Silence and Secrets: Charles Spencer’s Very Private School

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>>> TERRIFYING DETAILS OF ABUSE. >> WE WERE LIKE PRISONERS. THESE ARE CHILDREN BEING SEXUALLY, PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSED ON A DAILY BASIS. >> INSIDE THIS ELITE BRITISH BOARDING SCHOOL. >> THE HEADMASTER WAS A PEDOPHILE AND A SADIST. >> TOLD BY THE BROTHER OF PRINCESS DIANA, AND THE GODCHILD OF THE QUEEN, CHARLES SPENCER. >> HUMAN BEINGS ARE CAPABLE OF VERY DARK ACTS. THERE IS NO SOCIAL OR FINANCIAL PRIVILEGE THAT WILL GET YOU OUT OF THE FIRING LINE. >> WHAT HE SAYS HAPPENED TO HIM AND DOZENS OF OTHERS. >> YOU CAN SEE THE SPLIT SKIN. >> THIS IS A FIRST >> Reporter: REVEALING SECRETS LOCKED INSIDE FOR NEARLY 50 YEARS. >> SHE WOULD COME AROUND TO MY BED WHEN OTHERS WERE ASLEEP. >> CHARLES SPENCER'S VERY PRIVATE SCHOOL. >> WE ARE NOW IN THE VILLAGE, THE HEART OF IT AND IT SHAPED MY LIFE. >> YOU GET A VIEW OF PART OF THE SCHOOL AT THE BACK >> Reporter: IT WAS GRAY AND WET THE DAY CHARLES SPENCER TOOK ME TO SEE THE BRITISH BOARDING SCHOOL HE CANNOT BEAR TO REMEMBER, BUT CAN NEVER FORGET.MAIDWELL HAL. >> HALF COUNTRY MANOR HOUSE AND HALF PRISON CAMP. WE STEW HALF TO WALK DOWN THERE TO BE EATEN. WE WERE LOCKED AWAY. WE WERE LIKE PRISONERS. WE WERE PRAY FOR PEOPLE'S BAD INSTINCTS. >> HE SAYS THE WORST OF THOSE BY PEOPLE WAS THE SCHOOLS HEADMASTER. >> OUR HEADMASTER WAS, IN MY VIEW, A PEDOPHILE AND A SADIST AND HE STAFFED THE SCHOOL HIMSELF WITH EITHER PEOPLE GOING ALONG WITH WHAT HE WAS DOING, OR THEY WOULD BE MUTE ABOUT IT >> Reporter: IN HIS NEW BOOK HE DESCRIBES BEHAVIOR THAT WAS NOT JUST BLEAK, BUT OFTEN CRIMINAL. >> THIS IS NOT A BUNCH OF MID- TEEN OR LATE TEEN KIDS GOING THROUGH A ROUGH SCHOOL. THIS IS CHILDREN BEING SEXUALLY, PHYSICALLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSED ON A DAILY BASIS. THAT HAS TO AFFECT YOU. YOU EITHER BOTTLE IT UP AND TRY TO SOLDIER ON, OR YOU GO ON EMOTIONALLY HOBBLED FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. >> Reporter: WE SAT DOWN WITH SPENCER, A BEST-SELLING AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN, FOR HIS INTERVIEW. THIS IS HIM TO HIS ANCESTORS SINCE 1508. WITH THE MAGNIFICENT STABLE AND OVER 10,000 ACRES OF FARM AND PARKLAND. INSIDE, PRICELESS PAINTINGS BY VAN DYCK AND OTHERS. IT IS ALSO HIS FAMOUS SISTERS BURIAL PLACE. >> Reporter: SO MUCH OF WHAT YOU WRITE ABOUT I THINK WILL LEAVE READERS SPEECHLESS, CONTRARY TO EVERYTHING WE THINK ABOUT THE PRIVILEGED LIFE. ALL THE MONEY, THE HOMES, BEING THE GODSON OF THE QUEEN. WHICH YOU ARE. >> I TOLD A FRIEND OF MINE ABOUT THIS RECENTLY AND HE SAID I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE YOU WERE NOT PROTECTED, AS IF COMING FROM THIS INCREDIBLY PRIVILEGED BACKGROUND SOMEHOW WOULD BE PROTECTION AGAINST THE FILES AND SADISTS. BUT THERE IS NO PROTECTION AGAINST THOSE SORTS OF PEOPLE. >> Reporter: DESPITE ALL THE FAMILY'S WEALTH AND STATUS, AS A CHILD HE WAS PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE. >> Reporter: YOUR MOTHER HAD LEFT THE FAMILY WHEN YOU WERE TWO? >> YES, THAT WAS A BIG BOMBSHELL. ACTUALLY, I CAN REMEMBER THE MOMENT WHEN I WAS TOLD THAT MY MOTHER WOULD BE HOME SOON BY THE HOUSEKEEPER. I COULD TELL, LIKE CHILDREN CAN INSTINCTIVELY, THAT THIS WAS A WELL-MEANING ALIVE. I KNEW THAT SHE WAS NOT COMING BACK. AND I DID NOT KNOW WHY, BUT I KNEW THAT SHE WASN'T THAT WAS A VERY TRAUMATIC MOMENT. >> Reporter: IT IS FAIR TO SAY THAT AFTER YOUR MOTHER'S DEPARTURE YOUR FATHER SUNK INTO A DEEP DEPRESSION. >> MY FATHER CAME FROM AND AGE AND A BACKGROUND WHERE THE THOUGHT OF GETTING ANY HELP WOULD HAVE BEEN UNTHINKABLE. AND SO HE SOLDIERED ON, BUT MY MEMORY OF HIM IS A MAN WHO WAS BROKEN AND I WOULD WALK PAST HIS STUDY, HIS OFFICE AT HOME, AND HE WOULD BE SLUMPED IN DESPAIR. HE WAS A VERY LOVING FATHER, BUT HE WAS NOT FULLY EMOTIONALLY FUNCTIONING, I DON'T THINK. >> Reporter: YOU WOULD BE SERVED DINNER BY THE STAFF ON A TRAY ALONE. >> IT WAS SO BIZARRE BUT I THINK IT WAS A HANGOVER FROM THE 19th CENTURY OF THE PLACE OF A CHILD, AND A CHILD WAS TO BE SEEN AND NOT HEARD, BUT HE WAS AS MUCH A VICTIM AS I WAS OF HIS VERY STRUCTURED OLD FASHIONED WAY OF THINKING, A WAY OF THINKING THAT MADE IT OKAY TO SEND YOUR CHILD AWAY TO LIVE WITH UNREGULATED STRANGERS IN CHARGE OF YOUR LIFE. >> Reporter: HIS SISTER BECAME HIS PROTECTOR. HE STILL HAS THE LITTLE COAT HE WORE STANDING NEXT TO HER AT THE LOCAL DAY SCHOOL THEY ATTENDED TOGETHER. >> MY FIRST DAY THERE THE HEADMAN TRYST SAID SHE WOULD NOT SETTLE IN THE CLASSROOM AND SHE SAID GO ON, GO AND CHECK ON HIM AND SHE RAN OUT AND LOOKED INTO MY CLASSROOM TO SEE I WAS OKAY AND THEN SHE CAME BACK AND SAID TO THE HEADMISTRESS, HE IS FINE >> Reporter: BY EIGHT HE WOULD BE ON HIS OWN AT MAIDWELL HAL. HE SAYS HE WAS TRYING TO BE BRAVE IN THIS PHOTO, BUT THAT HIS EYES STUNG WITH TEARS. >> EVERYONE WENT TO SCHOOLS LIKE I DID, SO SORT OF UPPER CLASS TRADITION AND THE MOST IMPORTANT CODE IN THIS VERY FLAWED REGIME THAT I WAS A PART OFAS TO NEVER TO TELL TALES. >> Reporter: THE SECRETS THAT THE BOYS AGED EIGHT THROUGH 13 KEPT WERE DARK. >> EVERY WEEK AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN WOULD BE WHIPPED WITH A CANE AND WE ALL HAD CHORES TOGETHER AFTER SPORTS AND YOU COULD SEE THE BLOOD, THE SPLIT SKIN. SO HE WOULD DO FIVE STROKES BREAKING THE SKIN ON YOUR TAX AND THE SIXTH AS A SIGNATURE ACROSS THE OTHER FIVE AND I HAVE FRIENDS NOW, A CONTEMPORARY WHO IS ALSO 59 AND HE STILL HAS THE SCARS ON HIS BUTTOCKS AND THE LAST TIME HE WAS BEATEN WAS IN 1977. >> Reporter: WHAT MIGHT THE OFFENSE BE? >> MAYBE JUMPING ACROSS, TRYING TO JUMP FROM ONE SIDE OF A FLOWER BED TO THE OTHER AND CATCHING YOUR HEEL IN THE DIRT. MOST REGULARLY IT WAS AN EPIDEMIC AND THE BOYS CHOSEN WERE OF A PHYSICAL TYPE THAT THE HEADMASTER SEEMED TO LIKE. HE LIKED ATHLETIC VOICE AND BLONDE VOICE. AND THEY FOUND THEMSELVES ON THE ROSTER TO BE BEATEN ON SATURDAY MORNINGS AN AWFUL LOT, FOR SUPPOSEDLY FAILING AT WORK. ONE OF THEM WHO WAS BEATEN, I PRETTY MUCH EVERY SATURDAY WHEN I WAS THERE, GOT INTO CAMBRIDGE VERY EASILY. HE WAS NOT STUPID AT ALL, BUT THE HEADMASTER NEEDED TO BEAT HIM FOR SOME REASON. >> Reporter: ANOTHER STORY FROM A FORMER STUDENT, ONE OF THE TWO DOZEN HE INTERVIEWED -- >> HE REMEMBERS THE HEADMASTER. HE WOULD COME AROUND TO THE DORMITORIES IN THE EVENING AND PLAY GAMES, CARD GAMES OR BOARD GAMES WITH NOISE. BUT AS HE REMEMBERED, THIS CONTEMPORARY OF MINE, HE WOULD CATCH YOU CHEATING AND SORT OF ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHEAT, AND THEN PUT YOU OVER HIS KNEE WHERE HE WAS CLEARLY AROUSED, AND FONDLE YOU AS A SORT OF PUNISHMENT FOR CHEATING IN THE WAY THAT HE HAD JUST ENCOURAGED YOU TO. SO IT WAS QUITE DARK >> Reporter: HE SAYS THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS THAT HE THINKS PARENTS BY AND LARGE DID NOT ASK QUESTIONS. >> THE ONLY MEDICATION WITH PARENTS WAS ONE LETTER PER WEEK HOME WRITTEN UNDER SUPERVISION ON A SUNDAY AND THE HEADMASTER WENT BUT OUT THE SUBJECTS WE WERE ALLOWED TO COVER IN THE LETTER. IT WAS VERY CONTROLLED. THE PARENTS, APART FROM YOUR FIRST DAY THERE, THEY NEVER CAME INTO THE SCHOOL. THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED IN. EVEN ON A BIRTHDAY THERE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO VISIT YOU. AND I WOULD SAY THE PARENTS WERE NOT PAYING ATTENTION AT ALL AND DID NOT WANT TO KNOW. I HAVE A THEORY, SO THE OLD MONEY THEIR SORT OF THOUGHT THIS IS GOING TO MAKE MY SON TOUGHER AND MORE SUCCESSFUL, AND THEN PEOPLE WHO HAD MADE MONEY MORE RECENTLY THOUGHT WELL, THIS IS WHAT THEY DO, AND WE WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS SET, SO WE WILL KEEP QUIET. THERE IS ONE MOTHER THAT I KNOW THAT CAME FROM A LESS PRIVILEGED BACKGROUND, AND SHE WAS SO THRILLED THAT HER SON WAS AT THIS SCHOOL THAT WHEN HE WENT HOME WITH HIS BUTTOCKS BEATEN INTO A BLOODY PULP, SHE QUIETLY, FOR TWO WEEKS, TOOK HIS UNDERPANTS COVERED IN BLOOD AND WASHED THEM WITHOUT ASKING A SINGLE QUESTION BECAUSE SHE WAS SO EXCITED TO HAVE HER SON MIXING WITH WELL-KNOWN FAMILIES. >> Reporter: ABUSE CAME FROM SOME OF THE TEACHERS TOO. >> THERE WAS ONE PARTICULARLY VIOLENT MASTER AND HE CAUGHT ME BY MYSELF AND A CHANGING ROOM GOING OUT TO PLAY CRICKET AND HE JUST GRABBED ME AND THREW ME OVER HIS KNEE. CRICKET BOOTS HAVE METAL SPIKES AND HE BEAT ME, PUNCTURING MY BEHIND >> Reporter: SAYING ANYTHING TO YOU? >> THERE WAS NOTHING SAID. HE WAS REALLY DANGEROUS. WHEN I THINK OF HIM NOW, HE IS DEAD, BUT IT STILL SENDS A SHIVER DOWN MY SPINE. HE WAS TERRIFYING. >> Reporter: ANOTHER INCIDENT WHEN, AFTER HIS FATHER INHERITED THE COMPANY, HE GAINED A NEW TITLE. >> I WAS DOING A CROSS-COUNTRY RUN AND SUDDENLY OUT OF NOWHER , BECAUSE I DID NOT HEAR THEM COMING UP, ONE OF THE MASTERS CAME UP AND WHIPPED ME WITH THE ROPE ON HIS WHISTLE, SO IT CUT THE BACK OF MY LEGS OPEN AND I SCREAMED IN THE SHOCK AND HE SAID YOU KNOW, GET A MOVE ON, MY LORD. YOU CAN SEE THE RESEMBLANCE AND ALL I WAS WAS AN >>> THE NBC NEWS MOBILE APP, GET CONNECTED TO YOUR FAVORITE NEWS SHOWS FOR THE TOP STORIES, BREAKING NEWS, AND LIVE VIDEO, DOWNLOAD THE APP NOW. >>> THE SCHOOL AT WHICH I BOARDED FROM THE AGE OF EIGHT THROUGH 13 WAS BUILT ON A LIE COMMON TO INSTITUTIONS OF ITS TYPE, ON THE NOTION THAT CHILDREN WERE BETTER OFF UNDER ITS ROOF, LEARNING TO BE INFLUENTIAL MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, RATHER THAN LETTING AS WE SHOULD HAVE DONE, AS NATURE INTENDED, WITH OUR FAMILIES. >> IN HIS NEW BOOK, VERY PRIVATE SCHOOL, HE DETAILS THE UNTHINKABLE PHYSICAL ABUSE THAT HE AND DOZENS OF OTHERS SUFFERED AT MAIDWELL HAL. >> HUMAN BEINGS ARE CAPABLE OF VERY DARK ACTS AND THERE IS NO SOCIAL OR FINANCIAL PRIVILEGE IT IS GOING TO GET YOU OUT OF THE FIRING LINE. >> Reporter: WHAT HAS TRULY HAUNTED HIM IS BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED AT THE AGE HE WAS IN THIS PORTRAIT. HE WAS 11. THE PREDATOR, HE SAYS, A YOUNG FEMALE MEMBER OF THE STAFF CHARGED WITH TAKING CARE OF THE YOUNG BOYS. >> IT WOULD START WITH HER COMING AROUND AFTER THE LIGHTS WERE TURNED OUT IN THE DORMITORY AND GIVING ANY BOY AWAKE MAYBE COOKIES OR GRAPES AND WITHIN A FEW DAYS SHE WOULD COME AROUND TO MY BED WHEN OTHERS WERE ASLEEP AND KISS ME YOU KNOW, FRENCH KISS FOR AGES AND IT WAS SO -- IF I WAS 17 OR 18 IT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT THING, BUT I WAS 11. IT WAS SO CONFUSING. >> Reporter: HE SAYS IT TURNED INTO INTENSE FONDLING AND HE SAYS HE WAS NOT ALONE. THERE WAS A GROUP OF BOYS SHE WAS SEXUALLY ABUSING. THEY TALKED ABOUT IT AT THE TIME. MORE RECENTLY, HE SAYS HE INTERVIEWED TWO OF THEM WHO TOLD HIM SHE RAPED THEM. >> I AM EMBARRASSED TO SAY IT WAS THRILLING, ESPECIALLY IN AN EMOTIONAL DESERT SUCH AS THAT PLACE WAS AND SHE WAS VERY GOOD AT CHATTING TO US AND BEING FUNNY AND LAUGHING AT THE OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF AND YOU THOUGHT THIS SECRET WORLD IN THIS HARSH PLACE, BUT OF COURSE IT WAS TERRIBLE AND SHE WOULD SET US OFF AGAINST EACH OTHER, THE ONES WHO WERE HER CHOSEN ONES, SHE WOULD EMOTIONALLY SUDDENLY TURN HER BACK ON YOU AND THE OTHERS WOULD ALL DO THE SAME AND THEN SHE WOULD ALLOW YOU BACK INTO THE CIRCLE. SHE PRETENDED SHE WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY TO KEEP US ALL AND I REMEMBER CUTTING MYSELF BECAUSE I THOUGHT IF I HURT MYSELF ENOUGH, THEN GOD WILL LET HER STAY. SO EVEN WHEN I HEAR MYSELF SAYING THIS, YOU REALIZE HOW COMPLETELY MESSED UP THE WHOLE THING IS. BUT AN 11-YEAR-OLD CANNOT PROCESS THIS STUFF. AND THE COMPLETION OF THIS SEDUCTION AND PERVERSION CAME ABOUT WHEN I WAS 12. I HAD NOT HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH THE PREDATOR AND I WAS IN ITALY STAYING IN A HOTEL AND SPOTTED WHAT HAD BEEN IDENTIFIED BY MY MOTHER AND STEP FATHER AS A PROSTITUTE OUTSIDE AND I TOOK MY POCKET MONEY AND I LOST MY VIRGINITY TO A PROSTITUTE. AND I SEE THAT AS THE COMPLETION OF WHAT SHE HAD DONE TO ME. >> HE DOES NOT NAME THE STAFF MEMBER WHO ABUSED HIM. >> Reporter: YOU KNOW IF SHE IS ALIVE? >> I EMPLOYED A PRIVATE DETECTIVE BEFORE TO LOOK HER UP AND I IMAGINE SHE IS STILL ALIVE. SHE SEEMS TO HAVE DISAPPEARED. SHE HAD BEEN MARRIED A COUPLE OF TIMES AND ALL THAT, BUT AND ACTUALLY -- I HAVE NO WISH TO EVER SEE HER AGAIN IN MY LIFE. >> Reporter: THERE IS NO FEELING OF WANTING TO CONFRONT HER WITH WHAT SHE DID? >> IT IS TOO MUCH. THE PHYSICAL ABUSE IS, NOT THE SEXUAL ABUSES. ALWAYS HAD A FANCY ABOUT CONFRONTING THEM, BUT NOT THE SEXUAL ABUSER, NO IT IS TOO MUCH >> Reporter: NEARLY 50 YEARS LATER THE TRAUMA OF IT ALL FLOODS THE ROOM. >> WAS THE FIRST PERSON YOU EVER TOLD WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO YOU? >> A THERAPIST, WHEN I WAS ABOUT 42 >> Reporter: YOU KEPT THIS INSIDE? >> YES. AND HE SAID WHISPER TO ME ONE THING YOU HAVE NEVER TOLD ANYONE AND I SAID I WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED BY A WOMAN WHEN I WAS A CHILD. >> Reporter: OVER THE FIVE YEARS IT TOOK TO WRITE HIS MEMOIR, SOME OF THE FORMER TWO DOZEN STUDENTS TOLD HIM ABOUT ABUSE THEY HAD SUFFERED, OFTEN WORSE, HE SAYS, THEN HIS OWN. >> EVERYONE I SPOKE TO THAT HAD A PARTICULARLY BAD EXPERIENCE AT THE SCHOOL, THEY HAD NOT TOLD ANYONE. I MEAN TWO OF THE PEOPLE I SPOKE TO, ONE WAS RAPED AT THE AGE OF NINE AT THE SCHOOL AND THE OTHER WAS APPALLINGLY PHYSICALLY ABUSED. THEY HAD NOT TOLD THEIR WIVES AND THEY WERE IN THEIR MID 50s. >> Reporter: HEARING THEIR STORIES NEARLY BROKE HIM, HE SAYS. >> RIDING THIS BOOK WAS UNBELIEVABLY DIFFICULT WITH SCREAMING NIGHTMARES AND DEPRESSION IN ITS WEIRDEST FORMS AND TIMES WHEN I THOUGHT I CAN'T DO THIS. AND I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN MUCH FUN TO HAVE BEEN AROUND ME FOR A LOT OF THE PROCESS BECAUSE I WENT INTO DARK PLACES AND I WAS IN SHOCK. >> Reporter: IT TOOK A LOT OF COURAGE TO WRITE THIS. >> WELL I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN I DON'T HONESTLY FEEL I HAD A CHOICE. IT WAS A BOOK THAT DEMANDED IT BE WRITTEN. AND I OBEYED THAT INSTINCT >> Reporter: ONE CONVERSATION WITH A FORMER STUDENT WAS PARTICULARLY HARD. >> HE HAD BEEN ABUSED BY SOMEONE ELSE AND THEN HE TOLD ME ALL THESE TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE THINGS AND I SAID TO HIM, LOOK, THIS IS SO APPALLING, I HAVE TAKEN 10 PAGES OF NOTES AND I SAID THIS IS SO BAD I CANNOT WRITE ABOUT IT AND THEN HE BECAME ANIMATED FOR THE FIRST TIME AND HE SEES MY ARM AND HE SAID SOMEBODY HAS TO TELL OUR STORY. AND THIS IS WHAT CAME FROM THAT. >> Reporter: HE WRITES AT POINTS AS IF HE IS STILL PROCESSING IT ALL, STILL RAGING AT THE LITTLE BOY HE WAS THAT DID NOT FIGHT BACK. >> MY DISAPPOINTMENT FOR MYSELF IS ONLY GROWN AS I HAVE AGE. THIS MEMOIR IS MY ATTEMPT TO CORRECT THAT WRONG SOME FIVE DECADES ON. I HAVE RETRACED THE STEPS OF THE BOYS WHO WALKED BESIDE ME THEN AND HAVE TRIED TO MAKE SENSE OF THE FEELINGS OF THOSE ADULTS WHO LET US DOWN SO TERRIBLY. ALONG THE WAY, I HAVE TO SAY THAT THERE IS A PRIZE AS WELL AS RELIEF BECAUSE I HAVE RECLAIMED MY CHILDHOOD. >> Reporter: THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ANGER AT THE LITTLE BOY THAT HE DID NOT STAND UP. >> I KNOW THERE WAS LITERALLY NOTHING I COULD DO. BUT I DON'T KNOW. I JUST -- I CANNOT BELIEVE I WENT ALONG WITH IT >> Reporter: HOW HAVE YOU TALKED TO YOUR OWN CHILDREN ABOUT THE BOOK? >> I LET THEM KNOW IT WAS COMING BECAUSE OF COURSE IT S GOING TO ROCK THE BOAT A BIT. I GAVE AN EARLY COPY TO MY 29- YEAR-OLD SON AND HE COULD NOT READ IT, HE HAD NIGHTMARES AND HE WOKE UP ONE NIGHT HAVING THRASHED AROUND AND HE SAID I CANNOT READ IT. IT WAS SO NOT WHAT HIS CHILDH I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. >>> ONE OF THE MOST FORMIDABLE TRADITIONS IN ENGLAND IS THAT OF THE BOARDING SCHOOL. >> A FINAL STRANGE TWIST. 10 YEARS AFTER MAIDWELL HAL, HAVING GRADUATED FROM OXFORD THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT MAIDWELL HAL. >> AMONG THE INTERESTING ROLES YOU HAVE PLAYED IN YOUR LIFE, ONE WAS AS A CORRESPONDENT FOR THE TODAY SHOW. >> BRITISH AMERICANS SHARE MANY THINGS, THEIR LANGUAGE, DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES AND THEIR HISTORY. >> THEY WANTED ME TO LOOK AT BRITAIN AND EXPLAIN BRITAIN, PARTICULARLY PRIVILEGED WRITTEN TO THE TODAY SHOW VIEWER. >> YOU DID A SEGMENT ABOUT MAIDWELL HAL. I WANT YOUR EACTION TO WHAT YOU SAID. >> I SAID IT MAY LOOK LIKE THE COUNTRY CLUB FOR EXTREMELY YOUNG GENTLEMEN -- THE DIFFICULT THING FOR AN OUTSIDER TO APPRECIATE IS HOW A MOTHER CAN SEND AWAY AND EIGHT-YEAR OLD CHILD. FOR THE ENGLISH UPPER MIDDLE CLASSES, IT IS A NATURAL PART OF GROWING UP. >> I WAS 23 THEN. I STILL HAD NOT COME TO TERMS WITH WHAT THOSE YEARS HAD MEANT, BUT I SEEM TO HAVE HAD AN INKLING THAT IT WAS BAD >> Reporter: REMEMBERING AT THIS POINT THAT YOU STILL HAVE TOLD NO ONE WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO YOU, WHILE PRESENTING THE COUNTRY CLUB FOR YOUNG GENTLEMEN VIEW. THEN IT FINALLY SEEPS OUT IN THAT LAST-MINUTE. >> DID YOU ENJOY YOUR YEARS THERE? OR IS THAT NOT PART OF THE EQUATION? >> I THINK IT IS MUCH MORE FUN THESE DAYS, WHERE IT IS A COMPETITIVE MARKET AND THEY HAVE TO LAY ON THE ENTERTAINMENT BUT WE WERE BEATEN AND THINGS WHICH JUST IS NOT HAPPEN NOW. >> YOU MEAN SPANKED? >> WITH A CANE. >> THAT IS A BEATEN. >> YOU CANNOT LET HIM GET AWAY WITH SAYING THAT THEY JUST SPANKED YOU. YOU HAVE TO SAY -- >> THAT IS TRUE. THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF STOCKHOLM SYNDROME WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH IT. I HAD DONE MY BEST TO GIVE A NICE PACKAGE TO THE AMERICAN TV AUDIENCE, BUT I CANNOT LIVE. THE AMERICAN VIEW OF THE BRITS, OF THE PRIVILEGED CLASS IS THESE STIFF UPPER LEFT -- LIP REPRESSED FIGURES. THEY ARE RIGHT BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN TO THE SCHOOLS WHERE THE MOTION WAS NOT WELCOME. IF ANYONE WOULD CRY FOR ANY REASON YOU WOULD RUN FROM THEM. IT WAS CONSIDERED SUCH A FAILURE OF CARE YOUR TO CRY, WHETHER FROM PHYSICAL OR EMOTIONAL PAIN. IT WAS NOT PART OF YOUR MAKEUP. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, LET ALONE DO IT YOURSELF >> Reporter: THIS PUBLICATION MAY DRAW HIM INTO A NEW BATTLE MAIDWELL HAL IS TAKING THE ALLEGATIONS SERIOUSLY AND SAID THEY HAVE CONTACTED THE BRITISH AUTHORITIES CHARGED WITH INVESTIGATING ALLEGATIONS OVER CHILD HARM. WE WILL FOLLOW THEIR GUIDANCE ON WHAT WE DO FROM THIS POINT. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE WITH SIMILAR EXPERIENCES TO COME FORWARD AND CONTACT THOSE LOCAL AUTHORITIES OR THE POLICE. WHILE SPENCER'S ALLEGATIONS ARE CONFINED TO THE 1970S, THE LAW IN BRITAIN IS DIFFERENT THAN IN THE U.S.. IN BRITAIN, THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON SEXUAL ABUSE . >> Reporter: SOMEWHERE OUT THERE THERE IS A 70 SOMETHING -YEAR-OLD WOMAN WHO DID UNSPEAKABLE THINGS TO YOU AND TWO OTHER BOYS. IS IT OKAY WITH YOU THAT SHE -- NEVER IS PUNISHED? >> NO, THAT IS NOT OKAY WITH ME. BUT HONESTLY TO GO THROUGH A CASE -- THIS IS MY CASE, AND THAT IS WHAT I HAPPEN TO WRITE AND THIS IS THE WAY I HAVE DEALT WITH IT. >> Reporter: AND IF PROSECUTORS WERE TO COME TO YOU NOW AND SAY -- >> I WILL TELL YOU, I THINK IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE I WOULD GO TO THE TWO THAT I KNOW WERE -- HAD SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH HER AND SAY WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT IT? BECAUSE THAT IS MORE HORRIFIC STILL. IF THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING I WOULD FULLY SUPPORT THEM. IF THEY CHOSE NOT O, I DON'T KNOW. >> Reporter: HE DEDICATES THE BOOK TO BUZZ. >> THAT IS IN THE NAME THAT I HAD IN MY FAMILY BEFORE I WENT TO MAIDWELL HAL. AND THAT WAS THE BOY WHO HAD PART OF HIM SNUFFED OUT DURING THOSE FIVE YEARS AT SCHOOL. I WANTED TO RECONNECT WITH THE CAREFREE HAPPY LITTLE GUY THAT I WAS BEFORE I WAS SENT TO THIS PLACE. >> Reporter: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED? >> I THINK MISSION ACCOMPLISHED IN THAT I READ THIS RECENTLY FOR THE AUDIO VERSION OF IT AND IT WAS VERY EMOTIONAL. BUT WHEN I FINISHED, I'M NOT CAPABLE OF RIDING A PERFECT BOOK , BUT I DID FEEL THAT THERE IS NOT A SINGLE WORD THAT I WOULD CHANGE, AND THAT IS ALL THAT I CAN HOPE FOR.
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Length: 23min 57sec (1437 seconds)
Published: Fri Mar 15 2024
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