Sacraments #13: What's Wrong with the Sacrament of the Sick? w/ Fr. Reuter

you're listening to the sspx podcast and welcome to episode 13 in our sacrament series and our second episode on extreme unction father stephen reuter is back to compare and contrast the traditional right and the new right now called the sacrament of the sick last week we suggested that this is not a sad sacrament but a joyful one however we also tried to emphasize the seriousness of this moment for the soul as they are entering their final earthly battle we'll take these concepts from last week and look at the new rite of this sacrament is it really preparing our loved ones for this most critical moment before eternity is it focusing the prayers of the priest on the soul's eternal salvation instead of just on physical well-being and is the new right valid if it is valid why are we saying that there's still something wrong with the sacrament of the sick while the reuter answers these questions and more over the next 50 minutes if you like these series and want to help us continue make them you can help by leaving a small monthly or one-time donation on ssbxpodcast.com or by subscribing to this channel on youtube or by subscribing and leaving a rating for the podcast wherever you're listening and thank you for helping us with this apostolate to reach as many people as possible with the beauty and the truth of what it means to be a traditional catholic now let's join father ruder for episode 13 of the sacrament series right now welcome back to the sspx podcast our next episode on the sacrament series with father steven reuter hi father how are you i'm well andrew how are you doing very well thank you um happy to have you back to discuss our second part of the sacrament of extreme unction uh last week we looked at basically what is the sacrament of extreme function what is the meaning behind it and today we're going to be doing sort of a compare contrast of the old right the traditional right and the new right is that correct that's correct we'll look at the new rite of extreme unction which was came into effect in the church in 1973 at that time it was given the name the sacrament of the sick and it replaced for the church the traditional sacrament of extremism and the comparison between the two rights does show a stark contrast extrimunction as it is called in the traditional rite prepares the soul for the final battle with the world the flesh and the devil and it prays to heal the soul from the wounds the diseases which the soul has received throughout its life sin and notably and primarily the consequences of sin so really extramuction is seen as the the final strengthening in this great battle and so so that the soul emerges victoriously so it's fortified in this final battle and it's a continuation of that same spirit of strengthening and that same spirit of fighting against the devil which is manifest in all the other traditional sacraments the sacrament of the sick as it's called does refer to the healing of the soul but it primarily refers to the healing of the body physical pain psychological pain so in fact what we're seeing is a bit of an inversion of the order we saw last week and very clearly that the first object is the healing of the soul and secondarily and to the extent necessary the healing of the body when that's necessary for the healing of the soul but here we really see a change of focus which is an expression of naturalism which has pervaded society for the last few centuries so in the in the sacrament of the sick as it's called now um is it is it similar to the holy sacrifice of mass the holy christ and similar to baptism where there are lots of different options or is it pretty much set in stone like the traditional like the traditional right yes true to to form so to speak all the new sacraments have many options and encourage creativity and so before to compare the two right side by side we can note just how many options there are in the introduction prayer introductory prayer we have two options already and then when it comes to confession there's in fact eight options which the priest can choose from and then there's the liturgy of the word in which there are three options the blessing of the oils there's two options the anointing we can say two options the prayer after the anointing we have seven options in the very our father there's already two options on how to introduce the our father and the conclusion of the right also offers four options so we do see again this creativity these options being given to the minister in the other sacraments we've seen that there are these motivations behind why the changes happened whether it's ecumenism or the new theology or or what have you are these kind of the same reasons for the changes in the sacrament as well yes all of the the new the new rites of the sacraments are an expression of at a very radical level naturalism we see this naturalism pervading the church but the more proximate motive is that of ecumenism trying to please the protestants the heretics trying to remove a stumbling block from those who don't accept catholic theology so that's ultimately you know the most proximate reason for these changes is is that motive of ecumenism and in this case we'll see primarily trying to bring in elements of the anglican and lutheran liturgies or prayer services for the dead and hopefully in their mind to make this sacrament which otherwise is not accepted by the lutherans or the anglicans to make the sacrament more acceptable to them we don't often hear of sacraments or sacramental type ceremonies being done by by protestants so lutherans and anglicans both had some sort of a sacrament for the sick like this yes or worst thing of the sick yes it's not the same theology behind it of course but the 1549 book of common prayers has the order for the visitation of the sick and since 1928 the anglicans extended this right to anoint the dying as well as the sick and already here we notice that the name in the new rite reflects the name of the anglican ceremony so we have the sacrament of the sick now and the anglicans had the visitation of the sick and the lutherans likewise had a ceremony a type of liturgy a prayer service for commending the dying souls and we'll see as we make some comparisons that elements of both of these these ceremonies are incorporated into the catholic sacrament of the anointing of the sick okay so that's the that's kind of the background of of why the changes um happened um i guess can we start to look at these two ceremonies the two liturgies or i guess liturgies isn't the right word but these two sacraments side by side um and on on the screen we will put up on graphics so that people can see side by side um as well great yes that's that's where we'll go i think it's worthy to note just before that that the beginning of the write the ritual sets kind of the precedent kind of gives the theme and so it's always good to look at the beginning to see where are we going and we do see in the the new right the orientation is changed and does put the focus on the body as we already mentioned and also puts a focus on the whole community the whole community is their present and we'll see throughout the traditional right we are always praying with the community these different prayers but the focus is that person who's dying and we're all praying for them we ask for blessings for everybody because we're all there but we are praying for that soul who is in their final battle or who's approaching their final battle so we'll start with the introduction the traditional rite is very beautiful and it's very simple the priest arrives at the the place of the sick person often the dying person and there are many references to the home in the traditional right because it was taken for granted that at this most solemn occasion the most important moment of our life in many ways we're at home surrounded by our loved ones with the priest we see the sacrament which is a beautiful and normal way to pass from this life to the next so the priest comes in he arrives and he says peace be in this home so we're praying for the peace of god in this home and all who live here he then is given directions which are very specific which again we don't see in the new rite of sacramento the specific directions the priest places the oil of the infirm on a table he has a linen laid out he vests in a surplus and violet stole he then takes the crucifix and presents it to the patient to kiss devoutly so this idea of bringing jesus christ to souls which is what the sacraments are he sprinkles holy water in the sign of the cross on the patient and on the bystanders and he prays the penitential psalm of king david that famous psalm 50 which we often pray which reminds us that we are sinners and so purify me with a hip stop o lord i shall be cleansed of my sins wash me and i shall be whiter than snow have mercy on me god in thy great kindness so we're asking for mercy we're asking for purification because we are sinners and so it's very clear jesus christ in the crucifix psalm 50 we need to be purified of our sins the new right we see the focus is you know very different there's two options as we mentioned option one is let this water call to mind our baptism into christ who by his death and resurrection has redeemed us so again there's nothing theologically wrong with that statement but in the context it's very lacking so this first press prayer gives the impression that the death of christ has already saved us which does correspond to the protestant notion of redemption that redemption is done god has justified us we're saved by faith alone and there's no need for what we call in catholic theology subjective redemption which means ministers have to apply that redemption to souls or souls have to pray so as to receive that redemption so yes christ did die on the cross and saved us from our sins but that grace is applied through human instruments and even once we've had the faith we can still lose sanctifying grace we can still be saved so here we do see a catering to the protestant theology if you can call it theology by which there's no focus on that work of the minister our need for redemption and instruments which brings that redemption then option two like a stream in a parched land may the grace of the lord refresh our lives so again a beautiful reality without grace we're parched we need grace but it's not speaking of the grace as specific to the sacrament which is healing the wounds of our soul we remember that in all the sacraments a great grace is applied in a very specific way and this sacrament is to heal the remnants of sin there's no reference to that in this prayer it's of simple refreshment which is not all we need when we're dying we need to be healed of the sins and the remnants of sin so in the traditional right there's there's specific instructions on what the priest should do uh when he enters the room home hospital whatever are there specific instructions in the in the new right also it does give the next part of the new right is an instruction it's not a instruction in the sense of telling the priest what to do is more of an instruction for the faithful the instructional priest gives the faithful but um we can certainly look at that now which in the traditional right we see later at the end a bit of instruction in telling the people what happened but this is a change from the old to new right so the new right gives an instruction that resembles really the lutheran service in which we see a lot of emphasis on the community and a focus on bodily health so we can read parts of that my dear friends we are gathered here in the name of the lord jesus christ who is present among us as the gospel relates the sick came to him for healing moreover he loves us so much that he died for our sake through the apostle james he has commanded us are there sick amongst you let them send for the priests of the church and let the priests pray over them anointing them with oil in the name of the lord and the prayer of faith will save the sick person and the lord will raise him up and if they have committed any sins they will be forgiven let us therefore commend our sick brother or sister to the grace and power of christ that he may save him or her and raise him or her up so again nothing obviously against the faith but the focus and again this is the introduction this is how the priest is introduced introducing the sacrament to the dying person is about healing the body there is the reference to saint james and healing the souls we can't go too far here we recognize that if you read that 90 of it plus is referring to raising up healing the body and then again that's part of extreme unction but that's not the primary purpose we're not going to live forever no matter what in the sacraments for that final battle with the world the flesh and the devil so the traditional right at this point doesn't have a corresponding instruction for the faithful the traditional right jumps right into what we're doing which is prayer and fighting the devil and this prayer which the traditional right gives really shows what's going on during the sacrament so we'll pray we'll recite some of that prayer so along with our lowly coming so the priest refers to himself as a minister you know he's a instrumental cause a separated instrumental cause so he's referring to himself as that a lowly minister but he is in the order of causality which brings god's grace along with our lowly coming o lord jesus christ jesus christ who's the conjoined instrumental cause through whom all the sacraments receive their power let their enter into this home unending happiness so eternal happiness we're saying divine on blessings joy a charity which is fruitful continual health so we are praying for continual health but you see that it's after all the spiritual blessings then drive away from this place the evil spirit so again we're in conflict with the devil that the angel of peace come hither we believe in the angels and banish all harmful discussion from this house so then the prayer finishes as all prayers finished so sanctify the coming of your unworthy servant for thou art holy thou art kind thou art abiding with the father and the holy spirit and all eternity so we see that prayer which right after the priest comes in and prays the psalm of king david he puts down the holy oils stole us on the violet he starts to pray for spiritual healing and the people are following along because we do pray in latin the people are following along and they see that this is this is a real battle this is a serious moment yeah it's a striking just again that that correspond and again nothing nothing quote unquote wrong with the prayer that it said in the new rite it's a beautiful prayer it's very nice um but there's that distinct difference of of intent between healing of the body and healing of the soul exactly and again we live in this materialistic naturalistic world where everybody everybody considers health their primary good the only thing they fear is physical death and this doesn't help this doesn't help the whole orientation of the world and then there's two more prayers the priest does pray which are also very beautiful let us pray to our lord jesus christ and beseech him to bless with his abundant benediction this home and all who dwell herein so we do we we pray for all those who are in the home may appoint over them a good angel as a guardian and assist them to serve him to contemplate the grandeur of his law may he turn away all power that would harm them free them from anxiety and distress so the church is aware there is anxiety and distress which is a natural thing keep them in well-being within their home so all the elements are there even the elements of the body psychological elements but they're in their proper place that's what's key then the final prayer during this section let us pray hear us o lord father almighty eternal god in dane to send thy holy angel from heaven to guard cherish protect and defend all who dwell in this home so in these prayers we see the priests praying for all things that the patient needs but praying for them in their proper order it's very beautiful um in the sacrament of extra motion there is and correct me if i'm wrong if i'm understanding this properly there's almost a space carved out within it for a second sacrament which is the sacrament of confession and we should not confuse the fact that oftentimes confession is done if the patient is conscious obviously um that this is part of extreme function as a whole it is two different sacraments but they are kind of uh confession is kind of sandwiched inside motion is that correct yes yep in the traditional right the priest after the introduction after the specific prayers we just recited he does offer the patient confession and confession is meant to be um the patience meant to go to confession because extra motion is a sacrament of the living so as all the normal rights which you saw a few episodes ago about confession they're all offered to the patient and he is to to take advantage of them of course often the person's unconscious in that case then if they are in the state of mortal sin the sacrament of the living which extra function is becomes the sacrament of the dead by accident we can say and it does take away the guilt of mortal sin but we do always offer and ask the person to go to confession and it'd be very strange for somebody who cares about eternal salvation about to meet our lord said i don't really want to go to confession whereas that's exactly what the new right has done it's really taken the focus off this sacrament of confession which we see all throughout the new rites is we see public confessions which is offered to the person or the people because now it's often given in the church for everybody over a certain age so public confession or skip confession altogether general absolution which again is all very risky because the sacrament of extramuction is a sacrament of the living and it only works to take away sin to the extent that we were unable to go to confession you can't just say you know what i don't want to confess these mortal sins therefore i'm just going to skip confession and let extra motion do it that wouldn't do it it would be to abuse the sacrament and put your eternal soul in grave grave danger right and so yes confession is is not considered necessary in the new right it can be skipped very easily so no emphasis on the sacrament of confession instead of what it does and this is very telling is it skips directly to the liturgy of the word which again is something we see in the new mass the new rites all this focus on the word of god well as catholics we have great devotion to the word of god we praise scripture every day we hope at least the priests do and hopefully the faithful we meditate upon the word of god we've realized the word of god is a two-edged sword we know that all the word of god is edifying but what the protestants do is they say only the word of god and then of course they interpret the word of god through their own destruction so here we see this focus on the word of god so after the confession is performed maybe in the new right or skipped they then introduced this this element which we do see in the lutheran prayer service the word of god and where in the lutheran service there was one one part of scripture proposed mark chapter two the new rite of course for variety adds a few more and they're beautiful quotes of course it's the word of god jesus can forgive us our sins and reconcile us with god okay so let's meditate upon that jesus can forgive our sins and reconciles with god but why meditate upon that after skipping going to confession right so that's a very protestant ideas jesus directly forgives our sins of course we're not saying that the the new right is saying all these things but it's implying that the word of god is more important than sacramental confession at this very crucial moment of a person's life and so this is very much an ecumenical move in the new right to shift the focus from sacramental confession which the protestants do not accept and put the focus on jesus directly forgiving sins which of course the protestants do accept okay yeah it is interesting and and like you said even if it's not directly implying that idea it's not forceful in saying you know the the truth um it's it's almost sitting by a mission again just even to be as as uh fair as possible to the new right it's it's not as foreign and we are our environment so to speak if the priest is constantly skipping confession for the penitent if the people aren't going to confession it creates a lukewarmness it creates an idea of redemption which is not true and much of the new right like with the new mass much of the problems with the new right or by way of omission and when we omit key documents which which teach key controversial truths well the consequence is finally going to be that we no longer accept these truths with all their integrity or no longer live them as we ought and that's constantly the problem right well what what happens next in in the sacrament father next there's the litany and we do see a parallel you can show them on the screen side by side in the traditional right the priest invites all presents who pray for the sick person in their final battle and the church as a solicitous mother gives us very specific prayers she wants us to pray specifically the seven penitential psalms of king david so these psalms by which king david expressed he was a sinner in need of god's mercy right david is the extraordinary penitent he committed a double grave sin of adultery and murder but through his penance he was healed so this is reminding us that we all to some extent are like king david we're sinners but we all hopefully like king david are repenting and these psalms are meant to inspire us to really have the spirit of repentance so the faithful will pray the seven potential psalms but also the litany of the saints because the saints are where we want to be and we are where they were they know the struggle we're going through and we believe in their intercession again unlike the protestants we believe in their intercession and therefore the seven potential psalms and this full litany of the saints really disposes the soul who's being prayed for he hears the litany hears the prayers and also calls down the grace from heaven upon the soul and so that's you know the next step in preparation for the anointing which the priest will soon do the new rite does have a parallel but it abbreviates the litany of the saints and we can see in some of the prayers we see reflections of the anglican prayers in fact and it does not invoke the saints so there's a brie rated litany without invoking the saints and then it gives four other prayers and three of them are about bodily health again and just to give a little tidbit of each one so we're praying for physical healing freedom from harm relief from suffering and finally freedom from sin and temptation so we do see it's there we do pray to be freed from sin and temptation in these four prayers which replace all the prayers of the litany and the penitential psalms but 75 of these prayers are referring to something bodily something temporal and only 25 to sin temptation and also it adds prayers for the caregivers the nurses so showing all this care for those who are attending to the dying and of course is an act of corporal work of mercy we want to pray for them but that's not the purpose of the sacrament we're not there to pray specifically for them we're there to give grace to this soul and then there's in preparation again what we're doing now as in all sacraments is the rights prepare us to receive the sacrament in itself so the sacraments just like mass if there's no ritual surrounding it would take a couple minutes or a minute but that'd be very disrespectful and it would question even our intention to do what the church does so all these rights are disposing the soul to be more prepared to receive the healing of the soul so we keep that in mind as we move along there's this progression by which we're preparing the soul to be anointed preparing the soul to to meet our lord ultimately but more proximally to have that faith and that contrition that faith in god's mercy that sorrow for offending god and so the next step would be the priest lays his hand upon the head of the patient which we see of course christ laying his hands upon people blessing them at the laying of the hands and the traditional rights the priest extends his his right hand above the head of the sick person and prays in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost may all power of the devil become extinct in you through the laying of my hand and through the invocation of the glorious and blessed virgin mary mother of god and saint joseph her illustrious spouse and all the holy angels archangels patriarchs prophets apostles martyrs confessors virgins and all other saints so our lady the patron of the dying and all of these saints all of our patrons all those who've gone before us we're praying that they intercede for us in a certain sense we're praying that they stand between us and the devil because they have power over the devils we're praying that they stand between us and the devil and again it shows our our faith in the intercession of our lady the mediators of all grace saint joseph the patron of the dying our particular patron saints and the angels and here we see an extraordinary disappointment i would say with the prayer of the new right which replaces this is god so i'm sorry doesn't say god just it says give life and health to our brother or sister on whom we lay our hand in your name lord have mercy so we see that powerful prayer and then side by side give life and hell to our brother and sister on whom we lay our hand in your name so life and health are they referring to spiritual life or just temporal life i would say that it's tending to just temporal life no reference to eternal life blessed virgin mary saint joseph the patron of the dying all the angels and saints in fact it's very ecumenical take away everything which offends the protestants so it's an easy prayer for the protestants to pray right like you said it is it is disappointing when you were when you were reciting the other prayer i literally got goosebumps because it's just so powerful you're just calling on all of heaven to come down through the power of of the the placing of the priest's hand yep and then it's just kind of false flat yeah then it was sort of yeah one and it really is i would say i mean we give sacraments of course every day but performing extra motion is one of the most moving ceremonies we do because you are you you you are in the final battle with the soul you know that eternity is hanging in a balance based off what you do as a lowly instrument you recognize that you know we know what saint paul says we chastise our bodies and bring them into submission lest after preaching to others we are cast away i mean how many priests save so many souls but could be lost and and are lost so sure we're there as a humble servants but we're in an incredible battle with the devil it's very moving it's very moving right can we speak a little bit further about the oil of the infirm we we didn't talk about this uh last last episode um but just to kind of speak a little bit about the the oil which is the the matter of the sacrament yeah that is used here yes so in the traditional right the oil and firm is solemnly blessed by the bishop at the christmas massinoy thursday i'm sure many people will have seen this ceremony or now live streamed at one of the ceremonies at one point it's a very solemn and moving ceremony that elevates the oil to be an instrument of the holy ghost really is an instrument of the holy ghost and the solemnity of the ceremony helps us to realize how holy these oils are and how we must treat them with great respect the priest must keep the holy oils in a special place it's like a tabernacle and treat them with the utmost respect and so that's traditionally where the holy oils would come from and traditionally it's always the diocese bishop as i think we mentioned last time who would bless them for all people in their diocese so you would go to the diocesan bishop to get your oils and it would show your link to the church through the ordinary jurisdiction through the diocese and bishop okay um but then obviously this is not a normal situation for the society saint pius the tenth so how do you father as a priest of the sspx how do you get your oils yes due to the crisis in the church the crisis and the faith it's morally impossible to get our oils from the diocese bishops and that's for two reasons one is we have real doubts about the validity of oil which is blessed which is not olive oil we know that paul vi changed that but he gave no doctrinal reasons on changing it we also know that if christ established the sacraments with olive oil which was the common opinion for you know for centuries if christ established the sacraments using olive oil then that's necessary for validity the pope can change things which pertain to his his limited power but not if christ used olive oil in their institution which we for all reasons to think he did so that's one reason is you know if they're using oils which are not olive oil we doubt the validity of those oils second reason is you know because of our irregular situation because of the crisis of faith it would be very difficult to always try to find bishops who would give us oil and therefore in keeping with the solemnity and the spirit of the church our auxiliary bishops at beautiful pontifical ceremonies at the seminaries consecrate these oils for the members of the society and then from the seminaries these oils are sent to every corner of the world and the priests use these oils consecrated by our auxiliary bishops okay and there can be a case where let's say we run out of oil or we come across a dying person and we don't have the oils with us because we don't carry them everywhere we go we carry them when they're needed because we have to carry them with great solemnity you know you don't put them in your briefcase and just keep them with you all the time right and therefore it can happen where you come across a dying person who's catholic who needs extra motion well in 1960 the congregation of riots gave priests who have this real necessity they're in front of a dying person who needs extra motion the congregation of rights gave permission for such priests to to bless oil in the firm for that particular sacrament at that particular time and so we do lean on and use that permission given from the sega congregation in 1960 in order to because the sacraments are four men and four men salvation so you see how the church is very merciful she knows a priest can be in a situation where somebody's dying and they they need extra motion so the church does want to accommodate that and that's in accordance with let me see the spirit of the church because even before 1960 the pope would give permission certain priests to bless oils so we see there's no real question of validity there it's been in the spirit of the church for for a very long time that a priest can bless the oil and firm when necessary okay and so this is this is very similar to what we saw with father goldaddy in the sacrament of confirmation where he expressed uh concerns about you know if if it's not olive oil is being used that does start to call into question some of uh the validity of the sacrament here same thing we just don't want to mess with uh the possibility you know maybe the local diocese used canola oil or whatever sunflower you may not know that and so you don't want to err on on that exactly because people have the right to know that sacraments are valid and when it comes to the validity of sacraments we're always to take this safer course you don't play with these instruments that christ instituted as channels to give grace you have to just take the safer course and do what what we're sure gives grace and that also of course gives people great peace of mind you don't want to be dying wondering if you're really being anointed or wondering if you're confirmed you want to know this is valid matter as the church has always seen it to be valid okay so then we move on to the actual anointing and this is the actual sacrament itself right here is that correct yes the anointing is the sacrament itself and we'll look first at the traditional right the priest and we mentioned this already but it's it's really moving it's beautiful it's worthy for consideration the priest dips the thumb of his right hand and the oiled infirm and anoints with the sign of the cross the specific parts of the body so the ritual says where to anoint and gives the words by this holy anointing then sign of the cross and by his tender mercy may the lord forgive you all the evils you have done through the power of sight and that's when of course he's anointing the eyes and then he goes the power of hearing the ears the sense of smell the nose the power of speech the lips sense of touch the hands and the ability to walk so yes by this holy anointing and his tender mercy may the lord forgive you all the evil you have done so the focus is you have used these senses you've used your eyes your ears your nose your mouth your feet your hands you've used them to offend god you have wounds in your soul because of the way you used these parts of your body and therefore applying this holy ointment which contains the holy ghost to these parts of the body so that god in his tender mercy takes away the remnants of sin and takes away if sin be present any sin which is there so that's the actual anointing and we mentioned before that in the case of extreme necessity somebody's really dying on the side of the road and you have you know 30 seconds to get to them you would just use one anointing on the forehead with a specific um prayer which the church gives so we do see that so the novus alright has all these variations skip confession if you want all these options the traditional right does not have all those options variations but as a good mother she knows there are cases where we have 30 seconds to anoint somebody so she says this is what you have to do in these cases and so she is accommodating to these situations but otherwise we just follow the entire ritual as given by the church then the new right unfortunately has also changed the form of the sacrament which is again tragic it's one thing to change all the rights around the sacrament but to change the form is certainly very disappointing so first the priest anoints the forehead saying through this holy anointing may the lord in his love and his mercy help you with the grace of the holy spirit amen so not nearly as beautiful doesn't talk about the sin it's it's definitely leaves much to be desired and when you look at it side by side tender mercy holy anointing forgive you all your evils it's not there but as a form it does express grace being conveyed so we're not questioning necessarily the validity obviously we're just saying it's it's doesn't have all the elements we'd like to see then he anoints the hand saying may the lord who frees you from sin save you and raise you up so a direct reference to sin there's the sign of anointing with a reference to sin but may the lord save you and raise you up is that physically or is that spiritually it's not very clear there's an under emphasis on sin and it's a bit obscure and then there's this option which i think really shows that they are thinking more of bodily health and spiritual health the priest may anoint any other part of the body such as an injury so in the traditional right the senses are chosen the eyes ears nose mouth hands and feet because those are really the instruments which we use to sin so they're chosen so as to heal the wounds of the soul which came through those parts of the body now by saying well anoint any part of the body which has a wound well that shifts everything to a physical healing rather than a spiritual healing so we think that does show a shift of focus which is not is not in the spirit of the nutritional form of extreme function oh yeah it's um again presumably valid yes um if the proper oils are used etc the intention is there the the matter the form all that stuff is there but there's there's a lot to be desired like you said um so there are uh some prayers afterwards uh both in the new right and in the in the traditional right yes there's certain prayers which are are prayed in both rights in the new rite it's it's said that they're in order to give clarity to what happened which is interesting because we know the reason paul vi gave for changing the right was to give clarity and now after all these options and changes we need more clarity which is very much like you know vatican ii and all these ambiguous documents which are constantly clarified so the church in fact offers seven prayers here we'll just mention maybe four of them because there's a lot to read but seven prayers to give clarity to what was happened of course in the traditional rite it was very clear what happened the anointing was very clear what happened so here are some of the options option one through this holy anointing grant the name of the person comfort in his or her suffering when he she is afraid give courage when afflicted give patience when dejected give hope when alone give the support of your holy people again it's a beautiful prayer but is very much natural you know when of course hope is a supernatural virtue but the emphasis is not on the supernatural option two this is more in harmony with the nature of the sacrament by the grace of the holy spirit cure the weakness of your servant heal his or her sickness and forgive his or her sins expel all affliction of mind and body enable him or her to resume former duties so we do see at least reference to the grace of the holy spirit the weakness but a big emphasis on resuming former duties option three contains the singular reference in the new right to fighting evil so good option three of the priests prays that it shows he really believes in fighting evil but it doesn't mention the devil which is the really the primary enemy at that moment we know at the moment of death the devil is a roaring lion seeking one to devour we want all that we can all the grace we can to fight this devil then option four um refers to the caregivers and a lot of prayers for the other people so we won't go through all of them for the sake of time but you can certainly put them all in the subtitles there or them in the text and then we move to the our father and that's the next prayer and the traditional right so she doesn't have specific prayers to bring clarity to the right but she does move to the our father and both rights do have the our father the traditional right says the our father as she always does there's no no no variety the new right has two options for introducing the our father one let us offer together the prayer our lord jesus christ taught us fine option two and now let us say with confidence as our lord has commanded so why two options which are so similar just the idea of option creativity it's certainly very telling and and takes away from that solemnity of the ritual as we know it right it is interesting father when you were when you were going over those uh those prayers after the anointing that are in the the new right um you know someone who is a big fan of the new right and the more i guess i could say the humanistic aspects of it would say oh well that's good because you know the priest is being more compassionate and is saying specific prayers for you know he's able to adapt to a specific situation and and i guess my my pushback and correct me if i'm wrong father is well father you would do the the sacrament of extremism as it's prescribed but then afterwards or before you're you're going to be charitable and you're there you're caring you're going to say some prayers with the family with the caregivers with the you're going to say some of these prayers or you're going to speak about some of these things it's not like the priest is a robot you come in and do this and then there's no charity or or compassion of course you have compassion at least i think you do i think you're a nice guy father we try but nice is ultimately i mean getting people to heaven and so but no it's often the case especially when the person it can't respond well we usually spend some time speaking in their ear trying to help them realize how dangerous their situation is the mercy of god so no we do spend time with souls and i mean there's been times when people are they can't speak where we spent you know hours and hours with them and holding their hand and talking to them trying to get some reaction so we know that they want to receive the sacrament so no we we must be full of compassion we must take time with souls but we'll do that before the sacrament begins so as to make sure they're disposed for the sacrament um when they are in a state where they can't really um communicate with us and we can also do it after the sacrament the sacraments you know a very sacred sign right instituted by christ and also we have to know the church knows what's best for us of course the children of human element as we've seen in the crisis series has human beings who fail constantly and we all are sinners but the church as our mother knows what we need at that moment and she crafted these prayers which are full of theology they are very serious they're in order to bring the grace she knows we need and we do need to have this sense of relying on our mother when we're dying to receive the graces that she wants to give us because she is the teacher you know of all mankind as our lord said the apostles go teach all nations well in the liturgy she's teaching us she's teaching us what's most important right now and she's guarding the validity of the sacrament which is very important as well right i just want to make sure i bring that up in case there are some watching who are not familiar with the traditional right um you know in in my own case my when my mother passed away some years back there was one of our priests was there and spent like you said like an hour with her speaking with her and talking comforting her and then he did the and then he did the sacrament yep um because you know that part is not in the ritual exactly that's that's obvious that's compassion that's you're a pastor you're supposed to do that yes exactly we give them all the time that they need especially at that time in their life right right well that was a little sidebar thank you for uh thank you for indulging that um next we get to the conclusion of the right father yes so the traditional extreme unction continues to obey god that the son of iniquity the devil has no power over the soul and finally sprays praise explicitly for physical health as well so we're fighting the son of iniquity we're fighting the principalities and powers of hell the devil and we also to the extent that it helps the soul to heaven we pray for physical health so the novus oro sacrament of the sick has four options here four conclusions you can choose from so again it's true to her variety the first one asks for a blessing and healing a blessing and healing is it a spiritual blessing we hope so but there's again the reference is not it's not clear and then the second may the lord guide you and give you strength may he watch over you and give you peace okay well we want strength we want peace it's there but is it eternal peace the traditional right when she speaks of peace it's it's unending peace third option may god of all consolation bless you in every way and grant you hope all the days of your life may the lord restore you to health and grant you salvation so here finally we have a direct reference to salvation so hopefully the pen intent the patient here's option three and if he or she does there will be a direct reference to salvation but um that's only after praying for health again so the inversion of the order remains to the end and then find the fourth option is if the whole eucharist is still present because of course the atticum can be given which we didn't bring in but biaticum is often given if it is their final moment in the traditional rite and then there is the final apostle blessing we do at the moment of death which to which is attached and planetary indulgence so there are things we do after the actual sacrament itself the aviatic chemin apostolog blessing so there's a reference to the fact that there may be the whole eucharist left which when we take the whole eucharist as a biotic and we take as many particles are needed which is usually one for the dying person so right um so i'm not sure what in their right would um would indicate there'd be extra hosts left but they give a blessing with the remaining host um so that was that was my next question so viaticum is given to the to the sick person if they were able to receive it after the sacrament is is completed yeah yeah okay yeah it came in an apostolic blessing and of course it's so often we give last rites extra function without the biaticum because vatican's meant to be their final holy communion so so extra function is given as soon as there is some sickness which will lead to death but the atticum is when all right this is it we don't suppose they'll live much longer this will be the last holy communion that's given as vatican and it's okay to accompany them on the way the way from this life to the next and we give an apostolic blessing by which um we ask that from the treasures of all the of all the merits of all the saints in heaven that from that treasury the church pours upon them the merits needed to to make reparation for all their sins before they die okay so that's basically kind of a blow-by-blow of of both of the rights um we've we've already discussed this a little bit but to kind of end our discussion father should we hold uh or is it the opinion uh of of yours and of the society simply extent that this uh the new right of the sacrament of the sick is is it a valid way of receiving extra function yes we don't recommend that people receive it as such but as long as the matter is valid that's the biggest question like with confirmation we doubt the the oil and firm made from non-olive oil so as long as olive oil is used in making the oils then all the other elements are present for validity um so as that's our that's our position on the sacrament i think it's worthy to note that the creativity in a certain sense is an enemy to validity it doesn't invalidate it necessarily but we've seen many scandals recently where priests were baptizing and changing the very form well why did they do that there's probably different reasons but i think one reason is the fact that they're able to be creative in everything surrounding the sacrament so if they're constantly given the license to be creative what prevents them from extending that creativity to the form itself so we do think that this creativity is a problem and also the traditional sacraments really just tell the priest through the beauty of the prayers through the theology which is expressed it really forms the priest to know what he's doing and we think that these new forms do lack something and hurt the priest but we're not doubting the validity in itself we're just saying that this creativity we think is an enemy to performing the sacraments as they ought because we know that a priest intends to do what the church does when he meticulously and solemnly follows the ritual now we have a ritual which encourages creativity so it's problematic but we do hold the sacraments when the proper matter is present to be valid okay well this has been very interesting and and it's great to to review this this is um i don't want to say it's an underrated sacrament but you know people don't really think about extra function because it's thinking about death and but it is really a beautiful uh sacrament and worthy to be um meditated on and thought about it yes i think in fact it's a good thing to to reflect upon it meditate on the prayers you can find the prayers i'm sure online or and before it's time for death is to reflect upon these prayers because they do teach us the dispositions of soul we want to have when we die yeah and just quickly thank you father for uh for for performing this sacrament uh and for all the care that you're giving uh to faithful during this time it's um we owe you all a huge debt of gratitude for being there for us so thank you you're welcome it's certainly our pleasure all right thank you father we'll talk to you soon thank you andrew god bless you you

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Published: Fri May 27 2022