megan's advocacy I think for girls it's from the Miss foundation and she used the opportunity that's Grand stage which obviously has become even more of a story with all the attention about the um you know Chase and everything out outside it's become a much bigger story and this was all about service Her speech and it's been a real sort of eye-opener because you know service is something which we very much attached to the royal family we associate with the royal family and that was emphasized in the coronation with King Charles as he entered Westminster Abbey saying you know I come to serve and not be served and then that was highlighted in Prince William during his speech at the coronation concert where he referred to that in his service and it was something Queen Elizabeth always emphasized the royal family is about service and I think Harry and Megan that's always sort of wrinkled with them in the sense that they think you don't need to be in the royal family to serve and when they quit Royal duties they made that point they came out with a sound bite about Services Universal yeah and Megan's return to that theme of you know we're here to serve but for me I don't know it just made me feel slightly sick frankly because you know said the service their idea of service seems to be about service to themselves service about making money you know they left the royal family to make money they wanted to be free to do so and yes they have charitable interests but they also they mix them up with their personal interests and they always you know they're making money as well as serving and that is that a crime um it's definitely not a crime and it's something that anyone can do but it makes me uncomfortable the whole the whole sort of subject makes me uncomfortable frankly do you think it's too blurred Rebecca what what does service mean in the context of quite a quite non-working Royals well as Richard wrightly says yeah this whole thing was was one of the one of the big issues that they and the rest of the royal family butted heads over over the very acrimonious departures working Royals the lake Queen Elizabeth and I know Harry seems to think she was manipulated in this from what I hear she was very definite about her decision on this that she felt that you could not pursue lucrative commercial opportunities and serve in the way that working members of the Royal Family do she wasn't saying you can't serve you can't do charity work you can't do good things but she was saying you can't do them in the context of the royal family because we are expected to do things in a certain way and someone explained it to me at the time say for example I don't know Prince of Wales went to you know a restaurant the community restaurant and there was a brand of coffee that he happened to be privately involved with would it be seen as a conflict of interest you know they said it there was just it was so many pitfalls along the way if they tried to do that that it just was impossible but as Richard said Harry and Megan really took against this and and issued a really stinging rebuke to queenless Elizabeth saying service is universal we can do it anyway she was just making the point you cannot serve in the way the royal family does yeah that was the difference um and obviously they're you know making a point of saying we can do good works outside of the royal family so do you think that that term used in that speech was provocative we'll probably disagree on this I I don't think it was provocative but I do overly provocative but I do think they do make a point all the time of saying serve service service because this is a big issue for them I think it was pointed it was you know they've got this dual life at the moment where on the one hand um you know like Megan's just signed up with a major Hollywood agency she's looking for lucrative roles and then also they're accepting these Awards and then talking about the service and you know doing charitable work on the side as well um so I think she wants to make a point with the speech and and she did well let's move to the Wales now and Richard they found themselves compared to their transatlantic in-laws this week with their new approach to social media what can you tell us this is a really interesting subject and it's got people talking particularly in rural circles and this is to do with the new videos which some of them quite lengthy one that's like a kind of mini movie of very glossy four or five minutes um and they're really impressive you know they're videos they started with a pre-coronation one and they've been releasing a few over the course of the coronation and since and they've been about trying to show a sort of behind the scenes look at how they are and putting it in a a kind of dramatic form really but it did look like the crown didn't it it look like you know it really did they did but they sort of the reason they've really sort of raised eyebrows is because they're different from what we expect in that sense of being very professional um Sarah Vine who spoke about earlier she was critical she was saying that you know too slick they look too manipulative that type of thing but um the key thing is that they're trying to reach um a younger audience and people who you know are less supportive of the the royal family generally and people who might not know what they're up to about you know good work so what do you think Rebecca do you think I mean I think Sarah Vine was essentially saying it's a bit self-involved and it's taking the Limelight from the king in his coronation which do you think that's fair I I don't I've said I you know I I think Sarah's brilliant but I disagree with her on this I mean I wrote a big feature about this on for the daily mail this week about this kind of social media blitz they're doing and as Richard righty says this is all about engaging with younger people the opinion polls have shown that support for the monarchy is still high but there's a real generational difference uh the support is is is really rock solid amongst the older generation but not so much against the younger generation so the Wales is I've been looking at this for a while and they've really ramped it up since Easter how do we tell our story to these people how do we engage them in what we're doing not just us as people or our families but what the work we're doing the stories would the difference we're trying to make in terms of whether it's homelessness mental health you know education the environment we want them to see and one of the ways that they've decided to do this is to be a bit a bit Slicker with their social media because that's how young people consume their news now days now the gym is still out a little bit on whether this is the right way to do it because these these social media Clips are are almost too well put together there's a lot of jazzy music that goes with it it could be a little bit alienating for younger Generations yeah they're so so much wealth so much gloss yeah I mean to the jewelry I think is still out amongst the wider Royal household but there is support for them trying to engage people in a different way one person who used to work for the Royal household and you know still involved in this said to me I think they've got the right idea but maybe they need to deploy them a bit more carefully you know do a bit of the more authentic day-to-day stuff and employ these kind of freelance video filmmakers to do something when there's something really important to say and Richard according to your column today the king and queen are now getting in on this act listen this is great fun social media is going to catch on we're going to see a competition I wonder you know where will it lead but we have them you know on Tick Tock eventually with rival rival Clips crazy dancers um to be clear what this story was about that it is um King Charles and queen Camilla are now advertising for their own sort of videographer um you know we're sort of saying you know digital guru to come and make their own videos which are likely to be similar you know quite slick but um so it's it's quite amusing but um that's what you know that's what you've got to do if you want to reach different age groups that's interesting you say that Richard because I noticed um late last night a video of Charlton Camilla doing an engagement at coffin Garden yesterday and it was a very similar format it was it was a shot really high resolution there was some kind of groovy music to go with it of them shaking hands kids waving uh Union Jack so it started already and again I was a bit well yeah let's see it let's see how it goes you have to wonder what the king thinks of all of this newfangled way to communicate well made the point in her feature that then they're not on Tick Tock yes and that's quite controversial because the British government is not on Tick Tock and there's lots of reservations it's a you know Chinese originally a chinese-owned company yes um so it's questionable whether the Royals will join Tick Tock but I do love the idea of Charles and Camilla doing a sort of dance you know a dance off with William and Catherine really quite good AI will do it for them maybe you should be their social media manager Richard but they have had hardly try revealed they have had talks with Tick Tock William and Kate's people but I think that was more just to kind of see how it works rather than actually putting their own social media they've already got I think they've got YouTube Twitter Instagram there's a real Facebook channel so I think they're focusing on the channels they've got but I think my kind of payoff line was don't rule it out that you and on that point I should say that you can see us now I was about to say is it daily mail Royal Daily Mail Royals yeah on Tick Tock yeah don't miss it well this week Zara Tyndall said to be the Queen's favorite grandchild turns 42 happy birthday to you baby infant but to celebrate we've dedicated this week's Montage to her thank you [Music] foreign [Music] falcon foreign [Music] [Music] Tyndall there and a reminder that if you enjoy our content do remember to like And subscribe so that you don't miss any of our Royal shows like this one we hope you've enjoyed it we've had fun and thanks to Rebecca and Richard and to you for watching and we will see you next week on Palace confidential bye-bye

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