[GOING SEVENTEEN 2020] EP.18 논리나잇 Ⅱ #1 (Debate Night Ⅱ #1)

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[GOING SEVENTEEN] Wonwoo : Even if there is logic, there isn't one. Wonwoo : Even if there is no logic, it isn't really without logic. Wonwoo : A high-class, non-logical debate show, Wonwoo : SVT Logic Night! Hoshi : We're already back with Logic Night 2. Wonwoo : Hello everyone. Wonwoo : I'm Wonwoo Jeon, who will be leading the 2nd SVT Logic Night show. DK : I really missed him as the MC! [Logic Night's first question] Jeonghan : Are you saying, 'I'm Wonwoo' or Wonwoo Jeon? (*Playing with Korean words; 'Jeon' sounds the same as 'I am' in Korean) [Verifies himself as the Logic Night MC] Wonwoo : I'm Wonwoo. [Congratulations on the COME BACK] Wonwoo : SVT Logic Night is a program in which we bring up numerous difficulties that we face in our everyday lives Wonwoo : And debate on those difficulties in great depth using our logic. SeungKwan : I thought this was a listening test. Wonwoo : We finally came back with the 2nd season of Logic Night. WOOZI : Isn't this our historical moment? Jeonghan : Logic Night 1 was very successful, you know. [Legendary shot] DK : Logic Night 1 was a legendary episode. WOOZI : I like how it's the first program from GOING SEVENTEEN to introduce another season. Mingyu : So this time we have a nickname. [Looking forward to laugh] DK : What? Do we have a nickname? SeungKwan : To express the fact that it's tightly clogged, SeungKwan : a.k.a Olympic Highway at 7 pm. [No one laughs] Wonwoo : Okay then, let's listen to your words of determination. Wonwoo : We'll listen to everyone except SeungKwan. SeungKwan : Everyone except me..? [Great MC] Wonwoo : Starting from Vernon, shall we listen to some words you guys want to say? Vernon : When I monitored the last season, Vernon : I realized that I was a little too serious. Vernon : So today I won't be serious. [Whatever he means, they like it] [King of Logic Night] WOOZI : You finally got the sense of Logic Night, right? DK : Last time, I made some legendary moments in Logic Night 1 - DK : So I want to make Logic Night 2 more of a legend than Logic Night 1. - WOOZI : Oh? Cuckoo! [I'll let myself go] DK : Cuckoo [Doesn't know what perfectly logical means] Hoshi : I'll try to be more logical. Wonwoo : That's good. [Satisfied] Wonwoo : Next! THE 8 : I'll trust my team and do my best. Joshua : I'll do my best with confidence. Wonwoo : Good. Jeonghan : I'll try to win. S.COUPS : I'll do my best. - SeungKwan : Well I,, - Wonwoo : Hm? I never asked SeungKwan to say anything. Eh? [On the MC's own discretion, SKIP] WOOZI : There's a saying that yesterday's friend becomes today's enemy. [Feels betrayed] DK : We were really friends yesterday. Jeonghan : We won together last time. WOOZI : I'll do my best. [Mingyu : I can do it] [Mingyu : Saying some random things] - Wonwoo : Okay next! - Come back to yourself. [Mingyu : Don't give up] [A high scorer on the listening test] SeungKwan : I don't know why you're suddenly SeungKwan : Telling the viewers not to give up, [Subscribe, Like] DK : So that the viewers stay tuned. Jeonghan : Oh SeungKwan : I just hope you do well. [Jun : Speaking in Chinese] [Of course] WOOZI : GOING SEVENTEEN can translate this, right? Jun : I hope I get to talk more this time Jun : And I hope it goes well again. Jun : I don't know what I'm saying right now. Jun : Thank you, thank you. Wonwoo : Okay, last but not least, Dino, please say something. Dino : I actually monitored Logic Night 1 a lot, Dino : And I read some books.. Wonwoo : Even if there is logic, there isn't one. Wonwoo : Even if there's no logic, it isn't really without logic. Wonwoo : SVT's Logic Night, let's begin! [Logic Night 2] Wonwoo : Alright, we'll officially be starting our debate. Wonwoo : Before we begin, I'll simply explain to you guys how this debate will proceed. [If both teams has nothing to say, the debate ends] First of all, today's debate will proceed in groups. When we start the debate, each team will take turns to state their logical argument. If the opposing team can rebut the argument, the other team can also rebut the counterargument. Wonwoo : I also want to inform you guys that before we started shooting, Wonwoo : We already chose which side of the argument each team will take for each topic through a draw. Wonwoo : Alright. Let's start by making your team names. - SeungKwan : Yeah. - DK : Jeonghan, how should we decide today? [A higher version of persisting] Jeonghan : Wookkikki. Hoshi : Wookkikki.. DK : Our team name is very simple. Wonwoo : I'll give you guys one minute to decide your team names. [1 minute passed] Our team name is.. Jeonghan : Kkikkikki, meaning that we'll make sure we win and bring laughter. - Wonwoo : Kkikkikki? - Yeah. Hoshi : We have a slogan as well. Hoshi : One, two, three. Kkikkikki [Olympic Highway at 7pm] Hoshi : The atmosphere is so cold. Hoshi : Is this the trend these days~ [Any joke challenge] SeungKwan : The atmosphere is so cold~ WOOZI : Hey, I like it! WOOZI : It's not bad. Hoshi : Exactly, you used to be on our team! WOOZI : Sorry. WOOZI : I didn't want to be like this either. WOOZI : I'm sorry. Wonwoo : Okay so the left team's name is..? Dino : To refute whatever the Kkikkikki team says, Dino : I'll cut you guys off for a bit. Dino : Hold up! [Envious] - Hold up is nice. - SeungKwan : When we get the right to speak, we'll say Hold up! Wonwoo : That's good. Wonwoo : Alright then. I'll reveal the first topic. [Immune to the cold (but, you can't feel any coolness) vs immune to the heat (but, you can't feel any warmth)] Wonwoo : Being immune to the heat vs being immune to the cold. Wonwoo : However, being immune to the heat means that you'll feel extremely cold during October to March Wonwoo : And being immune to the cold means that you'll feel extremely hot from April to September. Wonwoo : Further, being immune to the heat means that you won't get burnt Wonwoo : While being immune to the cold means that you won't suffer from frostbite. [Drank yogurt] Mingyu : I'll start off by something simple. Mingyu : What do you guys do when it's hot? Jeonghan : When it's hot, we turn the air conditioner on. Mingyu : Don't you guys wear light clothes when you go outside? Yeah. Mingyu : But what do you guys do when it's cold? DK : We wear extra layers of clothing. Mingyu : We can wear as much clothing as we want. [Why is this logical] Mingyu : However, when it's hot, there's a limit to taking clothes off. Hoshi : Can I rebut to that statement? Mingyu : Of course, why not? Hoshi : We wear light clothes when it's cold because we can't feel the cold, right? Hoshi : So we don't have to spend a lot of money on clothes. Mingyu : Then what if it gets hot? Jeonghan : If it gets hot, it also means that it won't cost us anything. [One outfit gentleman] - Jeonghan : Why? Because we only have to wear a t-shirt. - Hoshi : So we don't have to spend much on clothes. Jeonghan : And if we don't spend a lot of money on clothes, Jeonghan : We can save the money And like wealthy Kim Mingyu who has assets worth of 2.3 billion won, Jeonghan : We'll also reach 2.3 billion won Jeonghan : We can even buy 4 convenience stores. [Many pennies saved makes Kim Mingyu] [Since they don't have to buy much clothes, they can live like a wealthy CEO who has worth 2.3 billion won] - If we save that much, we can become like that. - Exactly. Like Mingyu. SeungKwan : Wait, we just learned some new information.. [Give us 5 seconds] SeungKwan : Hold up! SeungKwan : That Jeonghan has a 3 story market in Hwaseong. Jeonghan : A 3 story market? In Hwaseong? [He met his business partner] SeungKwan : Through a real estate agent you know well.. - Wonwoo : Wait, don't say things that are not related to this topic - SeunKwan : Wait, I'm only going to say this. SeungKwan : About personal assets and buildings.. Jeonghan : Oh, but this already came out in the 'Insomnia Zero' episode. Mingyu : But that's good.. being a property owner.. Mingyu : It's cool. [Shaved idol] Dino : I'll say something. Dino : Everyone likes to eat, right? [Defense] Jeonghan : I don't like to eat. I'm on a diet right now. [His logic comes to an end] - Really? - Yeah. [His logic revives (slyly)] You like to eat, right? Dino : Do you like rice soup? I like rice soup. Dino : Can everyone who likes rice soup raise their hands? [A hot and heavy bowl of rice soup] - DK : Rice soups are delicious. - Dino : Yeah, they're good. Dino : Let's say that you guys eat rice soup at a restaurant. - Dino : It comes out in an earthen pot, right? - Yeah, that's right. Dino : What do we do in Korea? Dino: Fighting fire with fire. Dino: You know what I'm talking about, right? After you finish eating, you want to bottoms up. Dino: If you are immune to heat, you can touch hot things without feeling pain. Dino: If you grab the hot bowl and just drink it up, people are going to be like Oh wow, he eats so well~ - Jeonghan: I have a rebuttal. - Vernon: People amazed that you eat well [You can bottoms up a hot bowl, and get applauded by other customers in the restaurant] And I can be content that 'Oh, I'm full' Jeonghan: To rebut his opinion, Jeonghan: When its hot, fighting fire with fire means eating hot food when it's hot, and you feel chilled. [He's not in trouble] Jeonghan: But if you're immune to hotness, you can't feel the hot Jeonghan: So you don't feel hot food as hot. - Joshua: Yeah. - Jeonghan: So tt's not fighting fire with fire at all. -SeungKwan: It means we take comfort in warmth that much. - DK: Then that's not fighting fire with fire. - In that case, we'd feel really hot during summer. Jeonghan: Why? Because we feel extreme heat. Jeonghan: That means we can eat cold dishes as though they were hot. [Enthusiastic reactor] [You can eat cold dishes as though they're hot - and save on microwaves] - So I think that's more correct as fighting fire with fire. - But it won't be as good as when it's first served. Jeonghan: We love eating dishes later. [Such logical debate] When you're busy working, do you get to eat meals on time? Jeonghan: No, you tend to eat cold dishes. Jeonghan: You can eat those as if they were warm. DK: Guys? Do you like ice cream? S.COUPS: I don't eat ice cream. Change of plans. [Neighbor] SeungKwan: But according to Korea's largest portal site, Wonwoo: Seungkwan, using Naver's restricted. [Logic terminated] Go Moon Junhwi! Jun: What's our occupation? [Two jobs] Hoshi: Singer! Jun: Singers. Jun: What's the most important for singers on stage? - DK: Stage is important. - Jun: Yeah, doing performances is important. Jun: We need to appear good on stage, but what happens if we sweat? [Team work] Dino: Wow, this will take us home! [Can't feel warmth and therefore doesn't sweat - can keep a dry face on stage] Your makeup wipes off. Jun: Like Jeonghan said before, clothes cost a lot. Jun: What happens if we sweat a lot? WOOZI: We need to pay for laundry. Jun: Dry cleaning costs are high and we need to constantly fix our makeup. Jun: That's much more costly. [If you sweat, dry cleaning costs more than buying outfits - Then we can also become CEOs with 2.3 billion won] Wow, Moon Junhwi! [Very NICE] Woozi: Moon Junhwi's good. [Loophole] Vernon: If you don't sweat, do you mean that you're not going to wash your clothes? [Calm] S.COUPS: It won't be that often. DK: But if you don't sweat, won't your body have some problems? Dino: That's the benefits of being immune to heat. That's so good. [Solemn launch] DK: Not bad. [Change of attitude] DK: I actually wanted to be on that side. Jeonghan: But I saw it. SeungKwan: See what? [Exit] When it's cold... [Old friendship] WOOZI: Let Hoshi speak! Jeonghan: Who, who? Hoshi? Oh, Hoshi got up? Hoshi: Not feeling hot, not feeling warmth. [Sentimental] Hoshi: A singer sings the lyrics, Hoshi: But if I can't feel warmth while singing the lyrics, [Touched] Hoshi: How can I ever touch people's emotions? [Lost for words] Jeonghan: Warmth of heart is also warmth. DK: Of course, of course. Hoshi: If you can't feel the warmth of the heart, Hoshi: You guys are undutiful sons. [Undutiful son 1] That's a bit far... [Undutiful son 2] [Pigeon 1] [A mess (bench clearing)] Hoshi: When you can't feel the warmth towards your family, [Representing the pigeons] - Hoshi: And you can't feel the warmth towards your members, - DK: You don't know the warmth of people. [You are undutiful sons because you don't know the warmth of family] Hold up! I have a rebuttal. Jeonghan: Ah, we're not done yet. [Lingering feeling] Hoshi: I... will leave you with that. SeungKwan: Wait, you don't feel any warmth... [Rebuttal failed] - SeungKwan: Wow... - Jeonghan: And I saw that. Jeonghan: In winter, when SeungKwan sat down on the toilet, the seat was cold [Arouse sympathy for using toilets in winter] [Used to go to acting academy] I saw him do this. [En core] Because the seat was too cold! DK: Hey, isn't there too much detail? [Detail] Jeonghan: Puts toilet paper on the seat! [It's a misunderstanding. My toilet seat isn't cold] Jeonghan: But because we're immune to coldness, [No need to cause a ruckus in the toilet, can keep your coolness] - We can just sit down. - Jeonghan, you're trying to destroy one of your members [I'm strong against cold toilet seats] - SeungKwan: And spreading rumors! SeungKwan: The reason I put toilet paper on the seat... [So he does put it on] Wonwoo: Next opinion please. - Joshua: I have something else. - What is it? Joshua: We go to the sauna often. Joshua: There's the tub that you guys like. S.COUPS: Yeah, yeah. Joshua: Being outside and feeling the warmth, and enjoying it Joshua: You can't feel that.. [If you're immune to heat, you can't enjoy sauna, and can't go into warm tubs and feel happy] you can't feel that enjoyment anymore. S.COUPS: I don't enjoy that because it's warm. [Avoids/ Avoids 22] S.COUPS: I enjoy it because I like going there with our members and talking - S.COUPS: I don't like the warmth I feel in there. - Dino: If I can add a word here. Dino: I like the indoor tub as well, but also the outdoor hot spring too. - Dino: So when I go out, I can feel the chill as well, and you know. - Joshua: Then next time we go sauna, you just stay in the outdoor hot spring only. Do you want to join me? [Doesn't reply] Mingyu: Do you really enjoy going into the warm water? DK: No, I hate it. Mingyu: Do you hate it? [Logic terminated] Okay. Jeonghan: When we go, we only stay in the ice room. SeungKwan: You go into the ice room, SeungKwan: but your body temperature's fixed SeungKwan: because humans are a homoiothermic animals. [Block show-off] SeungKwan: But if your body temperature falls SeungKwan: Even by one degree, you'll be in grave danger. Jeonghan: Yeah, but you misunderstood. Because we can't feel that. SeungKwan: But your temperature does fall, you just can't feel it. Jeonghan: You can touch fire, Jeonghan: And you don't get burnt by it, but do you turn into ashes if you keep touching fire? [Taken aback] Joshua: That's right, that's right! DK: You don't feel heat, but you walk into magma DK: How can you survive? Hoshi: We can go to the north pole and become friends with the polar bear. DK: We can swim in the north pole [Stop] Mingyu: Do you know where you can get diamonds? Jeonghan: Our CARATs are our diamonds. [Logic terminated] [Only diamonds we know are CARATs] Wonwoo: Okay, Mingyu. If you continue like this, Wonwoo: I won't give you chances to speak. Hoshi: When you go to the department store, the AC's blasting. Right. [Hoping for tiki taka] Hoshi: What's that like? THE 8: It's... cold. [Tiki taka done] [Ruined] But we can't feel cold, right? But they do. Talk about that. S.COUPS: But why do you always ask our staff to blast the AC when we perform? Jeonghan: Because we don't feel cold. Mingyu: So you don't care about others? [Hurries] Hoshi: No, just in case our staff feel hot! SeungKwan: It's the opposite, because you feel the heat SeungKwan: You feel the heat too much so your frustration level is high! Jeonghan: That's why we ask for the AC SeungKwan: That's right. So you ultimately admit SeungKwan: How inconvenient to feel heat is. SeungKwan: But we are immune to heat! Okay, right there! [Burnt out] Jeonghan: If you are immune to heat, we WOOZI: What's with your pose? Jun: What pose is that? [Professional clown] Jeonghan: Oh, so cold! Jeonghan: I saw that. [Calm down] To accentuate how bad heat is once more SeungKwan: Heat causes endless frustration for people. [Not listening to serious talk] DK: Oh, okay. SeungKwan: Scientifically speaking, humidity increases as temperature does. [Scientifically skip] S.COUPS: Even in the weather forecast, S.COUPS: When it's hot, they tell you what the frustration score is. S.COUPS: But they don't do that when it's cold. DK: Why is that? S.COUPS: Because it's not S.COUPS: frustrating! Jeonghan: Coming to that conclusion is criticizing people in the world. [Can't talk to them] WOOZI: Now I understand why I'm on this team. SeungKwan: WOOZI, it's your turn. [Clogged] Mingyu: It's Olympic Highway at 7pm. DK: His walk is so intimidating. Jun: We're in trouble. WOOZI: There are many benefits on both. [Excited] - WOOZI: There are many good things and there are many good things. - SeungKwan: Good, this warm atmosphere. WOOZI: I've done a lot of research WOOZI: And there are benefits and disadvantages. [Easy pick/ First target] WOOZI: Hoshi, you eat a lot of sweet potato, right? - Hoshi: Yes. - You eat a lot of sweet potato. WOOZI: How do you take them out? [(Hot potato) Real acting] - Oh, he's good! - Looks real! Looks real! WOOZI: But we don't have this. We're just like [Hot sweet potato] [King of mime] [You can hold a roasted sweet potato really calmly, and look swag] - Without even cooling it? - You can just eat it. [Second target] WOOZI: DK, you like playing mobile games, don't you? DK: Of course. - WOOZI: There's a game you've been playing a lot. - Yeah, yeah. WOOZI: That game heats your phone up pretty high. [Being hypnotized] DK: That's true. WOOZI: You would have gotten burns on your fingers already. [Burn] DK: Oh really? WOOZI: And Jeonghan, you sigh a lot, right? WOOZI: If you have this immunity (to coldness), you can't sigh. Jeonghan: What doctor said that? WOOZI: Uh... from Britain... Jeonghan: John Practacks - John British [Sorta like Kim Hankook from Korea] - Oh was it British? Oh, okay. - Come again? WOOZI: John British. WOOZI: That's why he's from the UK. [He knows that doctor] Jeonghan: Doctor's words make sense. WOOZI: Yeah, so you can't sigh. WOOZI: Because your breath is too hot and might burn you. [You can get burns from overheated phone and sighing] [Sweet] - Okay. - Be careful. Mingyu: We feel a lot of cold. Jeonghan: Extreme coldness. Jeonghan: You'll get frostbite. [Two paddings] Mingyu: Have you ever worn two layers of outer? [We'll never know] Jeonghan: I have worn two layers. [Knew he'd do this] Mingyu: I've worn three layers. Mingyu: Three layers is enough to bear the cold. Mingyu: But you guys feel extreme, crazy heat. Mingyu: You have a t-shirt on. Mingyu: But you come outside, it's so hot. Mingyu: What do you do? Jeonghan: Deal with it. [Logic terminated] That's difficult. Hoshi: Mingyu, you said that you wear outers when it's cold. Hoshi: Do you know what this is? Mingyu: That's my wallet? [Really his wallet] Hoshi: This is your wallet. [He found it] Hoshi: And you can't buy coats now. [Taken aback for real] Jeonghan: He's already lost his wallet. - Wonwoo: Wait, this is irrelevant to the debate... - S.COUPS: Isn't this stealing? [In his pocket] Hoshi: It's not theft, I just found it after he left it. S.COUPS: Where did he leave it? Hoshi: I found it at the shop Mingyu: What are you doing? Give it back to me Jeonghan: You know, you need to reward the person who's found your wallet SeungKwan: I heard that you can claim up to half of that wallet's worth. [Pride of the man with 2.3 billion won] - Mingyu: Keep it. - Wow, he's so cool. Jeonghan: Thanks, thanks. Hoshi: Anyway, Mingyu. [Unexpected present] Hoshi: You feel a lot of cold. And you said you'd buy coats, but you can't buy it now. Mingyu: You can buy everything with your phone now. Mingyu: And using my hard-earned money Mingyu: To buy coats is the happiness and the reason of my life. [Billionaire's wallet] Hoshi: So this! - Yeah. - Thank you for this. [Angel donor] DK: Make all your purchases online from now on. Jeonghan: Lastly, because you can't feel warmth, [Undutiful sons] Jeonghan: You can't feel the warmth of your mother. S.COUPS: According to that logic, you won't feel that you're being cold to your parents either. [Calculating the worth of his wallet] Jeonghan: But our parents can understand that. - S.COUPS: Why should our parents understand that? - That's what parents are! [Touched] - Jeonghan: I can understand my son and daughter. - S.COUPS: That's bad parenting. [His pose is weirder] WOOZI: That pose is really weird. [Quick admit] SeungKwan: What's something really sad is SeungKwan: Say it's really cold [No logic] SeungKwan: And you go inside because it's cold. SeungKwan: You talked about the good of not feeling the cold, right? That's wrong. Why? SeungKwan: Blasting the AC indoors so often - SeungKwan: That's all problematic. - Jeonghan: So you're not going to live in Korea? SeungKwan: No, I will. Seungkwan: But say that everyone in the Republic of Korea has immunity to heat SeungKwan: Let's assume that they did, SeungKwan: and it means that we don't need to blast the AC. [Vitamin expert] SeungKwan: It's good for the health of Earth too Mingyu: Reduce global warming! Jeonghan: It's the same in winter. Jeonghan: Turning on the heater causes global warming. [Boogi expert] SeungKwan: You can move your body around! Do 100 burpees! SeungKwan: We feel cold SeungKwan: But there are relatively more things to do about the cold SeungKwan: But when it's hot, you stay still and still be stressed. Jeonghan: You can go to the South Pole [I won't go out of my way] - Bye then. - Go to the South Pole, then. Jeonghan: I we talked about the polar bear earlier, right? With polar bear, - SeungKwan: I'll ask you a question, DK. - Okay? - Say you're lounging around in the living room with your mom. - DK: Yeah, yeah [Getting into it] SeungKwan: But your mom won't let you turn on the AC or the fan. SeungKwan: And you'll be like 'Mom, it's so hot'. SeungKwan: What would your mother say? Hoshi: It'll get cool if you stay still. SeungKwan: Has it ever been the case? - Hoshi: To be honest, I was always a bit mad at mom for saying that. - SeungKwan: Right? It doesn't make sense. [If it's cold, you can work out- The Earth can get polluted if it's hot] SeungKwan: So that's why heat immunity is better. [Finished calculating his wallet's worth] Mingyu: I will add onto SeungKwan's opinions. Mingyu: You're home, and it's hot. Mingyu: It'll be hot even if with the AC on, you guys. Mingyu: Because you feel extreme heat, so you'll feel hot no matter what. Mingyu: What will you do? Mingyu: Nothing. But I can have a warm blanket over me with mom, [Doesn't like to be touched] Mingyu: And eat sweet potato with mother [Weight of 2.3 billion won] But you can't afford it. What? Don't have money to buy that! [Mingyu (CEO with 2.3 billion won) - Note: Doesn't have money to buy sweet potato] Wonwoo: So, THE 8 or Vernon, do you have anything? THE 8: Well, for me, personally, rather than attacking like this, THE 8: There are a lot of things that's good for me. The 8: I really want to have ice cream. [Being supportive/ Don't need it] - Right? But you can't have too much. - THE 8: But I can't have it because it's cold. [Don't believe him] THE 8: I really want to have cold noodles too, but it's cold. S.COUPS: You don't have those things because it's unhealthy. [Firm] The 8: No, it's because they're cold. THE 8: But if I have immunity to coldness, it'll be good for me. [All will be good if I have coldness immunity] It's good for me. Jeonghan: So you talked about moms and AC just then? Jeonghan: Our house... well, this... [Kindhearted son] Jeonghan: I didn't say this because I thought she might be embarrassed - Mingyu: Don't say it then. - Jeonghan: Our house didn't turn on any heating. [Put your hands up if you agree] Mingyu: Us too! Us too1 Mingyu: Right? But we don't feel cold. - Hoshi: Because we can feel the warmth of family. - Right. And because we are immune to coldness. Hoshi: But they don't feel the warmth of family, right? [Dutiful son who doesn't go home often] Jeonghan: During winter, I don't go home often. - WOOZI: You're an undutiful son. - Jeonghan: Because it's so cold. Jeonghan: But because we feel the warmth of the heart, WOOZI: You feel the warmth of the heart so you don't need to go back home often? - Yes - WOOZI: And you don't think about your parents waiting for you back home? - Jeonghan: I video call them. S.COUPS: He doesn't feel the coldness of that. Dino: If I were Jeonghan, I'd bring some hot packs with me when I go home. Jeonghan: What? Dino: I would have taken hot packs with me home. [Fake news expert] Jeonghan: So that's why you go out drinking every night and come back home at 6 AM [Let go free] - Jeonghan: You don't see your parents and come back home at 6 AM! - I can't do this today! Dino: I think my image will be completely ruined today. Wonwoo: Silence, silence. Jun: We've had cold noodles during winter while working, right? Mingyu: Yeah Jun: And we've had ice cream in winter. SeungKwan: Yes, we have. Jun: Have you played with fire on a hot day? [Blocking the logic] Jeonghan : We don't want to play with fire. Wonwoo : Hold on, you are not reputing now. Hoshi : It's dangerous. [Quick Acknowledgement] Jun : Right. Jun : It's dangerous! Right! Jun : Fire is dangerous! Jun : But fire is not dangerous anymore for us. [Twist in situation] So [Nothing to say] - Something we can't have by nature, we can do it now. - SeungKwan : He's doing so well! Jun : Ice is something that can be touched by anyone already, but we can play with fire without getting hurt, which is extraordinary. SeungKwan : We get an ability to neutralize the danger! [Unbelievable] - WOOZI : Wow, Jun is our ace. - Jun : So we can go to all kinds of dangerous places [Immunity for heat is free from the danger of fire] - and can save many people. - We could also help! Jeonghan : We can find the people who are lost on Everest. - SeungKwan : Like you would go. - WOOZI : You wouldn't go. [Rare Confusion] SeungKwan : Hey, it's not like you can't go there because it's cold SeungKwan : It's because you can't climb there. Mingyu : I have an opinion. Wonwoo : Hold on. Wonwoo : Vernon, do you have something to say? Vernon : Me? Vernon : Honestly, as I'm sitting here, I am really jealous of Wonwoo's spot. [The most normal spot] I want to see this from the middle. Jeonghan : And while we feel extreme hotness Jeonghan : we can exhale breath made with fire when we sigh. [Exploding] Mingyu : On your ordinary days, have you ever felt the danger using the ice? [Rebutting] Hoshi : We're not allowed to touch dry ice Mingyu : Not so sure about that but SeungKwan : Don't listen to them too much. [Encouragement] Mingyu : Is that so? I got it. Mingyu : Touching fire is dangerous. Mingyu : But there are not many kinds of ice that are dangerous to touch. Jeonghan : Your hands will stick to cold pieces of metal when it's cold. DK : Right. Mingyu : You shouldn't touch that. Jeonghan : Same goes with fire! [Support?] SeungKwan : Honestly speaking SeungKwan : Let's not be petty over we wouldn't get burned or we wouldn't get frostbites. I think you guys are doing that SeungKwan : Come in. SeungKwan : Regarding those stuff SeungKwan : I think both of them are dangerous Jeonghan : The heat team cannot even listen to the song "Snow Flower'. WOOZI : So randomly like that? How can you listen to that song when it's so cold S.COUPS : Then you can't listen to Playing with Fire? [Kidding] SeungKwan : You can't listen to 'Our love is like playing with fire'? [Agreed] Because It's too hot.. WOOZI : I'll film myself singing Snow Flower at a karaoke. [Intermission Personal Skills] - DK : He's good. - Hoshi : Good Lastly, Hoshi : Briefly speaking, As singers, I think we have to feel warmth to deliver the warmness to the audience. Wonwoo : Ah, very well. SeungKwan : You guys take that mighty immunity for the cold SeungKwan : and keep it until the end of the global warming SeungKwan : and face a day where you'll deeply regret it. [Not Losing] Jeonghan : Heaters cause global warming too. Wonwoo : Since both teams don't have any logic to rebut, we'll end this topic here. Wonwoo : Please let us know which logic you viewers agreed with Wonwoo : we'll be waiting for many comments. SeungKwan : Sorry Earth. [Logic Night 2] Wonwoo : Yes, it's a night of beautiful logic, Logic night. Wonwoo : Because the members were chaotic on the last topic Wonwoo : this time, we'll fully listen to the opponents' logic first. Hoshi : Okay, got it. Wonwoo : I'll reveal the topic right away. Wonwoo : Teleport VS Time Slip. Wonwoo : Note that the teleport brings you back to the original place after 10 seconds Wonwoo : And it's applied to all things that are in contact with your body. Wonwoo : And there's 10% of chance that you may not return to the original place. Wonwoo : And the time slip makes you go back to 3 seconds in the past. Wonwoo : And there's 10% of chance that you may go 3 seconds in the future. [Team Kkikkikki - Teleport / Team Hold Up - Time Slip] Wonwoo : Then team Kkikkikki would go first. - Joshua : When we shoot TV shows or other content - Go forward please. [Obedient] Yes. Jeonghan : It's not easy to see Joshua coming out in front. SeungKwan : Why are you keep ordering what to do for him? SeungKwan : Joshua, are you a minion that - Joshua : Please be quiet. - Yes, okay. [Serious] Joshua : When we shoot TV shows or other content, there can be some awkward moments. [Example] Joshua : You are desperate to go to the toilet. Joshua : Then I thought there was a break. Joshua : But we started shooting right away [His own story] Joshua : without the break. [Tense Moment] Joshua : When you have to hold in, I'll show you the teleport. Teleport now! [In a hurry] Jeonghan : If there was a teleport, you can go like this for 10 seconds. Mingyu : What happens if 10 seconds pass? Jeonghan : If you hold on to the toilet, it will come back with you. WOOZI : It comes back with you? Ugh! DK : Why isn't he coming? [Happy] S.COUPS : He was taken by that 10% of chance. Jeonghan : Right, he's not coming back because of that 10% chance. WOOZI : Ah, he failed by that 10% chance! Hoshi : I think Joshua is back from the teleport. [Happy Return] [Supernatural Power] Joshua : Teleport is this good. - Joshua : You can avoid moments of embarrassment. - SeungKwan : Are you just moving to the best of your ability? [Toss] Jeonghan : And that thing that Hoshi wanted to talk about [Got the item] Hoshi : Mingyu left his wallet at the shop today. WOOZI : He keeps on using that. Hoshi : If you could teleport, Mingyu could go back in time - Hoshi : He could be like 'Where is my wallet? Oh, it's here?' - DK : He can bring it back. - Joshua : He could bring it back! - Right! [I don't care for anything but the wallet] [No chance of losing wallets / No need to get the ID and cards reissued] This is the power of the teleport. Hoshi : but if I don't have that ability to teleport. Hoshi : If I forgot the wallet, it's gone forever Jeonghan : You are losing it forever. [a.k.a. Chance to find the wallet] Mingyu : Would you give me a chance to rebut? Wonwoo : No, not yet.... are you done? Jeonghan : If we can teleport, we can save on the flight fares. Jeonghan : Because we have that 10% of chance, and we can just take the short visit to grab something really quick. Jeonghan : When we teleport, we can save the money for flights. Jeonghan : By doing that, we can save [Mingyu (CEO with 2.3 billion won) - Characteristic : No money to buy sweet potatoes, no wallet] like Mingyu [Want to be rich] who has 2.3 billion won saved up. Wonwoo : Okay fine. Wonwoo : Now, opinions! Mingyu : First of all, I'll rebut to Hoshi's logic. Mingyu : Let's say I left my wallet at the shop. Mingyu : As Hoshi said, if I have that ability to teleport, I would go get it. Mingyu : But then I can't come back even after that 10 seconds. [Here you go your reaction] Mingyu : Then, what should I do? [That's too bad] - Hoshi : That's a trouble. - I gotta be on the shooting Mingyu : I have to take a cap to come here and it takes 40 minutes. Mingyu : They would have to delay the shooting. [Let's do it / Don't team-kill] Mingyu : It's going to be a big trouble. Mingyu : I think that 10% is too big of a risk to take in important situations like this. - Hoshi : So you just don't use it in those times - Wonwoo : Ah, hold on, you can't rebut it now. DK : Then how can you do it with the time slip? Mingyu : Hey you idiot! [Motion that looks like going back to 3 seconds ago] Jeonghan : But we could go to the future. [Motion that looks like going forward to 3 seconds in the future] Jeonghan : What would you do if we go to future and fight? Mingyu : If you go to your future, 'Sorry' S.COUPS : No, why are you letting them rebut? [Mediate] Wonwoo : You can't rebut now. [History Fan] Dino : I consider time very important. Dino : Depending on your effectiveness in using time Hoshi : Of course, that's why you spent your time so preciously until the morning! DK : Time is gold. S.COUPS : Are you going to behave like that? [Unity of Ego and the Outside World] I can't do this. Mingyu: When we clean up our practice room after practice, Mingyu: And we play the timing game, 1! 2! And you get caught on 3. Mingyu: Go back in time. Don't say 3. You get caught? Go back! [Accepts] Mingyu: You don't clean! Woozi: Because our cool-time is only 3 seconds, we can use it endlessly. [Jealous] DK: That's not bad. SeungKwan: The World Cup takes place every 4 years. Seungkwan: And we're all watching it together. SeungKwan: But you suddenly get a signal, like Joshua had before. [10 seconds is all I need] SeungKwan: But SeungKwan: If you go to toilet, and then you suddenly SeungKwan: hear goal!!! SeungKwan: And I can't feel that joy. SeungKwan: But I can go back in time, and enjoy it together like yay~! Jeonghan: But what if you pis... [Calm down] Jeonghan: THE 8 has something to say. Wonwoo: Please go for it. THE 8: We all live in apartments, right? THE 8: When we have to take the trash out, it's quite Jeonghan: Bothersome. - The 8: bothersome. - Joshua: It's very bothersome. The 8: But if you can teleport, [Recycling gets really easy - You can become a model citizen who recycles well] You can just throw it out and come right back. - DK: Have you guys tried skydiving? - WOOZI: What? - Jeonghan: No - No, right? [Passion] Dino: I want to try! Skydiving! [Previous owner of Cuckoo] WOOZI: Oh, DK! I support you! DK: If you can teleport, DK: You don't need to pay for skydiving. Jeonghan: You can teleport to the sky DK: You're on the rooftop. DK: And you fall! [Realistic acting] DK: I'm falling! DK: And teleport! [No reaction] WOOZI: What if you fail? Then there's nothing to be done. Wonwoo: DK's opinion was very bad. DK: It's dangerous. Jeonghan: It is how it is. - Mingyu: May I do rebuttal? - Wonwoo: Yes, please go. Mingyu: First, I found DK's opinion very interesting. DK: It wasn't bad. - It was bad. - DK: If you succeed, it's very good. - WOOZI: If it fails... - Mingyu: So DK, will you go up the sky with the 10% chance of survival? [Pretending not to hear] What? Jeonghan: So we really 'live dangerously' Woozi: Feeling thrill to that extent? S.COUPS: But DK! If you really have the ability to teleport, can you really do skydiving like that? Of course! S.COUPS: Did you har? S.Coups: He said that he can do skydiving. [Startled] - DK: I said, if I had the ability I could. - He said he could. - S.COUPS: Oh, directors are nodding! - DK: Don't edit out the part in the beginning! S.COUPS: Can you do skydiving? [Full of confidence] DK: Of course! [Pinned] SeungKwan: Going Seventeen to Flying Seventeen! [We'll organize the opportunity. Thank you] WOOZI: DK's special episode, Flying Seventeen! Dino: Coming back to the topic, I'll mention another advantage. Dino: You guys know the film, Doctor Strange? - WOOZI: Dormammu? - Dino: There's this sir who controls time and controls space. S.COUPS: There's a sir lol [A sir who controls time] Dino: I saw an amazing scene in that movie. [Small-time humor] Wonwoo: Is it a science teacher? Dino: His line was Dormammu. Dino: He turns back time, and says 'Dormammu' and bothers this sir a lot Dino: ANd I Jeonghan: And you want to bother him too? Huh? [Bothering] - Joshu: Why do you like to bother others so much, Dino? - That's not what I mean... [Self-reflecting] Don't bother others! - Dino: There's this person who's so annoying! Someone so annoying! S.COUPS: And you just want to flick his forehead!] Dino: And I want to flick him. [SeungKwan] Dino: So you walk up behind that person, and flick him Dino: And go back in time three seconds. Jeonghan: So Dino, you're going to use your ability to hit people? I can't do this. WOOZI: I'll take it from here. [Pretending to have teleported/ Acting] Hoshi: Huh? When did you teleport over there? DK: If you can teleport, you can just... [Edited out] WOOZI: We can confess our love without any risk. WOOZI: Mingyu, I like you. [Go back three seconds] WOOZI: What? I have nothing to say to you. Jeonghan: Why are you doing that? [Sympathizes perfectly] - I saw the future - SeungKwan: Rejection! - SeungKwan: In case he gets rejected - WOOZI: Because I don't want to get rejected. WOOZI: It's hurtful. WOOZI: And if I just don't like something about a person, WOOZI: Strike! [Went back 3 seconds] - S.COUPS: Go back in time - WOOZI: And I'm back in time. Jeonghan: We can do the same. Jeonghan: Teleport! Hit! S.COUPS: But then, they'd know! [Hard-working entertainer] - S.COUPS: The other person knows. - Mingyu: That's where we differ. Mingyu: The difference is that for us, it's for our own happiness. Mingyu: I hit Jeonghan, and came back in time. Mingyu: No one knows, except for me. - Jeonghan: You can also go forward in time. - Mingyu: But if Jeonghan, if you teleport and hit someone, Mingyu: You're just beaten up for the next 9 seconds. The 8: I have something! The 8: Say that you have someone you don't like. - Hoshi: It can be a bit mean. - THE 8: For example, I can teleport. - THE 8: I can take Joshua, and take him some place bad - THE 8: And come back alone after 10 seconds. - S.COUPS: That's so mean! THE 8: You started doing bad things first. Jeonghan: Dino harassed us like this. Jeonghan: Then I'll just grab Dino, Jeonghan: And teleport to a deserted island, and come back by myself. Dino: Is that what an older brother should do? Dino: Is that a way for an older guy to act? [To be continued in part 2] You're being so mean! From a few minutes ago! Wonwoo: Now, we'll select our second topics. Jeonghan: Oh, so we're selecting all of them at the same time? SeungKwan: I don't want to memorize, I can't remember it. Do I keep it? Mingyu: If you keep it, you don't need to memorize it. - Wonwoo: Should we shoot without SeungKwan? - WOOZI: SeungKwan just shot 'Knowing Bros' WOOZI: And is a bit arrogant. - WOOZI: Going Seventeen... - SeungKwan: I shot one show, and they tease me so much about it. SeungKwan: Guys, I try my best whether it's Knowing Bros, or Going Seventeen! SeungKwan: I'm not that sort of a person! Wonwoo: When I came in, SeungKwan was like 'Hyung, try hard as today's MC' Dino: Wow, so grown up! So grown up! WOOZI: Well he can say that... because he went on Knowing Bros alone! - WOOZI: He can say that! - Admit! Wonwoo: SeungKwan and DK will do rock scissors paper. - WOOZI: Not everyone gets to go on shows alone. - Yeah. We've selected the topics.
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Channel: SEVENTEEN
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Keywords: 에스쿱스, 정한, 조슈아, 준, 호시, 원우, 우지, 디에잇, 민규, 도겸, 승관, 버논, 디노, SCOUPS, JEONGHAN, JOSHUA, JUN, HOSHI, WONWOO, WOOZI, THE 8, MINGYU, DK, SEUNGKWAN, VERNON, DINO, 세븐틴, SEVENTEEN, セブチ
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Length: 27min 1sec (1621 seconds)
Published: Mon Jun 01 2020
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