Scoffers and Mockers

I've been quoting nothing but Mormon sources the past simple day every year I come out here I quote warming sources it's amazing at how quoting Mormon source upsets mornings why is that I don't understand it much boy not neighbors most of you not name it the documentary history of the church I mean I named that I named Joseph Smith's history you know Joseph is history where's the contradiction keep saying that I'm merely quoting the story and I'm asking if you believe the story at one time you said you did believe the story but now you're starting to say you don't know what the place were made of even though the angel said they were made of gold even though their other ate him gold he didn't say these are plates made of gold he said they're cold plates in a big color that could have been their alloy he was that the point of his message wasn't to describe the plates in great detail I'll give you that there's a sheet metal for pizza no I work for a steel company you know how many different formulas for steel their art they would call them off Steve how many were there when the Nephites supposedly lived here it was probably pretty good I don't believe there was steel during the time of the Nephites I don't know well that's not hard to figure out sir because if you go back you can find out when steel was invented and it wasn't during the time of the beef still he beats one well even if it was paper if you pick up that box of paper and go to an office Depot and picked up a box of paper that's 42 pounds but I'm making it easy for you I've given you a replica that looks like the place every picture you see this picture comes from a mormon source that's the way the plates are meant to lie okay doesn't that kind of look like when I have you know I couldn't do the Rings I admit I didn't do the Rings only because they were too fragile to make the Rings would make them way too fragile and I didn't want to do that what was they made of they were too hard to make in the first one rings native I don't know well then how do you know what the plates were made of the marking do you know you're laughing over here and you're mocking me do you know what Alma 5:30 says those of you I'm your brother right accordian Mormons I'm your brother says if you mock your brother who you are not telling us we believe in lies premise why is it when you call Mormon sources with Mormons they get upset with you how much do you think the part that Moses and God divided that's just that water alone that separated in the Red Sea how much do you think that wave Moses didn't you touch it Michael Joseph carried 200 or 300 pounds of plates that was a miracle right it was a miracle I have the problem with miracles what I'm trying to get across to you is no Mormon leader or colleges says there was a miracle involved which one of them said there wasn't which one said it was yeah i'm wit so said there was i not been met what you just said had me an easy wait for a man like joseph ferry he was goes down to a weight that he believes would be easy to carry but he didn't say if i was no help he did not say there was no america there's no divine help you're speculating you're putting words there that are need putnam read putnam is a metal or just that most more of them apologies turn to when it comes to the tamago theory and Putnam says that the plates were not so heavy that a man could not carry them we are not led to believe that the weight of the plates was a great hindrance that's what Putnam says we do not believe that the weight of the plates was a great hindrance why well Joseph Smith who's known that carry the plates rather with them he always had them covered up however so nobody really ever saw them yes they did that's that's what accounts say about just nobody isn't what accounts say there were people who handle them other than Joseph saw they know they handle them okay because they bore testimony are you talking about the 11 witnesses the eight witnesses in their testimony claimed as they saw and theft of the plates however I'm sure you only if they have to they're obviously a man could have done you know Thank You Nolan why can't Yoda there's a know called steamrolling that when I'm trying to explain my argument I'd explain you're just coming up with violaceous I'm quoting more from logic that does a little more alarming sources and you're calling it fully not those but their speculation but we you sat there and said that these guys have to them and they could have to my good sir because if you keep interrupting me you're starting to sound like an obnoxious boor to these people and I don't want them to think that of you well okay let me tell you something when you look at when you read the story of the eight witnesses it says that they saw and they hefted the plates when I did some checking into that testimony I came to find out that the ware says what did you have to do that are you mocking me again if that's what it is go ahead come on walking I can't even you're here walking so thousands of people you get upset if I ask you a question that you can answer you interrupt your watching with your ignorance because you know let me explain the story because I think you're afraid of what the story is actually standing here talking to I want to make sure he understands the story oniton Edwards didn't stop this sermon sinners in the hand of the angry God you people for crying out tell me what he said wait till the air yeah listen he made some accusations and I'm gonna because you care I don't think you understand the story the eight witnesses claimed in their testimony they saw are you aware let me ask you are you aware yes or no that at the time they saw the plates it was not the same time they have did the place are you aware of that but it's my mom well why is that important this is why it's important folks they saw the place according to the story envision just like the three witnesses saw them envision according to volume 1 page 53 of the documentary history the truth they saw the plates and vision but later on Joseph Smith came had brought them a box telling them these are the plates they were covered up they took the box they did what they thought were the plates they never saw the plates at thou you're gonna claim that they for the place absolutely all while you were there yeah if they were the plates they would have first of all Joseph Smith wouldn't have carried them out to him like that there was a we're speculating Chevy they wouldn't wait to if they have to them they would play to them they didn't even know what they were having and you didn't either they recovered you earn you a box and I could cover I could put something in this box cover and I would say hey I got gold plates and you take them and you go wow I have to go plates you wouldn't be that ridiculous with you of course not Joseph I'm heat Ozzy I was believed a task Joseph can do anything he wants and we're not allowed to because he always told my truth no he wasn't a perfect man but he admitted that yeah but they're together do you ever hear a really repentant of all the things that he wasn't perfect about me I believe there were like in smoochers Marian at least 10 women who had husbands Joseph Smith had at least 34 wives at least 10 of them who were married polyandrous lee in other words he married women who had living husbands this is a document there's no denying it's a document in fact even Richard L Bushman talks about it in his book rough stone roll he admits to at least 1000 fishermen Richard L Bushman he's actually a Mormon historian it's quite respectable when I start to tell you are you ready to hear the good news you

Channel: Eric Johnson

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Keywords: McKeever, Book of Mormon, gold plates, polygamy

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Length: 11min 22sec (682 seconds)

Published: Sat Jul 28 2012