Shan Boodram | Club Random with Bill Maher

love random how are you I am doing oh thank you I made a berry Christ I'm very grateful that you are affirming these because I was deciding between Bare leg or Boot and it feels like boot was the choice for you wow but there's something about a boot that's a little more I mean most boots are not like fit over you like a skin that is true and that's a different kind of boot yeah these are stand-up boots they're not walk around boots right yeah we're not going for a walk around your property after this this is as far as we're gonna go but in the meantime it's very nice but uh I could certainly I know your background a little bit I think I could say this to you but I'm also Canadian and Canadians are very strict about shoes in the house I just had William Shatner here you know if she can just act as if that happened it was the most phenomenal date I've ever seen in my life me and him yes you were mirroring each other your body language you were affirming each other you nagged each other it was like such magic to watch I thought to myself thank you if you were sexually attracted to him would that not be your ideal long-term partner that's a lot to bite off there uh Shan I no I I mean I I can't even imagine William Shatner in that role in my life but men can love each other for sure and it's funny the way you know he and I it's interesting you know you Circle someone for years decades you sort of know them you know I always say in Hollywood people ask they think you're you know friends with everybody in Joe business I'm always like well there's friends in this friend Lee yes a friend to someone who I purposely make plans with I have their phone number I can confide in and then this friend Lee we have been friendly and now we're friends you sat on his lap out the gate so that just sent a very different message maybe the tone that you said but it was just like I knew we didn't want to get up so I'm trying to be I'm always trying to be a good host you know I mean I have many flaws I can't accuse me of ever being like great at commitment or anything like that but I think I'm a good friend and a good host that's my story and I'm sticking to it but I think he was so curious and you were curious in return you learned from each other you had disagreements but they were civil I feel like in the end it was just a very beautiful yes date because it's you know and we talked about age in there and there is something about being older enough to like have confidence in so many things that you don't when you're young like I'm just going to be honest with this person I'm gonna trust it's not going to be offensive to them in fact they're actually going to be compliments you called them beefy in the first few minutes that was a bold move beefy is not I don't that's an egg well I I feel like when you're 90 it's it's good to be beefy I think so too you know what you don't want to be a skeletal he looked buttery to me that's when I saw him and I mentioned that but it's the lighting is very flattering in here and I was like he looks very buttery what is buttery you know smooth kind of like you know gelato when you go and you see them and they're scooping it for 90. he looked yeah he looks scoopable I just kind of like sleep in Sephora he does look phenomenal we got to go to Target we got a man crush on him I loved I loved it and it was fascinating too to me because um I when you're a sexologist when you study sex you have to do something every few years called Asar which is sexual attitude reassessment and it's three intensive days where essentially you watch various kinds of porn for lack of a better term you watch all these different erotic materials so that your sensitivity is increased so that if you tell me that you like your dick stomped on with high heels and that's what you like about these boots I don't well if you did I wouldn't have a reaction would be like right I'd be like okay I'd have a reverse reaction like wow that hurts my dick well it depends on who's stomping and how they stomp no I don't think it depends on that at all I think anytime you're getting your dick stuffed on it's bad the people who I've seen had at Staunton before look like they were enjoying it and I think that there's a if there's an even distribution and they actually don't do with the point it's more of like the pressure itself so I guard my dick like you love those boots okay my dick is not getting stomped on I don't care how high well you can stomp on these boots that's uh I don't guard them that much you are not stomping on my dick but in that course that I just did and I did it a couple months ago we had a pup play that I watched and a section on aging and sex so it was fascinating to watch that because I was like oh I've just had references for these pup play now both of us were a little confused out of our depth there pup play why don't you hit me with what that's really all about when you see it it makes perfect sense because like play fighting in sex no never I don't do anything kinky in Sex and I don't miss it you know I don't want to choke you I don't want to slap you I don't want to come on your face doesn't anybody just anymore well pup plays on the opposite end of the spectrum everything you just suggested right so I don't want to do that either I don't want to dress up as a squid I don't want to be a rabbit you know I just want to why is if you're doing it right I feel like you don't need all these bells and whistles and also they never change anything I mean no matter how many wigs you put on you know it's it's the same dude and the same woman you know it's like the wig you can't fool me with the wig it'd be great or if you're a pirate or like tonight I'll be the hooker and you be Charlie Sheen you know whatever it is that you think you can pull off it's like you're kidding yourself I think but maybe that but maybe I'm limited I don't think I mean there's something beautiful about just appreciating I always say this about um when I met my now husband I was looking for a buddy and I was auditioning dudes to see like who did I feel had it and there was something about him like in an actual office more or less I mean it was my studio apartment at the time so it was my office it's technically you look at their head shot exactly and you'll be like special skills come on no legit I'd just play Beyonce I'd wear a sports bride wore track pants I'd have dudes come over we'd make out and I just kind of get a Vibe usually I wish I'd got that casting call it was a good time in my life um and what I liked about him and why he ended up becoming my buddy is he was fingering me and the look on his face when he was doing it was like no flow it was like a painter so an artist an artist I always say it's a you're painting or conducting a symphony that no one else will ever hear and if it's good it never it doesn't really sound like any other Symphony that's ever been performed because it should be I mean the ACT should be an artistic expression and like there should definitely be no planning like my friend uh Carol Lee for a great comedian uh she used to have this great bit about marriage sex she said it's kind of like a a Cha-Cha you know I do this to you then you do this to me that I do this to you then you do that and that's what sex I think often devolves into after you've been with someone for a while and that's what you want to avoid I think is you know and of course that's where drugs come in that's why I agree with you you didn't mean that no it's Clover cigarette that's the correct term right it's a club cigarette okay that was new for me um but what I what I will affirm what you were saying in that if you are authentic it's different every time right because I'm responding to mood my day right and if you're actually into the person still yes you know I mean you you know unfortunately passion dies in most relationships I mean people have all these different methods we're just talking about wigs and to like you know basically throw a lifesaver to this drowning part of the relationship right I mean it's drowning it's it's dying and like oh maybe if I throw at the wig or whatever the you're gonna do but it's very hard to arrest that uh you know Evolution toward less less spontaneity and less like spark that makes you have that great perform that Symphony that's ever been done before and and wind up doing the you do this to me and I do because I always say there's only so many in the can I don't know it could be five it could be 500. you mean in a lifespan or with any one person there's only so many in the can and then come on I know there's one more in there that's what you're doing I and and uh I don't know if anyone can beat that spread I know we have many ways of trying and uh I wish you luck I think what do you have you're not a throuple but an open yes well open is another way of saying you know we're not yeah I mean that that certainly one way to keep the uh interest higher I think it definitely is that for me but I think that when sex becomes more than just a way to get off and it becomes a place of Freedom like this is a space we're so domesticated right the way that we're sitting right now the way that we're talking you know we're not if you said to me my back hurts I couldn't just go over there and start rubbing your back right there's all these rules for how we're supposed to behave so you have this one place it wasn't if that's how you blow somebody that's why you never had homosexual experience because that was no good um you're right that if it's the space that you can be free and authentic and make crazy sounds and those desires that you've had that you've been repressing all day long you can let it out with this person if it comes to space for that that's where the wigs and the puppy the pup play and the howling make perfect sense okay have you ever howled before howled uh you mean like oh yes like the the dog like the dogs do when the fire engine goes by yes no I don't feel like I've ever made that sound or know why I would but you did well just now I I love it when when dogs do that to a siren I just think it's the most adorable thing howl before when I was sad so when I watched the pup play like that well from the depths of my soul I can't perform it right now I'm not an actor but it would be like you know like that deep howl that animalistic howl so when I watched the pup play you know erotic video and they were howling together during sex that was like I get that I get why somebody would be interested they were both howling yes or you could just howl by yourself if that was your preference but I think again it takes a lot of energy away from the parts that really feel good you know like oh but like that's not really it's how is that adding to like that you know what's going on in my balls are you silent no not silent and it's interesting you bring that up because back to the issue of like when relationships start dying get into that place no you're gonna it's the bottom of the ketchup bottle or the Pringles can that's what you're yeah um is that like when I'm turned on I can't stop words coming out of my mouth and when I'm not I can't make them come out of my mouth in other words it's almost involuntary authentic that's great that's you can't get much more authentic than involuntary yes there are times when I wished I could have made words come out of my mouth because I thought oh this isn't good I'm looking it's not you know it's not Community communicating I I think it's so great when you can communicate am I decoding dirty talk what happened dirty talk is that what you're saying no no not dirty talk I mean real talk real talk to not like oh baby baby you know and you don't need to tell me I have a big dick or whatever you know I don't need to hear it I need an example because if you don't howl no you make sounds but you talk talk but again if it's completely authentic and happening in the moment and inspired and that Symphony how could I tell you what it is now I don't know I'd have to be having sex with you to to approximate it I can't that wasn't my way I promise maybe if we were right now I promise that was not what that was about I'm just telling you that's the truth so I can't give you an example but it whatever it is it's like what I'm actually feeling at the moment is that a genuine response you really cannot remember what you say or what you sound like during sex oh I didn't say that exactly I said I can't do it I'm not going to do it now because it's like yeah I actually can't you're right I can't I can't think of an example because it's happening in the moment one thing I like about sex is that mostly I'm too analytical and everything is happening in my head and if I'm turned on and you know high on liquor the legal drug that I do um then I'm sort of out of my head and that's like a great relief for me it's very hard to achieve that but you know again it's not if it's planned or in any way uh known beforehand what's going to happen then it's no good and it's hard to maintain that I mean you know again it's very easy to slide into I do this to you and you do this to me but everybody's trying to get to that place that you're at which I'd like to be curious about when you got there because to get to that place where you're being genuinely authentic and you're expressing yourself and you're letting all your Humanity out and receiving pleasure and giving pleasure and you're so in flow that you don't know what the happened afterwards right that's where everyone's trying to get some people need to put in a wig to get there some people need to pretend they're a puppy to get there right so that's what I mean like sex positivity isn't like oh there's a certain good way of having sex it's like getting to a place where you get to be in full authentic expression of yourself as a sexual beast and you give space for others that's it and you've achieved that you just didn't need I did I mean like I'm look I'm not hip with sex at all because like the thing you're doing with open that could I could never it's like very hard to like uh I mean threesomes I've always thought were like better for the ego than the dick uh they reminded me listen to me I'm remembering all my old comic buddies bits but Paul Reiser he used to have a bit where he talked about showering with someone not with two people just with one person he was like someone's not getting enough water and I always felt with a threesome someone's not getting enough dick you know and there's no way to sort of like get around that and I'm sure there are people hipper than me but it's like I don't wanna I it's just too much work it's just it and sex is so brilliantly designed as a one-on-one that to it's just so complicated and you know it's hard for one person not to get jealous of you know all they have to do is see you like look into someone's eyes or you're which is you know if you're not going to do that what's the point of although there are people who plenty of people who without looking into each other's eyes well anything that you're not married people no I'm kidding you're not in practice of doing is going to seem arduous and hard and like anything that you're not in flow of right it takes thought process so your idea of giving fellatio is very different from what it's actually like but if you were more in practice and More in flow then it wouldn't feel like what do I have to do next to go to my knees have to do this so if you're repeatedly having threesomes or multiple partners then of course then you'd become the second nature no Oh I thought you were in an open relationship well here's the thing our definition of open essentially is we don't police each other's desire I don't police his sexual needs he doesn't police mind and as a result of that we have the option we've been married for three years now we have a kid I'm pregnant again so we haven't engaged in a while but even at a certain point in our marriage when we were first getting together we kept trying new sexual things he said to me like hey you know it's a long life we don't have to try to jam in every fetish every toy every tool Will Wait so open to me is a concept in a way of life that if I was propositioned by the right person if I had an incredible date night like you do with William Shatner I might be like let's ask him if he's down this feels fluid and natural speaking of jamming in I don't even no I said Javid but let's go so you're pregnant yeah yeah okay so like are you gonna have sex throughout the pregnancy yes really yes okay it's number two for me so I've been doing this so yeah absolutely yeah Oh I thought yeah okay um I think you said never I thought we might you're doing it in the ass sometimes Okay so and he likes it during pregnancy too this actually was a place of contention because we talk about our relationship a lot together and we I love that about my partner that we get to have that experience so we were talking uh when I was in a third trimester last pregnancy and I asked him I was like Hey like are you like what's going on like you're not really initiating anymore I'm like is your sex drive low because I went through low sex driving first trimester I totally get it like is your sex drive low or is your drive to have sex with Milo and he's like oh my drive to have sex with you is low a Sex Drive is the same and I'm like keep a straight face because be inviting for this discussion it is a very honest partner that I have I mean and that's uh not to interrupt your story but I guess I did but that's such an interesting choice to make in her partner like I like honesty but it can sting it can definitely sting but it feels great when you hear a really great compliment the right person is a strong person takes the honesty and you and it's going to be a better relationship so um so that's good that you're the strong person who can do that yeah because then I asked to say well what are you doing and he said I masturbate I watch porn and I said oh well like I why didn't you tell me that like why don't you communicate that with me and he's like it's kind of a private thing that I do and so that was a tough conversation to have but it's an open relationship but when you can't have sex with you he masturbate this is a shitty open relationship no this is actually you know it's a place of I'll actually say this though too because I'm pregnant again in first trimester I was so sick I didn't want to have sex and so I asked him I was like Jay because on top that we have a baby I was like I beg you to get a buddy because I don't even want the responsibility or the thought of the responsibility of that but this is where societal conditioning comes into play so much as well where he's like I can't do that while you're pregnant because I would feel I'm away the whole concept of buddy I find a little scafy because not that it can't happen but sex engenders feelings it's like it's pretending that we can without feelings you know and there are only some people who can do that they're called men no um and many men can't yes I can't yes you know it's it engenders feelings yes I mean it's so like a buddy it's like so easy it's so funny the way you know women are always like no just go out like like it's so easy like they women think that every other woman is a giant just like every other woman in the world is just giving it up so easy and I just wanted to say to them you're like none of you have racing none of you were easy well no people are easy in general but I obviously you don't have experience being intimate with people with penises so in your experience right now but speaking of penises I gotta ask you said you can have sex while you're pregnant yes so I don't want to be in delicate but like the babies in there gross and then this Dingus is like banging right up against where he's trying to get some sleep you're being real generous to my man right now and he would love you for it but I mean certainly the the little thing in there it's gonna feel some if there's if there's some prick dick slung schmuck a Peter's a pecker a dipstick a dingus a Samson a tool something coming in he's got to like feel some vibration or like some you know it's on right it's like in an apartment where you could feel people right on the other side of the wall well you can I can tell they're cooking brisket this kid is gonna know that the thing is trying to bang on the wall hey keep it down in there baby that's what it's like it's like the neighbor but it's a dick this is exactly why he did not want to have sex with me in the third trimester so you were voicing exactly what he pictured you know to me and he also as well because I'm so accustomed to the belly so I would we would be getting like you know kind of intimate in the shower we're also not shower sex people but we'll get like it started in the shower so we're getting it popping in the shower and then I would be like oh the baby moved and then that would take him out but for me it's a fact of life it's a part of my body but for him it became exactly how you just described but no there's no science to say that the baby's sleep is being disrupted or there's issues are going to have a hearing problem on one ear yeah well it's just there's nothing like that if anything it's beneficial I just think if in case there is cognitive something going on when the baby is in the womb and I guess there is some to some degree I mean people play Mozart like in front of the pregnant belly because they think the baby's gonna I don't know be smarter smarter or something so there obviously is this idea that the baby has some some kind of mental Powers going on in there I'm just saying maybe it would it could disturb him it's a disturbing thought that you know a giant ramrod well you're taking your adult brain and putting it onto this little tiny field yeah that's true he doesn't know what it is they don't know they just know that there's some there's feel good somebody in 3B keep it loud's happy that's what they know right yeah so when you you certainly don't look pregnant yet boy August I got some time yeah August when's your birthday my birthday is January happy birthday just does that do you believe him I do not know I don't either great great yeah yeah it's a it's a it's a firm actually as I had a child it became more of a dislike for me because people started to tell you about your kid that you just met two seconds ago so it's absolutely impossible I find to find anyone under 30 who does not believe in astrology but I can't judge too much because when I was under 30 I did oh did you well I certainly did not believe it I remember I met some people who were like very serious about it like you know they do charts for a living I mean they did my official chart you know the oh it's not just about your sun sign we have to like find out what all the planets were at the very moment you were born I remember telling them it was exactly at 10 32 at night and you know they said well you're exactly on the cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius and like you know they're and then of course it's suggestibility you know if like oh you know have you ever wanted something you couldn't have yes why yes I I have you know yes or whatever you're you could fit it in you know this is beware of problems this month I do have problems this one I don't know I appreciate it because it gives people the language to describe intimate parts of themselves and we don't get that anywhere else so I like meeting people who are into astrology because often they might have the language and the tools to say like specific things about themselves but I think that there's better tools out there um and yeah so as somebody who's a non-believer had my chart read for the first time which was uh the perfect non-believer experience I had because a person who read my chart was like this isn't crazy I've never even met somebody whose chart is so specific to their birthday you were actually destined to be a sex educator which I do feel like wait by myself you are destined to be an intimacy educator your Venus was in Mercury and your salad was on the dressing everything was working and then I'm listening I let my eyes scroll up to the top of the page and I was like like wrong birthday and I was like that's perfect it was perfect yeah but not to knock it because I think it's great so so what is a sex educator what do you do all day well I'm a public-facing sex educator so what happened public facing which means unlike Martha Stewart for sex right so I'm not in somebody's there's a difference between sex education it's a wonderful job do you remember Dr Ruth are you too young this is my literal bio is that I'm Dr Ruth Brianna a hot young Dr Ruth yeah what a great bio to write for yourself thank you because there's always a need for a doctor Ruth yes there was also a Dr Joyce Brothers do you know who that is no Google her get out your magic light box okay not right now I don't have any uh Pockets so it would be not impossible um but when you get home Dr George because she was a little before Dr Ruth but she was this again they always have these people with you know they're like perfectly clinical that's what makes them allow allow them to say things about sex back especially back then was not what we were accustomed to see on TV TV was very tame before I mean you couldn't say ass I remember Johnny Carson Ed McMahon trying to like we're gonna work around not the word ass you couldn't say fart I said sucks like the airport sucks in 1983 and it was like a scandal and then he was saying it two days later I broke the barrier on the words oh look at you trendsetter yeah exactly I know what a flex right it's a flag I said sucks on TV but it's true that's how tame it was but you know when you had a doctor doctor you know uh Dr Joyce Brothers and you know she could say well if the man's penis is in your mouth it's like otherwise they'd like lose their I said somebody said that but they could get away with it and Dr Joy's Brothers was a little before Dr Ruth but it was the same bit she was a little more broad it wasn't just sexy part of your like 11 p.m wank Bank TV she was just on every show like talk shows need bodies and you got to fill seats and you know as I've known for 30 years now booking shows um people not everyone you want that week is available you can't subpoena people to come on your show you know you don't get William Shatner all the time they have to want to do it yes um I'm glad you want to do it no I mean this was one of those things where I was like I had to like Google I'm like is Bill going down like how am I getting booked on this like that's that's me having not enough self-confidence it's fun to be here it is incredible to be here I've been so different than my I mean I I would never ever as long as they want me leave my real show because that's to me that's the real show we are brought to you by signal wire signal wire Powers the future of cloud Communications built by the original Geeks of software-defined Telecom their mission is to make it simple for anyone with a great idea to build whatever they can imagine the ogs at signal wire have spent decades solving the most complex problems in Communications whether it is voice messaging or video signal wire has the apis and sdks to create unique and intelligent Communications experiences from within existing applications or websites join the millions of other customers like Amazon ring at Home Depot who are using signal wire to build the communication experiences of the future visit signalwire.com random to sign up for a free account go to signalwire.com random and build what's next in real-time Communications go to signalwire.com random that's signawire.com random Dr Joyce brother she was very like of Dr Ruth except she was not foreign or German or foreign with the heavy accent it was hysterical but Dr Brothers was like very clinical and one of her big things was uh you know within seven seconds whether you want to have sex with someone or you know and I was that would even just to say that on TV then was pretty outrageous but you know I just used to think it takes you seven seven it's one you guys talked about that right yeah but isn't just I mean I think it's different for women yeah but as far as like you know that I want to you is different than I I'm going to like you know I'm trying to see something oh I'd like to you but I can see you're a psycho and trouble and a million other things and you know discretion is about that takes the seven better part about it exactly but I could see you know physically you know that um I don't think it takes seven seconds well I think I mean that's enough time to get a woman it could take seven years you need two instances of eye contact right and then maybe an opportunity to like take in something about that person's and you know be it beyond their looks so their demeanor especially like yeah I mean I mean I always think the only way to have a good time is talk first sex second eat third can never eat before sex okay and you can you can never eat before sex and you can never have sex without a good long talk first because and like now that I'm this age or like I'm sort of like become more like a woman I like that too do you identify with the term sapiosexual no because that no that because that's someone who can only have sex with someone who is um you know intellectual well I certainly you feel like you had a William Shatner conversation with that you're like I feel turned on here but no that's not necessary but to like actually you know have a long in-depth conversation with someone who you know may not have my life experiences or be quite my age uh you can still have feel like you you know you just have to get to a place where you feel like oh where there is a mental connection going on that's when the pants come off before that it meta it's just no matter how physically attractive a person is on either side I don't think it works do you think the only way it works that took time of testing out many physically attractive people who you're like oh I couldn't talk to them I mean I didn't even I didn't understand that even when I was 50. I don't think because you became famous in your 30s did you go through your whole phase late or did you go through it in your early 20s in college everything late because I'm a Capricorn okay um I do everything late everything comes to me late um like I was super shy and like terrible just to talk to a girl was difficult when I was younger and I mean you would never guessed I would have gone into Show Business let alone be like sitting here with you just kicking it and you know so like I don't know just relaxed that certainly would not characterize me as a child or an adolescent I was ostracized by the other kids a lot I always had a knot in my stomach going to school I couldn't make friends easily even though you were you were funny since 10 yeah but like funny you have to like you'd have to know me first kind of funny you know I mean I had friends growing up at like maybe one or two at a time at most I remember the first two years of college I really didn't have friends I had one guy who lived in a dorm uh he's still a friend of mine but I didn't see him that much he had dorm life I'm not I'm sorry frat I was in a dorm and I wasn't a fraud kind of guy I mean I would sometimes he'd say I would call him up can I come over on the weekend you know just to do something I used to dread the weekend because at least during the week I had a reason not to be popular I was working on school work during the weekend you know and this is college when you should be like having the best yeah so like I made up for my bad adolescence severs it's really I mean I always say I went to Freaknik 93 and I stayed till 2000 to 2007. and during that time did you learn that sex without mental compatibility to some degree it's just not me again it took forever I mean when it there was many times when not many times actually a few times when it happened when I was with someone who I should have been with and who I was in love with and you know when it was a real relationship and then yes I did experience that well this is why you don't get down with buddies see I'm not like that I actually feel very the opposite that I when I have a buddy I mean I'm very scientific about it but a big thing is I don't want to have an intimate conversation with you I don't want to get to know you aside from really how can we have a pleasurable experience together and I think what turns me on that is different from me yeah and I'm not really turned on through conversation I love it and I think it's a different type of intimacy that I really do enjoy and I'm glad I'm with a romantic partner who doesn't stifle that part of myself either because I love going out for dinner with dudes who I think are just super dope and super cool I just want to talk and like get to know but the dude that I might just want to have sex with is just the one who just says that nasty that there's something about it just Sparks this Carnival I mean one leads into the other I mean having that again have a woman's feel and to feel intimate with her and her feel interruptly mentally you know like we just found out a lot about each other and you know we expressed some things that like I what what's going on with you I care about you at least this much you know did you mean that yeah no I'm sick in general misread things stop fantasizing about me but to do that then that is what you know makes the panties wet mm-hmm your panties well in theory this is like what is your turn on trigger that's the thing that would get you no I'm saying it makes a woman's pant I don't wear panties what are you talking about I'm not sure if you do or don't but I'm saying what gets you turned on you do not no but it also does turn me on and um I mean her being turned on turns me on somebody asked this question to me I want to ask you because we were talking about what's more of a turn on than a that's wet you know because it's like oh you do like me but I guess in your position it's got to be more than that this is proof you know in basketball they say ball don't lie yeah of course you know why like you could say you don't like me but come on I can feel it but I mean that's you know come on you can't nothing but you know that would turn me on like you care about you you're like from a gynecological perspective they could have an infection or an infection it could be I'm saying there's various reasons why there could be excessive moisture I'm just saying that that's probably not that okay it's probably not it's probably not an infection thanks for putting that in okay well I'm just saying that every time the only indicator that somebody is into but it is a good one an erection so I want to ask you this because we were having a discussion just because there's um you're in the podcast realm now so there is this sector of male podcasters who are Voice or talking aloud maybe for the first time and men don't traditionally talk about sex and relationships but now they have these podcasts where they're doing so and then as a result they're saying a lot of unpopular things there's a lot of talk around body count and you know body count you know women how many bodies women has had how many sexual partners that's great that you don't know that it's a huge thing like that's right that's a word now body count body count yeah and it means how many sexual partners you have yes meaning it's good or bad it's a bad thing if you're a woman to have a high body count as it always has been it's always has been women were judged bad with a high count and men oh I got a bunch of them you know that's you know Wilt Chamberlain 20 000 and you know that so nothing's different now okay so you gave it a name Buddy problem though that nothing is different that we have this sexual Liberation movement happening for women and then many men because that biology doesn't change no your brains can change we have plasticity from the beginning you could work on it I'm sorry not from the beginning of time women's Brains are not that different they do not like Tinder is not what they want they do not want to just hook up mostly yes they they are it happens look at any dating show or TV show that's about it's still the same they could have been on in the 50s with all the same culture though so we can't differentiate between if there's a socialization is that a man I want a man and they don't want other chicks like taking their man or looking at their man or their man leaving them they want a man in it to be their man okay so here's something okay that's most women but that's most westernized women who have been raised by their mother and their grandmother and their great grandmother to believe but this is what it is that's not Western that's just that's but no there are different cultures where women are more sexual women are more dominant where they yeah women are not jealous and want One Man and basically want to nest with one man and don't want other like of course there are other cultures where are these cultures we know different religions where you're allowed to have multiple partners they're allowed because the men run the religion and they made that a law the women didn't want it you think the women want to wear the burgers I think the Mormon women want to wear Pioneer outfits and be with all the other women who have to service the old who's the head of the there's Yoni pujas where you've got cultures that worship the vagina there's Yoni pujas what's Yoni I know that's a Hindu word yes for vagina where are these many people in this an Eastern practice okay so I would say it's a niche practice okay but one of the here's the question I was posed that I would like to ask you yeah so somebody said to me if there are a hundred men that you are physically attracted to how many of those would you have sex with and great question it's a great question for a woman right and then I'm I have to really think about that because no matter what number you gave me I'd pick one I'm gonna do a bit for you I always I always call it on myself when I do a bit but it it's too apropos not to do okay and here's the bit I've never known a woman who didn't have some version of the story where she met a guy was introduced to a guy tender or whatever social media and thought oh he's cute doesn't look like a psycho was very hopeful something would happen and then they all have some version of and then he opened his mouth and I lost interest every woman has that story and no man hahaha but you do what are you talking about nobody just had the discussion that you do have that experience yes but um it didn't it came late in life okay and it's also once you did programmed yourself from socialization and decided not what you're told to like but what you actually like that gets you to that authentic bomb sex that causes you to black out or forget what you said I mean it can be I mean [Laughter] bomb sex I think I'm going to put that on my license plate laughs um yeah it has to be a version of what we're doing now or what I just did with William Shatner can I ask you that question is that it is a connection that is going on between Minds that then you can that then can move to a different space if it's appropriate now it is with Bill not with you is it because I'm pregnant you don't want to knock on me quite frankly okay all right fair enough I don't want to be that guy hey keep it down in there baby is your sex drive low or is your drive to have sex with me love it's neither but this is awkward Mrs Robinson okay sorry let me ask this question back to your boy if there's a hundred yes a hundred men and for women and as soon as my point of doing that bit was to to your point as soon as yes 100 men you find all attractive most women like 92 of them would open their mouth and they'd be like oh I can't deal with this my mother was the biggest fan of Robert Goulet you don't know who he is but he was his gorgeous French Canadian singer big star 60s 70s and then he started to go on talk shows and she was like come over Robert because he opened his mouth and I love him but he wasn't good on talk shows uh anyway that's but but men no you you put a hundred hot women and they will find a way to get around the fact but again this is what I was and that's why I feel like it's so good to stay single your whole life at least in my life because I wouldn't have gotten to that point if I had gotten married when I was 35. I would have never evolved to that because I would have been arrested into that thing with you know there were a great compensating reasons why that might be good for someone but I would never have gotten to this point and I'm really glad I did get to this point because I feel like much more of a complete person I I literally I've told you I feel like more like a woman that's actually a beautiful place that's a really beautiful statement now do you think that your mom if given the opportunity to have oral sex performed on her from Robert Goulet and that was it she thinks she would turn that down even though he wasn't intellectually stimulating that is such a great question my father took her to see Robert Goulet what a great guy my father was knowing that she had like what we would call now a screen Crush um at the Waldorf I think somewhere where he sang it was an intimate setting I mean it was a crowd but and she sat in the front row and you know he was this matinee Idol like Tom Jones I used to throw the underwear at him and he kissed her in like on the cheek this is something he did in the ACT whoever whatever she got picked well she was pulling up well she was in the front row he kissed the ladies in the front row on the cheek it was just a thing um and we never let her live it down and you know she you know dying down on that for years and but then I do remember that when she was like he became a bigger star and was like on the talk show circuit and I knew him in later years I purposely befriended him so that and I mean I was a fan too but like so that my mother could meet him and I remember I for a 75th birthday I think it was I flew her to Las Vegas before I could really afford it on a private jet and we went to Robert goulet's house wow yeah and then well you know like this is why you shouldn't meet your Idols I think I mean he's a lovely he was a lovely guy but I think he still wanted to be adored by not the women my mother's age you know he didn't want in his mind he was still Robert Goulet te Las Vegas so you know it was like okay I get it that the women who have aged with me love me in that way but I want the 26 year old over there was he giving her that feeling when she was there I just think he he no it waited it wasn't like aimed at her or but it was just like yeah there was some part of that he wasn't giving her kiss in the cheek energy but that's fine nice it would no he was very nice he was a great guy but he just you know it's hard to be like a matinee Idol and then be like now you're just an older guy who women are not like fawning over he didn't want when like an older woman phone over I mean he wanted them he wanted it to be a 26 year old again he didn't want the older ladies coming up to him like I love you I was like yeah if you have a daughter you know so it wasn't uh you know not that my mother was like I mean he was married and you know the wife his wife was such a wonderful woman I still uh keep in touch when I can and uh but you know I mean that's why they always say it's dangerous sometimes to meet your Idols because like um they can disappoint you and not be the you know or or that you can meet them and they can surpass your expectations so this goes to the point then because your mom said previously that he wasn't intellectually stimulating enough but she still went to this house looking for kiss on the cheek energy you're right well to be honest I was the one who put it she wouldn't have asked me I set it up um you may have a point though I mean I don't know because I can't see in my mother's mind but I mean yes I think when a woman has that uh warm feeling in her loins the moist do women have loins I hope so um yes I think it never goes away to a certain degree and I mean she was a widow at this point you know so it wasn't like she was game on okay exactly bring on Goulet If Ever I would leave you that was his big thumb he was in the show Camelot I knew Viva Las Vegas if that's one of the songs that's Elvis okay well I do know that but he was do you know the show Camelot have you heard of it I've heard of it okay they called the Kennedy administration Camelot because it was a show on at the same time and it was about this sort of mythical Magical Kingdom and people who loved Kennedy use that as a metaphor but really it's the King Arthur and Camelot is a story they made a movie of it with Richard Gere and Sean Connery called first night and I'm sure you know the characters like King Arthur he's the King but in the play in the musical that Robert Goulet was in you know he's older now he's the king to the point about Robert goulet's age um so and the the plot of the thing is that his wife his younger wife Guinevere falls in love with the handsome younger sir Lancelot whenever he passed her his front of his pants would Advance a lot that's it for the show could not resist it's a limerick somebody made that rhyme and they deserve credit the front of his pants would Advance a lot come on that's pretty good any anyway so uh that's the plot of the thing is that older man wife and then she falls in love with his good friend but much younger and Robert Goulet made his mark on Broadway in 1960 playing the young Lancelot and then later in life he toured as the king because now he was older you see what I'm saying no he was still getting young what are you talking about but he didn't want to play the king oh he wanted to play Lancelot see whereas in my life it's the exact opposite I was never suited to be Lance a lot I'm perfect as the king I'm never I never was a boyfriend partly because of what we were talking about you know just so does that mean you're not standing things that I didn't understand when I was younger are you having your best sex ever now let's mom I can't get too personal what do you mean that's a pretty that's a pretty basic question within the past oh 10 years 10 years right here let's go to the timeline 20s was a time of depression not being cool enough to be invited anywhere we didn't finish the story on the weekend you had one friend who you'd go to just to have somewhere to be oh and then it got better well when you turned oh well any time after that anytime having no friends I mean my first two years of college no no for real friends except for that one guy but I didn't see him a lot and certainly no girls I mean I'm talking about oh for laid I think the first two years because like first of all I I was a furious masturbator you know I would rather masturbate and plot how to get women than you know lower my standards and I certainly uh lived up to that Credo um and you know masturbated a lot and plotted a lot and uh you know that was kind of my Mo but no I mean it was then I moved to New York to start my career in comedy that was almost just as bad because New York you know how you Vibe with certain cities yes yes you do I do know I had this conversation early today like what cities do you Vibe this city L.A really yeah you live here I live here and I don't like New York I always buy I moved I lived in New York twice I grew up right outside of it everything in my life as a child was the New York orbit my father worked in the city drove into Manhattan every day New York television I still root for the New York sports teams New York is always going to be in my blood and there's a lot of love I have for it and many of the people there but as soon as I moved out here la like sucked my dick on the first date I like it and he liked that apparently this is a good thing metaphorically it had a great conversation with you and then it sucked your dick then you were like I will live here no that was way before I cared about a conversation okay but it did I mean it was just You're Just Vibe with certain cities I didn't Vibe with New York especially with the women I always said they played playoff basketball you know play like playoff defense like you go into the lane and they are gonna slap that out of there I mean there are no layups with New York Women at least when I lived there twice once when I was younger and poorer not doing that well once when I was in my 30s and was starting Politically Incorrect and was doing much better it was horrible both times I mean New York Women I just found to be like like I moved out here and they're like the women you know they they just they just didn't give you a hard time I mean I didn't you don't have to be easy but just women in New York I don't know like they were just like I maybe it was just me it's the again it's the whether you Vibe I know guys who love New York but you had to be like more aggressive I think there's a certain cycle that goes on in New York that the guys are so aggressive like on the street that the women have to like shut down just to survive because the guys are like hey how you doing hey hey give me a smile hey where you going hey I'm just what do you mean I'm blocking this hey just hey what oh you got a boyfriend why you can't have any friends I just be a friend you know like they're just and I can't do that that's just very good you brought it out at me but you know what I'm sure guys have done that to you yes I know New York is a great place to go for an ego boost doesn't matter how you look or how you feel you're gonna get that energy but maybe then as a result of that it caused the adverse effect in women it's beautiful African-American woman I knew once told me she said you know white guys they approached me and they're like you know and I don't want to have to do with them and I I say I have a boyfriend and they go away black guys they go well you can't have any friends [Laughter] I always wished I could be that guy yeah you know who had that kind I'm not and I can't so New York you're best to be the king I'm the king you're best to be the character it was not good as Life's a lot that's Robert Goulet yeah I'm the king yeah and happy to be okay so then let me ask two questions quickly then because you were a fierce masturbator I'm trying to make a link does that mean now do you enjoy hand jobs or because you perfected it on your own it's very difficult for somebody to come in and do a great job with you be I think it's always interesting to ask and then question number two I have then is then when did your sex life start and then when did it start to get as good as it is now funny I remember the first time I felt like with sex oh I got it you know just like just like anything else sex is a ten thousand hour thing maybe it's not ten thousand hours but it certainly doesn't come naturally I'm sure it's ten thousand hours that sounds accurate well it's not you know I don't think it took me ten thousand hours in fact I know it didn't but like you were a fierce masturbator that counts too those are hours that's not sex you don't think so no of course well it's well I mean it's a variety of sex but you know I I no I wouldn't I'd put it broadly it's more like uh actual sex than Dancing with the Stars but I mean it's not you know it's not sex I mean there's two fairly different things now can they feed each other absolutely can they you know uh and or hinder each other I mean one of the uh things you have to do as you get older is like don't masturbate near any time you're having sex because you want to store up more Chi you know what I'm saying because when you're younger you masturbate before to get off so that you don't come too quickly with your partner yeah exactly if you understand everything doctor it's so great to talk to you you understand that you understand me thank you well I'm sure I was going somewhere with that story but I can't remember where it was well no you work I would actually you said the first time that you felt like you got sex right I was 24 24. oh you peaked real early peaked well 24 to first get I think I first got second I had sex when I was 16. but I feel like the first and so now we're talking about eight years later it was the first time I felt like oh now I know how to do it that's what I'm talking about what was different you know I I can't I don't know if I could put it into words it's just like like I was saying with anything else that's a skill partly a skill and partly accumulating experience and doing it enough times that's complicated you just feel like part of it is like learning how to hold back you know so you don't come too soon right and things like that I don't know I just felt like that that night the first time I felt like oh okay now I'm driving the boat here now I can dominate not in a bad way dominate just as me Tarzan Eugene that's the basic nature of it I mean look anybody can have any kind of permutation yes and they do but that's the basic default setting I have found that's what they want they don't want some passing out weak in the power play Dynamic you would attract people who would want the king but isn't it so their idea if you had a different demeanor you would attract the opposite so yeah you're probably right I'm sure you're right because you're the man wait I'm the man you're the doctor all right I gotta say goodbye to you okay well let me ask you if I don't get to ask a hundred attractive women in front of you oh right how many do you have sex with I I would have to talk to all of them and then I bet I'm like the woman like I said I've become more like a woman it would be a very few number it could be none because if you're if I don't if if I don't want to also have lunch with you you know that's the that's the acid test what I have lunch with this person that is certainly something I never cared about or asked myself when I was 30. you know it was never entered my mind would I actually want to have lunch with this person if I didn't want to them lunch oh they'll be gone by breakfast what are we worrying about what that was wonderful thank you that was a joy such a joy [Music] I love babies do you no I've never I've never touched a baby the story you told me about your mom is exactly why I had kids because I want them to take me to my Robert goulet's house one day

Channel: Club Random Podcast

Views: 110,495

Keywords: club random podcast, club random, podcast, bill maher, bill, maher, club random with bill maher, real time, real time with bill maher, Shan Boodram, Lovers and Friends, shan boody, shan boodram interview, relationships, charlamagne tha god, the real, dating, jared brady, dating advice, relationship advice, shannon boodram

Id: aCMD9t2DvLg

Length: 60min 36sec (3636 seconds)

Published: Sun Jan 08 2023

Reddit Comments

[u/EnricoTortellini]

Bill isn’t the type of person who needs a podcast (not that anyone does), I mean he wouldn’t stop whining about Woody having friends. Woody was actively getting annoyed and uncomfortable because Bill would not let it go. I enjoy Real Time for the dynamics, not for Maher…nobody likes Maher.

[u/blageur]

I smoke a lot of weed, and I'd never smoke with a non-smoker in the room, let alone a preggo. Also, I wouldn't have touched her leg either.

[u/alexkarpovtsev]

excellent episode. love how different it is from real time in terms of subject matter.

[u/JeffyFan10]

I bet bill has a huge crush on her. she looks like all his girlfriends.

[u/wannabelegendary]

This was a very strange episode

[u/brightpiinkhat]

One of the best episodes I've e seen in a while, easily top 3. I've known of Shan for a while, she's really authentic. She's a great conversation holder and starter, it was kind of nice to not have any random dull moments, or having Bill constantly have to pick the conversation back up again. She was awesome