[SEVENTEEN] GOING SEVENTEEN 2019 EP.19 논리나잇 #1 (Debate Night #1)

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lmao, those debate topics.

I love how into it they are, their situation-acting is A+!

👍︎︎ 23 👤︎︎ u/juhli_a 📅︎︎ Oct 28 2019 🗫︎ replies

The editing on the recent episodes, chef's kiss~ so good, it's like those fanmade crack videos but better.

Whoever did those subs...... I can't tell if it's the direct translation but I see the effort to get the jokes across and it's great imo

Anyway, great episode as usual, the boys are just so fucking funny every single time.

👍︎︎ 19 👤︎︎ u/waterlooloooooo 📅︎︎ Oct 28 2019 🗫︎ replies

((ass riding position))

The new(?) GoSev staff are amazing

Also why is Hoshi’s first thought about having a 10-yr old body is being able to do fractions

👍︎︎ 16 👤︎︎ u/kymi17 📅︎︎ Oct 28 2019 🗫︎ replies

Pure comedy

👍︎︎ 13 👤︎︎ u/Tangerines17 📅︎︎ Oct 28 2019 🗫︎ replies

Seventeen are so naturally funny that its actually impressive. Really the way they improv off the cuff and bounce off of one another, especially considering the size of their group, is so enjoyable to see.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/KarmaRockets 📅︎︎ Oct 29 2019 🗫︎ replies

I love watching people bullshit through debates lol, but Seungcheol's argument about aging was pretty depressing. It's funny how they're always aware of their idol responsibilities and using them as counter-arguments, like being able to perform at award shows after 10 pm, is that actually an advantage or disadvantage? :D

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/ReservedTea 📅︎︎ Oct 28 2019 🗫︎ replies
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[HEY HEY] How have you been, we missed you all How can the time pass so slowly, really GOING on the bus, GOING under the blankets GOING is always GOING! GOING to you! Even if there's logic, there isn't really one Even if there's no logic, it isn't really without logic A high-class no-logic debate show, it's SVT Logic-ly Night Logic-ly night~ Yes, hello, our dear viewers I'm Wonwoo Jeon, who will be leading the 1st SVT Logic-ly Night. Alright, SVT Logic-ly Night is a program Where we bring up the numberless difficulties that we face in our everyday lives And debate on those difficulties with great depth, using advanced logic. Fellow members, which difficulties have you faced most recently? I... uh... my difficulty was, I lost my wallet Alright, next member (Lost his difficulty) Dear judge, - For the last time, he's not a judge~ - I'm not a judge. I'm the host. [Cool story, bro] I went to the toilet today And faced an immense difficulty in front of the door. [(K bye)] Alright. Even if there's logic, there isn't really one. Even if there's no logic, it isn't really without logic SVT Logic-ly Night. It commences, now! Alright, now we will officially be beginning our debate. Before we begin, I will briefly explain to you how the debate will proceed [Debate procedures] First, today's debate will proceed in groups. When the debate begins, each team will take turns to bring up their logical argument. The opposing team can rebut the argument And it is possible to rebut the counterargument, too. And we inform you that, for each topic, which side of the argument each team will take Has been decided for 30 minutes prior to the shooting through a draw. Alright, then we shall immediately proceed to revealing the first topic of debate. [Living with 3 eyes VS Living with 3 hands] Oh~ This is- Our team drew the 3 hands, right? The team on the left will claim for the 3 hands, and the team on the right is for the 3 eyes. Alright, let's commence the debate. Shall we first hear out the logical arguments? Alright, starting with the team on the right Our team will go first. - We shall first officially decide on the team names before we proceed. - Oh, should we decide on the team names first? It's Logic-ly Night, we thought it'd be inappropriate to keep going by the right side, the left side. I... We'll take a moment to come up with a sophisticated word. [(A sophisticated question)] - What sophisticated words are there? I will give you 10 seconds. Bro, bro. We should also... Electronic per problem~ Ah, sorry about that~ Our team has settled on our name. Okay, please tell us your decision. [(Toss over)] Mr. Shua will be the one to tell you. Yes, Intelligent. Alright, Intercom [An intelligent host] No, Intelligent... [(So jealous...)] [(That's brilliant!)] Sorry, Intercom? Intelevision! No, no, what was it again? Intelligent [Watching the Intercom] Intelli... Alright, we'll go with Team Intel. What's that, it sound like the brand. Sorry, but can't you go with Interstellar? Alright. Interstellar~ Still, it kinda sorta feels sophisticated, so... [(Quickly making up the team name)] Alright, the team on the left, would you like to change your team name, too? We're currently.... Team Currently, I see. [A satisfactory team name] [(Team Interstellar) (Team Currently)] Team Interstellar, let's start with your logical argument. Alright, for Team Interstellar, we will-- [(So smooth)] --Start with Dino! Alright, everyone. 3 eyes! I believe that it is much more useful than 3 hands. Why is that? Where could I place that eye on, I can place it anywhere I'd like. Oh, that's true. It's up to me, you know. There's no limitations. Imagine, what if I were to place that eye, not on the outside-- but on the INSIDE of my body. [(Forcefully creating an atmosphere)] Wooow~ What do you think could happen then? [(Oblivious)] I think it would sting a lot! The eye... Wrong. I will be able to check each part of my body The stomach, the liver, the duodenum-- everything. The liver seems bad! I should head to the hospital immediately~ [Can perform a self-endoscopy/ prevents the risk of speaking stupid things when put to sleep with anesthesia] It enables self-diagnosis, there are such various... Having 3 eyes is the best. - If you lack the medical, the knowledge and things like that-- - We will rebut Alright, warning! You mustn't begin your rebuttals until you've finished listening to the argument like this. Oh, is that so? [(I'm a cool guy)] You mentioned that you're all for fair play - That fair play, in your daily lives-- - Sorry, who are you? [(Brain stopped)] - Have you... like this... You've got no lens on your glasses, have you. [(Boo)] Excuse me? Have you got a problem with that? First, what we'd like to say is, what Mr. Dino has mentioned. We'd like to tell you that you can perform a self-endoscopy. Ah~ Self-endoscopy, that sounds decent. Alright, Team Currently. Please proceed with your rebuttal. First, if the eye is on your stomach, You can only see your stomach with it, and if it's on your liver, you can only look at your liver. So what, cry me a liver. [(Pauses) (Ignores)] Unless you are a doctor, - How could you tell if you're seeing a tumor-- - Don't get too excited [A self-endoscopy with the third eye, you wouldn't be able to read the results even if you saw them] Or a gastritis, how would you be able to tell? What would be the benefits of having 3 hands, then? [Hoshi comes on lightly] - I will lightly try... - Yes, Mr. Hoshi, go out to the front. - Ah, well, I don't have to go out to- - No, do get out. Alright, everyone, you like computer games, right. Ah, yes, I do. When you play computer games, as I know it, You stack up the cup noodles and stuff next to you. But when you're in the middle of playing computer games like this, 'Aw, I don't want to lose my focus, but I'm starving!' And you want to eat cup noodles! And suddenly, you notice that there's this hand right here. Would your hand be that long? Ah, well, it's long, alright! Even an arm is this big, you know! - We accept the hand to signify the arm. - The hand is a little short... Anyways, when you're playing a game and in the zone, Without having to lose focus, you can take a bite like this, then-- [Enables consumption of cup noodles while gaming/ Fills up your insides] You could do that. [(Solemn)] That aspect is highly convenient, and if you have many hands, Alright, the chopstick game With the chopstick game... You're absolutely at an advantage. You'll always win for sure. And, When you play the Korean variation of the rock-scissors-paper, the multi-handed version of the game You can choose from all 3 options. How's that even possible? [(I dun c Y not♡)] [The chopstick game, the multi-handed rock-scissors-paper/ Can become the top player] - Silence, please - Sorry And everyone, on a rainy day, You can carry the loads on both hands and still hold an umbrella as well [(True dat)] That's good, huh. [With both hands full of loads / Can hold an umbrella, can look at the phone at the same time] Or you can walk while looking at your phone, with loads on both of your hands. And above it all, we're singers, aren't we? We send hearts to our fans. There would be 3 finger hearts. [Enables 3 finger hearts/ Can become a lovebird] If it's on your butt! It can also work as a simplified chair. Sorry? Show us, please. Say it's on your butt. - Mr. Dokyeom! - Yes! - Show us, please. - Sorry, what? Demonstration of a hand attached to the butt Alright, if you can't show us this, the argument shall not be considered valid. [(A hand on the butt?)] [(Just how?)] It's an arm, an arm. [(Just like this★)] [(Detailed view of the hand on butt)] The arm is attached to the butt like this. [(Ass riding position)] Ah, this is how it becomes a chair. [If you attach the hand on the butt / Can produce a very comfortable simplified chair] It becomes very comfortable, like... It's currently like this because my arm is actually attached here, but-- Our dear host! I have an opinion. When you've got 3 hands, I will try explaining to you how convenient it is When lying on your back, you're using your phones, everyone. When you're using your phone, what do you do? You use both hands, because! It's easy to drop it on your face when you're lying down But if you have another hand, if you have 3 hands! [(If you have 3 hands?)] You can scratch where it itches. [Back scratcher logic] Say you're using your phone! And your butt begins to itch! [(Doubling)] Your butt! [(No, that's not the area)] - We've never experienced an itchy butt... [(Back scratcher)] - Where does it itch, then? [Has chosen "back" as the itchy area +1] Your back could be itchy. Then the back... you can scratch your back. Your back feels so itchy, you're using your phone, And you don't wanna put it down, BUT! [No need for a back scratcher / Can become a professional human scratcher] If you've got another hand, you can scratch your back. But Mr. Dokyeom, what if the hand isn't flexible enough? Then you can't scratch. Alright, attacking your own team is banned. I will rebut. We'll take a listen. Alright. Uh... Well, I listened to your argument well, Mr. Hoshi. You said you could eat the instant noodles next to you while playing games. But when you're watching the screen intently, how will that hand find the instant noodles? [(Didn't think about that)] Don't you need another eye in order to find it? We have 2 eyes now, Does that mean we can turn one of them to another direction? They don't work that wa-- So, that's why You need an additional eye [You need 3 eyes to at least try eating them] - So that you can eat like this, at least - Oh, is the other eye located on this side Then, having 3 eyes and 3 hands would be just right [(A grand union)] Alright, silence please, Team Currently And the 3 hearts, what's more important than 3 hearts is that we first communicate with our fans while looking them in the eyes [With 3 eyes, we can lay our eyes on our fans even more] If we have 3 eyes, we can look at our fans much more than we already do Alright, when we're out on the catwalk There are fans behind us too, so what do we do? We can greet those in front, and those at the back, all at once [With an eye on the back of the head, can greet both in front and at the back] You can make eye contacts from the front to the back, waving your hand this way. - But if the eye were to be on the back, wouldn't your hair conceal it? - You've got to open up your hair like this! [(Getting tired)] You're gonna go that far? Please listen to my opinion this time This has been bothering me since early on, who IS that person? [(??) (Me?)] Who is this person? [(I'm that lens guy from earlier★)] This is Professor Seungkwan Boo, of the Management Studies department Oh, the Boo-Management Office Your opinions have nothing back contradictions in them. It appeared that you were merely seeking for conveniences in life, yet no sign of humans' sincerity was seen That benefit you have mentioned, being able to send 3 hearts But our opinion was The eye, why do you think that there is the term 'eye contact' A way of feeling a person's sincerity, That is through the eyes, of course [For the first time, a reasonable logic has appeared] That's right! Without looking in the eyes, just because you have another hand Would sending them hearts make them feel good? Hold on! Dear host, does this feel good to you? Without even looking [(Not doing the bad sign)] Dear viewers, does this make you feel good, look at this [(Throwing hearts)] [That's pretty nice and fresh, actually?] Looking into the eyes And then sending the heart! [Sincerity comes from the eyes / Hearts must be sent while looking in the eyes] Is a hundred, a thousand times better, is what I'd like to tell you Even as I am doing this presentation right now Seungkwan Boo is looking in the eyes, without taking the eyes off the camera, he is talking to you with his eyes With only the greatest sincerity What can speak the truth are the eyes, I believe. I have an objection! Yes, Team Currently Yes, I would like to rebut Mr. Seungkwan Boo's opinion, Mr. Seungkwan Boo, with your two arms as of now, Do you then use one hand to send hearts while facing the fans And use the other one to send empty hearts somewhere else, like this? [(Perplexed)] - No, everyone, I'm saying... - You don't, right? Having 3 hands... you have-- Just because we have 3 hands, doesn't mean that we are gonna use the other two hands to do that When our fan is in front of us, while looking in their eyes, [Sending 3 hearts while looking into the eyes / Love, love, who spoke of it? I did] - We could give them 3 hearts while looking into their eyes, is what we meant. - That's right~ - That's what you meant? - It is, yes. [(Quick change of attitude)] That isn't bad either, but... Hold on Alright, first, let's hear the opinion of the team on the lef-- That's what the explanation meant, And the arm, rather than being attached over here, [(Arm)] It could instead come from here [(Aaaaaaaaaaarm)] You could have a long arm What's wrong, Mr. Dino? It's so creepy when I imagine it There a pencil here! When the long arm is connected, you can take it from over here [Can pick up things from afar / Enables long arms, makes life richer] How convenient would that be? You're about to sleep, and you have to switch off the light Oh, you have to get up again. Isn't this too bothersome? The arm protrudes from the foot Wrapping up one's day, how much more... Can I rebut? I'm not done yet. Please continue to proceed Everyone, [(Fully immersed)] Earlier, you guys said Where does it itch? When you have 3 eyes You could look at the fans behind us as you walk, using the eye on the back, right Don't you think about the fans getting scared? Hey, you think an arm coming out of your foot won't be scary? What's scarier! Is you keep speaking like that in here! - While raising the tone of your voice. - I shall respectful. [(A bold aspiration] What did you say? 'I shall respectful'...? [(Respectful guy)] Everyone, Mr. Seungkwan mentioned this earlier. That you see with the look on your eyes, But I do not believe that the look on the eyes can solve everything But even I've totally fallen for your eyes right now, Mr. Dokyeom? [The type to be scammed easily] How important the eyes are... [(Regained his sanity)] The people in this world, To the people living here Could you solely offer kind looks on your eyes to those in need? You need to give them a hand [Honestly surprised] You have to give them your hand and hold theirs, in order to go forward with them! [(Skipping the rest, as this margin is too narrow to contain)] The emotion gets conveyed But if the hand happens to be on your butt [(Then like this★)] Sincerity is what's important Being able to hold hands with the people in the world, and rise with them [The eyes merely aid / What's really needed is a sincere hand reaching out] And if you have 3 hands, you can hold hands with even more people And even when you shower You can brush your teeth while washing your hair. [(Truthful response)] Oh my gosh, that's so great You can wash your body while brushing your teeth [Enables reduction in the duration of a shower / Can sleep for 5 more minutes] That's so useful Please let me rebut I--I shall rebutt [Shua's logic] Mr. Seungkwan Please try taking off your clothing Please take a look The clothes of the worlds these days Are mostly made with 2 arms. [(Yes, that's it)] [(Yes, Shua) (Let's go)] That's right - Say you don't have the money - Huh...? [Chaos] You've got 3 arms, but no money [(Honestly no idea what he's talking about)] But you need clothes to wear But you'd need to get them customized - A clothing with two arms, how will you wear it with your three arms? - What did you say? Alright, then, the person next to you There's only one pair of lenses on the glasses, too, what are you gonna do about that? [(Got no words say to)] - What we have said just now, I would like you to let the words go in one ear and out the other. - Hey, hey! Why are you saying that. I mean, because it doesn't make any sense, even to me! Ace in the hole always comes out last. ["A" in the hole] - The hidden main member of our team - By any chance, is this the person? - That's right! - I am a little dubious, too. [(A scene where you can imagine the moment that immediately follows)] Everyone, I will tell you this, this eye of ours... We can place it elsewhere as well, without being limited to the body, necessarily. [Objection] Where-- That, I believe, doesn't make any sense. It does make sense. Alright, that's not allowed, it can only be placed within the body. [(Oh, is that right?)] [("A MingGu" in the hole)] That was a complete nonsense. [Our real A in the hole this time] Our ace in the hole, at last! [(Bump)] [Ace: hits his head while coming out of the hole] An ace hitting his head in the hole, no doubt! Hey, he's like a scientist, a scientist... - He's been investigating for 20 years and... - Isn't that Einstein? [(8-stein)] Team Currently, please proceed! - 3 feet - It's 3 hands... 3 hands, there's something good about this. Everyone, you like eating, right? When you get a burger meal, one hand on the burger, one hand on the fries, one hand on the Coke. You can use the three together at once like this. And when you go to the movies by yourself, you can do it together like this. - Eating this and that using two hands, how is alternating between three hands different from this? - Hey I'm talking. Hold on, rebuttals are banned for now. - Respectful, you should respectful. - And when you go to the movies, if you were to go on your own... One hand on the popcorn, one hand on the ticket, and one hand on the Coke or another drink. You can enter the movie theater conveniently like this, even when you're by yourself. [Burger, fries, Coke/Popcorn, Coke, ticket / The bliss of 3 the 3-handed] How convenient. As someone who frequently goes to the movies, it couldn't get more convenient than this. For this topic, I believe that it is a complete victory on our part Nope! Last one! [The REAL ace in the hole] Actually, what The8 said earlier about having 3 hands That you can have the Coke in one hand, the fries in one hand, the burger in one hand, I acknowledge that it is convenient. Ooh~! But, humans only have one mouth. How could we have the fries and the burger and the Coke, all at once? - You alternate between them. - If you take a small bite each... Then you don't need that. Two hands are sufficient for that. The seasoning all goes on the hand... Hold on, the rebuttals shall come later. For 25 years, I have lived a perfectly convenient life with my two hands. [Hey, same goes!] We've also lived very conveniently with our two hands. [Total mess] You mentioned the movie theater. You said there are the ticket, the Coke and the popcorn, but... But, as soon as you enter the theater, you don't actually need your ticket. And using your phone at the movies is wrong. - Huh? Earlier, The8s - When entering! When entering, you say? Then, when entering, how do you eat as you walk? That's wrong, too. Eating as you walk... - It's okay to eat as you walk. - That's right! [(It's right?)] Sorry! Sorry. Yeah, it's a bit like that~ [Having 3 hands at the movies is yeah, a bit like that] Thank you for your great opinion! Alright, I'll go for the last argument. Well, I get where Jun is coming from Frankly, when you're entering, if you've got 3 hands, you can just place the ticket in your pocket... And the phone can go inside the pocket, too But! Your jeans might fall down. [(All of a sudden?)] The jeans fall down, you say? [(Don't the jeans always fall down once in a while?)] The jeans could fall down, the jeans... Say you've got no belt! Then, the hand will act as a belt. If you've got a hand here... [(Susp-hand-ers)] [No need for a belt: Can use the susp-hand-ers] What even is this! [(What on earth is that!)] When dancing, don't you create a cool impression by holding your belt like this? [(Idk they're weird)] [(Well done, fella)] Uh, dear host! For sure, when dancing was mentioned, I noticed a massive benefit. - We'll go for our last argument - Yes, our last argument. Alright, 3 hands! Not bad. But when you're practicing, right? Normally, when we practice, we practice the dance moves while looking in front [(Untz untz)] But! Imagine that you've got an eye at the back. Then, you can even control how nice you look from the back... [(Right angle) (Obtuse angle)] By getting the angles right. So what could you do then? It's better if you could even look sexy from behind as well. - You're saying that under the assumption that there is a mirror at the back, right. - That's right! Like, if you did this and looked... [Demonstration for setting the angle] Oh, the angle is a bit off. Slightly. [Fixing the angle perfectly with the eye on the back of the head / Can become the King and the God of dancing] Then, it's perfect! Do you know dance~? Then, what about the people who don't dance? [(Persuasion failed)] Is... that so~? We shall really hit the nail on the head this time! When you were young! What was the insect that was the hardest to catch! - The dragonfly! - The dragonfly, right? Why do you think the dragonfly was hard to ca-- [Uh] - The roly poly, for me - The roly poly is-- As for me, the cockroach was the most difficult. [(Ignores)] Why was the dragonfly so hard to catch! The dragonfly has an eye at the back as well, so it's got a very wide field of vision. It doesn't have an eye at the back, it is able to look around 360º. What I'm saying is, if we do that too, our field of vision will widen like that as well, won't it? [(A musical acting)] - Then, you're saying you're gonna become a dragonfly! - Are we aware of what will happen to us as we go on with our lives - What a dragonfly, his glasses look exactly like the dragonfly. - From now on, you're Dragonflyman. Is your dragon so fly, then! - Silence, please - Could you not send those two off, please? [(Respectful man appears)] - You all shall respectful! - You really are unstoppable... Can we conclude this after I speak for the last time? - It's really going to be the last, this time. - You're starting to come across as clingy [Clingy 1. When a person stays too close to another for emotional support, protection, etc. causing them to appear messy 2. Tending to adhere to a surface upon contact] [(Mess-eungkwan)] Did you just use the word "clingy"? Lastly, the camera these days are those 360º cameras.. where you can have a full view. You know what I mean, right? Humans have such desire. To have a wider variety, Not just seeing a single side, but seeing a variety of different sides, there's this desire. [A serious logic that suits the high-class topic] So having 3 eyes, rather than 3 hands, will be able to... [Can satiate people's desires to look at various sides] Satiate that desire more, I believe. - That's all! - Alright. I think we've already said everything, So we shan't be clingy and keep going on about it. [(S.ClingyOUPS)] Was I too clingy? Alright, as it appears that both parties have ran out of their logical arguments, so we shall end this topic. Our dear viewers, please leave your various opinions in the comments About which logic has persuaded you. - Please leave your comments! - I think the comments will be very interesting Subscribe and like, and comment. [Logic-ly Night] Yes, there's this famous quote 'Humans have one mouth and two ears.' 'This is for you to speak more quickly than you listen.' [(Never heard of this famous quote in his life)] What will be our next topic, I will reveal it right away. [Living with the body age of 60 forever VS Living with the body age of 10 forever] But, we inform you that the mind shall be your actual age. The team on the left, what is your team name? We're Currently! [(Team Interstellar) (Body age of 60)] - We're Team Interstellar. - What was that "Adrenaline" about? Alright, then we shall first listen to the logical argument of the team with the body age of 60. - Right, everyone. Have you all lived the age of 10? - Yes. - Have all you lived the age of 60? - No. I would like to try living both the ages of 10 and of 60. [(K, next logic)] Okay! [Logic, the end] Alright, alright, I will also try to say-- Can't we just leave this guy out? Alright, the body age of 60 forever! The mind is the same as our current age... As of now, I'm 21, and we're all in our 20s, right? - Do you like movies? - Yes! - And drama series! You like those various types of contents, right? - Yes! We do like them. But, what would you find on them? Look on the upper right corner. There are the age restrictions. [(Take that logic)] [(So what, what about that)] But! Your body age is forever 10. Are you gonna watch animations only? No, you're not. You'd want to watch movies, and lots of other things, but you can't watch them because of the age restrictions. The Avengers! [You can't watch The Avengers, The Parasite, Joker if you're 10 years old forever] That's right. That is such an inconvenience! And also, around the age of 10, your teeth start falling out. [Nostalgic pain summoned] Do you recall? Using a string, or going to the dentist and all the pains-- - At the age of 10, they would already have grown ba-- - No, I was in the middle of getting them pulled out! A bit slow, weren't you...? [(The kid who has short hands and is slow)] There are people who are in the process of it. So, if you consider such situations, I think that, living as a 60-year-old, being able to experience and enjoy a wider variety of things... Communicating with the people around you [Can enjoy various things without the pain of getting your teeth pulled out] For a long, long time would be nice. [(Rebuttals emerge)] - I have an objection! - Alright, we accept your opinion. Everyone, what you're mistaking right now is... It's the body age, only the BODY! is going back to being 10 years old. But my actual age is 24. I can watch the movies, I can't watch everything~ [(MingGu's attack)] No, I think you understood this wrong. No I haven't, this is what's right. Oh~ That's right! [(Explaining properly, once again)] Only the mental age is your actual age, the body and everything else is all 10... - Oh, I'm becoming a 10-year-old? - Yeah, you're becoming a 10-year-old. Only the mental age is maintained. [Late understanding] First! If your body age is 10... First, I'm sure you all would have experienced the age of 10 But the physical stamina is amazing, everyone. [Infinite stamina forever / Can run around for 24 hours] Even when you run about the entire day, you don't get exhausted... And, say we went back to age 10, right? Ha! Our addition and subtraction skills will be insane. - Fractions? Divisions? - We can even do divisions. [(Quick, unexpected questions)] - 3+3 is? - 6 [(A math genius♡)] We accept your opinion. [Can do the role play of a math genius / Can enter the Math Olympiad] You live your life with that genius mind. As for Woozi, say he went back to being 10, right? - Composing songs for an idol group... There's no one else like that. - A 10 year-old..! [If Woozi is 10 forever / Can become the youngest genius composer] - We'll have a genius composer on our hand. - Alright, continue... - What I think is the best part is... What is something that you cannot buy with money? [(Asking again)] - Youth! - Memories! - Love! - Time! That's right, you mentioned time. As for the time, since we're already 10, our youth is free of charge. [(Explaining it thoroughly)] That's right, you're regaining your youth. - You can live forever with that yout-- - Why do you think that the age 60 isn't "youth"? [Caught off-guard] S.COUPS, don't you keep saying that we're old even now, already? - 'It's because we're old'... - You say 'We're so old now'... [(All coming back to himself)] - You always seem to say this... - We're 25 right now. [(Shush)] - We! - If your body age is forever 10... A wide variety of situations... [(Pretending like nothing ever happened)] Will arise in our daily lives. - Um, excuse me, but you are aware that over there is also a member of your team, right? - Yes, yes. - He's not getting any say in this, so... - He'll go in the next round. That friend is our ace in the hole, so... [Feeling pleased] Ah, alright. We... The situations that could be seen as being inconvenient. Now, when you're performing your role in the society, those highly inconvenient situations, or... - The situations where you'd at a disadvantage would arise. - That's right, this is very important. But, a 10-year-old! For a 10-year-old child, when such inconveniences arise... [Sudden skit] Who told you to do this like that! What's thaaat? [(Perfect duo)] That you can evade the situation like this... [Able to utilize the innocent looks / Can live a perfectly easy life] - Who will ever criticize a young child? - Isn't that too punky a thing to do...? We acknowledge that. [(Clooooosing in)] Alright, Team Interstellar, please proceed. [Great ace in the hole appears] No, no, Team Currently, please get back to your seats. [(Great exit)] I will propose an argument. Mr. Jeonghan Yoon? You drink beer after practice, don't you? [(Spear) (Shield)] - I don't, these days. - Sometimes. You would enjoy them, wouldn't you? I used to before. If, you can't have those drinks-- you can't do any of them. [(The iron shield)] - I'm managing my weight right now, so it's fine. - Oh, sorry. And moreover, everyone.. In this democratic nation! You have no right to vote, even. Not having that is a very vital issue. [Perplexed] If you're gonna be political about this, we don't know where to head-- That's something that we can say, too. If you are going to go... [(Impression of the 10-year-old Woozi)] 'Oh my, what's this?' and bring up the youth as the benefit. [Woah, woah, calm down] If you're 10 years old, you cannot legally get a job nor live on your own. You have to keep depending on someone forever, your parents or... Grownups, you'll have to live depending on them. But, if our mental age is 25 or 23 years old. - Wouldn't that be very frustrating? - No? This is something Mr. Shua's been preparing for for 15 minutes... [Why are you making our child feel down] - At least pretend to be a little shocked... Try saying that once again! - Give it a go. [(Let's create that scene)] - I was just gonna go into it... - Do it again! We'll respond well this time. [(Call)] Please pretend to be shocked. If you're 10 years old, you cannot legally get a job, nor live on your own. [(Hyenas)] You have to keep depending on somebody else as you go on with your life. [Open up, reactions are coming through] But if you are a child! [(An other-worldly logic that makes use of the chaos)] It's an age where you can chew up a rock. I'll add in on what Joshua said earlier. What's our current occupation? We're idols. But you're seen idols around the age of 10, right? But have you seen idols in their 60s? There aren't any, yet. So if we had the body age of 60 [Can become the first 60-year-old idol / Breaking records no matter what you do] The first 60-year-old idol! And think about this. After 8 o'clock, the minors cannot get on stage-- oh, 10 o'clock, rather. - 10 o'clock, 10 o'clock - The annual awards, you can't do any of them. - No one can do the performance on stage. If it's past 10 o'clock, when our dear CARATs have been waiting for a very long time below But we can't get on the stage because of our age. - I've been there before. It's really sad... - The CARATs infuriated Would CARATs always be looking forward to the time after 10 o'clock, though? - Even before then, we can always... - The broadcast might start after 10 o'clock. At such times, I'm sure our CARATs will understand, too. If a 10-year-old is running about at midnight, wouldn't the CARATs get worried? Alright, rebuttal is not allowed for now. In this nation, as a 60-year-old, you can enjoy everything you want that a legal adult can. There are more things you can do than you would, when you're being banned due to young age. [There are many things you can do as an adult] - This alone would be a benefit, I believe. - You feel relaxed, to begin with. On top of that! It's your body that ages, not your mind, right. [Your mind doesn't age / Life begins at age 60] That's certainly true! That's right, Mr. Seungkwan! Well said. - Um, by any chance, can I say something for the last time? - Yes, go on! I will speak for the last time before we end our turn. Who was it that mentioned this earlier? That you'd have to keep depending on another person? As Shua said, you have to live your life depending on someone else. When we were young, didn't we all live our lives depending on our parents? But, when you're 60, seeing your parents age... You can become a friend, and age together with them. But if you're 10, when your parents are all getting old You can't keep living off depending on them. It's truly heartbreaking And your friends that you can enjoy at the age 10 Would begin to age as well, turning 30, 40 years old When you're stuck at the age 10, who will you be with. [60 years old with the family / 10 years old without the friends] - What kind of friends will you make? - How frustrating would that be. Alright. - First, Vernon would speak his mind, then I will follow him. - Team Currently, please proceed. - I would really like to rebut every single one of your arguments - Yes, same here. Firstly, you have to live with your parents, no matter what? And being unable to do broadcast past 10 o'clock. Through that, we can - albeit obligatorily - have a well-regulated lifestyle, regardless. - We can get off work early. - Getting a regular sleep pattern, and eating regularly. You'd grow very tall! [Not being able to do broadcasts past 10 o'clock? / Enables a well-regulated lifestyle, can grow very tall] Yes, these all are aspects that we are always hoping for in our daily lives. [(At the time of shooting)] Alright, it's 9:50 pm now. [(Just the thought of it is delightful)] - We can go home in 10 minutes. - Wow... seriously! Then I will live as a 10-year-old! [(The guy who was solemnly going on with his logic about being 60)] And! - As Vernon said... - I AM a little envious about that. I don't know why you keep using the term "depending on" someone. [Regained his sanity] - How will you take part in economical activities? - Economical activities? That there's something you want to do, but you cannot do it because you are too young. That alone doesn't make sense to me, firstly. Then, what about those genius kids who go to the Harvard University at a young age, - The job that you want to do... - Isn't like like 1 in a million people? Ah, that's true, so I'm saying that you shouldn't blame it on the job you'd like to do. You can do it, even if you're young! There are those people who go on 'Show Me the Money' [Can do everything even when you're young / Can even go on Show Me the Money] And receive great results and perform, even at a young age. - Everyone! Earlier, you have said that 10-year-olds live their lives depending on somebody, right. - Alright, was that everything? - No - No, that wasn't. [The host's refreshing manner of presenting] Don't hosts usually wait to listen to everyone? - Yes, please proceed. - I'm going to cry, I warn you. That's refreshing! At the age 10, even if the body is young, and you guys have the body age of 60... Still, that mind that is wide-awake! If we were to take our current age, the mental age I don't think it matters how old your body is. And, that mental age as well, if we were to go back with our current age... yeah? If we went back to being 10, we can save money by only getting the children's meal. [(At a loss for words)] What did you say? Do you know the children's set meal, at Sinseon Seolnongtang? [Bringing back memories] The children's set menu, we had that a lot back when we were in elementary school. We can have that. - Do you think the two of you could become full on that? - No! - But when the body age is 10, the stomach won't be very big. - Then you go and order a plateful of dumplings... - What exactly are you saving on? - And when we had those children's set meals as a child, the nostalgia... I nearly teared up just now. - You'd be eating that with your parents' money, now, wouldn't you! - By saving that money! [Show Me the Money again] On Show Me the Money... Why do you keep bringing up Show Me the Money..! I mean, even at the age 10, you can earn money legally without an issue. [Outsider 4] You can't. How could you? Tell us. Can you get a part-time job? No, you can't. Even if you didn't get a part-time job... Well, for instance, you could run a YouTube channel these days Or, like bro Woozi, you could compose and sell music. - As such, you can earn money in a legal way without a problem. - Or you could even pick up coins on the ground! Or you could do the dishes for your parents... - That is exactly the dependence we were talking about! - Yes! That's what depending on them means! I said, 'Or you could'. - We'll wrap up the discussion on the dependence here. - Yes, anyways! [Perfectly possible to do economical activities at the age 10 / Can save on money through children's set meals] We're saying that there are enough ways to earn money in a legal way. At the age 10, your teeth won't ache even when you eat ice creams. [(Overexcited)] They don't ache at the age of 60 either... Why, the age 60! I seriously don't get-- Why do you believe that it would for a 60-year-old? Because it does for me, now. - My father eats 3 of them at a time. - I said it does for me, right now! - I said my father eats 3 at once! Mister! - It will ache when I'm 60, you see! [A very logical debate, indeed] I said it doesn't ache for us, you know? These days, the medical... those aspects have been hugely improved on So in this age where people live up to a hundred, I image that you would be healthy at the age 60 as well - But what's better about living as a 10-year-old is... - You'd be even healthier. Your skin would, wow~ - 60-year-olds have nice skin, too. Why do-- - Oh, so, compared to a 10-year-old. [(10-year-old sounds like a swear word in Korean)] - Let's not touch upon the external factors. - Say 'age 10,' 'age 10'! Alright, please be cautious of your pronunciation. [At the age 10, your skin is relatively nicer] Compared to the age 10... The skin is at a different level. Alright. I believe that this debate is very bad for the mental health. This... Frankly, for the first time, I am getting the urge to reconcile while in the middle of a debate. Shall we reconcile? Frankly, 60-year-old or 10-year-old, why does it matter~! Alright, then we will end this after hearing one last words from each team. - Alright, I'll go. The final words! - You just try going on and not ruining it again this time, huh. The difference between a 10-year-old and a 60-year-old! Is that there are things that a 10-year-old cannot do, while a 60-year-old can do anything they'd like. [10-year-olds are limited through their age / 60-year-olds can do anything] But if we were to maintain the same mental age when we become that age, we would be able to do do everything we'd like. Alright, I see. [(A heavy blow)] We can go home in 5 minutes. - Let me say one last thing, too. - Please go on. Yes, everyone! Age is just a number. [Debate destroyed] [(Why, what'd I do)] [Age is just a number] Wow, how cool~! As both teams have ran out of logical arguments to say We will end this topic here. [(Clingy Woozi)] Don't you like the age 10, where you can go home in 5 minutes? Yes, going home in 5 minutes, I do envy that. Our dear viewers, please leave us your various opinions in the comments On which logic has persuaded yo. Please state clearly in the comments! [We ask for your various logical arguments in the comments] It would be great if you could mention 10, or 60 exactly. [The end of the first half] Alright, we shall end the debate. Why are we doing this, us?
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Keywords: 에스쿱스, 정한, 조슈아, 준, 호시, 원우, 우지, 디에잇, 민규, 도겸, 승관, 버논, 디노, SCOUPS, JEONGHAN, JOSHUA, JUN, HOSHI, WONWOO, WOOZI, THE 8, MINGYU, DK, SEUNGKWAN, VERNON, DINO, 세븐틴, SEVENTEEN, 토론, Debate, 논리나잇
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Length: 28min 11sec (1691 seconds)
Published: Mon Oct 28 2019
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