Sadhguru Interview At Google [Full Talk]

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we're not talking about religion today we're not talking about spirituality today you can all breathe a sigh of relief we are talking about taking a moment to reflect on the times that we live in and what they require of us what they require of us is in individuals and what they require of us as a company one of the most influential companies on the planet if you felt a twinge of emotion when I mentioned one of these names or even the word religion that's normal if you feel outraged by the things you see on TV or read in the newspaper that's normal if you have passionate feelings about the election that's coming up in a month that's normal in fact if you don't have some of those passion feelings that's I'd say that's not normal however we have to learn to deal with these emotions we have to learn to find ways to integrates our thoughts and our emotions more constructively so we can more skillfully navigate these dynamic times so we can have impact today we hope to give you both the permission and the tools to do just that so guru is a realized yogi and mystery mystic he's a man whose passion spills into everything he touches including I learned yesterday golf with a keen mind and an unbounded heart his presence alone gives you a taste of what the natural state of the mind can experience in terms of love and joy and freedom said guru's vision to transform the world has been unfolding over the last 30 years the Isha Foundation which he started has numerous programs to promote inclusive culture and establish global harmony named one of India's most influential 50 influential individuals is deeply touched the lives of millions worldwide he's spoken at forums like United Nations and humble villages throughout India he's equally known for his transformational yoga programs as well as his large-scale social projects the project's address things like quality occasion education for the poor environmental stewardship holistic health peace and well-being said guru says joy is our nature misery our own May this is a provocative statement that he addresses in his new book inner engineering a Yogi's guide to joy which there'll be a few copies for sale in the back [Applause] [Music] [Applause] you don't mind if I cross my legs no please my brains my brains don't work if I don't cross my legs your brain doesn't work yeah yeah all right thank you so much for joining us today said guru I think the audience is very interested in what you have to say I guess to start they define inclusive consciousness I'd love to hear your thoughts on the did not define it they did not okay well I was just gonna ask you what's missing so so you can you can start with all due respect they spoke about intent right intent they thought they spoke about right kind of thoughts emotions attitudes and to some extent actions there is no consciousness in this if we are understanding that the way we think feel and act is of a consciousness no it is like we are mistaking a plant we are mistaking the flower for the soil we are mistaking expressions for the source this is something that's happening everywhere not just here people think by changing attitudes their consciousness will change no by changing attitude certain actions will change yes positive beneficial but it is not truly transformative change will happen transformation will not happen if I have to define a distinction between change and transformation change means the residue of the past will still remain a transformation means nothing of the past will remain which is what is needed today if you want to create a new world if you want a new generation to have a fresh life it's been expressed in so many ways being in this part of the world what they're familiar with generally someone said leave the dead to the dead it's very significant this is not coming out of recklessness this is not coming out of unconcern but this is coming with the concern that you must be a fresh life you can learn many things from the past about how to conduct yourself but there is nothing to learn from the past about how to be because you are a complete life by yourself you don't have to learn how to be a life from the past maybe you have to learn how to be a good engineer maybe you have to learn how to be something else in the society from the past but you don't have to learn how to be a life from the past because past has nothing to do with this this is a fresh life and this is a complete life consciousness is that dimension which is the very source of who we are our intentions our actions our thoughts and our attitudes are a consequence of that or in other words we are trying to fix the consequence without fixing the source now all these distinctions of variety of things that they said gender discrimination racial discriminations every kind okay somebody is Hindu somebody's a Muslim somebody's a Google it becomes a religion after some time believe me second-generation they will become a religion by themselves yes I'm saying you you see a football match going on it's like a religion two different clubs they're willing to fight and kill each other just a game so where does this come from see our the nature of being human is this you should give me two minutes there are 4 dimensions of our mind in modern societies the nature nature of our education has constipated our mind in such a way because we are just largely using just one dimension which we call as the intellect the other dimensions of mind if I have to use Indian terminology it means Budi ahankara - and chitta what Buddha means is the intellect you do what you want the nature of the intellect is to slice things open and see if you leave the world in the hands of your intellect your intellect will chop it into your million pieces and will want to chop it into further micro pieces and want to chop it into further micro micro pieces depending upon how sharp your intellect is the sharper you intellect the more you dissect the world you cannot stop it because that is the nature of the intellect and it's good so you must apply intellect only to know the material aspects of life you can't know life this way there if I want to know you can i dissect you know [Laughter] so but if I want to know if a doctor wants to know a some aspect of you materially what's wrong with you he will take a biopsy and in a way he opens it up and looks at it it's okay on that level but I can't know you as a person by dissecting you I can't know you as a life by dissecting you I can know a part of your body maybe similarly I can know parts of the world to make use of it but I can't know life as such so you intellect has been over elledge iced in the last hundred hundred fifty years this is a European impact on the rest of the world where we think our thought is supreme someone went to the extent of saying I think so I so I exist or whatever I want to ask all of your simple question tell me is it because we exist we may think or is it because we think we exist which way is it hello because we exist we may think because people are in such a state of mental diarrhea all the time non-stop it's going on they think it's more of an existence than existence but my head is all the time empty unless I want to think about something so I know thought is not necessary I can just live here without the thought when I want I will think otherwise I will keep quiet just like my hand if I want to use it otherwise I keep it here similarly you must be able to do this with your mind just because you lost control over your mind and you think it's everything because it's entering into every aspect of your life where it has no business thought has been over Elledge eyes by people and the very nature of the thought is such that if you think it must be logical it cannot be any other way well what somebody is thinking my ill may look illogical to you but they have found their own logic the most extreme person that you have met within himself or herself they have their own logic so they are not speaking in logically as far as they're concerned they have found their own kind of logic logic means it needs to logic means it needs division now with logically you're trying to arrive at inclusive consciousness it's not going to happen because you are using a knife to stitch this is not going to work if you use a knife to cut it sufficient you use a knife to stitch things together you'll only tear it up further so my thought and your thought I'm telling you whatever great meetings you have conference I have been to every kind of peace conference on the planet what happens there it's just short of war after some time it heats up on the second day anyway it's over they all get drunk in the evening and they go home if you make them stay there for a week I'm telling you right there there will be a battle yes it is true I'm not saying this with any disdain I made a sincere effort to participate in all these conferences at one time believing they are going to lead to peace but last eight years ago I decided I'll never again go to these events because people are professional conference attendees they're making a living out of it it's not about peace so the next dimension of intelligence is called as ahankara Ankara means identity this is important that in modern societies we have not cultured our children to culture their identity when I say identity the fundamental identity for you is always your body this racial thing that concerns him and concerns all of us I'm darker than him you know I face it all the time joyfully but I face it everywhere I go I have extra features which make me further discriminated but our first identities with the body when we identified with the body the color of the skin also becomes part of it why do we identify with the body because our experience is limited to this if you send me you mean this isn't it because your experience of life is limited to this naturally you are identified with this and this is you and this is how you look somebody looks so different whether in gender or because of race or because of maybe just fashion who knows what makes them different but suddenly this is me that's you it's established but we sit here in this hall whatever the color of our skin whatever our religion whatever agenda we are inhaling and exhaling the same air but we have no issue body has no problem but the identity has a problem you are identified with something we have not cultured our children right from an early age that your identity should be universal this is something in India traditionally before you start education for a child that's something called us with the aarambam where the first chant that they must do is that my identification with the entire cosmos without this you should not give education to a child that is the understanding because education is seen as an empowerment you should not empower a person who has limited identifications because it doesn't matter whether it's a of individual nature or a family or of community or race religion nation it doesn't matter once you have limited identity you will cause disharmony you will cause cruel things thinking you're doing the right thing I know the debate the source of I mean the her debate always goes to Isis and things like this I want you to understand this these people looking at their actions you may be sitting here I know I am getting into a minefield sitting here all of us think these are horrible people but you must understand this they believe they are doing the greatest thing that a human being can do they're working for God there can be no better employer not Google God you've never prayed to my problem I'm saying you should have seen this you you know I'm sure you guys can google anything you must see there is a press meet that the Afghan Taliban is conducting with the international media just before United States invaded Afghanistan all these young guys with long beards and big big turbans they're all sitting like this and they're asking questions just then there'd be no bomb that Buddha statue and they made this thing that girls should not go to school and many other things so these kind of questions are coming whatever you ask them they say you know in our book in our holy book our prophet our God said this this this we are just doing that I was just watching this guys I had tears in my eyes these are wonderful guys these are guys who are willing to die for what they believe in but they've been screwed up by the Scriptures yes these are wonderful people who are willing to die for what they think is right all right a man who is willing to die for what he thinks is right is a great man but look at the consequence simply because of limited identity so this ahankara this identity is what wills the intellect if you hold the right identity from an early age if it's brought in to us that your identities with the entire cosmos because nothing happens here without everything's involvement in you we are sitting on this round planet which is spinning and moving at a great speed in the middle of nowhere you don't know where it begins where it ends this thing and look at us sitting here and talking how many forces how many forces in the existence are keeping you and main place on this channel so there is no way we can exist without the involvement of all this but talking about this intellectually is not going to help because if you try to understand intellectually you are using a knife further you will divide so there is another dimension of intelligence within you which can make you come to an experience of this the next dimension of intelligence is called as Manas Manas means is a huge silo of memory there are eight types of memory in this I will I just named them I'll not go into this these eight types of memory are referred to as elemental memory atomic memory evolutionary memory karmic memory sensory memory and in the karmic memory there are two types one is called sanchita and prarabdha there is a bank of memory which determines the very shape and size of your body there's another one which is right now in play so two dimensions of karmic memory in articulate memory that there is memory but you can never articulate but it's finding expression when you see a chair you know this is where you should sit not there you didn't think about it because there is a memory in you that this is where you must sit when you see a glass you know this is how you must hold this is not simple without this knowledge you cannot do this there is an enormous memory which allows you to do almost everything automatically because an inarticulate memory is constantly in action and there is articulate memory which is very miniscule part of your memory the next dimension of intelligence is most important this is called as cheetah this is an intelligence without an iota of memory in it unsullied by memory see memory means a boundary you guys are always dealing with information today or in technology I think memory does not mean what's here memory means all over the place memory is a boundary what I know is always a boundary what I do not know is a limitless possibility isn't it we have misunderstood the power of ignorance our knowledge is always bound within boundaries our ignorance is boundless so always in the yogic system we identified with our ignorance never with our knowledge this is something we must do in a technology company because that's where the possibility is that is where the new terrain is in near your ignorance not in your knowledge so Chitra is unsullied by memory it's just pure intelligence right now if you eat an apple it turns into a human being you cannot do it with your brains even your brains were created from by what you eat isn't it there is an intelligence here which is capable of transforming anything to this because it is making use of the memory in the Manas and making this happen but the most important dimension of your intelligence is cipta in today's education systems in today's social conditions there is no effort to dip into deeper dimensions of our intelligence we're just too enamored with our own intellect and now using this knife to stitch everything well you should know that even at Google when we interview people we have something called GCA that we look for which is general cognitive ability I suppose that that would fall into that intellect dimension most of us weren't raised where they were we were told from an early age to identify with the cosmos so is there any hope for us or are we are we lost see identifying with the cosmos is just another thought as a thought it doesn't do much it makes people little Airy brain and they'll start acting funny and you become new agey you know I love the cosmos it's very easy to love the cosmos because it's not here with you you got to love somebody next to you there's lots of problems say this wanting to set up boundaries the instinct of wanting to set up boundaries is so deep you see a dog peeing all over the place not because he has some urinary problem he's building a kingdom you know it's a Peking ham but it's a kingdom all right he's building a kingdom every human being also doing the same thing because there are two dimensions of your intelligence one is designed to create self-preservation one aspect of your intelligence is designed for self-preservation which is you intellect the cheetah that dimension of the intelligence is designed to make you expand once you have come as a human being this is your issue fundamentally whoever you are whatever you are right now in your life you want to be something more if that something more happens you want to be something more if that's something more happens you want to be something more I'm sure you guys want to set up Google Maps for Mars yes if that happens for the entire universe if it's possible because this is the nature of being human there is one dimension which always wants to expand another dimension which always wants to build walls you build a wall you feel safe after two days you feel you understand the walls of self-preservation are also the walls of self imprisonment you want to break it you break it and you put a new wall there and you think this is great this is freedom after some time you feel that's not it and you want to expand it these two dimensions are not opposing each other they are not diametrically opposite to each other they are complementary there is only one thing about you which needs preservation that's your physicality this body must be preserved because if you break it you can't fix it everything else in you right now suppose I take out all your thoughts all your emotions all your ideas all your philosophy is all your belief systems and thrash them right here break them into pieces you can come up with fresh thoughts fresh emotions fresh belief systems fresh philosophies just like that so all those must be everyday put into the what do you call them the shredder shop you must have a polarizer because shredder means they'll go again pick it up and fix it hmm you must have a pulverizer for yourself before you go to bed today's ideas today starts today's belief systems today's experiences you must leave the dead to the dead let me challenge let me challenge that because I thought something that pavni said was very interesting and she said almost the wound becomes the heel or are you sometimes you hear the wound the wounded become the healer so you can take some of that can't you not transform some of those things that have been difficult and use that energy use your intellect to do something for good so the experience of life can cost two things all this is nice when things small things happen when really major things happen to you the wounds are so big for people they don't heal in a lifetime many of that ok so the choice is just this the experience of life whatever happens to us you can you can either make it into your wound or into wisdom you can either become wise or you can become wounded if you become wise you will become a solution if you become wounded you will also become one more problem this is a choice we have so where does this wisdom come from how do we access if we're so used to using one of these four and probably like most of people in the audience I wasn't even aware of that there's these other dimensions what's the starting point what's a way to access beyond the intellect sees like this right now there is water in this glass this is definitely not you yes yet if you drink it it becomes you what is it that you did with this water that's something that's not you became you when you say inclusiveness this is all you're talking about something that is not you you want to make it a part of you in some way isn't it so this is right now not you but if you drink it it becomes you so what is it that happened technically for you is just this right now I'm asking you you take your right hand all of you take your right hand and touch your left hand is that you hello touch the chair on which you're sitting is that you how do you know this what is the basis of this how do you know this is me and this is not me here there are sensations here there are no sensations or in other words what you are saying is whatever is in the boundaries of my sensation is me whatever is outside the boundaries of my sensation is not me isn't it right now this is not me if I drink it and include it into the boundaries of my sensation this becomes me isn't it now the boundaries of your sensations are such that if you make your life energies very exuberant you will see they will expand if it happened to you suppose it should have happened to many of you there was a moment in your life when you felt so joyful tears came to you did it happen to you you were so joyful and loving tears came to you at such a moment if you take your hand and just put six to eight inches away from your body right here you will feel sensations if such things did not happen to you I can do something horrible to you so that you experience something we can chop off your right leg if you chop off your right leg the leg is gone but still the sensory leg may remain intact for a period of time you heard of this phantom leg like his physical leg is gone but the sensory leg is still there this means sensory body has a structure of its own if your energies become very vibrant and exuberant with the new your sensory body all-expense whatever suppose my sensory body became as big as this now you become a part of me in my experience if it became as big as this Hall all these people become a part of me in my experience because my sensory body has stretched we can do a small experiment you okay to be a guinea hello what we will do is with your eyes closed you have to do this but right now observe me what you do is with your eyes closed just rub this briskly like this for two minutes let me say one minute and bristly okay keep your eyes closed and just hold your thumbs three to four inches away from each other did you ask closed something happening between your hands hello okay please open your eyes so just a little bit of rubbing you didn't do it for a minute either just 20 seconds you rub it and suddenly something happening between these two hands simply because because of vigorous moment the sensory body has expanded you can feel something happening right here you know why people are rubbing each other all the time it's an effort it's an effort to include someone who is not a part of you as yourself if this happens yeah if this happens in a very basic physical level we call this sexuality if it happens emotionally we call this love if it happens mentally it gets labelled as greed and ambition and conquest if it happens on the level of your sensitive body we call this yoga now Yoga means Union Union does not mean you cause the Union anyway it is happening as one you allowed yourself to experience it that means the walls of self-preservation you loosened up a little bit that's all why you want somebody close to you why you want a loud one in your life is somewhere you want to loosen the walls of self-preservation where you don't have to worry about protecting yourself suddenly you feel one with them and once you feel one with them in some way you want to be in touch with them because you're trying to loosen up your sensory body in such a way that you can experience that which is not a part of you as a part of yourself now this need not limited me to be one person or anything like that this need not be biologically connected if you can sit here with your life energies at its peak of exuberance you will experience the whole universe as yourself then we say you're a yogi and you had that experience 34 years ago you talked about it a little bit yesterday I'm just curious for those of us that haven't had a peak experience where we've had this sense of union what what advice what what step would you take if we are that place where we think all right I'm willing to try this out I'm a skeptic I want to don't know what the sensory body is I had a little taste of it here what would be the next step if we wanted to try for ourselves say let's describe what is being skeptic being a skeptic means you don't believe anything unless it truly makes sense to you most people are just downright suspicious but they think they are skeptics no they are not they don't qualify as skeptics this is suspicious about everything this comes from a certain fear within you that everything around you can be wrong suspicions means you made a conclusion about something that you do not know believing something positively or believing something negatively is not different they are the same things you believe something that you do not know if you skeptic means whatever I do not know I do not know I don't assume things in my life what I know I know I think everybody should come to this much sense and straightness in our life that what I know I know what I do not know I do not know it's perfectly fine I do not know it's a tremendous possibility only if you see I do not know the longing to know seeking to know and the possibility of knowing arises so if you are a skeptic you are an ideal candidate if you're a believer we have to make you you know debrief you first shredder out because you assume too many things that you do not know you know the geography of heaven though you can't operate the local google map okay well we'll be taking questions so be thinking about the question you might want to have I think you know one more question I want to ask is how do we we've been talking about some things that are that are very big I think they're they're promising but yet think about the conversation we had earlier and how do we tie these two things together how do they relate in your mind those of you who are interested because right now we must understand this your intellect needs data to function yes or no yelloww without data your intellect is useless it needs data that's why you guys are in the business everybody knows everything in the universe right now because not because they went there and saw it because they googled it up because intellect feels stupid without a day without data now the nature of the intellect is like this only that it feeds upon the data where does the data come to you what you see what you hear what your smell what you taste what you touch in the very nature of things these five sense organs which are the main agents of gathering information for you are all outward bound you can see what's around you you can't roll your eyeballs inward and scan yourself you can hear this so much activity here you cannot hear this if an ant crawls upon your hand you can feel it so much blood flowing you cannot feel it because in the very nature of things your sense organs are outward bound you cannot use these to turn inward there's another dimension of perception which needs to be activated why is it not active in me because the sense organs are instruments of survival they come on when you are born whatever kind of you are anyway it comes on it comes on for a dog big cat elephant for everybody similarly it comes on for us whatever is needed for survival for any biological creature it turns on at the time of birth because it's needed otherwise you won't survive but anything beyond survival process without striving it would not have entered your life isn't it anything that you know from an alphabet to whatever else you know I'm sorry I'm not talking about your brand I'm talking about the real alphabets anything that you know from reading to writing to using a computer or a singing a song or whatever you know these things with certain striving I want you to remember when you're three four years of age that damn a how complicated it was as if it was not good enough there were two versions of it which freaked the hell out of you today you can write with your eyes closed but still there are adults in the world who did not strive in that direction even today you asked them to write they will struggle yes or no without striving anything beyond survival would not enter your life and will not enter your life so turning inward is not a survival process so there are two fundamental dimensions within you instinct of self-preservation longing to expand limitlessly both are true for a human being this is essentially a human problem on the planet no other creature wants to expand limitlessly they are only thinking of survival their stomach full life settle for you stomach empty only one problem stomach full 100 problems yes all your trouble begins after after stomach gets full isn't it because this is longing to expand limitlessly in the evolutionary process we can say this for every other creature nature has drawn two lines within which they live and die they're quite fine but once you become human there is only a bottom line there is no top line so what humanity is suffering and confused about is not their bondage their suffering their freedom what do you do with them Wow all right well I'm gonna invite anyone all these identities yeah of religion race caste creed nationality is they're trying to set their own bondage because no bondage has been given to you by nature you trying to set your own bondage so that you feel secure somehow and so that's part of the the motivation that's driving all these all these identities being identified with the color of your skin with whatever nonsense you believe in and nationality just a cloth a flag people will stand there and tears will come to them isn't it just look at that it really amazes me and it's on one level it's beautiful on another level it's super ugly that you get identified with all these kind of things people cannot get identified with a symbol with a word with just about anything all right so you're trying to create some artificial boundary of your own once you create this boundary and you have another boundary I have my boundary when they meet we clash so if you have a question please go ahead and come to the mic and again we're trying to think about this topic of inclusive consciousness you've heard a lot of things shared from our VPS and also from this conversation so let's hear what's on your mind based on all this over here hello so I'm among I'm involved in organizing a peace conference in India and it's a very grassroots led efforts and no politicians thank God and I found it interesting that you said you stopped attending these conferences so I'd love to hear from you any advice on what we should do or what we should avoid to make this small effort a success for the people who are attending so when you say no politicians thank God you just not attending to the source of problems politicians are not another breed of people a Democratic Society means tomorrow you may become the president of this nation that's what it means yes if you are willing to stick your neck out you may become the president of this country or a prime minister of another country so politician did not drop from the sky he's not some other creature he's just like you and me he stuck his neck out which you and me are not willing to do let's admit this it's not it's not a easy thing it's easy to sit down and comment but it's not an easy thing to try to run a nation it's it's it's complex believe me so you must have politicians but you must have and mas here where it's not political in nature where they will also let their hair down and talk like common citizens or human beings but without them what are you going to change so peace conferences if it's just an entertainment you can gather your friends and have a peace conference but if you want peace in the planet the most important politicians the most powerful politicians in this world must be there only then there is a possibility of peace isn't it otherwise it's just entertainment I'll tell you I was in a very important peace conference they were 42 Nobel laureates each one of them pulling out ten twenty one of them 44 45 pages of printed sheets without even looking up at anybody just went on reading their speech speeches from morning to evening and slowly the hall was becoming peaceful [Applause] I in one afternoon the second day afternoon I am sitting right here in the front row and I look around literally everybody has fallen asleep except the security man who's standing there and me the idiot who is sitting up there and believing there's going to be world peace because of this conference and sitting up there alert listening to every word then I looked around everybody's become very peaceful they've been having late-night parties and they're all very peaceful then when my turn to keep the speak came I said see I've heard so much peace since yesterday I want to ask you can all of you or any of you put your hand on your heart and say you are genuinely peaceful in your life they were straight enough they said no we are not peaceful I said if you cannot make your mind peaceful how the hell are you going to make the world peaceful what's happening in the world is just a larger manifestation of the nonsense that's happening in our heads isn't it if you and me were truly peaceful human beings do we have to worry about you and me fighting some day hello whatever the issues we'll sit down and handle it right because there is violence in us now we have to have a boundary here there's a barricade just in case I get violent or you get violent how about from the side over there hi just a very basic question you mentioned that before we start education of our children we should try and make sure that their identity is the cosmos but how do you do that when we ourselves are so hardwired I mean how do we tell our children that their identity is more when my own thinking is so limited when my own identity is so limited how do I pass something like that to a child when I am not capable of doing that myself anyway whatever you tell your children your children don't listen to you you better if you if you have them on the way I'm telling you for warning you they don't listen to a damn thing that you're saying but do observe you they pick up things from the way you're behaving if you don't show that in your life your teachings will be hated after some time yes many see this is most unfortunate I just see this happening to so many people when they have a child these parents they did everything possible to the child they thought this is their life oh not just changing diapers so many things everything possible they thought they're living for this person as this person becomes bigger and in there over concern about how this child should be trying to teach him the best things in the universe which is not true in their lives slowly you see by the time he becomes a teenager he Awards death if he wants to share something if he wants to listen to some sense he goes to his friends never to his parents not everybody am saying but largely it is happening because they don't make sense they talk things that doesn't make sense people ask me keep asking me shut guru how did you become like this what is the southern are you did you just played your life and you are like this this is all I did I strived remain uneducated it's not easy believe me from the day you were born just everybody around you is trying to teach you something that did not work in their life you can clearly see it's not worked in their life because if you did work they should have been joyful and ecstatic it's not worked they become long-faced but they're teaching you all kinds of best things now the universe it's not going to work you don't have to say a word I will tell you it's ok I can share something I brought up my girl alone at the age of seven she lost her mother so one rule I put she's been traveling is traveling with me since she's four and a half years of age ok I'm sorry since he's four and a half months not years four and a half I sent her to school with little infant she traveled with me and I made one rule wherever I went always stayed with many many families all over the country I always told everybody never teach her anything no ABC no one two three no rhyme no nonsense I don't want anybody to teach her anything people thought this is strange what's that the Guru's and I said just leave her by the time she was 18 months she was speaking three languages fluently because nobody messed with her and she grew up joyfully we went to school everything at the age of 13 something she was disturbed at school and she came back home when one day she said you're teaching everybody so many things you're not telling me anything I said well I don't do anything unsolicited have been waiting it's alright now you come there's only one thing you need to know I said never look up to anybody she looked at me what about you kind of thing in her face I said not even me never look up to anybody never look down on anybody that's all you have to do with life never look up to anything or anybody never look down on anything or anybody suddenly you will see life just the way it is right now something is high something is low something is God something is devil something is virtue something is sin you divided the universe in a million different ways and then you're trying to fix it it's not going to work the instrument which broke the world into pieces is your intellect with that you're trying to fix everything it's not going to work now this racism thing it's it's disastrous that in 21st century everyday there is a shooting I think this has been happening all the time only now because of cell phones and Facebook it's out there and everybody knows I think it's been happening right through all right at one time it was happening legally it's now it's been happening illegally now this kind of things are happening because we are using our intellect to fix the problem you are using a knife to stitch this is not going to work you just live that way whichever way you live your children will grasp it and they'll make a sense out of that in their own way and maybe they'll fall this way or that way because you are not the only influence upon them you better know that you are going to be a mother you must know this you are not the only influence there are all kinds of people and this google Sadhguru you talked about identity and inclusive consciousness so I want to know let's say like you talked about the sensory body and feeling that everyone is part of you kind of thing so where does the role of action comes in so if I do something do identify myself with what I did and let's say if I feel that you are or everyone is part of like me or the whole cosmos and you do something is it you doing something cosmos doing something me doing something whether the action comes in picture see this is the beauty of our existence in this existence in this cosmos we are not even a speck of dust that's small we are but still creation is given as an individuality an individual nature that we can experience these things but countless number of people who lived on this planet before you and me came where are they they're all top soil they become part of that isn't it so if you get it from me today you can transform your life that really everything is a part of you and you are a part of everything not as a thought but experientially if you can experience everything around you as you experience the five ten fingers of your hands then you will see life becomes tremendously beautiful otherwise anyway one day you will get it from the maggots but it'll be a bit too late lesson but any everybody will get it one day isn't it hello when people barriers we're going to get the point that we are part of the earth right now if we get it we can live sensibly so this must come from an experience if you come from a thought again you're thinking how's inclusiveness and individuality existing at the same time that is the beauty of this existence it is the filth which has become the flower isn't it yes or no it is the filth which has become the flower if in your mind filters different flower is different but in existence filth and flower are same they are not different just different ways of existing for your nulls filth doesn't feel good but if you are a pig you would like the filth nothing wrong with that because it's the same thing it's the same thing or no hello it's the same thing isn't it it is just that in our mind in with our intellect we are breaking everything this breaking is only a psychological reality this is not exist actually true see we started a huge moment called project greenhands I think something little bit was there in this this happened like this when I saw that entire southern India was turning into desert very rapidly rivers were drying up groundwater went from like 150 feet to almost 1500 feet and palm trees the Crown's were falling off with that we must do something then I did this to him one day I called you know I went to a small village and called for people about 5000 people turned up so I made the miss around 11 o'clock in the morning the weather won't is won't is not like this in southern India it's hot Summer Sun I made them sit there close by there are about 5 rain trees 3 of them really large ones you seen rain trees some of them can be as large as an acre it's it's shade so three of them are really large ones two of them were medium-sized ones very attractive I would allow to be under those trees but I made them sit here in hot Sun and I went on talking stretching the talk telling them stories telling them jokes they were all very enthusiastic in the beginning slowly if you're walking around you won't feel the Sun if you just sit under the Sun it just really gets you about one and a quarter one and a half hours they were really going away they're thinking what's wrong with the Satguru he was just frying us in the Sun then I said come and I took them under the tree everybody suddenly you know what is a tree otherwise you were thinking how to make furniture out of this now suddenly you know what city I made them sit down there and breathe it's a certain spiritual process that I set up a process for them where I told them what you exhale trees are inhaling what they exhale you are inhaling once they experienced it now you can't stop them from planting trees they planted over 28 million trees and you can't stop them they change the entire culture but when you know this happened to me about ten nine ten years ago I went back to my cell city which had not gone and done any work there I never spoken there I avoided this because my family lives there I wanted to be anonymous in the town not recognized but because of Google and stuff I got recognized everywhere so when I went there they insisted I must do something I called for a program all kinds of people turned up my kindergarten school friends teachers my college teachers school teachers everybody when I spoke and all this happened then my English teacher came up to me from school and she said now I understand why you'd let me teach Robert Frost I said ma'am why would I not let you teach frost I liked Frost I have some poetry in his own voice I said I like Frost why would I not let you teach don't you remember you didn't let me teach Frost then I remembered one day she came up and we were always studying English poems ending you know English literature suddenly she introduced this American poet and said this Robert Frost is a great guy and she started off the point woods are lovely dark and deep I said stop I said a man who calls a tree of wood I'm not going to have anything to do with this guy she said no no Robert Frost is a grey I don't care who the hell is he calls three a wood I am NOT going to listen to the guide and let her teach we chose Longfellow it's a frost because I didn't let her teach Frost that here so I'm saying we if you call a tree of wood it's a commodity this water this earth that you walking from the people that you see these are not commodities this is life isn't it the air that you breathe the water that you drink the soil that you walk upon the trees that you sit under everything else in this world is life and life making material for you if you forget this you will treat it as commodity if you experience this that this is actually what is making your life then you will see the most fantastic thing about this universities everything is one but everything is separate at the same time that's what this gives us an experience that's why I can sit here and talk to you otherwise how to talk to you maybe one more question hi so guru thank you for coming so for me one way to achieve inclusiveness is to see other people as ourselves for example right now I know for sure that you exist within me because your voice happens within my head your image no no no if watches are happening it within your head it means something else so your your image happens within me because it reflects through my eyes you mean to say you have nightmares every day well so so some my point is I see you within me that's and that's I know for sure but I wonder whether you see me within you as well and if you answer yes or no then that may be a belief because how do I know it's true see there are two levels of reality here there is a psychological reality and there's an existence of reality exists an shal reality is not you're making psychological realities entirely you're making but a large part of it is unconsciously made so you believe it is real whatever is true in your psychological reality may have some social relevance but has no existence you'll realize right now if I say you're within me you'll feel good if I say I love you you'll feel good maybe it's true for me maybe it's true for you but it's not floating around anywhere here okay it's just my emotion and your emotion yes it is nice that our emotions are sweet our thoughts are sweet our actions are sweet it's wonderful if it is so but it has only psychological and and social relevance it has no existence already means if you want to know life you have to step out of this bubble called psychological reality and step into existence your reality then only you have a taste of life otherwise you are just a bundle of thoughts emotions ideas opinions and now I am there in the in all that so what I would tell all of you is instead of thinking about it instead of analyzing it an experiential dimension has to happen if you are willing to dedicate 28 to 30 hours of focus time we will give you tools with which you can make this happen for yourself this is not some empty talk this has happened to millions of people this is worked and I must tell you first 21 years of my work as a rule I never appeared in the media of course I didn't have a website never put up one poster or banner or even a brochure only by word of mouth millions of people came obviously it must have worked for them to bring their family and friends and now I'm not promising any miracle I am NOT taking you to heaven I am Telling You the source of all your problems is you not somebody else I'm saying it's hard talk it is not some miraculous promise of going to heaven some la-la-land is there and everything will be fine for you know in spite of that people came because they've saw the transformation within themselves and people around them had to come there was no other way so I'm saying this is a technology of well-being we are handling our external well-being in a scientific way through many means of Technology why is it that we are so crippled when it comes to our in theory or 'ti we are trying to handle it through our emotions we are trying to handle it through our philosophies we are trying to handle it through our ideologies and belief systems now it's time you approach this human mechanism in a scientific manner how to make this into a full-fledged possibility see every life in this world is only trying to become a full-fledged life whether it's a worm or an insect or a bird or an animal or a tree all they're striving for is to become full-fledged but we know what is a full-fledged worm we know what is a full-fledged insect we know what is full-fledged everything but we do not know what is a full-fledged human being because even if I make you the king or queen of this planet tomorrow still you will aspire for the stars because there is something within you which is longing to become in finite if you are longing for infinite you can't go about conquering space it's not going to get you there the finiteness to you has come to you only because your identification with your physicality because the nature of physicality is a defined boundary without a defined boundary there is no physical nature but is it true that this physical body you slowly accumulated is it true or were you born like this you accumulated this what you accumulate can be yours it can never ever be you or in other words you are living your life without experiencing the life that you are even for a moment your entire involvement is with your physiology and psychology it's time it changes that you experience the life that you are this life that you are doesn't come with boundaries it's only the body it is boundaries and you must stick to the boundaries it's very important don't expand it too much thank you very much thank you so much so good thank you thank you all [Music] [Music] you [Music]
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Channel: Scientific Spirituality with Sadhguru
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Length: 63min 44sec (3824 seconds)
Published: Thu Jan 31 2019
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