She Tried To Turn 2 Boyfriends Into “Human Kimchi”

[Music] have you ever had kimchi before oh yeah every day so kimchi is like the Holy Grail in terms of Korean cuisine I mean we eat this side dish with practically every single meal even with hamburgers even with pasta kimchi goes with everything it's a spicy pickled cabbage dish like if I had to choose to compare it to something it'd be sauerkraut it's fermented it's loaded with probiotics but if you drink kombucha or if you eat anything fermented you know that there is a very strong smell that is associated with it all these fermented foods but on top of that kimchi has garlic and onions it's really it's a strong flavor that's absolutely delicious so typically Koreans will have their own kimchi mixing bowl it's typically this red plastic maybe sometimes almost like a rubberish type material Bowl it's very shallow very wide so you can get up in there and mix all the kimchi thoroughly and it's red so that you never mistake it for a mixing bowl and like start whipping up a fruit salad in there most Koreans are familiar with these types of kimchi mixing bowls they're iconic in Korean households we're getting to the crime okay like just bear with me did you know there's different sizes so like the small medium large you keep those at home those are for home kimchi they've got extra large ones that they use at churches or in Korean schools to make big batches like tubs of kimchi for the whole group I mean I've never seen any one of those personally like the big ones they're not that popular anymore because nobody really has the space for that in their homes and you would need to be really feeding a village to eat out of one of those giant tubs of kimchi like some of these buckets kimchi mixing buckets can be four feet tall with a lid on top four feet tall usually it was used to bury them so it ferments but anyway they're often used in like Korean restaurants to collect food waste so usually like you put the cabbage and all these things in there you seal it you bury it in the ground yeah and then you take it out that's like super traditional um these days you just leave it on the counter for like four days and then you throw it in the fridge yeah that's how you ferment it but back in the day they would need these big buckets they're no longer around but in 2014 in South Korea one of these big red four foot tall kimchi buckets was now sitting in an empty room inside of a morgue most of everything in that morgroom had been taken out they laid down two layers of plastic tarp this was like a double layer project and now all that prep was done the detective stood there staring at this bucket they don't even know how to continue first of all the size of the bucket is overwhelming and they know there's no kimchi in there or at least they hope not the officers try to go through the bucket from the top they're like standing on a ladder reaching in the first layer inside this bucket was a fluffy blanket the kind that you curl up and watch a movie on your sofa with and then when they ripped that off there was a partially decomposing corpse covered in some sort of thick juice and then underneath that they saw some sort of plastic flooring if you will so think of the flooring that you would buy if you wanted to cover up some ugly kitchen tiles inside your rental apartment peel and stick floors so they're thinking okay well now underneath that is probably just a bunch of liquid and maybe some more evidence so here's what we're gonna do we're gonna get another bucket and just pour out the liquid into that bucket and hopefully it's easier to go through evidence that way as they're doing that liquid is just splashing about everywhere the smell feels like it's going through their skin that's how strong it is and then plop they see something round and white tumble out of the bucket it was a human skull and once they saw the skull they saw other bones a femur a part of a spine and right there that looks like a hand the detectives in the room realized at the same time that the bucket didn't just have one body in it it had two bodies and one of them had been in there for much much longer than the other one there were two bodies in the kimchi bucket and one very sadistic killer on the loose and the police didn't know when she was gonna kill again this is the story of the kimchi killer [Music] as always show notes are available at rottenminglepodcast.com I do want to warn you that this case is um it's crazy it unraveled in 2014 in South Korea but the crime itself took place like through 2014 through 2013 and then like a decade prior interestingly enough it's not really covered on Western media so most of the sources that we have are in Korean we had multiple Korean researchers work on this case just so that we could bring you like a deep dive on this one but as always with International cases if there's any details that you want me to know or anything that got Lost in Translation let me know in the comments and side note as with most Korean cases there's a lot of anonymity involved interestingly we do have the perpetrator's full name even though it's not allowed to be published on mainstream media but we have it and we're going to use it so before we get into this case I just want to put a quick disclaimer this one is particularly gruesome it's really intense there's a lot of descriptions in here that I felt like I couldn't take out because there this case was so impactful in Korea and I feel like it's not talked about in Western media but if you're eating if you have a weak stomach this is not the episode for you and I will see you in the next one and with that being said let's get into it this particular child psychologist had um had seen a lot okay his patients weren't just kids that were brought in by her their parents that were like we don't know what's wrong with our kid can you fix our kid please help us Sir with our kid many of the kids that he worked with had seen the more Sinister sides of humanity he worked closely with the police and whenever they called and said hey we have a kid can we send them your way he would say absolutely and I think the most delicate part is that he would have to get the patient to open up but then a lot of them would feel like they're in trouble or they did something wrong or they didn't want to share the details of whatever happened and sometimes he would have to do this by not even asking or listening to their stories but by watching them observing them he would give these kids a meal or a snack and then he would just take notes how a kid eats can tell you so much maybe they reject your offer meanwhile you hear the little tummy scrambling that means maybe they don't trust you or maybe they have a hard time trusting most adults maybe most adults in their life have betrayed them in some way shape or form perhaps they inhale the cookies and immediately they're like can I get more maybe they're hungry and they're dealing with food scarcity at home but he passes a burger to his newest patient and his new patient was a special case this is a boy that didn't exist there is no record of him anywhere this is in 2014. okay yeah that's like 10 years ago but still it's South Korea everything is on the record how did this boy manage to be invisible in a society like South Korea no hospital records no government records no school records nothing anyway he passes him in an individually wrapped burger and he very calmly picks it up opens up the burger wrapper and puts it neatly to the side and the psychiatrist is watching as this little boy breaks off a small piece of the burger but instead of putting it into his mouth he sets it down then he breaks off another piece about the same size he did this again and again until he had five equally sized pieces laying on the desk in front of him he did not speak a single word he didn't even glance at the psychiatrist to see like oh does he think that I'm being weird right now he was so focused he was treating this as if every kid does this as if this is completely normal this is how you're supposed to eat a meal he grabs the original rapper and neatly puts four of the five pieces of burger back inside and finally just eats one piece [Music] the psychiatrist wrote in his notes patient most likely does this as a result of being left alone for long periods of time best guess is parents would come home once or twice a week every couple of weeks and bring food other than that he would be on his own so he learned very quickly to rash around his food if he wanted to make it until his parents came back wow so the detectives are reading his notes and it's heartbreaking but it was also kind of expected you see like considering the way that they found this kid in the first place it made sense let's talk about one of the neighbors a middle-aged neighbor and we're gonna call him Sam okay he was the one to call Emergency Services he lived right above the stinky apartment all the neighbors called it that the stinky apartment the apartment was on the second floor the third floor neighbors right on top of the stinky apartment and the first floor neighbors right below the stinky apartment they had it the worst but every single resident in this massive building they complained non-stop to management that the entire building was uninhabitable because of the smell that was just radiating off of this stinky unit it was so bad that they wanted to walk over and slap a biohazard sign on there but that would be rude so instead they took the elevator instead of the stairs if they for whatever reason had to take the stairs they would do that thing where you pull your shirt over your nose and you start booking it you make a run for it there wasn't a single day the smell did not punch them up the nostrils I mean the entire second floor gave off a stench like the sun gives off heat but that's not why neighbor Sam called Emergency Services I mean he wished he could hello I'd like to report a stench the police would laugh at him he called 112 because there was a kid crying in that stinky apartment all day long all night long and when he first heard the crying he tried to ignore it you know it's pretty standard Korean culture to not meddle in what is perceived as family business so he's like okay maybe the parents are mean maybe the parents are slightly abusive I'm not going to do anything about it that's what he's saying I'm not saying this is right but that's what he's thinking now this kid was not crying like a normal kid he was crying so loud that neighbor Sam couldn't even focus on cooking anything he couldn't even focus on his work I'll focus on sleeping he tried turning up the TV volume he tried putting in earplugs nothing helped this kid would keep crying it was unbearable the noise the smell neighbor Sam said he would plug up his ears and then he would plug his nose and try to breathe out of his mouth but the stinky apartment was so stinky he said he could almost taste it and he wanted to gag he was never rude about it I mean none of the residents were he never directly complained to that unit he actually tried to give them the benefit of the doubt he thought to himself okay maybe they have some sort of health condition and they cannot help the smell maybe they cannot clean some neighbors also have the same thought they actually went once to knock on the door offering to help clean the place up free of charge and the resident never responded now neighbor Sam was at the stinky Apartment Store knocking he just wanted to ask you know if you could stop hitting the kid or being nicer to the kid so that the kid could stop crying like whatever you're doing to your kid can you please knock it out he tries knocking nobody answers he could literally hear the kid crying through the door neighbor Sam leaves and he comes back within a few hours and he tries knocking again this time he hears a tiny little voice on the other side please call my mom I want my mom neighbor Sam didn't even have his not mom's number he barely even saw her in the apartment building so he couldn't do anything he went back to his apartment and hoped the kid's mom would come home that night but she did not the crying did not stop the kid cried for hours and hours sometimes for two days straight this time neighbor Sam was determined to get answers so he gathered up a few of the other residents they stormed the stinky apartment door and they started knocking on it and they hid out of the way from the peephole they could hear the kid shuffling closer to the door and one of the female residents clears her throat sweetie it's your mom can you please open the door I forgot my key can you let me in the doorknob made a little jingling noise it sounded like the kid was trying to open it the doorknob twists right and left but it wouldn't open and the kid starts crying again it's okay just open the door the kid starts jiggling the doorknob again but the door still doesn't open and he tries this a few more times until he starts scream crying and running and screaming I will not open it I'm not gonna open it what their plan didn't work and the kid goes back to crying but even harder so that night neighbor Sam called 112 at 9pm 112 what's your emergency for a while I've been hearing a kid crying in the house next door but I feel like something really bad is going on I mean the kid isn't just crying he's like crying his lungs out like he's dying I think there's something going on in that house when the police get there for a wellness check the kid would not open the door for them either but they could clearly hear him crying and neighbor Sam was right there was definitely something wrong like judging by the way that he was crying something bad was happening so officer June he tries to bust down the door it doesn't work it just makes the kid cry louder so they're scaring the kid now the two officers they call for backup someone brings them a ladder and they use it to climb up to the second floor balcony the balcony door is locked but there's a window that's unlocked and they push it open officer June said he almost fell off the balcony the smell that came rushing out of this apartment unit it hit him so strong he almost toppled over so he's clenching his nose he peeks in through the window he can't even see the floor I mean there's bags and bags of trash everywhere up to the ceiling it's like a hoarding situation they're around the room they're ceiling High there's random things scattered all throughout the apartment like random old rusted shower heads random drawers that have been pulled out of the dresser that are now laying around with old baskets and weird microwaves nearby random Parts scattered everywhere even just by looking through the window officer June saw more flies and maggots than he had ever wanted to see in his entire life yeah inside just crawling around oh my oh my goodness and the kid was still crying how old is the kid eight officer June couldn't see the kid from the window which means he's gonna have to go in and get him like there is no time to call for a hazmat suit he had no idea what state the kid was in if he needed dire medical attention needed help in some way so he holds his breath puts his leg through that window pushes aside a giant bag of trash that has like roaches crawling out of it and he starts walking through the unit he's listening to the sound of the kid wailing and he pushes open a door to the bedroom this was the cleanest room of the house but it was still filthy I mean just imagine roaches and rats all over there were probably only about three square feet of clear floor space But even the carpet looked like it had been defecated on and then vacuumed into streaks there was a bare mattress on a frame presumably where the kid was sleeping but the mattress was brown it wasn't brown sheets it's not a brown mattress it was brown from filth there were more bags of trash in the room and chiho the little boy this is not his real name but we're gonna call him teal he was cowering in the corner of the room he looked well we know he's eight but he didn't look eight he looked incredibly malnourished so he probably looked younger officer June said Chio looked like he was about to faint and his eyes were just glazed over like he was he seemed out of touch with reality is how the officer describes it also another interesting detail that I honestly have no idea what to make of it he said that chio's eyes were super blue so it was actual Iris wear a dark brown color like most of the Korean population but he's saying that the whites around his eyes were almost like a hazy cloudy fluorescent bluish tinted white color so not white not yellow but like kind of like a weird murky bright blue white others would later theorize that he hadn't been outside and exposed to natural light in years so maybe his eyes were adapting to just the blue light coming out of the TV but I don't know if this theory is plausible and I'm not an eye doctor but we have talked about other cases where people have been trapped for years and there has been no known phenomenon or reoccurring theme that their eyes look blue but we did look into it online and it seems as if um if this were true it was probably most likely genetic and it's not really blue it's more like a blue white tint anyway officer June Scoops up little chihole he was wearing tattered dirty clothes and he's taken straight to the hospital and while no sources stayed outright that he was physically abused I mean I think being that malnourished as a kid is basically a form of physical abuse so jiho is left in the care of the doctors while the police start combing through the apartment they speak with the neighbors who stated I mean we saw men come in and out in that unit no offense we never saw like the same guy most of the time most of the time or at least recently I think it was just him and his mom I think I think those were the only people that live in there like full time and since the kid was found crying alone in the apartment the police safely assumed maybe the mom died maybe the mom had a stroke and died inside the apartment somewhere and because the kid was scared he never left he just cried and never let anyone in I mean it's devastating but it makes sense add to that the officer stated that when they walked in to find the little boy they knew someone died in that apartment there is a specific scent that humans give off when they die and we've talked about this before but it's often described as rotting meat but with a very specific very nauseating almost syrupy sweet floral undertone that makes you want to bend over and puke and they smelt that in that unit they could smell it so they're like okay well we gotta go back in and search for the mom because what if she's there I mean the apartment isn't even big by any means I think it was about like 600 square feet in Atlanta that's tiny in New York that's a palace right but it's not technically massive it's not like a 10 bedroom home that they're like we gotta comb through this Mansion right it was just so dirty so covered and filth and random objects and trash piled to the ceiling it could have easily hidden a body side note none of the trash bags were tied up tightly so just think of the um they were stating there was a lot of insect activity coming in and out of those bags they said that their eyes were watering as they're going through the place anyway they're sorting through these trash bags and they open the door to a small room it didn't look like it was being used as a bedroom they open up the door and in the center of the room just in plain view like think about how odd this is think about you going to someone's home you push open a door and this is what you see a four foot Red Kimchi bucket in the middle of the room you're like that in no world would that make sense in my head where I'm not like oh I should ask them what that's for it's so unsettling there's a giant bag of salt on top of the lid one of the officers got up on a step stool pushed the giant bag of salt to the side lifted the lid off the bucket and there he saw a fluffy blanket okay maybe that's okay he uses just two of his fingers pushes The Fluffy blanket to the side half expecting something to like pop out and reach out at him and the bucket was filled with this mysterious thick viscous liquid is how it's described and on top was a floating body part he almost gagged directly into the bucket the bucket was nearly filled to the lid with a liquid that was most likely a direct result from decomposition and because of that they needed to take the whole bucket into evidence to look through it and try and ID the bodies that's how the bucket ended up in the morgue so there were two objectives now for the police we gotta find the mom and they find out through the apartment lease that her name is Lee sejong so they're like we gotta find sejong and then we gotta ID the bodies in the bucket they wanted to start with iding the bodies in the bucket because it was technically possible that sejong was one of the bodies maybe mom is the body right maybe some bad people snuck into the apartment murdered sejong in front of chiho and then stuffed her in the bucket and maybe that's why he's not okay you know I think they knew that that's kind of unlikely but still they have to rule out the possibilities the bucket thankfully didn't have any kimchi in it I say thankfully because not because corpses are better than kimchi but I guess thankful in the sense that there wasn't like a cannibalism aspect to this or nothing was being eaten for human consumption that was like a big thing people were like uh was she making kimchi out of them or like what was happening so she wasn't like making kimchi out of them just want to clarify but there was a lot of liquid in the bucket that was reminiscent of fermentation if that makes sense so I think that's where it gets a little complicated people are like no she was making kimchi she wasn't making kimchi yeah so the officers they had to be extra delicate they had to push like they had to take out the contents from inside the bucket they wanted to save every last bit of the liquid to send it in for testing but they also couldn't just like throw it into bags they couldn't throw it into another bucket it was really complicated officers said that they had to receive intensive therapy after this they thought you know we had seen everything in our careers until this case they had to run their gloved hands through the liquid and look for pieces of evidence so I can't even imagine what that does to someone's psyche ES so the body parts that come out and they Splash on the ground they were barely recognized as human so there were two bodies one was considered a partially decomposed body and then underneath that was some plastic tile like flooring and then a badly decomposed body there was a 20 pound bag of salt on top of the bucket lid but no salt was inside the bucket so imagine the state of these bodies especially with all the liquid having no place to go it was going to be a rough time for investigators to ID the bodies but they knew right off the bat that both of these bodies both of these victims were men which means tiho's mom is alive and that also means since they were found in her apartment sejang is the number one suspect side note her name is technically protected under South Korean law but it was leaked online because of the police so the police put up um it's a long story we're gonna get there the police like did something her name was out in the public they didn't say that she was a killer they went like we want her for murder they were like have you guys seen this nice little ajima so when that happened that's just like free game like her name's out now yes but you cannot like all these Korean mainstream Publications cannot legally say her name but it's out for you know online like you know technically in other countries it's kind of free game and I don't think they're gonna prosecute anyone for it because like you're gonna see what she does so she could have changed her name since then but the police at one point you know they put up missing posters with her picture we just have one clear picture of her because of this missing posters and her name and that's how we know so anyway the police run her records and she is registered as a wife to a Mr Park they're like a Mr Park none of the neighbors mentioned seeing a dad or a husband going around here so what's going on they had been married for the past 20 years but since no neighbors knew of a Mr Park maybe they separated a long time ago and they just never formally filed for divorce because of the hassle or the social stigma maybe they could talk to Mr Park to get some answers on this case release get some insight on Whose hejong is and whether or not she's a killer and who would she even want to kill so they put Mr Park's name into the system which would pull up his record everything driver's license arrest records loans contracts apartment leases insurances phone contracts everything is going to be pulled up anything that's in his name credit card bank account everything is going to be pulled up but the screen was empty they scroll and what do you know everything on Mr Park's record anything signed in his name was dated over 10 years ago he hadn't had a car loan credit card apartment lease filed taxes in the past 10 years the only thing active is still under his name and being paid was his phone bill every single month for the past 10 years his phone bill got paid but other than that he's basically invisible in society which is nearly impossible to do so they pull the records on his phone and his phone actually had frequent activity making calls and sending text but when they run those numbers through the system none of them are people that are related to Mr Park he wasn't talking to other women or any other family members or like anyone for that matter his phone was only in contact with ease head Jung's family and friends and even her co-workers his estranged wife's side of the family that doesn't even make any sense records show that Mr Park and Mrs Lee had a kid okay so you're like chiho no remember chiho has no records anywhere he's like an invisible kid this kid was 27 years old now and living on his own so the police pull up his record and he's got a record so not like a criminal record but he's got like an apartment he has a life that's on the record so he's still around you can't find him yes so the police go and put him a visit and um you know they had to try and let's call him James because South Korea is protecting his identity James was going about his Daily Business when the police knock on his door he was not expecting them he hadn't done anything different lately as far as he knew he hadn't been involved in anything shady at least not for a long time right why would the police want to talk to him hi we're with the police and we're here to ask you some questions about your father Mr Park do you have time James's blood runs cold he hadn't seen his dad in 10 years no birthday cards no calls no nothing and when he was a kid his parents weren't too happy living together like there wasn't any abuse in the household per se but it was just that they had a lot of financial stress which made the marriage tense and then there was the incident they never really talked about it I mean nobody in the family could really discuss it out loud James didn't really like remembering that time in his life a few years before his father disappeared James's younger brother was walking home from school he was patiently standing at an intersection waiting to cross when this huge sand trunk comes down the road the truck was going too fast and the driver underestimated how the weight of the sand was going to affect his ability to turn so the truck topples over right in front of his young brother he was not hit by the truck but the sin Spilled Out like an ocean and completely engulfed the kid on the side of the road and suffocated him to death I've never heard it what yeah are you talking about yeah so James was old enough to remember all of the details of this incident and how it ripped apart his whole family his parents marriage basically fell apart after this his mom blamed his dad for the accident Mr Park wanted to move to this town to be closer to his aging parents and sejong felt like if we hadn't moved something like this wouldn't have happened in her mind it was her husband's fault Mr Park reacted to this guilt and blame by having a lot of Affairs and James said his mom just kind of reacted strangely to everything she started saving everything maybe it was the loss of her child she just wanted to save everything was going to be taken or lost or thrown away even if it was a food rapper with no more food inside she would save it or an old unusable screwdriver that was broken she would save it she would never throw a single thing away and that house turned into a hoarder house that combined with the resentment the anger I mean it caused a lot of stress for everyone and then one day Mr Park just disappeared he was just gone it was just James and his mom left and he told the police I don't know where he is he just left us 10 years ago when I was 17 years old the police kind of felt bad for him they thanked him they apologized him you know sorry for bringing up such painful memories but thank you when they leave James closes the door behind them wondering what the hell is going on like he hadn't seen his dad in so long was his dad in some sort of trouble was his dad back but deep down he knew that there was no way there was no way because his dad was dead and James knew that for sure he had helped his mom drag his father's dead body into the kimchi bucket 10 years ago so if Mr Park is the body at the bottom the badly decomposed body who is the other person in the bucket because a lot of medical examiners stated that person was probably put in there in 2013 like a year ago and how did Mr Park even end up there how who what is going on so lisang was a very interesting woman and by interesting I just mean horrible like just a horrible person when James was 17 he said he came home from school he hated being home so normally he would keep his head down rush into the kitchen get a snack run into his room and never come out right but then he just saw something in the corner of his eye the day that he went to the kitchen it was like a very eerie scene his mom was crouched down as if she was making kimchi she was squatting and Mr Park his dad was underneath her laying on his back on the ground Motionless it seemed like sedon was about to put her arms underneath his armpits and drag him somewhere but stopped because James walked in and she froze and now James was frozen staring at his parents like Mom like what are you doing instantly she snapped out of it and she puts on this whole show your father died of natural causes I got home from work and your father was like this and I'm just trying to take him to the room to figure out what to do next James looked into the room that she's pointing at and there in the center was a giant four foot Red Kimchi bucket look I don't know if she always just keeps four feet tall kimchi buckets as like the centerpiece to her bedroom but from what I can tell that it's not normal especially for people who live in cities it's very likely that she bought this intentionally knowing that she was gonna put it to use one day so James is in a State of Shock and he's thinking is my mom really trying to put my dad into a kimchi bucket right now like this doesn't even make sense it's not even registering in his head and he's trying to talk but he can't even think clearly he can't even think logically he felt like he was out of control of over his own body one moment he's freaking out in his head the next moment he's helping put his own father into the kimchi bucket she kept reassuring him the whole time sweetie it's gonna be okay it's just temporary I just need somewhere to put your father to like and call a funeral home it's just so complicated right now to go through the whole process I don't even know where to start so in James's foggy state of mind I mean it kind of made sense his mom struggled with severe depression and so things that would take people and used to take her like two minutes it would now take her a full day I mean to make a doctor's appointment to go to the doctor that took her like months to just get through and surely reporting a death calling a funeral home like these are things that's going to take a lot of time and that's the thing that he regrets the most about all of this is that he helped put his own Dad's Body into the bucket and now he's technically liable I mean he technically helped her get rid of the body and even afterwards when he has a moment to finally be like okay this is not normal like people don't just do this when people pass people don't do this when your loved one dies naturally in the house there was no way that he felt like he could call the police you say he was 17. yeah he just didn't report it because he felt like okay I'm gonna go to jail and then I'm never gonna go to university I'm never going to get a job I'm gonna I'm gonna face stigma for the rest of my life like I can't throw away my future for this which I know it sounds crazy it's like um excuse me what did you just say but in theory it makes sense I'm not saying that I would do this but the idea that he has is my dad is already dead I'm already grieving his death I didn't kill him he's already dead so should I go ahead and kill my future too I think that's where James is coming from so he stays quiet about this whole thing for decades he didn't say a single word to anybody for 10 years but now the police are knocking on his door demanding answers about his missing dad and he was so scared he lied to them again he knew the minute that they left he should have told them he should have been like okay you know what I was so scared 10 years ago that I never told you guys this but I'm gonna tell you guys now especially because the statute of limitations for what he did being an accomplice to concealing a body is seven years oh so you can't even go to jail if he tells them the truth wow okay maybe he didn't know that maybe he was so scared he just he didn't tell them anything now it didn't seem like James had much contact with his mom like maybe there was an occasional letting her borrow money or like a birthday dinner here or there but I don't think that they were close but here's the thing Lee sejong had two sons one that passed from an accident and then her eldest son was James and now she has an eight-year-old son tiho but Mr park has been in that bucket for the past 10 years so who is chio's Dad could he be the other man in the bucket does she just like to off the father of her children like what is going on according to neighbors and those who news hejung from eight years ago they said no it's not possible according to the neighbors there was a foreign man that came by the apartment a lot around the time that Teo was born they this is before they heard the kid crying so they assumed that this is chio's Dad it was like maybe eight nine years ago and later when Teo was an infant they would see Teo around once in a while and one of the neighbors had caught one of the foreigners like the foreign man and Chio on the way out of the apartment the neighbor just casually asked like oh like are you the dad and the foreign man said yes I'm the dad but they don't remember anything else about this guy other than the fact that his hair was Curly he had big eyes and some sources say that he was from Bangladesh and he decided to move back after his Visa was over so he moved out maybe a year or two after Chio is born sejong is left to raise Teo by herself which I get it it's a hard task like having to be a working single mom feels nearly impossible but she didn't even try to put in effort she didn't even attempt to be a good mom firstly she never let Teo go to school which is illegal in South Korea it is required that every citizen attends school up to middle school and because neighbors knew that she had a kid she had to keep up the appearances because they can report you they're like hey there's a kid that's crying and it's school hours so come get this kid so she tells her local school district that her son is not ready for school yet he's not developing at a normal rate that's what she said which you can use this excuse until the first grade so you can skip all the way through kindergarten with this excuse first grade it doesn't matter anymore your kid needs to show up to school so she does this all through kindergarten first grade shows up and she comes in with a doctor's note and says that Chio has epilepsy so he can't go to this school she didn't say school she said this school she said I'm going to be sending him to a private school that has better resources for a kid like him and that didn't make sense to literally anybody private schools are so expensive sejun couldn't afford it and the public school she was supposed to send to actually was one of the best disability programs in the area the teacher in charge of this disability program was well known in the teaching world as being an expert in specifically teaching children with epilepsy so this would have been the best absolutely the best choice for chiho but sejong refused she said that she could take him to a private school and the principal I believe tried to reach out to her a few more times and around that time teal went under the radar neighbors never really saw him again so up until he was about five years old around first grade year he's out he's hanging out at the playground he's doing his thing and then just nothing gone no crying in me no crying nothing it was so bizarre and neighbors just assumed that he went to go live with his dad or potentially even you know like sejong's parents and then about two years later sejung was kind of in and out of the apartment whenever she felt like it like she would bring in random men here and there and then about 2013 a year before all of this unraveled she had a relatively stable boyfriend he ended up moving into the apartment and the smell had been there since the day she moved in and had only gotten worse over the years which is wild like how does someone come over date someone like that and is not thinking this is such a big red flag so he's dating her he's moving in and sejong she had known this boyfriend from work so they both work at this candy factory they start dating his name is Mr Jung so this whole time that the apartments smells because there's a corpse in there so at this point Mr Park had been in that bucket for like eight nine years and this whole time it there there's a smell yeah and other stuff some people say that she wasn't actually a hoarder and that she was piling up trash to make an excuse for the scent some people say that she was a hoarder and that's why she kept the bodies for so long because I mean you would think that sometime between the 10 years you start thinking okay maybe I should get rid of this body right but some people say no because she was a hoarder she didn't even want to get rid of the body that she allegedly murdered anyway she meets Mr Jung at her Candy Factory workplace and the boss has this crazy world strictly no employees are allowed to date anyone I don't know it's like a weird power tripping reason but the boss is like absolutely not so they fall in love and everyone knew what's going on I mean they're suddenly walking to and from work in the same direction it's very clear that they're dating in October of 2013 the factory boss is like you know what I'm gonna make an example out of them so he fires Mr Jung he's like you break a rule this is what happens I'm not here to play around anymore and this is when it's speculated that their relationship just starts kind of falling apart Mr Jung stays home all day sejong goes to work and she's the breadwinner he's starting to feel insecure he's not a provider sejong takes over his bank accounts changes his passwords doesn't even give him access to his own money and she argued you stay home and you spend all this like frivolous money that you don't even need to be spending when you don't even make money I mean he has no control over his life and then at the end of 2013 he just disappears he goes missing he'd already been isolated from his co-workers his boss was not expecting him to come in because he didn't have a job and even his family I mean nobody really knew until the time he was gone sometimes his family would cause hejong and be like uh what's going on with Mr John like where's my brother and she would just scream into the phone your brother cheated on me and left so don't you ever dare call me anymore it was like a lot so she quickly moves on and she starts dating all these other men and none of them move in though so just like Mr Park saijong's first husband Mr junk just vanishes off the face of the Earth the police speculated that he is the other victim in the bucket so even before the trial or even before sejong's arrest this case is receiving so much national attention people are like you're telling me that there were two bodies inside of a kimchi bucket that's wild that's nuts where is the killer who is the killer the public is putting pressure on the police get the Killer so the police go around and they put up these little misting posters for his Hedgehog and they're like oh my God she's not he wanted for like a double homicide this is so unrelated to the kimchi campus right now she's just a missing ajma and we need to find her because missing ajimas like they're vulnerable they had her full name on there but people are like putting two and two together they're like missing ajima kimchi bucket murders just like that yeah they're like it's uh to me it sounds weird so the day after finding the bodies in the kimchi bucket the police show up at sejong's work and they're like hey receptionist we need to talk to this lady oh her she just left what do you mean she just left like an hour ago you just missed her she said she had some sort of family emergency so the police they'd track her through the CCTV cameras they see her literally leaving work an hour ago running home seeing the cop cars outside the apartment building you turning it literally turning on her heel you turning it out of there and they try to track her as far as they can with the CCTV but they lose her she's like in a blind spot and then she's just gone they can't see her anymore she switched off her phone she stopped using her credit cards there was no way for the police to track her and the cops they had seen so many cases like this okay not like this but instances where perpetrators go off the radar and they know that in cities like this you can't do that unless you have help unless someone is helping you there's no way you can avoid all the CCTV cameras while you're going out not use your phone or card to purchase something unless someone is out going and buying these things for you South Korea is a pretty cash flow Society filled with cameras everywhere even to order food through a delivery service you need to use your real ID which is like your social security number so they tracked hejong's phone before it was shut off and there was one number that you would constantly call at night like who do you call it night you call your boyfriend at night it's always to the same one and it belonged to a foreign Anonymous man let's call him Christopher Christopher was an immigrant from Sri Lanka and he worked in the factory next to sejong's factory where she worked also he didn't just like work in the factory he lived there so he lives in the factory and it made sense because neighbors were like oh yeah she never comes home so like we don't even know where she's sleeping we don't even know why she pays rent here other than to stink up our nostrils because she's like never home so they go to the factory and they try to find Christopher now I do want to mention the conditions in this Factory are like abysmal make sure they get free housing but I'm talking like shoe box apartments that have roaches everywhere it's really bad and it technically wasn't free I'm sure it was deducted from their Pace somehow employees always complained about the conditions but the employers just didn't care they were basically living in these shipping containers that had been split into multiple apartments and there wasn't even like a single window in each one the police arrive at Christopher's room and they knock on the door and he opens it and he's like sticking out just his little face just a crack and the police have an arrest warrant for ease hajjong but they don't have a search warrant for Christopher's house so technically unless he lets the men they have no legal authority to search his home and Christopher just kept saying I don't know this I don't know this woman I don't know Korean well I have no idea what you guys are talking about and no you cannot search my place so they're like fine we'll just come back with a warrant two days later they show up with us with a search warrant in hand and this time something bizarre happens Christopher opens the door Sees the police and lets the door swing all the way open the cops are like okay that's a weird change from the first time they came around where his face was just like peeking through the crack of the door they don't immediately bring up the search warrant though I think that they still want to play nice as he was maybe like a could be considered a viable witness in the trial one day so they tell him hey we're here to talk to sejong and he just kept responding I don't know her you can't come in that's what he said the first time too but it didn't matter because they have a search warrant now right but Christopher kept reiterating I don't know her you can't come in what and his eyes were wide they're like bugging out of his like face and he keeps repeating I don't know her you can't come in and it's almost like he's looking at the Wardrobe behind him what why don't you just just point it just say come in check the Wardrobe what is he doing maybe he's scared that's what the police presumed that he's very scared and maybe the police wouldn't check and then he'd be screwed you know and I do think that there was a language barrier so he just kept saying I don't know you can't come in and so the police look at him and they walk past him he lets them and they're silently looking standing in front of this wardrobe and they're like okay count to three they're like one two three and they slam open the Wardrobe door and there is Lee's head Jung squinting from the sudden light dressed in nothing but her underwear so the police immediately arrest her and side note about Christopher police theorized that Christopher had no idea about sejong's kid no idea about the bodies he was just dating her and then maybe she probably came up with some sort of lie about hey I'm on the run because my ex-boyfriend is also a cop and he's trying to get after me and then he's just shielding her and then probably read on the news that some weird weird stuff was going on he starts connecting the dots but now he's so scared that he's gonna be the next one in the kimchi bucket so he's like what do I do so the police bring her in for questioning and she is ready to talk she seems like a nervous talker if I'm being honest the ones that just keep talk talking until they find themselves in a very uncomfortable situation that's what she was doing that is not a good combination if you are in police custody so getting her to talk wasn't the hard part getting her to tell the truth was the challenging part when she was first attained she kept insisting I did not go to Christopher's to run away I was there to get some rest I was just tired that's all I wasn't running from the law and then out of nowhere she blurts that okay I killed them it was me I said I'm sorry she confessed to both murders but she totally recants everything when she lawyers up just keep that in mind inside note there was one part during the questioning that made the investigators feel very uneasy so unsettling so the conversation would keep going and they would ask her all these questions about like the case and stuff like that how do you feel right now why did you do this and she just kept repeating I'm sorry you're saying that you're sorry yes I'm sorry why did you do it I'm sorry okay so you killed both of them I'm sorry sorry the interrogator said it felt like she wasn't sorry she was practicing which version of I'm sorry sounded the best like imagine someone's acting and they have like one line and they keep repeating that one line in different emotions but like you can tell they're not feeling the emotions it's almost like they're overly analyzing their own Cadence and tone she's like I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry it was so weird so I mean like what is that she's not sorry just trying to learn how humans say sorry like what yeah so people think that clearly she might have anti-social or Psychopathic Tendencies where she doesn't feel sorry and a lot of these Psychopaths um especially the ones that turn violent I mean anyone can turn violent but you get what I'm saying a lot of them mimic humans so they just mimic people they mimic the emotions and that's why you'll like that's why you kind of I don't know I wonder if people get like a gut feeling because you can just tell something is off even though they're smiling at you even though they're saying these things are like something feels a little weird it seems like she was trying to learn how to best say it yeah it was really unsettling they said anyway her final version of events was I came home after work I saw a bunch of officers and I thought my son was dead and the police were looking for me because I left him home alone side note she doesn't even remember chiho's age when the police ask her and so they're like okay yeah we're going to talk about that later but that's not why you're here ma'am can you tell us about the two bodies inside of the bucket the man at the bottom was my first husband Mr Park the man on the top is just a foreign man that I met on the street by chance once I ended up killing him inside my house and I hired another Foreigner to help with me and put his body in the bucket I paid him like a thousand dollars to keep quiet and they're like okay why did you do it and she's like well I'm not some heartless killer you know I'm not some horrible low-life mom who just leaves her kid alone in Phil so she can have fun just kidding but she's like I'm a good person I didn't kill them she states that for her husband Mr Park she woke up one morning just like so happy in love she was she woke up a great mom she could feel it in Her Bones she's like rubbing her eyes look star left her husband is dead this is literally how she's explaining it and she said she kept trying to shake her husband awake but his body was already cold he had died in his sleep okay let's be real if this story is true she would have no reason to hide his body in a bucket for 10 years the police also had his medical records there were zero traces of any medical condition or problem and middle-aged people contrary to some people's beliefs don't just like die in their sleep from old age out of nowhere so why didn't you call the cops why didn't you call the hospital I was severely depressed at that point and the idea of reporting a death calling a funeral home doing all of these things I mean it was so daunting it was just so stressful I just it felt like honestly it felt like a hassle she uses the word hassle the exact word she said she didn't want to deal with it later I think she realized that's a horrible story so she changes it with the help of her lawyer and she says no no I left Mr park in that bucket because I love him so much I can't be away from his bod wow yeah and as for the second body they're like why did you kill the second body and then she goes no no I didn't kill them um well I didn't kill Mr Park but I did kill this one he's a foreign man that's her explanation that is her explanation as if saying that he's a Foreigner's explanation enough inside note this body does not belong to a foreigner and it's speculated the reason that she lied about it being a foreigner was because it um sometimes the Korean police do go easier if the victim is a foreigner which is weird so she thought the police would be easier on her if it wasn't a Korean citizen yeah so it's um it's a lot now the police were able to successfully ID the bodies and the process was really long and creative the fluid of both the bodies were all mixed up in the bucket the first one the one on top that wasn't as far along in the decomp process I mean there were very few remaining skin particles so they tried to draw DNA from that also an autopsy would have been pretty much no use there was a piece of fabric still wrapped around the victim's neck like a scarf so it speculated that he could have easily died from strangulation but that's not enough in court they still needed a motive they still needed to find out who this body belonged to so the police get in contact with the Korean national forensic service to see if they can help and it's difficult the body fluids from both the bodies had mixed and cross-contaminated each other the examiners did find traces of different drugs in the liquid though so one was the medication used for allergies but think like Benadryl one of the biggest side effects is it makes you super sleepy so nowadays doctors will recommend it either if you have allergies or whether you have insomnia and it's an over-the-counter medicine so you don't even need a prescription and then there was high blood pressure medication that was found in the fluid this one is a prescription medication and it's not just used for high blood pressure some doctors will prescribe it for depression and anxiety but it's not the most common drug to be used for that but it happens now the theory is that tejung drugged both of the men in the tub to kill them and then dragged them in there as for the identities it was you know confirmed that it was Mr park at the bottom but they had to just get that DNA confirmation and the other one they didn't have the confirmation so this is where investigators they get really creative and they got really lucky so the bottom body presumed to be Mr Park he that would have been the biggest obstacle I mean he had been dead for 10 years most of his body was just soaking in liquid miraculously though miraculously one of his hands was above the liquid like reaching out towards the top it looked like he was reaching up for the sky and a small like a few of his fingers didn't Decay as much that meant they were trying to run fingerprints wait this is from the top bottom bottom really after 10 years top was pretty easy to identify wow after 10 years they still can run fingerprints so they had to get very creative they cleaned off the thumb trying to recreate the fingerprint they had to put the thumb under pressurized hot water to kill as much of the bacteria as possible and get a lot of that liquid from out of the grooves of the fingerprint but they did make sure that the water wasn't too pressurized or it would destroy the sensitive skin because imagine just like soaking in liquid for 10 years your skin is going to be practically like a schlop so once they examine the sorry once they cleaned out the grooves The Examiner tied a rubber band around the thumb below the joint and then they carefully injected air and hot water into the thumb using a small needle so this had been in the liquid for 10 years so it was shrunken misshapen very pruney so they had to inflate the finger pad so while it's bloated The Examiner would try to record the fingerprint and the rubber band worked to keep the air and water inside but it wasn't a perfect solution they had to try multiple times but sure enough it was a match to Mr Parks hejong's husband who went missing a decade ago the body on top was easier to identify like I said they lifted a print um a fingerprint and it was Mr Jung the co-worker so now with this said John couldn't lie that this was a foreigner and she starts coming up with every excuse in the book and she's like you know what I came home from work one day and he was drunk out of his mind okay he was drunk out of his mind he was belligerent he was fighting me we were yelling screaming I tried to walk away but he kept drinking and he kept yelling so I told him here take this I gave him some medication that I have for insomnia and I said you know what just sleep it off and talk in the morning when your head is clear now this medication think Ambien this is available only with a prescription and it was prescribed as hejang an Ambien it slows down your nervous system so that you can get some sleep but if you mix Ambien with alcohol it's a huge No-No doctors will drill this home when they prescribe this to you mixing the two can cause your respiratory system to stop working like it should and you can suffocate to death would have known that because she's the one that's been prescribed that it's unclear if she did the same exact thing to Mr Park 10 years ago but he took the medication got really weak got really drowsy he was out of it and I genuinely thought I'm sitting there like okay she's gonna say that he died she didn't know that he died she didn't know that the meds would interact with the the alcohol in a system like that because that's what this all sounds like a setup for doesn't it instead she goes he knocked out and I thought it was the perfect opportunity to start choking him to death huh does she come first yeah she choked him to death and then threw him into the the kimchi top on top of her husband she didn't get help like you said now there are allegations that she had help from another boyfriend of hers or somebody else but the police have come come out and said that there's no evidence of it so she admits to killing Mr Zhang and refuses to admit to killing Mr Park and all of this goes to trial and the police want to charge with sejong with the murder of both of these men so August 14 2014 trial starts and sejong shows up in court and everyone's kind of freaking surprised she is just a normal ajuma middle-aged lady like just looks so normal like your typical Korean Grandma not even grandma just like Mom at H Mart people even questioned if she could lift a body and put them into the kimchi bucket herself she didn't even look strong enough which the police were one step ahead they actually made her do a reconstruction for the crime and sure enough she was capable of lifting Mr Jung's weight above and putting him into a container that had that was four feet tall in court she just repeated the same thing that she told the police that and that she never ever killed her husband Mr Park she just kept repeating that she loved him so much she couldn't dare apart with his body there were some moments in the trial though where it seemed like maybe sejong's lawyer was putting their whole back into this case because for example all the neighbors were called in to testify about the stench coming out of the unit alluding to the fact that she had two bodies in a kimchi bucket in her apartment and it was so blatant she didn't even care that she was ruining everyone's quality of life nor nor the fact that even for the slightest bit she someone could have looked into her because of that scent well when the neighbors got up on the stand to testify about that god-awful smell coming out of her unit the rest what about the poopy plant next door Spectators are like what what did they just say what poopy plant the whole apartment building is right next to a soil plant that specializes in natural fertilizer in other words they live next to a factory that takes animal feces and mixes it into dirt to make really rich fertile soil and packages it into bags to sell for gardeners so that factory is literally the whole neighborhood literally smells like hmm but honestly the neighbors were prepared and they said that actually further proves our point the whole neighborhood smelled bad we knew that moving in this wasn't new to us that wasn't a deal breaker but the fact that we could stand the smell of a poopy fertilizer plant but not herd unit should tell you how bad her unit was so in February of 2015 the court requested that sejong received 24 years in prison for her crimes it was sent to the higher courts in Korea and she received 18 years in prison instead yeah the public was pretty pissed about this they wanted the Supreme Court to explain themselves and everyone was really disappointed they wrote online our legal system is crazy like 18 years seriously we need to rip apart the law and rewrite it for two people's deaths and an entire kid's future 18 years that's way too low side note Chio has been taken from his mom's custody he's in a child home that provides him therapists and psychologists for his trauma he was eight in 2014 so he should be about 17 years old now yeah and I just hope that wherever he is he can lead a happy fulfilling life now the courts they stuck by their decision which means that she's going to be getting out in 2034. she's going to be 73 years old but a lot of people say that is a different kind of killer you know age never really stopped her her physical strength never really stopped her so who knows if Society is safe from her even though she's 73. I don't know what are your thoughts on this case do you feel like the sentence is Justice served do you think that this is another case of Korea giving more rights and protections to the perpetrators rather than the victims do you think she got off easy because she's a mom and she looks like your stereotypical algema let me know in the comments but please stay safe and I will see you guys on Sunday for the Minnesota bye

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Length: 62min 12sec (3732 seconds)

Published: Wed Aug 23 2023